A Time Called You: Episodes 1-12 (Drama Hangout)
by DB Staff
Welcome to the Drama Hangout for Netflix’s much-anticipated A Time Called You, a remake of the Taiwanese drama Someday or One Day, where Jeon Yeo-bin gets a magical second chance with her beloved Ahn Hyo-seop.
This is your place to binge and chat about the drama. Stay tuned — we’ll have a series review coming soon. Update: Read the Series Review here!
Beware of spoilers! This thread is for discussing the entire series.
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1 drawde2000
September 8, 2023 at 3:10 PM
Have not seen this remake. But from what I see on my X feed, this is a story between Ahn yo Seop and Rowoon. And that it is "unexpected".
Hehehe!
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lapislazulii
September 8, 2023 at 5:33 PM
I saw those edits too, and I was so confused for a hot minute! Before I read the tags, I thought I'd missed something in Destined With You 😂
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indyfan
September 8, 2023 at 6:58 PM
They were adorable! Heart-fluttering so. I wish they’d shown more but I guess kdramas don’t go there?
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Charlotte
September 18, 2023 at 11:37 PM
Check out the Viki streaming site...korean dramas do 'go there'...a LOT of BL dramas.
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2 tabong is ironing the crosswalk
September 8, 2023 at 4:33 PM
Episode 5' reveal was a big surprise and it made things more confusing.
I gave up trying to figure out what's going on and I'm just enjoying the cute high school friendship between the three kids. I hope things get a little more clear soon.
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indyfan
September 8, 2023 at 6:59 PM
It’s quite confusing. The original was also. But it will all be explained. Hang in there.
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tabong is ironing the crosswalk
September 8, 2023 at 8:00 PM
I just finished episode 7 so I'm half confused now. Hahaha.
I think with this episode they answered all my questions except for one: why did he hide for a whole year?
I'm really curious about that.
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indyfan
September 8, 2023 at 10:08 PM
Good question. I don’t think it was answered. Someone will correct me if I’m wrong but till then a-theorizing I go.
It might have been hard for Jun-hee to go off on a time-traveling, mystery-solving adventure while so deeply wrapped in grief? And further accept Si-heon for Yeon-jun? Perhaps Si-heon needed time to process sending himself to his death as well?
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tabong is ironing the crosswalk
September 8, 2023 at 10:54 PM
Chibi solved the case.
Grief is the condition to time travel, so he had to wait a little.
chibi8535
September 8, 2023 at 10:55 PM
Indy... to answer your other comment...
He chooses to wait till 2023, because he knows the Junhee that 'came from the future' in 1998, kept mumbling about 'coming from the year 2023'. He has this whole timeline sketched in his apartment. He knows he cannot send that tape before 2023. And he also knows he cannot reveal himself, till she travels to the past and sets everything in motion. Yes, it's a heart-wrenching realization that she waited for him for a year, except he waited for her, for TWENTY ONE years! T_T
chibi8535
September 8, 2023 at 10:32 PM
Siheon did not hide for a whole year. He technically hid from the 2002 soccer world cup year, where he met with a bus accident after Ingyu refused to meet him in jail, all the way to 2023.
Because, every time 'he' dies on that air-craft crash in 2022 (in Yeonjun's body), he (his consciousness) wakes up all the way in 2002, after 2 weeks of being in coma, from that bus accident. It's not like he magically wakes up in the year 2022, in his own body, and can 'pick up where he left off.'
Yes, he could have cut the wait shorter by a year. Technically speaking again, Junhee no longer has 'Yeonjun's' company post-flight crash, so Siheon can walk into her life and just be his replacement, right?
But then, she would not miss and grieve for her dead-boyfriend, which would mean she would not time-travel to the past (i think it isn't explained as nicely here... but original script had a pre-condition that she needed to want to 'see him' for that time travel to happen for the very first time, alongside that tape). If the time-travel does not happen, Siheon would not fall in love with her in 1998, and basically none of the love-loop stuff would have happened.
To cut it short, everything Siheon does AFTER waking up from that coma, after he experiences 2006-2022 in Yeonjun's body with Junhee..... every decision is because he needs to do it to maintain the continuity to events as it happened and as it's supposed to happen. Including taking that doomed flight, knowing 'he' would crash & die.💔😭
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indyfan
September 8, 2023 at 10:51 PM
Oh I see. I thought Tabong’s question was why Si-heon waited a year after the crash to reveal himself.
You’re right. He’s waited in the wings since he woke up from the coma to set up the time travel. And it’s a punch to the guts to think that.
tabong is ironing the crosswalk
September 8, 2023 at 10:52 PM
Yes, you're totally right.
If they meet right away, technically she wouldn't lose him. So she wouldn't be desperate to see him again and that would stop her from time traveling.
Also, it wouldn't make sense to her that her boyfriend came back with a new name, long hair, a handle cane and a lot of memories she never lived. The whole thing would've been hard to explain... and he wouldn't exist.
Hehe, I got it.
Thank you!! ^^
PS. I just watched the part were he says he's gonna take the flight and I didn't know how to react.
That was something. I respect that man.
dramadillo
September 9, 2023 at 12:46 AM
Thank you! You deserve a 🫘Beansprout Award🌱 for services to the db community in explaining things very well!!🙏 (I’ve watched the original and even so, my brain splutters and stalls trying to understand it all!)
emsel
September 10, 2023 at 9:37 AM
Thank you for the explanation as I was also confused, but now, why did time travel work for Chan Yeong? He wasn't in any pain at the time of time travel from Jun Hee's couch.
3 indyfan
September 8, 2023 at 7:23 PM
I am so hungover from my binge yesterday. Full of regrets. But it so much fun “live” watching with my friend (in another city). Texting like mad.
Our reactions were divided but positive. My friend who hasn’t watched the original, loved this. It didn’t match the OG for me. How could it? But it was a decent makeover with its strength and weaknesses. So, if you can set aside the OG and moderate your expectations, you might enjoy it. I did.
One thought re ending. She loved the pretty much happy ending. I loved the original, which left me in a heartbroken bliss. (I pretend the YT clip never happened :) In fact, I shed a few tears in the first episode here just from the lingering feels of two years ago. LOL.
Looking forward to discussing more after other Beanies watch it.
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4 pliplipli
September 8, 2023 at 7:58 PM
not feeling the leads chemistry but still curious about this story.I didn't watch the original so I really have no idea where this story is going, but the drama didn't make me want to keep watching past ep 3. I imagine we wont get recaps so I will keep an eye here to see if I can discover how things will end eventually lol
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5 FiyaShady
September 8, 2023 at 8:11 PM
Things getting more tangled after 7 episode 😵💫. Trying hard to finish it in one go but so many distraction 😌. Will keep my review once I done ✌️
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6 tabong is ironing the crosswalk
September 8, 2023 at 11:23 PM
EP 9.
The leads of DwY think they have it difficult? I want them to watch ATCY and count how many people need to die to create the leads' destiny... A LOT.
To not even mention that the leads had to fall for each other in two different time lines and grief their deaths.
And since this is a time travel paradox, it has no beginning or ending, the story is gonna repeat itself like a time loop... Now that's heavy, people.
