Revenant: Episodes 9-10
by lovepark
Our heroes must find a way to get rid of the spirit before it destroys them and the people they cherish most. However, the closer they get to the truth, the more dangerous it gets, and every step forward feels like a trap. Will our team be able to solve this mystery and stop the spirit, or will it bring them to their demise like all those before them?
EPISODES 9-10
Things ramp up this week as our heroes discover a pivotal secret concerning the spirit inside San-young. However, anyone who gets too close to the truth meets their untimely end, and the latest victim is Mun-chun. His death is ruled a suicide like all the others, but Hong-sae and Hae-sang know better, which makes this loss even harder for them to accept.
Still harboring doubts about San-young, Hong-sae tails her in hopes of finding more clues, and comes face-to-face with the spirit again. He has a longer interaction with her this time around, and without any preconceived notions about the spirit, he notices something the others missed: it does not act like a young child. Though Hae-sang dismisses his theory at first, his own research leads him to a middle school yearbook, and suddenly, things start to fall into place.
Meanwhile, San-young also comes to the same conclusion as she realizes that the timeline of Mok-dan’s disappearance does not align with the spirit’s memory. The only logical explanation is that someone else turned into the ghost… which means Hae-sang’s grandmother is hiding more secrets.
With her vision worsening at a rapid pace, San-young joins Hae-sang’s search for the five objects, but unlike the others, she hopes to keep the spirit tied to this world. Sensing something off about her, Hae-sang begins to distrust San-young, but still allows her to tag along since he needs her powers to figure out the spirit’s name.
They arrive at an abandoned building to look for the fourth object and find it hidden in the ceiling. As soon as San-young touches it, she freezes in place, and then lurches forward, screaming for water. She runs to a nearby convenience store and breaks the fridge to guzzle down an entire jug.
As Hae-sang stops her, the spirit possessing San-young blames him and his family for starving her for seven days and killing her. He accepts her condemnation, but points out that she acted the same as them by using him for her own gain. He asks why she needs the five objects, and the spirit tells him to find the last one if he wants to know the answer.
Digging more into Junghyeon Capital, Hong-sae discovers a hospital tied to the company and hears a strange story from the director: Hae-sang’s grandmother killed Woo-jin. He passes this along to Hae-sang who then takes this information to Vice President Kim. Realizing that the person he serves killed his son, Vice President Kim breaks his vow of secrecy and tells Hae-sang everything he knows.
One night, he overheard Hae-sang’s father ask Grandmother for a way to break the curse in order to save his wife. He said that money was not worth it, so she handed him the instructions… but it was a trap. Hae-sang’s father fell ill and starved to death — the spirit physically stopping him from even taking a sip. Wow, worst mother of the year.
At the station, Hong-sae comes across another crucial piece of information — this time about San-young. He confronts her at her house, but stops his interrogation when he notices her fidgeting. Pretending to leave, he catches her stumble around the room. With no way to hide her condition, she tells him that the spirit can fix her sight, but Hong-sae reveals the reason for his visit: the spirit’s next target is her mom.
San-young freaks out after hearing the news, but Hong-sae calms her down enough to tell her that he plans to catch the spirit possessing her. He asks what she wants to do now, and she says that she needs to see Hae-sang. Once everyone is gathered, she tells the others that she wants to get rid of the spirit, too.
In order to trust her, Hae-sang asks her to share everything she knows and correctly guesses that the spirit threatened to hurt them if she said anything. Both Hae-sang and Hong-sae assure her that they are not afraid, so San-young tells them what she saw when Mun-chun died. She remembers the first character on the sheet, and Hae-sang deduces the rest from that: it was Mok-dan’s family register.
The team hits a dead end, though, since the original copy was destroyed, and they have no other leads about Mok-dan’s family besides her name. Despite these setbacks, Hae-sang discovers a silver lining and informs the others that “The Safe Day” (the one day a year when ghosts cannot appear) is soon approaching.
