Revenant: Episodes 7-8
by lovepark
Our heroes find themselves on diverging paths, and as the past comes to light, it drives a wedge between them. Unable to trust or confide in each other, they face the spirit on their own, but the weight of their forebears’ sins proves too much to carry. As they wrestle with their own demons and doubts, our heroes must make a choice before the darkness in their hearts consumes them.
EPISODES 7-8
San-young and Hae-sang have split, and the division between them only grows wider as they learn more about the evil spirit and its origin. Though they follow different trails, all clues point to the same horrifying conclusion, but before we dive deeper into this secret, a bit more context.
With guidance from the evil spirit and an unlikely partnership with Hong-sae, San-young digs deeper into the student hungry ghost Kim Woo-jin. This leads her to Hae-sang’s family and their conglomerate Junghyeon Capital, nicknamed samdocheon (the river between our world and the next). As she puts the pieces together, San-young suddenly loses her vision, and the past begins overlapping with the present.
At the same time, Hae-sang learns that he had a younger sibling who died, continuing the pattern of sacrificed second-borns. With Mun-chun’s help, he investigates the shaman who created the juvenile ghost and learns from her descendant that she received a large sum of money for the heinous act… from Junghyeon Corporation. Though he struggles to accept it at first, Hae-sang confirms his fears that his family was involved and confronts his grandmother.
1958. With their company facing troubles, Hae-sang’s grandparents took drastic measures and hired a shaman to make a juvenile ghost. Accepting the condition that this evil spirit would curse them for generations, they watched as the girl died for their greed, and in the midst of this gruesome scene, Hae-sang’s grandmother smiled.
In the present, Grandmother shows no remorse for her actions and seethes at Hae-sang for his impudence. She reminds him that he lives in luxury thanks to their decision all those years ago, and if it wasn’t for his mother stopping the spirit from possessing him next, they would have been even richer. Her admission sends Hae-sang reeling from the house, and out in the storm, he stumbles across San-young.
While Hae-sang learned the truth from his grandmother, San-young experienced the same event through the spirit and followed her to this house. She screams in agony as the memory overtakes her, and when she comes face-to-face with the grandson of those villains, she burns with rage: “After horribly killing that young child to create a juvenile ghost, did you enjoy living in a nice house and shamelessly spending your money?”
Unable to deny her accusations, Hae-sang wanders aimlessly with no place to call his own and ends up on a bridge where Woo-jin joins him. The latter realizes that the secret is out, and we flashback to the night he learned something he should not have: Gang-mo sought out Grandmother for a way to make a juvenile ghost.
Hae-sang asks his dead friend if he had fun watching him play the fool and tosses away his material possessions. Sensing his emotions, spirits start gathering around him, but Hae-sang is too absorbed in his own self-loathing to notice. When his warnings fail, Woo-jin steps in to block the spirits, and Hae-sang finally comes to his senses as his friend disappears over the edge. He shouts for Woo-jin, but his friend is gone, leaving Hae-sang all alone in this world.
With a desperate urgency, Hae-sang vows to get rid of the evil spirit that his father and grandfather made, and uses his own blood to write over a jangseung. However, his attempt seems to have failed, and the nearby villagers find his unconscious body on the ground.
Returning to her grandma’s house, San-young tells the ghost that she will not live like those people, but the spirit says that she will want her, too, just like her dad. Seeking out her dad’s old ophthalmologist, San-young learns why Gang-mo was possessed, and for the first time, she feels the temptation: she inherited a rare case of optic atrophy.
Hiding her condition, San-young makes amends with her mom and friend before continuing her quest. However, her motivations are unclear this time around, since San-young admits to the spirit that she wants her and asks what she wants. While she searches for the temple that the spirit points her to, the village head calls her to come help Hae-sang.
By the time San-young arrives, Hae-sang is unresponsive, and a spirit of darkness threatens to crush him. Remembering what he once told her, San-young drives him east to keep the spirit at bay, but the darkness grows more menacing as the night deepens. All the while, Hae-sang remains trapped in his own mind and runs through the halls of the university with dead bodies surrounding him.
With the spirit of darkness gaining on them, San-young pulls the car off the main road and drags Hae-sang’s limp body down a hill. Unable to carry him on her own, she falls and almost loses her grip on his hand when, suddenly, he reaches out to her, and the sunlight hits them.