I think Hong Joo and Shin Yu need to be grateful and accept their destiny. lol
Okay, jokes aside, I really respect the way Jun Hee and Si Heon fight for their love. They're incredible.
I only have three episodes left, and I think it's gonna be about the killer? I wanted more cute high school moments, tho. Something to light up the mood for a bit.
No idea why they released this show in one day. Is too sad to binge watch. :(
And it would've been more fun to talk about every detail week after week like we normally do.
Anyway, I have a feeling the finale is gonna break my heart, and I don't want that. Bring back the three happy kids, bring back In Gyu, please. 🥺😞
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Reply1988 -❣️Mother Bean❣️
September 9, 2023 at 11:06 AM
I am one of those pleased they did the series drop. I think it would have been hard to avoid spoilers if this was spread over a few weeks as people would have referred to the original and dropped in spoilers from later episodes so this way avoiding the fan wall and the designated hangout meant we could choose to watch it as fast or slowly as we wanted to and decide when to engage in discussion about it.
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tabong is ironing the crosswalk
September 9, 2023 at 2:07 PM
I feel more frustrated like this because I can't read the comments of people that already finished it (to avoid spoilers) and I don't know how to answer to people that are behind me because my memory is trash and I don't remember what happened in each episode. So if I say something maybe I'll give them spoilers.
Even the answer Chibi gave me could've been a spoiler depending on when I read it. I did the question when I was on episode 5 I think, but I read her comment after I finished episode 9 (thankfully), otherwise it would've been a major spoiler. Chibi had no idea to know that tho.
So I find easier to avoid spoilers in the fan wall. I just ignore the post related to that show. That's what I've been doing with My Dearest.
And beanies that wanted to talk about the OG could put a warning or something.
But I'm guessing the original was really famous and most beanies have watch it, so maybe you're right, the fan wall would've been chaotic.
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7 djf
September 8, 2023 at 11:41 PM
I enjoyed it.
I give it 9/10 stars.
I didn't see Someday or One Day so I didn't have any expectations. Based on the comments I have read this may set expectations higher for those that have which means this series will more than likely have some very tough critics.
Loved the acting by the cast. Good job by the FL.
The story kept me engaged and I binge watched all 12 episodes in one day.
There is a cameo by one of the actors from Destined for You. This person will have two opportunities to win the couple of the year award this year. :-)
Yes there are flaws but don't overthink it.
Sit back and enjoy.
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8 Nefret
September 9, 2023 at 2:39 AM
I have just finished episode 4 and am already looking forward to the next episodes. I don't know the original, so I have no comparisons.
Originally I had slight reservations because I had only seen Ahn Hyo-seop in BUSINESS PROPOSAL and he didn't really convince me there (I guess I'm one of the few who finished watching BUSINESS PROPOSAL solely because of the second couple). In any case, I like Ahn Hyo-seop very much here.
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9 Kurama
September 9, 2023 at 3:24 AM
It's confusing me when there is Hang-out place and there will be a review too.
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MikeyD signed up
September 14, 2023 at 10:51 AM
I think everyone expected the drama to drop episodes weekly, not all at once, and they set things up for people to discuss the episodes as they came out. But Netflix spoiled their plans.
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Kurama
September 14, 2023 at 11:25 AM
Netflix always drops its series in one time.
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10 misshoggy
September 9, 2023 at 4:47 AM
Not sharing anything deep here- I’ve watched both version and loved them both!
Just lost sleep from binge watching it last night, so I haven’t had time to put a coherent train of thoughts yet. Will be back later!
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misshoggy
September 9, 2023 at 4:52 AM
Actually, one thing I liked in the Korean version is the choice of song for the time travel… Seo Ji-won’s With My Tears always gets me.
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Reply1988 -❣️Mother Bean❣️
September 9, 2023 at 11:09 AM
I liked the way they played the song in this version as the song from the original was a key factor in why I stopped watching because the song got on my nerves and I found the thriller element too scary.
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FiyaShady
September 9, 2023 at 9:04 PM
And I am so glad that I know most of the song they played. Seo Ji Won, Kim Min Seok (Melomance), Sondia... those are great OST.
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immawish
September 10, 2023 at 4:49 AM
YESSSS! Their choice of the song... it's crazy
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Kurama
September 10, 2023 at 11:54 AM
It's interesting they chose a song from a singer who died at the age of 19 with the parallel of Min-Ju's arc.
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Reply1988 -❣️Mother Bean❣️
September 10, 2023 at 12:11 PM
Reading this comment, I just looked up his story. How sad to die by suicide at 19, it makes the words to the song have a deeper meaning.
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Goyangi and the Camel Crickets
November 24, 2023 at 6:59 PM
Wow I didn't know that. The song hits harder knowing this.
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11 welh
September 9, 2023 at 5:02 AM
A TIME CALLED YOU (Ep. 1-3) I am not familiar with the original material, so I will take this remake for its own production and story. The pre-release interviews, the director said he would maintain some of the iconic scenes in the original but have his own take on the overall story. Episode 1 was a slow but well done weaving of the present Jun-Hee issues with acceptance of her BF’s death anniversary and the unsettling past from high school (it took me a double take to realize that the 1998 high schoolers had different names) And there lies the doppleganger mystery. Episode 2 does not emphasize the first four stages of grief (denial, anger, bargaining, depression) but it is clear Jun-Hee is still in denial with fits of anger, bargaining and depressing fantasy conversations with her dead BF. Meanwhile, Min-ju family life is awful but when on her first real birthday celebration she confesses to Si-Heon, she is devastated by his rejection (leading to her tragic accident) Jun-Hee’s office worker calculates the years to confirm that was not Yeon-Jun in the old photograph. But Jun-Hee seems to be closer to encroaching on the parallel time line of Min-ju as birthday wishes are the pivot point of intersecting emotions through that same cassette tape. Jun-hee awakes from Min-ju’s coma as herself, taking Si-Heon for Yeon-Jun. Episode 3 begins with Min-ju in a purgatory realm while Jun-Hee takes over her 1998 life, sharing bits and pieces of both memories. (It seems that Si-Heon’s guilt must have led him to Min-ju’s doppleganger as the catalyst for this time line body swap). But Episode 3 adds an accident mystery to the mix.
Clues: broken plastic of cassette recorder from 1998 accident (tape was in possession of Si-Heon.) That presumes Si-Heon was at the accident scene or cause of it? Or In-gyo who retrieved his hearing aid from Min-ju’s backpack and seems less interested in finding the culprit?
The 27 Record photo came AFTER Jun-Hee entered Min-ju’s body when she returned to school and work. In her journal, her Yeon-jun dream is fading (while Minju is still trapped in purgatory). It begs the question what happened to real Jun-Hee? Was she the one assaulted and left in the field? A new lead leads to Min-ju memory of being saved from car accident by a young man in a school uniform? Jun-Hee wakes up during assault memory because she fell asleep on the bus. She thinks it is a dream but Si-Heon appears to be stalking her. She gets home to see that all her messages to Yeon-jun have been read. She then dials his old number . . .