The night before The Safe Day, the spirit possesses San-young and finds Hae-sang’s grandmother. She tells her that he will come tomorrow to learn her name, and Grandmother asks if she plans to kill Hae-sang. The spirit wonders if she cannot, but Grandmother says that she already killed her husband and son: “Why would a grandson be any different?” We see in a flashback that Hae-sang’s grandmother joined hands with the spirit from the beginning, and in the present, she vows to keep her promise, calling the spirit Hyang-yi.
So many questions! The biggest one is about that ending and the way the show edited those scenes together. On the surface, it seems the spirit is talking with Hae-sang’s grandmother, and her paper calendar says that it is the 27th of February. However, in between, the show cuts to Hae-sang and Hong-sae looking pensive, and on Hong-sae’s phone, the date is February 28th, The Safe Day. Either Vice President Kim lent them a hand to trick Grandmother, or we’re seeing two different times spliced together for some undetermined reason.
The big reveal this week is the spirit’s true identity. While there were plenty of hints that the spirit was probably not Mok-dan (or at least not just her), I thought it was a good twist that answered a lot of questions and introduced a handful of new ones to propel the story forward for two more episodes. It explained one of the biggest mysteries lingering in the background — why did the others fail? — while also establishing the reason behind their demise. It isn’t a coincidence that San-young and Hae-sang thought it was Mok-dan because the spirit and Grandmother have been using her name and death as a cover from the start of their alliance. However, it’s still unclear what Hyang-yi wants so desperately to the point of killing people because if she was after revenge, then why not take Hae-sang’s grandmother?
From the way Hae-sang’s father acted while possessed, it seems Hyang-yi is bitter about having her life cut short, and in some ways, it reflects San-young’s desire. Unlike Hae-sang who sacrifices his well-being to pursue the spirit, San-young has always valued self-preservation above all else. The reason she wanted to get rid of the spirit in the first place was because it made her lose control of herself and endangered her life. Thus, when the spirit aligns with her wishes, San-young falters more than she ever did before. However, what makes our protagonist different from the spirit or Hae-sang’s grandmother is that she cherishes something even more than herself: her mom. Once the spirit targets her mom, San-young does not hesitate for a moment because, to her, there is no point in seeing a future where her mom does not exist.
This concept of ties is significant throughout the show, and serves not only as the protagonist’s motivation but also as a central theme separating the heroes from the villains. San-young and the others work better together and make progress by using their connections, whereas the villains work alone and see others as expendable. The spirit moves from host to host, killing them when they become useless to her, and Hae-sang’s grandmother does not value any sort of relationship — she only cares about money. It’s their lack of connections (and compassion, in general) that makes them feel ominous because it heightens their selfishness and ruthlessness.
The importance of ties is also evident through Hae-sang who, at his core, is a lonely soul who lives in a world no one else can see. Contrary to his grandmother, Hae-sang craves human connections, but he thinks no one understands him so he keeps them at a distance. However, so many people around Hae-sang care for him deeply, but the heartbreaking thing is that he never realizes this fact until they are gone. Even with Mun-chun, Hae-sang only understood how much the detective treasured their relationship after he died when he saw the socks kept safely in the closet for his next birthday. It makes sense, though, that Hae-sang struggles with opening up since he grew up in a house where his only remaining family member wanted him dead. Hopefully, once they defeat the spirit, Hae-sang can find peace and learn that he is deserving of love like everyone else in the world.
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1 Kafiyah Bello
July 23, 2023 at 12:38 PM
Kim Tae Ri is Ahmazing. She is so good in this role. I love that we now name the name of the evil spirit. So both siblings were killed, how awful. I also find it really interesting that she plans on fully taking over poor San Young. She wants a second chance at life. I honestly really feel for the evil spirit.
As for Hae Sang, I hope he finds love in this particular found family and his terrible grandmother croaks. Awful woman.
