Castaway Diva: Episodes 5-6
by quirkycase
Lots of secrets come to light this week that threaten personal and professional lives alike. Our amnesiac reporter is struggling to make sense of the bits and pieces he’s regaining of his memories, while our voiceless singer and intrepid protégé continue their precarious ruse. All the while, our PD brother watches from the sidelines and works to find the courage to get involved.
EPISODES 5-6
We’re all-in on the Ki-ho mystery this week. With Woo-hak’s memories slowly returning, he starts doing his own research to elucidate his past. His first clue was that brief memory of Bong-wan’s face during his flashback. He rushes to find Mok-ha before Bong-wan does, but Bo-geol gets there first. Bo-geol isn’t gentle with Mok-ha, yelling at her for being naïve and obsessed with Ki-ho. He does soften slightly in the face of her sincere tears and worry for Ki-ho. Bo-geol cryptically assures her Ki-ho is fine, although he won’t divulge how he knows.
They’re gone by the time Woo-hak arrives, but Bong-wan isn’t, so Woo-hak follows him home. Woo-hak wants to turn Bong-wan in to the police, which Bo-geol vehemently vetoes. Instead, Woo-hak continues secretly following Bong-wan throughout the week. It’s clear Bong-wan has not learned from his mistakes and is as terrifying as ever. When Ki-ho’s old friend Dae-woong tries to dissuade him from looking for Ki-ho, Bong-wan orchestrates a car crash that leaves Dae-woong in a coma. How, you may ask? By planting a box of vicious hornets in his car. Yeah, he’s that kind of villain.
Woo-hak’s intentions become clearer when he promises Mok-ha that Ki-ho is alive and well, and that she’ll be able to meet him soon. He just wants to be sure it’s safe first. Clearly, he doesn’t mean safe for himself because he breaks into Bong-wan’s apartment one night when he’s away. More snippets of memory return as he roams the apartment. Then, he sees a family photo on the wall – in it are Bong-wan, Ki-ho, his current mom SONG HA-JUNG (Seo Jung-yeon), and Bo-geol. Oho, so the brothers are biologically related!
Amid this shocking discovery, Bo-geol walks into the apartment and has no choice but to fess up. We see a flashback of the brothers, at the time named Ki-ho and Chae-ho, hiding from their incensed father. He found another stash of Ki-ho’s cash. Rather than cower, Ki-ho stands up to his father who then goes to hit him over the head with a chair, but Chae-ho gets in between them and takes the blow. He is knocked unconscious and wakes up in the hospital as Woo-hak. Not only does his amnesia free Chae-ho of his awful memories, but it frees his whole family to forget and live new lives.
So now, unless they pull a fast one on us, it’s looking like Bo-geol is Ki-ho. The one thing that’s not entirely clear is the timeline. Based on what we know, Ki-ho and his father lived alone on Chunsam Island when Mok-ha knew him. They referred to him as a transfer student at school, so I’m guessing his father just got stationed there. His mom had already run away, presumably taking Chae-ho with her. After Mok-ha’s disappearance, Ki-ho got his father fired and disappeared. He must’ve met back up with his mom and brother, and Bong-wan must’ve found them again. So then when did their incredibly sweet father KANG SANG-DOO (Lee Joong-ok) show up? If he was there when Chae-ho/Woo-hak woke up in the hospital, he must’ve already been in the picture. Guess we’ll get more details later.
Knowing the truth, Woo-hak wants to take back their identities and stop running from their father – they’re adults who can handle themselves now. Bo-geol is firmly against that plan. They didn’t exactly get new identities in the legal way, it would seem, and exposing everything could rip their family apart. Woo-hak is devastated, but he would never hurt his precious family that went to such lengths to protect him.
As much as it kills him, Woo-hak lies to Mok-ha that he found Ki-ho. He’s happily married and says he’ll be rooting for her from afar. To drive it home, he hands her the old USB with her audition video that Ki-ho had. Mok-ha receives the news calmly, smiling to know he’s okay but sad she won’t get to see him like Woo-hak initially promised.
Still, Mok-ha is no fool and is starting to get suspicious. There are too many coincidences to ignore, especially when Ha-jung repeats her famous saying about dreams coming true in unexpected ways, which shocks Mok-ha – it’s the exact phrase Ki-ho told her all those years ago from his mom. Of course, Ha-jung pretends not to know who Ki-ho is and laughs it off, but she’s concerned enough to go to Bo-geol. He then tells her about Bong-wan finding Mok-ha. Thankfully, the family’s instinct is to protect Mok-ha like they protect each other rather than throwing her to the curb to save themselves. They really have claimed her like she’s one of them: giving her a place to live, a job at their salon, and even insisting they’re all added to her emergency contacts list.
Putting all the coincidences together, Mok-ha confides in Ran-joo that she thinks one of the brothers must be Ki-ho. She’s leaning toward Woo-hak since Bo-geol’s gaze is too weak and wishy washy (which she amusingly tells him to his face). But with everything going on, both brothers are acting out of character. Woo-hak is being extra nice and agreeable with everyone, but his eyes are sad. One night he cries on Mok-ha’s shoulder, feeling lost yet touched by her unwavering support and love for Ki-ho.
Bo-geol just confuses Mok-ha with his hot-and-cold behavior. He walls himself off and acts disinterested, but he also frequently helps Mok-ha. He even takes her to a wedding to help Ran-joo. PRESIDENT HWANG, who runs Ran-joo’s old agency, is their only chance of selling Ran-joo’s albums. Since Seo-joon pulled the albums he has the rights to, they need to get President Hwang to re-release Ran-joo’s oldest albums.
When Ran-joo met with him, he’d told her he’d consider re-releasing the albums if she attended and sang at his daughter’s wedding. She’s reluctant, but ever-supportive Mok-ha convinces her to show up and sing a duet with her which is pretty much the highlight of Mok-ha’s life.
Not only does President Hwang re-release her albums and turn down Seo-joon’s attempts to buy him off, but he leaves Ran-joo with some food for thought. She’s been taking out her anger on Mok-ha lately, assuming she’ll never leave. But everyone has their limits, just like Ran-joo eventually left President Hwang’s agency after he kept taking out his anger on her.
Amidst all this drama, a new challenger has entered the building. EUN MO-RAE (Bae Gang-hee), the girl who replaced Mok-ha back in the day, will be competing against Ran-joo on the variety show. She’s got beef with Ran-joo since she felt like she was always being unfavorably compared to Mok-ha as a poor substitute. Ran-joo, for her part, resented the up-and-comer for taking her crown.
Even though Mo-rae is a global top star, she’s insecure when it comes to Ran-joo (and now Mok-ha). She refuses to sing live on the program, and despite it going against the whole point of the show, the producers agree – she’s a top star, after all. Mok-ha, however, is not happy about it. She challenges the self-doubting Mo-rae to prove herself by singing live. Then, she’ll give her credit and acknowledge that she deserves her crown.
While this is going down, Woo-hak continues his quest for knowledge. He gently tells Sang-doo that he remembers everything and knows who he really is. Sang-doo looks terrified and insists that Woo-hak is his child and no one else’s, which Woo-hak has no desire to deny. He just wants to know how they faked their new identities.
Back at the recording studio, Bo-geol overhears Mok-ha’s challenge to Mo-rae and makes an executive decision. No one will be lip syncing today – not Mo-rae or Ran-joo. Mok-ha and Ran-joo are stunned he knows, but he’s not trying to punish them. Instead, he wants Mok-ha to be the one who goes onstage if Ran-joo’s performance wins.
