Heavenly Ever After: Episodes 1-2
by lovepark
Heartfelt and funny, Heavenly Ever After makes a strong first impression with a creative premise and lovable characters. A woman who believed she was bound for hell ends up in heaven, but her second chance at life comes with an unexpected twist. What exactly does the future hold for our unconventional heroine, and will she achieve her happily ever after?
EPISODES 1-2
The show opens to a gambling addict hounded by loan sharks, but these burly gangsters have to wait their turn since another shark is here to collect: our protagonist LEE HAE-SOOK (Kim Hye-ja). Contrary to her genial features, Hae-sook is a heartless business woman with a tenacious streak. The amounts she lends may seem paltry – a couple hundred thousand won here and there – but around these parts, her infamy is renowned.
Armed with an umbrella and her muscle LEE YOUNG-AE (Lee Jung-eun), Hae-sook remains unfazed by the snide comments, dirty looks, and buckets of water thrown her way. Not even death can forgive her debts as she collects what is due, but the callous woman the world sees isn’t all there is to her. Deep down, Hae-sook was once a timid young lady met with tragedy, and despite years of hardening her heart, that loving soul still exists when she’s around the right people.
Next to her husband GO NAK-JUN (Park Woong), Hae-sook transforms into a giggling wife, and though she cared for him for nearly sixty years since his accident that left him paraplegic, their relationship remains jovial and bright. So much so, in fact, that poor Young-ae smacks herself with a pan, preferring to faint than to hear their lovey-dovey confessions. However, underneath the jokes and smiles, a current of sadness flows gently through their relationship, and while its presence may not be overbearing, a tinge of guilt and regret remains ingrained in their interactions.
As death looms ever closer to the elderly couple, Nak-jun admires his wife, calling her beautiful. He tells her that she was pretty when she was young, but as the days go by, his love for her grows as does her beauty. Hae-sook responds in kind, saying that he looks the most handsome now, and this tender conversation is the last we see between them before Nak-jun passes. At first, Hae-sook yells at him for pulling another prank, but in reality, she knows her beloved is gone no matter how much she wishes otherwise.
With nothing left to tie her to this world, Hae-sook waits for death and sets up Young-ae on a blind date so she won’t be alone after she leaves. Rather than feel grateful for the pretty dress and handsome guy, Young-ae makes a scene and cries her heart out. She understands that Hae-sook is sad but why must she try to leave her so soon. Her tears move Hae-sook to live a little longer, and once she teaches her apprentice her final trick of the trade, she follows after her husband a year later.
At her funeral, a grim reaper (special appearance by Jo Woo-jin) appears to pick her up and waits with Hae-sook for her subway to the afterlife. She asks him if he saw her husband by any chance, and he passes along his message that he walked to the next life on his own two feet. Once the train arrives, Hae-sook bows to the surly reaper, and he returns the gesture. It’s a simple addition to a humorous interaction but one that highlights Hae-sook’s core nature. She might be foul-mouthed and easily annoyed, but she acts with decorum and treats others with dignity even when they don’t always give her the same courtesy.
The subway car Hae-sook enters is filled with older people as well as a few younger folks and even a child. Most sit nervously as they approach their first stop, and the light disappears outside as hands start banging on the windows. This is hell, and all passengers bound to this place are flung out of their seats and into the darkness. Unlike the others, Hae-sook assumes this is her stop and tries to get up, but her butt remains glued down to her surprise.
After the doors close, Hae-sook realizes that she is going to heaven, and she disembarks with the rest to join the queue into the afterlife. The first test is to get through a detector as the heavenly workers explain that all entrants must leave their stuff behind. From the snippets we see, it seems the items reflect people’s regrets – a mother’s bank accounts for her orphaned children and a firefighter’s mask for the girl he couldn’t save – but Hae-sook has nothing in her possession, making her even more anxious about her situation.
