Team Dramabeans: What we’re watching (September 16, 2023)
by DB Staff
So, what are we all watching this week?
What kept you reaching for more (or agonizing when there was no more), and what made you want to throw your remote through the screen? Time to weigh in…
missvictrix
Destined With You: *taps mic* I’m fully prepared to admit: Rowoon does things to me! I thought initially it was just his character and the setup in Sunbae, Don’t Put on That Lipstick, or in The King’s Affection, but now the third time is proving it: he’s just so sincere at portraying falling in helpless, adoring love onscreen that it makes me all kinds of verklempt. As for the plot, I feel so strangely crestfallen that the spells weren’t real. Like, say what, Show? I was, and continue to be, so completely ready to suspend disbelief and believe in them… so while I’m sad, I also love how they’re playing it, and how the logic is being held a bit loosely on purpose (so maybe they’re real after all…). I’m also deeply relieved we still have half our drama to go. Because while that does mean there’s a chance for all hell to break loose, I really just want to hang out in this story for many more episodes.
My Lovely Boxer: Do you hear that sound? It’s the sound of my bean counter, and this drama swiftly collecting 90% of my 2023 beans.
Dramaddictally
Destined With You: I should not have watched Episode 8 while I was trying to go to sleep. It had my stomach in knots, checking to make sure my door was locked. On a lighter note, Episode 7 was a trove of Treasure Hunts past! We got a camping couple and then we saw our male lead realize he’s saved as Groot in our heroine’s phone, lol.
My Lovely Boxer: Lee Sang-yeob this week was just wow. “Don’t come near me. You’ll get hurt.” Man, those were some loaded words that had nothing to do with the broken glass.
A Time Called You: What the lack of logic just happened? I was so utterly addicted to the first 8 episodes but then when the real reveals started I felt like it just fell off a cliff. The pros: Rowoon’s cameo. The cons: why was it only a cameo?! I really wanted to know about the life of those characters and it didn’t make sense to me that the story didn’t go there. Overall, it seemed like a jumble when it came to deciding which storylines were important and which weren’t just so the show could be clever with the timeline. Nope, sorry, it didn’t work for me. I was more impressed with being transported back to the 90s myself with chewed-up cassettes and those little red ribbons that pop the batteries out of a tape player.
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1 miso
September 16, 2023 at 5:00 AM
COMPLETED
The First Responders 2 - It's over. I did it. I'm freeeee 🥳.
ONGOING
Behind Your Touch - I love how the show is continuing to balance humour and mystery - the 'Butt of Truth' mixed with all those revelations 😂. Only mis-step was the way Ji-suk died - just made no sense.
My Lovely Liar - In the year 2023 we're still getting token LGBT characters becoming murderers out of unrequited love 😐.
My Lovely Boxer - The suicide surprised me but it adds a good layer to the betting mafia story now that Tae-young is trying to catch them. But ugh for Jae-min being back next week. Why aren't we done with him yet?
Moving - I'm still vibrating from the nerves I had watching this week's episodes. Excited for more badass Mihyun next week. The finale is going to be SO good.
Destined With You - I have no idea what I'm watching with this show. The plot is all over the place.
Planning to try out The Kidnapping Day.
C-DRAMAS
Completed Fake It Till You Make It. The OTP and the story were both perfect until the end.
Also completed The Legend of Zhuohua, which suffered from too many episodes but was still a solid story.
Didn't get time for Sunshine By My Side and My Journey to You. Will binge both over the weekend.
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Dorotka
September 16, 2023 at 5:16 AM
I have Sunshine and My Journey on my backlog as well, but need to finish Lost You Forever first... my Real Life is unfortunately too busy right now. 😭
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miso
September 16, 2023 at 5:43 AM
Same. There has been an unusually high number of good to great c-dramas this year and I'm so behind due to real life 😭.
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Seon-ha
September 16, 2023 at 5:17 AM
Deeply resonant lllooollll…you can join @lapislazulii and myself in the “completist-masochist” club, clearly 🤨
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miso
September 16, 2023 at 5:44 AM
I am already a card-carrying member of the club! Hugs to fellow members 🤗.
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Isa is always time travelling
September 16, 2023 at 6:07 AM
I am another completist-masochist.
Autumn resolutions: dropping more, dropping more and dropping more 😅
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wonhwa
September 16, 2023 at 7:27 AM
It also took me a while to realize I could just drop things, but I have been much happier in my drama watching since.
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Minnie🫘👩🏻🚀Pioneer and Teacher 👩🏻🏫🌱🏹
August 16, 2024 at 4:21 PM
😂
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Asha13
September 17, 2023 at 7:17 AM
I would invite @oldlawyer, @welh and @kathryn51 to join this club. I skipped episode 50 of the real, so I may not qualify lol
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icelandsoon
September 16, 2023 at 8:35 AM
Loving sunshine by my side - I think I’m one of the recommenders - but do feel free to fast forward (ahem hockey couple). Can’t believe it’s wrapping up this weekend. Love these leads!
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miso
September 16, 2023 at 8:41 AM
I'm liking it too! But life got in the way and I haven't moved past Ep. 13. Will definitely binge in full now that it'll be over soon (with generous FFing where needed 😛).
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Ziziboice
September 16, 2023 at 6:47 PM
So agree with you on "moving" (the only drama I'm watching rn) but I'm still keeping an eye on "my lovely liar" from faaaaar away too kkk
Anyway what's wrong with a "LGBT character becoming a murderer because of unrequited love"? We saw tons of murderers in dramas who were straight ppl becoming murderer because of unrequited love it's almost a cliche in kdramas. Yes it was out of nowhere and a bad twist in the story but not because the character is a LGBT person because it was not a good move to solve mysteries imo. Anyway thank you for your review
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2 jerrykuvira
September 16, 2023 at 5:00 AM
Dinner Mate - Jae-hyuk got on my nerves in many ways more than one. Hae-kyung's mom's death shocked me to the bones. I didn't like how No-eul wasn't let in the know about her death. It was a far stretch.
Moving - Bong-seok flew🤭🤭🤭. It's gonna be lit and fire next week.
Destined With You - So what's up with the spell? I thought cure disease worked so what's this development we are getting now.
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Seon-ha
September 16, 2023 at 5:20 AM
Jerry, in every real sense why do we have a plot in DWY? Shouldn’t it all be fixed now? They’re in love, he’s healed, done!! 😀😂
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Elinor, Team Glasses team co-captain
September 16, 2023 at 8:26 AM
The only reason I can think of is: he's healed but the family curse isn't lifted, so they still have to deal with all the past-life stuff and present-day stalkery stuff, however that ties in, to finally end the curse. But if that's the case, the show needs to just say so!
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3 Unaspirated
September 16, 2023 at 5:00 AM
Live Watches
My Lovely Liar: Hoping we get Deuk-chan’s whole story this week, and it turns out to be complicated and fraught and riddled with mistakes. Also hoping that we get a nice musical conclusion for Do-ha, Convenience Store Guy, Former Idol Hyung, and even, because I’m feeling generous, Sha-on. Jazz Club Ajusshi doesn’t need a good ending, he’s already doing great.
The Uncanny Counter 2: I put my live watch on hold, but now I’m back at it. I love the characters so much that I’m willing to overlook some other things that are not as great, and even when the overall story isn’t thrilling me, I’m still loving the moments we have between our counters as they navigate this unknown situation.
The Killing Vote: Haven’t had a chance to watch this week, so this is up next! Turns out having a new job really sucks your free time away. Who would have thought?
Moving: My initial plan was to wait for this to come out completely and then watch, but my non-drama-watching partner asked me if any Beanies were talking about it because he’s been hearing about it through non-kdrama media and was interested. And when my partner asks me to watch a kdrama with him - how could I possibly refuse? We are slowly plugging away, mostly on the weekend, but it’s been fantastic so far. Just as good as everyone said it would be.
