What Comes After Love: Episode 3
by Dramaddictally
We get a little more insight into the breakup backstory this week, as our leads sit in silence together in the present. Also, an important woman from our hero’s past makes an appearance, giving us a total of four characters who are tortured by unhaveable love.
EPISODE 3
We’re only issued one episode this week, which doesn’t give us a ton of new information to grab onto, but this story has enough raw emotion to make up for it. Last week, we ended with Jungo stepping in front of Hong’s car to stop her from leaving. This week, as soon as she stops, he waltzes over to the passenger side and hops in.
They drive around in silence for a long time before Hong tells him there’s nothing left to say. Anything she used to want to ask him, it’s too late. Jungo tries to get past her ice wall by calling her “Beni,” like he used to. But she maintains the distance between them by calling him by his pen name, with a stern “Mr.” tacked onto it. He wants to clear up any misunderstandings that might exist, but Hong shuts the conversation down promptly by telling him she’s about to get married.
After she drops him back at his hotel, without so much as looking in his direction, she pulls out of sight and takes a breather. After five years, she had no idea she wouldn’t be over him yet.
Later, when Hong is with Min-jun, shopping for a wedding dress, she still can’t stop thinking about Jungo and how he said he’s never once forgotten her in five years. She remembers a time when she once tried on a wedding dress with Jungo and tears well in her eyes. The hurt on her face is terrible and I feel every second of the heartbreak in this scene. She’s not excited about marrying Min-jun, and even though the dress she’s trying on is beautiful and fits her perfectly, she doesn’t show it to him and says it didn’t fit.
Through flashbacks we learn more about what led to the breakup in Tokyo. At first, it’s all love and smiles while Hong shows up at each of Jungo’s many part-time jobs to wait for him until he gets off work. She tells us that she didn’t want to be away from him for a second. And she didn’t realize at the time that it wasn’t just a normal way love would make someone behave.
It isn’t until her friend and one-time roomie, PARK JI-HEE (Mi-ram), leaves Japan to return to Seoul that things become more stark. On the days that Jungo is stuck serving tables until late at night, we see Hong sitting home alone waiting for him. In fact, whenever he’s not with her, she’s alone.
One night, she’s out jogging and hurts her ankle. He can’t answer his phone while he’s at the restaurant. And by the time he gets home and she’s already been to the hospital and on crutches, she’s fuming. An argument ensues where she says that work always comes before her. He apologizes for not being there for her that day, but she sees it as a pattern. She insists he quit all this jobs.
He reminds her that he’s working to pay for his studies and she starts asking, “What about me? What am I in your life?” Finally, she lands on the pertinent question: “Why am I always alone?” But Jungo is a little confused. He responds by saying that they go to bed and wake up together every day. “Because I want to be with you. I’m working hard and doing my best,” he says. She’s contemptuous, remarking that she doesn’t know what he’s doing his best at. And then she says, “I’m sick of the fact that the only person I can get mad at is you.”
And now we’ve hit the root of it. I questioned in last week’s weecap if Hong’s loneliness abroad would play into their breakup, and now we’re seeing that it’s the main problem. In voiceover, Hong says, “Desolation makes people anxious. Loneliness weakens love. And, with youth added to that, everything becomes unstable.”
I want to take a second out here to say that while this dynamic is utterly believable, the lead up to this emotional scene was not enough, in my opinion. We’ve just seen that Hong got accepted to grad school, but she told her sister that she got rejected. Why is she not going to university? And what happened to the job she had at the ramen shop? Both of those things would get her out meeting new people. And let’s not forget that she speaks the local language perfectly.
We still don’t know what pieces of the story are missing, but by not putting those pieces up front, it takes the bang out of the argument they have. I find it hard to empathize with Hong (even though I’ve lived a version of her story myself) because she has ways to integrate available to her. I can think of reasons why she may not, in spite of that fact, or why it would be hard anyway, but we haven’t seen them. And without some explanation, she sounds unreasonable in this scene (although, from experience, I know she’s probably not).
