[Drama Chat] Fastest ship you tapped out of + why
by missvictrix
It wouldn’t be fair if we didn’t look at the reverse situation of last week’s chat. So in contrast to the OTP ships that made you instantaneously root for them, what are some examples of the opposite?
For me, sometimes I think I’m onboard but the lack of chemistry makes me lose interest. Other times I *want* to get on board the ship, but I just can’t. There are so many reasons I can’t…. (And yeah 67% of the time it might be because of a second lead situation.)
What’s the fastest K-drama ship you tapped out of and why? What made you jump ship?
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26 empressgirl
April 27, 2025 at 11:51 PM
This prompt just reminds me of an iconic scene in Chief Kim / The Good Manager:
Chief Kim (to dude): Do you know who's the luckiest guy in the movie Titanic?
Dude (venturing a guess): The last one who manages to scramble on a life boat?
Chief Kim: No. The guy who sold his ship ticket to Jack (Leonardo di Caprio).
Moral of the story: if you can smell that stinker of a ship that you knew from 50 miles off would tank, you win.
#nowastedemotions
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27 DK-Drama 🍉🚑🌎 Space Cadetting and Nest Boxing 🗽🍉
April 28, 2025 at 12:13 AM
Dear Hye-ri!!! Worse than Boys Over Flowers, if nothing else then because BOF clearly was a fairy tale (starting with an unfairy tale?) so the near-murder attempt were just crazy, while the unfolding of the horror of gaslighting in Dear Hye-Ri, making clear why she got so angry at being saved from the frost truck, though it seemed unreasonable when it happened ... I still shudder at the thought of how he actually treated her. As some will recall, I made a gif especially depicting my feelings about the "romantic" end, made worse by having swelling romantic music underline we were supposed to feel good about it.
https://i.imgur.com/pa67TCi.gif
And here was when my hairs first stood on end, noticing the slight smile on his face to be in the apparently accustomed situation of her having a panic attack: https://i.imgur.com/5mGkUau.gif
And here, she says it like it is: https://i.imgur.com/HO7qSr2.gif
And finally, me getting good and well tired of him ... I don't even remember what the plot was in the drama here, just that I cheered that villain on. In my gif, it's me in the driver's seat.
https://i.imgur.com/IUbeNsl.gif
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DK-Drama 🍉🚑🌎 Space Cadetting and Nest Boxing 🗽🍉
April 30, 2025 at 11:48 AM
I made a long post about how it was like one of the masterpieces of John Cassavetes, "A Woman Under Influence", a chaotic eerie piece about a woman who seemed to be wild and a bit crazy with an angelically patient husband, but really, maybe, she was doing everything and a bit more to accommodate her husbands need for a charming, free, approachable but in a certain amount that was hard to get right.
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28 redfox
April 28, 2025 at 1:20 AM
Choi ji Woo with anyone rly
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29 Procrasti-NationFirstCitizen
April 28, 2025 at 1:31 AM
I'm watching Rain or Shine, and the ML is just not it. I'm only on ep 2, and I get that it's Junho and all, but I'm absolutely not seeing the fit with the FL. How, when the other guy is Lee Ki Woo?! I think I'm going to have massive second lead syndrome with this show :(
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DK-Drama 🍉🚑🌎 Space Cadetting and Nest Boxing 🗽🍉
April 28, 2025 at 1:49 AM
That drama (which I saw *after* a lot of other dramas where he was older) was the first time I understood what all the fuss was about Junho.
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Isa is always time travelling
April 28, 2025 at 2:38 AM
It was my first drama starred by Junho and I loved him there. And later in Chief Kim and in The Red Sleeve (I liked his acting but the drama was disappointing).
