The Midnight Romance in Hagwon: Episodes 13-14
by Dramaddictally
The secret office romance is revealed in our penultimate week, leaving our leads with no one to count on but themselves. As the walls come crashing down around them, they find strength in each other and begin to grow — realizing that even teachers sometimes need to learn a few lessons.
EPISODES 13-14
We slide back into our story with Hye-jin, the Gray Witch, and Seung-hee making power plays around a table. Last time, it seemed like Hye-jin had the upper hand when she forked over all her teaching materials and said she didn’t need them anymore. But things turn around fast when the Gray Witch reveals that she knows Hye-jin’s secret: a Mr. Lee Jun-ho.
On the reveal, Hye-jin looks knocked off balance and it’s not long before she gets up and leaves the restaurant while the two older women continue to discuss their next steps. Seung-hee had no idea about the relationship but now that she does, it’s fodder for her plan to crush Daechi Chase. First, they’ll spin a story about how Hye-jin seduced her pupil (adding that he was still underage). Then, they’ll get someone to spread the gossip around the neighborhood. And lastly, they’ll turn the other teachers against Hye-jin and Jun-ho and convince them to leave the hagwon with Seung-hee. And then poof! No more Daechi Chase.
And that well-laid plan pretty much comes to fruition throughout these episodes. It’s a process that’s both drawn-out and fast-happening, and Hye-jin, Jun-ho, and Director Kim find themselves on the opposite side of a fence from everyone they’ve worked with for so long.
But with all these events twirling in the foreground, our leads find themselves forced to rely on each other like never before. When Hye-jin tells Jun-ho “we got caught,” he asks how she wants to handle it. She says she wants his permission to just tell everyone the truth. He responds that it wasn’t his idea to keep it a secret in the first place, and so, of course it’s okay.
But Hye-jin feels guilty about what is going to happen to him when the truth comes out. He’ll be gossiped about and face harsh criticism. Before she can go on, Jun-ho stops her, seemingly feeling patronized, and says, “Just say that you love me.” And this line sticks in Hye-jin’s head, guiding her actions when the world she’s built starts to crumble around her.
In one of the only uplifting scenes this week, Hye-jin and Jun-ho sit down Director Kim to tell him the news, but before they say a word, he’s already angry that they got caught. They’re shocked. He knew?! How? He says he could see the sizzling tension between them from the beginning, “Like a cauldron of desire.” Haha. It was obvious they were going to get together.
Director Kim wants them to deny the rumors and for Jun-ho to move to another hagwon. But Hye-jin — moved by Jun-ho’s simple request to say she loves him — refuses that plan. She’ll take the heat. She’s not going to keep him a secret anymore.
These episodes are mainly filled with conversations. The hagwon employees talk about which side they’ll align with (Seung-hee or Daechi Chase). The students’ parents discuss pulling their kids from the hagwon and requesting refunds. And Hye-jin and Jun-ho are confronted by colleagues left and right.
In the best and most tense of these conversation scenes, Hye-jin tries to reason with a long-time co-worker, YOON JI-SUK (Jang In-sub) — whom we’ve seen take Hye-jin’s side on all matters since the start of the show. He’s just learned about her relationship with Jun-ho and wants to verify it’s true before deciding whether or not to ally with Seung-hee.
Hye-jin begins by trying to quell the mistaken idea that Jun-ho got preferential treatment at work because of her. But Ji-suk doesn’t care about that part. Actually, he’s jealous. He’s always had a crush on her and now he feels stupid for pursuing her when she had her mind on someone else. All the nice and friendly behavior we’ve seen was really a low-key come on. And so, he’s going to side against her — because his ego is too bruised.
It’s these slight but realistic moments that pull the drama along this week, showing how little it takes to turn people against each other, especially in this cut-throat atmosphere. But the one outlier is Chung-mi, who remains a solid friend, after seriously considering her options.
In another great conversation scene, Chung-mi asks Seung-kyu for his advice: what should she choose? Ambition or loyalty? He tells her to achieve her goals — she can’t save her friends or herself by choosing loyalty. And yet, when she asks what he’ll think of her if she chooses ambition, he’s not sure he wants to be taken out to eat with money she earned in a shady way. And she’s not so sure either. So, when push comes to shove, Chung-mi chooses loyalty — but mostly to herself. She’s not one to give up her values just to earn more money.
While we saw our leads at odds with each other last week, this week they’re pulling closer than they’ve ever been. On a snowing night, just before all hell breaks loose at the office the next day, Hye-jin finally tells Jun-ho that she loves him. She just needs him to love her, and she’ll love him back, in order to survive this mess.
Hye-jin takes the brunt of the storm at work, and when moms start arriving to the hagwon in cliques, attacking her character and demanding refunds, she breaks down in tears afterward. Chung-mi comes into the conference room to comfort her and I really feel for Hye-jin in this moment. We know how independent she’s always been and how much she fought off this relationship from ever happening. And the second she lets down her guard for love, she loses everything else she cares about.
As an act of protest at the office, Jun-ho leaves a love note on Hye-jin’s desk so that anyone passing by will see it. When Hye-jin returns and finds it, it touches her and seems to give her strength. She keeps re-reading it and smiling. And when Chung-mi sees Hye-jin behaving in this way, it makes her rethink her priorities. She’s always thought dating and love were useless in life (just like Hye-jin used to), but now she’s seeing you can’t put all your eggs in one basket. As such, she calls up Seung-kyu, invites him to a noraebang, and tells him she’s ready to give dating a fair shake. (Cue adorable handholding.)