The other big thing that happens this week is that we meet Jungo’s ex-girlfriend, KOBAYASHI KANNA (Nakamura Anne), whom he dated prior to Hong. We see that after Hong left Tokyo, Kanna ran into him heartbroken at a bar. She says she feels bad because he was never that hurt when she broke up with him. In the end, she asks, if he’s in so much pain, does he want to get back together?
Cut to the present and we see Kanna in Seoul meeting up with Jungo. She says she’s there for work and thought she’d surprise him and hang out for a few days. But later, at dinner, she reveals that she’s really there to see him. She’s been waiting five years for him to love her again, she says. And I’m confused about what exactly that means. Did he turn her down that day about getting back together? Or are they a couple right now and he just doesn’t show any love to her?
After Kanna says that bit about waiting for him to love her again, Jungo’s eyes go red and he looks away. She guesses he must have run into Hong. And after they part ways and he goes back to his hotel room to think about Hong and be sad, Kanna shows up at his door and exclaims, “Let’s get married.” She’s hugging him and he’s looking like he’s not sure what to do.
That’s how the episode ends, but I want to note that we also get a little insight into Min-jun’s character this week. We see in flashback that when Hong returned from Tokyo (with nothing because she left in such a rush), Min-jun was at the airport with Ji-hee waiting for her. He’s a doctor and was taking care of Hong’s father in the hospital just then. As the weeks go by, Hong is working hard to help out her dad’s publishing company, and Min-jun is working hard to take care of her.
There’s a moment after the wedding dress shop, where Hong and Min-jun are out having snacks and drinks and he says that he missed her while she was in Japan, and that’s why he finally decided to go after her. She begins to speak, and he cuts her off when the food arrives. But then he says that her feelings might change, and she might never need to say whatever she was about to say. And so, the point is, he knows she doesn’t feel the same way about him that he does for her.
Oof. Well, it’s doing a good job of making my heart hurt. Now I feel for all four characters instead of just the two. Min-jun and Kanna are in tough positions also, playing the back up and the safe bet, who are both clearly in love. They know that their love interests have their hearts elsewhere — and yet they continue to stick around and love them anyway. It’s got to be a kind of constant heartbreak. But I love that the drama is letting us see from their perspectives and not treating the main leads as the only ones we’re supposed to feel for.
My only real qualm is that I wish we had two episodes to dig into. I care about the characters and the story, but the little taste of what happened in Tokyo was not enough for me. I guess I’ll just sulk and be sad as I wait for next weekend.
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1 Kurama
October 7, 2024 at 11:27 AM
It looks like Hong left on a whim letting things unresolved. Because of her father's illness she didn't come back and Jungo was waiting for her comeback. It's why they both had something to tell but never could?
It's hard to judge their relationship but Hong's loneliness is hard to understand because the ramen shop's employees were nice with her, wasn't the boss who came to the hospital? She seemed curious, full of energy, so I don't understand how she ended up staying home alone.
Kanna's words about forgettin the past were pretty funny when she's just doing the same thing.
I was sad for Min-jun, it was hard to see your future wife so unmotivated for her wedding.
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RenOIshi
October 9, 2024 at 9:05 PM
Looks like Jungo never looked for her too after she left. All this angst for such a small time frame romance seems a bit unreasonable to me. And I don't think she was planning on going back to Japan once she left. I think her decision to leave fr good was final and had nothing to do with her dad's health.
I understand her loneliness though. Her bestie had left too.
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2 Blue (@mayhemf)
October 7, 2024 at 11:41 AM
I can understand her loneliness in a foreign land but she also didn’t seem to have her own life. While he was doing what he had to do or wanted to do and had a clear idea of wanting to write.
Looks like she left abruptly without a proper break up. At this point the show might just end with these two cutting ties but more amicably so they can move on.
I feel bad for Min Jun. poor chap.