But I don't love him enough to watch King the Land beyond the first episode 🙈
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Midnight
April 28, 2025 at 3:44 AM
I believe King the Land's first ep and 40 minutes of the second ep can be skipped if anyone insists on trying it, which I know no-one does! 😂
@db-staff Can anything be done for the problem with comments on the second page of a post? It's truly inconvenient 🙈
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Healer’s
April 28, 2025 at 4:20 AM
Haha, I must have decided to drop after 39-ish minute of the second ep of KTL then 😂
Healer’s
April 28, 2025 at 4:29 AM
(I'd add to your request: And a Comments or Beanies tab would be much appreciated. I know we can bookmark the link https://dramabeans.com/comments but a tab on the top of the page would be much more convenient).
Midnight
April 28, 2025 at 4:33 AM
@claire2009 YES! A recent comments tab can easily go where we have Celebs and recaps and dramas and news tabs all redundant and barely used 🙈
Midnight
April 28, 2025 at 4:36 AM
@claire2009 I respect your judgement even if you dropped it at ep 12 🥰 I mean I'm the beanie who usually finds DB's most beloved dramas boring, so I should be the last one to criticize 🙈
Healer’s
April 28, 2025 at 4:43 AM
@Midnight I haha-ed because it felt like you just described the time stamp where I dropped the show. It's funny because had I tried harder, I could have come to enjoy it 😂
Midnight
April 28, 2025 at 4:46 AM
@claire2009 😂🫰
DK-Drama 🍉🚑🌎 Space Cadetting and Nest Boxing 🗽🍉
April 28, 2025 at 5:35 AM
Yes please to doing something about the second page problem.
Until then, inserting /comment-page-2/ after "why" in the url gets you to the right comment 🙂
I'll just check another page, just a minute ... yes. Inserting /comment-page-2/ after the title of the page, before the things that signify what comment or subcomment it is about, will get you to the right place, including scrolling down to the comment.
For the comment I just checked in "what we're watching", it was after "april-26-2025" and before "#comment".
DK-Drama 🍉🚑🌎 Space Cadetting and Nest Boxing 🗽🍉
April 28, 2025 at 5:38 AM
It goes for this very comment as well;
... -of-why/comment-page-2/#comment-4261603
Midnight
April 28, 2025 at 5:41 AM
@ceciliedk Thank you Cecil 🫰😊
Procrasti-NationFirstCitizen
April 28, 2025 at 6:17 AM
Oh KTL! I skip-hopped through it the first time (was still a relative newbie then), and it was quite cringe but still I was willing to give the whole thing a try... Yesterday, I decided to click play on it again for some reason, and... 🫣... HOW was it such a hit?!
Yes. Junho in suits. Junho under a sprinkler. Junho in a pool. Junho in a... you get my drift. But other than that...
Healer’s
April 28, 2025 at 8:30 AM
@ceciliedk I swear it took me a minute. I first thought “why” was totally sarcastic, like “why this issue hasn’t been solved?” 😂
Thank you for the tip 🫰
Midnight
April 28, 2025 at 8:40 AM
@claire2009 Exactly me!! 😂😂
Also, I tried the trick with this comment but it didn't work. I will try again.
Midnight
April 28, 2025 at 8:41 AM
It worked this time!
DK-Drama 🍉🚑🌎 Space Cadetting and Nest Boxing 🗽🍉
April 28, 2025 at 11:18 AM
@nivar I watched KTL with another beanie, though in a very impractical way, emailing! our comments. But it did make it more fun. Also we filled out a bingo card, and also disagreed vigorously on the contribution of Su-mi to the drama.
... Actually, I am posting a link for that bingo thing and my shipping, and also a gif of FL receiving the ugliest wedding ring that has ever disgraced the surface of the planet.
https://imgur.com/a/king-land-bingo-card-defense-of-su-mi-spoiler-alert-paMZnnY
Midnight
April 28, 2025 at 2:14 AM
This is very interesting to me! Because I have seen Lee Ki Woo in so many infuriating/disgusting/manipulative/just all-around punchable roles that now him being in the cast is enough for me to completely avoid a drama. Proves how different people's taste are.
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Procrasti-NationFirstCitizen
April 28, 2025 at 2:28 AM
I only saw him in Knight flower before this, and he was so cute in that as the elder brother :)...
