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Pump Up the Healthy Love (Drama Hangout)

Welcome to the Drama Hangout for KBS’s Pump Up the Healthy Love, where a desperate Jung Eun-ji joins muscle man Lee Jun-young’s health club.

This is your place to chat about the drama as you watch. Stay tuned for our opening review.


Beware of spoilers!

 
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I will like this show and keep watching if it starts to recognize that the physical fitness regime promoted is both ineffective and unhealthy, as well as the recognition that the ML actually has more lifestyle issues as the FL. My hope is that she will change him as much as he changes her. There is a seed of doubt in me now that this will happen, but we'll see.

Also, ep 2 was quite possibly the most fakey weight loss I've seen in a drama. Even Atypical Family's was more believable. I have to wonder why they sped up a process that I expected to take at least a few episodes.

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Also, as I said in the premiere watch thread, the ML is a terrible physical trainer and needs to find another career. I don't know why he insists on forcing his lifestyle on average people when he could specialize as a weight training coach.

It'll be especially interesting to see him as a romance lead when he can't even let himself (or the FL) eat a damn carbohydrate. Not something I find endearing.

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You are very much right on this one. But, given we already know the ML is suffering from some trauma--at the very least he was in some way abused by HIS trainer, I really do assume it is heading toward the conclusion you describe, showing that he is completely deluded in his ideas about fitness and self-worth, as well as his rigid ideas about purity in his diet. And, occasionally in these two episodes there has been a funny scene that showed how ridiculous he is.

As for the FL's weight loss, since too much of the first two episodes to my taste have been based on her "comic" humiliation, I assume that she lost it quickly so that she can eventually gain it back and still be happy with herself, with again the moral of the story being physical fitness does not equal happiness.

But I've been fooled multiple times by kdramas before, and the message that I think a show should convey sometimes turns out to be totally opposite what actually happens!

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Yeah, I think the issue is that I don't entirely trust Korean media when it comes to this topic. But we'll see, I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt right now.

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I feel like they've set up the ML's transformation with the two tropey "trip and fall into the ML's arms" scenes. Despite seeming to have no interest other than "fixing" her, these two moments are probably the lead into his changing his mind about his approach when he realizes he's attracted to her regardless of her weight/size.

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I kinda got the feeling the ML was showing an interest (at least protective feelings) before her transformation. For example, in the epilogue of the 1st episode he knocked over the ex boyfriend and said some along the lines of being honest and stop blaming others. He was also very protective of her in the 2nd ep, after her transformation.

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@kdramakat Yes! I'd forgotten those.

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Her weight loss was silly, especially with the voice over that she didn't notice she was losing it. Right. I'm guessing the set up is for her to start eating/not working out again after the humiliation at the wedding. This will perhaps signal the start of a more reasonable regimen.

One big problem I have with this is that NONE of the characters are likable. Not the leads, the sister, the groupies at the gym, the co-workers at the travel agency... they're all repellant. Except Lee Mi Do's character. That's always a big red flag for me.

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I agree the sister, co worker’s, and gym buddy are all out of order. I can’t believe the sister stole her dress when she knew she needed it for this significant event. Her sister is like she is an irresponsible teenager. I bet the sister thinks the dress is too good for the female lead who has always been wearing baggy unflattering clothes.

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Good decision, DB Staff, to drop recapping this show because it is embarrassing and offensive and not worth trying to make sense of through recaps. The Viki timed comments were me in the first 10 minutes of Ep.1: "What is going on?" "I regret starting this." "I don't know what I'm watching." After that cringe opening music video, I'd wonder if KBS was saving its Wednesday-Thursday time slot for sitcoms only (Kick x4, Villains Everywhere). It is year 2025, and we still have a woman begging a man for sex. In public. Please have some self-respect. In Mi-ran's flashback, I was so relieved her guy friend didn't act disgusted when they were featured on the baseball game's kiss cam. Hyun-joong is not my sense of humor, while Lee Mi-do's character is the only normal character in this show.

All that being said, Ep.2 did calm down, and I am still watching for now.