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Nefret
July 23, 2023 at 1:01 PM
The grandmother really is pure evil. Not only does she have two children sacrificed for money and power and has the evil spirit eliminate all those who get in her way, she also had no inhibitions about sacrificing her husband and son when they wanted to free themselves from the clutches of the spirit.
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indyfan
July 23, 2023 at 11:25 PM
The writers are doing a good job of making us feel for the ghost. Not to erase her evilness but adding a layer of humanity to it. At first, I was rolling my eyes a bit with the ghost clubbing (first major clue she's just a misunderstood teen, lol) after killing the detective. I guess she couldn't party in Prof Gu's body. But the scenes at the amusement park were so well done, with her longing for life and love. A simple gesture of ML picking up her soft toy left her vulnerable. And of course, as we learn more about her manner of death, we understand her desire for vengeance more.
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knewbie
July 24, 2023 at 12:55 AM
I think Mok-dan might still be alive, but living as Hyang-yi.
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Jingbee
July 24, 2023 at 4:45 AM
This is my theory, too. Let's see if we are right.
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knewbie
July 24, 2023 at 9:58 AM
Hmm. We do see poor Mok-dan suffering under that blue brocade in the Yeoms' shed, but the cops haven't found any dead body (only a finger!).
I think Hyang-gi might have been an earlier illegitimate child whom Mok-dan's family had to pass off as a distant relation or foster daughter, or maybe even abandon. (And I bet the art teacher at the middle school, whose book Hyang-yi is trying to hide, is involved in some way.) Perhaps the family had to trick Hyang-yi into replacing Mok-dan before the shaman killed the wrong girl, the juvenile ghost failed to pop up, and the villagers had to return all the rice and cows and chickens. If that's the case, then Hyang-yi has even more reason to be mad as hell.
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Cecee is done DramaQueening
July 26, 2023 at 3:28 AM
But Kim Hae-sook is so wonderful at being awful. Her creepy range always mesmerises me.
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2 jillian
July 23, 2023 at 1:34 PM
KTR is so excellent on this drama that I am glad she chose this. OJS and HK are great as well but KTR has the juiciest role of all.
I have said this before Kim Hae Sook is great as evil grandma as well. I like that she chose various genres. Now to the character, I can't believe she chose money over her own family. Her greed knows no bounds and the scariest one here. I can't believe she had those kids killed for her own gain. In her mind her own grandson is useless so might as well get him killed by the ghost.
I still wonder at the end game of the ghost, i think it plans to kill off the Yeom family including grandma. But also plan to include SY and her mom. It will kill everyone that was responsible for her death. Will it be at peace then?
I almost feel bad that the show will end next week. I enjoy watching every episode.
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indyfan
July 23, 2023 at 11:35 PM
She really is the evil grandma incarnate, isn't she? A little too much tho for my taste. Show did try to show her suffering from DV but it didn't leave much of an impact.
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jillian
July 24, 2023 at 12:05 AM
She killed too many people and she does not care for anyone else but money. I do not condone abuse or violence of any kind. I think the show is just showing snippets of her life but does not necessarily aim to get sympathy for her. She has showed no remorse for the deaths she caused of anyone or even from anyone from her own family. What I took away from those scenes is she is a psychopath.
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Cecee is done DramaQueening
July 26, 2023 at 4:43 AM
I know what you mean, but I still find her tonnes more interesting as a character than San-young's mum (whom I am completely ready to sacrifice because she bores me to death)
So, I am willing the save the psychopathic murderer and throw the mum under the bus... Oops
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indyfan
July 26, 2023 at 7:01 AM
Oh, it's such a juicy role. I don't deny it! Re mama. I agree hard to love the character. But it's more about what she means to SY. We don't get to choose the ones we love. Am I projecting my mommy issues as you might be? Maybe, maybe. 😇
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Cecee is done DramaQueening
July 26, 2023 at 7:09 AM
Well, one could argue that technically you do get to choose the ones you love.
