See You in My 19th Life: Episodes 3-4
by DaebakGrits
While romance is still at the forefront of our story, our webtoon-turned-drama dives deeper into the theme of loss. Our hero is still haunted daily by the memory of his childhood friend and the trauma-inducing car accident that took her from him, but our leading lady has also lost her share of loved ones during the span of her many lifetimes. But for her, the most painful connections are to those who are still alive and around to miss her.
EPISODES 3-4
Oh, my heart! This week, See You in My 19th Life came at me with several tear-jerking moments that I was not prepared for — not even with my prior knowledge of the webtoon story. Some things just hit deeper when every emotion is captured by talented actors and accompanied by a thematically appropriate soundtrack that drives home the intensity of the moment, you know? And first up on the list of “Scenes That Made DaebakGrits Ugly Cry into Her Morning Coffee,” is the continuation of last week’s solemn ending.
Okay, maybe the graveside scene wasn’t as much of a tearjerker the second time around, but it was still a pivotal moment for Ji-eum that carried a lot of weight for her character. Prior to watching Seo-ha visit Ju-won’s grave, she’d had a mostly self-centered and seemingly jaded outlook as far as her past lives were concerned. But now she understands that Ju-won’s death — which, for her, was just the end of yet another life in a long string of lives she remembers — was something he continues to grieve.
Ji-eum now finds herself in the position of wanting to comfort Seo-ha but needing to feign ignorance of their shared past. She offers up a few generic words of wisdom, and when they seem to lighten Seo-ha’s mood slightly, she proceeds with her usual tried-and-true method of flirtation as an additional means of distraction. Seo-ha’s sadness slowly gives way to amused annoyance, and the dark cloud hanging over him disappears — until a close encounter with another Truck of Doom triggers his PTSD. He bails out of his seat as a panic attack hits, and Ji-eum springs into action, giving him a bag to breathe in while she gently pats his back. I’m right there with Ji-eum, wanting to hug him and protect him from all the trauma the writer has heaped on his shoulders.
The time at Ju-won’s grave has Ji-eum looking at Ae-gyeong a bit differently. As her uncle Jung-ho, Ji-eum had thought she was comforting little Ae-gyeong with the knowledge that she’d be reborn and would come and protect her again in the future. But, sadly, that promise didn’t have much weight or significance for young Ae-gyeong who lost her beloved uncle and suddenly found herself alone and on her own in the world. Ji-eum feels guilty for not having realized how much Ae-gyeong must have gone through after her uncle died, but that part of Ae-gyeong’s life is so far in her past that it no longer troubles her. Even so, Ji-eum hugs and comforts Ae-gyeong like a mother — or uncle — would comfort a child, placing the seated Ae-gyeong’s head against the softness of her stomach and wrapping her arms protectively around her. (Oof! The feels!)
The moment ends, however, when Ae-gyeong gently reminds Ji-eum that if today is Ju-won’s death anniversary, then that means it’s also Seo-ha’s birthday, which just adds a whole new layer of angst to the situation. Cue: a montage of Seo-ha unhappily celebrating his birthday and remembering Ju-won’s death every time he blows out his birthday candles.
And while most people would agree, given the circumstances, that this is probably the absolute worst day to dole out a love confession, Ji-eum races — in the rain for maximum romantic cliche — to Seo-ha’s house. She explains that she couldn’t let his birthday pass without telling him that she likes him — like, like likes him.
Her love confession stems from a promise she made in her previous life. Seo-ha had asked Ju-won if she liked him, and she had told him she would give her answer on his birthday, which — well, you know. Although Ji-eum’s intentions were pure, once again her insider knowledge prevents her from seeing the inappropriateness of her actions while living as Ji-eum. As Seo-ha begins his polite rejection, the door to his house opens, and there’s Cho-won. It’s at this moment that Ji-eum seems to realize that her secret knowledge of Seo-ha’s past does not give her a magical insight into his current private life.
Ji-eum lingers outside Seo-ha’s house for Cho-won to leave, and she doesn’t have to wait long because Seo-ha kicked Cho-won out after sullenly reminding her that he doesn’t want to celebrate his birthday. Face to face again with her sister from a past life, the always blunt and to-the-point Ji-eum asks Cho-won if she likes Seo-ha, and Cho-won counters with: “And what if I do?”
But, of course, our story cuts to the next business day before we find out Ji-eum’s response, and when Seo-ha sees Ji-eum in the parking garage, his mind immediately goes to her confession from the night before. His thoughts are all over his face, and Ji-eum slips into her usual flirtatious habits to catch him off guard but — more importantly — keep him thinking about her. His mood, which seemed lighter after his banter with Ji-eum, turns dark again when Cho-won arrives at the office. Seo-ha, not knowing she submitted a portfolio under a pseudonym, was impressed by her work but not pleased to learn real identity.