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I was surprised to see it disappear, but now I’m extra anticipating the First Impressions post! I hope the show settles into itself for everyone’s sake.

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I'm imagining a game of virtual hot potato behind the scenes with DB Staff until they all cry uncle and just agree not to recap it. 🙃

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🤣🤣🤣

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Lol, PUMP UP is the first drama benefiting from DB’s recently enacted ‘closed polls’ policy. No ratings allowed until after the drama finishes airing.

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rofl I thought I was seeing things! I was like "where did the 24 hr health club photo go?!" and then I read the first impressions aaaaand I get why they dropped it...! so shameful!

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The humor can't stop me to find their way to address this topic was quite wrong.

But the worst part was the sister who watched her sister trying to loose weight to fit her dress and who took it the D-Day...

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I was SO MAD about that. I'm still mad, honestly. Her sister sucks.

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No fooling. That was inexcusable.

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I'm so glad I'm an only child sometimes. I would not be able to handle that level of disrespect.

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That is not normal for sibling behavior.

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As I said above, I THINK (don't know) the show is making humorous commentary on the whole idea central to self-help consumer culture, that you can remake yourself, and make yourself happy, by changing your lifestyle to emphasize fitness and "wellness."

But so far what's totally undermining this message for me is the humor is not just based on sex, fitness, and lifestyle--all worthy of ridicule--but also on extended scenes of characters caught in cringe-worthy humiliating circumstances.

Sure, when described I can see how some people would find the scenes here funny--a woman begging for sex from her boyfriend while sprawled on the sidewalk; a man dressed in a negligee running with a bondage gag ball(?) (don't know what they are called and I'm not inclined to look it up) in his mouth; a seemingly innocuous black dress that has a flourescent "I like sex" when lights go out. But when I was watching these scenes, they just left me shaking my head with a grimace, and they went on way too long.

I would have been fine if the show had confined itself to jokes about gyms, fitness regimens, even the ML's ridiculous ideas about physical health. Also good jokes could have been made about the bizarre narcissism of body building competitions; plus there are a whole range of types in the gym that those of us who attend regularly have all observed, that would be easy to caricature (including the type I now represent, of course, the vain old man clinging to fitness as a way of showing he has not lost it). Perhaps as the show goes on, we will have more of those type jokes.

But right now, its just not that funny, and I'm watching it primarily to see what the moral will be about our contemporary culture's ridiculous obsession with fitness.

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I am not ready to give up on it yet, I do like the lead actors, but it's not easy. I was surprised, that the weight loss already happened in the second episode. So what will be next? I really hope it get's better. The actors deserve better. And so do we.

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I was ok with the cheesy intro segments (sort of expected them) until we got to the irrational FL with zero self-respect begging for sex in public. I almost ended it there. I barely made it past the sister's S+M boyfriend scene. When we arrived at the FL screeching in the police station, I DID turn it off at that point. I have zero interest in this type of character, male or female. It's over the top and is not at all funny imho.

Later I went back and finished the first 2 episodes because I do generally like to give shows a 4-ep tryout and I'd been looking forward to this one. I'll probably watch the next 2, but I'm not expecting they're going to turn things around substantially enough to make it worth the full watch. "What the f?!" indeed.

This is one of those #ifbeanieswrotekdramas moments. So much more and better could be done with this story. Why is it so tone deaf? Or as the well-missed Seon-ha would often quip: 왜? WHY?!

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I thought I saw this on the currently recapping list

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The body shaming of this poor lady is wiiild. But I, for one, actually liked the comedy and goofiness? Idk how to feel, will watch for now.

Look, I know they're saying that she has legit health issues. But if someone with Jung Eun-ji's figure is out of shape... What hope is there for the rest of us?

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I loved how accurately they portrayed that post workout feeling where walking and squatting to go to the toilet feel like a never ending workout you didn’t sign up for.

I read the David Goggins book and even the other Seals who need to be fit to do their job didn’t feel the need to push themselves to the extremes once they had passed the tests that proved they were good enough to join. Why would normal people dealing with the pressures of adult life pay for a gym director who acts like a stalker and humiliates them?