He's also in Trunk, not a great character, agreed, but I anyway tend to not dwell on past roles... I like seeing the gamut of parts they can carry off.
As long as it isn't real-life villainy... nuh-uh.
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Midnight
April 28, 2025 at 2:33 AM
I have seen him in 7 roles since 2011 and the only one I didn't thoroughly dislike was in movie The Classic. I have been avoiding his more recent dramas.
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Isa is always time travelling
April 28, 2025 at 2:42 AM
You are right, he was a nice character in Knight Flower. I think this is the only time I liked him.
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empressgirl
April 28, 2025 at 2:14 AM
Sorry I don't get the fuss over Jun-Ho. At all.
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Gikata
April 28, 2025 at 7:20 AM
Now there's two of us here, yay!
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empressgirl
April 28, 2025 at 10:51 PM
Come and sit right next to me! 🤣
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Neolttwigi
May 1, 2025 at 5:10 AM
I'm already here, you just didn't notice me because I was quiet
Nessa🌹
May 6, 2025 at 7:13 PM
Me either, and I’m not sorry about it 😅😅
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Midnight
April 28, 2025 at 2:20 AM
I wasn't on the Rain or Shine ship at all either, but it was because of Won Jin Ah. To me a bad actress, visibly jumpy and scared of all romantic scenes, and zero chemistry with any of the cast.
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Procrasti-NationFirstCitizen
April 28, 2025 at 2:31 AM
Yeah, she looks really young in this role, and her tiny stature doesn't help matters at all. I like her voice, though, and I've liked a few of her other roles as well, especially in Life that i just finished watching.
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aigooooo
April 28, 2025 at 1:51 PM
Wow, so strange for me because that's the first show I thought of for fastest ship. I love them together. I guess it helps that I understand the fuss about Junho, and I loved the FL, even her awkwardness made sense considering her history and their situations, and made it more real and relatable and sexy. And by the end, she was the one who says "I want you." I LOVE THAT
I wasn't looking for glamor, I guess. Also I thought Lee Ki Woo's character was a tad creepy in this.
I also squeed my way through King the Land, which I thought was greatly underrated in a million ways. Mostly, for me, the ML's willingness to grow and learn, and the whole focus on the value of service work and genuinely caring about other people, whatever your job or title.
I guess it just goes to show that chemistry in a K drama is highly subjective.
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aigooooo
April 28, 2025 at 2:50 PM
I think it helped that I read drammadictally's write up of the show before I watched, so I wasn't just shipping a romcom but a friendship and a healing relationship as well.
https://dramabeans.com/2024/05/why-you-should-watch-just-between-lovers/
Also, that scene where he's carrying her and she loves the smell of his sweat really reminds me of when I met my husband, and his temples smelled like dried grass. Consider me toasted.
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aigooooo
April 28, 2025 at 3:36 PM
Also, can I just say that I think a lot about the moral courage of the female lead doing what she wants to do and loving who she wants to love. She has no doubts and convention means nothing to her. I think it comes from near death/actual death experience and being the child of an alcoholic.
I really really really love her, the ml and the whole show.
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Nessa🌹
May 6, 2025 at 1:58 PM
The drama as a whole is just not it for me:
I didn’t—still don’t— like the writer-nim’s portrayal of trauma and how the portrayal of dealing with trauma is written in the drama. It feels very “one size fits all” and that is the absolute worst thing you can say and tell to a person who’s been through trauma or is currently still trying to wade through it
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30 DK-Drama 🍉🚑🌎 Space Cadetting and Nest Boxing 🗽🍉
April 28, 2025 at 1:47 AM
Oh, and Jealousy Incarnate!!!! So much! There was just to much damage done in too evil ways there.
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31 roko
April 28, 2025 at 2:09 AM
Matrimonial Chaos - Son Suk-ku and Lee El, how could she just put up with his philandering?