Me projecting? Did I make it too obvious? Lol
indyfan
July 26, 2023 at 7:27 AM
*correction: the one's we're born to.
jillian
July 26, 2023 at 8:27 AM
Yes the mom has been one note, paranoia and worry for her daughter. But at the time we didnt know about her dad's possession. For me, once that was revealed I understood her more. Her acting was still one note though.
Yes the psycho murderer grandma role can be interesting as an actor and audience.
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3 Xpressemu
July 23, 2023 at 2:16 PM
I am so excited to see how this concludes next week! The mystery element was woven into the story so well with the creepiness and the interesting historical folklore—they all enriched each other. This show is the only one recently that kept me enticed and more invested as it progressed.
Kim Eun-hee is definitely back to form with this one. So much so that I forgive (and forget) that Jirisan ever happened. RIP.
Also, the scene with San-young freezing after she touched the bottle was the best scary scene so far!
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indyfan
July 23, 2023 at 11:40 PM
That was a classic horror scene. Once she froze, I knew we were in for a good old-fashioned scare, but it still worked. I jumped when she screamed.
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4 captainlaika
July 23, 2023 at 2:30 PM
I really like the Hyang-yi twist, though I have some questions of what exactly then happened to Mok-dan. Was that shaman still involved?
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FiyaShady
July 23, 2023 at 5:46 PM
My husband realized that it was not Mokdan since eps 7 or 8 (scene where both grandma and grandpa when they were young and chose to make the Yeolmae). He said it was a different hand, not smaller one (like kid Mokdan small) when the shaman stabbing death the girl in the blanket.
Question now, Mokdan was killed at different timeline but how? Due to starvation too? They are still many vague scene behind those 2 sisters.
And I thought it was last week for this drama 😅. Luckily we still have 1 week to go 🫣.
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captainlaika
July 23, 2023 at 6:43 PM
Woah, eagle eyed, nice catch!
Exactly, those are a lot of my questions. Part of the reason the characters thought it was Mok-dan was because how many deaths occurred around the incident (like the investigators and reporters) but in retrospect, it's easy to see that Hyang-yi was probably playing the long game.
On the other hand, the wrong dates being a clue, and the fact that we haven't been given any reason to assume the flashbacks around Mok-dan were wrong (just misleading) seems to mean that Mok-dan was also killed for a similar reason, just slightly before or after? I don't have any answers really, but I'm very curious what happened! I also want to know about Hyang-yi, and what kind of person she was when she was still alive
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jillian
July 24, 2023 at 12:34 AM
The same shaman was involved in both deaths. Munchun mentioned that Mokdan was not the second born so its possible that Hyangi was the second born so they had to kill her too.
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5 asterell
July 23, 2023 at 3:59 PM
Was so startled in the bathroom scene even though I was expecting it.
This drama is going to get a binge rewatch when it's over, and KTR is just getting better and better. Truly amazing.
Does anyone have a guess on why they needed to kill both siblings?
Also, the cliffhanger at the end of 9 got intense fast. I wish it was actually the ghost knocking instead of the mom though
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pohonphee
July 23, 2023 at 5:15 PM
I just yelled DO NOT open the door!!
Then it was mom 😂
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jillian
July 24, 2023 at 12:41 AM
Munchun mentioned that Mokdan was not the second born so its possibly Hyangyi was the one so thats why they had to kill her too.
I actually wanted it to be not the mom too but then the ghost has other plans for SY and her mom.
Regarding the cliffhanger on ep10, it was rather careless of grandma to easily say the ghost's name. I want to find out that SY was acting to get info from grandma. But we will only know next week whats the real deal.
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asterell
July 24, 2023 at 2:38 AM
So, for the order of events:
SY saw the record of mokdan's body being delivered on 6/24, so I think it's safe to say mokdan did die, but maybe hyangi had to be killed after they realized mokdan wasn't the second born.