Well, that should make things interesting next week. While I do believe Ran-joo’s intentions are good toward Mok-ha, she’s getting too used to using her. If they don’t stop the charade soon, it will never end. What’s interesting is that, according to Ran-joo’s doctor, there’s nothing physically wrong with her voice; it’s a mental block. Rather than using Mok-ha as a crutch, she needs to start figuring out how to gain the confidence to use her own voice again.
I hope we don’t drag out the reveal of Ki-ho’s identity to Mok-ha for too long. I want them to have time to deal with everything and not have too many lies piled up between them. While I don’t agree with lying to Mok-ha, I do get Woo-hak’s dilemma and am glad he at least ensured she knows Ki-ho is alright. And given how scary Bong-wan is, I certainly get why the whole family changed their identities through whatever means necessary. Bong-wan is a menace who has been obsessed with finding his son for years not out of love but vengeance. I doubt he’ll ever stop, which I think Woo-hak knows. Like it or not, the family is going to have to face him again. But this time, the kids are grown and not so easy to silence.
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1 Asha13
November 14, 2023 at 5:34 AM
I’m on the edge of my seat every time Woo Hak gets close to Ki Ho’s father in case he gets caught. I mean he’s a former cop and Woo Hak is the worst tail in the world. How the ex cop doesn’t catch on to him is a mystery. It was so stupid to B&E his house, given he is clearly a violent psychopath.
So here’s something I am really struggling with. I was under the impression Ki Ho lived alone with his dad when he met Mok Ha. So if he has been living with his new family after one of them lost his memory, then when did he report his father for abuse and run away from him? I’m sure you can tell I am a little confused about the timelines.
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vienibenmio
November 14, 2023 at 5:50 AM
I THINK the dad attacked Woo-hak, then ran away with Ki-ho to Chunsam. After Mok-ha disappeared, Ki-ho reported his father for abuse and ran away from him, in time to meet up with his mom and Woo-hak. The timeline's a bit iffy but it works well enough to not strain too much credulity imo.
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Asha13
November 14, 2023 at 8:13 AM
That makes sense when I think about it. While Chae Ho was in hospital, the dad grabbed Ki Ho and ran, possibly to escape prosecution
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vienibenmio
November 14, 2023 at 10:37 AM
My one thing is I don't know how the dad became a cop if he was suspected or under investigation for the Seoul incident. I feel like they'd probably do a background check at the very least?
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Asha13
November 14, 2023 at 10:38 AM
Wasn’t he already a cop?
Asha13
November 14, 2023 at 10:39 AM
He tells Ki Ho that he chases people around the globe to catch them or something to that effect
vienibenmio
November 14, 2023 at 10:40 AM
@asha13 - he was, but I would have assumed in Seoul. So did he transfer then?
Asha13
November 14, 2023 at 11:04 AM
@vienibenmio yes, I had assumed he did
latebloomer
November 14, 2023 at 10:35 AM
Yes! We saw the dad about to smash Ki-ho over the head, but the "good, kind" son was the older brother who pushed Ki-ho out of the way. Woo-hak was always the older brother, and he got smashed over the head in Ki-ho's place.
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1MoreDrama
November 14, 2023 at 1:03 PM
I think this too.
All sorts of signs point to Bo-Gelo as Ki-Ho. His decision to enter the music industry. His decision to do “island cleanup” work as a volunteer. His brothers weird obsession with mimicking him, because maybe he still sort of thinks he needs to protect Ki-Ho/Bo-Geol. And why that would irritate Bo-Geol who still feels guilt over how his actions hurt his brother.
Also, our reporter seems more stable and less shut down than Bo-Geol, who is sort of similar to a man who doesn’t trust easily.
I am however confused with the time line since Kiho and dad were on an island at the beginning. I guess dad relocated there to hide with Ki-Ho who kept trying to get back to Seoul…but then how did the Reporter brother wake up and have Kiho there? All of this confuses me…
Wait, no it doesn’t! I’m seeing it! So Ki-ho and dad are on Island for a short time before “the incident” and afterwards Ki-ho rages, turns his dad in and escapes to Seoul. He finds his brother and mom, who has moved on to another man (or else he is an uncle or something).
So the timeline works.
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Asha13
November 14, 2023 at 1:32 PM
That makes sense
LiliStar
November 18, 2023 at 11:44 AM
i think the timeline is a little different. in the first episode, the adults mention how ki-ho's personality had changed, instead of being obedient and listening to his father he had become 'rebellious'. not to mention the ki-ho and their father would talk about his mom, especially how his father would say that he was going to track his wife down but never mentioned his second son even to ki-ho. it makes me think ki-ho's mother left before he knew he had a second son. one other thing if woo-hak is not ki-ho why did he recognize himself in the photo of all of them? there must be a lot more that happened off the island that we don't know yet to explain what happened and how they finally got away from that crazy motherfucker.
If anyone wants to discuss this show please reply. i love this show and have no one to talk to it about. maybe if we put our heads together we can figure out what's going on before episode twelve.
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2 Hanamana
November 14, 2023 at 5:53 AM
Thank you for your recap @quirkycase.
Rather than cower, Ki-ho stands up to his father who then hits him over the head. He was knocked unconscious and woke up in the hospital as Woo-hak
The father picked up the chair to hit Ki-ho, but his brother came in the middle so the one who hurt and woke up in the hospital was Chae-ho, thus Bo-gyeol is Ki-ho.
It's what I understood. Am I wrong?
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Asha13
November 14, 2023 at 5:56 AM
Yeah I kinda thought I saw that. At least it was unclear who got hit because I saw Ki Ho being pulled down
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Asha13
November 14, 2023 at 7:52 AM
Yep, went back to watch it again. You can see Chae Ho jumping up to protect Ki Ho from the chair.
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Lord Cobol (Kdramas, like water, flow downhill)
November 14, 2023 at 8:37 AM
Ki-ho kept the audition usb. Amnesia boy wouldn't have remembered it, kept it secret, etc. Ki-ho must be Bo-geol, not amnesia boy, and Ki-ho/Bo-geol must have handed it over to Woo-hak/amnesia boy rather than reveal himself to Mok-ha.
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Britney
November 14, 2023 at 9:21 AM
Also, I saw this on twitter, Ki Ho apparently served in the marines (was wearing a marine uniform), Woo Hak gets seasick
Apparently going to different islands was Bo Geol's thing (possibly searching for signs of Mok Ha)
Ki Ho was still showing up at the station after adulthood, Woo Hak wouldn't have known or remembered the station.
Asha13
November 14, 2023 at 9:53 AM
Also someone mentioned in earlier comments: Ki Ho kept in touch with his friends including the guy who was attacked by dad. Amnesia boy couldn’t have done that
vienibenmio
November 14, 2023 at 10:39 AM
BG also knew the significance of the flowers, and the meeting place where MH would go to find Ki-ho. BG is 100% Ki-ho - most of us thought so all along, and then ep 6 confirmed it.
Britney
November 14, 2023 at 11:57 AM
@vienibenmio what are the significance of the flowers?
vienibenmio
November 14, 2023 at 12:41 PM
@Britney - BG knew right away that the flowers weren't from KH and meant trouble (hence why he rushed to the station)
vienibenmio
November 14, 2023 at 5:57 AM
You are correct. BG is Ki-ho.