We end with our hero in tears. He and Director Kim are at the local pub, and the director is asking him to leave the hagwon in order to pacify the staff and parents. Jun-ho refuses and begins to cry. For the first time in his life, he’s scared. Barely able to get his words out, he says that everything Hye-jin has done in her life is breaking down all at once. He can’t think of a way to fix it. What should he have done differently? “I’m a fool who only thought about fulfilling my own interest.” And just then, Hye-jin walks in to witness him in a puddle of tears before the credits roll.
Well, this kid just grew up. Jun-ho is finally understanding what Hye-jin tried to tell him at the very beginning. The jokester we met in Episode 1 who took everything lightly and wanted to jump right into this relationship is disappearing and now he’s seeing the consequences that she tried to warn him about.
At the same time, Hye-jin is finally taking Jun-ho seriously — and she does it before he has this breaking-point moment. She says she loves him, moves closer to him, and trusts him enough to tell the truth and not keep him a secret. Now that she’s turning toward love — and he’s learned the last lesson that his teacher tried to apart on him — I wonder what the finale has in store for this all-grown-up couple.
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1 jerrykuvira
June 25, 2024 at 1:27 PM
Tissues 😪🤧😪🤧😪.
I'll really love to see this conversations play out onscreen instead of reading.
Chung-mi's reaction is the one that hits the most. I find her as the most moral formidable person who has every reason to not take our lead's side. I liked that she choose loyalty to herself in a way that didn't aversely affect our leads.
I stopped liking Director Kim after that first meeting he had with Jun-ho to make him the face of the academy, replacing Hye-jin. That ending scene was what threw me out of the story and stick to reading the recaps cause I could predict that conversation a mile away and it happened so.
Good news is: I'm back to liking him again.
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tabong says what the fat
June 25, 2024 at 1:46 PM
I'm the same. I started disliking him after the conversation he had with Hye Jin in the restaurant. After the apology I was neutral about him. And after this week I like him again.
PS. I don't know if it was mentioned on the recaps, but Hye Jin is the one that asked him to do that. To put Joon Ho in the add for the academy.
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jerrykuvira
June 25, 2024 at 3:04 PM
I know that most likely, that conversation was extended and his motives properly explained. And I recall that in the recaps the following week, it was stated that Jun-ho turned it down and itself suggested the ad be done differently and better in my books.
Despite admiring Jun-ho for turning down that offer and preventing a drama I don't want to see play out, I was still salty that Director Kim even brought it up.
I don't really know how they concluded the ad drama cause there's only so much the recaps can cover. If it was mentioned, I must have missed it somehow.
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Relisher
June 25, 2024 at 3:00 PM
Chung Mi is so wonderful, I love everything about her.
The show did a flashback to tell the viewers that the ad idea with Jun Ho in it was Hye Jin's first because she thought it would be a novel idea, so I didn't fault the director for that. I did think he was spineless when he got scared and tried to get Hye Jin to have less power and to be fair, I don't think he's any less spineless now. However, I think he's more of a well meaning people pleaser with maybe a hint of good to him, he doesn't necessarily want to be bad but he's not strong enough to be good if someone else isn't helping him. The fact that he feels bad about being one of the reasons Hye Jin probably can't move on is at least a good sign and I hope he finds some gumption in the last two episodes to stand by her and help.
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2 Kafiyah Bello
June 25, 2024 at 1:29 PM
Wooof, a mess. The witch and the vice director are both real pieces of work. I almost understand undercutting her, the hagwon business is cutthroat, but destroying her reputation like that is nasty nasty work. Almost everyone else at the hagwon also aren't that great. Jealousy doesn't look good on anyone. I'm glad Hye Jin had at least two defenders. Man, oh man, what angsty and tense episodes.
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tabong says what the fat
June 25, 2024 at 1:56 PM
It's interesting that from the most relevant characters in the academy, the ones that started the whole mess (apart from the Assistant director) where the other two team leaders. One is incompetent but his useless ego doesn't let him accept Hye Jin's success. And the other is one nasty jelly witch, that's throwing a tantrum because he got rejected.
The others were neutral or less nasty about the situation even though they all seem to want to take advantage of it.
I was expecting the teacher that annoys Cheong Mi (and likes Joon How) to be the one starting the mess.
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Kafiyah Bello
June 25, 2024 at 5:11 PM
Me too per your last sentence. I knew the one who had a crush on Hye Jin would be annoying, but he is actually awful. Just gross.
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tabong says what the fat
June 25, 2024 at 5:17 PM
Yes, he's gross.
Watching him act like that made me regret what I said in the second recap.
I said that him and the director where like Hye Jin's protective oppas or something like that.
I was like "damn you past me" while watching the episode. I really thought he was going to be on her side. 😖 I was delusional.
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ys
June 26, 2024 at 8:52 PM
Me too, @tabong, me too!
Cue the Tyra Banks meme: I WAS ROOTING FOR YOU!!
Then cue table flip.
3 tabong says what the fat
June 25, 2024 at 1:35 PM
These two episodes were scary. Suffocating. Hurtful.
My highlight was Joon Ho feeding Hye Jin, then sending her home, and after both running back to each other.
I felt really bad watching these episodes because of how realistically fcked up everything was, and because Hye Jin is the last person to deserve any of this mess, but that little scene between her and Joon Ho made me feel better.
I don't know how they did it but episode 13 was extremely unsettling and exhausting for an episode where nothing happens. Things exploded in episode 14, but I was already crying by then. I started during episode 13 because of the stress. LMAO
I don't know if it is because of how invested I am in this show, or how sadly real this situation is, or if it has something to be with the production of itself, but these two episodes were very hard to watch.