Safe from the spirit, they sit on the cliff and take this moment to share their thoughts. San-young tells Hae-sang that she knows logically that he is not to blame, but it was not until she saw the ghosts on the drive here that she realized that he may have been atoning for his family’s sins this entire time. He also admits to her that he wanted to die, but when he was trapped inside the illusion, he only thought about living. Thanks to her taking his hand, he was able to survive.
Clearing the air, the pair team up again, and with Hae-sang’s help, they easily locate the temple from the photo. This leads them to the location of another suicide and the third object Gang-mo buried. While San-young wonders why their parents failed to stop the spirit, Hae-sang thinks they should keep searching and contacts Mun-chun.
Also having reconciled, Mun-chun and Hong-sae are busy working on the case, and with their combined efforts, they find a string of similar suicides starting from Mok-dan’s death. Using his connections, Mun-chun gets ahold of an important piece of evidence, but his discovery puts him in danger. San-young feels the spirit move, and they warn Mun-chun to stay inside and not open the door for anyone but them.
Their bizarre request spooks Mun-chun, and he jumps when Hong-sae walks into the office — a false alarm. However, seconds later, they hear another knock. Mun-chun remains on edge, but then, they hear Hae-sang’s voice from the other side. Hong-sae goes to let him in, but to his bewilderment, San-young stares up at him with a smirk. “You opened the door.”
Nooooo! I can’t even blame Mun-chun for this one since Hae-sang gave him such terrible instructions, but I can’t fault Hae-sang either since he never heard the spirit impersonate anyone before. As a viewer, I know the spirit’s tricks which heightens the tension in the final scene, but sadly, none of the characters do which means I’m left screaming at them to stop while knowing that they will not. The spirit’s target is most likely Mun-chun since Hong-sae poses less of a threat, and narratively, it would be more impactful for the disbelieving officer to witness the supernatural firsthand. It would be best if neither of them died (maybe they can save each other), but I doubt the spirit will be so easily thwarted.
The big reveal this week was about Hae-sang’s grandmother, and the shock from this secret came more from the depth of her depravity than any sort of twist. The show hinted at her involvement from the moment she was introduced, but I was still taken aback by her callous attitude and unceasing greed. Her husband and son died — most likely due to the possession given their early deaths — but her only regret is that Hae-sang didn’t follow the same path to hell as them. She’s evil (and definitely the worst TV grandma I’ve seen in a while), but interestingly, she seems less dangerous than the spirit. She lives in fear, and from the way she clings to superstitions and holes herself inside her house on rainy nights, it seems she knows that the spirit may be after her.
In contrast, Hae-sang’s reaction to his family’s secret was gut-wrenching, especially because the show gradually built up to this watershed moment and pushed him off the edge with no safety net. From the beginnings of his characterization, Hae-sang was a rich grandson — his house, his car, his clothes, and even his job all proclaim his privilege. Even if being part of the one percent never made him happy, his grandmother is right; he never had to experience the struggles of poverty because of her. Thus, when he learns the family secret, he essentially loses a part of his identity, no matter how much he tries to distance himself from it. Nothing he owns is his, and even his only friend disappears to save him much like his mother. It’s no wonder that Hae-sang recklessly moves ahead to stop the spirit because he has no tether to this world besides his goal to right his family’s wrongs.
The use of the spirit of darkness to depict Hae-sang’s emptiness was frightening and fascinating. It’s unclear how much of his illusions were manifested from his guilt versus actual memories. Did he see himself when he opened the door or does he imagine himself there now after knowing what his mother did for him? I also really liked how this event led to our protagonists’ reconciliation because it gave them both a chance to gain a new perspective on life and understand each other better. San-young learned that Hae-sang has been suffering for his family’s crime his entire life and some scars aren’t outwardly visible. For Hae-sang, he saw that he isn’t alone in this world after all, and San-young, who’s practically a stranger to him, risked her life to save him because he deserves to be happy, too.