The workers, though, don’t seem to pay her any heed as they usher her to her next destination: a consultation before entering heaven. The worker explains to Hae-sook that she gets to decide who to live with under a few stipulations – she chooses her husband who also chose her – and she gets to pick the age she wants to be. Hae-sook immediately says twenty-five (the age she met her husband), but at the last second, she remembers their conversation. She amends her answer to eighty, and the consultant triple-checks with her since she cannot change it later.
For the rare individuals who choose to be eighty and over, heaven equips them with a narration button that says what they’re thinking aloud. As soon as Hae-sook clicks it, the narrator reveals her desires – a steamy reunion with her husband – and one magic trick later, our heroine lands in a field inside a present. All she has to do now is follow her heart, quite literally, and it leads her to a house with her and her husband’s name etched in the front.
Hae-sook’s apprehensions vanish as she enters the yard to see her beloved again, but the man who exits the door is a much younger version of Nak-jun (Sohn Seok-gu). Adding insult to injury, he doesn’t instantly recognize her and then gasps as the realization hits him. Hae-sook curses under her breath, and a purple grape falls from the sky, unbeknownst to either of them.
After getting over the initial shock, Nak-jun excitedly takes Hae-sook’s hand and shows her that he can run now. He even offers to give her a piggyback ride, and while he thinks they look like a cute couple, her inner monologue calls them a mother and son pairing. Upset over her age and the fact that Nak-jun doesn’t even remember calling her beautiful, Hae-sook thinks she came to heaven by mistake since everything “good” about this place only makes her feel uncomfortable and misplaced.
Nak-jun tries to cheer up his wife since he loves her all the same, but from the towel she used to cover up the mirror, the issue may be her lack of self-acceptance and worsening self-consciousness. Especially in a world absent of people like her, it makes sense then that Hae-sook wants to go back to her twenties and mistakenly asks the community center president (Cheon Ho-jin) for a re-do.
The glowing man with the booming voice, though, is not God, and during orientation, it becomes clear that this version of the afterlife is more akin to “not hell” rather than paradise. The center president warns the new inhabitants that they don’t have super powers or instantaneous healing, so any physical constraints that bound them in the living world apply to them here, too. Furthermore, one’s place in heaven is not guaranteed, which means if someone does enough bad deeds (fighting, swearing, etc.), they can be dragged to hell. The president’s face flickers to a more demonic visage as he tells the crowd that they are always watching, and Hae-sook fidgets with worry.
After the meeting, Hae-sook verifies with Nak-jun that people mistakenly enter heaven all the time, but he assures his wife that she belongs here, no doubt in his mind. To prove it, he tells her to buy a meal with “good deeds” (the currency used in heaven), and to her delight, it works. It seems, at least for a moment, that Hae-sook is adjusting to her new surroundings, but as she shares an intimate moment with her husband, a woman in black appears out of nowhere and promptly vanishes.
While Hae-sook tosses and turns in bed that night, she hears the wails of Young-ae from below as she sits in the apartment all alone. When she was a little girl, Hae-sook barged into her home, looking for her debt-ridden dad. She threatened to stay until she got her money back, but the older woman’s presence was actually a welcome change for the neglected girl. Hae-sook heated up her home and her heart, and when her dad returned only to hit her, Hae-sook intervened and essentially adopted her. Hae-sook was all Young-ae had, and now that she is gone, Young-ae is lost.
Back in heaven, Hae-sook attends her second day of orientation, but instead of going to the meeting, she notices a group with two older people like her and follows them. The worker leading this particular class scolds a few individuals for pooping and peeing in the streets, and while Hae-sook finds their behavior odd, she hasn’t yet put the clues together. It isn’t until they go outside to meet their “owners” that Hae-sook realizes the truth, and these people shift into their canine forms as they reunite with their loved ones.
Having learned that animals can look like humans, too, Hae-sook crosses paths with the woman in black again and finally recognizes her cat Sonya. As they reconnect, even her cat is confused to see her looking so old, and Hae-sook finally breaks. She confronts Nak-jun for his empty words and cries about missing her youth. She devoted her life to him once already, and now she wasted her second chance because she trusted him.