Coffee Prince - 2nd lead couple, she really didn't treat him well and he kept wanting her to be a different person
Reborn Rich and Memories of the Alhambra - should have left out the romance completely in both
TKEM - Don't see the appeal of Kim Go Eun
Goblin - ditto, plus ick on so many levels
Boys Over Flowers - prefered the chaebol fiancée for GJP
Itaewon Class - both romances for PSJ were unappealing
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Reply1988 - 🍊Mother Bean🍊
April 28, 2025 at 4:07 AM
Thank you for mentioning Matrimonial chaos, that character drove me mad he was so out of order to his wife.
Coffee Prince 2nd lead couple is another perfect example. I could not see why he liked her she was just the embodiment of the ‘all about me’ show.
We were introduced to both these characters when things were already gone bad so we were never going to be able to join the ship in its golden era. They just left a bad taste which tainted the dramas for me. Although there were plenty of other reasons why Coffee Prince did not work for me.
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Midnight
April 28, 2025 at 4:14 AM
Any mention of any of the lovelines in Matrimonial Chaos is enough to make want to throw things 😑😑 All the lovelines were terrible.
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Healer’s
April 28, 2025 at 4:22 AM
After My Liberation Notes, I sought out other shows by Son Seokku, and I enjoyed Designated Survivor immensely. I think Matrionial Chaos that followed was what stopped my crush over him 😂
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Midnight
April 28, 2025 at 4:40 AM
😂😂 I have never been much of a fan of his, but Designated Survivor is the best role of his for me. I wanted to scream at him WHY can't you always be this sweet WHY!! 😂😂
32 OldLawyer
April 28, 2025 at 10:26 AM
POTATO LAB. The moment the ML fired the FL I was done with that pairing- and the drama. What a pity.
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33 lillamy
April 28, 2025 at 9:57 PM
LOVE NEXT DOOR for the leads being so boring and mean.
SERENDIPITY'S EMBRACE: The FL never deserved the ML's devotion. She was callous.
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34 Unaspirated
April 29, 2025 at 5:16 AM
I know this might be my least popular kdrama opinion, but it’s the second leads from Business Proposal.
I wanted to cheer for them so bad and I loved their interactions and the ways they were thrown together, but then they slept together when he was pretty much sober and she was so drunk she didn’t even remember afterward. And that just made my stomach twist so hard it never recovered. I thought for so long that it was going to be a fake-out, that she was going to wake up in his clothes and assume the worst but then he would explain that nothing had happened and they just didn’t know the passcode to her door. But then the show just doubled down on it and acted like everything was fine. Their ending was also the weakest for me, but the night he took advantage of her was when I jumped ship.
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Bina
April 30, 2025 at 6:45 AM
I can't leave you multiple thumbs up, so I'll just say "THIS! YES!" This is 98% of the reason why I hate this kdrama.
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petrolia
April 30, 2025 at 2:30 PM
Thank you, me too. There were many scenes that showed how they didn't match (in my opinion), but someone taking advantage of you when you're drunk and he's not - that just excludes him as a possible love interest. And a human being. So we're already three! 😉
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35 A
April 29, 2025 at 7:35 AM
Pretty much every ship that had exes get happily back together when they basically dont do a thing to deal with the reasons they separated OR the ship were one of the leads is insufferable (read:annoyingly "cute" or annoyingly dull, extremes are bad) OR they go from a couple of stares to full on 'I love you' ... was it magic?? just a few examples: BOF, Another Oh Hae Young (on second watch a couple of months ago, I was baffled at the amount of toxicity... dunno how it flew off the radar of my younger self), Doona, Melo Movie, Queen of Tears, Divorce Insurance, Potato Lab, pretty much all the reply couples... Now that I think a out it, its been a while since I've stayed in a ship!
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36 imzadi
April 30, 2025 at 12:14 PM
Motel California. Dropped it like a hot potato, instant dislike.