Seo-ha’s chilly demeanor — not to mention the loud argument he has with Do-yoon — saddens Cho-won, and Ji-eum follows her out of the office and invites her to dinner. Over drinks, Ji-eum gazes lovingly at her past-life sister and is relieved to learn that Cho-won is not her competition for Seo-ha’s heart. No, Cho-won is smitten with Do-yoon, and it was love at first sight — ever since Seo-ha passed an umbrella to his classmate Do-yoon and asked him to give it to the middle school girl waiting in rain for him outside their school. Cho-won warns Ji-eum, though, that while she may not be her competition, she has a more formidable advisory: Ju-won, Seo-ha’s first love.
The night ends with Ji-eum escorting the very inebriated Cho-won to her parents’ house, and from afar, Ji-eum watches Cho-won’s mother CHO YOO-SUN (Kang Myung-joo) answer the door. Seeing her mother from her 18th life is emotional for Ji-eum, and the loss and longing are so strong that she loses sight of reality as she imagines what would happen if Yoo-sun recognized her as Ju-won’s reincarnation. As the fantasy gave way to the reality of Ji-eum crying and hugging herself in the street outside her former family’s home, my heart crumbled, and it’s at this point — in case y’all were wondering — that my coffee started to taste salty from all my tears.
And if her present pain isn’t tear-jerking enough for you, then brace yourselves. We also get flashbacks to Ji-eum’s third life. After dying as an infant daughter to a wealthy family in her second life, she was reborn as a poor, low class boy. When she (as the boy) regained her memories, she immediately sought out her mother from her previous life who had lovingly combed her hair, but Ji-eum was rejected. Her mother didn’t recognize her, and the memory still haunts Ji-eum and makes her hesitant to reveal anything to her loved ones from her 18th life.
Ji-eum’s approach to Seo-ha, however, is noticeably bolder and a bit more reckless, as if she can’t quite help herself when it comes to him. So when he catches her crying outside her former childhood home, she slips up and calls him by his name — in a way that instinctively makes him think of Ju-won.
The tables turn, and Seo-ha is now the one who offers comfort. He humors Ji-eum’s desire for convenience store ramyeon in order to cheer her up. Ji-eum rebounds quickly from her earlier melancholy, and resumes her usual flirtations, joking with Seo-ha that he is becoming her biggest fan and dropping another small hint about reincarnation that — this time — sticks with Seo-ha. But just as Seo-ha is being to piece together the puzzle pieces that Ji-eum has been handing out, Ji-eum decides to pull back.
Ae-gyeong accuses her of being afraid — and after seeing memories of her 3rd life, that is probably partially true — but Ji-eum has another logical reason for not wanting to tell Seo-ha she’s Ju-won. She wants him to heal from the trauma of Ju-won’s death, and she senses she should do that as Ji-eum — not Ju-won. From a viewer standpoint, I can’t wait for the moment he realizes Ji-eum is Ju-won, but from the perspective of an armchair therapist, I don’t think Ji-eum is entirely wrong for second-guessing whether the truth will be beneficial for his mental health long term.
Although Seo-ha is slow to figure out the truth, Cho-won has been struck by a sense of familiarity that she can’t shake. During the drunken ride home in the back of the taxi, the way Ji-eum stroked her hair reminded her of her older sister. When Cho-won gets the opportunity to see Ji-eum the next day, she asks some probing questions, seemingly trying to figure out if her crazy theory holds any water. The questions unnerve Ji-eum enough that she knocks over Cho-won’s tea cups, and Seo-ha rushes to her side when he hears the noise.
What follows is another cute scene between the two of them, but what makes this one special is Ji-eum’s proclamation that — going forward — she will only ask him out three more times. And if he rejects her all three times, then she will officially give up on her pursuit of him. Although Seo-ha is quick to say he’ll save her the trouble of having to ask three times, I’m not buying it. Maybe I’m reading too much into his microexpressions — or prior knowledge of the webtoon — but I sense a bit of disappointment in him. Boy, you know you like the attention!
Seo-ha isn’t the only one who appears to be in denial about his feelings. Do-yoon may have turned down Cho-won when she asked to go on a date with him, but the clenched fist he hid under the table is very telling. He’s a bit of a mystery at this point, but despite his regular meetings with Seo-ha’s father — which a passing comment suggests Seo-ha is aware of — Do-yoon’s loyalty appears to align with Seo-ha even if he doesn’t seem wholly comfortable with the level of friendship and familiarity that Seo-ha is offering.
The next time Seo-ho and Ji-eum see each other, it’s purely by chance. Ji-eum is being chased down the street by her scumbag brother BAN DONG-WOO (Moon Dong-hyuk), who’s decided to hit up Ji-eum — literally — for money. Seo-ho sees the commotion and decides to interfere, but he takes a punch to the face for his troubles. Ji-eum, who had been disappointingly passive prior to all this — finally goes on the offensive when she sees Seo-ha’s wounded face.