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Violabelle
November 14, 2023 at 6:01 AM
I also thought they were suggesting Bo-gyeol is Ki-ho in this episode (which I'm a little disappointed about). Also it would make sense for Bo-gyeol to keep volunteering to go to remote islands so that he can continue to search for Mok-ha. From memory I think he was the one doing that right at the beginning.
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LaurenSophie
November 14, 2023 at 6:17 AM
That's my understanding as well. The scene cut away so we couldn't see exactly who was hit, but then Bo-gyeol's narration makes it clear that the boy who woke up in the hospital is not him; it's Chae-ho who was hit and lost his memory (and Woo-hak is the one who lost his memory). Secondly, we already know from past flashbacks what Ki-ho looks like and that boy with the glasses is not the one who wakes up in the hospital bed without a memory. Therefore, Woo-hak = Chae-ho and Bo-gyeol = Ki-ho. I thought that was clear. I guess the show could do a switcheroo on us later, but I'm not sure why or how.
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stberry
November 14, 2023 at 6:30 AM
I don't understand how the recapper is so sure that Woo-hak is Ki-ho? The boy who woke up in the hospital and lost his memory is clearly the other boy, not Moon Woo-jin? It's not obscure at all, and the show didn't even try to hide it anymore, they showed the parallel between BG/KH so blatantly in the preview!
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Britney
November 14, 2023 at 9:24 AM
I was surprised while reading it. It's so obvious that Bo Geol is Ki Ho.
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pliplipli
November 14, 2023 at 1:09 PM
I dont understand either lol
the show is still holding the moment BG will tell he is kiho for an emotional scene with mokah, but it has given more than enough confirmation. tbh even the child actors and the adult ones.. you can tell who is supposed to be who. I dont get this recap tbh
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Jingbee
November 14, 2023 at 2:32 PM
So the big new mystery is, will @quirkycase edit her recap or leave it be? 🫰
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sakuradaydream
November 14, 2023 at 8:07 PM
makes me question if we're watching the same show :')
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ginkoVal
November 15, 2023 at 8:08 PM
I couldn't believe it when the recapper missed the clear evidence that Bo-geol is Kiho. I mean, I was already surprised by last week's weecap, but I could understand because Episodes 3-4 were still confusing with misleading hints. However, this week? I was genuinely shocked. I appreciate quirkycase taking the time to write a weecap for us, but I'm left dumbfounded. How did an experienced recapper like her miss those clear evidences?
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panshel
November 14, 2023 at 6:53 AM
@quirkycase In addition to Bo-geol indeed being Ki-ho, Chae-ho is the hyung, and Ki-ho is the younger brother.
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DancingEmma
November 14, 2023 at 7:01 AM
@Hanamana: That’s my understanding too.
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OhSoEnthusiastic
November 14, 2023 at 9:33 AM
You are correct. @quirkycase might have just missed the shot of Chae-ho/Bo Geol jumping in the line of fire since it's a quick shot.
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MamaWantsDrama
November 14, 2023 at 10:41 AM
I spent the first couple episodes truly thinking Woo-hak was Ki-ho. (It was the glasses! The glasses threw me off! I was such easy prey!) Then, I started thinking about it ... and it's amazing, when you go back with the mindset that Bo-gyeol is Ki-ho and watch the first episodes again - everything falls into place. His facial expressions, his personality, even the chemistry - Bo-gyeol is totally Ki-ho and I love that he is! I am eagerly waiting for the next episode. Love this drama.
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LaurenSophie
November 14, 2023 at 11:52 AM
I agree. Although there were little clues (or red herrings) designed to make us wonder if Woo-hak was Ki-ho (the glasses, the memory loss, the flashback) most of the bigger ones were those he also shared with Ki-ho (repeating things mom said, remembering the same abusive father, feeling drawn to MH, admiring MH's singing). Of course, there are just way more clues that BG is Ki-ho (which others have already exhaustively listed). And this is because BG IS Ki-ho, lol; the episode made that crystal clear. I so appreciate the recaps, but on this one thing, I just think @quirkycase already had it in their mind that Woo-hak was Ki-ho (they said as much in last week's recap) and that may have colored their viewing of this latest episode and made them miss some of the quick reveals involving who was hit with the chair and who woke up in the hospital.
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Britney
November 14, 2023 at 12:10 PM
Ki Ho stopped wearing glasses during the montage of him waiting at the station.
I think one of, if not the biggest questions or red herrings is regarding the ages. Bo Geol is one year younger than Woo Hak & Mok Ha yet Ki Ho & Mok Ha were classmates.
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pliplipli
November 14, 2023 at 1:19 PM
one thing I didnt pay attention to was if kiho called his brothers as hyungs in the flashback we got... bcs if there's no clear scene of him doing it (the real flashback, not woohak's memory flashes), maybe he's not even the younger and their ages were switched and it will be explained once we get the whole changing names things from their adoptive father.
OhSoEnthusiastic
November 14, 2023 at 4:05 PM
Some of that potentially be explained by the Korean age system.
sotar
November 15, 2023 at 6:25 AM
If you recall the lake they kept showing throughout the episode, I think the bodies of the real Bogeol and Woohak are at the bottom of it, and Kiho's family assumed their identities after they died. I don't think they had anything to do with how they died, just that they took their identities in order to hide from Bongwan, since the law failed to protect them.
My guess is the real Bogeol and Woohak were a year younger than Kiho and Chaeho, who had to assume those new ages. Bogeol/Kiho and Mokha are the same age, Woohak/Chaeho is a year older than them.
starandsky
November 14, 2023 at 3:21 PM
Agree with @MamaWantsDrama.
In the surface, it was easy to think Woo-hak was Ki-ho, e.g. they wear glasses, Woo-hak gives the USB drive, and he supports Mok-ha singing career. BUT then, when you put those thoughts aside, you can see crystal clear many many signs that put Bo-geol as Ki-ho (the signs that others have been listed extensively).
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immawish
November 14, 2023 at 11:06 AM
I think it's pretty clear now that Bogeol IS Kiho because Woohak is the one getting his memory whipped, and he did say to Mokha that he saw his mom for the first time when he woke up yet didn't remember her. And we saw it was Chaeho that was in the hospital instead of Kiho or did I miss anything...
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too_much_tv
November 14, 2023 at 11:26 AM
No, you are right.
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sakuradaydream
November 14, 2023 at 8:06 PM
yeah youre correct. I remember the sheer shock I felt when I realized bo-gyeol was Kiho.
And Chaeho/Woohak threw himself over Kiho to take the hit causing him to lose his memories
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3 Soyesterday
November 14, 2023 at 5:56 AM
I was hesitant to start watching this because i absolutely hated Start-up (i loved Pinocchio and While you were sleeping though). but im glad i did, it doesnt reinvent the wheel but it balances most of its elements well, the mystery, suspense, the family drama and the little bits of comedy as well.
Park Eun-bins consistency and versatility is her greatest strength as an actress, i hope it the drama can stick its landing
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4 vienibenmio
November 14, 2023 at 5:56 AM
I'm obsessed with this drama. I know that the story and writing have flaws, but I don't even care. I do think that the writing is overall very good, though; I love how each episode has this overarching "theme" that relates back to the characters and story. I also love Bo-geol in all of his tsundere glory, and I enjoyed how Mok-ha called him out this week. It's painful to see how they're all gaslighting her, and I wish they could just tell her the truth and let her deal with it like an adult. At least she doesn't buy the lie about Ki-ho. I like how in this show, the characters are smart and figure things out pretty quickly.