Feeling guilty for not remembering, Nak-jun promises to take care of the situation, but alas, the staff inform them that they cannot turn someone young again. Hae-sook asks if the reverse could happen, then, and Nak-jun blurts out his true feelings, saying that it wouldn’t be fair. When his wife grills him about what he means, Nak-jun sheds a tear and agrees to look older, but the staff lets them know that he can’t change, either.
On their walk home, Hae-sook tells Nak-jun that she is glad he stayed young since she fell for his face, but her attempts to lighten his guilt only make him feel more selfish. He apologizes for ignoring her plight even though he knew what she endured to take care of the family, and though she tried to shield him from the truth back when they were alive, Nak-jun heard it all from his caregiver. He felt like he didn’t even have the right to cry and prayed every day for his death in order to lessen her burdens.
Hae-sook comforts her husband, telling him that she doesn’t regret a thing since she married him for his looks, and he chuckles at her joke. As they finally hug for the first time since their deaths, Hae-sook tears up and says that she really is in heaven.
Meanwhile in the living world, Young-ae moves around in a daze and stumbles across a medium who claims to commune with the dead. It’s obvious that the lady is fake with her terrible impression of Hae-sook, but in her current state, Young-ae believes her lies and shouts that she will go to her side. We then hear a loud crash, and the implications of what happened next is clear.
This terrible chain of events, though, remains oblivious to Hae-sook who enjoys a stroll back home with Nak-jun. As they reach their house, he tells her that he prepared something special, and Hae-sook’s narrator hopes it’s something more physical than a hug. Unfortunately, when he does his big reveal, a mysterious lady (Han Ji-min) stands at their door and rushes towards Nak-jun to hug him. Assuming the worst, Hae-sook grabs the other lady by the hair, and when Nak-jun tries to stop her, she grabs him, too. She curses at her husband, and from the sky, three more grapes fall down.
I absolutely adore Hae-sook. She’s fun and brazen without being rude, and I love how her internal conflict is complex and richly layered. Her being old in heaven could have been treated as a gimmick to simply garner laughs, but already, the show is exploring so many topics and emotions regarding her condition. The issue isn’t about whether Nak-jun could see beyond the physical (he clearly loves his wife no matter her age) but rather about Hae-sook and her self-image. It also serves as a larger metaphor of how society pushes out certain people like the elderly, and even after death, people aren’t truly free to be themselves. While she was alive, Hae-sook never saw herself kindly, and now that she is in a world where she doesn’t feel like she belongs, her appearance acts as a manifestation of those doubts and alienation.
Though Hae-sook might not see her own worth at times, thankfully those around her notice and appreciate her warmth and love. Young-ae is such a sweetheart, and it makes so much sense why the loss of Hae-sook hit her so hard. It wasn’t just about losing a mother-figure but the fact that Hae-sook seemed to not care about leaving her behind. As a result, when Young-ae heard that Hae-sook still needed her, she jumped at the chance to help. As for Nak-jun, I found both actors’ portrayals charming, capturing the playfulness of the character as well as his unwavering adoration for his wife. Despite the scars he has, Nak-jun remains bright, and seeing all the things he prepared in a year while waiting for her was bittersweet. It captured a lifetime of conversations and dreams as well as his past and present guilt. While he might have wanted a second chance at life with his wife from the beginning, he still loves older Hae-sook, and I’m glad the show kept that part of him consistent no matter the ages.
The depiction of heaven was creative with enough similarities to our world to make it feel familiar yet punctuated with well-timed distinctions to remind the viewers that this is the afterlife. I found the automation, in particular, funny as well as terrifying since the iron cage of bureaucracy follows us even after death, and the subtle (as well as overt) unease resulting from it permeates throughout the setting suggesting that something isn’t right. The threat of hell is sure to keep people in line, but what’s the end goal? If the president’s speech about living life with no regrets is true and that their time is not eternal, do the residents die again? Hopefully as the show continues, we’ll learn more about this world and the rules that govern it.
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Tags: Han Ji-min, Heavenly Ever After, Kim Hye-ja, Lee Jung-eun, Sohn Seok-gu
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1 ava
April 21, 2025 at 3:15 PM
My dog is 14 years old.