Dong-woo scampers away, but not without threatening her one last time. Ji-eum is forced to admit to Seo-ha that she’s related to the waste of oxygen who just ran off, and in another rare moment of vulnerability, she worries that he now assumes she only approached him for his money. Thankfully, he has the sense to acknowledge that her unconventional methods of wooing him are not aligned with the typical gold-digging tactics. He then invites Ji-eum out for dinner and soju, and Ji-eum drinks him under the table, which is not surprising considering Ae-gyeong’s let her drink soju since she was eight-years-old. (I’m honestly a little bit concerned about Ji-eum’s liver at this point, but at least she has money-hungry relatives that might sell her a new one, amirite?)
After dinner, Seo-ha and Ji-eum find a spot along Cheonggyecheon, and it’s here that drunk Seo-ha is struck, once again, by Ji-eum’s familiar mannerisms. Maybe it’s the familiarity or maybe it’s the soju — or a combination of the two — but in this moment Seo-ha opens up to Ji-eum about Ju-won’s death in a way that triggers more of my ugly tears.
The part that struck me most about this scene was the heart-wrenching way he described being trapped in the car’s wreckage, feeling Ju-won’s body grow cold on top of him while he waited for the emergency crew to extract them from the car. Although the trauma left him with an aversion to physical touch, he curls onto Ji-eum’s shoulder and allows her to wrap her arms around him in comfort.
Seo-ha passes out, and Ji-eum struggles to carry him home. The unexpectedly humorous rickshaw scene did wonders to lighten the mood, but unfortunately for Ji-eum, it wasn’t an effective means of carting Seo-ha’s dead weight around. She calls Cho-won for reinforcements, and together they put him in the front seat of Cho-won’s car, where he will be more comfortable should he wake up. Ji-eum reveals some of the extent of Seo-ha’s trauma to Cho-won, and Cho-won reacts as though she’s never contemplated how the accident might have affected him. (I’m just spitballin’ here, Cho-won, but maybe some of this also factors into why he’s been trying so hard to avoid you?)
After they arrive at Seo-ha’s house, Cho-won calls Do-yoon for the passcode. It’s 0423, Seo-ha’s birthday and Ju-won’s death date — oof. Which means, every time he entered his house, he thought of Ju-won — double oof. But that’s not the last of the emotional groin kicks, folks, because as Cho-won and Ji-eum put Seo-ha in bed, an unconscious Seo-ha grabs Ji-eum’s hand as she stands to walk away. “Don’t go, Ju-won,” he cries in his sleep, prompting me to get all misty-eyed, too.
When Cho-won said Ji-eum would have to fight the ghost of her sister for Seo-ha’s affections, it was a bigger battle than even she knew. I’ve got to say, I don’t always approve of Ji-eum’s methods, but in this fictional setting with this fictional context, I say, “Ji-eum, you be that wrecking ball!” Tear down those walls! Keep pushing him out of his comfort zone! This boy needs to stop acting like he died with Ju-won so he can start living again.
I may have been expecting and hoping for a little more comedy than what we saw this week, but I’m not complaining. These latest episodes were thoughtful and poignant, and while Seo-ha’s angst may be laid on a little thick, Ji-eum’s journey was extremely moving in contrast. I sincerely hope the drama doesn’t lose sight of this sincerity as it progresses, but it feels like the story is going to take another turn. Two new (and mysterious) side characters have been introduced in passing, and lest we forget, Ji-eum also ominously suggested that the quick turnaround between her 18th and 19th life might have been because she was — drumroll please — murdered.
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Tags: Ahn Bo-hyun, Ahn Dong-goo, Cha Chung-hwa, Ha Yoon-kyung, Lee Bo-young, See You in My 19th Life, Shin Hye-sun
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1 Lord Cobol (Kdramas, like water, flow downhill)
June 26, 2023 at 10:31 PM
So did rickshaw guy get his cart back?
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Reply1988 -❣️Mother Bean❣️
June 26, 2023 at 10:43 PM
Yes poor old man needs it for his side income. I have always wondered about that role in society as some countries had a glass bottle payback scheme but cardboard collection was a new one on me. It doesn’t make sense when they recycle cardboard so there are bins to put them in who are the people who leave them lying around.
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indyfan
June 26, 2023 at 10:55 PM
I dunno about SK, but the large ones are often too big to fit in the recycling bins so you flatten and tie them, and leave them on the side for pickup. I guess there's a market for them in SK as with plastics?
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Reply1988 -❣️Mother Bean❣️
June 26, 2023 at 11:17 PM
I was assuming businesses have bigger bins and that the ones that are thin cardboard can be folded down to fit the bins. But it makes sense to tie and leave for pick up I just didn’t expect pick up to be a man with a barrow.