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Neolttwigi
June 25, 2024 at 3:29 PM
I got a few minutes into 13-where the reveal is- and decided to wait until next week when I could watch all of them. Came to the recaps to see if my prediction of unrelenting angst this week was wrong. Sounds like I was right to stop though :)
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tabong says what the fat
June 25, 2024 at 3:49 PM
I would recommend you to not binge watch them though. I watched the episodes back to back yesterday and it felt very claustrophobic.
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Neolttwigi
June 25, 2024 at 3:54 PM
I can imagine! yes, I was just thinking that only waiting a day between eps 13, 14 and 15 might be better than waiting a week.
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tabong says what the fat
June 25, 2024 at 4:21 PM
Enjoy! It's stressful but good.
ys
June 26, 2024 at 9:01 PM
It took me 5 days to watch these episodes: 2 days for ep 13 and across 3 days to watch 14. I just kept needing to stop and watch something else or read a Buzzfeed article (or 7) to de-stress.
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tabong says what the fat
June 26, 2024 at 9:24 PM
I should've done that.
I just kept stress-drinking (water). By the end of episode 13 I noticed I was holding my breath.
It was super stressful.
Sunnyboo ☀️🥰
June 28, 2024 at 6:32 AM
I was thinking the same thing! That nothing is happening and yet I feel so turned around by these episodes! But you know what? It's because *everything* was happening! Everyone was showing their true colours. The level of quiet violence in these episodes left me breathless. Going all out to destroy another person's life like that...for what? Money? Would you even enjoy that money once you've got it...it's stunning to me. Yet it also felt real, that this is simply a reflection of the real world where capitalism has us fighting each other for everything 😥
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tabong says what the fat
June 28, 2024 at 2:16 PM
Yes!!! That's it! "Quiet violence." You said it perfectly.
Oh, yes. That's the most suffocating part of this show, how realistic it is.
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4 kay4625
June 25, 2024 at 1:49 PM
So, last week I criticized that the aftermath of the big conflict felt way too black-and-white. Well, that applies to the whole show now. There's nothing complicated about this situation. The villains are evil, the heroes are not. There is no middle ground. Everybody that matters is on a very clear side, everything else just doesn't really matter.
What happened to the show that was filled with interesting and complicated situations, where you could actually argue about who was in the right or in the wrong, without the show picking a clear side? I thought the Gray Witch was a very interesting character, she was intimidating and kinda scary, yet it felt like the show never wanted to fully cross into villain territory with her. But now? Now she's just a villain, and that's all she is now.
It's almost funny how the show actually sort of addresses the criticism I had last week, in the scene where the parents confront Hye-jin about the change in her style of teaching. There's an interesting debate there, but the show ignores it in favor of yet another black-and-white situation, because ultimately it's just about the ridiculous Hye-jin/ Jun-ho rumor.
Don't get me wrong, there are still great moments here. Moments like Chung-mi quietly trying to support Hye-jin, and Jun-ho finally breaking down, are some of the highlights. It's not that I don't enjoy the show, I do, but everything about this just feels so significantly less interesting than what we used to have in the first half. It's like we turned a drama filled with interesting and complex situations into yet another variation of a good-vs-evil storyline that we've seen 100 times before, and I honestly think that's a shame.
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LillyBee
June 25, 2024 at 2:45 PM
I agree. It went from grey to black/white.
Now, it's Good Guys vs Bad Guys. Before, the Good Guys would also go into "I'm just here for the money" territory. And well, I never liked the Bad Guys. But now they're really going all out. I do wonder how they'll resolve this money question though. Can you make money under capitalism by doing the right thing? (I myself think it's right, but again, it could've been a gray area there too).
I was about to say "well, the parents are with the directors on this one. They just want good grades to ship their kids off to med school and law school. They don't really care about reading for context and understanding." But yes, ultimately it's about the relationship, and they're using that as a cop-out. They already were pushing their wants/wishes onto their kids. Now, they have another reason to do so.
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Relisher
June 25, 2024 at 2:55 PM
"in the scene where the parents confront Hye-jin about the change in her style of teaching"
I saw this as something that only happened because they found external critique of her first. That is, they were happy to leave the teaching to her when there were no rumors around, but once the nasty rumor spread, then and only then did they find her methods odd and assume that the proof was in changed workbooks etc. Hye Jin brought it up in the part where she was talking about the kids not reading at home.
My own not positive thoughts about extra curricular tuitions aside, in the universe where we assume hagwons are necessary and either neutral or good, the idea seems to be that the onus is on the teachers and the parents only care about the results and not the methods. But the rumor suddenly brought critique on the method, despite it not being a concern before, even if it would have been fine without the rumor if it still brought results.
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GySgt213
June 25, 2024 at 3:02 PM
"it still brought results."
The parents did not seem to want to listen that the methods producing those previous results had limitations.
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kay4625
June 25, 2024 at 3:47 PM
That's a fair point, but then I think you get a new problem, in that both of these things essentially happen at the same time, meaning we don't really know how the rumor plays into all of this. I do think the parents have always been portrayed as rather controlling, as if they know everything better than their own child, to the point where the opinion of the kids seems to matter very little to them.
But then that brings me back to the original problem. All of this is very interesting stuff to explore, but the show pushes it to the side because ultimately it's all about the relationship and the rumor.
I honestly don't really know what the show is trying to tell me, or what it's even about at this point, because it feels like we're focusing on all the wrong things.