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37 petrolia
April 30, 2025 at 2:38 PM
The second ML & FL of No gain, no love. There are so many reasons why, but the biggest one might be that I wouldn't want to spend my life with a man who sees writing hate speech over me on the internet as an option, no matter later apologies! Plus the many more unforegivable things that made it ludicrous for me to watch them becoming a couple.
And then - probably a no-no for many - the OTP in Hometown Cha-Cha-Cha. I know this is a beloved drama, and there were many things in it I loved. But not FL and ML as a couple. It never made sense to me - what drew them together? They were so different from each other, with so different interests and personalities, it never made any sense to me. Or I just couldn't see it. Plus the OTT aegyo of Shin Min-A just put me off big time, so it might have overshadowed any existing chemistry for me...
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empressgirl
April 30, 2025 at 8:09 PM
Re: The second ML & FL of No gain, no love
THIS!
Unforch, it wasn't one of the fastest ships we tapped out of, cos SHOW strung viewers along until the end. Once we realise there is no redemption arc in sight, oh my cow.
The ire and outrage!
Liberal kimchi slaps for 2nd ML, as we burn the 2nd ship
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petrolia
April 30, 2025 at 10:28 PM
That was a huge letdown, wasn't it? 2 ML and his Mom treated FL and 2FL so badly that as a viewer you were convinced there has to be somebsort of redemption or epiphany with huge apologies following, but that never happened. It went right against your feeling of what's right. I wouldn't want to do with someone like him (and in this case his family), it was disgusting.
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empressgirl
May 1, 2025 at 12:00 AM
I even remember what I said back then: "I may be a K-drama viewer, but I have my morals ok!"
What was the writer smoking? Did they seriously think viewers would roll over, accept the 2nd love-line and give them our blessings and stamp of approval?
Hell.No.
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petrolia
May 1, 2025 at 1:52 AM
Well for me it kinda was the fastest ship to tap out of because I never tapped in, I just couldn't. It's still beyond my imagination to think of an excuse for badmouthing someone on the internet (and even have somebody else to do it, too - wasn't he forcing his secretary to chip in? 🤔). And every time my rage about that first thing cooled down they piled something else on top that fired it right back up. I still cannot understand how this couple could become so famous and even get their spin-off. They didn't overcome anything, and it wasn't even acknowledged (i.e. by a lame apology or something like it). I want my spin-off with a REAL happy ending for the first couple!!! *stampsfootontheground*
Ups, sorry. Rant over. There's nothing to see, just go on with your day...🙃
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Reply1988 - 🍊Mother Bean🍊
April 30, 2025 at 9:55 PM
Thank you for raising the No gain, no love second couple their air time took up most of the last episode when we ALL knew they had a spin off it was soooooooooooo frustrating. Their being together would always be a reminder that the foster sister chose a man who treated her foster sister and brother in law really badly and NEVER made it right. Having been on the receiving end of how he treats people she knows how hurtful he can be. It seems to show that he only apologises if there is something in it for him. That whole relationship and the air time given to it was one of the things that took the shine off what was one of the most enjoyable fun K dramas I have watched.
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petrolia
April 30, 2025 at 10:32 PM
That and the finale of the show. But this shoving-it-in-our-faces was just too much. What were they thinking?! Ooh I still get enraged thinking back to that!
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empressgirl
April 30, 2025 at 11:56 PM
Viewers, we have been defrauded. *Tsk tsk*
Shame on you Show!
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38 K-BearLovesDramas
May 6, 2025 at 11:57 AM
Bro, finally someone is speaking my heart! I couldn't get past Episode 2 of Another Oh Hae Young 🫠 I didn't like that drama. Same thing for Temperature of Love. And it's strange, I like Seo Hyun Jin as an actress.... Oh well.
Doctor Stranger (will rather eat my shoe 😒)
Doctor John (why even try? Just leave the romance to the FL's sister... Or leave it out completely)
The Glory (and the award for the most pointless kiss scene goes to...)
(PIVOT: I just hope everyone treats the romance in Goblin the same way they treat the romance in I Hear Your Voice because the double standards is crazy)
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