Castaway Diva: Episodes 7-8
by quirkycase
Our heroine deals with professional gains and personal setbacks this week thanks to certain revelations. But she’s not the only one with difficult decisions to make. Our pair of brothers find themselves disagreeing on how best to deal with a complication, and our reinvigorated mentor struggles to accept the consequences of her actions.
EPISODES 7-8
First off, a major correction: in last week’s recap, I incorrectly said that Ki-ho was the one with the head injury in the flashback when it was actually Chae-ho. That means Chae-ho is the amnesiac Woo-hak and Ki-ho is the hot-and-cold Bo-geol. I was having an off week and obviously dropped the ball with this. Sorry for the confusion!
With that cleared up, this week’s episodes give us the rest of the backstory on the brothers, so no more guesswork. Huzzah! We learn that after Chae-ho’s head injury, Ha-jung stayed with him at the hospital while Bong-wan took Ki-ho with him to Chunsam. Ha-jung told Ki-ho to find them secretly in the spring – she planned to change their identities and wait for him. It took a while for Ki-ho to successfully escape his father, but he eventually made it back to them. At that point, Sang-doo had assumed the role of their father, and the happy family was complete.
Bo-geol’s happiness intensified his guilt toward Mok-ha. He never stopped looking for her, hence the island cleaning group he founded in college. Despite his feigned indifference to her when she returned, Bo-geol is the one who asked his parents to let her stay with them after he discovered Woo-hak had stashed her in their house.
In the present, Bo-geol sticks to his guns about the performance and pushes Mok-ha toward her dream. Ran-joo’s fear initially gets the best of her, and she declares to Mok-ha that she won’t let her take this from her. Not that she has anything to fear from the overly loyal Mok-ha who has no intention of stealing the limelight. Still, Ran-joo does the right thing in the end and instructs production to get Mok-ha stage ready.
Underdog Mok-ha is given plenty of support before she goes head-to-head with superstar Mo-rae. Bo-geol has sweetly set up the stage to look like the ocean. Ran-joo, for her part, makes a public apology for having Mok-ha sing for her this whole time. She pleads with the audience to vote for the best voice, not their favorite singer, giving Mok-ha a shot to win.
Mok-ha finally makes her debut as herself and against all odds, she wins. Ran-joo looks on proudly from the sidelines while Mok-ha stands shocked and joyous as the crowd chants her name. From the production room, her first fan Bo-geol watches with a smile.
Her joy is short lived, however, when she hears Bo-geol and Woo-hak fighting in the stairwell. The boys have switched stances, and now it’s Woo-hak who worries about their father locating them and Bo-geol arguing they can’t live in hiding forever. Lying might be new to Woo-hak, but Bo-geol has been doing it for 15 years and is tired.
Mok-ha, still reeling from the revelation, spots Bong-wan outside the studio. She turns off her phone and marches out to meet him. Eek! Naïve Mok-ha is no match for shrewd Bong-wan whose confidence that she knows Ki-ho grows with every denial. She’s scared to go back to their house and lead Bong-wan to the family, so she texts Ran-joo goodbye and takes the first train out of Seoul.
The brothers go after her and find her location pretty much immediately. It’s hard to hide when you’ve become famous overnight and people post about you in real time. They split up to search the area, and once again, Bo-geol finds her first. He tells her outright that he’s Ki-ho and how much he’d wanted to thank her for being alive when he saw her on the island. He pulls her into a hug as she cries and Woo-hak watches conflicted.
Woo-hak is all ready to tell her to stay hidden for their family’s sake… until he comes face-to-face with her and her unwavering selflessness, at which point he’s upset she’s so self-sacrificing. He’s so frustrated he just walks away, unable to crush her dreams and make her lose everything again. Echoing his younger self, Bo-geol tells her to become famous enough to be untouchable so their father can’t threaten them.
Now that Mok-ha has well and truly been accepted into the family, secrets and all, Woo-hak decides it’s time for some fun. He calls his parents, and they have a family camping trip like when the boys were teens. Kind of an odd choice given Mok-ha has essentially spent the last 15 years extreme camping. At least he didn’t take her to the ocean.
During family fun time, Woo-hak plays the big brother and has a chat with Mok-ha and Bo-geol. He reminds her never to use their old identities and to be careful of what she says in public. Then, in the name of clearing the air, he directly asks Bo-geol and Mok-ha if they still have feelings for each other. Mok-ha says no way, but Bo-geol readily admits he does. (If only every drama character communicated so openly.)
It’s so nice to see Woo-hak taking everything so well since it’s clear he likes Mok-ha and even thought he was Ki-ho. His sweet parents know him well and notice his feelings for Mok-ha, so they gently (and awkwardly) ask him about it. He assures them that he only slightly liked her when he thought he was Ki-ho, leaving them abashed when he grows angry they thought he and Bo-geol would fight over a woman.
After beating Mo-rae on live television, everyone and their momma is interested in Mok-ha. The entertainment world is clamoring to sign her, including Seo-joon. Unfortunately for him, he’s burned that bridge. Remember that embarrassing phone call with Ran-joo all those years ago? Well, it’s making the rounds again, leaving Woo-hak highly amused. When Mok-ha explains Ki-ho is to blame for her not being able to sing on air back then, Woo-hak is appropriately aghast. (He’s that expressive friend who always gives the right reactions to your stories.)
The only person Mok-ha hasn’t heard from is Ran-joo. She took off to visit her mother who has Alzheimer’s and hasn’t been answering her phone. When Ran-joo is out, her mother answers her phone – she believes she is Ran-joo – and goes straight to meet Mok-ha. Ran-joo comes to pick her mom up at the house, but things are frosty between her and Mok-ha.
Mok-ha apologizes, but Ran-joo is like a different person. She tells Mok-ha that she’s not pathetic enough to waste her life on a “talentless” person. (Disappointing, but not surprising.) Mok-ha looks like she was slapped in the face. Mo-rae warned her Ran-joo would do this eventually, but Mok-ha had stood up for Ran-joo like always. Maybe this will help her learn to stop idolizing Ran-joo and letting her entirely control their relationship. Mok-ha is much better at standing up for others than she is for herself.
Meanwhile, the brothers continue to be entangled with their father both by accident and choice. Woo-hak coincidentally ends up on the story of the strange bee car crash, and he meets up with the victim’s wife Young-joo. When she mentions that she went to school with Mok-ha and her husband visited Bong-wan’s workplace, and he pieces everything together.
Bo-geol has gone on the offensive and decides to take the fight to their father. He starts making trips to Chunsam, but Bong-wan isn’t stupid enough to be lured. Instead, he has a friend convey a message saying he’ll find Ki-ho soon himself. Bong-wan’s fixation on Ki-ho is odd; the Chunsam neighbors don’t even know he has another son! And all this time, he’s talked of finding Ki-ho specifically. Maybe Ki-ho is the one who hurt his pride the most, so he’s targeting him.
Bong-wan, true to his word, manages to find out about the salon and locate his family. But before he can do anything, Bo-geol shows up at his front door and announces himself as Ki-ho. We end the week as Bo-geol enters the apartment and faces down his shocked father. (Imagine how much more shocked he’d be if he’d seen Bo-geol’s recent search history which includes questions about patricide.) Bo-geol clearly means business.
While I don’t know that going alone to ambush Bong-wan was the smartest idea, I am glad that Bo-geol is facing him on his own terms. I just wish he’d looped Woo-hak in so they could at least handle it together – safety in numbers. Bong-wan has made it clear he won’t stop harassing his family until he’s dead, so they’ll have to deal with it one way or another. Hopefully they’ll find a murder-free way.
Despite the affection I have for child Ki-ho, I have to say, I’m not feeling a romance between him and Mok-ha as adults. While I can see them ending up together because the all-powerful childhood connection, not every deep bond has to end in romance. And I love them as friends. If we’re going based off of the interactions she’s had as an adult, I’m on the Woo-hak train. They have such a cute, comfortable dynamic that sprung up very naturally. I always enjoy their scenes together and feel they have more chemistry. Maybe I’ll change my mind now that Bo-geol is emerging from his shell, but I’m not sold yet.
All in all, I’m glad the secret is out and no rifts were formed. I didn’t want them lying to Mok-ha for too long and going the miscommunication route. While I didn’t necessarily mind the identity mystery, I do wish we had focused more equally on Bo-geol and Woo-hak from the start. The show was pushing Woo-hak so hard as a red herring that the switch in focus to Bo-geol felt jarring. That quibble aside, I do like both brothers and find their whole little family delightful. Romance or no romance, Mok-ha has found herself a lovely set of people who genuinely care about her, and that’s what’s truly important.
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Tags: Castaway Diva, Cha Hak-yeon, Chae Jong-hyeop, Kim Hyo-jin, Kim Joo-hun, Lee Re, Moon Woo-jin, Park Eun-bi
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1 Lelly19
November 21, 2023 at 2:20 PM
I've said it on my fanwall too, I found episode 7 absolutely perfect! Both from the diva development and the Kiho storyline!
The build up to that last scene was *chef's kiss*!! It's everything I wanted to see and more!! I couldn't have asked for a better way to finally get that Kiho reveal to Mokha!
Also the reimagined scene of Bogeol finally finding Mokha on the island?!?! Tears!!!! I absolutely adored that!! 🥺
Episode 7 was probably my favorite of the show (after the opening one, I'd say), but episode 8 was somewhat underwhelming.
While I like how the story progressed, it didn't flow as smoothly as the previous episodes, in my opinion.
We got more information about what happened to Kiho, how he reunited with his fam, and how things worked out for them, which was nice (though at this point I had it all figured out, it was kinda redundant xD).
I loved seeing the Kang family having fun with Mokha! Woohak was adorable, I love his supportive bestie vibes!
I don't see why insist with the love triangle when Woohak himself said he does not have feelings for Mokha, and is acting like a wing man for her and his bro?!