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Relisher
June 25, 2024 at 5:38 PM
Yeah, that's a valid point. i think if the show was longer, they could have taken these one at a time and it would have been an interesting exploration of both, innovative/learning-forward methods, and the way rumors can balloon from biases and pettiness, separately. But they all got smushed in for length and kind of muddied each other up. Made for a more dramatic powder keg, but kind of lost out on a more subtle storytelling option.
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tabong says what the fat
June 25, 2024 at 4:09 PM
I also blame it on timing but in a slightly different way.
Hye Jin started implementing a new methodology that makes the kids think instead of copy and paste. In the classes they're listening (and probably talking) more instead of writing.
That means their books and notebooks have less "evidence" of their work progress. The moms took this as laziness from Hye Jin's part.
But like you said, this only happened because of the scandal. Hye Jin didn't have time to show results. Especially because this method is slower.
So when she told the moms "you stopped reading books to your kids," it felt totally random and unfair for them. They having been watching the show like we did. So hearing Hye Jin say that she is changing everything but can't promise good results is crazy stuff.
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pliplipli
June 25, 2024 at 5:18 PM
I agree with you about the lack of more complex conversations. I think even the parents' worries were shown as unreasonable when, in reality, I think any parent could at least stop a little bit to ponder when they hear a rumor their teen son's tutor seduced her student back then. we know hyejin is not like that, we know how their story developed, but the parents only heard that rumor. I think they have every right to at least wonder for a minute if they should address that with the academy or change the tutor. the problem is that the drama painted them so one-dimensional that even that concern reads as too much control and unreasonable because the writing is wants good x evil so bad.
I could say similar things about how the show did the teacher's jealousy as well
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ys
June 26, 2024 at 9:09 PM
I really enjoyed the way the Grey lady was written the first half of this show, and it's so disappointing to see her become, as you say, just a villain.
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5 LillyBee
June 25, 2024 at 2:26 PM
Alright...whew...
Episode 13 was pretty forgettable to me. Again, all the plotting and scheming and career ladder shenanigans... not fun to watch.
The coworkers are exhausting. The parents are exhausting. I feel for the kids.
Episode 14 was better.
I would like to see more of Mr. Pyo. I can relate to managers/directors stopping you from implementing change at work, and I would like to see more of that. The way the boss lady just cut him off and said, "Nope, you can't do that here." Though I'm guessing he's going to jump ship and the "good guys" team will start another academy.
I'm glad we got to see some classes being taught though. I'd also like a resolution to Si Woo's story. Please don't make him go to medical school!
Even with all the nastiness going on, I am glad that one coworker lady said "That's how people are" when talking about how ugly people are. Indeed, that is how people are.
SHOUT OUT TO COWORKER LADY AND MS. NAM!! It was so refreshing to hear "You people are trash" and I just about cried when Ms. Nam said she values her character above all. Same here. Selling your soul seems like a rotten endeavor.
I was confused with Crush Guy's response... but then again, we never really got to know him. I was also confused with Jun Ho's friend's response... but then again, we never really got to know him either. Or the extent of their friendship. If I was Ms. Nam, I would've been turned off by him encouraging me to join the pack of hyenas.
I was also a bit disappointed when the girls didn't go out to eat after Chang Mi gave Hye Jin her support. That would've been a great opportunity for the show to show and consolidate that circle of support and show that blossoming friendship perhaps. Instead, Chang Mi tells Hye Jin to go with Jun-Ho. And then she herself goes off with her romantic interest. Argh.
Hye Jin and Jun Ho crying did have my eyes watering. They're going to need a circle of support, and I'm sure they'll pull through.
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GySgt213
June 25, 2024 at 2:59 PM
"I would like to see more of Mr. Pyo"
Me too and I don't think he is going to stay with the witch.
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tabong says what the fat
June 25, 2024 at 4:20 PM
I was surprised by what the friend said too, but I've noticed that this is how everyone in this show talks. They always say that "you should worry about yourself," "you should prioritize yourself and let other handle their problems." Except for Hye Jin of course. If she's selfish, she's the worst. But everyone else can do whatever they want.
In that sense, I feel like he was trying to tell her to do what's best for her. I think he also said that because he didn't know how big the whole deal was. Also, he said "you should by him (Joon Ho) a meal next time," and when she asked him if he would eat something she bought him with that (dirty) money he said he would need to think about because it would give him indigestion.
So I think he was talking about the situation 100% from her perspective and not his. He wasn't talking about it as Joon Ho's friend or himself, but what Cheong Mi should consider. At the end he told her that she should do what feels right for her. He was just given her options.
But again, I think he had no idea how nasty the situation was and that's why he said all that.
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LillyBee
June 25, 2024 at 5:54 PM
True. It could also be a lost in translation thing. I just read the subtitles.
And perhaps him not knowing what's going on speaks to the extent of his friendship with Jun Ho (though I'm not sure how much time elapsed or if Jun Ho had time to tell him what's going on. I did go back and in episode 13, Jun Ho does tell him "never mind" when the topic comes up). Because I know when something happens with me, I go to my friends to spill the beans. "Do you know what happened to me at work!?!" Stuff like that.
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Relisher
June 25, 2024 at 5:35 PM
I saw Jun Ho's friend's response more as something where he was trying to be neutral because he knew her position, i.e. she had it hard in life and was trying her best in a new place with a fresh start and didn't have the clout yet to dictate terms herself. He wasn't telling her to join in slandering them, but trying to say that looking out for herself in taking a sure job could be ok. However, once she asked him if he would be ok with her treating him with money she made after doing that, he said he would probably feel sick, so his real feelings about it came through there and I think they both understood each other.