The female lead could have been the poster girl for the effectiveness of his total life package but because she wanted to prove a point to a loser she will need a new incentive to keep it off. What will the maintenance programme look like? Has she learnt how to enjoy food AND be healthy?

Poor woman overcame the set back of everyone knowing her office romance failed but now has to deal with the bigger shame of facing her colleagues after her and her packed ‘boyfriend’ wore inappropriate clothes to the wedding. She has nowhere safe in her life where she is accepted as a person of value.

I wonder where the writer is hoping to go with this when there are no likeable characters. The neutral gym staff have no depth and everyone else exists just to act as obstacles to the female lead being at peace.

Despite all of the warning signs I will be turning up next week to see whether this will prove to be a low key fun watch.

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I just want to if Lee Jun-young wears body suit or it is really his body that big? Too comedic for my taste, I really like Lee Jun-young but still I don't think I'll continue. Wish better project for him in the future.

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He's wearing a suit. It's not a good look imo

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Yes, the difference was very noticeable in the final scene of episode 2. When the back of his white was cut off and his naked back was visible. His body looked finally normal.

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I mean but why Jun's real body is just as great. If Lee Sungkyung can pass as weightlifter, Lee Junyoung can pass as bodybuilder 😂

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Though Episode 2.
About a year ago now a drama came on the scene that generated some comment, much negative and that was KBS’s DARE TO LOVE ME (Viki US). Some folks couldn’t believe the premise of the drama that in the enlightened 21st century some in South Korea would choose a philosophically Joseon based life style. I enjoyed the drama.

I mention DARE because of the dramas that I have recently watched that was the most negatively received until PUMP UP. So far I have enjoyed the first two episodes of PUMP UP cringe and all.
I enjoyed Choi Moo-sung’s episode one cameo and I am looking forward to Kim Kwon’s appearance.
I don’t know if they would be considered negative tropes but the Three Witches remind me of the annoying locals in BREWING LOVE and Mi-ran’s office mates remind me of the super annoying coworkers in CINDERELLA AT 2AM.

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I am wondering if dramas with the most negative comments Impossible heir and Bad memory eraser came higher than Dare to love me? The beanies seemed to drop Dare to love me quite early on but hung around for the other two for a few episodes because they liked a particular actor or had hopes it would turn around.

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Speaking only about my own experiences I can recall in my early kdrama days three dramas where (and the blame falls squarely on the shoulders of writer-nim) the main characters were introduced so negatively that I had to force myself to hang in there through four episodes at least before things settled down and they ultimately became favorites: tvN’s CHICAGO TYPEWRITER (2017), tvN’s A POEM A DAY and MBC’s I AM NOT A ROBOT (2017/18).

I agree with those who are viewing PUMP UP as writer-nim’s spoof of the bodybuilding and gym rat obsessed folks. The poster was a tipoff for me.

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Wow, those three were all dramas I enjoyed but I can’t remember if they were wins from the start. I struggle with romance where the main leads are not likeable but as Mr Plankton and Dear Hyeri showed if other elements of the story are compelling enough I will stay to the end.

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By introducing the lead characters so negatively (as in PUMP UP and the 3 dramas referenced above) the writer is taking a huge gamble which sometimes doesn’t pay off. Some watch one or two episodes and it is see ya! All 3 of my referenced dramas had poor to terrible average nationwide Nielsen ratings:
C.T: 2.27%
APAD: 1.011%
INAR: 3.2%
(I like to share this about INAR because it shows how classy Yoo Seung-ho is:
YSH was shocked when the ratings for the first 4 thirty minutes episodes came out: 4.0%-3.2%. He said in an article that initially after those ratings came out, on set, he couldn’t look the director in the eye.
I will be pleasantly surprised if PUMP UP’s ratings go over the next few episodes. Somehow I think what ratings it earned fir the first two episodes will pretty much prevail for the rest of its run.

