Don’t get me wrong Castaway Diva is nice and endearing but it all seems like fantasy to me. First of all 15 years is a long long time! Too long to live on your own as a young person. And as a former singer I know how important it is to ‘work’ on your voice. Not once have we seen a vision of her singing on that island. How did she retain this gift living in those hard conditions? How come she has acclimated to living normally so easily? And why doesn’t the vision of the sea/ocean traumatise her? Why doesn’t the thought of eating potatoes make her barf? Why isn’t she in therapy? It’s way too unreal to enjoy with a logical head.
15 years: Way to long
I suggested she swam ashore with her guitar in a case.
Her playing was inspired by sea and wind .😀
Her singing was inspired by screeching seagulls, (think Yoko Ono) ☹️
It is best not to think too much about her island life 😂
Well, it is fantasy (I think Park Eunbin explicitly said something like that too xD ..I need to look that up), it’s not real, and it almost feels like a fairytale sometimes lol
The list of unrealistic things and unlikely scenarios is really long, but the story still works for many. Of course it’s not gonna be everyone’s cup of tea and that’s ok 🙂
I’m all for the fairy tale . Her breakout performance on stage was wonderful .
Show needs to get rid of Psycho Dad… Please… 🐗 Maybe a wild boar will get him !
😂 It hasn’t been a good year for CGI animals in kdrama.
I understand it’s supposed to be a fantasy, but one of my biggest issues with it is that it’s not fantasy enough. There’s far too much real-world context that drags down the quasi-magical elements so that they just seem unrealistic rather than imaginative.
I just reimagined this as similar to the Wizard of Oz , when Dorothy wakes up and sees everyone .. You were there ! And you !
It was all just a dream …. Or was it.
Hey, I get it…it can feel like they’re trying to do both, be grounded and realistic while painting some pretty unlikely scenarios at the same time.
The point is that different people can perceive the same story in different ways.
For me personally this balance is just right and I’m enjoying it immensely!! I don’t mind some aspects of the story that are potentially unrealistic because I am invested in the characters enough to forgive those minor (for me) details. For others it is different, I got that now ahah!
P.S. There is one thing I wanna say in favor of the drama, regardless of preference, and it’s the fact that it’s been consistent since day 1 with it’s themes and tone, it’s not like it suddenly changed midway.
Since the first episode we were shown a juxtaposition of the carefree life of the teen protagonists (Mokha shooting her MV felt very dream like, to me), with the abuse they were experiencing on the side. Maybe it was too good on its own and it made some viewers get their expectations too high for the following episodes? Not sure xD
@johnb
Don’t even say it!! “while you were sleeping part 2” xD
The thought crossed my mind! What if this is all a product of Mokha’s brain after spending time alone for far too long?!?! Then at the end she wakes up and it was all a dream?!! Or maybe Kiho’s dream, because of how much he misses her! I would riot with such a twist!! lmao
Speaking of unrealistic ahahah!!
The trick for me is suspension of disbelief with the plot premise even before diving in. How different can this fantasy wirh reality elements is with for example, a story about a human turning into a dog when kissed? That has unbelievable plot premise with elements of reality too but I see no one raising an issue about it. What about superstrong families, or ability to go back in time to 1995? That castaway island is just exactly like that.
The real life elements are too real to be fantasy. Time travelling/ghosts and vampires/magic are not real. Being stranded on an island for 15 years is very much real. That FedEx guy.
People. Please stop insulting fantasy. Fantasy has rules and logic. The premise and the place and the creatures might be different in that genre but they still exist inside a logical universe.
Yes, fantasy is different because dragons and fairies and magic spells don’t exist in real life, at all.
This is not fantasy because it’s still possible for everything that has happened to actually happen in the world we live in.
Is it unlikely? A lot of times yes, but still possible.
What I find most unbelievable is that she has no problems with a large gathering of people. I’m sure that after 15 years on a desert island, I would feel uncomfortable if there were suddenly so many people around me and so many noises and other sensory impressions were bombarding me.
As a singer: Honestly, this may sound awful but imo Lee Re is a better singer than Park Eun-bin so it works for me: her voice is good, but not as good as it used to be. I think it’s more fakey that she got as good as she did living with an abusive and clearly unsupportive father who I doubt would shell out money for voice lessons, in the first place.