I agree, I wanted Hye Jin and Chung Mi to go out to eat and bond together too, though I get why the show sent her out alone because she was meant to see Jun Ho breaking down. I wish the show was longer because I always enjoy Chung Mi and Hye Jin's scenes.
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LillyBee
June 25, 2024 at 5:58 PM
Yes. I'm not sure about him. I do agree with Chung Mi x Hye Jin. More of that (their interactions) would be nice that. It'd be nice to see their friendship develop.
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6 Relisher
June 25, 2024 at 2:48 PM
I loved both episodes so much. It was hard but it had some shining moments of loyalty and love and tenderness too. I loved that there was no obnoxious break up for no reason, that there were some allies, both expected and surprising, and that it was all done in such a convincing way, both the love, the sadness, and the mean, awful, pettiness. There was some excellent acting from both leads.
I loved that Hye Jin told Jun Ho to love her and stay by her and that he was trying his best to do that, instead of some kind of self-sacrificing breakup happening that wouldn't solve anything. I loved Hye Jin feeling free to break down in front of Chung Mi when she was trying so hard to keep her composure everywhere else, love their friendship. The scenes with her and the moms was hard, and it was awful how rumors just took a life of their own because some people just want to be nasty. I'm glad she has some people on her side.
I also felt so bad for Jun Ho. I don't think any of this was his fault, but he had been kind of blindly and optimistically (and a little bit naively) charging forward and life just threw the worst kind of curveball at him and his happiness, and it all just suddenly came crumbling down. Director Kim assuming that he was just blase about it all and then getting so incredibly flustered when Jun Ho broke down in tears in front of him was a little bit funny, even though the scene itself was genuinely sad and moving. I hope Hye Jin seeing him in tears doesn't make her feel more guilty, and instead drives home that he's as committed to them as she is and that they need to hold each other close to get through it.
I loved that Chung Mi was, as expected, a loyal friend and colleague to Hye Jin, but I also loved the english teacher became a surprising ally and called Ji Suk trash for his behavior. It was both disappointing but also very realistic that a man would show support for a woman because he harbored feelings for her, but then turn on her as soon as she made it clear she wasn't into him. It's unfortunate that the actor has such a nice face because he started looking so unattractive as his character got more awful XD
Chung Mi and Seung Kyu were both good friends and also adorable together. Chung Mi is on the same level as Hye Jin and Jun Ho as my favorites in the show, I love every scene of hers, whether she's taking down nasty colleagues, being nonchalant about her relationship decision, or deciding her moral stance. I also loved that she's baffled by Jun Ho and clearly supports Hye Jin and finds their relationship inspiring and sweet, but also does not seem to want a man like him at all, lmao.
I hope the writing does justice to the rest of the show and gives a reasonable sendoff. Things can't go back to what they were exactly, but that doesn't mean it can't be salvaged with some decency. There were also some small but genuinely funny moments, like them being shocked that Dir Kim knew they were together, I hope...
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Relisher
June 25, 2024 at 2:48 PM
...There were also some small but genuinely funny moments, like them being shocked that Dir Kim knew they were together, I hope there are some more too in the last couple of episodes.
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tabong says what the fat
June 25, 2024 at 5:00 PM
That scene was funny and sweet. Just like the scene with Joon Ho's parents.
It's nice that even though the director is one of the people with a lot to lose because of their relationship, knew all about it and didn't care.
Joon Ho's parents (especially dad) weren't dramatic about it either. Mom says she doesn't approve but she didn't try to make Hye Jin sound like a bad person (unlike others...).
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Lalla32
August 22, 2024 at 1:40 PM
Beautiful comment! I totally agree with everything. Well said! Beautiful episodes. Painful episodes. Good stuff, really!
"It was both disappointing but also very realistic that a man would show support for a woman because he harbored feelings for her, but then turn on her as soon as she made it clear she wasn't into him. "
And YES to this. So true.
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7 GySgt213
June 25, 2024 at 2:52 PM
"Ji-suk doesn’t care about that part because his ego is too bruised."
This guy pissed me off. He kept talking about cowardly things and he is one big coward. He was afraid to express his feelings until it was too late and then got mad because she didn't pick up on him liking her when he never expressed any damn feelings.
Did you see me lurking around you? WTF does that even mean? He didn't have to make a marriage proposal but at least ask out loud for a date. Jeez. She dodged a bullet not being with this complete idiot.
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8 GySgt213
June 25, 2024 at 3:13 PM
So, the assistant director's minion isn't even qualified to teach and faked his credentials.
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9 SVG
June 25, 2024 at 3:24 PM
Oh, this one hurt. Something similar happened to me, not in cause, but in effect (untrue rumors spread, trusted friends were no longer trustworthy or kind)...it was rough. I spent most of ep 14 just in tears for Hyejin and Junho. What happened to them was predictable (of course that's what people would believe, true or not), but so unfair.
What happened last week in eps 11-12 actually laid the foundation for how HJ reacted to all this, this week. Her hard-fought internal battle, eventually deciding to buck the teach-to-the-test system, prepared her to stand strong in the face of the world tearing her apart (even when it hurt - the moment she completely broke in the conference room gutted me). If she hadn't gone through that in the way she went through it (and I think the road to her decision was so important!), I don't know that she would've decided, this week, not to dodge or hide or lie to keep her job and her position/status within the academy.