Watching the series because the writer wrote BABYSITTER, a great series with tight, intense script which helped the cast’s stellar acting. I get the same feel with the series so far. The script has weaved many elements both dreamlike and real so really cannot tell which is right and which is wrong. There are conflicting statements by characters which can in fact be true if put into context. The writer and director appear to be...
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welh
September 9, 2023 at 5:03 AM
...on the same page painting an impressionistic portrait rather than a boilerplate puzzle.
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12 Bunny Sonaki
September 9, 2023 at 10:07 AM
Watched episode 1 and jave been pretty confused until I figured we have two timelines not one and the characters are different in both timelines
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13 Reply1988 -❣️Mother Bean❣️
September 9, 2023 at 11:27 AM
I can see why this drama comes highly recommended and expect for most beanies the original would be the best option. I am glad I was able to watch this version through as the original didn't work for me and I only watched the equivalent of the first 4 episodes of this one. I was able to get into the mystery element and whilst I worked out some elements before the reveal there were a few I could not make sense of until they were revealed. I was completely surprised by a couple of the twists towards the end.
I liked the fresh start they came up with for the couple to meet and be themselves.
I was a surprised that we only heard from and saw the Minju in the head character when there were several times we saw the voice of the real person could be heard by the time traveller. I wondered how Yeonjun would have felt as his body was used for a long time in a way that did not fit for who he was.
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missjb
September 9, 2023 at 7:41 PM
I wondered how Yeonjun would have felt as his body was used for a long time in a way that did not fit for who he was.
Spoiler : The original YeonJun Died. If The soul of Nam Shi Heon Doesn't host Yeon Jun's Body, The body will be buried because the original YeonJun is technically died. That's the reason NAm Shi Heon never experience what Jun Hee experience
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Reply1988 -❣️Mother Bean❣️
September 9, 2023 at 10:44 PM
I think that is an anomaly that needed further explanation as no one else had that experience when they time travelled. I feel they wanted to show that it was always Siheon she loved not Yeonjun but I needed something other than the airport scene to understand that things were different with that one character and why. We got a clear explanation with the others.
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chibi8535
September 10, 2023 at 10:46 PM
I get your confusion regarding the Siheon-to-Yeonjun 'soul transplant'. It isn't an anomaly, however.
The remakers went for a scenario where it's implied that Yeonjun ('s soul) dies along with Taeha in the car-crash, and his body is only alive, because Siheon's soul enters. If it seems like the reason is 'just for the heck of it', or to convey the idea of a 'purer love'... then it is.
Because, in the original, the switcheroo happens when Yeonjun is bullied terribly for being gay, even by the person he's secretly crushing on (the dude played by Rowoon is actually awful and physically abusive in the original). So he becomes suicidal, and takes his own life by jumping into the ocean (with a touching prefacing line that goes something like 'someday, i wish we would not be treated different, just because we ARE different')
As he plunges to the bottom of the ocean and 'dies', Siheon's soul take up from there. There is no 'original soul of the host' (aka Yeonjun) because, in the original too, he's dead. And he's dead not because of any accident, but by his own choice. </3
I remember the 'fandom' being rabid, because any amount of resetting the TL doesn't bring him back, and out of all the characters, he seemed to have got the short end of the stick. People were livid that such sensible & sensitive writers were still 'burying the gays' in 2019. :(
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Reply1988 -❣️Mother Bean❣️
September 10, 2023 at 11:01 PM
Thank you for the detailed explanation. I definitely prefer this drama’s version of that storyline but I don't like the idea of a body being a host for any random soul to jump into if the original host dies. If that is the case then lots of evil people who get into the time travel business would be able to kill people that look like them and before the body is found jump in commit crimes then leave them to deal with the consequences. There is no way that this is the only way people in this story’s universe would be able to time travel so there would be other groups of people dealing with these kinds of negatives. Like in My Holo love there are always those who use any means necessary to use these situations for evil purposes.
14 pliplipli
September 9, 2023 at 3:52 PM
tried a couple more episodes, but it's really not working for me. I LOVE time travel stories so this is not the issue here, but the leads just didn't click for me, even though I have liked these actors in other stuff before. I'm curious to know the story unfolding, but I don't care enough about these characters to watch hours of it. I will wait for the series review and the comments.
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immawish
September 10, 2023 at 4:51 AM
I hate that I kinda agree with this.. I've been watching Yeobeen in pretty much all of her things and she's pretty amazing w chemistry w anyone and I think this is the one I feel the least chemistry from.....
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pliplipli
September 10, 2023 at 9:20 AM
she got chemistry with two diff actors for be melodramatic, with nana for glitch lol I was 100% sure I would be head over heels for these two here but I felt nothing. I didn't watch enough episodes to get to the college years part, maybe things would have changed there. but even the small happy scenes we got from junhee and yeojun when she's grieving.... idk if it was the acting, the script itself but they all felt so cold, almost like a couple CF, forced lines and smile, too on the nose, trying too hard to show how happy and made for each other this couple is? it was weird and it totally disconnected me from the drama.
on top of that, I personally dont like high school stories in general, first love stories so I couldnt care less about 1998 love line. also.. teenager AHS looked so much like exo chanyeol that once my mind made the connection, i could only see him acting in the drama LMAO
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immawish
September 10, 2023 at 11:39 AM
I agree so much with Glitch and Be Melodramatic, even in Night in Paradise which is the furthest from romance, her chemistry w the lead was intense..... Oh you're so true that it felt so much like a couple CF, might be the short scenes yet YB did have very short and minimal scenes w Seokku so....
I think the college scenes at the latter part of the drama wasn't as dry as their flashback scenes but still not as strong as what I expected it to be... which is kinda a shame bcs I think drama like this relies very heavily on chemistry. I mean overall it's a good one but one can imagine what if it actually has explosive chemistry....
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15 tabong is ironing the crosswalk
September 9, 2023 at 4:40 PM
EP 11
Nooo. 😭 Why are they doing this?
They made Mi Jung so sad and illogical. I can't enjoy the cute high school moments anymore.
Like Oh My Ghostess, I would've like if Mi Jung and Jun Hee build a relationship were they could support each other.
What MJ is doing doesn't make sense from any angle.
If she really wants to live and enjoy her TIME, doesn't she need to be ALIVE for that?
She can fake her identity and live like Jun Hee only if she's alive. She can enjoy her romance with Si Han only if he's alive. She can be friends with In Gyu, only if he's free and alive. And Jun Hee is going to leave her alone only after she goes back to 2023.
So catching the killer should be her priority.
It's not like she's scared of messing with the time line and ruin the paradox or something. Nah. She's just being reckless and selfish.
She really was a sweet girl the first few episodes, so it's really sad to see her take such a dark turn. I don't think that was necessary. But I guess it's a drama thing to take lonely and quiet characters and make them look crazy.
Anyway, 1998 used to be my happy place but not anymore. 2023 is so depressing, especially in episode 10. That was a lot. A LOT. Scarier than Criminal Minds or Hannibal. I even thought "maybe they should give up on their romance, that would save at least 4 lives. Tbh, I don't know if their love it's worth it".