Older Dramas
The Secret Romantic Guesthouse: Even Yoo-ha turned out to be a more interesting character than I was expecting! And I loved that our girl’s mad archery skills came in clutch in the end. I gotta say: I usually dread the final episode time-jump, but this might have been the best use of it I’ve ever seen. We get to see the people who already knew what they wanted happy and together, the people who had to grow into new roles have grown into them, and the people who needed a minute to figure things out had a chance to do just that before tying it all up in a pretty bow. Shout out goes to (I never thought I’d say this) the Dowager Queen, for enduring more tragedy than anyone else, but being absolutely ready to grab whatever joy was offered to her, and to figure out how to protect what was important, both in the country and in her family.
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Seon-ha
September 16, 2023 at 5:23 AM
*grumble* jobs *grumble*
Really? Moving has made it past the blood-k-drama-obsessed-brain barrier into the Real World™????? That’s amazing!! I can totally see why, but didn’t know that had happened. Make sure you comment on the recaps as you go (if I can be bossy)…they’re filled with great Beanies, but not very extensive. I bet a lot of us would go back and respond (to remember and recap the recap, so to speak) if you posted.
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indyfan
September 16, 2023 at 6:44 AM
I'm surprised too. K-dramas are all the rage where I am. But anything on Disney? Crickets.
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Unaspirated
September 16, 2023 at 6:53 AM
Yes! Polygon had a really nice article about it (and how it’s way better than anything Marvel has come up with lately), so it popped up onto his radar.
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Unaspirated
September 16, 2023 at 6:50 AM
Good to know! I haven’t been reading the weecaps in this case, but I’ll have to go back and check them out.
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PYC
September 16, 2023 at 6:59 AM
As another Beanie commented, Moving is a classics in the making. It will be a massive hit bigger than Squid Game if streamed on Netflix. Its fantasy component is of course top notch and superbly delivered but the greatest asset is its laser focus on people, parental love and family values - the heart and soul that’s lacking in Squid Game.
The production value is almost unmatched when compared with other big budget kdrama production.
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Blue (@mayhemf)
September 16, 2023 at 7:08 AM
The production is incredible. And the show brings so much warmth to the characters. I slowed down a bit in the middle but hoping to watch a few more episodes this weekend.
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4 HopefulRomantic 🦋 Tigermoth 🦞
September 16, 2023 at 5:01 AM
Ongoing:
Han River Police: I tried this out of curiosity because I thought it might be like the drama version of Extreme Job, but, you know, on a river... First impressions: sometimes funny (that absolutely CHAOTIC training exercise that descended into madness), but mostly dumb fun, with a good cast. I'm guessing it will get darker and more violent as we uncover more crimes and conspiracy, so I'll see how long I hold on.
Previously-Aired:
Showtime Begins: (through ep 3) I'm taking a similar approach as I did with Bring it On, Ghost, and using FF through all the scary stuff. The FL could be a little less shouty for my taste, but other than that, it's fun so far! I really like Park Hae Jin, and I'm enjoying the comedy, and I love Park Hae Jin's approach to physical comedy - he's like a grumpy stork 😂
Mad Dog: (through ep 3) It really hasn't gripped me yet, but I don't mind, because I'm watching for Woo Do Hwan 😁 @attiton and I are doing a watch-and-chat on the fanwall; join us if you want to watch, too!
Dropped:
Welp, I've dropped so many dramas this week that are past my thresholds for certain things... (1) To the Destined With You writers, doubling-down on the cheating/affair approach was NOT the right choice; bye 👋 (2) After taking a "wait and see" approach, I'm not continuing with Moving because of the graphic, pervasive violence. It's a good drama with a great cast, but I don't want to push myself past what I'm willing to take in with regard to violence. (3) I'm also not continuing Someday or One Day because the sadness affects me too much (and I'll be skipping A Time Called You for the same reason). It's hard to drop good dramas, but I also want to respect my emotional boundaries for what I can handle in what I watch! Shoutout to @mindy, 🙌 who had a very timely reminder on her fanwall about dropping dramas that just aren't right for you!
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lapislazulii
September 16, 2023 at 5:08 AM
Glad you're enjoying Now It's Showtime!!
And good on you for respecting your boundaries, it's so important to do that and I for one never do it enough (and then suffer as a consequence) - 👏 for the reminder about self-care and self-love!!
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HopefulRomantic 🦋 Tigermoth 🦞
September 16, 2023 at 5:13 AM
Aww thanks @lapislazulii! 🥰 It's hard - I do get FOMO hearing Beanies enjoying a drama I've dropped - but I want to acknowledge the things that bother me in a plot, if it means it should be a drop for me. I am open to eventually finishing DWY and Moving (*with FF*) depending on how they handle things... but for now, I'll enjoy reading Beanies reacting to them 😊
And thank you again for plugging Now It's Showtime - I'm enjoying it very much!!!
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Babylilo
September 16, 2023 at 6:47 AM
I find that what most often keeps me watching a drama I'm not enjoying is positive buzz from the DB community; I keep thinking that there must be something I'm just not seeing. It's taken some time, but I've grown more comfortable about going with what I'm actually feeling about a show vs. what I think I should be feeling. Despite how many people have told me how much they love Brussels sprouts, I've eaten them enough times to know they're not for me! 🤮
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HopefulRomantic 🦋 Tigermoth 🦞
September 16, 2023 at 6:51 AM
Ohhh... "going with what I'm actually feeling about a show vs. what I think I should be feeling" 👈 that is SUCH a good distinction, Babylilo!!! Sometimes it's hard to disentangle one from the other.
Elinor, Team Glasses team co-captain
September 16, 2023 at 8:43 AM
I think I just heard you compare Rowoon to Brussels sprouts. 😆
Babylilo
September 16, 2023 at 9:06 AM
I’ve only seen Rowoon in Tomorrow, which is not enough of a sampling to put him the Brussels sprouts category just yet. Rather than individual actors, my Kdrama Brussels sprouts tend to be genres, which generally include shows described as “wacky” or “idol drama.”
Ahjummaaa
September 16, 2023 at 11:17 AM
I have mixed feelings about brussels sprouts. I feel like they get some things right (cute size and sweet&bitter taste) but some things wrong (texure: either undercooked/ too hard or overcooked/ mushy) It's so hard to get the texture just right when cooking brussel sprouts. And they taste bad if you don't eat them immediately after roasting. So I thought it was just me being picky. But then I went to Thailand and had a vegetable that is very similar to brussel sprouts with the qualities that I love about them: sweet, slightly bitter, leafy. But without the qualities I didn't like about them! These Thai style brussel sprouts are easy to cook to the right texture. I forget the exact name, but they're like brussel sprouts but the leaves are opened, not tightly bunched together. The texture is so good compared to brussel sprouts. I realized then that brussel sprouts was a proximity infatuation. It was close to perfection but had some design issues.
Babylilo
September 16, 2023 at 11:24 AM
Whenever I would mention to someone that I didn’t like Brussels sprouts, invariably they’d tell me I’d never tasted them properly prepared. Then I’d try them at their favorite restaurant and still hate them. (BTW - I’m not a picky eater and am open to trying unfamiliar foods.) I’ll have to look into the Thai variety. I had a similar experience with okra; I didn’t like it until I had the Chinese version, which is now a dish I almost always order whenever I’m at a Chinese restaurant.
indyfan
September 16, 2023 at 5:15 AM
I think many beanies rightly wrote that Someday is about grief that spans time. That's hard. But A Time Called You is about a love that spans time. You'll be plenty sad along the way, but you'll be all right in the end. But to echo what Lapis said, you need to respect your boundaries.
I'd love to join you and Seon-ha on some other group drama watch one day. Mad Dog isn't for me.
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HopefulRomantic 🦋 Tigermoth 🦞
September 16, 2023 at 5:26 AM
Thank you @indyfan 🥰 And I have so many older/previously-aired dramas on my Watchlist, we should definitely do another group watch-and-chat!
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Seon-ha
September 16, 2023 at 5:31 AM
I’ll go one further. Knowing that @indyfan would join in means that we should consider planning the next one with her (in mind) to ensure this critically important participation!!!
Indy, I don’t want to get too ahead of myself as I have Mad Dog to
slog throughget to (they promise it gets better!!!), but do you have a drama that you’d like to watch in community?Everyone should also know that I promise to be less verbose than I was in week one of Mad Dog. I just get so excited to talk.