I'm trying to figure out what Bo-geol's plan is. Is MH going to sing as herself? Is MH going to sing as RJ and then reveal herself after? Is RJ going to sing for herself? The psychological block to singing makes way more sense than nodes, but it feels like RJ isn't even trying. When Lea Salonga was struggling with the original run of Miss Saigon, she hit up a vocal coach and nipped it in the bud. RJ needs to study under a voice teacher, not see an ENT doctor (I assume that was an ENT doctor).
A lot people on Reddit didn't like the new diva (I only remember her initials so I'll call her MG), but I think Ran-joo was rude to her and it makes sense that she eventually "broke bad." I actually really love RJ's character, she is flawed in such a realistic way.
I still don't like WH, but at least his actions were understandable. But, he thinks he's so clever when really he's just falling into the dad's trap. As I put on Reddit: "WH is playing checks while the dad is playing chess."
Less convinced that the CEO is going to get a redemption arc after the latest eps, but we'll see.
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vienibenmio
November 14, 2023 at 5:59 AM
UGH, *chess, not checks.
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Britney
November 14, 2023 at 10:28 AM
Do you mean checkers and chess?
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vienibenmio
November 14, 2023 at 10:37 AM
That is exactly what I meant. WH is playing checkers and dad is playing chess.
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vienibenmio
November 14, 2023 at 6:00 AM
Also, I'm now 99% convinced that this is a romance, especially after the lyrics to the part 5 OST track. Speaking of, I LOVE the OST for this show.
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Britney
November 14, 2023 at 10:29 AM
I think the ost has been charting.
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Lelly19
November 14, 2023 at 6:44 AM
MG (Eun Morae is her name, I think xD) turned out to be less annoying than I had anticipated! As far as we know she was talented and the cold treatment she got from Ranjoo was quite unwarranted.
I'm looking forward to how their relationship will develop.
As for the CEO, he sucks, honestly. But there is still some hope for him, I think. We'll see.
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vienibenmio
November 14, 2023 at 7:20 AM
Hahaha, yes, Eun Mo-rae! I even got her initials wrong.
I just feel like if the CEO was gonna be your average jerk CEO, they wouldn't have shown him being so sweet and supportive in the first episode (back in the past).
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Unaspirated
November 14, 2023 at 9:24 AM
I totally agree the cold treatment from Ran-joo was not great and was part of what made Mo-rae snobby to her in return, but to me this all falls on Crappy CEO Guy. If Ran-joo is right and she was the one who coached and styled Mo-rae early on, only to be sidelined in favor of her, that would be really painful, and doubly so if your position in the company was not secure. I was thinking that that’s what Ran-joo should be doing right now - developing the next generation of stars. She has an eye for talent and she knows how to make it shine, so why on earth is CEO Guy not letting her in so she can use those skills? If it had been pitched as, “Let us help you transition into a broader role in the organization” instead of “That album didn’t sell well, so go away” it seems like it would be a very different relationship.
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Kurama
November 14, 2023 at 10:18 AM
But the CEO wasn't a total jerk. Her before last album didn't sell well, they gave a new chance with the last one and it was the same. She was asking a new one like it was normal, but she can't expect the agency to be ready to loose money like this. Then, she was angry against Mo-Rae.
Chona Pineda
November 14, 2023 at 11:37 AM
D CEO IS D FORMER DRIVER OF RANJOO.SHE WAS GOAD TO FORM A START-UP RECORD COMPANY WITH HIM..I GUESS HE N MORAE DOUBLE CROSSED RANJO FOR SHARES N OWNERSHIP OF D COMPANY…IF THE RECORDS OF RANJO’S SONGS WILL HIT 400 ,000 IN SALES SHE IS ENTITLED 4 half shares n ownership of d company…SO BEFORE THAT HAPPENS HE KICK HER OUT N WILL NOT SELL HER RECORDS.
FOR RANJOO AGREEING TO THIS KIND OF CONTRACT IS NOTHING SHORT OF BEING STUPID,…SHE WAS A MEGASTAR N AT D PEAK OF HER MUSICAL CAREER Y GIVE D UPPERHAND TO YOUR DRIVER???
HOW DUMB N SILLY THIS CONTRACT IS…UR A BIG SUPERSTAR N HE WAS UR DRIVER, Y U AGREED ON THIS TERM??
Unaspirated
November 14, 2023 at 1:09 PM
@kurama Right, but if he had come to her after the first album didn’t do well and had a conversation about diversifying her role, they could still have tried the second album and had her looking for new talents. Then it wouldn’t have been a loss of her entire identity. I don’t love how she has treated/is treating Mo-rae, but I think a lot of the resentment could have been avoided.
🌸 Seeker 🌸
November 16, 2023 at 10:54 PM
It does seem like everyone could have handled things in a better manner but there does seem to be something shady about the CEO. Changing the name and logo of the company without so much as an intimation to Ran-joo seems shady. Also talking to investors and pushing the new girl as the face of the company while part of the normal business seemed to be done to sideline Ran-joo.
Lelly19
November 14, 2023 at 9:28 AM
Right! I see most characters (except the abusive fathers, I guess) as neither 100% bad nor 100% good, but instead multifaceted and flawed.
It makes for a more interesting storytelling, and leaves space for their growth too.
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ar_arguably romantic
November 14, 2023 at 5:19 PM
He started out with purer intentions and then started to become part of the system. He had a taste of being the CEO for over a decade and being the CEO of the company that brought you Eun Mo-rae. He doesn't want to give up half his power, especially if he believes she could tank the company. But he shouldn't have made that deal in the first place. It seems like he made that deal to lure her in, never expecting to have to fulfill his end of the bargain.
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Jingbee
November 15, 2023 at 7:59 AM
Upon rewatch, it turns out that it was Ranjoo who suggested the deal of giving her shares instead of money. I missed it the first time too but I noted it this time.
Britney
November 14, 2023 at 10:47 AM
@cubely @vienibenmio @jls943 @kurama The thing I don't understand about the ceo is why is he so scared of Ran Joo being an equal partner or a majority shareholder (or whatever the terms are). It's not like she was trying to take over the company and make decisons about how it was run day to day.
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vienibenmio
November 14, 2023 at 10:54 AM
I think the company is struggling financially (probably on the brink of ruin, given that this is is a drama) so that's factoring into his behavior.
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GySgt213
November 15, 2023 at 5:09 AM
He is hiding something for sure that probably prevents him from handing over shares to her.
Lelly19
November 14, 2023 at 1:22 PM
I think that is exactly what he was afraid of!
Tbh I can't really imagine what goes through the mind of the CEO of an ent. company ahah!
What I think in this case specifically is that with time passing and the circumstances changing, what the CEO saw in Ranjoo changed too.
When they started their (his?) company she was at the top, super successful, but not long after that her career started to go downhill.
Right now he does not trust her to do the best interest of the company.
But I am waiting for more information about what happened between them...I don't have a strong opinion right now because we still don't know all the facts.
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vienibenmio
November 14, 2023 at 2:09 PM
I THINK Ran-joo faced some legitimate setbacks (nodes, competition from a younger woman, etc) but she also handled them in a very ineffective way, that essentially made her situation worse. I think that she has experienced some negative things, but also has contributed to her own circumstances. The way she treated Mo-rae is a good example - she was threatened, yes, but Mo-rae didn't have to be her enemy. She made her into one
bbstl 🧹
November 14, 2023 at 7:44 AM
Ran Joo needs to stop smoking and stop drinking and, as you say, rehab w a voice coach. And she needs to be training MokHa as well.