As always, the show answers one major question which leads to another. Right now, the next big conundrum is why Gang-mo and Hae-sang’s mother failed to stop the spirit if they knew how to suppress it. From Mun-chun and Hong-sae’s investigation, it seems there were never enough deaths to bury all five objects (Hae-sang’s grandfather and father have four ghost-related deaths associated with them as does Gang-mo). Does this mean the spirit switches host after a set number of murders? Also, why is the spirit guiding them to the objects if they are needed to defeat it? Everything feels like a trap, but I can’t quite grasp what makes me feel so uneasy because the biggest question still remains: what does the spirit want?
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1 jillian
July 16, 2023 at 10:30 AM
What struck me the most is what Mun chun was saying as he was reading those latest documents. If LM was not the second child then who was? Is that the reason Gangmo and HS's mom failed.
But I do hope that cliffhanger will not lead to anothe death.. I learned to like our police duo.
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FiyaShady
July 16, 2023 at 11:49 AM
Me too. Was saying "don't ever open the door" while watching it 😅😅😅.
Love both duos.
I noticed this is only 12 eps series? So, we left with 4 more eps then?
In the end, so many questions still unanswered by now 😓.
P/S: does this drama written by new writer? If yes, (s)he did great job by far for believable storyline and keeps me anticipated every week.
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jillian
July 16, 2023 at 12:53 PM
Same! Then I was mentally scolding Hong Sae for opening the door!
Yup 4 episodes left. Its written by Kim Eun Hee, writer of Signal, Kingdom and Jirisan. She wrote this show very well (compared to Jirisan).
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indyfan
July 16, 2023 at 8:32 PM
It is a truth universally acknowledged that in horror shows, characters will open doors they shouldn't, explore strange noises in the dark, go down the basement of abandoned mansions and open a coffin...oh wait, that's Heartbeat.
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jillian
July 16, 2023 at 8:49 PM
Yes they are never cautious in horror shows. Way to insert Heartbeat in a convo. HB is not really a horror show if you think about it. That bumbling vampire is a softie.
indyfan
July 16, 2023 at 9:17 PM
@jillian LOL. It's true, I have Heartbeat in my...heart. (I also like to slip in a little P&P where I can :).
But yeah, I remember reading outraged comments. Why would the FL go down the basement? Why? Because, it's genre. Tho absolutely, Heartbeat is about as fluffy-wuffy as a vampire show can get.
Meanwhile, outside of DB, I've been hearing complaints Revenant isn't horrific enough. 🤷🏽♀️
jillian
July 16, 2023 at 10:38 PM
Revenant need not be that horrific. It has a solid story. Those complaining need to understand its a 12 episode kdrama and not a 2 hour movie. Revenant is great as it is.
jillian
July 16, 2023 at 10:44 PM
@indyfan I admit I couldnt understand at first why FL would open a coffin that is in a basement of an old mansion alone! But now I don't care. If she will go back in time and tasked to do it again, I will cheer her on. Save Woo Hyul from his slumber!
Love KDrama
July 18, 2023 at 12:13 PM
Kim Eun Hee is a top writer. A lot of actors want to work with her. She is known for Phantom, Signal, Kingdom, Jirisam
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asterell
July 16, 2023 at 1:27 PM
Maybe lee mok dan is the name of the second born, and Munchun found out that the girl who went missing wasn't LMD? Or like lovepark said, the spirit only committed 4 murders each possession, so the locations of the buried objects included "overlaps". Still, it's hard to know why the evil spirit would try to kill Munchun then, or why the spirit has kept the grandma alive.
I wonder if the second born tricked the spirit into taking her place when they were children, so she's the final target.
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jillian
July 16, 2023 at 1:43 PM
I have to rewatch the episode to figure out those overlaps. HS's grandma's life may still be part of the ghost's endgame.
The previous deaths were related to the desires of whomever it possessed but maybe they need to look for more similar deaths that can be tied to the actual ghost.
The only reason why the evil spirit will try to harm either cop is because of what they know. So Munchun saying that at the time so the info may lead HS and SY closer to knowing the real identity of the evil spirit. So something like this if the spirit does end up harming MC since its not upon the desire of SY.
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jillian
July 16, 2023 at 1:45 PM
About the real second born, its possible the spirit was tricked. But I wonder why the villagers didnt know LM is not the second born.