So when HJ came back to 1998 I felt better. I thought I was gonna get some smiles. I was ready to watch the trio (+ uncle and police) catch the culprit and enjoy a little moments of young sweetness. But nah, we couldn't have that. I feel like this show takes the tag "melodrama" way too seriously, like a drama or movie from early 00's. Sometimes it feels extreme or unnecessary. But maybe that's just me.
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I hope SH notice that MJ is faking it pali pali. He knows something's off.
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16 tabong is ironing the crosswalk
September 9, 2023 at 7:31 PM
EP 12
I don't think I'm feeling what I'm supposed to be feeling. Especially after a happy ending... I guess this isn't my type of story.
I really liked the first half tho. And Anh Hyo Seob. He was great.
I'll wait for the spin off BL between him and Ro Woon, I think I would like their story better. 😆
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FiyaShady
September 9, 2023 at 9:09 PM
The BL is out of nowhere for some reason 🤦🏻♀️...and they did not explained anything (the significant of it) nor the impact of Rowoon here (I get that he is pure cameo for AHS 🤷🏻♀️- to promote his drama, perhaps???)
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tabong is ironing the crosswalk
September 9, 2023 at 9:56 PM
That was Yeon Jun. They were explaining how he died and when did Si Heon get into his body.
When SH woke up in YJ's body the mother said he got in an accident while traveling with his friend or something like that. And she said the friend didn't make it (why do they always kill the gays?).
So it was a flashback.
I think it was to explain why YJ never appears?
Min Ju and Jun Hee liked Si Heon, that was helpful for the plot. But the real YJ liked a man, so they needed to get him out of the way to give Si Heon his body?
But thanks to that ending I'm helpful the guys survived and continued their love story.
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indyfan
September 9, 2023 at 9:25 PM
Oh, I loved that little interlude. It was similar, in that it's a gay subplot, but very different in the specifics to the original. And the different tones fit perfectly to each version.
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tabong is ironing the crosswalk
September 9, 2023 at 9:59 PM
And I really want a continuation of that story.
College boys falling in love? That's cute as heck.
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17 FiyaShady
September 9, 2023 at 10:46 PM
Overall and final verdict:
I am so glad I did not watch the Taiwanese version first place. It kept me from getting any spoiler as well as how it should be.
My review: it was not as sad as people said 😅. But all the time travel plot lines, the way they introduced and killed each characters makes sense till the end.
YeoBin really topnotch in switching character especially last 2 episode. Glad Ahn HyeSeop and Kang Hoon pick this project too.
My fav character would be ahjusshi Park Hyuk-Kwon 🥰 (loved every single time of him in many drama).
The romance is considered subtle for me, well both OTP didn't feel much (to the least I would say). The so-called creepy villian Jin Woong, he is damn fine as psycho one! From MoA, Chocolate and Nobody Know to this, I wish all success to him.
Plus points: it drops the whole series in one go ❤️. This earn me another bean 🥳.
Downside: to the point that someone suffered depression, please avoid watching it at all cost.
Till.next.drama.binge 😁
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18 FormAnOrderlyQueue
September 10, 2023 at 12:34 AM
Finsihed ep12.
Not seen the original, so can't compare, but I felt like this was a masterclass in narrative control. We had a large number of overlapping timelines by the end but I knew where we were at every point. Had to concentrate, mind, but the way the writer doled out the hints, the points of overlap, the waking up as a new character, kept me enthralled. It felt like time travel done by someone who really "got" their time travel and I loved it.
JYB was superb. Just like Si-heon, I could tell immediately from her eyes which character she was inhabiting - just brilliant. KH was superb - made the second lead seem as vital as the first, and I felt his pain every time. AHS was good - moments where I felt his acting was not quite in line with what was going on and he wasn't quite matching JYB, but it wasn't painful for me.
Really enjoyed it. How different is the original please someone?
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chibi8535
September 10, 2023 at 11:27 PM
Oh, wow! Well-deserved praises indeed. I agree with every single of your opinion. Now that you know the 'bones' of the plot, and that you liked the time-travel twists and reveals, and appreciated the narrative control, you should definitely give the original a try!!!
For starters, the original has a 3 hour longer runtime than the remake, so the twists are twist-ier. In the remake, some dialogues and pretty much all monologues have been done away with. But sadly, they were some of the collective fandom's favorite part of the story, as they seem to have been written and worded by someone who's clearly experienced loss in their lives. The build-up of the FL's mental space is also done with far more detail and patience. Your heart breaks as she treads on the borderline of completely losing it. Her guilt, grief, and melancholy are larger than life yet feel very grounded and real. One word to sum it up would be.. nuance. And nuance takes time.
The way the original is shot, is trippier. The OST is a very different experience from the remake, as Korean & Taiwanese music scenes are very different (the former being ballad & pop based, whereas the latter is more rock & blues). If the story seems appealing enough for a second watch, then the TW version would be a great case study in how editing, sound mixing and color-grading can lead to a very different show, vibe-wise.
Ps. The main lead characters are also very different. I'm not elaborating further, because I should leave some mystery, right? :P
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FormAnOrderlyQueue
September 11, 2023 at 1:13 AM
Thanks so much for your reply @chibi8535 - Beanies are the greatest at giving their precious time! Ok, I should definitely try the original as I love me a "compare and contrast"! Just need a platform to make it available legally in my region :( Pleeeeeease, drama gods...
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19 OAsia
September 10, 2023 at 3:52 AM
Technically, the drama is good, the cinematography is beautiful, the music is ok, although not to my taste. The actors are ok, they are very good in some scenes. What I didn't like was what this drama was. I would prefer if Min Ju simply had a split personality or actually invented a second personality to cope with the pressures of reality. I didn't like the use of time travel and the fact that the love of the main characters was so important that the lives of other characters were marginalized. In my opinion, Min Ju and In Gyu were more interesting. It's their story without any fantasy elements that I would like to watch. Let it be a story about struggling with your own psyche, a story about the struggle for happiness of ordinary people with problems, flaws, average, unpopular, etc. The main characters were typical people with success written on them from the moment they were born, and fate gave them more chances than others.
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FiyaShady
September 10, 2023 at 9:09 AM
The way you describing on MJ and IG storyline is exactly reminded me of Just Between Lovers. If you haven't watch that, then give it a go 😊
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20 immawish
September 10, 2023 at 4:46 AM
Ooof... I just finished this over the weekend and I'm having a mixed feelings. Story wise I really think it's a bit of a fresh air in the mids of getting annoyingly streamlined kdrama stories. I love the complicated story and the way it challenged me. Although to be completely honest I feel like it could've been told in a better pace idk how but I just feel like it.
The one thing I know is that this kind of drama relies REALLY heavily with leads chemistry. It's not like the chemistry isn't there but it's not as strong as what I expected and to tell the truth it's the very first time I'm watching Jeon Yeobeen have been in a drama with this level of chemistry.... (from be melodramatic, Vincenzo, glitch, night in paradise, to be honest even in after my death, Jeon Yeobeen and her co-stars chemistry has always been overflowing). Or I don't know maybe I have a problem w Ahn Hyoseop I didn't understand.
