Fiery Priest has fun banter between leads!

Nicely done @lotus with the plug 🤗

Fake relationships are fun! But if someoneis faking it without telling the other, like if it's a bet, and they regret it, it's a bit much anxiety for me. I like that they make a deal, and then screw up that deal by falling hard for each other.

Yes, I very often root for SL (except when he or she reacts in noble idiocy mode).

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I was ready to say I love all the tropes, but you're right - this is the one I abhor and detest 😂👍

Maybe I just haven't seen any noble idiocy moments that hated because I don't mind that trope. I think I'm the only one.

Noble idiocy, the time slip:
Not being together for stupid, stupid reasons. I always hate the timeslip, and I especially hate the Noble abscense if there is not a very good reasons, and if there is, I want that person to be honest: "They threaten to kill YOU if they find out I still like you. I cannot survive it they do that." Not just saying horrible, hurtful things.
And to the tropes that leave them away from each otherwhen they should be together comes "the woman suddenly being super coy and making it her task to make the ML think they are going to have sex and then ha ha not". My not-favourite example is Her Private Life.

bickering is fun if it's lighthearted and funny but often in real life it's not. I know a pair of old friends that were really good at the back and forth teasing each other. It was like a comedy show watching them. They finally ended up dating in their 30's but the ML suddenly passed away from a health condition. I am so sad for the FL beyond words.

Bickering can be okay in dramas. But not too much.

there's long running jokes and bickering between the leads in Fiery Priest which was fun

Childhood connection seems like a kdrama staple. I must admit it sometimes feels forced, and not organic enough.

I agree but is it the cross dressing or is it the falling in love with an FL who you think is the opposite sex and the anguish for the ML?

Of course it's a minority, but still: I know of at least a couple of trans people who have been in discussions with antitrans-people who said stuff like: "But at least you don't try to dress up as a man" - and truly, she didn't, not these last few years, but all the years from she was born and til she was thirty-something, she did.
What I'm saying is that some people that one would just assume was a cis person is actually a transperson. We just only notice those who have obvious signs like a sharp jaw etc.
I nearly forgot; my sister had a friend back in the seventies when hair beyond the ears was the norm for boys, too.
I remember she told me she would bring home [girl's name] after school, and I was surprised to see it was a boy? So I said to my sister "I thought you said it was a girl?"
But it was. Except for dresses, all the clothes boys and girls could wear as a normal thing overlapped at that time (us four siblings at home inherited each other's clothes too, no problem), and this girl just looked exactly like a boy, and had the demeanor of a boy, too.
Today I wonder of course how she felt inside, if she was hurt that she was mistaken for at boy all the time, or if she (I'm saying "she" cause that's how I knew her) secretly felt confirmed in her real identity, when someone who had even been told she had a girl's name still wondered why a boy would have that name (It was before puberty, so it happened easylier).
Oh, I have experienced later again that a child was called "he" even if the speaker was repeatedly corrected "It's a girl!".
That must have been like ... 15 years ago or something. They needed someone from the audience in a performance and picked up this lanky tween child with shoulder-long hair, and repeatedly said "THis Young Man ..." ("Girl", said the child's family and friends).
Now in this case, this troubled child that always was kind of moody and so to speak, didn't seem to feel at home in her own skin, came out as a transboy like ... 7 years ago. And for each step in that direction, they seemed to be more at ease, just by looking at his face, you could feel that he felt better now than ever. Yes, I know his parents, and they are not extreme either in upholding or supressing gender roles - they just happened to beget this child who is now a young man.
What I'm saying is that even if K-dramas are fairy tale stories where unlikely things are taken to extreme, gender-ambiguous youths like Eun Chan do exist, and they are not rarer than that I by accident have met a few. Two that I know of, but idk, maybe I have met twenty, that I just didn't get to know enough to know the ambiguity?

slowly does it! I actually lose interest if they get together too soon.

have you seen Smile You? :)

Oh, that's a good one! It was so long ago, but I always think of Cruel Love with Lee Yo-won and Kwon Sang-woo.

I love this genre when done well and not too icky (eg student-teacher, cheating)

I'm not sure but I think When My Love Blooms was sort of in this genre.

Yummm...'Secret Love'...one of my top 5.
Another forbidden relationship was in "Kill Me Heal Me" when the psychiatrist began to fall for Shin Se Ge, the bad boy of the 8 multiple personalities that she was supposed to "kill' in order to heal the ML. Of course all of them were versions of Ji Sung, so we loved them all, but Shin Se Ge was hypnotizing. I kept wondering who would finally win out...the bad boy or the good hearted but fractured CEO, hiding his illness from a family of vipers.

Definitely 'Forbidden Love'!

I am going to be very specific here -- especially faux-incest / student-teacher love - simply cos it makes so much sense but is oh-so-angst-ridden.