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Love KDrama
July 18, 2023 at 12:14 PM
When they are identical twins difficult to know
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sakuradaydream
July 16, 2023 at 7:40 PM
I got a shock from that too and had to take a minute for it to register. If she was not the second born would that mean the ritual back then actually wasn't successful? Did they evoke or create something else entirely since it wasnt the second born? If she was not the second born, which one was she & why did the second borns still keep dying? GAH
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jillian
July 16, 2023 at 8:45 PM
Yes the ritual wasnt successful and maybe because they didnt correctly identify the spirit. There is no indication of they created another problem though.
The ghost may just be leading them around on a wild goose chase since it has a different agenda.
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2 Nefret
July 16, 2023 at 10:31 AM
The last scene was indeed creepy. And I was scared for the first time when Hong-sae entered the office, as I had expected the ghost.
I'm afraid that the ghost is out to get Mun-chun and that he won't be able to be saved. Sadly, that will be the moment when Hong-sae will believe San-young and Hae-sang.
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indyfan
July 16, 2023 at 8:37 PM
I was both deliciously creeped and curious by the end of the scene. It'd be sad indeed if it gets Mun-chun, but it makes sense for the drama to do that. So will give the show points for plot development and cliffhanger.
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3 Kafiyah Bello
July 16, 2023 at 11:33 AM
At least they are finally talking. I was like don't open the door, don't open the door, they can just walk in, even if it is locked. SIGH. I really hope neither of the cops die, but I'm not hopeful.
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4 asterell
July 16, 2023 at 1:05 PM
This show is just getting better and better.
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5 Gikata
July 16, 2023 at 1:17 PM
When you stare into abyss long enough... (c)
Honestly, I'm a bit underwhelmed by writing this week - what's up with SY's plot convenient illness that NEVER manifested itself before? It wouldn't take much effort to place hints before and make her ignore the symptoms thinking it was side effect of possession, but nope, we needed her sick right there, logic be damned! Also, her dad apparently lived 2 decades with demon inside to cure himself, even accepted death of his another child as a payment, but then - again with zero explanation of such change of heart - decided to seal the ghost away? Why now?
Other characters suffer from "just because" level of motivation too - HS's hellish grandma is a psycho to laugh at the sight of innocent child bleeding to death or what? Sheesh, woman, eat salt yourself, YOU are the evil one here! That's whom dumb ghost should visit instead of running around forcing random people to hang themselves. Had a laugh at grandpa's scenes - they've found actor who looks like OJS and gave both the same deadpan expression, hilarious))) Woojin is another flat character - so much greed and why? He seemed far from poverty even before entering Yeom mansion. Right, his mom died, that's an excuse we've given. And then he re-dies protecting HS despite their "friendship" never being explored enough to make it convincing...
Misplaced blame is a big theme here, I guess. Bitchy old village lady can choke - her daughter was dead BEFORE HS banished her, not to mention innocent villagers who died back then. HS did unknowingly benefit from his family's sins, but what about directly responsible people? Why couldn't ghost do something to them, at least in those 20+ YEARS it possessed Prof Gu and thus wasn't tied to Yeom family by magic anymore? Or it still is since they ordered the ritual? Is that why HS was never targeted despite his investigation - his blood protects him from ghost's rage?
So Mokdan wasn't the second child, hmm... Was she the third one? Both SY and HS's siblings died in womb. If the actual second kid died before being born and MD's family hid the fact, deceiving shaman for payment... That'd mess up ritual, creating something other than yeommae? Or was the mistake found out and another child killed? Then there are indeed 2 ghosts in there, and our amateur exorcists need to start anew and search for another name. Munchun better not to die (low hopes tho), I like him((( Running towards sunrise scene was good, so did HS's nightmare and SY seeing ghost's flashbacks.
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indyfan
July 16, 2023 at 9:02 PM
I always have questions after watching this show, but till now I've been fully immersed. This time tho I did pause in the middle a few times when it didn't sit right.
I really liked how SY relived the ghost's experience rather it being shown as a flashback to viewers. It made her breakdown feel earned. But that illness really did feel like a deus ex machina plot point and it was so easily solvable as you suggested. Same for the poor development of the hungry ghost and one-note grandma. At least they've made SY a little gray. That was interesting. KTR is doing such a great job. I wish OJS was a little less flat, at least during the revelation, a few micro-expressions at least, so I felt more for him.