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November 14, 2023 at 6:10 AM
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7 stberry
November 14, 2023 at 6:15 AM
I was planning on writing down some thoughts and somehow it ended up as a 1700-word mess of an essay. Please let me know if this is too long, and I need to post this on my fanwall instead :D
I. Apparently, people here do not like the drama and are dropping it, I've been reading the posts but I still don't understand what's the problem. I still love it, but each to their own I guess.
Episode 5 was a bit bloated and I find WH hero complex annoying, but it sticks to the episodic theme pretty well and WH's action did move the plot along, so it wasn't that bad.
Episode 6 on the other hand is excellent, answering questions, solving problems, and introducing new stakes. It's all very exciting!
1. Who is KH?
Well, if you have been paying attention, this isn't really a question, but I'm glad it was made clear in episode 6.
2. Why is KH's father way more hung up with him than his Mom and brother?
Because he was always the more defiant one, he was the one who successfully ran away and cost him his job. Dad seems to insist on his family being grateful and obedient to him, so KH's attitude would trigger him more.
3. Why is BG so set on having to hide away? He's big and strong now, surely he can't be scared of his 60-year-old father?
Yes, he can, because abused victims do not magically grow out of their fears as they grow older and stronger. But the writer really up the stakes by showing Dad attempting murder on a big and strong 30-year-old man, making it clear how dangerous that man is. Knowing his father, of course, BG/KH would try to stay hidden as much as he could.
4. KH's mom's quote is not that unique.
She used exactly the same logic to deflect MH's question!
5. How did KH and his family get their new identities?
Because they stole the identities of a dead family. Identity theft is a serious crime, BG did not lie when he told MH that KH may have become a criminal. He really is one. Makes sense he doesn't want MH to know, so at least when everything falls apart, MH will not be blamed as an accomplice.
6. How are the divas gonna get out of the lipsyncing mess?
Easy, confessing their wrong-doings right away, coming clean is the best way to overcome this potential PR disaster. Also, letting MH have her debut stage is a nice bonus. It is unsure if the public will react to MH positively or negatively, but she sure will get public attention. She would get so many eyeballs on her, that the abusive dad would have to think twice if he wanted to harm her. KH's coming through with his original plan of making her so famous no one can touch her, my guy has been working his whole life preparing for this day.
7. How are they gonna get out of the identity theft mess?
I don’t know, but for some reason, I don’t think they will, someone is going to have to pay the price.
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stberry
November 14, 2023 at 6:15 AM
II. The ending and ep 7 preview floors me, I felt like crying and cheering at the same time.
I cannot wait for next week; KH is directing MH's debut! Just watching the preview brings tears to my eyes. This is why I love Kdramas so much; they just make me feel all the feels.
Watching this drama makes me realize why I love Park Hae Ryun's drama; it's her high-stakes dramatic family backstory that keeps tugging at my heartstrings. Probably why my favorite of her works are IHYV and Pinocchio.
It also reminded me of my initial love for the childhood connection trope; it's been overused for a bit in a while, and Kdramas have been trying to stray away from it recently (replacing it with the past lives connection trope, which is somehow even more annoying). But before being overused to the point of fatigue, the childhood connection used to bring out so many emotions in me—so tragic, so sad, so gut-wrenching—I'm talking about Autumn in my Heart and Stairways to Heaven level of childhood connection. MH and KH somehow just remind me of how I feel watching those dramas. It's been so long that a childhood connection can affect me this much, and damn it, I need them to be together forever!!
III. I find the theme of episode 6, regarding Secret and Lies super impactful. Every character here lies, for one reason or another but the drama doesn't seem to paint the lies as something entirely wrong, as BG stated at the end, the reasons for lying are understandable, but a lie is still a lie, the further it goes on, the worse it would blow up in their faces. He advised them to rectify their mistakes by telling the truth now, to prevent them from spiraling out of control. But what about his own lies, his own secret? Some people read it as hypocrisy on his part, but I read it as if he was speaking from experience. I think he knows he and his family have been burying themselves under a mountain of lies for way too long now, that they have already lost their voices. He wanted MH to get out of the lies now so she wouldn't end up like him. Couple this with the ominous narration MH did at the beginning, about how she wished they could keep the peace based on the lies for a little longer. These lines killed me cause they suddenly filled my head with fears that the moment she knew he was KH, he would be ripped away from her because of the lies coming crashing down on him.
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stberry
November 14, 2023 at 6:16 AM
IV. BG is seriously so impressive; he's so smart and always several steps ahead of everyone.
- He figures out CEO Lee's plan within seconds of seeing him at the wedding.
- He knew where his father had been staying all this time; keeping an eye on him while still staying hidden was quite a smart move.
- He catches on to the lipsyncing scheme on the first day but never lets on that he knew until the crucial moment and is already coming up with a solution (I believe we've seen him editing videos of MH singing at the wedding and the MV he shoots for her at Chunsam at some point; my man has been preparing; he's building a narrative for her and probably for Ran-joo unnie, too).
- Not to mention, he's been volunteering to go to deserted islands to pick up trash and never gives up until he eventually finds her.
Like he's a man of action; he works tirelessly behind the scenes, and that's so hot of him.
V. I did find it a bit sad when BG told WH about how Mom thinks WH's losing his memory was a blessing. Isn't it tragic that only one child was blessed with the opportunity to forget all the traumas while one still remembers everything, still carries the guilt of losing his friend to the sea, and still bears the burden of keeping the family's secret? He breaks my heart, honestly. And it's pissing me off that people still criticize him for being too rude and too mean. You can't please everyone, I guess.
VI. It was quite hilarious some people seem to think WH is more similar to KH than BG. It’s like they forget MH and KH did not get along at the beginning, he snatched the phone away from her hand while she was in the middle of a call, he called her a crazy person having flowers tucked in her hair, and he never complimented her singing despite clearly being impressed! (I don’t blame the audience sometimes, cause it seems like even MH had forgotten this part of his personality). And you said that person is more similar to WH than KH? WH lost his memory, not having a personality transplant!
KH’s also the type of person who lied to MH to keep her on the boat while sacrificing himself trying to stop her father. And some people still think he would choose to tell her the truth now, knowing all the risks that are looming over him and his family?? Do you know what this is called? It’s called consistency, BG is and has always been KH, he only seemed wishy-washy because he was trying to keep a distance and hide himself from her, but the core personality is still there. KH also would never do risky things like stalking and trespassing a dangerous abuser like WH did, with or without his memory.
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stberry
November 14, 2023 at 6:17 AM
VII. Judging by the plot progression, I'm pretty sure they're going for MH falling in love with BG without knowing for sure he's KH. So she's not going to know for a while, methink. Excuse my romantic brain, but I love that type of trope, so you will not be hearing complaints from me, no matter how ridiculous it gets
I really like that idea, cause MH and KH may have a deep connection with each other, they were also only children, so claiming they are “in love” or assuming that they are “destined to be together” is kind of a stretch. So her potentially falling in love with him as a separate person unrelated to the past makes it feel, I don’t know, more real? Unless, I’m completely wrong, and she falls in love with WH, or someone else, or nobody at all :D
VIII. I still find the love triangle incredibly stupid, everyone and their mother know the heart of the story is MH and KH, I just do not understand what's the point of adding a love triangle into it, all it does so far is take away from the main story and turning it into a battle where people try to find as much flaws as possible in the MLs to prove one is better than the other. Which was, again, stupid, because who cares if one is better than the other, who cares which one can do more for the FL? It's ultimately her life, she can (1) take care of herself and (2) choose whoever she wants. Compared to While You Were Sleeping and Start-Up (both shows I dropped because of the annoying love triangles), I actually care much more about the main leads here, so I don't think I will drop this, but I do hope the writer focus on building MH and KH's relationship and doesn't ruin its momentum by leaning too much into the love triangle anymore.