And then JH's breakdown with Director Kim at the very end... I'm a sympathy crier - I rarely cry for myself, but if I see someone else crying, especially men for some reason, I'm a mess. And so his break gutted me, too. It was honest and fitting that that's how he responded to the realization that his impulsiveness carried a cost that he hadn't been able, or wasn't willing, to foresee.
Seriously, PDnim has a knack for characters that are just so hateful. I'm so glad I stuck it out with this show, waiting for the layers to peel away.
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DancingEmma
June 25, 2024 at 4:06 PM
Don’t take this the wrong way as we are all conditioned to regard male tears as so and affecting precious. They’re not inherently so but we have all been brain-washed and need to snap out of it!
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Vladdles
June 25, 2024 at 11:44 PM
Absolutely! Same as when a man is spotted out alone with a baby/small child and you see women sighing and cooing 'what a wonderful father', 'give that man an award' a response a mother would never get....
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SVG
June 26, 2024 at 11:41 AM
I mean, I wasn't *more* affected by his tears than by HJ's. It was just more unexpected - I didn't expect to see him manifest his emotions in that way - and so I was surprised more than anything.
As for finding "male tears as so affecting and precious," at least in the USA, men are presented as meant to be stoic and strong, as if feeling anything is, for them, the wrong way to handle any situation. The reason I'm affected by male tears is that they represent the fact that humans should feel, and humans should emote, no matter which brand of chromosomes they have. I appreciate that kdramas don't shy away from that. Men are allowed to cry - *as they should be.*
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DancingEmma
June 26, 2024 at 12:27 PM
You misunderstood me. And, the States is not exceptional. I wasn’t suggesting but you assumed I did but noting that the very social conditioning which leads to toxic masculinity also privileges their crying as rare and hence much more affecting. The proof is in the pudding.
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SVG
June 28, 2024 at 4:20 PM
I'm so sorry - I don't fully understand what you're trying to say, but I'd like to. I'm sorry if I communicated offense or offensively. I agree that male tears aren't - or shouldn't be - more affecting than female tears. Emotions are human, so all humans should be able to manifest them in whatever way is natural to them and harmless to others. I didn't think I was assuming anything about you at all - I was only examining my original statement in light of your first comment - I think I respond the way I do because the culture I grew up in sees male tears as a sign of weakness, and so seeing things - emotional expression being only one - through the eyes of a different culture is good. I never understood that stoic men-don't-cry thing (my own dad often expressed himself in tears), so it's a relief, for lack of a better word, that not every culture thinks that way. Does that make any sense?
tabong says what the fat
June 25, 2024 at 5:11 PM
I spent the entire episode in tears too. I was so angry and hurt. It was such an unfair and ridiculous situation. And I hated to see all those people discredit Hye Jin's merits and turning her into a creep.
I also felt so bad for Joon Ho. When he said that he shouldn't have gone there, or that he should've been nicer with the others I felt so sad.
And I don't remember if our leads have cried before so watching them cry for the "first" time, completely broke my heart.
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10 loveblossom🌸
June 25, 2024 at 10:10 PM
I cried when Hye Jin cried.
I cried when Jun Ho cried.
I was annoyed watching their awful coworkers. I've seen the actor playing Myung Joon in other crappy roles so yeah, need a break from seeing his face. I'm especially pissed off at Ji Seok. He is worse than jerks who consistently show their cruel and bitter ways. I'd rather know their true selves upfront so I can keep my distance. I hope he doesn't get any forgiveness from Hye Jin.
I really fell for Chung Mi this week. Her savage comeback at Chae Yoon's petty insult was excellent on multiple points.
The confession scene in the karaoke room was charming and sweet. Definitely a bright moment during these tense episodes. Appreciated Chung Mi's line about preferring substance over style.
With two episodes left, I'm wondering how things will be resolved. Almost seems like there's not enough time.
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11 Procrasti-NationFirstCitizen
June 25, 2024 at 11:40 PM
I think I'm going to wait until all the episodes are out before watching the last 13-16- Just managed to sit through 5 mins of 13 before the tension got the better of me. I'm actually glad for these recaps/ spoilers, because now, I'm prepared beforehand for all the angst!
The Grey Witch's expression when she revealed that she knew about Jun Ho, and the AD's sneering- I would have been arrested for going John Wick on those two had I been there. I had defended GW earlier on, hoping that she was actually on Hye Jin's side and disliked the Asst Dir, but after seeing her behaviour in the little bit I watched, both women are just plain nasty.
Seems like the rest of the folks around Hye Jin, bar a few, are as bad, but I hope the good people win over all the nasty, salacious, scandal-mongering folk that largely populate this show.
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SVG
June 26, 2024 at 11:43 AM
I fully intended to do that, but just couldn't wait. This side of things, I can't say I wish I'd waited, but I assume it would certainly be less unnecessary emotional distress if I could just go straight into the last set of eps after these two!
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12 Kurama
June 25, 2024 at 11:40 PM
All of that because 2 adults are dating... It's crazy how people have the capacity to make simple things very complicated because of their own interest, the jealousy being the mainly reason :
- Yoon Ji-Suk and Kim Chae-Yoon were interested in our leads and can't accept to be rejected
- Lee Myung-Joon never had Hye-Jin's success and will get her work.
The issue was this problem was mixed with their new project to teach in a different way and it's sad because again, it will be the students will suffer from it. The parents can't see far, they pay to get results now.
I was sad because of the Director but in the same time, the reputation is very important for a Hagwon and everybody could be affected by it. But he always chose the easy solution and never fight for his employees. He could have talked to the other colleagues...