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They have present our leads both stuck in not healthy cooping mechanism and seems like this is not gonna be about her loosing wight, but both learning from each other. behind his not so great lifestyle program seems like he really want to help people, but consider his past trainer he do not know how to effective train people. She lack self confident and she have to learn to stand up of herself and first putting her sister in place. Also I think her planing and manage experience from work could be great help helping his gym as he got competition from across the street coming. I actually have a feeling this is gonna be more about finding a healthy lifestyle and how training could be a part of it.

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His issue is that he would rather be right than effective. He would rather promote what he thinks is needed, even if no one can actually follow it in a sustainable way, rather than adjust it in a way that would make it doable. Again, he's not good at his job. I would imagine that being a fitness coach is as much about being able to enact behavioral change than just knowing about fitness.

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Episode 3 Spoilers: better than last week, but not there yet. There is still some unnecessary cringe to force laughter from the audience, but it seems a bit toned down.

Our leads are still a maniac and hung-up on their ex, but the seeds for change are there. Mi-Ran discovers her hidden physical strength and Hyun-Joong is slightly nicer to his clients. They even bundle forces to help out one of Hyun-Joong’s clients, and it could be a nice foreshadowing of our OTP combining fitness and foodie knowledge to help others. Hyun-Joong, at least seemed to be equally impressed and disgusted with her restaurant knowhow.

I saved the best for last: Kim Kwon!!!! He owns the gym accross and of course there is some bad history between him and our male lead, and of course our female lead, and every other client who takes fitness seriously for that matter, crosses over temporarily. Literally. Our rival is nothing but oily. From the amount of hair gel to the mix of English and satoori, and let us not forget the sucking up to clients and calling our female lead ‘Baby’. So wrong, it is good!

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I just finished episode 4 and spot on about Kim Kwon’s performance. I love it. I think both he and Lee Jun-young had a ball hamming it up.

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It was good to know that the self centred and disrespectful sister could show her sibling loyalty and step up to defend her sister. Because it’s this type of drama she did it in a ridiculous way but these episodes provided some context to why the sisters live together despite what appeared to be significant differences in their attitudes to life. It was also good to hear a parent acknowledge they were wrong. I was convinced we were going to go down the same route of the parent’s need for their child to be in a relationship outweighing the need for their child to have self respect or happiness.

The three woman who treat the gym as a meet up venue for random eating sessions are so part time in their loyalty.

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The mother’s arc was interesting. She arrives on the scene potentially a kdrama mom from hell but eventually softens up and reveals to Mi-ran things about her difficult pregnancy. She transitioned from high critical to somewhat supportive. I wonder if mom stays around or her appearance was a cameo. The actress (mom) gave a nice performance.

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I liked these two episodes a lot better, in part because they were mostly just silly. The humor was definitely hit and miss, as usual with kdramas, but there were some hits--I liked the competition between the gym directors, and the three women are always pretty funny.

One of the strange things about the focus of the silliness is that they aren't taking on the obvious target--body building as an activity (rather than just fitness and strength) Competitive bodybuilding, in my opinion, should be treated with more humor than it has been so far, as it is the absolute height of the narcissism that often drives people to the gym. I also think that its goals are inimical to health and fiftness. Although they are always very strong, even "natural" bodybuilders take extensive supplements that strain the definition of "natural" (kind of like the way "organic" is defined in the U.S.), and that can be extremely harmful, and overall most bodybuilders don't even claim to be "natural"--still a lot of steroid and HGH use.

I did appreciate these episodes making fun of the puritanical diet faddism of the male lead, and the Skinny Men Fighting club with its one member wanting to become strong was funny. It does seem from the previews that the next episode will continue to take on diet faddism a little bit more, which is another thing I'd appreciate. I have a family member who works out all the time who is still on the "paleo" diet, a fad a few years back which appealed to men who liked to imagine themselves as wild "cavemen" notwithstanding the fact that humans in paleolithic times did eat plenty of carbohydrates.

Anyway, for me these episodes were good enough to continue watching, albeit with low expectations overall.

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I'm in complete agreement with your week 2 assessment @hacja! I almost didn't attempt these episodes, but they were indeed funnier and more palatable. If one can embrace the OTT silliness, and appreciate the pokes at various aspects of diet and fitness, this is an easy going watch. I still don't think it's as sharp as Gaus (same director), but that would be a script issue.