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SummerMoon
June 26, 2023 at 11:56 PM
In my country, they sell it, so people do collect cans and cardboard/ boxes (flattened) on trolleys or pushcarts.
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DK-Drama 🫘 Giffing n Space Cadetting🍉🌱
July 21, 2023 at 4:11 AM
When I was a child, collecting used newspapers was one way to make money e.g. for your school trip. You left yesterdays papers in bundles, and when the kids rang the door bell (with a play-trailer ... I don't know what they are called, but a small wagon for kids to drag each other around) you gave them an armful of used papers bundled with string.
What I'm saying is that what is not collected by the local trash service and what can be used as a way of making some money if time is all you have.
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DK-Drama 🫘 Giffing n Space Cadetting🍉🌱
July 21, 2023 at 4:12 AM
... is different from time to time and from country to country.
Gosh, I wish I could edit my own hastily sent comments!
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DaebakGrits
June 27, 2023 at 6:26 AM
@lordcobol out here asking the important questions! 😂
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Elinor, Team Glasses team co-captain
June 27, 2023 at 10:54 AM
With as much screentime and concern bordering on obsession as recycling gets in kdramas, it seems only right to devote some serious discussion to it here. We could probably create a 12-episode show just of recycling scenes from the last 10 years.
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Reply1988 -❣️Mother Bean❣️
June 27, 2023 at 10:59 AM
That is so true as these older characters have been helped up hills by many a male lead to show his caring side.
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Seon-ha
June 27, 2023 at 3:18 PM
FWIW, there's a salient, character-driven recycling scene in the recent second episode of Numbers!! It's in the office context, not on the street.
I remember street recycling best from the Korean War veteran episode of Tomorrow.
Also, @elinor, I'm totally trying to remember which character is briefly called an "anchovy" because that totally rings a bell, and I am telling everyone this here so that I can try to calm my tendency towards
obessessivenesstenacity.If anyone else remembers who gets called an anchovy, I'm all ears.
What we're learning Please don't let me catch whiff of ANYTHING that looks too close to a Kdrama Treasure Hunt, or I go rabid, clearly.
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Ali in KC
June 28, 2023 at 12:49 PM
In "Abyss" there is a cardboard-collector, who, if I recall correctly, was one of the bad guys? And wasn't the old woman who Do Bong Soon (SWDBS) helped up a hill toting a flat truck filled with cardboard?
SummerMoon
July 1, 2023 at 3:17 AM
JY Park as Yang Jin Man in Dream High, when Becky/ Baek Hee asked Jason who is on the phone?
ar_arguably romantic
June 27, 2023 at 5:08 PM
I'm fascinated by how good they're at recycling! Here, I'm seething with rage seeing un-flattened boxes taking up space in my building's shared recycling bins. Bins be full 3 days after recycling pickup.
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Lord Cobol (Kdramas, like water, flow downhill)
June 27, 2023 at 5:30 PM
They also excel at recycling plot points.
ar_arguably romantic
June 27, 2023 at 5:44 PM
@lordcobol They even have a great recycling-related insult - "trash that can't even be recycled" for the trashiest of trash people. Can't remember which drama I heard that from. Maybe it was multiple.
Blue (@mayhemf)
June 29, 2023 at 6:52 AM
This is a good one for treasure hunt. Characters collecting cardboards or leads meeting in recycling area.
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DK-Drama 🫘 Giffing n Space Cadetting🍉🌱
July 21, 2023 at 4:21 AM
In Producers, the pop star girl is loved by the housewife association leader for her recycling skills ... shown while wearing a cap and mask and all ... while they are full of prejudice about her character when they see her onscreen.
In "Because this is my first life" ML gets that expression like the floor suddenly fell down 20 cm ... the "I don't know it yet but from this moment I am lost in love" when FL almost apologizes for her habit of washing things before recycling them. The properness ... how can he not devote his life to her after that?
DK-Drama 🫘 Giffing n Space Cadetting🍉🌱
March 28, 2024 at 4:00 AM
In "Mad About You" the female lead picks up the ML's shoes in the recycling area at a time where he is angry at her, and at first, he wants his shoes back, as I recall, maybe he even thinks she is weird for taking shoes that obviously are to large, but then he finds out she really needs them [spoiler alert] to make it seem she is not home alone.
2 Reply1988 -❣️Mother Bean❣️
June 26, 2023 at 10:40 PM
@daebakgrits thanks for the essay this week, we needed it🥰
‘The part that struck me most about this scene was the heart-wrenching way he described being trapped in the car’s wreckage, feeling Ju-won’s body grow cold on top of him while he waited for the emergency crew to extract them from the car’ 👈🏾😭 horrific experience for anyone, but a child so young.
‘The unexpectedly humorous rickshaw scene did wonders to lighten the mood’ 👈🏾 so glad to see more of smiling boy’s story. I was so happy to see him and have been wondering about his story as it’s such a bit part for an actor who has had two male lead roles now. I guess working alongside veterans of the next gen is good for the younger actors and exposure in hit dramas will help as both his previous dramas had low viewer ratings.