Yes, he might have (or have had?) feelings that go beyond friendship for her, but he won't be pursuing them, he said it himself..and I'm inclined to believe him..I don't see the writer changing that, because she's been pretty consistent with the story till now, no weird twists or anything like that.
Speaking of twists, the seagull and the egg story on ep7??? I did not see that coming and it hit so hard later with the reveal..poor Mokha really struggled a lot for those 15 years 😭
Finally we also found out about the mysterious old lady!! I'm honestly not surprised she's Ranjoo's mom (though my theories were off ahah), it makes sense, but I'm glad we cleared that up! We'll see later what's her role in all this 👀
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Lelly19
November 21, 2023 at 2:20 PM
It seems like a lot of things will be happening NEXT WEEK:
- [SPOILER] (and getting hurt?!?! My baby what are you thinking 😭)
- [SPOILER]
- [SPOILER] It seems like she hit a wall regarding her relationship with Ranjoo, but that might be only temporary..please let our divas duo be alright 🥺
Finally, speaking of predictions..after 8 episode it seems clear to me that romance is not the main focus of this drama at all. There's so much stuff going on, so I get it.
This week we had Bogeol basically confess he likes Mokha, and, though she's not quite there yet, it appears he's gonna be reciprocated by her too, in the near future (see last scene of ep8 👀).
But these two budding lovebirds barely have scenes together, so there is little chance for them to really get closer and for us viewers to connect with a romance and it's a pity!! Why is this only 12 episodes *sobs*
I really hope we'll see more developments on that front next week, but even then, it will be superficial, I fear, because there's just no time! My only wish is no open ending please! So fingers crossed there!!
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Lelly19
November 22, 2023 at 3:08 AM
I wish there was a spoiler tag here lol!! Sorry, my bad xD
Though some of these were not really spoilers..maybe I get that bit about Mokha though we already saw some developments in episode 8. But the point about Bogeol going after his dad (if anything the part between parenthesis was spoilery lol) and Woohak getting leads on his case these are not spoilers!! We saw them during episode 8 :(((
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Daniela Sileanu
December 15, 2023 at 4:25 AM
What do you mean about Mokha ,Kiho and Woohak ?pls tell me.tks.
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Lelly19
December 15, 2023 at 12:04 PM
Ah, it's been a while let me see if I remember...mmm.. about Mokha I probably was referring to her disagreements with Ranjoo that we saw during episode 8.
About Kiho/Bogeol and Woohak I already explained in the comment above 🤔
I'm afraid I can't say more because that would be spoilers again xD
I hope this helps, I'm not sure I answered your questions in a satisfactory way 😅
GySgt213
November 26, 2023 at 7:38 AM
Yes, 12 episodes seem kind of short to wrap up a complex storyline like this. I hope they don't rush the ending because of that.
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vienibenmio
November 21, 2023 at 2:24 PM
My previous favorite ep was 4 but 7 is a STRONG competitor.
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DancingEmma
November 21, 2023 at 5:05 PM
Have you mentioned here the portmanteau for our childhood friends? Please do it!
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vienibenmio
November 21, 2023 at 5:15 PM
I have not! I'll make a comment below
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Lelly19
November 22, 2023 at 3:27 AM
Yes!! Episode 4 was great too!! I watched it 3 times but I would have done it more if I had the time!! xD
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vienibenmio
November 22, 2023 at 5:58 AM
I may or may not have rewatched the singing contest part several times, most recently on Monday
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rlg07
November 21, 2023 at 3:56 PM
I'm sorta glad they point-blank explained the timeline, as we did spend quite a while here trying to work out what happened between the chair and Kiho showing up on the island sans Chae Ho. (Glad to see that people here worked it out right!)
As for love triangles, I agree with you completely. I have always thought it fairly obvious that Bo Geol was Kiho, but it seems there has also been lingering confusion over that among viewers, so it's good to have that crystal clear. I don't think the text really supports much of a love triangle; WH had some initial interest, but once he realized he wasn't Kiho and his brother was, and once he realized just what kind of a history MH and his brother actually have, I think he's happy to view Mokha as another family member. But history shows that pitting fans against each other into different love teams builds buzz, and so I sense a liiiiittle tiny bit of artificial push on the whole supposed love triangle thing. If we're choosing teams, I think the real team is "Kang family, including Mok Ha" versus "psycho dad." I agree that romance isn't the main point of this drama, although I really do feel the chemistry between BG and MH and assume they will still find a way to grow their relationship, despite the creepy stalker dad and the hot and cold diva unni and all the other issues going on.
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Lelly19
November 22, 2023 at 3:41 AM
>> real team is "Kang family, including Mok Ha"
Yes to this!!
And I love BG and MH a lot too!! I just feel like there is not enough focus on them in a romantic way (...yet?) and I wish there was more ahah!
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rlg07
November 22, 2023 at 3:30 PM
I think now that they aren't throwing red herrings at us anymore, there may be more moments with them together. I admit I would like to see them finish what they started...!
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2 lapislazulii
November 21, 2023 at 2:22 PM
I won’t lie, I feel like the show isn’t sparkling as brightly as it did for me in the first few eps - I’m enjoying it heaps still but this week has me left a little wanting on several fronts:
- Ran-joo; I was kind of really mad at her after ep 8, because I get being upset after Mok-ha did a runner but felt like she was being a bit too cruel and stubborn in not giving Mok-ha a chance to explain. After simmering down though, I’m now thinking that maybe she’s pulling a noble idiot and is being cold to Mok-ha to motivate her/so that she’ll focus on her career and not Ran-joo’s?
- The ‘love triangle’ (?) - I think we're on the same page with this one @quirkycase! I was staunchly on team Ki-ho but low-key this week made me shift to team Woo-hak purely because he’s actually been there and has been connecting more with Mok-ha than Bo-gyeol has. Plus - minus the hug and the fireplace performance - feels like she’s been connecting more/leaning more on Woo-hak too.
- Feels like Mocha’s character arc has been pushed to the background a bit, because she’s been doing things but she’s also not really doing anything you know? I get she’s a superman but like she’s a little too devoted to Ran-joo. Then again, having been in the K-pop circle for a while now, the level of devotion isn’t that unrealistic I suppose. Idk how to express it properly, but she’s coming across a little one note and just being pushed around by the plot rather than actually driving the plot herself :(
There’s four more episodes to go, so I’m interested to see how the plot resolves because while some things seem straightforward now - like Mok-ha finally debuting etc. - other plot points, like how they’ll deal with the dad and also whatever is going on in terms of ‘love lines’, seem like they're a little undercooked still!
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lapislazulii
November 21, 2023 at 2:23 PM
Mocha 🤦♀️ ah autocorrect hahahah *Mok-ha and also *super fan not superman
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LT is Irresistibly Indifferent and reminded of the slow march of death
November 22, 2023 at 4:06 PM
Oh no I'm totally calling her Mocha from now on. Best autocorrect.
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vienibenmio
November 21, 2023 at 2:29 PM
I think the Ran-joo makes sense because it's not just a normal fandom thing, it's trauma-related. She used her as escapism and coping all of these years--not easy to let that go
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lapislazulii
November 21, 2023 at 2:37 PM
Oh that's a great point, I didn't think of it like that!
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Asha13
November 21, 2023 at 2:55 PM
I was thinking RJ was that way to motivate MH what to come out of her shadow and shine too
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too_much_tv
November 21, 2023 at 4:35 PM
Yes! Ran-joo is a noble idiot. That's because the main romance of this show is between Mok-ha and Ran-joo. There are also these adorable brothers, yes yes, OK. I love Ki-ho, he's a wonderful person, but Mok-ha's first love from the time she was five was Ran-joo. Ki-ho is noble and has already shown he will lay down his life for Mok-ha, allowing her father to beat him in her place. He's the endgame, but the plot is about a different love story.
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3 Violabelle
November 21, 2023 at 2:22 PM
I also found the switch from Woo-hak to Bo-geol as Ki-ho quite confusing/jarring and agree that adult Bo-geol and Mok-ha don't have great chemistry whereas they did as children. Curious to see if the drama will take the unusual step of putting Mok-ha and Woo-hak together instead. That would certainly break with tradition(!) but they seem much better together on-screen.
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lapislazulii
November 21, 2023 at 2:26 PM
I'm kind of hoping they do take that unconventional path! I'm maybe deluding myself into thinking there's a strong chance they will because they haven't had any scenes so far that show Mok-ha as being interested like that in Bo-gyeol. Even her rejection of the idea when Woo-hak asked seemed more like natural 'no' than a 'flustered oh gosh I have to cover up feelings' kind of 'no'.
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vienibenmio
November 21, 2023 at 2:31 PM
I think WH has feelings for her but I do NOT want them to end up together.
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emsel
November 21, 2023 at 8:10 PM
See that's the problem with this writer. Most clearly know who is SML and ML, but this writer will develope the relationship between SML and FL to get the buzz with romance going because that is all what people care about. Not in one of her dramas the SML ends with FL, so if this drama is to be an exception, the writer will make everyone stay friends, but 99% I can see Moh Ka end up with Bo Gyeol. That open confession puts end to all questions on love triangle.
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Semma Vetti
November 21, 2023 at 11:07 PM
I did not see startup, but if this is a thing, the writer is cruel.
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Samdong
November 27, 2023 at 2:53 PM
I might be biased since I love most of this PHR's drama, but I don't see her tendency to paint SML in such a favorable way a problem. Romance was never the only think you get from her dramas, there's always this warmth, idealism, personal growth (which usually incl healthy communication and vulnerabilities) in her stories which keeps me coming back for more. It's a shame that during Startup people starts to focus more on the romance (and how the Netflix marketing team focus on Teams as well). The fanwars truly ruin my experience. Was kinda glad that the marketing for this drama did not delve too much into the love triangle
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LT is Irresistibly Indifferent and reminded of the slow march of death
November 22, 2023 at 4:07 PM
Or maybe.. just maybe... she doesn't have to be romantically paired with either...