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jillian
October 8, 2024 at 5:36 PM
I feel bad for MinJun too. He seems to really love her despite knowing she is still hung up on her ex.
I don't mind if they end up cutting ties. It would feel realistic due to their situation.
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RenOIshi
October 9, 2024 at 9:07 PM
I thought about it and I don't feel bad for Min Jun. He knows she is not into him yet he pursued her. She is pity marrying him at this point and I am sure he is aware. Life is too short to be stuck in a one sided love.
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3 panshel
October 7, 2024 at 11:42 AM
Maybe I'm a cynic, but we were watching their honeymoon phase last week. Of course they're so in love and can't stand being apart from each other, but it doesn't last. Even if a misunderstanding had caused their breakup and they were still together today, it's unrealistic for them to stay that happy through their entire relationship. The show is setting them up to be "the one that got away," but to root for them to get back together, I would have to be rooting for her to cheat on her fiancé, and I hate cheating.
What did happen to Hong's job at the ramen shop? It doesn't seem like her family sends her money since her mom is against her living in Japan, so why can't she go to grad school? Jungo argued that they go to bed every night together and wake up every morning together, but he doesn't even get home until 4 in the morning. I loved seeing Jungo's dad pick Hong up at the hospital.
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4 LillyBee
October 7, 2024 at 11:58 AM
I was wondering why everyone was being emo. I still don't feel connected to the story/characters, don't really know much about these people, but I do see why they would break up. I'm guessing it was a gradual process of being let-down with maybe a last straw at the end. The loneliness issue also shows the importance of having community and not relying on one person. Though I am glad boyfriend's dad picked her up.
I usually hate when exes show up (especially the "let's get back together" kind), and this one is no different. Why are you here...
And there's too much going on with this love square. Then again, it's a melo. I'll still keep watching I guess. Six episodes shouldn't be too bad.
Also, don't go through with that marriage.
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LillyBee
October 7, 2024 at 12:08 PM
I forgot to mention thanks for the recaps. And for making a space to discuss episodes.
Also, I was surprised that she'd been planning on marrying Jungo too. That scene caught me off-guard. Ya'll were going to get married!?! How... why. How long were ya'll dating??
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5 kiara
October 7, 2024 at 1:36 PM
These two broke up before I even cared about their relationship, so waiting for one episode per week makes it harder to get into it. At this point, I just want to roast the heck out of them.
The more I get to know Hong, the less I relate to her as a student in a foreign country. Why did she go to Japan in the first place? To find a boyfriend to babysit her or to be more independent and further her education? Why does love have to come first at this point in her life? Me me me me me, as she told him to quit his job.
Jungo doesn't express his feelings much. What does she love about him? His looks, kindness? What? She seems to be 100% in, and he's around maybe way less.
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Ahjummaaa
October 10, 2024 at 10:04 AM
I realized that the female lead is one of those very human ones that makes mistakes, and not the heroine type. The writers show her going to Japan to run away from her troubles and then meets a good guy but messes it up with her loneliness and neediness. I guess this is a story of redemption for the foolish mistakes we make in our youth.
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6 Nessa (Bebe) 🌹
October 7, 2024 at 1:44 PM
I’m not currently watching the drama— just going with your recaps, @dramaddictally thank you 😘— so there may be a few nuances that I am missing due to this, but here are my thoughts:
1. Hong went to Japan on a low note, carrying the disapproval of family, that in itself has already got to sting and make Hong feel lonely and closed off to begin with. She then meets someone and they go through a whirlwind honeymoon phase but never accounted for what it would be like when they settle back into reality, so when it happens, things begin to come to a head, which is realistic. My inquiry is to ask if Hong ever had any feeling of self love and self worth (esteem) to begin with regardless if any of the things with Jungo ever happened? As the saying goes, “Others can’t love you if you don’t love yourself first”. It seems like Hong hasn’t shown up for herself ever since she landed in Japan and has been relying on others (Jungo) to show up for her, and when he fails to do so, well…
2. I do— but don’t— feel sorry for the 2nd leads. They’re knowingly walking into a relationship wherein they are aware the other person’s heart isn’t fully theirs. If we get any resentment from the 2nd leads down the road because of this, I think imma roll my eyes quite hard.