‘Two new (and mysterious) side characters have been introduced in passing, and lest we forget, Ji-eum also ominously suggested that the quick turnaround between her 18th and 19th life might have been because she was — drumroll please — murdered’ 👈🏾this is where I am hoping we can keep the love stories, fantasy past lives, hotel ownership battle and hint of thriller all balanced out and not get the shift in tone we had in Sh**ting stars that meant darkness contaminated the light fun watch for a couple of episodes to the point that I nearly dropped it due to my low tolerance for anxiety provoking scenes.
I am loving this drama and really hope we don’t get any spoiler comments in this weeks comment section.
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vienibenmio
June 27, 2023 at 5:31 AM
If it's like the comic, the romance won't take a backseat to the other stories. The relationships were pretty much the main focus of the comic (hope that isn't a spoiler, just wanted to reassure you).
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Reply1988 -❣️Mother Bean❣️
June 27, 2023 at 6:17 AM
The main issue for me is the reason the dramas I wanted to watch were dropped or not started was due to elements being included that I choose not to watch. As this drama is not the webtoon we don’t know what they will do for the drama ratings. Yumi’s cells drama went down a very different route from the drama for one of the Key storylines so referring back to the webtoon didn’t help those of us that had read it. It just meant our ‘helpful’ responses to hypothetical questions being asked by beanies ended up as either an unintentional spoiler or was irrelevant as the drama changed things.
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DaebakGrits
June 27, 2023 at 6:32 AM
I'm one of those weird K-drama viewers that actually enjoys a little suspense/mystery/thriller added to my romances, but there is definitely a need for quality control when those elements are included. I'm hoping this drama finds the appropriate balance and pacing.
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3 indyfan
June 26, 2023 at 10:53 PM
I'm feeling the feelz too. SHS did great in her depictions with her niece, sister and mother (except that odd solo waltzing or whatever that was). She was also touching when she gently managed ML's trauma. But while I do see that her ongoing blunt come-ons are cracking the ML's shell, and I do get that her "insider knowledge" might lead to her inappropriate approach, I just don't like this aspect of the character. It may have worked in the webtoon but I think the show could have translated it better somehow.
While I may have filed several restraining orders by now, it is melty to see ABH warm up to her itty by bitty bit. He's doing well as the vulnerable lead. That recollection of being trapped below someone you love as their life drains out. Oof.
The recap didn't mention the mysterious guy following SHS, I think. What are those bells? Like the soul controlling ones in AoS?
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shichybot
June 26, 2023 at 11:12 PM
It’s only stalking if the one doing it is unattractive, right? 🤭
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Mina00
June 27, 2023 at 12:50 AM
That's the point defiantly agree :)
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ar_arguably romantic
June 27, 2023 at 5:11 PM
The Dobler-Dahmer theory from How I Met Your Mother: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkQJKeO8zUo&ab_channel=Paolo
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indyfan
June 27, 2023 at 6:39 PM
Ha ha. Good one. As a child I saw Say Anything as unbelievably romantic. Who am I kidding? Still do. But I’ve read articles since that make a good case why it normalizes stalking.
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DK-Drama 🫘 Giffing n Space Cadetting🍉🌱
July 24, 2023 at 5:11 AM
Let's joke about it here but also: NO.
I just have to say that, because there are SO many depictions of stalking and unsolicited and stubbornly continued advanced that are depicted as true love, and I am sure that some stalkers as well as some of the people who ought to stop those stalkers, believe in those stories.
And you can discuss the limits ... I mean, what if you just spend a lot of time near someones house or workplace, hoping to "accidentally" bump into them?
But no matter where you set that limit, the hopeful loverboy/girl's appearance is not what makes the difference.
Not that he was a stalker, but there was a shooter several years ago in the US, who was actually quite pretty (which he knew and therefore saw himself as entitled to someone giving him s*x). Probably people have felt his vibe and he was disgusting no matter how he looked. Since he wasn't given his "due" portion of what he wanted, he went out and shot and killed 6 or 7 girls. Stalking or shooting makes any attractiveness go away instantly.
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minnie
June 27, 2023 at 4:50 AM
Korean shamans use this kind of bells as rattles.
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DK-Drama 🫘 Giffing n Space Cadetting🍉🌱
July 24, 2023 at 5:45 AM
PS: It *does* matter, though whether the stalker is smaller and less muscular than the stalkee, and unarmed.
It can still be terrible, but it makes a big difference whether the stalkee has reason to fear for their health or their life.
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4 captainlaika
June 26, 2023 at 10:58 PM
I loved the family moments in these episodes. And the moment I realized the scene with Ju-won's mom recognizing her was imaginary? SO much ugly crying....well played drama, well played.