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indyfan
September 16, 2023 at 6:52 AM
Hm. You've all probably seen everything I haven't. But a few off the top of my head: Unlock My Boss, Into the Ring, Startup, Extraordinary You... I can come up with more later. But better if y'all share your list and we can all cross-check. After Mad Dog ofc.
HopefulRomantic 🦋 Tigermoth 🦞
September 16, 2023 at 7:57 AM
OMO @indyfan - Unlock My Boss and Into the Ring are two of my absolute favorites... if you watch those, I may rewatch them (again) 😁😁😁
indyfan
September 16, 2023 at 8:09 AM
@hopefulromantic *you* are one of the reasons they're on the top of my list. but we should watch something new for all of us. something good but obscure. i can't name it, but that's because it's obscure.
HopefulRomantic 🦋 Tigermoth 🦞
September 16, 2023 at 8:23 AM
@indyfan hmm I may have mentioned those dramas once or twice 🤔 Haha!
We should compare lists on the fanwall somewhere after Mad Dog!
Linarrick
September 17, 2023 at 2:21 AM
Curious if @indyfan @attiton @hopefulromantic watched Ex-Girlfriends' Club? It’s a romantic comedy, and kinda underrated in my opinion
Seon-ha
September 17, 2023 at 4:05 AM
@linarrick I’ve not!
HopefulRomantic 🦋 Tigermoth 🦞
September 17, 2023 at 4:08 AM
@linarrick - that one hasn't been on my list yet.
Linarrick
September 17, 2023 at 4:19 AM
@hopefulromantic @attiton@indyfan The drama doesn’t feature a serial killer I promise! Also it’s only 12 episodes, was actually cut down due to low ratings but I’d argue that was a good thing for the show as it didn’t drag.
Here the link to the review:
https://www.dramabeans.com/2015/06/ex-girlfriend-club-series-review/
indyfan
September 17, 2023 at 6:35 AM
@linarrick I have never heard of it. Will check it out. Thank you.
Seon-ha
September 16, 2023 at 5:28 AM
How great that you know, but also 🤙maintain🙌your🫰emotional boundaries!!!
Teach me. Teach me! 😘
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HopefulRomantic 🦋 Tigermoth 🦞
September 16, 2023 at 5:36 AM
Haha Seon-ha 🥰 I think part of knowing my thresholds is, if a drama makes me feel icky, anxious, or angry long after I'm not watching an episode - if it lingers into real life, so to speak - and the payoff doesn't feel like a good emotional price to pay - that's generally a tipping point for me.
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Seon-ha
September 16, 2023 at 5:49 AM
But how do you stop wanting to know if they FIX IT in the end? That’s what gets me. I want the show to make me feel better—I mean it got me into this mess in the first place—by figuring out its shit and resolving my personal issues.
Oh, I think I see the problem.
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HopefulRomantic 🦋 Tigermoth 🦞
September 16, 2023 at 6:06 AM
😂❤️
Babylilo
September 16, 2023 at 6:53 AM
...wanting to know if they FIX IT in the end?
You can spare yourself the angst and read the recaps!
Unaspirated
September 16, 2023 at 8:28 AM
This is such a good measure! My most recent drop, I was still pretty annoyed the next day, so it fits that criterion perfectly.
Has Dramabeans ever had a larger discussion about how Beanies decide to stick with a drama or drop it? I’d love to have one (maybe in a Drama Chat post?) if it hasn’t happened yet. Just kind of organize all the different strategies into one place!
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Dorotka
September 16, 2023 at 5:30 AM
Yes, I also thought it would be like Extreme Job! I may not even try then... 😒
I think with dramas it is like with love, timing is extremely important. When my mom passed away, there were dramas/movies I just was not able to watch, regardless how great they were. And then, some time later, there were dramas, like Someday Or One Day, or It's a Little Spicy Today (I forgot the English title, Recipe for Farewell?), which came at the right time and resonated with me and my inner grief.
So... like with love, follow your heart. 😘❤️
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HopefulRomantic 🦋 Tigermoth 🦞
September 16, 2023 at 5:40 AM
That's such good advice, @dorotka! ❤️ I think you're right that timing in life makes a difference in dramas resonating with us or not.
And don't worry - Han River Police is not like Extreme Job 😅
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Babylilo
September 16, 2023 at 5:53 AM
It's interesting to see how different people define their boundaries; what pushes their emotional buttons enough to make them drop a show. Despite the characters' struggles and heartbreaks, Someday or One Day did not make me particularly sad—not even the ending.
My tolerance for violence depends on the context. What often upsets me most is the "casual" violence—typically women hitting their children, siblings, or spouses, or men smacking their male subordinates—that seems so common in Kdramas and is sometimes even played for laughs. I often find it worse than the stabbings, gang fights, etc., and I certainly never find it amusing.
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ar_arguably romantic
September 16, 2023 at 7:42 AM
I really enjoyed Showtime Begins and it wasn't one of those dramas that got much buzz, so I'm glad you're enjoying it a year after it airs!
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HopefulRomantic 🦋 Tigermoth 🦞
September 16, 2023 at 8:00 AM
Yes it's great fun so far, and I'm really enjoying the vibe/chemistry between the ML and FL! I really liked Park Hae Jin as a romantic lead in Forest, and he was hilarious with his physical comedy in Man to Man, and this drama seems like it combines both of those things!!😁
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5 Seon-ha
September 16, 2023 at 5:01 AM
LIVE WATCHES
Destined with You
I’m all in. Too far in. I will be hurt by this drama, but right now…don’t care.
Moving
I am going to take @mellowarmadillo’s advice and wait until the last three have dropped so I can see the whole “ending” arc.
My Lovely Liar
…is dead to me. I’ll probably watch the episodes next week, but only because I said I would AND I’m a masochist-completist. This past week’s episodes actually ruined my sleep.
FROM THE RESERVES
Mad Dog
I’ve picked up my viewing of this drama for the low-stakes community fan wall community convo! Yay!
ON DECK
My Liberation Notes
Still waiting for the chaos of my life to be solved for good. Too high a bar??
PS: Tried Han River Police but it’s not my thing. I may pick up Kidnapping Day (or whatever they’re calling it now), but probably need to wait a week or two to see how the writer/PD plans to unfold the scenario. It could easily hit too close to home on one of my greatest fears.
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lapislazulii
September 16, 2023 at 5:10 AM
masochist-completist -> omg this is the term I needed, describes me to a T
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indyfan
September 16, 2023 at 5:18 AM
I feel so relieved I dropped MLL a while ago after hearing its recent turn. I shouldn't gloat tho. I might get to use the tag for DWY soon enough. LOL.
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Seon-ha
September 16, 2023 at 5:50 AM
Oh, you have so many Internet Friends who will report to you how it goes. I’ve learned that there are sufficient DWY lovers and “accepters” that my gifs are still welcome…so you can also look to those to keep you apprised 😇
I am here to encourage other people to drop when I, clearly, cannot. I shall live vicariously through others—which is probably related to why I can’t drop shows. See a *mess,* that’s what I am.
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indyfan
September 16, 2023 at 6:56 AM
You won't get rid of me that easily! Well, at least till the next round of episodes. 😂 Plus, I'd miss out on all the gifs, memes, fan wall chatter. I'm already missing @hopefulromantic contributions. But I'll Hopeful in the next drama.
6 cat-cric-kat
September 16, 2023 at 5:01 AM
CRICKET - Kiwis did such good introduction of their team. Stokes - woah - time to shine
I'm still waiting for the media PR, buzz and hype that should be there for a world cup in a festival season. Where are brands and companies. As common sense say a few of Sports journaists have written articles about how upcoming Cricket sport event will be another political campaign, image buildup event management. This now happens with every sport event. Everyone loves to milk such opportunities but in Cricket it becomes frustrating because 70% of revenue if coming from India - the big 3 - India, England and Austrlaia are criticised for taken most share of earnings and they dictate terms of everything. Earlier it was England and Australia and now india with hefty money hand. Money speaks and speaks louder but it never benefits the sport at all. It's the female cricket that actually brought cricket to more regions compared to male cricket and it when there is almost no infrastructure and support for female cricket almost all regions.