Faux-cest:
Autumn in My Heart (the OG blueprint) - brought up as siblings, found out later birth swop mistake
That Winter, the Wind Blows -- con-man posed as fake brother then falls in love
Under the Same Roof - adopted sister / love triangle - one brother is secretly in love with her, the other brother she is secretly in love with
Tree of Heaven - step-brother (no blood relations)
9 Times: Time Travel - this one by a stroke of (very bad) luck, his lover came back as his niece in an alt-timeline

Teacher-student:
The mother of them all: Majo No Jouken (the witch's requirement) -- iconic drama, but morally reprehensible (teacher had sex with minor -- and in the school library no less)
The good ones: Doctors / Melancholia

Another beloved sub-set trope (not mentioned so far):
childhood connection -- forged by shared trauma

examples:
I Hear Your Voice -- one child is sole witness of the murder of the father of the other child; grew up to be his legal defender, then her own mother got murdered by the same murderer.

Rain or Shine: both were survivors of a building collapse disaster (one remembers, the other doesn't)

good examples please recommend - always welcome them!

I want more dramas like "When my love blooms"!!! It was good, but I want more.

Star-crossed lovers/Forbidden Love. I'll take both happy and tragic endings.
"Jamung Go" - tragic.
"The Princess's Man" - happy.

haha --> "Cartoonishly Evil slap happy Chaebol mother in law" have I got the drama for you: The Promise. It has the most gloriously evil and gorgeous and well-dressed mother in law I have ever seen! :)

surprisingly, Fiery Priest had the enemies to friends and bickering trope. Plus the rare aspect of falling for a priest lol

Found family is one of my faves too!!

I also love the "she fell first, he fell harder" trope. Or the "they fell at the same time and equally hard" one. 😂

I don't like it when he falls first, and he also falls hard. So hard he just fells flat.

I also enjoy when two people work together to date someone else, but in the process they fall in love 🤩

That briefly happened in My Holo Love, and also in At a distance, spring is green, Scripting your destiny, Angel Last Mission...

oh you might enjoy "Hotaru no Hikari" one of my favorite J dramas about forced cohabitation. indeed the ML meets the FL at her "worst", being a slob at home. it's glorious!

I still have a soft spot and place in my heart for well done tsundere tropes. it's a classic for a reason.

Tsunderes and jerks - our leads would be so boring without these traits. I also enjoy it when heroines bring them almighty highnesses low.

Grumpy sunshine FTW

Why do you call it "reverse raming of the shrew?"

And it's built right into the title in Taming of the Heir (Invincible Lee Pyung Kang)

then maybe Kings 2 Heart would count too?

Anyone who's been bedridden long enough (you wouldn't believe how narrow this time frame actually is!) loses most, if not all their muscle strength and requires a lot of rehabilitation physiotherapy to be able to do more than slightly twitching/lifting a finger once again. Speaking from experience here. Such sequence in KILL BILL, while being totally unrealistic in terms of her having a complete recovery overnight, highlighted how gradual this process is pretty accurately - staring with barely there toe twitch.

I hate that first one 🙈🙈🙈

I have a love-hate with the first one. I love the part where the ML just freaks out. But not the part where the ML interrupts the blind date. I did appreciate the My Name is Kim Samsoon blind date since it was a running gag with the same blind date guy.

Discovery of Love had a fun and embarrassing blind date scene - she's on a blind date, her ex is coincidentally at the next table overhearing all her fake stories. The cringe when she discovers his presence!

The second one is so squeeworthy.

1) Blind date: funniest recent one I saw - in My Sweet Mobster with a priceless blind date cameo by Lee Joon
2) Every show featuring Rowoon lol

there's some funny bickering throughout Fiery Priest, plus an additional "forbidden love" trope of finding a priest attractive lolol

They say that guys like to be back hugged too haha

I always worry they’re going to make the huggee burn themselves.

I can only remember the guy doing the back hugging. And for some reason I only remember Lee Jong Suk dramas. 😅

He always have cute kitchen scenes with his costars: Pinocchio, W...

Wait! in Oh My Ghostess the FL kept hugging him! And they're chefs! The hugs weren't all that innocent tho. 😂

My Love from the Star is full of back hugs - BUT vacuum cleaning back hugs, not kitchen sorry!

This is such a fetish for the FL she even sneakily wrote it into her script and made our alien Manager Doo role-play it with her on pretext of a script read

I also like the non-romantic trope where the leads work together developing trust and understanding facing difficulties together. And then at the end you might not even get a kiss, maybe just a hug or a promise to meet up again. It's full of romantic tension throughout. I love that stuff! Examples: Dark Hole, 365: Repeat the Year, Fiery Priest. Please recommend dramas where the leads have a lot of chemistry but never hook up on screen :D