I know, I know, that's crazy.
Don't want to start the revolution over here or anything
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4 vienibenmio
November 21, 2023 at 2:23 PM
Ohh man, you and I are quite different. I am hardcore shipping Bo-geol and Mok-ha. When he said he knew her from middle school my mouth dropped. When he touched her face I gasped. I have rewatched the scenes of him calling her "Mok-ha-ya" and compilations of him just looking at her with sheer adoration in his eyes more than is healthy. I have a serious problem.
As my paragraph alludes to, I love this drama so much. I am obsessed. I watch the episodes and they're over, but I can't move on emotionally. I've been reading Twitter and MDL and you name it. I'm so happy that they resolved the Ki-ho mystery and now CJH is able to smile (and what a smile that is! He's like a different person. It's magical.) I wish that we could see even more of his POV during past events, but oh well.
Ran-joo is really her own worst enemy. She hurts people before they can hurt her, it seems. I'm glad that the old lady is not her in the future, even if medically a dementia patient thinking that they are actually their grown child doesn't sound realistic. I wish Mok-ha would at least try to explain her situation, because while she said there is no excuse, I don't really agree with that. It's a VERY good excuse!
Shoutout to the "adoptive" father, who is an all-around awesome guy. I think he should have had more of a plan beyond "eh, it's been twenty years," but hey.
The writing on this show is so well crafted. I loved the epilogue scene and how it was a double entendre, it was just so clever. And sweet. If I have any complaints about ep 8, it's that we didn't get enough Bo-geol/Mok-ha scenes. Lol.
And, finally, the music! I'm still listening to "Night and Day" on repeat (send help), but I'm alternating with Kassy's OST track, the latest Ran-joo song, and a few other songs.
That snitch on Chunsam is the worst. Is he in love with the father or something? What is his deal?
I think that Woo-hak likes Mok-ha but not very seriously, and he's trying to hide it. I appreciate that he's wingmanning for his brother and trying to put his emotions aside. I feel for you, WH, but to quote someone on Reddit: this is one thing of your brother's that you can't copy.
I feel like I'm forgetting things to say so I may add replies later if I think of something.
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lapislazulii
November 21, 2023 at 2:28 PM
Yes adoptive dad!! He seems like a ray of sunshine (and in contrast, like you said, the Chunsam dad & son duo are so annoying omg).
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Britney
November 21, 2023 at 4:56 PM
Bo Geol really has been just watching her so nicely in the background; with such affection even if he was more standoffish initially.
It's kinda interesting how when Woo Hak thought he was Ki Ho, he felt this guilt and responsibility over Mok Ha which is why he brought her to the house in the first place.
Bo Geol *actually* being Ki Ho, felt relief over her being alive but then he wanted to maintain distance so not to somehow impact his family (I think; I'm not 100% sure why he was hot & cold haha) and to be fair, he was kinda right. As soon as the father learned Mok Ha survived, he instantly sought her out which brought him in contact with Woo Hak. Only surviving grace is that neither abusive dad or Woo Hak recognized each other.
I wonder if it will be shown how abusive dad found the salon. Was he tracking Mok Ha?
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ar_arguably romantic
November 21, 2023 at 5:06 PM
I think he looked through the bee-stung friend's dashcam footage to find every location that friend visited?
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Britney
November 21, 2023 at 7:45 PM
The friend wouldn't have visited him; at least I don't think so but I guess we shall see if that's revealed.
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ar_arguably romantic
November 21, 2023 at 5:03 PM
Thank you for the shoutout to our Kang papa! He went above and beyond to protect a woman he barely knew and protected those boys. I loved that scene of him and Bo-geol at the salon where he was like "I'll protect this family", realized he was much shorter than Bo-geol, and then tippy-toed to get taller. And the Bo-geol crouches down a bit so he wouldn't be so tall. I replayed that scene so many times. It's so freaking cute and heartwarming.
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Kafiyah Bello
November 21, 2023 at 5:40 PM
All of this!!!
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DancingEmma
November 21, 2023 at 8:10 PM
I don’t want to rain on your parade as your devotion to this drama is moving to me but the writing could have been better as PEB’s characterisation should have been much more nuanced and carefully realised. She is such an exceptional actor that I can’t imagine she has made the decisions about her exaggerated accent, gestures, walk solely by herself.
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vienibenmio
November 22, 2023 at 6:00 AM
Yeah, that is one of my complaints about it, actually. But I mean the writing of each episode, and how each episode has a theme that ties back to Mok-ha's experience on the island. There is also a lot of parallel structure that I simply love, especially between Mok-ha/Ki-ho and Mok-ha/Bo-geol. I can overlook the weird choices they're making for Mok-ha because of that.
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Unaspirated
November 21, 2023 at 8:27 PM
I couldn’t agree more with all of this!
Re: Ran-joo issue, I think you’re right. Probably she has felt so abandoned by her manager/talent agency and by her fans that she is super emotionally scarred from that. So now she pushes Mok-ha away big time so that she can’t leave her one day too.
I agree the mom thinking she’s her own daughter is not super realistic, but I was more incredulous at the mom just wheeling herself right out of her care facility! With dementia patients who are bound to be confused, they better get their security together!
Also 100% agree about the soundtrack. Definitely one of the best this year (at least).
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Lelly19
November 22, 2023 at 5:59 AM
Yes!! I gasped with that line about middle school classmates!! Like "oh?? So we're actually doing this right now!!" ..that's what I thought at that moment! xD
I actually love how we kept getting crumbs about Bogeol being Kiho even before he openly told her "I am Kiho"!
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vienibenmio
November 22, 2023 at 6:02 AM
Yeah--I feel like people who thought that Woo-hak was Ki-ho weren't really paying attention to the same level that we were (which is fair given my level of obsession, lol)
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5 stberry
November 21, 2023 at 2:38 PM
I may be in a minority here, but I like episode 8 more than episode 7. I was a little disappointed with the reunion being ruined by the writer’s insistence on playing the shipping game, but episode 8 really made up for it. Come to think of it, I’m not sure I completely satisfied with where the plot is going, but there were a lot of moments that I liked and kept me interested. TBH, MH and KH are too cute and precious for me to give up on them.
This week I thought I would try a new approach, listing out my favorite quotes and moments in these two episodes.
1. WH: “Drive-through” // MH: “S-ru?” // WH: “It’s “th”, not "s.".
WH has never been more likeable; I love seeing him be the big brother to BG and the funny, chaotic best friend to MH. I really enjoyed his character in episode 8.
2. WH: “Did you think Bo-geol and I would’ve had a nasty fight over a girl?” // Angel Dad: “It’s possible to imagine such a thing.”
I’m still gonna ignore the obvious implication that WH has feelings for MH (I still don’t understand how that contributes to the story), but I can’t deny that the scene where his parents asked him if he liked MH was utterly delightful. It’s like the whole family is aware of the “love triangle” going on, and watching each of them have different reactions to it was hilarious. Parents exchanged sneaky glances and stumbled around with their words, trying to talk to their son about it. The eldest son retaliated with overboard exasperation, while the youngest (very much in character) just nonchalantly admitted his feelings out loud, no beating around the bush.
3. Angel Dad: “Protecting someone isn’t about how big you are. It’s about your heart.”
Speaking of this adorable family, that little scene between BG and his stepfather was definitely my favorite scene this week. The way Dad just went along with BG’s request to take away all family photos from the shop, no question asked; the way BG crouched down to match Dad’s height? BG little boyish grin filled with adoration towards Dad? Absolutely precious. I also saw a comment on Reddit pointing out that BG's (ugly) hairstyle resembles that of his stepfather. Like, how sweet is that? He probably wants to look like his dad.
4. Ranjoo: “It’s your fans who suffer if you don’t do well."
I love Ranjoo for saying this; it is nice to know there are people in the entertainment world who get this. Fan culture is almost always too toxic, but I’d like to think that at least there are artists who value their fans this way and that sometimes affection between artists and fans can be mutual, healthy, and balanced. I always thought MH idolized RJ too much (to the point of committing fraud for her); some conflicts may do some good to their relationship. RJ learned this week that their relationship is a two-way street, and I was quite proud of her for being willing to sacrifice her own needs for MH’s sake. Similarly, MH needs to understand that RJ is a normal human being with flaws and...
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stberry
November 21, 2023 at 2:40 PM
Similarly, MH needs to understand that RJ is a normal human being with flaws and insecurities, and their relationship can’t always be sunshine and roses.
I really, really like Ranjoo, only good things for her please. I liked her before, but the reveal about her mother really put a lot of things about her into perspective. Years after her fall from grace, Ranjoo was found being kicked out of the rented basement by her fans. But her elderly mother is now still living in a fancy facility. Suddenly, we understood what is at stake for her, it’s not just about fame and glory, it’s hers and her mother’s entire livelihood on the line. And she was willing to risk it all just to give MH a chance. I get why she’s so angry. After years of struggling to make ends meet, dealing with vocal nodules all by herself, being abused and betrayed by people around her, of course she would react strongly to MH decision to quit. MH did took off mere hours after promising to not betray RJ. MH had her reasons, but unfortunately for her, it was going to take more than saying sorry to gain RJ’s trust back.
5. BG: “What kind of lunatic searches 15 years for someone he’s uninterested in?”
I feel like the moment MH told BG there was no way he was KH, a switch was flipped inside BG. Once he decided that he wasn't going to lie anymore, he really meant no more lies. The boy is done hiding, it’s all out in the open for him, and now all bets are off. He’s going to say his feelings out loud and head straight into danger rather than waiting for it to eventually find him. I’m equally delighted and terrified, but it’s better this way, at least we get to see him smile a lot.