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cat-cric-kat
September 16, 2023 at 5:11 AM
JAPAN - New dramas coming but Marie's tv show is good even with all the foolish drama that is so not needed
Hikari's tv show - 4.5/10 - from what angle you add love in this drama - Hikari's attires surely are simple, natural and good.
Johnny's idols drama - 4/10 - dumb but hero team winning timepass.
Few weeks back i talked about Johnny's - same - If you ever visited internet groups - read gossip magazines or rumours then you must have known what they do and how they do and how much power they have - This month hasn't gone good for johnny's after losing business everywhere and yet they are shilling aka promoting thei idol's movies and dramas so easily. shows the power and relationships build over time - scratch each other's back. This is why you see Johnny's idols in every show, drama n movie - lots n lots of behinds the scenes action - but that's what media industry for you - You just feel like mocking the lunatic fans who put them on pedestal when all these idols are no better than shit.
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cat-cric-kat
September 16, 2023 at 5:26 AM
TURKISH - Family drama - romance drama - marriage event.
KOREA - Need to say anything - garbage all around
Weekend - new drama - Uee - Let's if it has atleast some story or not.
Become a sports agent and get around pretty girls or be a hero. From horny heroines to the ones warming the bed - dramas haven't gone anywhere. still horny vs. bed vs. trolly which one is better.
ARTH - Kim ok Bin is driving the story with minimal of screentime - that shows how poor 1st week was. cliche switching not doing much. Still the best of the month.
Nam Gong Min - does shit shows but his characters eat max. screentime - he's smart and so is his manager - More the visibility more the brand value - His characters usually are your typical korean heros and his style is actually imposed on characters - This is superficial self-insert to engage wth audience. This just helps him come out at top - This is smart move and well crafted image that generates double ratings but the max. benefit is also reserved for him. Good business but nothing much to put on table as for acting n skills.
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cat-cric-kat
September 16, 2023 at 5:32 AM
CHINA -
My journey to you - 4/10 - stupid drama - cliche over cliche - good concept but very bad story n plot as well as execution - all prop, more face value - less on substance.
South Wind Blows - 4.5/10 - typical generic chinese omance but toned down a bit.
Korea - Cinema - Moon - 4/10 - stupid soap cinema - U can see the level of audience too through this trash because they can't fathom much about SPACE - overly dramatic, sentimental, convenient, illogical - full of glycerin tears - more ignorance and superficial - easy to know this a korean media - so much nonsense that u feel headache.
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7 Dorotka
September 16, 2023 at 5:02 AM
I was ready to dive into A Time Called You (and into the discussions and comparisons with the original drama afterwards)... but... then Fake It Till You Make It happened and I put everything else on pause. This is a drama which grows on you and when it does you just can't leave it. It's also one of the few cdramas when I wish I could speak the language as I felt some nuances and wordplays were lost in translation. That still didn't prevent me from loving the main couple and having this huge crush on Tang Ying, she is joining my other girl crushes - Kim Samsoon and Gu Sera. No wonder Elvis was so smitten (and immediately bought that famous friendship ring, ha). He finally found someone with whom he could be himself, and in love, no games played. Their talks were the best parts... and the two confessions I have on repeat. They Are So BEAUTIFUL! ❤️
Destined
I still had fun, yes, I'm not above some petty shuffling of the chairs, 😁 but.... I also got quite disappointed this week. The show chose some paths I didn't want it to tread... and (together with Rowoon) is unfortunately loosing its Spell over me. I'm still hoping it will Get a Grip.
No time for anything else and from the little of the buzz about Liar I managed to catch I should maybe spent those 2 hours elsewhere? Like... on Han River Police?? 😆
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Dorotka
September 16, 2023 at 5:07 AM
I forgot to add, what was that Shin-yu's remark about Hongjo's name, that he wrongly assumed that her name meant Red? Is there some connection with the Hand? Like... he fantasised about Hongjo??
Or is my mind treading the wrong
gutterpath as well?? 🙈#Destined
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Seon-ha
September 16, 2023 at 6:07 AM
The “hong” can mean red—Jae-kyung also made that connection when she blushed in an early episode. What I felt Hong-Jo did in that moment (if I can be cheesy for a sec) is “change her destiny.” It’s assumed that she’s one type of woman from her name, but she knows her father meant something else for her to live up to….
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Dorotka
September 16, 2023 at 6:20 AM
I was more focused on the Redness. 😁
Do you think it is just a coincidence or that there is some connection with the Red Hand??
(Though I'm not sure why I'm trying to find some logic in this show. 😆)
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Seon-ha
September 16, 2023 at 6:39 AM
I really haven’t thought the Red Hand through, I think, in part, because I’m worried that it’s going to end up being a MacGuffin rather than something interesting.
If I were to guess, though, hmm. Well, having made gifs of those scenes, I’ve seen them a LOT. There’s definitely (sexual) comfort, but also fear.
Maybe what I’d do is connect this thought to @ceciliedk ‘s incisive comments above about SY being, for all intents and purposes, isolated and alone—but craving real companionship.
I mean, in its own way, the Red Hand may be serving the same purpose for SY as chaebol dude is for NY…comfort without connection.
As to where the Red Hand comes from, it’s his own twisted fantasy of what it must feel like to be “with” someone. He talks about it with that doctor in the benighted “neural coupling” conversation. He is getting a taste of what that’s actually like with HJ, though…and there’ll be no going back :)
darwi
September 16, 2023 at 12:51 PM
Thanks to your comment on Fake it, I have been able to convince my watching friend to watch it with me. We are behind, because she's not as taken as us but I don't mind since it give me more time to appreciate it. In a sea of disappointing drama, this one stands out.
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8 lapislazulii
September 16, 2023 at 5:05 AM
Still watching my usual roster of My Lovely Liar (is falling apart a little bit for me), Destined With You (going strong mess and all) and have Moving on hold while the rest of the season airs so I can binge the last few episodes. 36000 Seconds In A Day also put on hold because I was a bit busy this week and couldn't fit it in :(
I've now also just started (like literally today) Fake It Till You Make It thanks to the Beanie hype here and CEO-dol Mart. Eyeing Parallel World but till wait till I finish a show before staring it!
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lapislazulii
September 16, 2023 at 5:14 AM
*but I'll wait till
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Seon-ha
September 16, 2023 at 6:08 AM
@mindy really put me off CEO-dol Mart with her smart Fan Wall post. I’ll be interested to hear other comments about it, but if it is, in any way, the way she says it is (cheap and unfunny—my paraphrasing, not her eloquent words)…eek!
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mindy
September 16, 2023 at 6:32 AM
It’s more like it’s just… like I said, it gives off school play vibes lol. You have all these very inexperienced actors/idols who are probably trying their very best with a super simple script. Everything from the acting to the directing to the writing screams “rookie” and “web drama”.
I just don’t really have the patience for that sort of vibe. I’m sure others will find it charming. 😉 All these people have to learn their craft somewhere, so if this is a learning vehicle for the next generation, I think that’s good. I just won’t be watching, lol!
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Reply1988 -❣️Mother Bean❣️
September 16, 2023 at 6:39 AM
Thanks for the DB Wooga squad community service directing us to Mindy’s fan wall post on this drama.
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9 Radily
September 16, 2023 at 5:06 AM
The Kidnapping Day (Episode 1-2) - Mood: C+
It’s almost a pity that the narrative seems to be leaning towards an all-out conspiracy surrounding Ro Hee’s father as there is so much fun watching the dynamic between Ro Hee and Myung Jun. Now that she knows the truth, it could become quite interesting to see her maintain her own kidnapping. But I fear there might be sci-fi elements too with the brain thing and all.
My Lovely Liar (Episode 13-14) - Mood: D
This is just Crash Course in Romance all over again with the obsessive best-friend-cum-employer being the culprit except with a different motivation driving the fixation. On one hand, I’m glad that Yoon Ji On got to showcase what he is capable of for those who persisted through the show, on the other hand, that’s some interesting LGBT representation.