As a psychologist: it does require suspension of disbelief (I personally think that the drama has consistent internal rules even if they don’t match up with reality, like Lelly said), but people are pretty resilient. She wouldn’t necessarily have long-standing psychopathology or PTSD symptoms just because she experienced a traumatic thing; PTSD is actually the more rare response.
I remember as a child I had jaundice once and my mum would cook this fish thing without spices to feed me (apparently it was good for me). I think I had jaundice for 2 weeks, maybe? I was 14 at that time and I am almost 41 and I still haven’t touched that popular fish. It’s definitely not PTSD. It’s just that I avoid that memory.
15 years alone in a deserted island. Unless she got truly comfortable with her surrounding I don’t see how she is flaring so well in real life.
Oh wow. I had jaundice for a long time and they used to give me fresh sugarcane juice. Till today I can’t drink that juice. Just the thought of it makes me nauseous.
listen, the only fantasy in there is a 31 year old getting a break from top agencies that too in the cut throat idol competition… and a much bigger fantasy is die hard fans waiting for a newbie
I did find this bit comical too! Then again, I feel like maybe soloists play by separate rules to idols, especially in terms of the age thing. Like if you debut as a soloist and you’re a pretty strong performer you’ve got a reasonably steady future vs members in an idol group who have to fight against time to establish the group & themselves or they run the risk of fizzling out when newer groups come in.
Admittedly I don’t know much about the S Korean entertainment industry, but it probably helps that she has a gimmick (feels awful to reduce her experience to that, but that’s showbiz I guess)
RenOIshi
November 21, 2023 at 3:16 AM
Don’t get me wrong Castaway Diva is nice and endearing but it all seems like fantasy to me. First of all 15 years is a long long time! Too long to live on your own as a young person. And as a former singer I know how important it is to ‘work’ on your voice. Not once have we seen a vision of her singing on that island. How did she retain this gift living in those hard conditions? How come she has acclimated to living normally so easily? And why doesn’t the vision of the sea/ocean traumatise her? Why doesn’t the thought of eating potatoes make her barf? Why isn’t she in therapy? It’s way too unreal to enjoy with a logical head.
john
November 21, 2023 at 4:50 AM
15 years: Way to long
I suggested she swam ashore with her guitar in a case.
Her playing was inspired by sea and wind .😀
Her singing was inspired by screeching seagulls, (think Yoko Ono) ☹️
It is best not to think too much about her island life 😂
Lelly19
November 21, 2023 at 5:08 AM
Well, it is fantasy (I think Park Eunbin explicitly said something like that too xD ..I need to look that up), it’s not real, and it almost feels like a fairytale sometimes lol
The list of unrealistic things and unlikely scenarios is really long, but the story still works for many. Of course it’s not gonna be everyone’s cup of tea and that’s ok 🙂
john
November 21, 2023 at 5:39 AM
I’m all for the fairy tale . Her breakout performance on stage was wonderful .
Show needs to get rid of Psycho Dad… Please… 🐗 Maybe a wild boar will get him !
Lelly19
November 21, 2023 at 6:03 AM
Wild boar of Doom xD
Elinor, Team Glasses team co-captain
November 21, 2023 at 7:41 AM
😂 It hasn’t been a good year for CGI animals in kdrama.
I understand it’s supposed to be a fantasy, but one of my biggest issues with it is that it’s not fantasy enough. There’s far too much real-world context that drags down the quasi-magical elements so that they just seem unrealistic rather than imaginative.
john
November 21, 2023 at 7:48 AM
I just reimagined this as similar to the Wizard of Oz , when Dorothy wakes up and sees everyone .. You were there ! And you !
It was all just a dream …. Or was it.
Lelly19
November 21, 2023 at 9:21 AM
Hey, I get it…it can feel like they’re trying to do both, be grounded and realistic while painting some pretty unlikely scenarios at the same time.
The point is that different people can perceive the same story in different ways.
For me personally this balance is just right and I’m enjoying it immensely!! I don’t mind some aspects of the story that are potentially unrealistic because I am invested in the characters enough to forgive those minor (for me) details. For others it is different, I got that now ahah!
P.S. There is one thing I wanna say in favor of the drama, regardless of preference, and it’s the fact that it’s been consistent since day 1 with it’s themes and tone, it’s not like it suddenly changed midway.