Even with just the recaps, I still quite captured by the mood of this show, so I’m going to keep with it, and then maybe watch it all in one go when all of its episodes are released
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Nessa (Bebe) 🌹
October 9, 2024 at 10:13 PM
I will add this:
There’s a Chinese saying 刻骨銘心 ( Kè gǔ míng xīn), which literally means “unforgettable”, but the nuances of this idiom goes deeper than that and is meant to exude more of the feeling of something that’s essentially imprinted in the soul, and I HOPE that— despite their whirlwind romance being short-lived— that THIS is what the writers are trying to tell us about their relationship— that it’s imprinted into them— and that by the drama’s end, it doesn’t become one of those things that are dumbed down to being “I couldn’t forget for the last 5 years because it felt unfinished”. If we’re being told and SHOWN that it’s been 5 years and they still cannot forget and are still so impacted and influenced by each other’s presence, then I want it to mean something— something deeper—other than “unfinished business”
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7 tabong
October 7, 2024 at 1:45 PM
Thank you for the recap Dramaddictally!
Uhm...
This episode made me dislike every single character. The four of them feel like a different version if the same.
1. Why is Beni planning to marry her friend? Why is she repeating her parents story? She wants her friend to tell their kids "women can't forget their first love", and then give them the home address of her first love? Just like her parents did with her? Like, why is she doing this to him?
2. And why is he doing this to himself? Why would he give her the permission to cheat on him as long as she "goes back" to him or wtv? Yeah, feelings change, but that doesn't mean they'll change in your favor dumb dumb. She won't go back to you, because she was never with you.
I know that you freaking know that.
So why hurt yourself and why help her keep hurting herself too?
3. Why would you ask for an engaged woman's home address or phone number? After doing nothing for five years? After meeting her a la serendipity? After she told you she had nothing to say to you?
4. And why woman? Why? Like... Why? Your scenes are the most painful to watch. Please, stop.
Sigh. Tbh, this could work if this was a character-driven story that tries to show the complexity of human relationships and how imperfect or broken we all are, yada yada yada. But I barely know this people. And their relationships feel shallow as hell. And five years have past, but they're somehow worse than when they were young dumb broke college kids. They're so self-centered and dramatic. No one is considering the other person's feelings. They're all trying to get this "idea" of love—or wtv they think they're feeling—, and trying to force the other person to play with them.
Do they know each other? Do they even know what love is?
We saw how that after the three months of happiness thanks to the love hormones the main couple was completely out of sync.
I felt like Hong was clinging to Yun Oh because that's what was keeping her afloat in a time where she felt lost.
Hong didn't make friends or any other meaningful relationship outside of him. She gave up on continuing her studies, and it seems like she quit her job? I think he was working to take care of them both.
So, to me it felt like she what she was demanding from him wasn't just her "boyfriend" to be more attentive or wtv, but it was more of her desperation to have someone/something that would take her away of herself. She didn't want to face what she was feeling. She didn't know what to do with it. And I feel like she never figured that out, because even five years later she looks like she's drowning. And that's why she still has conflicted feelings about Yun Oh. Because she has those memories of their initial phase when she felt "okay" as long as she was with him. But it really isn't about him and their love or wtv.
And for Yun Oh... Tbh, my respect to this man because a young and broke college kid who is sincere about his...
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tabong
October 7, 2024 at 1:50 PM
And for Yun Oh... Tbh, my respect to this man because a young and broke college kid who is sincere about his career ends up having to feed two mouths out of nowhere, and he barely gets a break or has time for himself, all in the timeframe of a few months... It's like someone just left a child on his doorstep out of nowhere tbh. Like, it's no joke. I can't imagine that in a million years. So my respects to this guy for not resenting her (when she said "why don't you quit your jobs" la vi chiquita...). But even if he didn't, he did seem to have lost something. He was so cold. He didn't even asked how she got hurt! And I feel like that's what's bothering him. Guilt.