Destined With You (Episode 7-8) - Mood: D-
They really went and outdid themselves by making the 2FL a hypocritical cheater so that the two-timing ML doesn’t look so bad in comparison? And we know that the Haum CEO will bring about City Hall drama down the road, which is a boring pile of crap I’m not looking forward to with the FL being collateral damage. We’re also stuck with the stalker for one more week.
The Killing Vote (Episode 6) - Mood: D+
I hope Min Soo isn’t the real Gaetal and this is a red herring but it’s not out of the realm of impossibility given that he’s No.1 Fan based on the testimony from Gaetal’s accomplice. And I guess if we go along this route then it’s likely Mu Chan already knew all of this and is just bidding his time to take him down. But yeah, we’ll see if the writer has any tricks up their sleeves.
Moving (Episode 16-17) - Mood: D+
While I can understand why the North Koreans are out for revenge following a political assassination, it doesn’t really make for interesting watching when everything is just theatrical posturing and pointless CGI-enhanced action scenes. Also, we’re near the finale and the show still insists on dragging things out through dramatic cliffhangers: let the story speak for itself?
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Dorotka
September 16, 2023 at 5:39 AM
That they made the SFL cheater (and with such a scumbag) was actually one of my biggest disappointments with the show.
#Destined
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ar_arguably romantic
September 16, 2023 at 7:49 AM
Same. I love the writing in the banter and dialogue for this show, but some of the characterizations made me question the writer's values - so the writer thinks it's okay that the ML is cheating because the 2FL is an even worse cheater? LIke it cancels out or something?
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10 Lord Cobol (Kdramas, like water, flow downhill)
September 16, 2023 at 5:06 AM
Behind Your TouchThe Gum-Butt Show: 8.0 After the recap mentioned "Mouth of Truth" I had to look it up to fully appreciate the "Butt of Truth".A Time Called You: 5.0 (for ep 5 / 7) 💤💤 Still hoping it will live up to the hype, some day or... One problem is the colors are so washed out. I'm used to timey-wimey shows doing that for the past/flashback bits, but here they have the whole thing washed out and they washed away the suspense and excitement too.
My Lovely Liar: 8.5 "Culprit" confesses -- but in day 13. Experienced k-watchers know that's too early and too easy. We could have believed it if he fessed up in day 15. As for who actually did it -- ok; but WHY he seems to have done it 👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎 (unless they pull another twist on us next week). I can be quite tolerant of "politically incorrect" and insensitive things, but where they seem to be going is too much even for me. That ringing in her ears near the end makes me fear that we might not even get any cute case-of-the-week for the show to end on.
My Lovely Boxer: 7.5 Both "Lovely" shows this week had un-lovely suicides or at least attempts.
Moving: 9.5 Han Hyo-joo taking off her glasses at the end of 17!!!
Destined With You: 8.0
Han River Police: 2.0 Not offensively bad, just boring and unoriginal. But at just 6 episodes it's a full Bean for less than half price. Was the cruise ship wreck inspired more by the Sewol or the Costa Concordia?
The Day: 8.5 Everything that Han River isn't.
Killing Vote: 6.0 Can we vote to kill the writers who stick us with bad endings to shows that started well?
Regarding the search for Sol-hee's missing pet turtle in Lovely Liar: turtles are considered auspicious in that part of the world, for reasons such as their longevity, protective shells, etc.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_depictions_of_turtles
But also, in Chinese slang "turtles head" is a guy's pen*s. This is not officially listed as one of the reasons why turtles are considered lucky, but... And I'll never get tired of mentioning that when kdramas give me opportunities like this. Remember it was her love interest who found it.
This week's quiz: which THREE current shows does Kim Hee-won appear in?
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miso
September 16, 2023 at 5:49 AM
Agree about the colour filter thing for A Time Called You. They didn't even do good post-production on it. In one scene, on a bus, their cream-yellow school vests had suddenly become light pink 🤦♀️.
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miso
September 16, 2023 at 5:51 AM
Also to answer the quiz about the ubiquitous Kim Hee-won - Moving, Han River Police, and Behind Your Touch 😅.
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Seon-ha
September 16, 2023 at 6:15 AM
But without her powers, Sol-hee gets to be a regular girl , docile and jobless, just right for our handsome Do-ha so that he might never feel threatened again. Isn’t it great????
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11 welh
September 16, 2023 at 5:07 AM
BUTT TOUCH (Ep 9-10) I think we have been desensitized because of the greater purpose of the butt touching as an investigative tool, abet a warrantless search. It was about time to narrow down the suspect list. Grandpa’s personal investigation of Ye-bun’s parents death and Cha’s success as the new assemblyman even after land scandal is compelling but could be a red herring. The clue about the third psychic at the barn touching metal could mean that he sees memories through a person’s contact with metal objects, like a phone. That puts Seon-Woo in the spotlight, but likely a diversion at this point in the series. Clearly, he has a grudge against Cha.
The Detective’s civilian investigation team was good as we finally got to “see” the logic and progression of narrowing down the suspects. There are coincidences and overlap to find the third psychic but there is still some doubt about the killer. The story this week was hard core crime solving with little of the rural goofiness of the town folk.
COLD BLOODED INTERN (Ep. 9-10) It is getting a little goofy and dark. Of course, Hae-Ra is the star of the company soccer game without knowing how to play. Of course, Choi’s taking dirty orders from her boss in an attempt to get a promotion she will probably not get. She knows she is being used. Of course, Hae-ra tells her not to trust upper management but Choi says she is using them. Of course, Episode 9 ends with a medical emergency for Hae-Ra to handle. Of course, it is waved off at the beginning of Episode 10 only to conclude with the past coming back to haunt both Hae-Ra and Choi. This show is running its course in a very, very basic format.
THE REAL HAS COME AND GONE: Only watched the last third and it was a terrible rage watch.I did like the misery loves company aspect of the Hang-Out group. I do not want to claim a Bean for this one. What is the opposite of a Bean? a) a rock, b) a weed, c) a thorn or d) a grain of sand.
THE COLLAPSE OF DAEWOO (YouTube: K-Doc) A KBS documentary on the collapse of conglomerate Daewoo in 1999 due to massive debt and $43.5 billion accounting fraud. The documentary is a throw back record of how South Korea went from post-war poverty to regional industrial power. The first chaebols believed that exports were the key for economic growth because SK had scant natural resources for manufacturing. Trade goods became the heart of the economy from late 1960s to mid 1980s. Companies were aligned closely with government to push worker sacrifices (like 16 hour work days in a military-cult fashion). In 1987, a worker during a labor strike was killed by police which turned the public against chaebol corporations. In 1997, the IMF crisis wiped out many former large business groups which led to greater public destain of businessmen. It was an interesting film archive of how SK looked and acted prior to the hallyu wave. It did show the cultural reason why chaebols are often the villains in k-dramas. However, a recent poll in...
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welh
September 16, 2023 at 6:08 AM
...in South Korea found 60% of the public admires large corporate chaebols which probably reflects the dreams of many people to make it rich in a down economy.
A TIME CALLED YOU (Ep. 4-12) I was not familiar with the original material, so I will take this remake for its own production and story. The script weaved many elements both dreamlike and real so really cannot tell what is right and which is wrong. There are conflicting statements by characters which can in fact be true if put into context. The writer and director appeared to be on the same page painting an impressionistic portrait rather than a boilerplate puzzle in the early stages of the series, but the direction and editing did not give clarity to the foundational story line.
Overall, the series was good but it left open many key points. What happens when you have two body swap love triangles? A Love Star?
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Babylilo
September 16, 2023 at 7:20 AM
While they resent the "super-rich" as a group, Americans tend to respect and admire individual billionaires, such as Elon Musk, Jeff Bezos, or Bill Gates. I only wish people would understand that Elon, Jeff, Bill, and their cohorts made their fortunes on the backs of us ordinary folks. They earned their billions by stifling competition, underpaying their workers, and using their wealth to secure favorable legislation and regulations. It's encouraging to see Google being sued by the government for operating an illegal monopoly, but I seriously doubt they will be forced to change their ways. They've been allowed to amass too much money and too much power to be held to account.