Since the first episode we were shown a juxtaposition of the carefree life of the teen protagonists (Mokha shooting her MV felt very dream like, to me), with the abuse they were experiencing on the side. Maybe it was too good on its own and it made some viewers get their expectations too high for the following episodes? Not sure xD
Lelly19
November 21, 2023 at 9:27 AM
@johnb
Don’t even say it!! “while you were sleeping part 2” xD
The thought crossed my mind! What if this is all a product of Mokha’s brain after spending time alone for far too long?!?! Then at the end she wakes up and it was all a dream?!! Or maybe Kiho’s dream, because of how much he misses her! I would riot with such a twist!! lmao
Speaking of unrealistic ahahah!!
Jingbee
November 21, 2023 at 12:46 PM
The trick for me is suspension of disbelief with the plot premise even before diving in. How different can this fantasy wirh reality elements is with for example, a story about a human turning into a dog when kissed? That has unbelievable plot premise with elements of reality too but I see no one raising an issue about it. What about superstrong families, or ability to go back in time to 1995? That castaway island is just exactly like that.
RenOIshi
November 21, 2023 at 1:32 PM
The real life elements are too real to be fantasy. Time travelling/ghosts and vampires/magic are not real. Being stranded on an island for 15 years is very much real. That FedEx guy.
Lixie
November 21, 2023 at 5:38 AM
People. Please stop insulting fantasy. Fantasy has rules and logic. The premise and the place and the creatures might be different in that genre but they still exist inside a logical universe.
Lelly19
November 21, 2023 at 6:02 AM
Yes, fantasy is different because dragons and fairies and magic spells don’t exist in real life, at all.
This is not fantasy because it’s still possible for everything that has happened to actually happen in the world we live in.
Is it unlikely? A lot of times yes, but still possible.
That’s my take at least 🙈
Lelly19
November 21, 2023 at 6:03 AM
I believe it’s “fantasy” in the same way that winning the lottery and being set for life is fantasy, if you want 😁
Nefret
November 21, 2023 at 7:30 AM
What I find most unbelievable is that she has no problems with a large gathering of people. I’m sure that after 15 years on a desert island, I would feel uncomfortable if there were suddenly so many people around me and so many noises and other sensory impressions were bombarding me.
vienibenmio
November 21, 2023 at 7:58 AM
As a singer: Honestly, this may sound awful but imo Lee Re is a better singer than Park Eun-bin so it works for me: her voice is good, but not as good as it used to be. I think it’s more fakey that she got as good as she did living with an abusive and clearly unsupportive father who I doubt would shell out money for voice lessons, in the first place.
As a psychologist: it does require suspension of disbelief (I personally think that the drama has consistent internal rules even if they don’t match up with reality, like Lelly said), but people are pretty resilient. She wouldn’t necessarily have long-standing psychopathology or PTSD symptoms just because she experienced a traumatic thing; PTSD is actually the more rare response.
RenOIshi
November 21, 2023 at 1:29 PM
I remember as a child I had jaundice once and my mum would cook this fish thing without spices to feed me (apparently it was good for me). I think I had jaundice for 2 weeks, maybe? I was 14 at that time and I am almost 41 and I still haven’t touched that popular fish. It’s definitely not PTSD. It’s just that I avoid that memory.
15 years alone in a deserted island. Unless she got truly comfortable with her surrounding I don’t see how she is flaring so well in real life.
Blue (@mayhemf)
November 21, 2023 at 3:14 PM
Oh wow. I had jaundice for a long time and they used to give me fresh sugarcane juice. Till today I can’t drink that juice. Just the thought of it makes me nauseous.
RenOIshi
November 21, 2023 at 5:16 PM
I know right!
alasecond
November 21, 2023 at 8:30 AM
listen, the only fantasy in there is a 31 year old getting a break from top agencies that too in the cut throat idol competition… and a much bigger fantasy is die hard fans waiting for a newbie
😛
lapislazulii
November 21, 2023 at 1:11 PM
I did find this bit comical too! Then again, I feel like maybe soloists play by separate rules to idols, especially in terms of the age thing. Like if you debut as a soloist and you’re a pretty strong performer you’ve got a reasonably steady future vs members in an idol group who have to fight against time to establish the group & themselves or they run the risk of fizzling out when newer groups come in.
vienibenmio
November 21, 2023 at 1:45 PM
Admittedly I don’t know much about the S Korean entertainment industry, but it probably helps that she has a gimmick (feels awful to reduce her experience to that, but that’s showbiz I guess)
alasecond
November 22, 2023 at 4:53 PM
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