Yet... Jeon Yeobeen.......... I feel like for her last three dramas post Be Melodramatic, she's not the kind of actress that acts perfectly every bit of the time. Every time I started thinking like this about her, she goes off with a scene or few that gave me goosebumps. I feel like she's always has that few moment in a drama where I felt like she's such an amazing actress. In A Time Called You in particular, those moments are when she finally broke down wanting to move on in front of imaginary Ahn Hyoseop, when Mijoo broke down bcs her about-to-divorce parents about to abandon her, when she lost Siheon for the nth time (why does her character always lose someone to death laksdjfhjkah), and finally... when Mijoo acts like she's Juhee........ The way you can FEEL that it's not wholly Juhee from the start even before the revelation.....
So... all in all, drama wise I don't think it's as satisfying as I hoped it would be (I guess I gotta go to the og huh) but in terms of Jeon Yeobeen, I think she proved yet again what's an amazing actress she really is.
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missjb
September 10, 2023 at 6:37 AM
Haha.. i feel otherwise though. This is the strongest chemistry I felt Jeon Yeo Been with the male lead. While she has chemistry with his previous male lead, his costar usually acting too cold and cool i just don't find the romantic lingering feeling. I love Soong Joong ki but sorry, his vincenzo is juat too cold, meanwhile here like Nam shi heon love her char so much. Maybe i have abit problem with their character, i feel like their char feeling is not as the same footing with her. I also find hyoseop has better chemistry with yeo been than his previous co star like yoojung and se jeong, despite they are younger than him.
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immawish
September 10, 2023 at 11:42 AM
Oooh interesting!
I'm not quite sure why but on the contrary, I just couldn't feel as strong as what they wanted us to feel in this one... Like I couldn't grasp the desperation of them wanting to be together so much.......... But yeah I think for me it's least about the characters individually and more about how both of them together feels
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missjb
September 10, 2023 at 3:29 PM
Yeah each to each own though. I love their chemistry so much here. They also look good together surprisingly since their age difference is too large i was afraid the romance would look awkward. Mature look in hyoseop help alot i guess.
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immawish
September 10, 2023 at 12:04 PM
PS. SPOILER ALERT
I love the details of how from the very first time we were introduced that when Junhee went back to Minju's body she got an overlap of few minutes so for that few minutes she could've seen the future. And it was proven to be such a major point that changes the story. Such a chef kiss moment.
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21 Nefret
September 10, 2023 at 8:57 AM
I have now seen all twelve episodes and can say that I liked ATCY very much. I wasn't bored for a minute, was interested in trying to follow the different levels of time travel logically, which I managed quite well, and was rooting for the characters.
These characters grew closer to my heart with each episode and in the end I suffered more and more when they were separated again and again.
I was impressed with how Jeon Yeo-been portrayed Han Jun-hee and Kwon Min-ju, so I always knew immediately who I was watching.
Ahn Hyo-seop also won me over for the first time.
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22 emsel
September 10, 2023 at 9:33 AM
I finished this drama today and I have lots of questions:
Si Heon(2006) = One with Koo Yeon Jun's identity.
Si Heon(2002) = Original Si Heon who woke up back in 2002 from coma after the bus accident.
Jun Hee = 2023 Jun Hee and when she is in physical and mental control of Min Ju's body and mind.
Min Ju = 1998 Min Ju
1. In the scene where Si Heon, Jun Hee and the uncle were discussing in the cafe about finding critical information to figure Min Ju's murderer, why did Si Heon never share with Jun Hee that he felt Min Ju was acting weird before her death? Min Ju was the one who set the plan to pull Jun Hee to 1998 by writing "The joy was Koo Yeon Jun", so that means they were still in the time loop and the sequence following that event until her murder must also be same. So, why did Si Heon never mention that Min Ju told Jun Hee was a fragment of imagination?
2. What is that one unexpected event mentioned by Si Heon (2002) as changing that particular timeline from other loops?
3. Why did Si Heon(2002) who was waiting to meet Jun Hee in 2023, never left any clues for his other versions or Jun Hee. He had so many years at his hand to test different timelines, but instead cribbed about them being caught in an endless loop of destined pain. Wasn't he supposed to be a smart guy as shown during most of the drama?
4. Si Heon(2002) was a great friend to In Gyu and even helped his grandma when In Gyu was in prison. For a person who cared so much about his friends, why did he never try to get to know Chan Yeong when he spent majority of his college life and career partnership with him? Both Jun Hee and Si Heon were close with Chan Yeong, yet they knew nothing about his background or family.
5. Why did that specific cassette turn out to be a device for time travel? I know it was the song that set up the intro between the three kids, but Jun Hee was never shown listening to it. Neither did Chan Yeong and Si Heon wasn't even obsessed with the song. So how did it become significant for time travelling?
6. In Jun Hee's first time travel, Min Ju's soul was caged and she couldn't escape until Jun Hee went back to 2023. In second time travel of Jun Hee, Min Ju was never seen, but how come in the third time, Min has total control of her own body + mind and Jun Hee's soul got trapped?
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immawish
September 10, 2023 at 11:51 AM
2. I think it's Ingyu's death, he wanted to make sure Ingyu didn't k-ll himself but he failed to do so
3. Because to make sure the timeline happened as it's supposed to (Junhee going back in time, Siheon meets Junhee, Siheon woke up as Koo Yeonjun to meet Junhee) he cannot change anything and wait for his death as Koo Yeonjun and sent Junhee the cassette player
5. I think because that was the present that Ingyu and Siheon gave to Minju in the night of her accident and then it's the start of Siheon's body swap to the future
1 and 6 really got me curious as well, nice thoughts!
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tabong is ironing the crosswalk
September 10, 2023 at 12:49 PM
3. I found Si Heon (2002) weird since In Gyu's death and the airport scene. Si Heon (2002) and Si Heon (2006) are the same person, so I didn't understand why would he think Si Heon was going to try and save himself. He should've been the first to know that would chance the timeline and that Si Heon (2006) wouldn't want that, because technically he (2002) wouldn't want that either. They're the same person!
All he had to do was ask him for his cellphone and the ring and say bye.
And he knew In Gyu was gonna commit suicide but acted way too relaxed for someone that knew his bestie was going to die. Am not saying he could've prevented, but it just felt like he didn't even try to.
4. True, it's odd. Even if all he cared about in that timeline was Jun Hee, not knowing your bestie's family is too much. It doesn't make sense, not for someone like Si Heon.
5. You're right. That songs is more like a connection between Min Ju and Si Heon if you think about it.
And Chan Yeong being able time travel makes no sense if grief is really the second condition for it.
He has no connection with the song and he didn't lose anyone.
6. They tried to make Min Ju so weak and strong at the same time it was kinda annoying for me. Somehow she got this crazy determination to change and be Jun Hee that she became strong enough to take over and control everything, but that same girl thought getting killed was the best plan to get attention and be remembered? One sec all she wanted to do was live and one moment later she's preparing her funeral and manipulating people to make them kill her??
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chibi8535
September 12, 2023 at 11:04 PM
The TW drama answered one of your questions. It just so happened that I totally glossed over it. @emsel, this one is for you too! ... If grief is the 'precondition to TT, why is Chan Yeong, the creepy classmate murderer able to do it?'
So, the answer was in Ziwei's line (Siheon in TW version)....