The part where the people transform into dogs, in the second episode made me cry like there is no tomorrow.
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abalyn
April 21, 2025 at 4:14 PM
I am not a pet person and I cried.
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Reply1988 - 🍊Mother Bean🍊
April 21, 2025 at 5:58 PM
I love that cat character. I loved the way they portrayed the pets it was brilliantly inspired. I have always said that cats are reincarnated humans hence their aloof attitude and they captured that attitude perfectly. I don’t understand why she didn’t change once she was reunited with her owner but maybe cats have a choice but dogs love being dogs!
I expected the main leads to adopt the strays as a package because they are now a found family of three.
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kdramakat
April 21, 2025 at 6:05 PM
I don't know who the actor is, but she was a perfect cat - those eyes! And I also wanted the couple to take the abandoned dog trio home. Well, there's still time!
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Leo
May 4, 2025 at 9:40 PM
Sonya the cat's actress name is Choi Hee Jin
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2 abalyn
April 21, 2025 at 4:13 PM
Heaven is just a slightly better earth life. In some ways this makes sense, as it creates a world people can understand. Yet it does seem odd that they have to eat and sleep or that older looking bodies have limitations. It’s clear that there is a twist. I am curious to see how this will go. I am optimistic for as interesting a tale as the Good Life. The feeling that something is not right is contrasted with really touching, if a little bizarre, moments between people and people and their pets. This seems to be where the real heaven is.
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Reply1988 - 🍊Mother Bean🍊
April 21, 2025 at 6:19 PM
I agree the fact that there was pain and limitations in the body was a red flag. Also the chore element of caring for a kid makes no sense but the contrast of the child’s behaviour and adult voice was funny. The other red flags were hearing the distress of loved ones and needing to monitor behaviour to avoid hell.
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DK-Drama ❤️🎄 Giffing n Space Cadetting 👼🏻🌟
April 22, 2025 at 7:28 AM
Well, there is that uhm, Skærsilden , it's called in Danish, "Pure Fire" or "Cut Herring" depending on how you divide the compound, Purgatory, but usually it's depicted as more straightforward torture, with participants knowing that eventually, they will go to Heaven - according to Dante, the souls for that reason smilingly endure the torture for some centuries or decades, no worries.
But well, I did think it was dumb not to ask what age her hubby had chosen, and also that she couldn't change her mind. Assuming bodies mean anything at all in heaven.
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DK-Drama ❤️🎄 Giffing n Space Cadetting 👼🏻🌟
April 22, 2025 at 7:47 AM
Also, just the train to Heaven - you need to have a lot of Schadenfreude to enjoy seeing people - even your twin sister - being dragged out of the train, screaming and begging for help.
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DK-Drama ❤️🎄 Giffing n Space Cadetting 👼🏻🌟
April 22, 2025 at 12:18 PM
Didn't she get younger, like in Howl's moving castle, when they talked an hugged towards the end? Didn't she look like a slightly younger - like ten years - younger?
Did her hair get darker and shinier or am I just imagining things?
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3 Xpressemu
April 21, 2025 at 6:59 PM
I was really excited for this show and enjoyed the premiere episodes. I am fully behind and rooting for our protagonist! It is also nice to see Sohn Seok-gu in a role that is not a detective or cop. I’m also enjoying the Good Place vibes the show is giving and am interested to see what this “heaven” really is.
There were a couple of minor inconsistencies and issues I had but none that fully ruined my overall enjoyment. My 2 main gripes are all the extra added emotionally moving stories they had to throw in (firefighter, abandoned dogs, etc.) I suppose I understand their purpose but I didn’t need to cry harder than I already was. I’m also not on board with the implication that Young-ae commits suicide to follow Hae-sook and how the show will handle that subject if it goes that route. I’m hoping it just ends up being a coincidently timed accident.
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Reply1988 - 🍊Mother Bean🍊
April 21, 2025 at 10:50 PM
Yes if that did happen outside the fake shaman’s business, I hope it is the wake up call she needs to realise the serious consequences of her scamming vulnerable people and leads to her becoming a better person.