6. MH: Praying won’t bring miracles. But you still pray because you need that resolve.
7. And my personal favorite:
- WH: Do you still have those feelings? // MH: Goodness. Not at all.
- Also, MH to BG : You see (*touching her hair*) I personally don’t like men who look at such things.
Sure girl, I believe you, you don’t have any of *those* feelings 🤭
MH and BG are next-level cute; as soon as the secret was out, they immediately settled into comfortable familiarity that only longtime friends would have, but somehow still maintained that awkward awareness that there were other types of *feelings* floating around.
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stberry
November 21, 2023 at 2:40 PM
CJH is a gift from God; he, with the dazzling smiles, the soulful puppy eyes, and the tiny little micro-expressions, was the star of this week to me.
CJH’s smile has always been precious, but I didn’t realize how PRECIOUS it was until it was kept away from me halfway through the drama. It felt like he’s trying to make it up to me by flashing that million-watt smile every chance he gets this week. There were happy smiles, beaming smiles, cheeky smiles, shy smiles—damn it, the sun was shining all over the place! His parents were right; we’re willing to do just about anything so we can see that smile. I was melting the entire time.
Not only his smile, but his voice, his face, and his entire person were also incredible. He emoted so well, with so many emotions. In every scene he was in, I had to rewind at least once just to let whatever magic he was doing with his face sink in. When we finally get to see his actual reaction when he found her? The way he was able to convey so much—the mix of happiness, relief, and heartbreak—with so little time floored me. His melo eyes whenever he looked at her with so much love and adoration killed me. How could anyone root for MH to end up with anyone other than him after watching his performance? It’s simply impossible, imo. He deserves so much better than this script, though. The decision to hide all of that away for 6 EPISODES was criminal; they should be sued for it. It’s quite ironic that he, as an actor, had to hide all of his charms behind the stoic façade, which mirrored exactly the way his character had to conceal his entire identity. Now that the drama no longer holds his character and his skills as an actor back, there’s no stopping him anymore, so better late than never, I guess.
Please excuse my fangirling; I just love CJH so much. He caught my eye the moment he showed up in Stove League, and he has been consistently getting better and better as an actor in every project I’ve seen him in. I really, really hope he gets many good roles in the future and never stops acting. The guy is seriously talented.
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stberry
November 21, 2023 at 2:41 PM
I also like how they highlight the different ways the brothers treated MH, which really reflects the differences in their personalities. WH, as the soft-hearted big brother, was constantly worried and always tried to support MH as much as possible. And BG, as the savaged one, despite the next-level devotion he’s shown for her in the past 15 years, never felt the need to hold her hands every step of the way. He trusts that if she can get herself a new phone, an email address, and a new driver license, then she can handle herself fine. And he was right; MH is someone who survived alone on a deserted island; she may lack some social skills, but she’s no fool, and like BG, I firmly believe she’s fully capable of taking care of herself. However, I do wish there’s more to MH as a character than being strong and resilient.
Which brings me to the next point:
The unfortunate state of SMH as a character:
Personally, I don’t have any problem with the way PEB portrays Mokha, I actually thought the character falling flat is not her fault. She has clearly been putting so much effort into playing her, and we know that she’s an incredibly talented and diverse actress. It’s the script’s problem. It seems to me that even though MH is the center of the story, she isn’t the one in control of it, most of the time it felt like she only reacting to whatever happens to her, whatever other characters tell her to do. She’s not the one calling the shots. This is the problem I had with most of PHR’s dramas. Sometimes she just spends way too much time taking care of the male characters that she neglects her female counterparts. It was fine when her male characters are the center of the story (like LJS in Pinocchio), but not for a show where PEB shows up alone in most promotion materials. Her last memorable female character, imo, was Park Bo Young’s in IHYV, who was the center of that drama, which aired 10 years ago!
Both PEB’s MH and Suzy’s Dalmi suffer from the same fate of being the glorified accessories for the MLs’ development. Hell, even RJ as the 2nd FL is a more interesting character than MH. PEB playing MH is literally the only reason she isn’t being overshadowed by other characters.
I love KH/BG, I really do, but the fact that I can wax poetic about him for hours in a show called “Castaway Diva”, when I barely have anything to say about the titular character, is a fundamental problem in and of itself.
With that said, I do appreciate the drama’s theme of loved ones trying their best to protect each other. BG of course spends his whole life dedicating to protect his family and MH, WH is of course trying to do what he can to protect MH and his family, and as we’ve learned this week, RJ is also spending all her life protecting and caring for her mother. MH is of course has be doing everything she’s done to protect RJ, and now she’s having even more motivations to become a famous singer so she can protect KH and his family, so hopefully there are still...
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stberry
November 21, 2023 at 2:42 PM
so hopefully there are still opportunities for MH to be taking a more active role in determining her own life trajectory.
Lastly, regarding the plot progression:
BG baby, I know you think you don’t have a choice. Evil Dad’s not going to give up until he finds you, he won’t stop at hurting people until he gets to you, so you may as well come to him first. It has always been your go-to strategy to jump in front of danger before it eventually found you. You’re planning to take a beating so you can have grounds to report him later. Sure, I get it. But shouldn’t you find a lawyer first? Surely a lawyer can come up with a less risky solution to help you?
Sigh, that outfit he wore at the end there was top tier, he looked so good, it’s a shame that he’s gonna get beaten in it 😢
ginkoVal
November 21, 2023 at 11:11 PM
Thank you @stberry, for your insightful analysis, It perfectly captures the sentiments I've been struggling to articulate. Although I am madly in love with CJH and his character, there's an element missing in the show that I couldn't quite pinpoint. Even after the emotional Ep7 and 8, I was still not satisfied, and your observation about the absence of SMH as a titular character has enlighten me.
100% agree on Lee Bo-young’s (not Park Bo-young ^ ^) in IHYV 10 years ago, the most sassy, unforgettable female character of Park Hye-ryun’s shows. I need something more from the titular character Seo Mok-ha in this Diva show, I want her to be smart, wild and more than just a musical talent. Both young and adult MH are portrayed as smart and somewhat naïve but never foolish, and I really want a quirky side to her character. As someone has pointed out, a touch of wildness seems fitting for someone who survived 15 years in solitude with no social interaction. With 4 episodes remaining, I hope we get to explore more facets of her.
And of course, the romance with the radiantly smiling boy Ki-ho. No complaints about that.
Lelly19
November 22, 2023 at 5:56 AM
I agree that Seo Mokha could have been written more interestingly, though I sort of disagree with the specifics of that.
I don't know if I'd go as far as call her an accessory, just that her own story doesn't have substance as much as the other characters' stories do imo, and not just the MLs, but even Ranjoo, for example.
Because of the happenings of the past (including the 15 years on the island) MH now has no family, no friends (aside from Kiho), no real job..her main goal is becoming a singer, and she's been working towards that too, but that's all there is.
Considering that Kiho has been found and she's achieved her dream of meeting her idol, I guess now the drama should focus more on her road to becoming a proper singer. If that's what she still wants lol! Either way, I hope she'll be able to find her own path in the end! ^^
Jingbee
November 21, 2023 at 3:18 PM
Was he the young pitcher in Stove League? He caught my eye too but did not immediately connect it to CJH.
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ginkoVal
November 21, 2023 at 4:08 PM
Yes, that's beyond my understanding, how could anyone not see LOVE and adoration in his eyes after watching him? Let's me join you to rave about my latest obsession: the sunshine Chae Jong-hyeop. Oh goodness, I’m falling hard for him. His smile is reminiscent of the charming and boyish Gong Yoo, my very first K-actor crush. I must say, CJH possesses the most enchanting smile in the K-film industry.
So I first noticed him with his supporting role in 'Siphysus' where he acted along Park Shin-hye. I had actually seen 'Hot Stove League' before 'Siphysus,' but I didn't notice him then. The turning point was 'Siphysus'—I was so captivated by his performance that I wondered if he was one of the main leads. Unfortunately, I dropped 'Siphysus' at episode 4, so I didn't follow him. Thank you Castaway Diva, for me to meet him again.
Although he didn’t have much screen time in episode 1 and 2 but this time he immediately drew me in, there were Bogeol's silent actions and his eyes. Oh my, this young man; his eyes effortlessly tell the entire story. During the wait from week 1 until now, I managed to binge-watch his other shows: ‘Unlock My Boss’ and ‘Love All Play.’ This boy has serious acting chops, and his radiate smiles illuminate the entire narrative, while his eyes seem to write love letters whenever he looks at the girl he has been searching for 15 years. I'm sure he is getting bigger roles in the future, he is simply talented.
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ginkoVal
November 21, 2023 at 4:15 PM
typo: "Sisyphus"
vienibenmio
November 22, 2023 at 6:46 AM
"his eyes seem to write love letters whenever he looks at the girl he has been searching for 15 years." - I love this! So well put
Goyangi and the Camel Crickets
November 21, 2023 at 3:54 PM
Yes, thanks for reminding me! I also loved the scene with BG and his stepfather! Trying to change their heights, wonderful. Though unrelated to the sons, THIS man knows how to be a father.
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DancingEmma
November 21, 2023 at 8:20 PM
MH’s scene with the parents was such a lovely mixture of deflection, adorable crankiness and implied love for his brother. I loved N so much in that scene. He has been such a great discovery for me.
I have a complaint about the offensive PPL for that coffee shop chain that has culturally appropriated a woman of colour’s drawing to profit from when the owners are solely Korean. I just am amazed how that kind of deliberate misuse can still go on in SK.
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6 stberry
November 21, 2023 at 2:56 PM
Although, I have to disagree with the recapper, the “switch” was never jarring, majority of viewers already saw it coming, just look at the boys’ personality was enough to see it pretty clearly. I do agree that they shouldn’t have pushed WH that hard to the point of overshadowing BG. But then again, KH has such a strong connection with MH in the past, if they didn’t try to push WH in the first few episodes, he would never stand a chance against his brother. Which, again, just confusing and annoying to me, because the love triangle they are trying to push adds nothing to the story, it only drives audience away.