'so every time, it is me, the boy from the past, who falls (will fall) madly in love with you, the girl from the future'
Yes, the 'chicken-or-the-egg' problem actually has an answer here. It is ALWAYS Junhee (our FL) who does the time-travelling FIRST in any given loop. Her (third wish on her 27th birthday in the TW drama) 'to see him again' intertwines with Minjoo's 17th birthday wish 'to become the girl Siheon (Ziwei) likes' ... and THAT is the point where all the hijinks kick off from. So, the grief isn't necessary for all time-travel, but it IS necessary as the starting point of the time travel sequence.
It makes even more sense now, why Siheon continued to wait on the sidelines for Junhee to hit the 2023 mark, and send her the cassette & the tape. And this is how, both the murderer and Siheon's switcheroo is able to happen. Because they both travel 'after' Junhee has already started off the time travel.
WHY on earth do remakes decide to leave out such crucial details, is beyond me! :/
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tabong is ironing the crosswalk
September 13, 2023 at 12:04 AM
Okay, so that makes the whole story make much more sense. Hahaha. Thanks!
But according to the remake, apart from the cassette tape, there's another condition to time travel. That's why when CY broke the tape, JH still was able to go back to 1998. I think it's because she was "desperate" to see SH.
And then there's my question, was CY that desperate to see Mi Jung? What was that strong emotion or connection that took him to 1998? At the end of the day, it didn't make a difference if he murdered MJ or not. In the second version she killed herself and In Gyu took the blame, again. So nothing changed.
The song, the memories, the affection, everything was connected to Si Heon and Jun Hee (and Mi Jung). But Chan Yeong... he didn't even took the situation seriously. It was like a game to him.
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chibi8535
September 11, 2023 at 12:15 AM
Basically, the character Siheon experiences the airport event from two POVs in any given TL. One as the leather-jacket wearing dude about to board a doomed aircraft and the other, as the walking-cane dude who has gone back into 2002, and lived to 2023 on the sidelines.
But every time the leather-jacket dude boards the plane and it crashes, he becomes the walking-cane dude, but not the SAME walking cane-dude. The proof, as per Siheon on the couch with Junhee, is the phone he receives from leather-jacket dude in this iteration. Which, he remembers, he clearly did NOT give to the walking-cane dude, when he HIMSELF was the dude in the leather jacket.
Trippy, right? So, the loops have the same outcomes regarding who dies, but the specifics around particular events is ever so slightly different. The loops are modifying, with every iteration, which have been happening over infinite times. So,
2. The proof is the phone he receives, but remembers, he clearly did not give. :P
3. He does not have the power to significantly change outcomes in any given loop. He falls back into the same pattern, and the same tragedies keep happening. However, from loop to loop, events modify slightly. If any of the 'big events' are messed with, they will all cease to exist. It will have the same effect as burning the tape/ cassette player. A reset of the timeline from absolute zero.
1. Had the same question. I remember it being explained in the original. Will get back to you once I finish!
4. Ditto. Makes no sense. In the original, the identity of the killer (pair of brothers) is a different third character who Yeonjun never knew. So there is no contradiction in this regard. However, they decided to make the change, because in the original too, the FL invites this 'third character' over to her house, and given the context of murders, it makes no sense to let in an almost-stranger. Inviting friends over, is relatively easier on the logic. But to solve one issue with the plot, they created another plot-hole! xD
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chibi8535
September 11, 2023 at 12:28 AM
5. The 1st ep of the remake isn't the 1st ep of the original. In a way, they almost cut out a prologue. In that, we see how Yeonjun and Junhee's relationship revolved around this song. To the point, it even became their 'couple-song'. (yes, very cheesy, but also touching, given the context). It's a series of sweet montage scenes. They would love singing this song in their love-nest, karaoke style. They attended this artist's concert in the early days of their dating. I think, they were even planning to attend once more, but this time, aren't able to, because Yeonjun's life is cut short. A lot of her dream-hallucinations about her dead lover is around that wishful imagination of attending that concert. She even goes into grief-spirals when she spots these tix. There is a scene with a VR, where she's able to 'attend' this concert, and the artist is singing this song. But she crumples onto the floor and sobs uncontrollably (first scene she breaks down in front of the viewers), as she realizes the boyfriend she's 'attending' the concert with, is actually dead.
In short, it's a special song to her too. The confusion when she wakes up as Minju & sees her 'dead' boyfriend' in a school uniform, is because she thinks she's hallucinating again, because she listened to 'that song'. T__T
6. Is linked to 1. So, i'll be back with answers. Gosh, I love this story so much! :')
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Reply1988 -❣️Mother Bean❣️
September 11, 2023 at 10:08 PM
I have to award you a 🫘Beansprout🌱 for community service as you have been all over this thread helping the confused beanies out.
The work the writers did to get this drama to make sense shows exceptional plotting skills. They should be running a masterclass. I do worry it could be like Healer is a weight around Wookie’s neck because finding the perfect marriage of story, actors and directing is a once in a lifetime experience. I looked up the previous work and the two writers worked on a previous drama together where the love story was seen as epic but no one liked the ending. Maybe this was their way of fixing their storytelling style to get the ending right.
Hopefully, this version of the story will draw people to check out the original and although I was better able to handle this version I do think the original will be better because it was the original.
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23 laszysunday
September 10, 2023 at 10:28 AM
Went to the drama without any expectation have to say really liked it a lot. I was also wondering how sad it would be, as people kept saying it's a heartbreaking melodrama.
But the drama had its fun moments! And I really liked ahn hyeo seop's character a lot. He reminded me of Chan from 30 but 17, in that drama he was continuously active, doing those boat rowing sports. Here too, he's playing basketball and football and as a student too, which suits his age and personality I think. Also the banter between Yeon-Jun and Jun-Hee were lotta fun. And jeon yeo bin also played her character well. Although I see that she looks a bit older to play a school student but since she had to play someone 36 years old I understand why it had to be that way.
What else kang hoon was an important part of the story. The song of time travel perfectly fits the mood of '98 and 2023. Being the same old as the main leads here the past year made me nostalgic lol.
I think the story was really neat and the direction filming style too. Also like someone else said the narrative was really clear and although there were so many timelines they explained through the dialogues quite well what was happening.
I do not still understand how Si-Heon the original one kind of disappeared personlity wise but I do not try to understand haha. At the end I was just happy that the mystery was solved lol.
Probably Im gonna watch it again now I know how it till the end is. :D
I missed a nice school drama and also kdramas have been bit of boring lately so I think story wise I enjoyed it a lot. Don't think a year specific drama was so good lately since reply 1988.
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24 🌸 Seeker 🌸
September 10, 2023 at 12:46 PM
Still processing ... just some non sequiturs
Finally loved Ahn Hyo-seop in something which was not Still 17 ... did it help that he looked like Chan (miss the duck)!
Kang Hoon 😍 🥰 🤩
Also ... waiting for your drama as ML.
Is the word wholesome in the dictionary defined to mean Kang Hoon?
Two Jeon Yeo-been dramas have gay / pretend gay characters in ep 8
Tae Ha - A Time Called You (Rowoon)
Tae Ho - Vincenzo (Song Joong-ki)
Any particular reason for the similar sounding names?