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jerrykuvira
April 21, 2025 at 11:42 PM
It is also nice to see Sohn Seok-gu in a role that is not a detective or cop.
That is my major draw-in to watch this. It is a breathe of fresh air in the plethora of his recent consecutive drama choices.
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Xpressemu
April 22, 2025 at 4:11 PM
Yes, me too! Since My Liberation Notes it seems like he’s just done crime dramas/thrillers. Which were fine, but meh character-wise 😩
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4 queenmee
April 21, 2025 at 11:13 PM
Had no idea of Sohn Soek-gu's existence until I saw this drama. I had come for my 3 girls but I'm all the way sat because of that man. The way he looked at his wife even in her old age was endearing and that's good acting. Can't wait to see the story unfold. And like others I'm a bit skeptical this being heaven. It's giving "the good place" vibes. Otherwise let's all skip heaven if we can still end up in hell.
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abalyn
April 22, 2025 at 8:12 AM
I would recommend looking up his past work. He always takes really interesting roles. You might not love his characters always, but his characters are always fascinating.
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Reply1988 - 🍊Mother Bean🍊
April 22, 2025 at 8:37 AM
You are so right, I hated his character in Matrimonial chaos he was so cruel and blasé it drove me mad. I just about accepted his character in Be melodramatic because of the positive impact he had on our lost soul. I have not watched him in anything else. He is doing a great job with this character I wonder what draws him to these unconventional roles.
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queenmee
April 22, 2025 at 8:53 AM
I just watched him in my liberation notes @abalyn thank you for the heads up. Man is a red flag but I'm drawn to him hehehe
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PYC
April 22, 2025 at 8:51 AM
SSK - better late than never!!! He can overshadow the screen without doing anything.
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abalyn
April 22, 2025 at 5:28 PM
I was reading about him yesterday and found out he didn’t break into acting until his early thirties. He spent time in the US and Canada when young and trained as a filmmaker. I think that may be part of what gives him such a different feeling.
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Reply1988 - 🍊Mother Bean🍊
April 22, 2025 at 6:11 PM
It’s such a competitive career it’s surprising to see someone enter so late and get such key roles.
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5 geminirat
April 21, 2025 at 11:16 PM
Thank you for the recap, @lovepark! Because of this, I now remembered that Hae-sook got a cue from the woman who gave her a choice on what age to enter heaven. She said: Your husband wanted to tell you that he WALKED to heaven! That means at an age in his earlier life when he could still walk, before the accident that rendered him a paraplegic. I can understand how she feels because that is how I feel when I am with my family - unable to do many of the things they enjoy doing because they're young.
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sumi
April 28, 2025 at 2:31 PM
I had thought that too, but then when I went back and checked it was the Grim Reaper (the guy in the black suit at the funeral hall) that had conveyed her husband's message to her, that he "walked on his own two legs" to Heaven. And even the flashback showed the husband to be old in the Grim reaper's memory, but able to walk . And remember, the Grim Reaper did say there were different ways to get to Heaven, and it seems the husband chose to walk (which was an option, along with flying, car/taxi, subway and plane). So, based on this, one could argue that Hae-sook could have made the assumption that the husband might have chosen to stay old in age, as long as he was able to walk. Atleast....this allows me to lightly plug this plot hole :)
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6 Reply1988 - 🍊Mother Bean🍊
April 21, 2025 at 11:57 PM
I enjoyed the mix of humour and fantasy. I will be all in for the duration as I want to see where this story goes. I loved the main couple’s dynamic that they had maintained throughout their marriage. I don’t get why they slept separately though surely they could have stayed in the same room even if they didn’t share the same bed as there was plenty of room for her to sleep on the floor and there was no need for an overnight carer. As his arms worked fine you would think they would want to cuddle at nights.
I am assuming this is an in between place to help with the transition from the corruption of Earth to the purity of heaven. The fire fighter and the mother with the children in the orphanage were so sad despite being in heaven how will they be able to move on from their regrets? So we see that it’s not just our female lead who is not at peace despite being in heaven.