But, If hyangi is older than mokdan, but mokdan wasn't the second born, that means hyangi has an older sibling ?? (I think they're related, since the ghost killed munchun for having mokdan's family registry).
On the ep 10 cliffhanger, I thought the butler tricked the grandma by changing the calendar date, and SY was acting all along. But, I think there's reason to doubt since ep 9 cliffhanger didn't turn out like expected..
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Hanamana
July 24, 2023 at 5:22 AM
Maybe Hyangi was killed a few years later in her teens. That way she'd be older than Mokdan while being killed.
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asterell
July 24, 2023 at 8:03 AM
@jillian oohhh, yeah a second 'sacrifice' years later is plausible when they realized the first one didn't work. do you guys remember if the show said the company's financial fortunes reversed in 1958? i just remember '58/59 being an "important" year for the company
Cecee is done DramaQueening
July 26, 2023 at 4:46 AM
What? Like kill everyone in sight until it works? I love the idea, this is so absurdly dark, I love it.
jillian
July 24, 2023 at 7:25 AM
We can assume that Hyangyi was an older sibling. I read someone's theory that they could be twins. If they were, HY was killed years later. I don't remember if it was established when they killed the child in their shed. Or another possiblity was HY was not a twin but just an older sibling. Not sure why the villagers didnt know that MD was not a second born unless her parents hid that fact or there was a twin switcheroo.
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6 pohonphee
July 23, 2023 at 5:12 PM
I want to know why suddenly the ghost moves from 1st son of Yeom family to prof. Gu Kangmo and his descendant? And Yeom family can keep the money after the ghost moving?
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indyfan
July 23, 2023 at 11:42 PM
I don't think the ghost takes away the money or bad luck follows when the ghost is no longer actively working for a household. They just have to make/keep their money the regular way. That said, looks like grandma and ghost are still in cahoots so I dunno.
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knewbie
July 24, 2023 at 12:29 AM
Since Hae-sang's mum took off with him immediately after his dad's funeral, and Hae-sang saw himself when he opened the door at the bed and breakfast (leading to his mum's death), it looks like the ghost DID pass from the dad to Hae-sang before she possessed Prof Gu.
The question is what exactly happened during Hae-sang's possession, and how Prof Gu managed to get the ghost to possess himself instead. It could be due to the relatively short duration of Hae-sang's possession that he doesn't remember causing his mum's death (and possibly Woo-jin's accident). Also, the flashback to Vice-President Kim visiting Prof Gu at his home suggests that Gu had been watching Hae-sang, and - thanks to the items VP Kim gave him - had eventually managed to transfer the ghost from Hae-sang to himself.
I think the ghost's aim is to return to the Yeom family and torment them for eternity. This will be possible only if the five items are destroyed and the Yeoms can never get rid of her. I also have a bad feeling that Hae-sang will sacrifice himself to destroy her...
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Gikata
July 24, 2023 at 5:05 PM
Ghost is connected to that red daenggi which HS's mom failed to burn when she was killed. Maybe damage done by fire was enough to weaken ghost and thus HS slipped away from her clutches at the time? Then Prof Gu finds daenggi with the ghost still in it, willingly accept possession and the rest is history...
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knewbie
July 25, 2023 at 12:42 AM
But I think the ghost had already possessed HS when HS's mum was hanging herself. Based on the conversation between Prof Gu and grandma (which Woo-jin overheard), Prof Gu was still trying to transfer (or "acquire") the ghost some time after the mum's death.
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Gikata
July 25, 2023 at 1:03 AM
I meant that daenggi being half-burnt made ghost too weak to hold onto HS permanently as it was initially planned. He probably was possessed after touching it for the first time in the car - few hours (?) before mom's death - so not long enough for ghost to properly "settle in". And then there's also this super vague issue of host's willingness that may or may not affect the way possession goes... Or why was ghost even tempting SY to accept and use her?
