1. The parallels between CB-WTH and HYJ-HSM were obv. my favourite part this episode.
2. Lots of HYJ-HSM scenes to make up for the lack of, previously. Opposite-sex platonic friendship so well written! Learn, people, learn. I could watch dramas about such friendships ALL the time.
3. Hanjo ties up to main story in a big way.
4. I love love LOVE that three central characters are women, and they are never EVER shown as props for anyone or anything else. Fabulous writing.
5. That National Assembly-like debate about police vs prosecution was a lesson in writing dialectic. And the after-conversation between HYJ-HSM, which put it all into perceptive.
6. HSM SMILES! Like actually, lips upturned, reacting at the right time, in friendly banter. It was like a sigh of relief after all that tension.
Actually, I thought WTH’s line delivery was not the best – it felt like he was reading a script – unless the posturing was deliberate and in character. But yeah, overall, that back and forth was very well done!
Yes! This episode makes me smile so much, which is odd since it’s still full of tense moments. haha Gosh, I’m sad we’re at the home stretch now. We still need more SM/YJ moments!
So right about smiling amidst tension – that’s what HSM’s smile felt like – it was a ray of sunshine in a taut episode. I was very happy with the SM-YJ scenes here. Their friendship is *goals*, as they say.
Has anyone considered that all of this is a storm in a tea cup and nothing has happened at all except plotting for advantage (and the kidnapping of DJ)? This may be completely off the wall, but have you considered the possibility that there are no murders at all? That the drownings were drownings, that the suicide was a suicide, that the heart attack was a heart attack. In fact what we see is maneuvering for advantage in a fog of misdirection, and attempts by the police and prosecution to frame each other on the basis of their paranoid suspicions and attempts at outguessing each other.
The big question though is what has happened to Dong-jae? I’m starting to wonder if that vile burgeoning sociopath High School student has kidnapped him out of malevolence (but then we saw the reflection of the police watch??) On the other hand Sec Park is v suspicious. Who is he really working for?
interesting theory! not considered it. although the high school student – SDJ connection has crossed my mind, for otherwise that case/conversation was a very random insert in the earlier episode. the kidnapper is shown to be a rich person, with fancy musical instruments, etc., so rich high school brat doing the kidnapping is not impossible.
Yes, I have started to think there might not be a murderer. Possibly, an accomplice who knows something about a crime, could be bullying or drug dealing but choose to stay silent. A blinking eye symbol in the intro could mean witnessing a crime but choose to close their eyes. Unlike S1, the catchphrase is every suspect has a motive cos there was a murder. Tragedy happened because someone chose to turn a blind eye (leader Baek’s silence to the bullying of officer Song)
yeah the tagline is also something similar, right? everyone who remains silent is guilty = turning a blind eye? I usually end up ff-ing the intro – must go back and check it out!
Also, I’m still not convinced the Sergeant wasn’t murdered. Too much doesn’t add up. Right now, my theory is that the newbie at their police station might’ve been the killer — although I have no good evidence for this theory!
different character, but also agree that the suicide is still not convincing. Unless show wants to leave the cops’ transgressions as abetment to suicide (which would also be punishable).
Ikr, and it’s weird that the whole team was shown to feel regret because of the bribes. Did they not feel a tiny bit of remorse for the bullying which triggered the supposed suicide? As bad as receiving bribe is, it’s not costing you human life. I sense crooked moral compass here.
He’s been shady from the start! I agree. But no one is entirely above suspicion yet. WTH and CB are still dodgy. I don’t know what mega plan they have up their sleeve. Chairwoman Lee is also pretty scheming. Who knows. At this point, I’m not even clear on what the exact crime is. :p I’m just enjoying the complexity of the ride and the tight writing. There’s never a loose plot line with LSY, and everything is going to tie together eventually.
The one thing I don’t want is a lame attempt to pin all of this on Chairwoman Lee’s brother or father. I’m keeping my fingers crossed that the writer will not go for an easy solution like this.
For me, the most suspicious people right now are Park Sang-mu and Seo Dong-jae’s wife. The two of them seem to have secrets and ulterior motives. (Who knows, Park Sang-mu might be the father of Seo Dong-jae’s children! LMAO)
haha the fathering seems far out, although. all is definitely not rosy on the marriage front. that said, I thought it strange that the wife should put on such a show just for the sake of keeping up appearances. she’s definitely fishy, but for other reasons.