It makes no sense that they arrive in heaven, only to have humans running things who still have human attitudes and no one sees or mentions God apart from our female lead.
I like fantasy dramas that make me think so I have compiled a list of questions that I hope will be answered over the next few weeks:
I love the machine that verbalises her thoughts although I look forward to finding out why the elderly need it. No one would want their inner thoughts said out loud for everyone to hear, so why is it just the elderly who have to face that humiliation?
The blind can see, those who were ill are cured but the staff member was putting in eye drops at her desk. What was causing the dryness? Heaven would have eliminated pollution and be an ambient environment for whoever lives there, surely that is just a given considering it’s supposed to be the perfect place to live.
It is also interesting that all the negative human attitudes are still present; people stare and make comments about the age difference couple, people still have negative experiences and have negative thoughts. They clearly state they don’t want negativity in heaven so why are people in heaven still having to work hard to contain themselves to be decent to each other?
I also don’t understand why animals become human only to turn back into animals once claimed by their humans. Does this only happen with cats and dogs or does this happen with any domesticated animal like horses, rabbits, hamsters etc? Who wants to be clearing up animal waste in heaven? There should be a system for eliminating it just as there is a system to have food of your choice instantly created.
What happens to wild animals? Are they roaming freely and everyone gets along or like humans do they still behave in ways that mean they kill each other for food and territory?
Who designed the automation to decide who gets in to heaven? Why does it fail sometimes so the wrong people get into heaven?
The whole everyone is on the same train whatever their destination was harsh. I was also confused why the announcement was in...
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Reply1988 - 🍊Mother Bean🍊
April 21, 2025 at 11:58 PM
Korean and English. They are in Korea so why isn’t it just Korean. When people die are they going to a Korean heaven or a universal heaven where everyone hears and speaks in their own language? Star Trek had a universal translation system so people from different planets spoke and heard everything in their own language simultaneously. If someone was just working temporarily in Korea and died wouldn’t they want to be going to a place where they would see and be around their family and friends from whatever country they came from?
The whole choosing the age to be would be hard for children and babies so how is that decided? Who will look after them? Are they frozen at that age or do they grow into the adults they would have become if they didn’t die? Will the firefighter be the little girl’s carer until her parents arrive? What about his own family?
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DK-Drama ❤️🎄 Giffing n Space Cadetting 👼🏻🌟
April 24, 2025 at 12:08 AM
Those were good questions! Next week, I suggest you number questions for easier reference! ❤️❤️❤️
I think the narrator machine is there to take the p*ss out of her. They said, though, that it was because the elderly often speak hesitantly or maybe do not have the breath to actually speak audibly loud and fast.
When the ... receptionist? angel? discount Janet? dripped her eyes, I thought at first she was going to pretend to cry. But she didn't. So then I assumed two things: 1) Staff members are overworked. Eyes get dry when you are tired. 2) She was impolite and dismissive, and dripping her eyes was part of that. Telling the client that she was an inconvenience and too much work. Like if she had been filing her nails ... under M, for "More important than you".
Everybody on the same train = harsh? Yeah, you bet! What a horror show!
Announcements in Korean and English; Probably, that's how it works in actual Korean train stations. At least we do that in Denmark, I can tell you. Though sometimes they have a clear Danish accent, which is fun as they are pre-recorded and they could have hired a brit, easily.
BUT of course it makes no sense if this were real heaven; in a few weeks, we have Pentecost, the introduction of the Holy Ghost and tongues of fire, when the disciples spoke and everybody understood them regardless of their own language. (As opposed to modern "speaking in tongues" in churches, which is just gibberish that nobody understands - strange to connect that the opposite and say it's the same). Hrm hm, anyhow, logically the train's loudspeakers should be speaking in tongues - the pentecostal kind - but it would be hard to convey on film, and not give the same comic/horrifying feel of well-organized merciless luxury.
The age thing is definitely not heavenly. I'd rather expect everybody to change back and forth according to their needs. And I'd expect babies to get the chance to go through the joys and terrors of being young and then be grown-ups and have the joy of, you know, grown-ups. But all in it's own time, giving them at least 25-30 years of eternity to grow up before they find a form they might want to stay in.