I'm not familiar with the webcomic, so I'm not sure how I feel about the possible murder subplot but given the plot of the show it's hard to say anything but 'sure why not'. I guess if they keep delivering on the emotional beats like they have been, I'll be happy
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Kafiyah Bello
June 27, 2023 at 4:13 AM
Me too, the way I sobbed in that scene, uhfhseh.
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5 emsel
June 26, 2023 at 11:10 PM
So is there going to be some shaman and body/soul control plot in the future? This is not the route what I would like for the drama to take.
Cho won was just like her older sister. Her directness in confessing to Do Hyun cracked me up. As much as I like the bickering between Seo Ha and Ji Eum, I do not see any sparks between them as a couple and the scenes of Seo Ha imagining a adoloscent Ju Won in the place of Ji Eum is really not helping things.
More of Ae young and the FL trying her best to live her current life with the sorrow and loved memories of her past lives, please. That's were the drama shines the most.
Also, this drama has so many brilliant child actors. The little boy from 3rd life emoted well for a short scene.
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DK-Drama 🫘 Giffing n Space Cadetting🍉🌱
July 24, 2023 at 5:14 AM
The child actors ... yes, they are brilliant!
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6 shichybot
June 26, 2023 at 11:14 PM
Finally, after the romcom kdrama drought these past two years, this is one finally (hopefully) delivers! My husband and I love the fantasy aspect and how witty the banter is. So far so good, we hardly notice the time! And it comes out at nearly midnight in this part of the world.
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7 sakuradaydream
June 26, 2023 at 11:23 PM
good lord that hugging scene outside Cho-won's place had no right being that sad
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8 kimchiturka
June 26, 2023 at 11:31 PM
This drama would be really great if they stopped with the constant reminiscenscing on their bigger-than-life childhood connection. I just don't get that trope and I can't get behind it. No matter how important and traumatic the past events were in their moment, especially for him - he was 10 years old and he lived more than 20 years after that - it is beyond unlikely that he would miss the girl so vividly, or even remember her that well, as a GROWN MAN - no matter how "romantic and cute" their interactions were. It just weirds me out and takes me out of the story. I wish they just had them both meet in their past lives as at least older highschoolers, and then have them reconnect in this life.
That being said, I'm calling it - I bet they actually met in her 1st life as well!
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Reply1988 -❣️Mother Bean❣️
June 27, 2023 at 12:33 AM
👆🏾You’re going for an Extraordinary You moment! Bookmark this so you can bring it back in the comments when you are proved right. I wonder how it works as if she is one of the few if any remembers previous lives how would she know it was him as they have different faces each time?! Eagerly awaiting this one😊
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kimchiturka
June 27, 2023 at 6:28 AM
I don't think she knows it's him now, nor maybe she even will, we will probably just be shown something in the last episode that will show us that yes - he heavily impacted her first life as well (more like Hotel del Luna style) ;)
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indyfan
June 27, 2023 at 1:11 AM
I quite dislike that trope in general as well and those "romantic" childhood scenes (ick). But it was a wee bit more believable here because he met her at a vulnerable moment in his life (his mother's death and perhaps some transfer of emotions), she died slowly on top of him, perhaps protecting him (way to imprint on someone), he became emotionally and physically disabled after (already friendless, now even more isolated) and no one at home to fill that void. (And, if they'd met as highschoolers, he'd be rather old for the reincarnated FL.)
But yeah, still not really believable. (I also don't get her obsession with him, but that's a separate discussion.) But at least we're calling this one a fantasy, so that's just one more fantastical thing to roll with. Just stop with the flashbacks drama.
Have you started Heartbeat? It's not the childhood, but the past life love connection that I think they're gonna blow. Just a feeling.
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Blue (@mayhemf)
June 27, 2023 at 5:03 AM
Yeah. Not a fan of this trope but this is one of the better done ones. Like you I have accepted it otherwise I can’t enjoy the show!
I get his crush on her but not the other way around.
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Koalatown
June 27, 2023 at 9:22 AM
I had a lot of trouble with her obsession with him too... but I was thinking in her 18th life she "liked" him... she never said she loved him, and she certainly didn't propose marriage then. For some inexplicable reason she really connected to him as a kid and somehow was able to forget her jaded past lives when she was in him, maybe because his sad life was so tough. Maybe she empathetically felt a lot of care/responsibility for his happiness because she promised his dying mom and she strongly connected with him from her past lives when she was left behind with all that grief. She had also promised him that she would stay by his side until he could get back onto his own 2 feet. But because her life was cut short, she wasn't able to keep that promise, which is why when she was dying, she wished for the first time to remember her past life and made that promise that she'll come back to see him. So, in her 19th life when she regained her memory... the need to be by his side and help him was seared onto brain. That poor traumatized boy grew up into a poor traumatized man who needs a crazy lady to help him move past his trauma and find love again. If she really wants him to love her as Ji-eum then it would be good if she laid off the clues which may just confuse him further. However, the show only has 12 episodes to finish their story so they are likely forced to move things quickly.