Anyhow's adding that info about the second child and the detective's fate, well done. I'm very curious about what'll happen next. I'm hoping the show will answer some of your other questions. Despite the critique, it's still a really good show (if we were to question the plot of some of the other on-air shows 🤣).
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Gikata
July 16, 2023 at 10:20 PM
Sudden hereditary blindness progressing from zero to 70 out of 100 in one day was ridiculous. Even lazier writing than that one episode with a couple locking up and abusing their daughter for no reason than providing "case of the week" and making leads begrudgingly team up. I'd say characterization was never writer's strong feat, but she's smart (or lucky) enough to always get good actors for her dramas that make their roles work anyway. Yet here it often glaringly obvious despite all cast's efforts. Which would've been fine since it's a story-driven drama, but I'd still do with less characters if many of them ended up THIS shallow. It's not like I've asking too much, just flesh out all of them a little more to give that "real person" feel... But no, we'd rather have young cop slowly blink in SKEPTICISM for -nth time than bother with minor things like logic and reason. Maybe that's his role in this show - to distract us from plot holes with his charms?)))
I'm willing to forgive this drama for many things, including all points mentioned above, because everything other than writing is nearly perfect, but they'd better keep it at least a bit consistent until the end. Few more versions of TRUE (this time for sure, trust me bro!) origins of hairy ghost and I'll lose my patience.
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6 panshel
July 16, 2023 at 5:19 PM
Noooo!! I don't want Mun-chun to die! These people need to stay on the phone with each other, so Hae-sang could say, "It's not me!" Why did Hae-sang hang up!? When Mun-chun told Hong-sae to lock the door and not open it, I was screaming, "Tell him the reason!" I've always wondered why Kim Won-hae was not listed as a lead nor on the poster when our four main characters were equally important. Don't tell me that it's because the show kills him off.
I'm not surprised that Hae-sang's grandparents killed a little girl; I'm only surprised that it worked. That Choi Man-wol's shamanism was that powerful to make their company rich and successful. If sacrificing a young girl can make someone rich, I feel like more people would've done it because rich people always want to be richer.
I gasped when Hae-sang's grandmother told San-young's dad, "I'll buy you a house." Is San-young's grandmother's house from her? That would make San-young a hypocrite when she yelled at Hae-sang if he was happy living in a nice house.
But when young Hae-sang opened the door for the evil spirit who killed his mother, he saw that the spirit was himself. Just like San-young's dad's spirit was himself. Which made me confused why the spirit who killed Taejang Construction's CEO was Hae-sang's father Yeom Jae-woo.
I thought that Hae-sang's mother died because the second born must die.
I'm mostly watching this drama to see when Hong-sae is going to be a believer.
When the spirits threw Woo-jin from the bridge and Hae-sang cried, I said, "I'm sorry, what? But he was already dead."
A big thanks for recapping, @lovepark!
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indyfan
July 16, 2023 at 8:26 PM
> When the spirits threw Woo-jin from the bridge and Hae-sang cried, I said, "I'm sorry, what? But he was already dead."
Yes! That moment was somewhat marred by my confusion (and also some faulty character development as @gikata mentioned). Does ghost suicide mean it is no longer trapped in the earthly realm? Like, it's a jump into the metaphorical river samdocheon rather than the literal one below? Some of the mythology is confusing.
Also, I didn't love how he just toppled over the bridge. A bit cartoony, or rushed at least.
But I guess he was the only friend (frenemy?) HS had.
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Autumn
August 10, 2023 at 8:48 AM
First of all, we do not know if the house was from Han-sang's grandmother, and even if it was, San-young did not know that. Secondly, I think of the 2 leads, Han-Sang is the more callous one, as he simply regarded San-young a liability and asked her not to participate further when she told him she was tempted when she was buying all those clothes and other things. At that time, it is obvious San-young was in need of help and guidance at that time and he simply walked away, while San-young did her best to save him at her own risk.
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7 sakuradaydream
July 16, 2023 at 6:48 PM
I don't think I'll ever shut up about how amazing this series is. I could not take my eyes off the screen for a second. More people need to watch this series. This series needs to be studied or something omg
This weekend's eps were so entertaining and yet another brilliant performance from our leads. I was not expecting the countless revelations & twists from these eps! I really thought they would drag it on a little more.