At least, that's how I decided to think of this episode because otherwise nothing makes sense to me. And still... You would think that after five years they would understand and learn and grow from that experience, but here they are. Making even weirder choices than before.
For the other two... LOL. I had to create this alternative story for the leads out of crumbs. I don't have a clue what's going with the other two. We know NOTHING about them.
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Elinor, Team Glasses team co-captain
October 7, 2024 at 3:57 PM
*wild applause*
Thank you for summing up What Comes After All Four Leads Get Dropped On Their Heads in a way that makes far more sense than anything in the show itself does. I have a tiny bit of sympathy for
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tabong
October 8, 2024 at 11:14 AM
😂😂
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Mrs Buckwheat
October 7, 2024 at 4:08 PM
Well said :)
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Blue (@mayhemf)
October 8, 2024 at 4:58 AM
Yeah his reaction to seeing her at home with a cast was telling. Someone who loves you will worry and panic and ask about it first. But he was more worried about the aftermath of having to deal with her anger.
He is definitely not that into her. So not sure what he is regretting for 5 years??
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tabong
October 8, 2024 at 11:17 AM
I was surprised by his reaction. He looked so done even before she started anything.
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Blue (@mayhemf)
October 8, 2024 at 11:27 AM
When someone you love doesn’t pick up your calls it means either you have abused the phone call (by calling for unimportant things or by calling constantly) or they don’t love you anymore.
I do think he loved her but he also seemed overwhelmed with life in general. He was working, trying to make ends meet, and trying to date and take care of her emotional needs. Sometimes relationships don’t work because it came at the wrong time of your life and your priorities were different.
kiara
October 8, 2024 at 9:22 AM
I wonder if he began to feel the pressure of supporting two people on a student's salary. They don't have money for hospital bills. He's probably thinking, what the heck was she doing running in the middle of the night? It's also possible he was on the rebound when he met her. She seems much more invested in this relationship, and already thinking about her wedding, while he is more focused on the practical steps needed to get from A to B.
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tabong
October 8, 2024 at 11:30 AM
Do we know anything about him and his ex ex? For how long they were together, and if that was right before he met Beni?
Because your rebound theory it's interesting. Dude maybe just wanted to have fun.
They did move in together like a month into the relationship, tho... Tbh I have no clue what they were thinking.
She was definitely more clingy and excited, but I'm not sure it was because she was invested or because she was scared of being alone. I don't blame him for not thinking of weddings after knowing her for a month or two, and when he can barely afford to pay his studies.
The more I think about it these two feel so incompatible...
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kiara
October 8, 2024 at 2:27 PM
There was not much else other than his dad referring to Kanna as the rude girl who dumped him. He quickly tried to get rid of him so they wouldn't talk about it. When Hong asked him about it, he said Kanna dumped him because she was frustrated that he wouldn't say anything from time to time.
IIRC, he said before that he is better at writing his thoughts down than talking about it. I aree @vladdles, she needs to read the book.
kiara
October 8, 2024 at 2:28 PM
*agree*
tabong
October 8, 2024 at 2:53 PM
Oh, right! He said that and I thought we were similar, without knowing it takes him five years to do that (in a while book format).
I thought he meant a letter or text in a few days/weeks. LMAO
I want her to read the book too, because I can't figure this guy out. And I want all the details of the past.
kiara
October 8, 2024 at 4:40 PM
@enriquequierecagar, tabong.
Could it be a cultural thing, being polite to a fault? I kept thinking about SHOGUN and how James Clavell describes the male characters in his book. It's hard to figure them out because they have three hearts: one for the world to see, one for their close friends and family, and the other hidden deep where no one can find.