I have been theorizing that the Lee brother is behind a lot of this, and the father is definitely going to come back into the story at some point, but how and when I don’t know.
I at first thought they were dating or something. They do get along really well. However, he gives me snake vibes and I definitely think he’s involved in some sinister in whatever is going on here.
I completely agree! I mentioned elsewhere that I thought this was the best single stand-alone episode in a drama I have seen in a long long time. So much to learn from this one hour alone.
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pickleddragon
September 20, 2020 at 9:04 AM
FOS2 Ep12: Wow, can this get any better? So much to love in this episode! Spoiler comments below:
pickleddragon
September 20, 2020 at 9:11 AM
1. The parallels between CB-WTH and HYJ-HSM were obv. my favourite part this episode.
2. Lots of HYJ-HSM scenes to make up for the lack of, previously. Opposite-sex platonic friendship so well written! Learn, people, learn. I could watch dramas about such friendships ALL the time.
3. Hanjo ties up to main story in a big way.
4. I love love LOVE that three central characters are women, and they are never EVER shown as props for anyone or anything else. Fabulous writing.
5. That National Assembly-like debate about police vs prosecution was a lesson in writing dialectic. And the after-conversation between HYJ-HSM, which put it all into perceptive.
6. HSM SMILES! Like actually, lips upturned, reacting at the right time, in friendly banter. It was like a sigh of relief after all that tension.
Lee Soo-Yeon – I bow to you!
SeeSamME
September 20, 2020 at 9:35 AM
Everything to what you said!
Love the council meeting. Everyone’s acting and how they delivered their lines were sooo good there.
drink ur water
September 20, 2020 at 9:48 AM
I bursted with Geon’s line in that meeting. I was waiting for him to at least say something and when he finally did.. i LOLed.
pickleddragon
September 20, 2020 at 10:17 AM
That was such an excellent takedown, what you would expect coming from uri field-cop Geon.
KSKalways
September 20, 2020 at 8:07 PM
Hilarious
pickleddragon
September 20, 2020 at 10:18 AM
Actually, I thought WTH’s line delivery was not the best – it felt like he was reading a script – unless the posturing was deliberate and in character. But yeah, overall, that back and forth was very well done!
dramalover4ever
September 20, 2020 at 6:53 PM
It seems that he is invested in creating a shit storm in order to preserve the status quo and cover up the other stuff (whatever it is).
strawberry
September 20, 2020 at 9:44 AM
Yes! This episode makes me smile so much, which is odd since it’s still full of tense moments. haha Gosh, I’m sad we’re at the home stretch now. We still need more SM/YJ moments!
pickleddragon
September 20, 2020 at 10:16 AM
So right about smiling amidst tension – that’s what HSM’s smile felt like – it was a ray of sunshine in a taut episode. I was very happy with the SM-YJ scenes here. Their friendship is *goals*, as they say.
dramalover4ever
September 20, 2020 at 7:02 PM
Has anyone considered that all of this is a storm in a tea cup and nothing has happened at all except plotting for advantage (and the kidnapping of DJ)? This may be completely off the wall, but have you considered the possibility that there are no murders at all? That the drownings were drownings, that the suicide was a suicide, that the heart attack was a heart attack. In fact what we see is maneuvering for advantage in a fog of misdirection, and attempts by the police and prosecution to frame each other on the basis of their paranoid suspicions and attempts at outguessing each other.
The big question though is what has happened to Dong-jae? I’m starting to wonder if that vile burgeoning sociopath High School student has kidnapped him out of malevolence (but then we saw the reflection of the police watch??) On the other hand Sec Park is v suspicious. Who is he really working for?
pickleddragon
September 20, 2020 at 11:09 PM
interesting theory! not considered it. although the high school student – SDJ connection has crossed my mind, for otherwise that case/conversation was a very random insert in the earlier episode. the kidnapper is shown to be a rich person, with fancy musical instruments, etc., so rich high school brat doing the kidnapping is not impossible.