Tae-ri did an excellent job during the scene where San-young found out the truth & Jung-se nailed it of course, with Hae-seong just losing all will to live. But that cliffhanger BROOOO. man if mun-chun goes I would be SO bummed. All that screentime makes more sense now :')))
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8 captainlaika
July 16, 2023 at 9:35 PM
I spent far too much of these episodes thinking the possession actually caused the sudden eye atrophy thing, oops. Thank you for the recap lovepark, it helped clear that up for me! Like others have said, I wish they'd have introduced that more gradually and not had it clear up so quick.
Also accepting a murderous ghost into your life seems a bit excessive in exchange for 20/20 vision? Is that just me? It seems hypocritical too, with San-young's rage at Hae-sang and his family's involvement in creating the ghost. I want to assume she's trying to trick the evil spirit or something
The writing was a little off for me in these episodes compared to weeks previous, but Kim Tae-ri is really killing it. And what a cliffhanger!
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jillian
July 16, 2023 at 10:50 PM
It is excessive in exchange for good vision. I agree hypocritical too. San young must have something up her sleeve and I want that to be true. I suppose that is the ghost's way to force the possessed into agreeing for it to take over.
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indyfan
July 17, 2023 at 1:50 AM
As someone living with a high risk of blindness (an important distinction, not perfect vision but blindness), that question hit too close to home! And I decided, no thanks. Mostly cos I'm total wuss despite enjoying horror on screen.
With both of you in the hypocrisy in SY's reaction. If the son should pay for the sins of his father (or grandparents I guess), what does the daughter owe? However, I think in that moment SY had just lived through the murder of the girl as if it was happening to her. It might have been an initial visceral reaction.
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captainlaika
July 17, 2023 at 10:26 AM
Fair point, I was over-exaggerating! I hope I didn't end up hurting you and I apologize if I did. I don't have the same risks but I'd like to think I'd arrive at the same decision... also because I am a total wuss too lol
I could be convinced somebody else was though? I think that's some of the disappointment I was trying to convey. Besides the emotional shock and loss of a sense of autonomy with vision loss, there'd be a real big impact to San-young's daily life and ability to drive. I don't know the state of disability assistance in South Korea, but I imagine it's always a bureaucratic nightmare to get help, either financially or with assistive devices. Setting aside the potential for ableism with this plotline, there could be a real weight to the decision of having the evil spirit in your life in exchange for a cure! But the show moved so fast past any potential fallout or emotional impact that it just felt flat. Hence my hope there's some sort of double bluff going on!
And definitely, the initial reaction San-young had was all visceral (again, Kim Tae-ri doing great work), and I think she more or less says in the cliff scene that her lingering resentment is more emotional than logical; she knows it's not his fault but she still can't forgive him. So I don't mean to talk about San-young's hypocrisy as a criticism, just as an interesting character note. Or potentially it's a bit of conflicting information to support my conspiracy theory that San-young is trying to trick more information out of the evil spirit haha ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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indyfan
July 17, 2023 at 8:56 PM
Not at all. All good. This is so far removed from reality, you can't take it seriously. I agree, they both dropped in the vision loss abruptly, nor let it play it out so we understood the weight of it on her.
Let's hope she has an ace up her sleeve. Tho I don't mind gray characters. She's so much more interesting if she is indeed tempted (tho again, show us *why* she might be tempted).
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9 Lostpanda is celebrating My Ajusshi 💔
July 17, 2023 at 2:07 PM
Who else here was jumping up and down when Gu San-Yeong (Kim Tae-Ri) and Lee Hong-Sae (Hong Kyung) were standing outside the International Fencing Academy just chatting away. I took a screenshot but I dunno how to attach one here. Was that intentional or not - we'll never know.
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10 Jingbee
July 17, 2023 at 7:45 PM
The strength of this show (and the reason it is a great watch) is that it does not use cheap jump scare tactics, nor gore in order to heighten the mystery and the fear. The story and the folklore intertwined with it are scary enough. I also wish that Munchun gets spared but I will not be surprised if he does not - the evil spirit here is formidable and strong. The acting continues to be top notch. So far, the show is delivering.
Loveable Halmeoni in Start-Up , is Annoying Halmeoni in UTQU, is Truly Scary Halmeoni here. The range is phenomenal =)
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