When they were in Kyoto to visit her dad's ex, she offered to have them stay the night at her house after preparing them a meal with local dishes. Hong excitedly accepted her offer before Jungo could say anything. I think he was about to decline her offer. He later told her that Ms. Shizuko was just being polite. Come to think of it, it was awkward to visit her in the first place without calling and then getting a free meal and lodging. We don't know her circumstances or whether it was okay with her. It felt like she was put on the spot,
I've visited my Korean friends' homes, where the parents would insist that I stay if it was late at night. They are very generous with food and it makes them happy to see me eat a lot. They often send me home with leftovers. I wonder if it's the same for Hong. It would be rude to turn her down.
I might be overanalyzing, but I would appreciate seeing the unique challenges of a cross-cultural relationship portrayed in romance, rather than the typical misunderstandings.
tabong
October 8, 2024 at 11:00 PM
Kiara, I would also like that.
I actually think that it would be interesting if they go with some kind of "all the reasons why we felt wrong together" story. Because I feel like there's a lot to work with: cultural differences, class, life goals...
But I think we're being led to a different direction.
Beni feels resentment, and I think that resentment comes from moments like the ones we saw last week. So I'm expecting them to go deeper in that direction. aka. Hong's loneliness mixed with Jungo's exhaustion.
And in the present there's too much going on with Kanna and Min Jung added to the mix...
Wait! you know what? It would be fun if
Yun Oh's version (the book), felt like a totally different story because he did interpret their situation using a pair of cultural lenses, that didn't match with Beni's. That would be fun.
I don't remember well, but in the "Before" movie trilogy there was something similar, with the guy writing a book about their first meeting and then the FL being like "that's not what happened. At all".
And I don't remember details about the cross-cultural aspect of their romance, but I always liked how they would joke about it.
Vladdles
October 8, 2024 at 10:06 AM
She needs to read the book and as for the other two sadly I think they are, and for effect I'm being a bit harsh now, pretty much warm props.....
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Neolttwigi
October 9, 2024 at 3:00 PM
For a brief moment ( the running/the drunk guys) I thought she was going to be s.lly assaulted. That would have made sense out of the depth of emotions/ abandonement she felt, guilt he felt...but no.
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8 geminirat
October 7, 2024 at 2:36 PM
Thank you for the recap, @dramaddictally! I, too, would like at least 2 episodes each week, so I can process what's happening more. I understand that Hong became lonely in Japan, specially when her friend went back home and she had to move in with Jungo. He was busy with school and work and being left alone at home with nothing to do broke her. There are many "she could have" answers to it, but she left her home because she didn't like the way her mother dictates what to do in her life. Now that she's free of her mom, I think she felt radar-less because she relied on Jungo to be there for her - if not all the time, probably most of the time.
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9 Mrs Buckwheat
October 7, 2024 at 3:54 PM
Thank you dramaddictally for your excellent recap.
One episode is not enough :)
I find Hong's actions and behaviour unreasonable and juvenile.
It's hard to believe a character who was so insistent about living her own life and had to leave the country to do so, then basically relies on another person to live her life through. It's kind of contradictory.
The show also did itself a disservice -" We still don’t know what pieces of the story are missing, but by not putting those pieces up front, it takes the bang out of the argument they have. I find it hard to empathize with Hong"
I know it's a melodrama but I really wish we didn't have the female ex lurking around and I found it totally ridiculous/unbelievable that after so long and out of the blue she asks him to marry her. This just seems like an easy pathway/lazy writing to add drama into the story.
I still really enjoy the show though because of the two lead actors who are doing a great job.
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10 Kairoskat 💐
October 7, 2024 at 4:15 PM
In the previous recap I shared their dating timeline: they dated for roughly 6 months, starting sometime April 2019 to early Oct 2019 (link:https://dramabeans.com/2024/10/what-comes-after-love-episodes-1-2/#comment-4221980).