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Blue (@mayhemf)
June 27, 2023 at 9:35 AM
Like I mentioned in previous week's recap, I would have liked the premise of her wanting to protect him in this life and in the process they fall for each other as adults. Sometimes, I dont even know if she means it when she says she likes him or asks him to marry her.
indyfan
June 27, 2023 at 8:15 PM
I agree. And like @mayhemf in last week’s recaps I tried rewriting the script to change the motivations and romance arc progression that makes more sense in that light.
Oh well, maybe the screenwriters are listening to us beanies to improve their next project.
kimchiturka
June 27, 2023 at 6:35 AM
I get all the circumstances that you stated that they're using to try to make this more plausible, but... Nah. It's still just weird. And as you said, her obsession with him - separate discussion.
This drama is a really fine example of how great actors and directing are able to compensate for huge unappealing plot points.
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indyfan
June 27, 2023 at 7:40 AM
My IRL drama buddy commented that ML may not be as much romantically attached to the child FL as trauma bonded, unable to move past that terrible time in his life, which made a lot of sense. The boy needs therapy for his PTSD as @vienibenmio said, not just love.
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Koalatown
June 27, 2023 at 8:57 AM
I agree. I think when they replace the FL with the 18th actress during the drunk scene and bedroom scene are kind of like "ghosts" of Ju-won's personality/actions reflected in Ji-eum that he sees. Sort of like sometimes I look at my sister and I can totally see my mom in her facial expressions or actions. I don't think it's necessarily superimposing romantic feelings from his childhood onto her. He was trauma bonded as well as loneliness bonded when his mom died and she was his only friend and someone who was able to get him out of his sorrow. This poor character needs a lot of therapy, hugs and only happy things from here on out. So much trauma and sadness.
KAddicted
June 27, 2023 at 10:32 AM
@turka I completely agree with you and while this 18th life situation provides a jumping in point for the current life, I see it as a massive wall between them. They are different people now. He is not a 10 year old, he's a grown man, and she is not even the 12 year old she used to be - she has since been a quite different 12 year old that has now turned into a grown woman, so while it's a history of sorts it really isn't helping their current situation. If he is to drop this silly mooning around for a dead girl he only knew for a short time, then discovering this bold, assertive woman (who is doing such a good job at bringing him out of his shell) is actually the reincarnation of said girl, isn't going to wean him off her, is it!
I said it last week, but with 18 lives apparently fully remembered, it is nonsense to me that she would be so fixated on that kid when other lives had to be more memorable. Did any child I knew before the age of 13 make a bigger impression on me than any individual in all the years that followed - in this one life I personally remember? No! To me it's such an obvious flaw to base a plot around I can only assume that Ji-eum is in fact wrong, despite her confidence, and her clinging onto the most recent past life is just a 12 year old's interpretation of connections imperfectly made because she wasn't old enough to properly understand them at the time. We may discover there are far more important threads running through lives 1-17, and her love for Seo-ha was (and is) the culmination of all that rather than a childhood "first love" seen through rose-coloured spectacles.
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kimchiturka
June 27, 2023 at 12:40 PM
Yes, thank you. You said everything perfectly.
vienibenmio
June 27, 2023 at 2:49 PM
Imo the comic does a better job explaining why he's so important to her
DK-Drama 🫘 Giffing n Space Cadetting🍉🌱
July 24, 2023 at 5:34 AM
When you have a thousand years of lived time, your age mostly doesn't matter that much. Except that with him, she could feel like a child, or now, feel young.
While I am deeply suspicious of all the 12-year-old girls swearing to love grown men in other across-life dramas, I think the fact that she could for once feel her age with him *and* that he was the younger one, makes it easier to accept the young woman coming on to him with the confidence of many grown-ups and the freshness and audacity of a newly rediscovered childhood and youth.
vienibenmio
June 27, 2023 at 5:32 AM
To be fair, her life was cut tragically short. He's gonna remember her more because of the PTSD and because guilt will prevent him from moving on.
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Reply1988 -❣️Mother Bean❣️
July 20, 2023 at 10:25 PM
I couldn't find your comment referring back to here so flagging here 🥳 well done for calling it. I am awarding you the trainee scriptwriter 🫘Beansprout🌱 award.
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Goyangi and the Camel Crickets
August 9, 2023 at 10:58 PM
I also think they first met in her first life, the life she can't remember well. Possibly in other lives too but she didn't realize it as he would have been a different person.
On the other hand, I completely understand how he remembers her so well, even small details and conversations. As a child I lost my mom to cancer. I can tell you, in minute detail, moments from those last months and the weeks after her death. What we wore, conversations with her and family and friends, what we ate, time spent doing nothing particularly special with my friends when she was in hospital, etc. And for me that was over 40 years ago. Trauma affects your memory, and your brain.