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OldLawyer
September 16, 2023 at 10:06 AM
I too rage watched the last episodes of THE REAL HAS COME. But I also watched all of the episodes that came before. A hate watch can be fun: I was able to release my inner snark on every episode of FOREST as one example.
A rage watch is something else: It is what you feel when a show that seems to start well not only goes sideways but does so by failing to deliver on every dramatic promise it made to the viewer. The audience has a sense of having been betrayed by the show which has in effect committed drama fraud.
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12 Babylilo
September 16, 2023 at 5:08 AM
COMPLETED:
Someday or One Day - The producers of A Time Called You are either brave or foolhardy in remaking this Taiwanese series, which sets a very high bar indeed.
The star of the show is undoubtedly the script. At times I wished I had a flowchart to keep track of all the time jumps, body switches, and interrelated causes and effects, but ultimately I was able to keep up (at least I think I was) without getting frustrated by the complex, intricate, twisty plot. The show packed a lot into its 13 episodes—besides romance, mystery, murder, and time-travel, it explored themes such as friendship, homophobia, mental health, family, and identity. Writing, direction, music, and visual design combined to bring together all these moving parts into a coherent, cohesive whole—exemplary world-building.
With the exception of the standard-issue psycho villain, I found all the characters relatable and compelling. Leads Ko Chia-Yen and Greg Hsu were standouts; kudos to Ko in particular for a finely-detailed performance in the challenging central role(s). Special mention to adorable scene-stealer Zheng You-Fei as the young Huang Yu-Xuan!
3-Iron - An odd, subversive little movie from 2004, directed by Kim Ki-Duk. Jae Hee plays a mysterious, silent drifter who breaks into houses and apartments while the owners are away and makes himself at home. He wanders around the house, fixing things, doing the laundry, watering the plants, and taking selfies. One day he lets himself into a fancy home, unaware that the equally silent woman of the house (Lee Seung-Yeon) has been there watching him the whole time. I won’t reveal anything more about what happens, but the story is—to say the least—unconventional. It’s a moody, mystical, romantic film with a quirky sense of humor. I enjoyed it, but I suspect it’s not everyone’s cup of tea.
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Babylilo
September 16, 2023 at 5:09 AM
DROPPED:
The Lucifer - Dropped in the middle of episode 5. This heavy-handed 2007 drama really shows its age. The three lead roles were overacted (Uhm Tae-Woong), underacted (Ju Ji-Hoon), and underwritten (Shin Min-A, not her fault). I heard some good buzz about the show from other Beanies, but I didn’t have the patience to stick with it to see if it got any better.
White Christmas - Dropped in the middle of episode 2. The familiar murder-mystery trope—a group of people are stranded in an isolated place with a killer in their midst—overlaid with the standard tortured-teen tropes (drug abuse, self-harm, dashed dreams, abusive/neglectful parents, etc.). I wasn’t interested enough in the characters to stick around to find out the who/when/where/how of the murder mystery.
BOOKS:
The Old Woman With the Knife, by Gu Byeong-Mo - Reading that this book was about an aging female assassin, I expected something along the lines of Kill Boksoon, but that’s not what I got. Hornclaw, the unassuming 65-year-old ajhumma of the title, is winding down her career as an elite assassin, as her mind and body are no longer up to the demands of the job. But retirement isn’t easy for an assassin who’s got somebody following her looking for revenge. This short, entertaining, often funny novel—narrated from Hornclaw’s wry perspective—touches on topics as varied as ageism, sexism, corporate bureaucracy, social and economic inequality, and the lingering effects of America’s military presence.
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PYC
September 16, 2023 at 7:11 AM
A pleasant surprise to see 3-Iron mentioned here! Kim KI-duck’s works are certainly not everyone’s cup of tea but 3-Iron is unforgettable even though I had only watched it once like 15 years ago. It’s so unique and also the movie that put Jae Hee on the map before he became famed through Delightful Girl Chun Huang and other subsequent dramas. Where is he now???
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Babylilo
September 16, 2023 at 7:37 AM
I didn't see anywhere that he had retired from acting. His last film appearance was in 2018, and his last tv drama was in 2021. According to Wikipedia, "[he] is currently running an online apparel shopping mall called Easy by Step..."
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ar_arguably romantic
September 16, 2023 at 8:02 AM
Jae Hee not making it out of the 2000s into male lead status in primetime dramas is always a bit of a shock to me. His last 2 dramas were daily dramas. I hope he makes enough to raise his family comfortably.
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Babylilo
September 16, 2023 at 9:24 AM
It could be worse. A lot of times when I check to see why an actor is no longer working, it turns out to be because of some scandal or other.
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Ahjummaaa
September 16, 2023 at 5:02 PM
I'm so afraid to have a favorite actor because the last two favorite actors ended up in major scandals that derailed their careers... the scandals happened after I started liking them :O Please, Lee Joon Hyuk, keep your pants on!!!
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13 indyfan
September 16, 2023 at 5:10 AM
After a packed drama schedule, I suddenly find myself both grateful for the break and twiddling my thumbs. Moving remains solid. I'm swaying on the fence with Destined With You. I'm waiting to try out Arthdal and, heaven help me, the new weekender Live Your Own Life.
So while I wait, I dove into Parallel World, the low-budget fantasy c-drama that recalls the dubious charms and bad CGI of the aughts (Firefly, Stargate, most SyFy shows of the era.) It has some fun world-building but it's the characters and relationships that are the stars. I have a mad girl crush on its wise-cracking, ass-kicking female lead, find the soft and serious male lead adorable, and their romance is just *chef's kiss* It takes me back to one of my favorite OTPs in Happiness. But that show didn't have Rooster—a literal chicken, not a nickname—as its breakout star. 😂
TL;DR A low-budget fantasy c-drama that's a trippy, swoony ride.
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Seon-ha
September 16, 2023 at 6:17 AM
FWIW, I 100% think I’d be more into Parallel World than Fake It. I may try the former first if I ever decide to switch over to c-dramas (I’ve tried two of them before, and was not hooked [understatement]).
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Dorotka
September 16, 2023 at 6:30 AM
Or you may cheat and watch last 10 min of ep 9 of Fake It so you know where you are heading to before you start from the beginning. 😁
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Seon-ha
September 16, 2023 at 6:45 AM
Thanks for the tip, @dorotka !!! I’m often up to just watching the best scenes of a show without needing those sad, slow “middle parts” with, like story or something 😀
Truly.
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Dorotka
September 16, 2023 at 7:11 AM
This one is not sad, nor is there unnecessary separation, but the pace is slow, there is some office drama (at works of both leads), a love story of FL sister etc. so it may be good to spoil yourself of what awaits you a bit further. 😉In the beginning, I was only interested in the main couple and their scenes, but later on some other dialogues/turns of events became interesting as well, some were even brutal (barns). So, I still think it is worth watching it all (sometimes with a bit of a help of ff button, like the sister's story).
indyfan
September 16, 2023 at 7:06 AM
Get out!!! Don't get me excited if you don't mean it. Will you join @hopefulromantic @lapislazulii We'd have so much fun on the fan wall. It's so eminently giff-able/meme-able. My lame screenshots are not doing it justice. And if it means anything, I strike out with most C-dramas. These have been exceptions.
Pro Tip: Make friends with your fast-forward feature for the early episodes, most of which are only half hour or so. But unlike other dramas, this show flows uphill. So far.
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Seon-ha
September 16, 2023 at 7:09 AM
I mean it. I live in a huge Firefly fan household. I've knitted Jayne's hat. Twice.
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indyfan
September 16, 2023 at 7:24 AM
Ooh. Then you might like. It's not Firefly by any means. But it has those vibes you know. And probably the same 2000 CGI team. 😂
HopefulRomantic 🦋 Tigermoth 🦞
September 16, 2023 at 8:08 AM
@indyfan... so you know how I replied to you yesterday that I was going to wait for Parallel World to finish airing before starting? Well, I watched the first three episodes last night 😂 I LOVE it so far - it's not dubbed, the scenery is beautiful, the main characters feel layered and interesting, and after you mentioned it, I see there are distinct Stargate SG-1 vibes (which I'm a fan of!!) Lol guess what I'm going to be watching this weekend?? Your screenshots and @mayhemf 's gifs drew me in!!!