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GetawayJunkie
November 14, 2023 at 7:27 AM
I don’t think this will become a love triangle.
As EP 6 has shown, Woo Hak does love Bo Geol and he will protect him at his own expense.
So knowing that MokHa and BoGeol have feelings for each other (which I am assuming will happen in the later episodes), he will then quietly step back and out…
This is only 12 episodes, not 16 and we still have 2 major plot lines to resolve (MokHa to find out about BG/KH and the identities of the boys), there is no time for a love triangle!
Jingbee
November 14, 2023 at 7:46 AM
Thank you for the essay, I agree with everything that you said here. I certainly do not want this show to be reduced to just a shipping war as there is so much more content to address instead.
Lelly19
November 14, 2023 at 7:56 AM
About the love triangle...I don't see it! Not yet! For now we have both brothers deeply caring about Mokha and trying to protect her together!
I am pretty confident that, even in the eventuality we'll see some sort of a love triangle, it won't be annoying at all!
I hope I'm right here! ahah
vienibenmio
November 14, 2023 at 8:42 AM
@cubely I agree. I think that WH's feelings for Mok-ha were imo largely in part because he thought he was Ki-ho and also because he got to play hero with her. Let's face it, he doesn't really know her that well.
sotar
November 15, 2023 at 6:59 AM
I don't think the love triangle will progress to anything beyond what it is now. While Woohak clearly has a crush on Mokha, I don't get any attraction vibes on her end towards him, and it becomes really obvious whenever she's around Bogeol. Mokha is just so conscious of Bogeol, so shy and flustered around him, in a way she never is around Woohak.
Also Woohak knows Mokha loves Kiho. Mokha might not be able to recognise her longing for him as love, but Woohak (and Ranjoo) does. And Woohak loves Bogeol so much, I just don't see him intentionally going after the girl his brother made life-threatening sacrifices to help.
vienibenmio
November 14, 2023 at 6:47 AM
YES, I am also here for the "MH falls in love with BG not knowing he's KH" as well as KH/BG falling for MH all over again.
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ar_arguably romantic
November 14, 2023 at 5:35 PM
I think in the beginning, BG didn't interact with MH much, so it was murkier. It was definitely more obvious by episode 5 with more interactions, that BG is KH. And with how much KH suffered, part of me wished that he could have had amnesia and been the carefree dummy, WH.
Pre-accident WH was probably nowhere as wacky as WH now. He seemed like a gentle, protective older brother who is also more timid than his little bro in front of his dad. Pre-accident WH wouldn't have dared to do something as risky as make money behind his dad's back and think about running away and talk back to his dad. Of course, now WH is the guy who seemed born to rebel and fired up to throw his dad's ass in jail.
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vienibenmio
November 15, 2023 at 6:07 AM
I rewatched ep 2 and BG barely blinks when he's reunited with MH. I think that really messed with people's heads, too.
honeybean
November 14, 2023 at 6:59 AM
Why I really like the childhood connection in this show is that it has depth. This isn't a case of toddlers vowing to marry each other when they grew up, this is abused teens trauma-bonding and finding comfort in the other. Mokha and Kiho shared parts of themselves with each other that no one knew about, and Kiho selflessly gave her the chance to achieve her dreams. I really hope Mokha and Bogeol get to bond with their present day versions, and provide some comfort and relief for all they've been through. Their past relationship wasn't romantic, but I hope the one they develop in the later half blossoms into one.
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Lelly19
November 14, 2023 at 8:07 AM
Yes to all this!!
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vienibenmio
November 14, 2023 at 10:30 AM
The part 5 OST track actually implies that they loved each other as teenagers: "In the season of brilliant light, we loved each other"
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OhSoEnthusiastic
November 14, 2023 at 4:11 PM
100% this.
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ginkoVal
November 15, 2023 at 8:23 PM
Gosh, I love reading your essay. I agree 100% with everything you said. Ep 7 preview filled me with sheer elation. My boy Bo-geol, he is the man of action. My eyes have been glued to him since the moment he put the shoes on Mok-ha in episode 2. I might have unconsciously decided who he is from the beginning, so all the hints leading to him being Bo-geol were vividly clear for me right from the start.
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vienibenmio
November 14, 2023 at 6:46 AM
I just want to say that I share your love for this show and I also love your insights! I agree that BG is so smart and impressive, and that's another reason I love him
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honeybean
November 14, 2023 at 7:10 AM
Thanks for sharing your thoughts! There are a lot of details you talked about that I missed, and I enjoy reading insightful comments.
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Lelly19
November 14, 2023 at 8:11 AM
Omg I wish I could give you a hug!!! Finally someone that understands me!! I wanna cry!!! ><
Ok, enough with being dramatic ahah! I loved reading this essay of yours! Thanks for posting and sharing your insights, I agree with absolutely everything, and you said it better than I ever could!!
Let's hope the drama will be as enjoyable in its second half too, and reach the end in a satisfying manner! <3
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vienibenmio
November 14, 2023 at 8:35 AM
I'm with you! Maybe we can all start tagging each other in our fanwall posts about CD so we can share our love of this drama
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Lelly19
November 14, 2023 at 9:23 AM
Yes, why not! ^^
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Unaspirated
November 14, 2023 at 9:34 AM
Add me please!
8 tabong is ironing the crosswalk
November 14, 2023 at 6:17 AM
Where are the Divas?
1. Am I supposed to root for the girl that after giving an idol the "I'll only acknowledge your talent after hearing you sing live" speech, she was planning to make her artist lip sync? Does Mo Ka even heard Mo Rae's sing before? And why should Mo Rae prove anything to Mo Ka? LOL
And am I supposed to root for the woman that treated a kid like trash for no reason? Mo Rae is a replacement? A money cow? Excuse me?
That "you can be a star only if you don't shine brighter than me" mentality is horrible. Ran Joo and Mo Ka acting like Mo Rae owes them something is ridiculous. Mo Ka reminds me to those kpop fans that act like their oppas are the best and the rest of the world is trash.
Here artist and fan are equally toxic. Perfect for each other.
Am I supposed to feel proud or happy if they win against Mo Rae? I'm sorry but I'm more interested in how Mo Rae survived those 15years of bullying than anything related to the other two.
2. The boys... There's Ki Ho, the Start Up boy 2.0. I don't like him just like the Start Up boy. And his communication skills... Maybe that's hereditary? because watching the mom trying to make Mo Ka give up on being a singer instead of just telling her what's going on was painful.
They keep talking about protecting people, but... *Sigh* I'm pretty sure that Mo Ka wouldn't go around talking about Ki Ho here and there if they just told her "Ki Ho is right next to you. Now stop talking about him with other people because his dad wants to kill us". Same with Woo Hak. Since they always lie to him, now he's doing things on his own, in secret.