Also, considering the lame can walk and the blind can see, you'd think that even an 80-year-old looking would be fit and strong, right? The whole idea that you don't heal makes no sense if you are there for anything like an eternity, does it?
Nah, this can't be heaven. It just can't. And it's not that (hilarious) version either that I read once, where you stayed there until you had just had enough. (Those that read and criticised books stayed there the longest, there were always more books to read and more discussions to have). The narrator in that short-story perfected his golf skills for some hundred years, and some other skills, and then after 300 years, he chose nothingness and oblivion.
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DK-Drama ❤️🎄 Giffing n Space Cadetting 👼🏻🌟
April 24, 2025 at 12:11 AM
Apropos language and speaking in tongues:
https://youtu.be/NyzIMC_vEh8?si=qft6cc-cdslFIXPD
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Reply1988 - 🍊Mother Bean🍊
April 24, 2025 at 11:44 AM
I am a Christian too so wondering why heaven is about hobbies to make up for the lack of time to enjoy life when living on earth and NOBODY mentioning God seems odd to say the leat. Eternity, faith, healing and new bodies that don’t know death all seem to be irrelevant here. I wonder about the message that doing good works without faith is the way to have a good life in this version of heaven.
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DK-Drama ❤️🎄 Giffing n Space Cadetting 👼🏻🌟
April 24, 2025 at 5:28 PM
I have never seen a good depiction of Christian afterlife - unless it was very silly.
When it takes itself seriously, it becomes ... idk ... condescending, simplistic, and suffocating in the depiction of a good afterlife. Like a communist* mural.
Maybe except Dante. Or, his Heaven was abstract enough to be something. Still, everybody knows that His Inferno was much more fun to read.
I hope it stays fairly silly but has good points about ... well, like you said, more or less. And kind of that, except for being self depreciating, cuz don't do that, acting with love fills your life with heaven.
And I don't expect my own idea of sin to ever pop up in anybody's art description, but to me, being an evil person is so deeply deeply embarrassing that I can't understand how such a person can enjoy life at all. I nobody were ever told, and there was not even a God looking at you - would you like to secretly be the one who made all the unjust money that Trump is making, while getting people you don't care for dragged away? No?
That's because - you know when you see some poor alcoholic, super drunk, and sitting in his own p*ss, smiling. He is so happy, would you swap places? No.
And I see people like Trump that way: He is sitting in his own pool of greed, pettiness, self-pity, lies, and evilness.
I myself have my own flaws and you could say that seen from Heaven maybe I would be like someone who didn't wash my hair frequently enough. But people with a lot of money and very little good in them, they are the alcoholics of sin, sitting there in their own ... eeewww.
And an actual alcoholic can maybe someday get back on his feet, and he is only hurting people in his inability todo what he most often wishes he could do. While some of those who make a lot of damage on a lot of people, they are quite happy with themselves. They are like that alcoholic in the moment he is most drunk, so pleased with themselves.
*) About Communist murals: And as an idea, I would be a communist myself, but am more like a Social Democrat**, because I just don't like 1) killing people and 2) totalitarianism and tyranny. And that mood shines through in those Cultural Revolution Murals and the Russian equivalent ones.
**) Social Democrat, like, the idea of welfare, mutual care, redistribution of income, and democracy. Not like the Danish party by that name as it has become. But like it once was.
DK-Drama ❤️🎄 Giffing n Space Cadetting 👼🏻🌟
April 25, 2025 at 11:37 AM
Here is my favourite description of a Christian Heaven. It is very silly, so this is not a call for anybody to make this their heavenly myth.
The astronauts have come astray on their way back from Saturn and end up at the entrance to Heaven. Two of their colleagues have died, so they are also hoping to smuggle them out and back to life.
Here, they meet Saint Peter and sing to him.
First, at Christmas song, but a very secular one. It is usually sung while everybody grab each others' hands and rund through the house. No profanity, just very silly.