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indyfan
September 16, 2023 at 8:18 AM
Oh yay! *Does a little dance* If it means anything, the early episodes were a bit iffy to me, but as we approached the double digits, I was hooked. And don't be scared of double digits. The episodes are only half hour. We have a 5-day break so you can catch up, easy-peasy.
Also, don't look at my lame pics. @mayhemf is the rockstar here on the fan wall. (Also, Blue, *psst* it's working. We reeled one in. 😂)
BTW I can't believe I got someone else to admit they watched SG 1. 🙌
Seon-ha
September 16, 2023 at 8:27 AM
I think it's gonna be telling that @hopefulromantic chose Parallel Worlds over Mad Dog...I'm now waiting to see how this goes. We might have a total change of plans soon :)
Just keep me in the loop folks, I'll follow wherever you lead!!! @indyfan you're the svengali here :)
HopefulRomantic 🦋 Tigermoth 🦞
September 16, 2023 at 8:38 AM
@indyfan - when I noticed the eps were only about 30 minutes long, that definitely made me less wary about the episode count! They really fly by. Aww I loved Stargate SG-1- I watched it with my dad and brother when I was younger 😊
HopefulRomantic 🦋 Tigermoth 🦞
September 16, 2023 at 8:40 AM
Lol @attiton I chose BOTH 😂 I'm still watching Mad Dog, but I'm currently binging Parallel World. @indyfan I'm only in ep 4, but their chemistry is already so sparky??? Eee!!! 😆
indyfan
September 17, 2023 at 6:40 AM
@hopefulromantic And that's why it's got a leg up on SG 1. PW does romance right. And, psst, it gets better!
HopefulRomantic 🦋 Tigermoth 🦞
September 17, 2023 at 6:54 AM
@indyfan - I'm through episode 17 of Parallel World! I LOVE IT. It's like the "stuck on an earth-like world and figuring out the customs and creatures" episodes of SG1 and Doctor Who, plus the desert realities, suspense, and slow-burn romance of the Amelia Peabody book series, plus action, plus a great cast, plus a rooster 🐓 IT'S SO ADDICTING!!! @lapislazulii are you going to try it out?
@attiton is your interest piqued yet? 😁 Never fear - I'm still making my way forward with Mad Dog, which I'm looking at as a showcase of Woo Do Hwan being wonderful.
Seon-ha
September 17, 2023 at 7:19 AM
Oh I am not really worried about YOU @hopefulromantic ! You should be worried about ME!!! 😚
Yes, I’ll watch PW. I need to cut down my live-watches (something that’s happening organically anyway, I think).
indyfan
September 17, 2023 at 7:33 AM
@hopefulromantic Whoa! You caught up fast. I'm so glad you're liking it. The burden of a failed recco is heavy indeed.
If you wish to repay me, I take payment in memes and gifs. Tho this time you have already paid me by getting @attiton on board. Apparently, they need a chorus. Now we just need Lapis...
LaurenSophie
September 16, 2023 at 11:49 AM
I have either deeply disliked or moderately disliked every c-drama I've tried. I often find the writing to be repetitious, simplistic, and borrrrrrring; I also typically find the pacing to be slow and repetitious; and the overall storyline starts to grate on my nerves by about episode four. But I really liked Fake It. It's the first cdrama I've seen that has a tight, coherent story that is both romantic and character-driven. Plus, the leads have fiery chemistry that carries through until the end. Another difference from other cdrama romances I've tried: there's a lot of great kissing and skinship and you can tell the characters have a healthy sex life once they get together.
The first couple of episodes are a bit painful because of the work stress both leads experience, but it's worth slogging through as the payoff definitely comes. And it's only 14 episodes, which means it wraps up at the precise right time.
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Seon-ha
September 16, 2023 at 8:44 PM
Thank you for this, @laurensophie!!! I take your advice very seriously, as with all Beanies, but yours in particular.
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indyfan
September 17, 2023 at 2:07 AM
Whereas I have been singing its praises to no avail for so long… Called me svengali did you? 😤
More seriously, tho deeply mired in Chinese society, Fake It is quite a departure from your typical c-drama. It’s probably why so many Beanies are liking it. Similarly, Parallel World also deviates from the c-drama template while immersed in Chinese mythology. But that I can only recommend to a niche audience.
Seon-ha
September 17, 2023 at 4:09 AM
Now, now, @indyfan, my most dearest Svengali of c-dramas…your opinion mattered first.
indyfan
September 17, 2023 at 6:42 AM
Smoooooth. You could be the Elvis of DramaBeans. And you'll get the reference after watching Fake It. 😜
14 KDramaTipsy
September 16, 2023 at 5:11 AM
COMPLETED:-
*My Dearest* - What I like the most about this show is that Gil-Chae and Jang-Hyun hardly ever do what you expect them to do. I never expected Gil-Chae to agree to Jang-Hyuk's plan as she knew too many people depended on her. However, I could believe that her love for him made her reckless enough to be swayed for some time, but not enough to abandon her people. Look forward to the second half of this unpredictable love story.
*The Uncanny Counter Season 2* - Coasted through on the goodwill of Season 1. Wasn't a bad watch but the drop in quality was very noticeable. 6.5 out of 10 Stars
*Love Class Season 2* - So much better than Season 1! Tells the stories of 3 couples in just 10 episodes of 25 minutes each, and does justice to all of them. 8.5 out of 10 Stars
*Jun & Jun* - Had a lot of flaws in terms of story and pacing but it was still the show among all my on-air shows that I looked forward to the most every week. That's coz it gave me what most romances this year couldn't - heart flutters! The chemistry between the MLs was smoldering. Hope to see these actors again soon in new shows, especially Ki HyunWoo who is magic on the screen! 8.5 out of 10 Stars
WATCHING:-
*My Lovely Liar* (14/16) - I don't get the obsession Korean romance writers have with murders and serial killers. Why do we need to have one of these in almost every romcom? Though I have to say that was one hell of a plot twist at the end of Ep 14. Didn't see that coming! And now so many things that happened earlier in the show suddenly make sense.
*My Lovely Boxer* (7/12) - Keeps getting better with every episode. Tae-Young and Kwon-Sook's slow burn romance is sweet, and all the women characters are very well written. Things went darker than I expected in Ep 7 but I don't mind it here. My only complaint is that Kwon-Sook's abusive father is being portrayed in a sympathetic light. Letting abusive characters get a redemption arc just coz they are family doesn't sit right with me.
*WhyRU Korea* (6/8) - Cute and funny. Much better written than the original Thai show. However, the shoestring budget shows in every frame.
*(Thailand) Naughty Babe* (2/8) - As ridiculous as its predecessor Cutie Pie, but that's its charm. The first 2 episodes were actually better than Cutie Pie in terms of pacing and humor. Hope the romance is better too.
*(Thailand) Dangerous Romance* (4/12) - Watching it for the leading man Perth, and while he doesn't disappoint, the show has been a little underwhelming till now.
*(Thailand) I Feel You Linger In The Air* (4/12) - This tender and sweet love story between two men from different eras has my heart. The makers have a vision and they have clearly spent big money to make it come alive. 1920s Thailand is gorgeously filmed, and the acting is one of the best I have seen in a Thai show. I hope it maintains this quality until the end.
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sorrynotsorry
September 16, 2023 at 7:29 AM
The romance/serial killer thing is lazy writing, but I think it is because a 16 hour drama about a romance is way too long. All the tired tropes from the old k-dramas like the love triangle and disapproving parents are still around, but were utilized way more in the past to push to 16 hours what should have been done in 8 to 10. At least with My Lovely Liar we knew going in instead of it surprising us midway.
It's been years since I checked out a Thai drama but I notice Viki started getting more.
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KDramaTipsy
September 16, 2023 at 8:03 AM
About time Kdramas cut down their stories to 10 or 12 episodes. That will take care of a lot of unnecessary fillers they are forced to add.
About Thai shows, IMO the best one for a newbie is F4 Thailand: Boys Over Flowers. I personally find it the best version of BOF.