Ep 3 added more info to the dating timeline. Hong got injured in June 2019. She Started to feel lonely earlier than that. Doing the math...they were only happy together for roughly a month to two 🫠.
Several issues I have with this adaptation as of ep 3:
1. The dating timeline doesn't match the angst they are showing. They were happy for only around 2 months-ish.
2. They are in 2019, not 1990s like in the book. Technology is available for communication to happen with other people, Hong chose to limit herself to Jungo.
3. Drama started with Hong being all independent, ready to face the world. What happened to that Hong? Did she stop working and just stayed at home? What happened to her fun colleagues, no group chat with them? She went to school but didn't make any friends at all?
I have read some translations of both books (hong and jungo version), the book feels different. Not sure if they will include Hong's whole argument shout/speech because it's 😮 and even I felt for Jungo. Anyways, I wished they stuck to the years in the book. In the book, they dated around 1997-98. I haven't read the full book, but I feel that's a richer setting because 1997-98 was in the midst of Asian Financial Crisis. On top of that, technology back then was not as it is now, only few have mobile phones and not many have emails yet, that would make their separation and total loss of contact make more sense. Changing it to newer times changes that, technology is more advanced and they both can google each other with ease, if they wanted to 😂.
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Ahjummaaa
October 7, 2024 at 9:20 PM
Based on my real world experience with the opposite gender, it is quite a stretch to believe that an attractive, talented, and decent man would be hung up on a relationship lasting only a few months that occurred half a decade ago. *shakes head* this would be so rare and I'm not completely convinced the FL is "special" enough to warrant this kind of devotion. Ouch this sounds terrible to say. But I've just seen the majority of guys move on really fast to the next one especially if they're a catch.
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11 Beverly
October 7, 2024 at 5:40 PM
I do want to know more about Hong's time in Korea before the breaking point. But I can see why she was so angry, even though what she said was unfair. She was made to feel unsafe somewhere she'd felt safe, that comes with a lot of emotions anger being one of them. Not only was he not able or willing to pick up the phone or call back, it probably really hit home how alone she was. In Korea she'd have both parents, a sister, and her bestie as other support. And when Jungo came home it might of done a lot to just be concerned and apologetic that she had to go through that alone.
Also, she did seem to pick Japan because she was running away from something and not towards something, which probably played in to her discontent too. And while her mom is not my favorite she might of had a point when she pointed out.....something along the lines of how she never commits completely. Just like Jungo's ex new that he wouldn't be the one to take the initiative in fixing or confronting their problems.
To me it definitely feels like right person but wrong time. Jungo knows his and obviously wants that to take precedence, which makes sense at this stage. Hong seems a little lost and is putting too much weight on he and the relationship because she doesn't know her next steps, she may of realized that Japan isn't where she should be right then.
I actually kind of appreciate Min Jun stopping her from saying anything right then. She was drunk and had just seen her first love. In real life that could be a recipe for a very bad decision and not fated love, lol.
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12 Vladdles
October 7, 2024 at 5:42 PM
@dramaddictally thanks as always for your insightful recap! Reading through the posts here I appreciate each and everyone's viewpoints however I am just happy to go with the flow with this one without being too analytical just yet. Being a short series of only six episodes I am liking the slow reveals due to the non-linear storytelling and trust that by show's ending it will feel complete.
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13 Ahjummaaa
October 7, 2024 at 9:13 PM
I almost kind of rather enjoyed this episode more than the previous one. But agree with the critique and areas that can be improved upon. Maybe 6 episodes is just not enough time for viewers to really care about two characters. Ajumma still hanging in there with the drama, it's bittersweet to be reminded of one's own failures in cross-cultural relationship but also cathartic.
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Ahjummaaa
October 7, 2024 at 9:14 PM
I think I like the doctor second lead and friend more than the main characters. The former seem more real.
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14 Fjdjkf
October 8, 2024 at 12:44 AM
Thanks for recap!