As if the audience don’t have enough complains with the fact that she’s survive 15 years on a deserted island (which I thought we’ve already established as completely unrealistic in the first 2 weeks, I don’t understand how there are still complains at this point 😅)
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vienibenmio
November 21, 2023 at 2:59 PM
I didn't find it jarring at all, either
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Jingbee
November 21, 2023 at 3:39 PM
Not to me. It was obvious to me that BG was Ki ho from ep 2. I was also annoyed when the show tried so hard to prolong this Kiho mystery and I almost dropped it because of that.
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ar_arguably romantic
November 21, 2023 at 5:18 PM
I was always open to KH being either one of the boys, so it wasn't jarring for me either. I felt the writer laid enough groundwork for either one being KH - not just Woohak. Though for the audience, it leaned more in BG's favor because Chae Jong Hyeop is the drama's male lead and young Ki-ho was pretty much trauma-bonded with young Mok-ha. I didn't care much who was who. I just wanted Mok-ha to find her friend safe again and be able to sleep without worries.
I don't feel the love triangle as much now. Mok-ha hasn't built a special bond with Woo-hak, and I think Woo-hak planning to ask Mok-ha to give up her dream (understandably) already sort of pushes him out of the running as the endgame.
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Unaspirated
November 21, 2023 at 8:43 PM
I agree, it wasn’t jarring at all for me. I was 97-99% confident who Ki-ho was pretty much immediately, so I assumed they were pushing Woo-hak on us as a red herring. I also really didn’t like Woo-hak in episode two, I thought it was pretty shady to take advantage of Mok-ha for her story like that, so even if I hadn’t been confident he was not Ki-ho, I really would have wished he wasn’t. Sometimes a childhood connection feels dropped in for no reason, but in this drama it’s an actual relationship that they had in the past that was meaningful and impactful for both of them, so if the writer (by some horrible twist of fate) has Mok-ha end up with Woo-hak, this will be among the most disappointing dramas of the year for me. #teambogeol
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Jingbee
November 22, 2023 at 12:39 AM
Childhood connection : i normally scoff at this trope but you are right that in this drama the relationship was already meaningful to begin with and thus for that to be ignored is actually going to be the jarring outcome instead.
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pliplipli
November 21, 2023 at 9:43 PM
I swear, anyone who has watched a couple of kdramas could tell which actor would be adult kiho. I don't get how so many people got confused to be very honest. even if you don't consider the practical side like the cast, the writing has always been more inclined to CHJ than N as kiho. it wasn't jarring at all.
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vienibenmio
November 22, 2023 at 6:05 AM
Yeah, I don't really understand how people really thought that Woo-hak was Ki-ho. There were soooo many signs that it was Bo-geol. Maybe it was wishful thinking?
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Jingbee
November 22, 2023 at 7:30 AM
Or maybe a bias towards N.. which is understandable. Sometimes I wonder too if CJH played Woohak, would I be confused, too? Though I had been very sure since ep 2 because of the montage of him waiting at the train station and the stark contrast of WH's personality from KH.
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pliplipli
November 22, 2023 at 7:43 AM
I don't think is a bias towards N but more toward the character. they just like woohak more.
if CHJ was cast as woohak, that character would be the romantic pair bcs he's the lead actor anyway. CHJ wouldn't be cast to be a second lead to N. not at this point in their careers. With all the promo stuff, interviews, you can clearly see he's the main guy.
vienibenmio
November 22, 2023 at 8:36 AM
@jsourgod that's why, when I learned about this drama, I went out of my way to find out who the ML was before I started watching it. I refused to have another Start Up! The hilarious thing is I didn't even realize this was the Start Up writer; if I had known, that would have made my resolve even stronger.
Lelly19
November 22, 2023 at 6:08 AM
>> "But then again, KH has such a strong connection with MH in the past, if they didn’t try to push WH in the first few episodes, he would never stand a chance against his brother."
Exactly this!!! Like, I was sure BG was KH but at the same time I think it was still ok for the writer to be a bit vague to make the mystery work for a few episodes at least! xD
(there was an attempt, I guess ahahah)
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vienibenmio
November 22, 2023 at 6:18 AM
See, I thought that BG being so in the background and there being so many obvious indicators of WH being Ki-ho was actually a sign of him being Ki-ho. No way would the drama reveal that much so early on. It's like whenever there's a serial killer storyline and they keep showing and hinting at one character, you KNOW it can't be that character. And less focus on BG meant that they had far more cards about him to reveal later on.
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7 Goyangi and the Camel Crickets
November 21, 2023 at 3:16 PM
Thank you for the recap! I look forward to reading it.
I love Ki Ho's sincere honesty. Woo Hak asks do you still have feelings for each other, and Ki Ho replies yes, I do.
Ki Ho arranged his life around Mok Ha's dream. Meeting with Ran Joo. Searching the islands for her. Visiting the meeting place. And choosing a career in the music industry. More recently, he was quietly working to keep her safe. And awwww his daydream of finding her, and the ocean setting for Mok Ha's debut!! All the feels. With their original plan to run away from their fathers, Ki Ho must have also thought this would be ok for both of them once he found his family again.
I love Eun Bin's voice! They all needed some stress free happy time away, and it was thoughtful of Woo Hak to set the camping plan in motion. Ki Ho smiled!! This family is so kind to one another, and now they've enfolded Mok Ha into their lives.
Ran Joo's mom is funny!! She's great. I'm so glad she was not actually Ran Joo as the timeline is recent so setting up her distant future seemed odd. I don't know what Ran Joo has experienced in her past aside from the issues at RJ Entertainment but I hope we're given some explanation for her giving up on the company share. She should be more sympathetic toward Mok Ha.
What is Ki Ho's plan regarding evil dad? With the statute of limitations run out, does he think getting beat up again would open a new case? Is he thinking to sacrifice himself to keep evil dad away from the rest of his family?
And I really really hate the nosy Gladys Kravitz island neighbor!!! Ugh I find his blabbing to evil dad about everything - for years!! - so obnoxious. He blamed Ki Ho for the break up of his family, completely ignored the abuse, AND stole Mok Ha's home without any compensation!! The man is a selfish ignoramus. The original Gladys Kravitz was annoying but she didn't cause anyone injury.
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john
November 21, 2023 at 3:41 PM
And I really really hate the nosy Gladys Kravitz island neighbor!!! The man is a selfish ignoramus.
He is terrible. Of course he blabbers away to Dad.
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ar_arguably romantic
November 21, 2023 at 5:21 PM
Ki Ho did look up how many years he would get in prison for patricide....so seems like one of his options is just to kill his dad.
I hate the neighbor. He barely spared any time blabbering away. Though that's what Ki-ho expected and wanted anyways...though I knew his police dad would be able to see the ploy right away.
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Britney
November 21, 2023 at 5:48 PM
I think he confronted him just to see what exactly he wants since he can't really force everyone to live with him and be a family
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pliplipli
November 21, 2023 at 9:45 PM
it was a bit hilarious how moka thought he was watching some nasty videos and gave him a lecture but he was researching the sentence for killing his dad lol
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Britney
November 21, 2023 at 5:43 PM
Oh yeah! Maybe Ki Ho would've wanted her to stay with his family since she wouldn't have known anyone in Seoul.
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latebloomer
November 21, 2023 at 8:00 PM
I'm not sure what Ki-ho/Bo-geol's plan was, but I'm betting that Woo-hak is going to help get evil dad arrested for the near-murder of the high school friend/insurance salesman. Hopefully he will go to jail for a long time.
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8 Britney
November 21, 2023 at 3:17 PM
I'm obsessed with this show. I look forward to it each week and sometimes I feel kinda defensive about it (?) Like when I see criticisms, I think how are we even watching the same show.
Abusive dad gives me such murder/suicide vibes. In the beginning, an extremely small part of me thought maybe possibly the reason he's so determined to find Ki Ho (and/or the rest of the family) is because he's been regretful over the past 15 years and wanted to apologize. That was until all the ominous creepiness and the box of hornets. Now the only thing I can think is his end goal is having his family back with him no matter what, even if it means death. As I write it, it seems too dark for the show and yet this is also the show that featured child abuse and hornet staged attacks so I don't know. Abusive dad is obsessive and possessive and when he's gently carassing the photo of his family, you could be tricked into thinking he's being wistful and he really does love them but the guy has a twisted idea of love.
For the best idea and example of love, we have Angel Dad. I saw so many times how Bo Geol is "goals" and he's "raising the standard of ideal type" and it's thinking there needs to be posts like that about angel dad. This guy was so selfless and compassionate. He uprooted and changed his whole life to help a random woman and her kids. Then he became a dad to those kids. Just giving them all love and support. I appreciated his scenes with Woo Hak and Bo Geol all the more after the reveal. (Sidenote when he got on his tip toes and Bo Geol lowered himself as they said they would protect the family, instant smile! Haha. That was so sweet)
I've seen many a drama and/or webtoon where the mother leaves the family due to domestic violence and I just have to ask, is it hard for domestic violence victims or just people in general to try to get a divorce? I know that the "wronged" party has to be the one to file but there must be a reason why more people seemingly choose to just leave rather than take that step. We assume the mother has tried getting/wanted help from the police but it likely didn't/couldn't go anywhere since abusive dad was a police officer. Would his police officer status also prevent her from filing for divorce?
I never understood Woo Hak's identity crisis because he had a loving family and a good job and seemingly everything was fine but then again, I've never been lied to or rather felt like I'm constantly being lied to or gaslit (well, not in this way). Maybe it *would* cause complicated feelings. It kinda saddened me when Woo Hak called angel dad "abeoji" cause I think before he was calling him "appa". Maybe the change was due to feeling more grateful and respectful towards him but I missed the casual teasing closeness of the earlier interactions.