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Reply1988 -❣️Mother Bean❣️
September 10, 2023 at 12:52 PM
‘Finally loved Ahn Hyo-seop in something which was not Still 17 ... did it help that he looked like Chan (miss the duck)!’ 👈🏾 So glad your said that as I was having a hard time recognising him as he looked so different in Business Proposal and then I saw him in this and thought finally his sweet face is back.
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missjb
September 10, 2023 at 3:33 PM
Yeah....there is some appearance ahn hyo seop look alot like his character in still 17 yoo chan
I miss seeing him playing bubbly character like chamin or yoochan.
Ahn Hyo Seop used play cold or tsundere character these past three years. YeH i don't blame him since that kind of char abit more closer to his persona in real life
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🌸 Seeker 🌸
September 10, 2023 at 9:19 PM
I too think AHS plays warm and bubbly characters rather well.
I have seen videos where he was singing but have not seen much bts scenes or interviews ... low-key disenchanted to know his real personality veers towards tsundere. But then I guess that is what makes a good actor 😃
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missjb
September 10, 2023 at 10:26 PM
He is introvert and timid. in his earlier career he admits he is someone who can't easily get close with someone. So it tend to appear tsundere persona at first glance, and it actually make him Convincing as tsundere guy
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🌸 Seeker 🌸
September 10, 2023 at 11:55 PM
Feels like timid and introverted people make for the most expressive actors. From what little I have seen of his bts scenes he seems warm hearted nevertheless and that happy / half-laugh is all AHS.
🌸 Seeker 🌸
September 10, 2023 at 11:57 PM
Also very expressi e eyes!!
missjb
September 11, 2023 at 12:23 PM
@cera. Yeah he seems so cheerful and alive in a time caled you bts I actualy quite surprise. He was mostly more quite during dr romantic 3 bts.
You are right he has an expressive eyes!
25 Miss_elly
September 10, 2023 at 4:10 PM
Can I just say I have just finished episode 8 and I am so confused about how there are two si heon’s in 2007?!?! Do I just turn my brain off? Are they the same person?!
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Reply1988 -❣️Mother Bean❣️
September 11, 2023 at 9:15 PM
Hopefully you have jumped back into the comments and seen the brilliant job @chibi8535 has done in explaining this exact mind boggling moment to me above and @findzinu below.
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26 sakuradaydream
September 10, 2023 at 6:02 PM
I finished this series but I didn't watch the original Taiwanese version yet so I don't think I have a right to "critique" on it but I have to admit that the plot was quite confusing.
I struggled to comprehend what the heck was going on, even after the airport scene.
But overall it was a sweet story and I will never be falling in love when this man travelled through time and space just to be with her :'))))
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27 Cay_sbtgoG
September 10, 2023 at 8:20 PM
Still on ep 4, so I'll hold on commenting.
But on superficial level, Jeon Yeo Bin is lovely. The most beautiful among K actresses IMO.
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28 z7nu
September 11, 2023 at 9:24 AM
Watching this as a clean slate, I enjoyed how the story played out and will definitely be a fan of Yeon-been going forward . She fleshed out her characters so well and the director/wardrobe team excelled in making Jun-hee's character shine.
I was hoping someone can help me understand why there are two version of Siheon at the airport that day as there is only one soul of Siheon. If we're to follow the theory that the soul returns to the body after the crash, why would Si-heon's soul still be in Yeon-jun when he returned to his body already? If we were to travel back in time to 2002, the owner of Yeon-jun's body would have no recollection of Si-heon's memory with Jun-hee and wouldn't pursue her (Yeon-jun also has a different sexual orientation). Am I missing something here? Definitely need some help to understand the timelines!
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chibi8535
September 11, 2023 at 10:42 AM
Okay, so it's the same as how there are 'two Junhees' in 1998, as well. One of them is the Junhee from 2023 (her soul) who's lost her boyfriend to the plane crash, that travels into Minju's body. Remember, we see Siheon being awfully sweet to a little girl, secretly buying her the street snack behind her Grandma, and also standing up for her kiosk-gaming rights? That little girl is also Junhee. The real Junhee (aka Junhee's body as well as soul).
The little girl does not cease to exist, just because her 36 year old soul from the future travels into her doppelganger's body in 1998. Similarly, we also have a scene with the creepy killer dude, who's travelled into his older brother lookalike's body, and is telling his little psycho self that he can continye to be psycho as long as he hides it well.
It's the same with Siheon too. There is a Siheon in Yeonjun's body, and there is a Siheon in his own body. These 2 NEVER cross paths, until the airport scene, because the Siheon in his own body has refrained from contacting either Junhee or his soul in Yeonjun's body.
So the way there are 2 of these time travelling characters is because, 1 of them is body + soul, and the other is the time travelled version (only soul + doppelganger body).
I know, it's super trippy. I too got it after watching multiple number of times 🤣
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z7nu
September 11, 2023 at 8:28 PM
Thank you! I appreciate it!
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29 z7nu
September 11, 2023 at 9:31 AM
Storyline aside, Jeon Yeo Bin's beauty was overwhelming at times (definitely understand why Si-Heon took so much effort to be with her).
Surprisingly, my favorite scene in the drama was when she officiated their relationship after their bus ride home. There's something about the way she delivered her lines in that scene that made it so impactful; I rewatched it so many times.
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Reply1988 -❣️Mother Bean❣️
September 11, 2023 at 9:11 PM
👋 Welcome to the beanie community hopefully you will have fun with other dramas too and continue to see how helpful the beanie community can be😊
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30 DancingEmma
September 11, 2023 at 9:29 PM
I’m not reading any of the comments in case might inadvertently read even a hint of a spoiler. I wanted to come to this with as little info as possible beyond what I know already.
There is this one scene that I saw in the first ep which maybe portends to a multiple timelines’ shenanigans?
And, I remain impressed by how actors in their thirties could be fairly convincingly made up to look like high schoolers although with very good skins and adult composure.
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31 traceymoon
September 11, 2023 at 10:28 PM
Can someone explain how in gyu remembers them decorating for Christmas ? Where does that fit on the timeline
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Ally
September 12, 2023 at 5:12 AM
I thought that was off too. Unless they decorated way back in October. Because she was gone by October 13th. She did come back, but they were all separated again pretty quickly after everyone survived. Also, the poor girl who originally was murdered was still dead in the new timeline, correct? They didn’t go far enough back to save her too. Or did the new timeline change everything in the past as well? And what happened to the psychopathic younger brother in the new timeline? Did he grow up to be a different serial killer? Did he learn empathy and is an upstanding citizen now? And did the timeline of the BL couple change or are they both still dead too? I need to see that they are ok! I would have loved a short montage of all the other characters to see how their lives differed after the change of history.
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traceymoon
September 12, 2023 at 7:19 AM
Yess!! Soo many questions
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chibi8535
September 12, 2023 at 8:26 AM
A misplaced token Christmas scene, I believe. 🙈
Because in the original, she dies on the Chinese NY Eve. There could be an error while adapting, I believe!