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snancy
September 16, 2023 at 8:42 AM
@KDramaTipsy, I always prefer the 10-12 hour dramas! Even before the current murder trend (ugh), the dramas would start to drag with noble idiocy, etc. I wish the writers read Beanie comments!
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KDramaTipsy
September 16, 2023 at 9:16 AM
I think the Kdrama producers are realizing this. Lots of dramas lately having 12 episodes. May this become the norm soon!
nerdy
September 19, 2023 at 2:26 AM
If it is a 50 episodes drama, I drop it at episode 40-45; if it is 16 episodes one, I drop it at 12-13 and if it is a 12 episodes one, I drop it at 9-10 episodes.
Somehow, the writers are just terrible at planning the show and the weaker storylines come out regardless of how short the show's length is.
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🌸 Seeker 🌸
September 18, 2023 at 9:05 AM
So wonderful to have someone mention
*Jun & Jun*
It too looked forward to it the most each week.
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KDramaTipsy
September 19, 2023 at 2:12 AM
Glad to know! I don't get the people who kept beating it up. The show never claimed to be anything other than a funny and fluffy romance, and it delivered with the chemistry.
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15 Kafiyah Bello
September 16, 2023 at 5:12 AM
My Lovely Liar: It is trundling along. We finished the whodunnit. I think he died, but can't be too sure.I feel bad for his daughter. This drama should have been 12 episodes and gotten rid of the whodunnit. It would have made for a better drama and wouldn't have stretched poor HMH to his very limited limit.
Destined with You: This is a very shallow drama with not great writing. Once that is understood the drama becomes much more enjoyable. Lol. I am enjoying the characters for what they are and waiting for a better kiss akin to episode 4 or 5 and not that blah one from 8. It looks like we are going into the past, which is great, maybe we will get the return or origin of the hand.
The Killing Vote: So our very booked and busy favorite resident slimeball chaebol actor Kim Kwon is clearly part of this plot to murder bad folks. I assume his weirdo oedipal relationship with his mother also includes murder. She seems to know he likes killing and doesn't mind. I figure he realized that if he kills it should be to the worse people so that he always has the public goodwill on his side. Why? I guess we will find out.
Moving: ANXIETY, that was the name of the game for these two episodes. Man it was tense.
Arthdal: The Horse made his appearance, everything else was the same nonsense, but I am content, lol.
I tried both Han River Policing and 7 escape. The former was boring and the latter too much in the first 45 mins.
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Dorotka
September 16, 2023 at 5:54 AM
I want a weekender for Kim Kwon!
A good one, of course.
And where he is the male lead, obviously. 🙂
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Kafiyah Bello
September 16, 2023 at 8:13 AM
I want to see him as ML too. I remember him in his pre-villain days lol. He is a solid actor and so pretty, and he played such a pleasant character in Heard it through the Grapevine. Give us more of that Kim Kwon.
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Dorotka
September 16, 2023 at 9:59 AM
I wanted so much more from his story in Marry Me Now!!
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16 ♡Peach_Mochi♡
September 16, 2023 at 5:13 AM
Behind Your Touch: It's zany, it's fun, and while there have been clues, I'm still in the dark as to the identity of the serial killer. Might be more than one baddie in town for our intrepid detectives to suss out. I'm looking forward to whatever the much-hyped Episode 11 has in store for us. Perhaps a step forward in the romance department? Or at least, the end of the FL's crush on the SML
Destined With You: Losing steam with this one but not ready to cut bait. I wish the most recent episodes hadn't leaned into my least favorite elements: the love triangle/square and SFL storylines. Given that we're only at the halfway point, I'm beginning to get concerned about how the writer plans to fill the rest of the episodes. The sageuk/past lives part would be very welcomed.
Parallel World: Totally addictive. Is it a fantasy? Desert adventure? Sci-fi? Slow-burn romance? Found family story? Amazing comedic turn by a rooster with great survival instincts? Yes to all of it. And totally entertaining to boot. Despite the chaotic situations in the plot, the writing is completely on point with character development and creating relationships that you will root for.
Fake It Till You Make It: Finished this one and can't say enough good things about it. Finally -- a drama that delivered a satisfying ending! Made doubly rewarding because it wrapped up a masterpiece of acting, storytelling and directing. Featured my favorite OTP in recent memory. You know how sometimes you harbor doubts about how long a fictional drama couple would actually be able to stay together despite the happy ending in the finale? Well -- if ever one was going to make it work, this OTP would. Their relationship arc was brilliantly portrayed in dialogue and deeds.
Wrong Carriage, Right Groom: The main couples are so solid, I'm trusting that the cartoonish villains won't come out ahead in the end. There's also a fair dose of female empowerment going on, with both FLs proving to be smart, capable partners to their spouses. Even the headstrong princess (so often put in a villainous role) is asserting that she should be able to marry for love instead of duty. And thank goodness the object of her affection returns her sentiments.
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indyfan
September 16, 2023 at 5:31 AM
Not only did I love the OTP in Fake It, I'm loving the OTP in Parallel World. Tho I may love the female lead even more. I just declared my girl crush on the fan wall. LOL. Forgotz to tag.
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Dorotka
September 16, 2023 at 5:58 AM
You are both tempting me with Parallel Worlds!! I just don't have enough time! 😭😭😭
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Blue (@mayhemf)
September 16, 2023 at 7:04 AM
😭😭😭 real life sucks.
Hope you get some time later.
It’s such a Fun drama. Each episode is only 28 min minus the credits. So it zips by.
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Dorotka
September 16, 2023 at 7:16 AM
28 minutes? 🤔
*frantically rearranging the drama-watching schedule
indyfan
September 16, 2023 at 7:22 AM
This feels like early Fake It. Trying to sell it to one and all. 😀
Dorotka, you can use the FF here as well. Tho by *later* episodes you won't need to. It's a fast moving plot.
17 Kurama
September 16, 2023 at 5:15 AM
My Lovely Boxer Finally, the ML will fight and not just endure the whole mess.
My Lovely Liar I'm more interested to see her loosing her gift than the murder mystery. Her power was the interesting plot in this drama. But it was lost in the investigation, she was just lie detector. But the consequences, how it works, what place it takes in her life, etc. were barely adressed. KSH being a better actress, I'm happy the story is focusing on her even if she will have to suffer for it 😅
Destined With You The leads together are the best! Wether they're fighting, bickering, being cold to each other, flirting, etc. I'm never bored because their feelings feel real.
Behind Your Touch I'm kinda thing it's the kind of drama that missed the timing for romance now, so I'm not waiting for it anymore.
Moving At this point, I'm still waiting a flashback for the school guard and the new villain who can fly... I'm kinda disapointed they're fighting against the North Koreans and not their ex-boss...
Han River Police It's watchable nothing more.
CEO-dol Mart Like every Kdrama about idols, the half of the cast is very green... But there is Lee Sin-Young is good and cute!
@missvictrix I share your love for Rowoon. He's very good at a bus stop with drunk FL being very honest with their feelings :P
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Seon-ha
September 16, 2023 at 6:20 AM
The thing for me (and some others, right?) about Rowoon is that I also just can’t help but pay attention to his every move on screen. I don’t find him attractive just as a default, but when he’s in character, I can’t help myself but stare transfixed.
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Kurama
September 16, 2023 at 6:40 AM
I do find him attractive and often more when he's natural like in House on Wheels (but it didn't stop to buy a magazine with him on cover https://www.anothermag.com/design-living/15084/rowoon-ascent-from-korean-idol-to-global-icon-interview-sf9 the interview is interesting too of course)
But I really like to see him in a character too.
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Seon-ha
September 16, 2023 at 6:48 AM
See, no…even with those model shots…he’s all yours. I mean very much that to each their own, but you can rest assured that I’ll stay in my corner :)
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🌸 Seeker 🌸
September 19, 2023 at 2:51 AM
The French always say it better.
Rowoon has "Je ne sais quoi"!!
🌸 Seeker 🌸
September 19, 2023 at 12:32 AM
I am told this is called X-factor!
As far as I'm concerned Rowoon has the whole A to Z factors twice over.