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vienibenmio
November 21, 2023 at 3:40 PM
I feel the same way, including being defensive of people criticizing it and wondering if we're watching the same show
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ar_arguably romantic
November 21, 2023 at 5:40 PM
Divorce can take awhile and it costs money to hire lawyers. I'm not sure if the mother had the sort of money to have a lawyer through what may be a multi-year process if one party refuses to divorce and there are kids involved.
And during that process, the abuse will continue. And at some point, you could die. Chae-ho could have died from that head injury.
I think with domestic abusers - doesn't matter if there is an official divorce or breakup, the violent partner will still insist on continuing to track down the victims and beat them in order to hold some sort of control over them.
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vienibenmio
November 21, 2023 at 6:21 PM
Yup, the most dangerous time for the partner is after they leave the relationship
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Britney
November 21, 2023 at 7:50 PM
@asianromance @vienibenmio it's really messed up how there was nothing they could do in the past and there's seemingly nothing they can do in the present.
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ar_arguably romantic
November 22, 2023 at 4:22 PM
Their only hope is to have him be arrested for attempted murder of Ki-ho's middle school friend.
As with everywhere else in the world and in any era, domestic violence isn't taken seriously as other types of violence even though victims are often women and children.
pliplipli
November 21, 2023 at 9:49 PM
I have a lot of criticism for this drama and I'm still here only bcs of park eunbin and chae jonghyeop. but I always ask if I'm watching the same show as some comments because to me this drama was never a "who is the husband" type of thing. not like reply 1988 did, for example. I dont get how people got so confused and, more than that, invested in anything different that bogeoul being kiho LOL
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Lelly19
November 22, 2023 at 6:13 AM
ahaha guilty here!! I am very defensive too!! oops ><
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9 Jingbee
November 21, 2023 at 3:31 PM
I beg to disagree on the chemistry between BG and MH, to me it sparks and while MH does not seem to realize it yet, its obvious she is affected by BG even before she knew that he is KH. Woohak is more of a bestie and their interactions are fun but no sparks there.
But I am with what other beanies said, there should be no shipping war here as this is not the crux of the story, there is so much more to tackle and besides it is pretty much determined who the OTP are.
I am more invested in MH's journey as a diva and her relationship with RJ. I want RJ to break away from RJ entertainment and start her own agency and sign up MH. Then Mo- rae too as I feel there this relationship also need repairing too and Mo rae can benefit from RJ mentoring her.
This is the time I am wishing there is a deus ex-machina to whisk away the awful dad.
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john
November 21, 2023 at 4:26 PM
I have suggested
a wild boar kills him
a flock of seagulls blind him
Mok-ha stabs him to death** with her fishing spear*.
Mok-ha’s Tour Bus hits him as he’s creeping around !
Open to any ideas. He doesn’t have to die.
He can beg for forgiveness, that would be a twist
*I think Mok-ha should display a hint of wildness in her character.
She did spend 15 years in solitary, that’s tougher than Shawshank Redemption !!
**Mok-ha’s trial could segue into Season 2
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Lord Cobol (Kdramas, like water, flow downhill)
November 21, 2023 at 5:20 PM
Just dump him on a deserted island?
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vienibenmio
November 21, 2023 at 5:21 PM
She ate her best friend's children!
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Mrs Buckwheat
November 21, 2023 at 6:36 PM
Thank you for making me laugh, that's hilarious.
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ginkoVal
November 21, 2023 at 7:09 PM
LOL, this :)
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Jingbee
November 21, 2023 at 5:56 PM
A callback to ep 1, there was a chase on the boat (possible with WH or BG) then awful Dad goes overboard.
Tattletale ahjussi tries to help and falls overboard too.
One of them does not survive, the other reaches the same castaway island (preferably the dad). He finds the seagull who is out for revenge. The seagull lures him into the hut with a potato , the dad was overjoyed to see those pretty umbrellas, he goes inside but the wild boar is waiting finally able to catch its prey.
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Lelly19
November 22, 2023 at 6:21 AM
AHAHAHAHAHAH
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10 Britney
November 21, 2023 at 3:42 PM
Bo Geol really does seem like he's had a weight lifted off his shoulders. He smiled so much haha.
It made me chuckle when he said if she felt like needed to do something, to give them money.
Mok ha : will money fix everything? Bo Geol: it's better than not having it.
It just made me chuckle and I thought it was a fun way for him to ask for her autograph & tell her to become successful so that the autograph is worth millions.
While I personally never thought of them as first loves or love on either side, I did like the way the show addressed it. Referring to it as fondess and deep feelings.
The scene of Mok Ha hearing how she sounded on the radio back then was the funniest scene of the week's episodes to me. I loved her cringing and embarrassed while Woo Hak was barely hiding his judgement and amusement haha.
The singing competition. Mo Rae was SO insecure about competing against Mok Ha and then she finds her fears & insecurities were valid. That made me kinda feel for her.
I liked that Ran Joo gave her some words of advice. Seems like that was the first time in a LONG time she has done that for her.
Seo Jin has some nerve to try to recruit Mok Ha after he wouldn't even give her the time of day because of her age. Now that the public is interested, she's no longer in her 30s?! Now there's a way of marketing her? I'm offended at his audacity. And then he was like "that was in the past" and just wants to move forward as if Mok Ha hasn't seen how he can turn on his artist.
I honestly didn't know who was gonna win the competition haha. I kept thinking was that someone's fantasy? Haha
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ar_arguably romantic
November 21, 2023 at 5:46 PM
When I watched young Mok-ha going into teenage fan-girl mode, I was not expecting them to have it on tape to replay that ridiculously embarrassing moment back 15 years later. LOL! Even though Mok-ha is still a die-hard fan of Ran-joo...15-year old Mok-ha's fangirling was too much for her.
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11 Unaspirated
November 21, 2023 at 3:56 PM
Mok-ha: This place is pretty much just like the deserted island.
Randos: *snap picture of her to upload on social media*
Yes, exactly the same, Mok-ha ;)
I’m so glad they didn’t drag out the secret any longer! Mok-ha was at least 90% of the way to being sure Bo-geol was Ki-ho anyway, but I was glad she did some accidental eavesdropping so that
Woo-hakno one could lie to her about it later. And now them together is everything! He smiles! We get to see heartbreakingly sweet flashbacks! We get confirmation that he was waiting for her and looking for her all along! He gives the most swoony-in-its-straightforwardness confession of all time! He ducks around behind the scenes to protect her from his dad! Love it. Love him. Love them. I just, I need a minute.On to less delightful things, Tattle-tailing Dad from the island restaurant is the absolute worst. What does he not understand about this situation? I know that Bo-geol went there on purpose because he knew the guy would immediately tell his dad, but still. The moment when Bo-geol looked up the sentences for patricide made my breath catch. I was fairly certain they weren’t actually going to go there, but I can understand why he would look it up in a moment of desperation. I loved the conversation between him and Mok-ha at the end though when it seemed at first like she was reprimanding him for looking at porn, but everything she said applied to what he was actually searching for also, and you could tell she pulled him back into reality and away from that idea.
I hope Mok-ha and Ran-joo can at least partially resolve their misunderstanding soon, instead of it becoming a more powerful typhoon. It’s a funny twist to have the old lady just think she is Ran-joo, instead of actually being her in the future, but jeez it was pretty unfair of that nursing home worker to put all the pressure of her mom’s condition on her. Like she hasn’t been trying at all for the past few years? Like she has very much control at all over what people write about her?
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vienibenmio
November 21, 2023 at 5:22 PM
I thought the desert island themed photoshoot idea was sooo distasteful, lol
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12 Britney
November 21, 2023 at 3:58 PM
I don't even know what to say about Ran Joo. On the one hand, I was kinda glad that she was being proactive about the future of her career but on the other hand, I didn't like how she treated Mok Ha; calling her a talentless girl who she was wasting her time on. Maybe I need to rewatch the scenes between Ran Joo and her mother to understand why Ran Joo would be *so* hurtful to Mok Ha when, for the most part, all she's done is give endless support and loyalty. It was like Ran Joo just instantly built this wall between them.
I think Ran Joo is in a complicated situation which kinda makes me feel for her. It's not easy aging in the entertainment industry and she feels alone plus she isn't at her best mentally or vocally. I wonder how she's going to change over the final 4 episodes.
I think there is something more with the manager. He seems needlessly defensive and petty towards Mok Ha. Maybe something shady has happened in the past? I think he had said something about people can or will do anything due to desperation. I wonder why he would've been desperate and what he has done or knows about.
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vienibenmio
November 21, 2023 at 4:04 PM
I feel like she hurt him in the past or something
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13 rlg07
November 21, 2023 at 4:17 PM
I felt the chemistry between Mok Ha and Bo Geol right from the first time he showed up on screen, so I didn't find it at all jarring to discover that he was, indeed, Ki Ho. He has all the same serious personality traits, even pushing Mok Ha to do things on her own, that Ki Ho had, and meanwhile Woo Hak has...glasses? I like Woo Hak, and I think he and Mok Ha will eventually settle into a delightful sibling relationship. I think the attempt to push some kind of serious love triangle is stretching it. (And more outside the drama than actually within it.)
I felt super relieved with the epilogue of ep 8, cause what was in that search history...no no no, Bo Geol, no! Even though Mok Ha had other guesses in mind, I feel that BG was actually promising not to do the thing he was searching online about. Whew.