I liked Woo Hak, but now that he's going full on Pinocchio on the abusive jerk, I'm bored. I liked it better when he acted like the maknae of the house and was full of energy and positivity. I liked his dynamic with his dad, but thanks for ruining that too show.
3. The CEO... Yes, he's a jerk, nothing surprising or new or interesting. Instead of making this a revenge show against the bad CEO, maybe they could've focused more on the music or something.
I'm not even sure I understood the characters.
Mo Ka wants to be a singer but she is the ghostsinger for the artists she's managing?.
Ran Joo doesn't want to leave the stage but she didn't even go to the doctor until now?
And she wants to lead the agency but she doesn't even know if she's making profit or not? Oh, and she doesn't like other people being more famous than her.
LMAO
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Well, I think I got everything out of my system. I'm happy I don't have to think about this show again. LOL
Bye, and good luck.
See ya in other recaps, beanies. ✌️
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Elinor, Team Glasses team co-captain
November 15, 2023 at 4:26 PM
Excellent, spot-on rant. Thank you for saying everything I wanted to say, but better! 😂 Oh well, see ya around.
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tabong is ironing the crosswalk
November 15, 2023 at 4:58 PM
The Ki Ho show wasn't for us. 😅 See you on the other side. Viva la vida (this is my new "annyeong" lol).
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9 Kurama
November 14, 2023 at 6:20 AM
So now, unless they pull a fast one on us, it’s clear that Woo-hak is indeed Ki-ho What? It was quite the opposite for me.
They were still a family when the accident happened. On the island, the father didn't where was the mother. So I think, the father left with Ki-Ho and then Ki-Ho escaped. But it's not really clear because when Woo-Hak woke up they invented a family, a father and his brother was there... So it's confusing.
But clearly, Bo-Gyeol gave Woo-Hak the UBS key with her MV, how Woo-Hak could still have it after forgetting so long about it. Woo-Hak doesn't have the personality of Ki-Ho when Bo-Gyeol chose a job where is behind the camera.
The mystery is the pond and how they got new names. I think the fact there is a drougth will let the pond showing its secret aka a dark think like a body. It would explain why they can't get their idendity back, because they did an illegal thing.
For Ran-Jo and Mok-Ha, it's funny how they see only what Ran-Jo suffered and not the rest. Neither of them can't see the bigger picture. They cheated everytime Mok-Ha sang, they weren't nice to Mo-Rae who suffered the same as Ran-Jo. I was happy that Bo-Gyeol put a stop to the situation.
I really like BG and MH's scenes. They are cute together! I need more of them.
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LaurenSophie
November 14, 2023 at 7:24 AM
I forgot about the cuts to the pond throughout the episode. There's definitely some evidence there of some action the family needed to take. Maybe they simply took on the identities of another family that had died in that pond?
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vienibenmio
November 14, 2023 at 7:26 AM
I think there are two possibilities:
- They took on the dead family's identities
- The dead family is related to the "adoptive" dad (he seemed VERY emotionally invested to the point where he refused to admit to the truth), like his wife and kids who died
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November 14, 2023 at 7:51 AM
I was hoping the pond would reveal someone the evil dad murdered and get him put away for good but I think your theory is right.
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Kurama
November 14, 2023 at 7:55 AM
The theme of the episode was lies. The cuts of the pond appeared when they were mentionning lies. BG said the truth will destroy their family. Sadly, I don't think the father is the only one hidding secret.
Athena
November 14, 2023 at 1:39 PM
Yes, I think bones will be discovered and DNA will trace back to the identities they assumed.
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starandsky
November 14, 2023 at 3:29 PM
Oh the pond! I think your theory about it kinda make sense.
Another scene that I am confused about is the old lady in hospital bed. Who is she and how it relates to the story? Maybe I missed something...
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panshel
November 14, 2023 at 3:51 PM
The old lady in the hospital is Ran-joo in the future reflecting on her life.
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10 Miss_elly
November 14, 2023 at 6:33 AM
@quirkycase I rewatched the flash back scene and it was actually woo-hak ( Chae-ho) who shielded bo-guel (ki-ho) from the attack. You can see he jumped in to cover his brother. So BG is actually ki-ho. What makes this even stronger is when mok-ha said he couldn’t possibly be her friend he got really defensive. Let’s just hope they clear it up soon!
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Miss_elly
November 14, 2023 at 6:34 AM
No one jump on me please’
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Jingbee
November 14, 2023 at 7:33 AM
Most of us I think agree with you.
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LaurenSophie
November 14, 2023 at 8:05 AM
No one will jump on you--you're right!
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OhSoEnthusiastic
November 14, 2023 at 4:15 PM
Can I jump with you in excitement that Bo Geol is Ki Ho, lol?
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Lelly19
November 14, 2023 at 7:01 AM
You are right. We see Chaeho shield Kiho from their father and then, in the next scene, wake up in the hospital with amnesia. That is indeed Woohak from our present timeline. That makes Bogeol Kiho.
It was obvious, it's not simply a clue. I was a bit surprised by the fact that they made the reveal so anticlimactic, but I did not expect so many people to still be confused about it?!
But this is one reason I like this drama, it makes my brain work more (and keeps me distracted from stressful real life stuff lol)!! xD
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OhSoEnthusiastic
November 14, 2023 at 4:17 PM
The shot of Woo Hak/Chae Ho jumping in front of the chair is quick enough that I can see how people missed it.
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Lelly19
November 14, 2023 at 11:49 PM
That shot is not the only thing that gives it away, it's mostly the scene where non-Kiho wakes up in the hospital, and everything that happens after 😅
I understand maybe missing it during a first watch, but going back to rewatch the scene should clear up any doubt ahaha!
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November 14, 2023 at 9:39 AM
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11 bunnylita
November 14, 2023 at 6:34 AM
Bogeol is definitely Kiho. They showed Woohak stepping in front of him and getting hit by the chair. And when he woke up from the coma it was not the actor who plays young Kiho but young Woohak in the hospital.
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12 honeybean
November 14, 2023 at 6:41 AM
Thanks for the recap! However, I think Ep 6 proved that Bogeol is Kiho, not Woohak.
It makes the timeline less confusing. Kiho had been saving money to run away since they lived in Seoul. His father found out and angrily raised the chair at him, but ended up hitting his hyung (Chaeho=Woohak). Woohak was hospitalized and lost his memories while Kiho and his dad went to Chunsam Island, where he met Mokha. Kiho was able to escape his dad after Mokha got missing, and finally reunited with his mum and brother (remember Woohak said that he met Bogeol sometime after he regained his memory). They assumed the identities of the Kang family (cue: lake mystery?)
It seems like the most logical hypothesis, as Bogeol behaves more like Kiho than Woohak. Present day Kiho has always know that he is Kiho, but Woohak lost his memories. It explains why Ranju felt Bogeol was familiar as he had met her before, why he searched islands for Mokha and regularly visited their meeting spot, why he remembers his friends from middle school. It's consistent with Kiho's character: the banter with Mokha, his casual hand-in-his-pocket posture, his editing skills, the way he looks at her, his silent acts of service, how he reacted hearing Mokha say he wasn't like Kiho, and how he's working behind the scenes to achieve Mokha's dream.