In such dramas second main leads confusing me. Both Kanna and Min-jun seems decent people, smart, pretty, don't have evil personalities. Why do they run after those who don't need them? Why are they okay with their beloving ones not loving them? Where are their dignity?
Maybe because I didn't love so hard, it's hard to understand. I think, maybe, one year a maximum you can chase someone who doesn't love you. If 5 years passes and they're still not looking at you, it's time to move on.
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15 jillian
October 8, 2024 at 12:24 PM
I can't blame Hong for feeling lonely and desolate in a foreign country. Also I understand Jungo's striving to earn money for his education and gain experience for his future literary works. They were both self consumed with their own issues that they failed to communicate and work out their issues. I do not think only one party was at fault at the breakdown of their relationship. So I think the reason they are so both hung up about it is because they lack closure. There are the unevitable what-ifs but 5 years is too long of a time for them to be hung up on their ex. MinJun seems to be a very decent guy whim ahong is set to marry. As for Kanna, i do not have high opinion of her. She knows that Jungo still loves his ex but she is waiting in the wings for 5 years for him to like her again.
I am bummed that we only get one episode this week.
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16 Enjoy the Day
October 9, 2024 at 2:08 PM
Reading everyone's comments are always fun.
I thought I was going to do laundry while I watched this show, so I was surprised at how much emotions I got from these first episodes. I think both Yuno and Beni have different views of love and we are seeing different perspectives of the same relationship.
Beni is young and falls into things but matures into Hong who is cold and lifeless.
Yuno knows what he wants to be and accomplishes being a writer, but the future he planned with Beni didn't work out.
They are both so miserable and changed in present day that the flashback scenes are painful to watch, in a good way. I don't think this show is for everyone, but 6 episodes works well for a melodrama. Great acting, direction, music and plot. Lee Se-Young and Kentaro Sakaguchi are terrific. I will cry with them, whether they reunite or part ways in the end.
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17 Ahjummaaa
October 10, 2024 at 10:17 AM
Reading everyone's thoughtful comments is making me realize that this drama is about redemption and second chances. I think people who've been in the FL's shoes or knows someone that was, can identify and relate to her situation. You know, a friend who suddenly runs off to another country and then quietly comes back again. But maybe you didn't know what happened and why. As bystanders we only see the gossip-worthy highlights but not the reasons for their seemingly erratic and dramatic behavior. So dramas like these that show a fallible FL who fails to create a found family and is needy and unreasonable makes her an unusual and more realistic FL compared to most other drama heroines who are strong and thrive in all circumstances. So on an intellectual level I can connect to the drama because I've also been an immature FL in my youth in my own life and have made mistakes in relationships that I regret. But as a viewer I wish the script was better written so that I can care about the leads more and enjoy the drama more. The story is good but the script leaves a lot to be desired.
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Ahjummaaa
October 10, 2024 at 11:26 AM
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Ahjummaaa
October 10, 2024 at 11:34 AM
But please take above with grain of salt. Marriages with two whole people are hard too and can also fail. Relationships are just hard and bring out the best and worst in people.
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Lalla32
October 12, 2024 at 2:45 PM
I agree with you. One thing that probably bothers me a bit is that the two leads look older than the age of the characters. They seem more mature. But I think this story is about two immature people who failed and not just at their relationship. Especially when it comes to Hong. She was too young... she wanted indipendence but felt too lonely. She wanted to be strong but was too scared. She run away once from her family, then run away again. Maybe she is still stuck there... it's like a knot in the line of her life. She needs to face it. We actually have no idea if she feels happy in the present or not. I feel for her. She has flaws and I like that.
Jungo, him I can't understand quite well. Maybe he really needed to talk more, explain himself more. Surely he needed to answer his phone or maybe send a message to say he would be late!
I'm curious to see what the resolution will be and what he has to say about what he did wrong. I need to see how the drama will end to really be able to judge it.
At the moment I'm absolutely loving the OST! Beautiful <3
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Ahjummaaa
October 23, 2024 at 8:21 PM
well said, well said!
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