I agree with a lot of the comments above mine, so I won't repeat the same. But the one thing I wanted to add was my thoughts on Ran Joo. Do agencies provide any kind of mental health support? Because they should. These people have all the same challenges and difficulties as everyone else, yet they have to go through it all in public, which just makes everything harder. I feel like Ran Joo desperately needs a good therapist who will help her regain confidence, deal with some of her addictions, and help her be on a bit more of an even keel emotionally. It seems like she's carrying quite a load, and needs some relief. It would also improve all her relationships, whether personal or professional. A gentle, bracing therapist would be so helpful. Alas, this is a drama and not real life, so I can only hope she can figure out a path that will lead to more happiness in her life.
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too_much_tv
November 21, 2023 at 6:57 PM
Her agency is her ex who is trying to rip her off and take all the profit from the agency they started together. So no, there isn't anyone to give her mental health support at her agency.
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rlg07
November 21, 2023 at 8:21 PM
Yes, well, her agency is definitely part of the problem! (But in real life...I would think it good if agencies could support their artists with mental health resources, just as they have legal resources/backing for their artists.)
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Goyangi and the Camel Crickets
November 22, 2023 at 11:43 PM
I agree. But this is also South Korea, and it seems like therapy is not yet widely accepted in their culture. Dramas are always sending people to the hospital for rest and fluids, but mental health care, not so much.
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14 RenOIshi
November 21, 2023 at 4:24 PM
My only qualm about this drama is that the real bits are too real to be fantasy and the fantasy bits are too unreal to be real. You know what I mean? It cannot be this easy for her to slide back into civilisation this quickly. That’s not real. 15 years all alone on a deserted island for a youngster to survive is too long. I don’t know. I’ll keep on going if I don’t stop now.
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Mrs Buckwheat
November 21, 2023 at 6:45 PM
I hear you.
How can you let your child return to an island with the abusive father and expect that child be able to deal with that on a daily basis and then also figure out a way to escape from the father, the island and find his way back to his mother and brother in Seoul when they have changed their names, addresses etc?
That's A LOT to ask of any traumatised child.
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Hanamana
November 22, 2023 at 5:14 AM
I think when he found his mother he was not a little kid anymore but a grown-up. And also the mother had hinted him how to find her.
From what we saw of Ki-ho from the start, he was just strong and smart and not really traumatized.
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vienibenmio
November 22, 2023 at 7:01 AM
He was traumatized, but he was in survival mode. I agree that mom put some unfair expectations on him, but I don't know what the alternative would have been--the drama is pretty clear that they couldn't have gone to the police.
Which makes me realize that I don't actually know: does Korea have agencies/shelters for victims of intimate partner violence?
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ar_arguably romantic
November 22, 2023 at 4:19 PM
He wasn't that grown. Chae-ho was probably hit in the fall and the family split apart in winter (since the father was transferred and Chae-ho was still unconscious). The mom wanted Ki-ho to find her during the spring. But he wasn't able to escape. He met Mok-ha in July. And finally made it to his mom in the Fall. So they were probably apart for a year.
I think he can be strong, smart, and traumatized, though that trauma doesn't interfere much with his day-to-day.
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15 sakuradaydream
November 21, 2023 at 4:28 PM
Ep 8's camping scene was so out of pocket, like poor mok-ha has been camping for 15 years let her stay indoors for once omg:')
Aside from that I LOVED ep 7 so so much. It was SO GOOD and I really enjoyed seeing Mokha in her idol era. AND THAT TRANSITION FROM YOUNG TO PRESENT KIHO SAYING ACTION ohmygod.
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vienibenmio
November 21, 2023 at 4:51 PM
Lol, right? Who wants to go camping after living in the wild for 15 years?
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Unaspirated
November 21, 2023 at 8:55 PM
I get this, but they were doing pretty extreme glamping, so it didn’t seem like it would be a traumatic callback to me. I imagine there were a lot fewer guitars, string lights, and family members on the island! It would be a shame if she now couldn’t enjoy being outside at all now that she doesn’t have to be 24/7!
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RenOIshi
November 21, 2023 at 4:52 PM
OMG YES!!! I watched it after I commented here and I was shaking my head in disbelief. don’t take her to the wilderness when she has been there for 15 years!!!
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Jingbee
November 22, 2023 at 7:19 AM
This 'wilderness' has a concrete road, the camping grounds is paved, the trees and grasses are trimmed, there is a roof covered playground in front, next to a what looked like a football field. There is a dishwashing area with running water and next to it seems to be bathroom and toilet stalls.
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ar_arguably romantic
November 21, 2023 at 5:51 PM
To be fair - the Kangs' idea of camping...as with all kdrama camping...is almost glamping. They brought some awesome stuff to grill. Just bring your plates to the communal sink. They hung fairy lights. Bet there are multiple power outlets near the tent.
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rlg07
November 21, 2023 at 8:22 PM
Lol, right? I have never been actual camping in a place where you could plug in fairy lights?
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Britney
November 22, 2023 at 9:37 AM
And it wasn't even so much about the camping per se, it was the experience. It was an experience Ki Ho had wanted to share with her which drove his determination to search for her. Woo Hak was doing something nice for both of them.
I just found it kinda funny/cool that Bo Geol already had some stuff in his car haha.
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Goyangi and the Camel Crickets
November 22, 2023 at 11:56 PM
Exactly. Camping is a special, happy tradition for this family. Sharing this experience with Mok Ha was important to Ki Ho. It was also another way to welcome her into their family. And, I bet they all usually keep some gear in their cars for the occasional impromptu camp out!
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16 Asha13
November 21, 2023 at 4:33 PM
I tend to make notes as I watch the show so I dont forget thoughts, so a lot of my comments tend to be disjointed, please forgive me.
I finally got the Ki Ho/Mok Ha hug. Felt bad for Chae Ho but loved it.
It was a little odd the way Ki Ho’s mom and her second husband got together. It was really quick and just “come. I will help you” “oh okay”. lol.
I liked how Ran Joo initially has misgivings about Mok Ha taking the stage but then makes peace with it. It would’ve been odd if she had been onboard right off the bat.
Loved Mok Ha’s take down of Yong-gwan. He’s such a little sh*t I wanted to see someone kneecap him but this will do I guess.
Ki Ho’s expression when Mok Ha won was exquisite. CJH really did a good job there. He does the Look of Love really well.
I like how they tell the story of the past in dribs and drabs. They filled in more gaps in what happened after Chae Ho was assaulted (which I was scratching my head about) and I was happy to see it was as many beanies said. You guys should become writers. Lol
Two words as far as the picnic: AH MAZING. it was awesome seeing the leads getting along, giggling together etc.
There was a conversation earlier about how Ran Joo was brutal with MH. My thought initially was that she was trying to motivate MH to strike out on her own and not tie herself to RJ. However, I was also thinking about how her mother was supposedly lucid when she heard good news about RJ, so she decided she needed to do well, have good stories written about her etc., and didnt have time to nurture MH?
I am always on Team Potato Boy, but I agree with beanies who said WH and MH had better chemistry.
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17 Slice-of-Life Dramatics
November 21, 2023 at 5:10 PM
I kind of didn't understand why Bo-gyeol switched stances so quickly, and the show didn't explain it much. He was the one desperately emphasizing to Woo-hak that their family would disintegrate if their identities were revealed. The immediate about-turn was jarring for me. While I understand he doesn't want Mok-ha to bury her dreams because of them, I would have thought there would be more of a process to let us see how he underwent his mental transition after having tried so desperately to keep their identities hidden for so long.
So therein lies my little gripe about the show, I feel like many scenes could have more character depth and development but the show just skipped them to show us an outcome... like showing how Ran-joo would have felt conflicted about owning up to the lip-syncing, how she handled her emotions and the aftermath, how Bo-gyeol went about his about-turn etc.
But I still love the show regardless.
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Asha13
November 21, 2023 at 5:28 PM
I think when he saw his father talk to MH, he realized that his father is close to finding them anyway. Also the fact that MH was giving up on a big dream to keep them safe, which would be moot anyway, caused him to change his mind and take the bull by the horns instead
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vienibenmio
November 21, 2023 at 5:29 PM
I think the change was well developed. That episode about lying as well as Mok-ha laying into him about being hot and cold
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18 vienibenmio
November 21, 2023 at 5:17 PM
Also, fellow Mok-ha and Bo-geol shippers, the CD fandom has given our couple a celebrity name: "MokGeolli"
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Kafiyah Bello
November 21, 2023 at 5:45 PM
That is ADORABLE and I love it.
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ginkoVal
November 21, 2023 at 7:15 PM
And to all 'MokGeolli' shipper, this one from Twitter, aka X.
I love it, ha ha.
"Exclusive by Dispatch: Seo Mok-ha, the castaway diva, caught on a secret date with her non-celebrity boyfriend"
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19 jillian
November 21, 2023 at 5:59 PM
I am glad that the Ki ho has been more expressive on his feelings. Mokha is definitely lucky to have him in her life. She also manages to acquire his lovely family as her protectors.
I sure hope we get more Ran Joo and Mokha scenes next week. As much as I like Bogeol, his story with his dad is too dark so I hope that willbe resolved soon. So we can focus more on our two divas.
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20 ar_arguably romantic
November 21, 2023 at 6:11 PM
So many moments that made my heart swell!
Bo-geol insisting on an ocean backdrop that is reminiscent of the video he filmed of young Seo Mok-ha and then the cut of young Kiho and Mokha before and during Mokha's debut performance - was my favorite! Also Kiho/Bo-geol imagining finding Mok-ha first was so sweet. I squealed with joy. I'm actually fine if this drama went romance-lite and don't have them get mutual feelings until the fine episode. Just feed me lots of Mok-ha and Bo-geol interactions!
There were also so many great moments involving our ladies. Mok-ha reassuring the ever insecure Ran-joo that she wouldn't betray her (though she really did eat those eggs...). Ran-joo looking at Mok-ha proudly and gently packing away her performance dress with a note. Ran-joo talking sincerely with Eun Mo-rae. And Eun Mo-rae's hug with her fan. I love how the female characters are so multi-faceted here.