7 sakuradaydream
July 23, 2023 at 6:22 PM
this show has been nothing but amazing. The last time a drama has been this solid was when Happiness was still airing.
Really looking forward to the conclusion!
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8 indyfan
July 24, 2023 at 12:14 AM
While I'm waiting for @gikata to come and point out the plots holes I missed 😂 I just want to appreciate the acting. First, the two MLs. While I'm not a fan of the stoic and blank school of acting, it does make it more satisfying when the facade cracks. It would have been better if they'd developed their connection with Mun-chun more before his death, but still moving.
I also loved the connection btwn Hong-sae and San-young. Both of his scenes with blind SY and possessed SY had such undercurrents. I don't need a romance arc, just noticing I feel their chemistry more than some of our rom-coms.
Other than that, I was also confused if it was the possessed SY visiting grandma or if SY was merely pretending. I think it was a misdirect, and as non-possessed SY is not so slick, so I go with the ghost. Now, and I know it's gruesome, but I predict we'll see a bloodbath in the final episodes, but not Mom, I think. I suspect Grandma and HS, the character just scream tragic arc to me, but this is Kdrama, so...
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Gikata
July 24, 2023 at 4:57 PM
You called?)))
Agree that male leads acting makes sense - more for Haesang than young cop whom we still know so little about, but ok - as not only older/calmer people by nature/profession, but also the fact that they are NOT possessed by a moody murderous dead teen girl. Poor FL gets most the heavy lifting in terms of emotional outbursts while they mostly provide contrast to that with their cool, non-overpopulated heads.
Really don't want HS to die, but you're right, he's the most obvious choice if ending is supposed to be tragic(((
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9 Jingbee
July 24, 2023 at 5:01 AM
Hands down, this is the best airing show to-date (not that I am predestined to like this given that this is my genre). However, bias aside, i think acting -wise this show tops all the shows - I mean, KTR, OJS , KHS, and HK are all bringing forth excellent acting here. The scenes when Haesang discovered the socks supposed to be gifted to him by Munchun - brought ugly tears. And the scene of Hong-sae finally giving way to his grief - was just heartbreaking. Of course, Kim Tae-ri - carrying us along with her in the roller coaster of her and the ghost's emotions - be it despair, fear, courage, rage, simply superb.
I also like the fact, that until the end, we are still surprised by the twists, and there is enough mystery left until the finale. Can't wait for next week!.
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10 Emperor
July 24, 2023 at 5:20 AM
I've been following this show since the beginning but this is the first time I posted on this recap (just a week before it ended!). I loved the writing. It is a solid return to the form of Kim Eun-Hee, after the Jirisan disaster.
This drama makes me think of Hideo Nakata's Ringu, for some reason, namely the way the curse manifests itself to lead to people's death: the death by watching videotape in Ringu, and here is the death with mysterious bruises and unexplained suicide.
There are also similarities with Kim Eun-Hee's last work Jirisan: both series actually follow a string of murders disguised as 1) natural incidents and 2) supernatural deaths when its actually someone else pulling the tricks behind, and in Revenant's case it is actually a supernatural being doing the deeds.
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Emperor
July 24, 2023 at 5:32 AM
Also, when at first I was taken aback by the fact that this is yet another "*rich chaebols* doing bad stuff, this time supernatural, I can see the parallels with the shamanic ritual in my country.
(As a background: I live in Southeast Asia)
It is not common here for rich people to seek shamanism and mysticism as a "shortcut" to gain even more wealth. Several rich conglomerates and groups are rumored to be regular donators to some dubious pilgrimage site. I do not know if Kim Eun-Hee's research into some conglomerates from my country, but I do know a huge group here (they're major property players) who's rumored to gain a pact with the Devil himself, after making offerings with one of the well-known pilgrimage temple here.