And one of them says "Shut up, that's not about God or Heaven!" and then they sing a song about Heaven, but it's a drinking song, melody: "She'll be coming round the mountain" and the lyrics:
🎵🎶🎵🍻🍺🎲🎲
:/I'll play dice with old St. Peter when I die!/:
If I use my usual tricks' hack
I can make him buy a sixpack
I'll play dice with old St. Peter when I die!
🎵🎶🎵🍻🍺🎲🎲
Which does not please the Saint.
Still, they manage to hustle their way in, and they meet Spare Jesus al little brother, who shows them around, Jesus Christ, (a young leather clad frequent visitor to Earth) and the cute old bearded Lord himself (Falling asleep while listening to the heavenly choir's praises and waking up with a start: "I WAS NOT SLEEPING!"). And they ask their two friends to go with them. One chooses to stay, while the other one is happy to get a chance to go home.
http://www.planetpulp.dk/billeder/tegneserier/rejsen_til_saturn/rejsen_til_saturn_04_stor.jpg
PS: Here they first meet Spare Jesus at the sorting station. Trigger Warning: There is some full frontal. It's not sexual, it's just how you arrive in heaven, it seems.
The Hellish creatures are copied from Danish Church Frescos from between 1200 and 1550.
https://politiken.dk/migration_catalog/article4249837.ece/ALTERNATES/p16x9_960/No%20name
If you want to see the originals, they are here https://kalkmalerier.dk/query.php
The Comic is "The Journey to Saturn" by Claus Deleuran. A film has been made over the comic, but it totally lacks the jovial charm of the comic and it will be unclear for anyone watching the film why Danes love the comic so much.
Ask me for details if you want to know more about the comic.
Reply1988 - 🍊Mother Bean🍊
April 22, 2025 at 12:04 AM
Thanks for the recap @lovepark and for mentioning the falling grapes which I think are a clear indication of the tracking system. I was shouting at the screen when she started swearing and physically fighting the woman and her husband. Like she would hear me telling her stop🤣 I just had visions of her ending up being sent to hell before her first week in heaven had finished.
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abalyn
April 22, 2025 at 8:15 AM
You are right, there are so many questions! I love your list.
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7 DK-Drama ❤️🎄 Giffing n Space Cadetting 👼🏻🌟
April 22, 2025 at 7:45 AM
Greetings to all Catholics! I will use this very silly discussion about Heaven and Hell to say something quite sincere to all of you:
A lot of us non-catholics are very sad to hear that Francis the Pope has passed. For him, the world was not just Catholics and the church, but Catholics and Church in the world, and in return, he was loved by many people of various or no religion/s. (Me, a protestant, in the Danish blissful sage Grundtvig's perspective on love, happiness, mercy, and history).
I do not have much hope that I will be as happy about the life of ... actually, any other Pope in the rest of my life time, which is less than I have lived through already.
His kind, sensible voice has been so much needed in these times.
He will be missed.
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8 Reply1988 - 🍊Mother Bean🍊
April 22, 2025 at 8:44 AM
@missvictrix error alert there are rating scores showing for this new drama that is only in week 1🕵️♀️ investigation needed. How did they get round the locked down system?
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9 Eazal
April 22, 2025 at 12:18 PM
Why did I get The Good Place vibes. Maybe not really Heaven.
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Melora
May 19, 2025 at 12:07 PM
I thought so too. Even complete with the intro and her feeling out of place. But it can't be the really Bad Place because animals shouldn't be in the Bad Place.
I'm betting on this being the Meh Place.
I was contemplating re-watching The Good Place, so I'm pretty much hooked now.
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10 Deedz
April 23, 2025 at 8:17 AM
How do you say holy forking shirt balls in Korean?
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11 Mrs Buckwheat
April 24, 2025 at 12:36 AM
Thanks for the great recap lovepark.
This was a really interesting, funny and enjoyable watch.
The FL is amazing.
The acting between the leads in heaven is fabulous as despite the age gap they really do feel like a couple who know each other so well and have spent years together.
I look forward to the next episodes.
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