I don't watch this so my thoughts are just based on the recap.

The thing I hate about these corporate/chaebol scenarios is how people are forced into them. Sunwoo and his mom are living a perfectly fine life away from all the greed and scheming. Why do they need to be dragged into that world? Why do they have to deal with threats and constant duplicity?

If the chairman wanted to "do right" by his illegitimate son, he could've just left him whatever in his will before his illness got worse and not told anyone about it. Granted, it's probably safe to assume people find a way to learn all about his private business such as his will

It wouldn't be a makjang without fauxcest, but Dong-joo should easily be able to disprove he and Eun-nam are siblings with a DNA test. And while he's at it, test Heo Il-do too.

I wish Tae-yoon and Sun-woo would work together to take over Daesan. Tae-yoon would have to defy his parents, but he's starting to suspect his dad for not calling an ambulance anyway. Chairman Cha promoted Chief Secretary Choi over President Heo, so he already knows his son-in-law can't be trusted. Then his illegitimate son and grandson can become the heirs, and they both can give their beloved Dong-joo hyung a CEO position.

I winced every time Sun-woo called Chairman Cha "harabeoji" because my poor boy will be so shocked when he finds out the chairman is his father. Sadly, he'll be losing his newfound father to dementia. I'll always find it icky that Chairman Cha fathered a child at his age, but maybe Sun-woo's mother really loves him if she agreed to become his legal wife.

The two scenes of Heo Il-do slapping the administrator over and over and Yeom Jang-sun beating Heo Il-do with his name plate over and over, I couldn't take seriously at how they just stood there and not fight back.

I was also pleasantly surprised by Hee-chul finally waking up and letting Eun-nam go. I know Hee-chul's a bad guy, but because of my affection for Kwon Soo-hyun, I can't hate him. Thanks lots for the recap, @mistyisles!

I wondered if Il-do is Dong-joo's father. Clearly, Eun-nam's father isn't. Eun-nam's mother seems the one who killed her husband, she was kinda scary with her sister. It would mean Eun-nam did everything for nothing...

I always knew Dong-joo was a chaebol or somehow linked to them the moment the Song Hyeon name came up.

I was expecting Dong-joo to tell Il-do Jang-sun placed a kill on his daughter's head and he has just saved her. Withholding that information is dumb. There's nothing sweeter than telling your target you just saved his child and at the same time inform him that you're gonna take your revenge on him when he is worth it.

LOL, this drama is so dumb. I laughed so hard at the fauxcest. At least they have stopped trying to kill him. Also the succession thing is even dumber, what does a 20 something year old who is a baker know about running a multi-billion won company. SIGH, but I am still watching.

It's fauxcest time! Ofc we all know that drama will never ACTUALLY go there, but lemme enjoy this massive roadblock to nOTP while it lasts. Btw, is it just me or DJ's reaction to EN's happy “I'm getting a divorce” was surprisingly dull? I get the guy was deeply troubled with his birth secret thingy, but this is supposedly the love of his life, telling to his face she's about to become available once again, and all he can give in return is visual equivalent of “OK, whatever”? There was far more fire between the two an episode ago when he saved her from Yeom's assassination. Must be something in the wind, because HC also decided out of nowhere he doesn't want her anymore, which is super convenient, but good for him, congrats on dodging the bullet!

Back to fauxcest, DJ's – sorry, SH's – child backstory is super complicated and convoluted, you can make a whole bunch of tragically orphaned drama MLs out of this trope fest. Who do you think he'll end up being related to – Ildo, Yeom, EN's legitimate dad, doctor's dad? And how many episodes of pretty mantears and dramatic “we can't be together, waeeeee!” moping while sad OST plays will it take for DJ to do the most logical thing and take DNA test before making any life-changing decisions? Should be at least 1, don't let me down here at least, drama! I also lowkey want him to share his suspicions with EN and see if she's deranged enough to decide she doesn't care. Also, you're divorcing, great – where is my man's apology? You owe him a big one, lady!

Now we're adding THE President of SK to the list of people to take down in finale? Writer-nim doesn't play around lol! Political schemes, damning files from the dusty past, yada-yada... It all wouldn't be so lame is drama actually bothered to show us how DJ and his team of backstory-or-life-free minions plan and achieve anything, but who cares, right? Let us get back to intense staredowns instead! Speaking of – Ildo, are you OK? I know, the answer is always nope, but I keep worrying))) Get some help – maybe drops from constantly red watering eyes? - and succeed at something other than being Yeom's punchbag finally! So he was once a student protester fighting for democracy, then met Yeom as prosecutor and got beaten into being latter's slave for life? What an inspiring bedtime story to tell kid!Taeyun, huh? Poor baby, btw, I feel so sorry for him – and Seonwu, both of them have no business to roll in this mud with other adults here. Idk, I'm starting to lose my sympathy even for DJ now – he's been screaming bloody revenge for so long now without actually doing much (aside of stubbornly NOT dying no matter what), same with trying to get EN back (his last real shot was in Ep3, no?), it just got... old. Hyungsik's performance is still fire, but alas... I am getting that bean at all cost, but dang, make it feel more worth it, show, can ya?