And the Kang family is just so wonderful! I was surprised at how strong and brave the parents are. For some reason, I always thought that hiding and using fake identities was somehow Ki-ho's idea. But it was his mom who took the initiative.
The only thing I'm bummed about is that Bo-geol stopped volunteering to clean up the islands after he found Mok-ha. Please keep volunteering!
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vienibenmio
November 21, 2023 at 6:13 PM
Oh, I forgot to mention the ocean bg and the "if he found her as Ki-ho" scene and the island cleaning (AND her joined the Navy for her, too)! Ep 7 had me shrieking at the TV like I do when my dog does something cute
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21 Bunny Sonaki
November 21, 2023 at 7:30 PM
@quirkycase Thank you for the weecap. You have hit the nail on the head. As adults, the connection between Mok-ha and Woo-hak feels more natural perhaps like you said it is because the show focused more on him but I don't feel any romance between Mok-ha and Bo-geol.
Romance aside, I am confused about the necessity of the father's arc. It gives the brothers a story of their own aside from the love triangle but he is too infuriating to watch.
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22 Neolttwigi
November 21, 2023 at 7:55 PM
Things that stood out for me
Bo-geol/Ki-ho's smiles as he gets to be behind the camera as Mokha sings, just like 15 years ago. (And remember, he set up that ocean background 15 years ago as well)
Woo-hak giving Mok-ha a lift because ' Bo Geol left her alone'.. and then partway thru the drive feeling bad about it and telling her that Bo-Geol had Asked Him To do it. Yes, Woo-hak still has some feelings for her, but he is going to try to do his best for his brother.
The family all going camping together. A lot of people are saying ' She was camping for 15 years why would they do that' But I have been bushwalking a lot, and it makes perfect sense. Camping out where you have to be self sufficient and you are alone is Nothing Like what the family did. MokHa has to be having serious culture shock from all the societal changes, and all the people and noises around her in the city. Being in a calm controlled environment with people that she can trust for a weekend- that would have been so good for her mental well being.
Who exactly is Ran Joos mother? Woo Hak gets a phone call and is suprised about Ran-Joos mother. The drama is cut so we think the phone call is related to Ran Joos mother turning up at the house- but is that really true? I think there is some other secret regarding her Mom's identity.
Ran Joo is dark about getting involved with a married man. Is that because its a Bad Idea, or is there some history there? Was the head of RJ married when she got involved with him?
I think RJ is in a bad financial state. He is Constantly Meeting With Investors. It's possible he still has feelings for RJ but does not want to tell her how bad things are, which is why we are getting this hot/cold vibe from him. I still think he is supposed to be a villain, but maybe a villain from stupidity more than evil.
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23 Britney
November 21, 2023 at 8:25 PM
I wonder if Woo Hak felt any type of guilt for criticizing Ki Ho, when he thought he was talking about himself, after learning the truth. I mean he said "Ki Ho" should've held on tighter to Mok Ha's father and Mok Ha would've made it to the audition meanwhile in actuality Ki Ho was hospitalized due to the beating he got after trying to stall the father.
Also, I'm not sure about Korean language specifics but Woo Hak told Mok Ha to remember that Bo Geol is younger than her and she & Woo Hak are the same age.
So my understanding is regardless Woo Hak can talk casually/down to both of them. If Mok Ha was older than Bo Geol, she could speak casually/down to him. Is that not the case if they are the same age (which Ki Ho & Mok Ha are, I think)?
I feel like Bo Geol is the main one affected cause he would have to speak to Mok Ha differently depending on their surroundings.
I really just will never grasp korean.
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pliplipli
November 21, 2023 at 10:10 PM
woohak can talk casually with both of them, no matter the identity bcs the drama told us he's kiho's older brother so he would also be older than mokha (I will assume they are same-age friends since they were in the same class and the show never said kiho missed a year or something). mokha would have to speak formally with woohak in private, but as a same-age friend in public. bogeol would have to speak with both formally in public and casually with her in private.
as they said, it doesn't matter that much in private bcs everybody knows the truth lol but I'm just waiting for the moment that someone or a situation will force bogeol to call her noona or something lol
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Lelly19
November 22, 2023 at 6:43 AM
Right! It should be Woohak oppa for Mokha! xD
I had not thought of that aspect!
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pliplipli
November 22, 2023 at 7:50 AM
when he started that scene I was just waiting for him to say that mokha should address him as oppa when they are by themselves and tell bogeol that he should call her noona in public. it would be so on brand with him, just to annoy the two of them lol
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Britney
November 22, 2023 at 9:46 AM
I think it would be so cringey to hear noona and oppa (amongst them) at this point haha
I just realized have those titles really not been used in this drama?! All I'm remembering is Eonni & Hyung used.
Sidenote: why did I just think of Hometown Cha Cha Cha when the lead characters started dating and they both cringed & shut down the idea of her calling the guy oppa haha
Not to mention how he originally shut that down when she first learned he was older haha
vienibenmio
November 22, 2023 at 6:52 AM
Yes, the theory is that Mok-ha and Bo-geol/Ki-ho are the same age and then Woo-hak is a year older, but their fake identities have them each a year younger (making Woo-hak the same age as Mok-ha and Bo-geol a year younger)
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pliplipli
November 22, 2023 at 7:48 AM
yeah, I think the boys who disappeared were both a year younger and that's why it messed up the ages in comparison with mokha
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24 pliplipli
November 21, 2023 at 9:57 PM
I only had one wish for this drama and they gave it to me: CHJ IS FINALLY SMILING!
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25 ginkoVal
November 21, 2023 at 10:43 PM
This post is addressing comments of “ why Bo-geol switched stances so quickly” .
The switch was not abrupt, sudden or jarring.
1. It started from the point when they found her on the island. Bo-geol explicitly told MH that, for the first time, he regretted being known as Kang Bo-geol rather than embracing his true identity as Jung Ki-ho. He yearned to be authentic, openly declaring himself as Ki-ho. So he had lost the first chance to admit. His plan as the island keeper shifted towards assisting MH in reintegrating into society. MH was in the social support center before went back to her normal life, so at least she had prepared herself. And Ki-ho is never the type to shelter MJ in every steps. He pushes her into action while quietly offering support in the background. Woo-hak tagging along MH conveniently facilitates Ki-ho's objective of having MH reside in the same house, allowing him to discreetly care for her behind the scenes.
2. Of course he still didn’t want to reveal his secret identity for the safety of his family. But MH is not the one who just sits around and ignores the Kiho’s whereabouts, her actions stirred his inner struggles. The turning point came when his cop Dad came looking for MH, and their bickering where MH told him to stop being perplexing of the hot and cold distance, that he was not the Ki-ho she knew because THAT Ki-ho was someone she could simply follow whenever his eyes took her to. I believe that was the breaking point, he no longer wished to hide.
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ginkoVal
November 21, 2023 at 10:44 PM
3. I believe Ki-ho extensively pondered over the situation for the next actions. Then the opportunity arose with MH’s debut stage, immediately he made decision. He promptly and courageously transformed a risk into a chance. Things went fast after the debut performance. Yet, wasn't this his plan all along, conceived 15 years ago? The strategy was to make MH to such fame that she becomes untouchable, immune to any harm from his father or anyone else.
4. Now, she is a trending celebrity on the internet. Witnessing her dream comes true, but she is selfless and somewhat naive willingness to forsake it for the sake of his family, Bo-geol naturally feels the need to be open because he cannot bear the thought of her slipping away from him once again. I could sense the tremor in his voice as he asked Woo-hak, while driving, about the distance to the station where they last saw her, his urgency evident in the accelerated speed of the car. When WH calmed him down, KH told the story of their family after the new identity, and that his actions pale in comparison to MH enduring lonely on a deserted island for the same duration, you can see the accumulated emotions becomes apparent. At that point it felt like he could hardly breathe, the fear of losing sight of her again becomes overwhelming, reaching a breaking point where containment is no longer possible. This leads to the straightforward yet significant declaration, "It's me, Ki-ho," and the nonchalant yet profound "lunatic" confession..
So, no, it's not jarring at all. It's a display of consistency, a culmination of emotions "bursting" forth after being pondered for too long, erupting with incomparable longing and devotion.
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vienibenmio
November 22, 2023 at 6:11 AM
Thank you for this! I agree with you and this is such a well-written, beautiful analysis.
Bo-geol decided that he was tired of lying and, typical of his personality, he doesn't waver after that
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pliplipli
November 22, 2023 at 8:38 AM
and he also said how tired he is of hiding and lying to everybody. WH just found out the whole thing, he has a "fresh" mind, but BG is living this lie for 15 years. this + mokha almost disappearing again after everything he did to find her. I think mokha reaction to protect his family was a trigger in some way, but he has been slowly thinking about their situation in general since his dad came back into the picture.
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26 Nomorelisa
November 21, 2023 at 11:48 PM
Thinking to myself that living alone in a deserted island is much worse than being in prison for that many years, 15 years to be precise. Who in their right mind would think of such a plot to give a character stranded alone for such a long time? In prison at least you have food and lodgings and there are people around you, as humans are basically social animals. moreover, glossing over 15 years of a her life as though it was 15 days is a disservice to viewers for many would want to know how she pass the time away and how she managed to survive. I know I would be frightened to death or be mentally deranged. If there were so many umbrellas, we would like to have scenes that showed how she came across them and what food she had that kept her alive as nothing was shown that tells us she had the means to light a fire. Maybe there was a scene of her cooking the ramen, that I missed. I know I am nitpicking but no matter the ridiculousness of this drama, at least be more realistic.
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vienibenmio
November 22, 2023 at 6:12 AM
I do wish they'd done less than 15 years, although I don't know how they could make a shorter period work for the story
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john
November 22, 2023 at 6:18 AM
I don't know how they could make a shorter period work for the story
Amnesia ? 🤔🙄 It can be the reversible kind aigoo…😪