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traceymoon
September 13, 2023 at 4:04 AM
I was so confused 🤣🤣
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32 Hanamana
September 12, 2023 at 5:09 AM
OMG! I loved it as much as the original and I became sad and cried all over again!
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33 DancingEmma
September 18, 2023 at 1:30 AM
I’ve just started ep 5 and am wondering whether Yeonjun existed at all. Hopefully, some of the mystery might clear up in this midway episode.
I’m in a bit of a funk as a subdued and/or depressed Kang Hoon is so much less fun to watch than an exuberant one (obviously) so I wish he had been given the main lead as he would have been wonderful in that role. Ahn HyoSeop is serviceable but he does acting by numbers which is not comparable to Kang Hoon’s immersion in his roles.
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34 DancingEmma
September 21, 2023 at 5:42 PM
I am assuming most Beanies have moved on from this drama but I only just finished it a couple of days ago and wanted to share my thoughts.
Honestly, at the end I found this a distressing watch for reasons which might not resonate with others.
I really wanted to like this as I can’t resist time travel-based stories which include friendships and yearning but at the end, this just didn’t work for me for a number of reasons:
1. Violence against women: This is an all too pervasive and disturbing occurence which is used in both Korean and non-Korean shows to create tension and a narrative trajectory. It is so often used thoughtlessly and it is important because representation matters and how it is done. In RL women are brutalised in a number of ways and I wish people who make dramas could be much more thoughtful and intentional. There was absolutely no need for Minju to be attacked and killed in the original timeline or terrorised in the alternate one. She could have been hit by the car in a tragic accident. Hence, the psycho killer character was totally unnecessary and apart from the actor looking ridiculous as a grown man pretending to be a teenager, it occupied precious time which could have been used to flesh out sorely needed subplots and characters. I hated it.
2. Minju going MIA and being trapped in the purgatory: I also viscerally disliked that a character who was extremely timid, isolated, lonely and vulnerable was ‘trapped’ in purgatory and was forgotten for a large chunk of the series. It was cruel and heartbreaking. Junhee could’nt or didn’t want to communicate with her while she was occupying Minju’s body and I found that incredibly devastating and distressing. I appreciate that these were based on the original but there is a horror story here which wasn’t dwelled on and acknowledged in any shape or form but in the most perfunctory manner at the end. I understand the focus of the story was on the main characters but I found Minju’s loneliness, isolation and self-loathing so much more profoundly affecting than the main separated lovers.
3. Yeonjun’s untold story: I wanted to know so much more about Yeonjun’s life. He deserved so much better as an important character and one who was the sole LGBTIQ referenced one. In those ten minutes, AHS and Rowoon were memorable and poignant. It remains terrible that LGBTIQ characters are still depicted as tragic characters in a 2023 Korean production and are killed off to expedite the story. I find that so disheartening and upsetting.
3. The perfunctory apology to Minju: To me this was too little and too late in the piece and even though it was intended to be a salve for a damaged and vulnerable soul, it fell so short of a meaningful apology. The the drama thought it would be enough to including cheap self-empowerment advice which was hokey and unrealistic. Minju needed significant support and care to get better. Just one confession from Ingyu wouldn’t cut it.
4. Ingyu’s woeful arc: That a...
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DancingEmma
September 21, 2023 at 5:47 PM
4. Ingyu’s woeful arc: That a person with a disability who was still excelling in his studies despite all his circumstances, would be given such horrific arcs was just beyond the pale. What made it even worse was that as viewers we were given so little insight of what came of his life and Minjoos.
In the end, I wish I hadn’t watched this so the decision is on me but it was such a wasted opportunity.
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🌸 Seeker 🌸
September 22, 2023 at 12:06 AM
Thank you for sharing your perspective in such eloquent detail.
These are indeed sore points and that this drama did nothing but brush them under the carpet.
Just talking about the Korean adaption - perhaps they really should have taken the global perspective into account considering it is on Netflix and given due credence to both Minjoo and Yeonjun’s characters. That would have made the drama more rounded.
It was little difficult to root for Junhee and Si-heon because of the shadow cast by Minjoo and Yeonjun.
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DancingEmma
September 22, 2023 at 1:31 AM
@seeker: Thanks for taking the time to read it and for letting me know your thoughts.
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🌸 Seeker 🌸
September 22, 2023 at 2:48 AM
Sure, anytime.
I find it is really therapeutic to discuss how our dramas made us feel. These views as I said are only for the Korean adaption. While commendable in its own way certain narrative choices made it feel little disjointed and jarring.
Having seen (and being greatly affected by) the original, the wonderfully evocative article by @leetennant captures all its beauty and yes the one sour note. I too read the article twice. So moving and so beautifully written
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I believe there was a movie which did give Quan Sheng's backstory, however I have not seen it.
Thank you to both of you for sharing your thoughts.
LT is Irresistibly Indifferent and reminded of the slow march of death
September 22, 2023 at 12:11 AM
Out of curiosity, have you seen the original?
I guess not and you probably don't want to now.
You could read my piece on the last few episodes to ge some perspective on it.
I haven't seen the Korean adaptation but I believe they made a change to the ending that will make those horrible things more stark than they were in the original.
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DancingEmma
September 22, 2023 at 12:24 AM
I couldn’t find the original otherwise I would’ve. Yep. I will give it a miss I think even if I find it one day.
I’d like to read your piece for sure. I haven’t read the comments as for once I thought I would go in largely unaware so will look for it. If not there, I will check your fan page.
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LT is Irresistibly Indifferent and reminded of the slow march of death
September 22, 2023 at 12:27 AM
It's here if you're interested
http://invisibledragon.home.blog/2020/02/22/the-past-is-another-country-someday-one-day-episode-13/
DancingEmma
September 22, 2023 at 12:51 AM
I just finished reading your piece and it made me cry. You have written it so beautifully and eloquently that my heart broke as I read it. Despite this, I will read it again. Thank you for bringing it to my attention.
Thank
LT is Irresistibly Indifferent and reminded of the slow march of death
September 22, 2023 at 2:02 AM
Oh thanks so much, what a lovely thing to say
35 daebak dramatist
September 29, 2023 at 7:56 AM
I just finished watching it and loved it! It was one of the best kdrama watches I've had in a long time. I do have some questions though:
1) So Jun Hee never actually met or fell in love with Yeon Jun? There was a Yeon Jun, but he never actually crossed paths with Jun Hee?
2) Didn't they imply that Si Heon was just about to start a relationship with Tae Ha before the car crash? They held hands and then the crash happened and Tae Ha died. So what exactly was going on there? I thought there was going to be a reveal later that Si Heon was actually gay, but they just dropped that whole thread after the crash.
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DancingEmma
October 2, 2023 at 1:59 AM
They egregiously killed off the real Yeonjun who was gay and in love with Taeha in that timeline.
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Kurama
October 2, 2023 at 2:17 AM
Yeojun never shared his body with Si-Heon. He was living his own life, falling in love with Tae-Hae, etc until he died. But Si-Heon took over his body and lived with Yeo-Jun's name but tried to find Jun-Hee.
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36 Dally
October 13, 2024 at 12:29 AM
This movie is really good I enjoyed it and very sad: A Time Called You
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