And yes, just like in Revenant, many of the competitors to this group suffered mysterious deaths UP until this group established their own hospital chains (after that hospital was established, rumor on the street is that the Devil that this group made a pact with prefer to prey on patients inside that hospital). Also, the oldest son and heir of this group is known to be a mentally unstable person - it is said that is because he is the first victim of this Devil himself, and the whole family member is required to "serve" the Devil even after their deaths as retribution to their wealth. Sadly his wife does not fare better - mysteriously jumped to death at a condo in our neighboring country (I guess my countrymen can guess which country I am from hahaha).
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indyfan
July 24, 2023 at 9:50 AM
Welcome to Revenant recaps. Better late than never, right? And wow, the story sounds does indeed sound like the plot for a makjang occult thriller, but also just terrible.
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11 Gikata
July 24, 2023 at 4:39 PM
Sorry for late comment, had a long-awaited date with my pillow))) There were less glaring plot holes - or, rather, plot conveniences - this week, @indyfan , yet they still keep piling up. Sad to see MC die, even if it was expected, but young cop (side eyeing writer hard for giving us two male leads with the same initials, who does that?!) could've react a bit faster seeing his partner acting weird and climbing into the window, esp after being warned that something is WRONG. He's a trained pro for such situations, no? Also, the way investigation concluded it as a suicide so fast because MC was a lonely widower approaching retirement... Ugh. If anything, shouldn't people who worked with him for DECADES know his personality enough to question such a dramatic, traumatizing to his partner and other witnesses exit? Policemen in the drama usually do not lack profiling skills, as proved by young cop guessing ghost's real age. Oh well, I can talk for days about drama's HUGE obsession with suicide...
Other example is the reveal that hellish grandma (epic psycho of the same level as KINGDOM's Queen, if you remember her) finished WJ. Murder itself makes sense, we suspected as much since last week, but his accident being actual accident is hilarious. You'd think she of all people wouldn't wait to silence the witness until he ends up nearly dead on his own accord...
Ghost's death note rules also keep changing every now and then - first it killed second borns in host's family and now it's host's most beloved person/thing somehow? If so, then why none of Prof Gu's beloved ones died during 2 decades he was possessed? Are we to believe he didn't care about his mom, wife and kid enough for ghost to target them? Did he love his job above them all so his payment was that sudden early retirement? No wonder ghost can't touch grandma evil - that lady has zero love cells in her, aside of towards money, perhaps... Still, flashbacks of their partnership behind Yeoms backs are head-scratching. Someone's cannot decide between revenge rampage and "any existence is better that none" as their main goal here. Teens and their flip-flopping))) And don't even let me start with no-ghosts-once-in-a-year day approaching EXACTLY when our lead trio needed it the most *facepalm* Who tricked whom in Ep10 last scene tho?
Emotional and creepy scenes just keep getting better. KTR is fantastic (jumpscares! blind acting!), but boys had their moments too. Funeral and socks got me(((
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indyfan
July 24, 2023 at 10:04 PM
Ah, you didn't let me down. 😀 Those were rather convenient plot points weren't they. And you're right, why didn't the ghost target Prof Gu's loved ones? Or is that SY doesn't have a second-born it can take? Beats me. But teenagers are awfully inconsistent. Is hell being forever tied to your raging hormones?
Still, I really liked these penultimate episodes. Fingers crossed for the finale.
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Gikata
July 24, 2023 at 10:34 PM
Good to know, I worked hard)))
But SY did lost her younger sibling, her mom had a miscarriage. Was that enough for the ghost? Doesn't seem so because HS's mom also experienced one yet apparently was still targeted. I also don't get why ghost waited years before claiming payment from HS's dad (and who was HS's grandpa's beloved? not his wife or son as we can see) while SY was possessed for what, few months, but ghost already plans to make her full orphan? Perhaps we're missing some important detail here - like grandma lying to her son about that too and actually being the one who ordered the ghost to kill her daughter-in-law for opposing to HS becoming the next host. Teens being inconsistent for the sake of it is probably more realistic option tho...