The couples are cute! A little bit of happiness in this messiness.
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13 Vladdles
June 26, 2024 at 12:56 AM
I am very disappointed in Director Choi's behaviour this week, her actions are beneath her and extremely undignified. Yes do your best to get the upper-hand over Daechi Chase but to expose Hye-Jin's personal life is truly reprehensible knowing full well the very real ramifications of what this will do to a young woman's life. I hate seeing women being horrible to other women and that's not to say men doing this is a lesser evil but this is on a whole other level, it is not just business being business.
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14 FormAnOrderlyQueue
June 26, 2024 at 4:24 AM
Fascinating to read all the Beanie comments here! So many good dissections of what's going on.
I had a slightly different reaction to these episodes. I love the hagwon related issues, whether it be discussions on education, or why hagwons have to be so cut-throat, or how various players use and abuse other people and their own positions to get to their ends. It's often brutal but it engages my brain and heart and makes me ponder.
This week, I simply struggled with Hyejin and Junho. All of what they did made total sense if I was completely convinced that they were deeply in love. But, I just haven't got there yet. I remember Beanies commenting on not feeling the love between the leads back at the beginning of the drama, and I'm still not convinced. For me, this isn't a criticism of the actors - they're doing a stellar job - but I haven't had enough time/dialogue with them both to convince me they would go to the darkest valley for each other. I can see that we've had enough time chronologically for that depth of feeling to occur - but I'm feeling the time on screen devoted to it has been rather thin. After the arguments of ep11-12, I just needed more time devoted to how they sat down, really discussed their positions, understood each other so much better, found delight in each other's intelligent thinking, made decisions about how they would go forward from there, and in all that became more in deep love with each other. Alas, time.
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SVG
June 26, 2024 at 11:54 AM
"I haven't had enough time/dialogue with them both to convince me they would go to the darkest valley for each other. I can see that we've had enough time chronologically for that depth of feeling to occur - but I'm feeling the time on screen devoted to it has been rather thin." It's an interesting take - I get where you're coming from and agree for the most part. I think there are certain things we're meant to take for granted given their history, and while I know there's only so much time to unfold all that, it would help with the payoff now (of which there's still actually plenty for me) if Writer-nim had put a bit more time on the backend (more time crafting the flashbacks or dialogue) to truly show that commitment develop. I think we're getting hints of it now - she chose to get his permission to stay public rather than just deciding as if she's in this all on her own (even though she's bearing the brunt of the social and economic judgment). When she was hurting so deeply and seemed to want to be alone, he was willing to give her the space that just a couple of episodes ago, he wouldn't do. But they both ran back and met in the middle so she could tell him she loves him - this is new for her! - and then his emotional crash at realizing the cost of all this. He was scared, but unless I missed something, I don't think he was scared primarily for himself, was he? He was scared for her and what she will probably lose, just for his sake. That's a heavy burden to carry, but they're both willing to do it.
Of course, I came to the realization a few weeks ago that HJ seems to mirror my internal landscape in some scary-accurate ways, so I think I understand her more quickly than I normally would because of that.
Incidentally, how do you format the bold and italics in your comments? Is there a post somewhere here on DB that can teach me?
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FormAnOrderlyQueue
June 27, 2024 at 1:14 AM
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FormAnOrderlyQueue
June 27, 2024 at 1:20 AM
Thanks for this comment - made me appreciate that there are incidents which are communicating the depth of the relationship even if I personally am not feeling them. It made me think again, and that's good!
There are posts on how to make things bold etc on DB, but I have no idea how to locate them! Basically, DB uses html text formatting. See https://www.w3schools.com/html/html_formatting.asp for a simple starter.
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SVG
June 28, 2024 at 4:02 PM
That's why I love these recap discussions (and this is the first I've actually participated in) - there are so many differing perspectives that can deepen our own understanding of the drama and relationships to the characters. I learn so much here from so many! Your comment made me think, and I appreciate that.
Thanks, too, for the link - I'll take a look and see what else I can learn. :)
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indyfan
June 27, 2024 at 2:32 AM
@attiton did a post on DB html tags that might be helpful:
https://www.dramabeans.com/members/attiton/activity/1452358/
The fanwall allows a few more options than other parts of the site such as recaps, which only allow the basics.
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SVG
June 28, 2024 at 4:03 PM
Awesome, thank you so much!
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LillyBee
June 26, 2024 at 4:10 PM
I can see that. The romance is a focal point in some episodes and it fades to the background in other episodes. I just took their "I love you" with a grain of salt. Eh. I was more focused on the other stuff.
They certainly have time on their side. They've known each other for a long time like you said. But depth?
Plus, Jun Ho's characterization doesn't feel complete to me. I still don't have an idea of who he is as a person (I just know he likes money, he likes Hye Jin, and now he wants to teach students this way, like how he was taught). He does seem to be willing to learn (learning and apologizing post-argument). That's a good sign for any relationship.
Also, I just remembered Hye Jin wanted to become a lawyer. Maybe we could've explored that too.
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FormAnOrderlyQueue
June 27, 2024 at 1:22 AM
Yes, thanks for adding that Junho's characterisation is lacking. Makes sense: if I'm struggling to care about him because I have no idea what I'm supposed to be caring about, that's going to colour my care about his relationship too. Good point!
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tabong says what the fat
June 27, 2024 at 2:06 PM
I like this new perspective!
I think I agree with you on how their romance isn't as trascendental as we would expect it to be for a situation like this. But in my case, I didn't find the deepness of their feelings that relevant.