SeeSamME
September 21, 2020 at 2:28 AM
Yes, I have started to think there might not be a murderer. Possibly, an accomplice who knows something about a crime, could be bullying or drug dealing but choose to stay silent. A blinking eye symbol in the intro could mean witnessing a crime but choose to close their eyes. Unlike S1, the catchphrase is every suspect has a motive cos there was a murder. Tragedy happened because someone chose to turn a blind eye (leader Baek’s silence to the bullying of officer Song)
pickleddragon
September 21, 2020 at 5:02 AM
yeah the tagline is also something similar, right? everyone who remains silent is guilty = turning a blind eye? I usually end up ff-ing the intro – must go back and check it out!
Maq
September 20, 2020 at 10:05 AM
I think the mastermind this season is Director Park Sang-mu. I’m getting evil villain vibes from him.
Maq
September 20, 2020 at 10:07 AM
Also, I’m still not convinced the Sergeant wasn’t murdered. Too much doesn’t add up. Right now, my theory is that the newbie at their police station might’ve been the killer — although I have no good evidence for this theory!
LT is Irresistibly Indifferent and reminded of the slow march of death
September 20, 2020 at 8:45 PM
That was my theory too, although if Sargeant Song did in fact commit suicide then I’m not seeing the motive anymore.
pickleddragon
September 20, 2020 at 11:11 PM
different character, but also agree that the suicide is still not convincing. Unless show wants to leave the cops’ transgressions as abetment to suicide (which would also be punishable).
LT is Irresistibly Indifferent and reminded of the slow march of death
September 20, 2020 at 8:45 PM
Sorry, I just realised you’re talking about a different character. Ignore me.
bewitched
September 20, 2020 at 11:29 PM
Ikr, and it’s weird that the whole team was shown to feel regret because of the bribes. Did they not feel a tiny bit of remorse for the bullying which triggered the supposed suicide? As bad as receiving bribe is, it’s not costing you human life. I sense crooked moral compass here.
pickleddragon
September 20, 2020 at 10:15 AM
He’s been shady from the start! I agree. But no one is entirely above suspicion yet. WTH and CB are still dodgy. I don’t know what mega plan they have up their sleeve. Chairwoman Lee is also pretty scheming. Who knows. At this point, I’m not even clear on what the exact crime is. :p I’m just enjoying the complexity of the ride and the tight writing. There’s never a loose plot line with LSY, and everything is going to tie together eventually.
Maq
September 20, 2020 at 10:41 AM
I think the plotting is great as well!
The one thing I don’t want is a lame attempt to pin all of this on Chairwoman Lee’s brother or father. I’m keeping my fingers crossed that the writer will not go for an easy solution like this.
For me, the most suspicious people right now are Park Sang-mu and Seo Dong-jae’s wife. The two of them seem to have secrets and ulterior motives. (Who knows, Park Sang-mu might be the father of Seo Dong-jae’s children! LMAO)
pickleddragon
September 20, 2020 at 11:13 PM
haha the fathering seems far out, although. all is definitely not rosy on the marriage front. that said, I thought it strange that the wife should put on such a show just for the sake of keeping up appearances. she’s definitely fishy, but for other reasons.
I have been theorizing that the Lee brother is behind a lot of this, and the father is definitely going to come back into the story at some point, but how and when I don’t know.
larelle79
September 20, 2020 at 1:10 PM
Park is a younger version of the late Prosecutor Lee. He and Mrs Lee mesh so well and their relationship reminds me of Season 1 with her husband.
Maq
September 20, 2020 at 5:32 PM
I at first thought they were dating or something. They do get along really well. However, he gives me snake vibes and I definitely think he’s involved in some sinister in whatever is going on here.
larelle79
September 20, 2020 at 6:07 PM
Just like her husband.
The woman has a type. 😄
pickleddragon
September 20, 2020 at 11:14 PM
I didn’t get dating / romantic vibes at all from the start. More like a creepy symbiotic relationship.
PYC
September 22, 2020 at 9:38 AM
Ep 12 is a masterclass of sublime scriptwriting. Each segment is worth a thesis and there are so many of them. A second watch may not be enough.
pickleddragon
September 22, 2020 at 9:26 PM
I completely agree! I mentioned elsewhere that I thought this was the best single stand-alone episode in a drama I have seen in a long long time. So much to learn from this one hour alone.