I like this show because of the "who done it" kind of aspect to it. While it seems to have a lot going on, the writer is slowly revealing things like unpeeling an onion. Also there are so many possibilities of what might be that it's fun to theorize.

SDJ is a protagonist that is easy to like. At first it seems that SDJ is just a hardworking loyal Daesan director. He is very calculating, willing to take risks, and quick at thinking on his feet like confronting Yeom after the first murder attempt and tricking Yeom and Gunho into downloading the virus to help him steal the password for the slush fund. From flashbacks we can see that he is intuitive and good at guessing real motives for people especially if they are less than pure (like the rugby bribing). He is not shown to be a conniving type of person but is willing to take an opportunity if it opens up like the idea of going to NY to woe the granddaughter Jennifer Huh to help him climb the ladder faster. He is also willing to do unsavory things like blackmail politicians although we learn later that that guy was corrupt and in on it anyway. He is also very clever and thus far hasn't directly murdered anyone but sent a few baddies to jail or have imprisoned them himself.

I would like to have more flashbacks with more details on how SDJ's simple team of 3 are working together against a much larger group of NSA ex-agents at their disposal. I got a J Edgar Hoover vibe from Yeom. He knows too many of the dark secrets of people (some of which he helped create) which helps him control them like apparently the President. He definitely targets their weaknesses.

Regarding the mystery of SY/SDJ's past. I think we can gather a few bits from people's response to learning his name.
- Secretary Gong- startled and upset with CDH about it but I don't get a sense of relief that the kid SDJ is alive (nor from the preview for 11) so she either wanted him dead in the first place or at least to stay dead to avoid some kind of complication.
- CDH- clearly she and Gong are in on something; likely she's the one who instigated or committed the hit and run of the car where SY, SY's mom and Yeo dad were together. She thought they all died, and she isn't too thrilled he's not dead.
- Administrator- seems to know SDJ's dad so presumably means he also knows SDJ is SY; also says we saw each other a long time ago so was he in on the accident? Was he the person who drove the truck/car? Was he personally surveilling the Cha family at the time and bumped into little SY or saw him survive the accident?
- HID- no real response; he doesn't look lovingly at the old picture of SY so wasn't knowingly the dad and doesn't seem to have connected SDJ and SY together.
- Yeom- he is the only one who definitely knew that SDJ was SY 8 years ago when GH investigated SDJ and showed the pictures. He may have wanted SDJ out of Daesan that time but not enough to try more extreme measures. So maybe he doesn't quite know the full significance of SY to Daesan or it doesn't directly impact him. He also didn't use it as leverage to try to take over Daesan or blackmail anyone as far as we know. Maybe he'll learn something juicy from the Dandelion files he got ahold of.
- Chairman Cha-remembers the kid SY being brought by Yeo dad but otherwise doesn't seem too interested so he must not have known SY's significance either assuming there is one.

So ultimately, was SY someone important like a lost heir or just an incidental collateral damage to CDH's murderous attempt on her first husband and SY's mother? Or maybe before Yeo was able to reveal SY's birth secret he got murdered from love jealousy and now it will all be revealed through the Dandelion files. It would be hysterical if CDH by killing SY's mom/Yeo dad out of jealousy ended up ultimately revealing through those secret files that she isn't the bio daughter of Cha and has no rights to Daesan at all. That might just be justice served.

I like the theory that maybe Yeo was asked by the Chairman's father to find the illegitimate Cha heir (which will turn out to be SY) so he brings SY and his mom around and introduces him to people and seems chummy with his mom. CDH thinks they're having an affair which wounds her pride, and she gets jealous and runs them off the road killing them.

9th episode down (pain to watch on dark web) but will complete the 10th and will be back tomorrow but wanted to put it out - this was my fav episode in terms of drama and face off. It was delicious. More tomorrow.

Still my favorite and only show I’m watching. Each episode keeps getting better and better and thoroughly enjoy all the theories. ☺️

I really, really like Park Hyung Sik in this role. His ability to go from erstwhile company man in love with a beautiful lady to Fixer a la Jason Bourne is effective and fun to watch. I'm just starting to realize what a good actor he is ... his facial expressions go from cunning (when dealing with Jangseon's minions) to concerned (for Eunnam / Ji Seonu / Ji Young Su ) to calculating / contemptuous (when dealing with Yeom Jangseon).

Also, does every single K-drama / rom-com seriously require a KOPIKO PPL!!???!

Looool fauxcest was not on my drama bingo card. All the birth secrets were convoluted. Definitely needed the recap to clarify things. ^^"

I couldn't feel much for Dong Joo as the sad OST was playing and he learned about his birth secret. We never got to see past, happy family moments of him and his father. Now that part seems to be another secret anyway.

Hee Chul's change of heart was sudden. I couldn't tell why he decided to agree to the divorce. Didn't make me like him just for this.