I watch the show with a focused on Hye Jin. So for me the romance represents Hye Jin taking care of herself.
We saw her rest for the first time when Jun Ho took her to the hospital. We see that he's the only one to ask her if she has eaten, and her friend saw her smile and feel lighter after she met him.
So for me, it didn't feel like this was about protecting their eternal love, but more about Hye Jin trying to protect herself. Her not wanting to go back to her old life. So for me it kinda felt like she didn't want to deny her relationship with Jun Ho because for the first time in a long time, she's happy and she doesn't want to lose that.
From Jun Ho's perspective, I just see him as a "my way" guy. He's not the type to take a no for an answer. He does wtv he wants. And he when he believes he's right, he won't say otherwise. So eternal love or shallow love doesn't really matter to him. He's not the type to hide anything about himself. But I think it's even stronger in this scenario, considering how much he likes and respects Hye Jin (plus the fact that they literally did nothing wrong). So he would do anything to defend her.
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Mrs Buckwheat
December 23, 2024 at 9:57 PM
FormAnOrderlyQueue - I'm only catching up with this show now at the end of year and I 100% agree with your comment that the time on screen devoted to it has been rather thin. I feel like we have only seen them together as a happy couple in a relationship for all of 5 minutes and then bam all this crap. I found it hard to believe the physical aspect of their relationship when Junho was fully clothed in their bed scene and when they woke up in the morning he was fully clothed still. Yet we get to see him undress down to his boxers in his own room hours after the river scene. It would of made their romance seem more real if this had of happened during the bed scene and come across as adults instead of PG13.
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15 indyfan
June 26, 2024 at 8:21 AM
An interesting article on Hagwons:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/reginakim/2024/06/23/the-midnight-romance-in-hagwon-what-to-know-about-the-unique-kdrama/
Some surprises (to me):
- top instructors (known as “star lecturers”) are known to make between $10 million and $22 million a year.
- There are over 24,000 hagwons in Seoul alone—that’s triple the number of convenience stores in the city.
- About 78% of Korean students attend at least one hagwon, with many attending four or more.
- The average monthly spending for each student increased by 5.8% from the previous year to $312, even though the total number of students in Korea shrank by 1.3% over the same period.
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LillyBee
June 26, 2024 at 4:16 PM
That's wild. I didn't know they made millions. And they pay that much for tutoring?!
As someone who comes from a laissez-faire kind of family (my parents said "you do you," if you want to go to college, fine, if you don't, that's fine too, it's your life), it's just... stressful seeing how the culture is in Korea.
I did end up going to college myself. No one pushed me to do anything (which is nice). No one told me "you have to be a doctor, lawyer, or engineer."
I did well enough in school. I never did tutoring, never did after-school things, never paid for SAT or ACT prep or anything like that.
No emphasis on meritocracy or classism or elitism or capitalism in the way I was raised.
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indyfan
June 27, 2024 at 2:27 AM
I'm glad you had supportive family. Reading about the salaries made me realize why Junho initially thought it might be a lucrative career. It may not be (as much) if they create their ideal academy, but among the tens of thousands hagwons, surely they can find their niche.
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LillyBee
June 27, 2024 at 11:52 AM
Yes, hopefully we can wrap it up in just two episodes.
Jun Ho has like 5 students in his class right now. It might not be lucrative, but it might be ok.
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16 john
June 27, 2024 at 7:46 AM
Dramaddictally, thanks for the recap !
The director never fails to disappoint !
Why is the Associate Director allowed to operate like a gang boss ? Can’t she be fired ?
Any workmates that are anti-OTP are hopeless losers.
Barring any last minute fatal diseases, I see a Happy Ever After 💐🌟 ending for our OTP.
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17 LateBloomerAddict
June 27, 2024 at 6:37 PM
Hi, you all write so many thoughtful things I sincerely appreciate the write-ups and the beanies thoughts. I am not even finished with episode 14 and had to stop and write this. . I am SO mad and Ji-seok and his big bruised ego. What a baby!
I have much less of a problem with Cheong-mi and her loyalty over ambition dilemma (and I also think she and Sung-gyu are adorable ). I, personally find the romance between Hye-Jin and Jun-ho believable. sadly, i also see the envy and greed of others and the rush to judgement on the part of their alleged “friends”/colleagues as well as the parents unfortunate, sad and realistic. People often chose to believe the worst of others if they themselves are insecure. Justifying that bad behavior with “we are just looking out for the children “ is just that -justification.
I am a sucker for a happy ending and I have a very clear idea of how i would like this to all end, I suppose I will find out soon.
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18 MikeyD signed up
June 28, 2024 at 8:31 PM
I can't think of another drama where so often the director seemed to instruct the actors 'Sit here and think this' and miraculously it works. We know what they're thinking. We watch them collecting their thoughts. Their dialog seems to come out naturally instead of being recited. And its not just the main leads, everyone down the the most minor character has been given their own interior life,
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19 Lalla32
August 22, 2024 at 1:53 PM
WOW! What am I watching?!? I have all the feels!! These two episodes were so intense and painful and stressful and absolutely wonderful. Obviously I cried, twice!! Everyone is doing such an amazing job here. And even the OST worked perfectly in these two eps... maybe it is finally growing on me.
I love when a drama manages to make me love characters that at first I disliked and vice versa! This is a sign of a great script for me. And it's incredible that with these final episodes they managed to build this incredible tension... a thing that most dramas fail to do. Looking forward to watch the last two eps. This is truly a jem! One of the best dramas of this year surely!
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