I certainly can agree with that - my teen years were not that bad in comparison to most people's, yet I still loathed them with passion and was extremely happy once they were finally over. Can't imagine existing in such terrible state for 60 years... If I was her, I'd BEG to be exorcised into nothingness asap!
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knewbie
July 25, 2023 at 1:13 AM
The fictional universe of this show is pretty inconsistent in general. The first thing that irritated me was the question of who sees ghosts and when/where. E.g. seems like everyone can see them on reflective surfaces, yet most people never do! And for a show with so many dead people, Hae-sang meets surprisingly few ghosts he personally knows. Why just Woo-jin? Why doesn't he ever meet his parents or his cop pal?
Re: Prof Gu's possession. Well, the guy did seem completely obsessed with his work, to the extent of wanting to acquire a ghost for himself (to save his eyesight, and probably also to prove his theories). I'm not sure the guy really loved his wife and mother that much. Still, he did lose his second child (miscarriage), while San-young was spared cos the ghost needed her.
Btw I get the feeling Woo-jin's "accident" wasn't actually an accident. We still haven't seen enough of his relationship with Hae-sang. I think Woo-jin might have been Hae-sang's best friend while HS was possessed (hence WJ's ghost hanging around for years afterwards), and that grandma merely finished what the ghost started.
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Gikata
July 25, 2023 at 1:55 AM
At first I thought that HS is directly related to shaman given his powers. Turns out he's not and his "third eye" got somehow activated after encountering our ghost/being briefly possessed by it (still unclear, but probably the latter). SY's ability to see/sense ghosts seems to gradually progressing - she didn't see anything at first, then used mirrors to see and now either doesn't need them anymore or is close to that level (aside of rapidly losing her vision overall - what a dark irony). HS mentioned his ability got stronger with time too, so I think that's the key - you have to not just encounter a ghost but get closely affected by it. Whether it works on anyone or only certain people is unknown. We'll see how it goes for young cop...
About lack of familiar ghosts - not all dead people become them, I suppose. Prof Gu was "wandering spirit" forcibly trapped in that village on his way to afterlife, not full-time ghost or he'd appear more than once. Maybe HS's parents and MC just... moved on right away?
Kinda agree, but show keeps stressing how Prof Gu cared for his lost family with that 100% preserved room of theirs and all... Maybe him NOT trying to get them back was what saved them? Like ghost thought they aren't that dear to him then and gave up. Still doesn't explain his mother though.
If WJ's accident was staged, someone did they job poorly. HS wasn't possessed when WJ was round, but now it makes total sense for his ghost to "friendly haunt" HS since it was HS's family that killed him. Was WJ refusing to visit his dad in Yeom residence because he was afraid to meet his murderer? It is possible that hungry ghost attached to WJ made him attempt suicide, that's how it happened to SY's possessed classmate, right? He failed, ended up in hospital and here comes grandma with a pillow. Anyway, (fake) suicide overdose, do we really need so many of them in one drama?
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12 Cecee is done DramaQueening
July 26, 2023 at 3:34 AM
We've certainly lost characters that brought more depth to the story than mum, so well... Does she truly need saving? Perhaps, this is my own unsuspected mummy issues speaking. But I don't really care if mum dies. She's been so far an stubborn and loud obstruction to the plot, and while I accept this is her role in the story, I haven't grown fond of her yet. That being said, I admit this might just be a me problem. So feel free to ignore me here!
On the other hand, grandmother... I mean, yes, please, bring her more to the story. Show me her heartlessness. Show me the evil burning inside her heart. Show me the fear of facing her true self. Show me it all, this is what I want to see!
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13 Pooj
August 20, 2023 at 7:58 AM
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14 Pooj
August 20, 2023 at 9:39 AM
The finding of the objects is very reminiscent of the HORCRUX from Harry Potter
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