The show has set up Bogeol to be the main lead with childhood connection from the get-go, so this isn't a Start Up situation. I think the writer learned from her mistakes. I would also say that Woohak is more than just a SML who doesn't end up with the girl. This is more of his self-discovery story and less of a love triangle. I guess Woohak knows he stands no chance with Mokha since childhood connection runs deep, and would likely want Bogeol to be happy with her after everything. When he finds out that Bogeol likes Mokha, he'd take a step back.
In ep 6, I think Woohak was just sad and apologetic after finding out all his family went through and how they tried to protect him. He's trying to figure out who he is (and was). His offhandish behaviour in earlier eps might die down as he matures, and he might step up to protect his family from evil dad
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vienibenmio
November 14, 2023 at 6:49 AM
You summarized the parallels between BG and KH so succinctly! I wonder if people are forgetting that KH wasn't exactly warm and fuzzy when he first met MH as a kid.
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honeybean
November 14, 2023 at 7:20 AM
Yes! She described him as a money-grubbing lunatic, and her friend called him a jerk. But he slowly warmed up to her. Tsundere in the past, tsundere even now
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Kafiyah Bello
November 14, 2023 at 8:26 AM
I remember that too, which is why it is so weird people are calling him a jerk, CHJ is doing a great job mirroring the teenage version of Ki Ho. They act the same.
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vienibenmio
November 14, 2023 at 8:37 AM
Personality and their interactions also are parallels. Every scene between MH and BG is a mirror of something that happened between them when they were younger
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Britney
November 14, 2023 at 12:55 PM
I like CHJ's expressions; he makes faces like "did you really just say that to me? seriously?" haha
I think that was especially on display when Mok Ha was saying how he couldn't be Ki Ho.
Also when he was dealing with the manager and the singer post tantrum.
Sidenote: imagine being called a thug because you told a singer they had to actually sing haha
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Lelly19
November 14, 2023 at 7:13 AM
You summed it all up so well!! ^^
And I especially agree about Woohak! I really hope his storyline will have more depth than just the typical rejected SML.
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bunnylita
November 14, 2023 at 7:17 AM
This is exactly what I got from the show as well. It's been obvious for a minute and episode six just confirmed it.
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OhSoEnthusiastic
November 14, 2023 at 4:22 PM
I didn't even think about the fact that Ki Ho's friends from school were discussing whether they should tell him what his father is up to. How could they tell him if they weren't still in touch with him? And if they are in touch with him, then that implies he still has his memory.
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vienibenmio
November 15, 2023 at 6:08 AM
He also kept waiting for MH at the station long after the memory loss would have occurred (e.g., after military service)
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OhSoEnthusiastic
November 15, 2023 at 9:34 AM
Yeah. That's one of the main reasons I've been 99% positive since early on that Bo Geol was Ki Ho. He can't keep showing up at the station if he doesn't have his memory.
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13 LaurenSophie
November 14, 2023 at 7:01 AM
As I said elsewhere, the takeaway from these episodes is that Bo-gyeol is Ki-ho (he's not the one who woke up in that hospital, and the one who woke up in the hospital is the one without a memory. Therefore, Woo-hak = Chae-ho and Bo-gyeol = Ki-ho, which is what the show seems to have been suggesting all along with a few red herrings thrown in along the way). More than that, I think Mok-ha knows BG is Ki-ho, or at least strongly suspects he is, and that was one twist that made me immediately like her much more. She's savvy and smart, but so much of the writing so far has shown her to be more like a loyal puppy instead and that's a shame.
I like the burgeoning romance between BG and MH, and especially appreciated the way he took charge of the lip syncing situation as a way to encourage MH not to abandon her dream of becoming a singer. However, I think it's a little odd that the show has suggested from the start that the only guy for Mok Ha is Ki-ho. They met when they were in middle school, and although if they had remained together things might have turned romantic in time, it's odd to me--in a drama filled with odd things like the FL living on an island for 15 years, lol--that a) until WH said it, nobody had considered the fact that this guy in his 30s could now be married or dating someone and b) that MH couldn't at this point just fall in love with any random guy--why does her romantic partner have to be him?
The lurking dad stuff makes me very nervous, especially since Woo-hak seems determined to be a hero here. But a guy who taps phones and releases hornets to cause a crash is a psychopath, so that confrontation could never go well. At the same time, I'm not sure what Evil Dad wants here. Why is he so obsessed with finding Ki-ho but not his other son? What does he expect will happen when he does find him? Ki-ho's an adult now and Evil Dad is no longer a police officer, either. So I'm not sure what he thinks he's going to do to or against him.
Finally, I wish former manager guy wasn't so nakedly mercenary and gleeful over his supposed sabotage of Rin Joo. In previous episodes I got the vibe that he had been in love with her, and that maybe they even had dated at some point. But now he's just a straight-up corporate antagonist.
Oh, and do boars attack people? They seem to do so in a lot of kdramas but is that accurate?
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vienibenmio
November 14, 2023 at 7:11 AM
Apparently boars are very territorial
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GetawayJunkie
November 14, 2023 at 7:19 AM
Yes boars do attack people. There have been cases of injuries from boar attacks in my home country.
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john
November 14, 2023 at 7:25 AM
Boars can attack and it would be bad if they decide to. They aren’t lying in wait to pounce like a big cat or a pack attack like dogs or wolves would, but they could attack in a defensive manner.
The boys in Lord of the Flies kill a wild pig with spears, which in reality, Mok-ha, after 15 years, would probably be adept with a spear.
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💜🍍☠ Sicarius The Queen of Melonia ☠🍍💜
November 15, 2023 at 3:28 PM
Yeah dammit where's Meok Ha with a spear.
Might I just add, in general, across the whole of film and TV, not enough spear representation as a weapon, or any polearm for that matter, and I'll probably die mad about it.
I will always love and respect the mythic and symbolic weight of the Noble Sword, but please.
I am very off topic now...
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FlourPower
November 14, 2023 at 9:38 AM
King Robert Baratheon (Game of Thrones) was killed by one. (So it must be true!)
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DancingEmma
November 14, 2023 at 10:48 AM
@LaurenSophie: Lately, every time I hear about a boar, the comical one in a Berlin park being chased by a nudist comes to my mind: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/aug/07/german-nudist-chases-wild-boar-that-stole-laptop-berlin-teufelssee?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other
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LaurenSophie
November 14, 2023 at 11:34 AM
OMG--that picture! Still laughing over here.
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DancingEmma
November 14, 2023 at 11:45 AM
I wanted you to laugh so mission accomplished!
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Lelly19
November 14, 2023 at 1:09 PM
ahahahahah!!!!
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latebloomer
November 14, 2023 at 10:56 AM
"Why does her romantic partner have to be him?" -
Because this is Kdramaland, and there is nothing stronger than a childhood connection, especially a childhood connection that ties into a traumatic experience. No one ever cared for MH as much as KH. No one ever encouraged her as much as KH. He had 15 years surrounded by other people, and could have moved on -- but he blamed himself for her death, and spent those years looking for her. She had 15 years to live with her memories, and KH could only have become more important to her in that time.
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LaurenSophie
November 14, 2023 at 11:35 AM
I meant it more as a rhetorical question but I appreciate your response. I understand that this is a very typical kdrama convention, but in this iteration of it, there are some aspects that I'm struggling to buy. But as I said, the whole premise of the show is completely unbelievable, and I'm willing to roll with it. I like BG and MH together, too.
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OhSoEnthusiastic
November 14, 2023 at 4:27 PM
I don't know about boars, but if they are anything like wild hogs in the US, they will kill you if they can.