I'll add that the soundtrack is dang good (and they aren't releasing it fast enough) 😀

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I'm watching episode 4, and honestly, this show is hilarious. It keeps making me laugh out loud. Both leads are so funny. I guess it was a bit of a rocky start because we weren't sure what it was going to be. It seemed at first that it would be a show about a woman's quest for fitness, but that was achieved at the end of episode 2.

But it seems to have definitively settled on a humorous tone. Who knows if that will change, but for now, it's amusing me.

I'm watching Mi Ran run home due to an emergency (a visit from Mom), and she is outrunning a delivery bike, and the driver thinks that there is something wrong with his bike. It's hilarious!

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More hilarious moments. Hyeon Jung comes back to an unexpectedly empty gym and is excited to work out alone. He doesn't realize that Mi Ran is there hiding out from her mother. Through a series of hilarious mishaps, he becomes convinced that there is a ghost in the gym. The ghost being Mi Ran of course
In another scene, Mi Ran finally confesses why her boyfriend broke up with her, not sugar-coating it one bit, while a nearby pianist starts reacting to her story through her piano, and all the other patrons gasp.

Hilarious

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I also love the scene where Mi-Rans sister and her boyfriend, dressed up as some punk rock(?) singers scare Mi-Rans (ex-)boyfriend away with a diss song.
I am all in for the insanely over the top silliness of the humor, but can understand why this show got panned in the first impressions recap with all the critic points listed there. Right now I'm looking forward for each new episode, and hope it doesn't turn out as just the toxic bodyshaming show as feared in the beginning. After the first 2 episodes the trajectry seems to veer off from this..

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I liked how Mi Ran was like stop body/fat shaming me with your sweet words haha

Also I liked when she told him to stop or asked him why he was whispering in her ear haha

(I can't remember specifics but I remember though moments made me chuckle)

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At the end, where he's asleep because he got drunk, and she moves away from him, and he grabs her wrist, and you think, okay, typical k-drama trope, but all he cares about is the candy bar she stole from him. So funny

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I agree it started a little rocky and body shaming-ish, but now it's just hilarious. I rarely ever laugh this much watching a K-drama.

Oh, and what about when he is in the rival gym, hiding behind a potted tree. lol

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I am so glad that you are getting that vibe from this drama. When a K-drama is laugh out loud funny, NOTHING compares to it. I found most of Gaus electronics (after the first couple of episodes), Yumi’s cells, No gain, no love, Shooting Stars, the early episodes of Wedding impossible were tears running down my face funny. For weeks afterwards, I just needed to think of certain scenes randomly and the tears would run down my face. The after effects of those scenes is on my ‘reasons why I love K dramas’ list. That’s also why I get so annoyed when they mix that level of joy with elements from genres that evoke the opposite reactions.

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The moments that make me laugh are the ridiculous haha. Like how the leads are shown singing their thoughts.

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This reminds me a bit of Crazy Ex Girlfriend, where the main star imagines her feelings as musical numbers in her head.

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I liked Crazy Ex Girlfriend!
I'm mildly surprised there has been a musical show like it made into a kdrama considering it seems EVERY actor seems to either have a nice singing voice or comes from a singing background (like idols)

Though I've never watched it, I guess the closest to it would be Hospital Playlist?

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3 episodes in: I LOVE this show!

It's so ridiculous, so cute, so sweet, so laugh-out-loud hilarious, with so much heart.

My only regret is starting it too soon because I thought 8 episodes had aired already. 🤦🏻‍♀️ Now I'll hit live-watching and I don't like that at all. Can I stop myself from watching right now before I'm too deep in??

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I LOVED ep 4! It was so good! I laughed so much, awwwwed so many times, and never ff'ed even one ten second.

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Glad you jumped onboard the PUMP UP bandwagon.
As the dramady progresses it keeps getting better.

SKIP THIS as tiny spoilerish:
Writer-nim! Where’s my man Kim kwon? He has been missing in action for the last couple of episodes.

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Oh I have watched through episode 7. Episode 8 tonight..

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