Plus the way she died, oh my gosh! - I cannot imagine a young child seeing his closest friend die let alone have her so close physically and emotionally as he lost her, how could he NOT remember and miss her?
As for her feelings, I'm guessing that will be explained later and may have to do with their first relationship generations ago.
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kimchiturka
August 31, 2023 at 2:36 PM
I'm so sorry about your mum. That was my biggest fear as a kid, it must have been beyond awful for a child. And I agree, the trauma surely affects the brain and memories, so you're right, he probably would have remembered her. But I was still not convinced by their connection in the series, it just seemed forced to me and it stayed that way until the end.
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Reply1988 -❣️Mother Bean❣️
September 1, 2023 at 9:18 AM
Thank you for sharing such a powerful example of the impact trauma can have on memories. Sometimes, I feel dramas confuse fantasy for reality and other times are very accurate and it’s hard for people to know which is which.
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9 Mrs Buckwheat
June 26, 2023 at 11:42 PM
I personally love everything about this show.
Ahn Bo Hyun's performance so far has been stellar.
The soundtrack is perfect https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mctjoaC68h0
Roll on next weekend.
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Blue (@mayhemf)
June 27, 2023 at 5:03 AM
I am really liking ABH here and seeing him in a new light!
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Mrs Buckwheat
June 27, 2023 at 5:34 AM
This is a good show/character career wise for him which will hopefully open up different roles offered to him in the future. Apart from Yumi’s Cells most of his roles have been very similar.
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loveblossom🌸
June 27, 2023 at 12:31 PM
I agree! I'm pleasantly surprised at how he shows his vulnerability and subtlety. Then again, I haven't seen much of his acting. ^^"
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10 loveblossom🌸
June 26, 2023 at 11:49 PM
Can't help but smile when I see Ji Eum and Seo Ha having cute, flirty banter. Like that almost kiss scene! *squee*
I was neutral about the leads before, but now I'm excited to see their romance blossom. I hope they stop showing Ju Won when it comes to these romantic, intimate scenes though. I don't need any more reminders. I already have it in my head how much Seo Ha is thinking of her.
Seo Ha being carted away in the rickshaw was funny! The way he slept on the ground so neatly lol. Great move to lighten the mood and I like the camera work of showing Ji Eum's past life too.
I assumed that he was the target to be killed in the car accident so then Ju Won's death was a murder. At first, I thought the two shady side characters were only after Ju Won. But the mysterious lady mentioned 'some people'. Plural. Maybe Seo Ha's fate/destiny got screwed up or Ji Eum's or both.
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11 SummerMoon
June 26, 2023 at 11:53 PM
@daebakgrits thank you for the sweet recap ❤️ I'll arm myself with a few boxes of tissue when I get around to watching the show.
It's been a busy weekend and busy week, coupled with insomnia, I haven't gotten to watching it, but at least I got to watch the show through your eyes and feels.
From someone who haven't read the webtoon and deeply appreciates your efforts not to reveal any spoilers
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Reply1988 -❣️Mother Bean❣️
June 27, 2023 at 12:35 AM
I hope you get some sleep soon, busy and insomnia is not a good mix😞
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SummerMoon
June 27, 2023 at 1:16 AM
I take naps which makes it worse but my head hurts too much when it hits 4pm from the lack of sleep. And I am a heavy napper, 15 min power naps just gives me migraine. I need sleep so I can binge in all 4 episodes before weekend comes round again 😭 wish me luck 🤞🏻
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Reply1988 -❣️Mother Bean❣️
June 27, 2023 at 2:01 AM
Oh gosh, sounds awful. I hope you can find a sleep clinic programme that works for you.
Good luck with the binge session.
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DaebakGrits
June 27, 2023 at 7:16 AM
I'm glad you enjoyed the recap! I hope you're able to watch the episodes and get some sleep soon!
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12 MikeyD signed up
June 26, 2023 at 11:57 PM
This is a silly show. By all rights it should be a webdrama done for a quarter the price with B-list actors. Yes, it's entertaining, but not really A-list actor material.
I don't really see the series as a comedy, its more a fantasy melo. The comedy came in the first 2 episodes during the setup phase.
A couple things are a bit creepy, though. One is a 35 year old man looking romantically into the eyes of a 14 year old girl. The other creepy thing is the main plot is basically an obsessed stalker story.
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Lixie
June 27, 2023 at 8:17 AM
She's in her early twenties, not a teenager. The only A list actor here is probably SHS and there are not many great dramas for them anyway so they probably pick what seems to fit the kind of character trait they want to explore.
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13 Bunny Sonaki
June 26, 2023 at 11:58 PM
I like there are no love triangles. Two couples in a romcom is way better. But I am wondering why Do-yoon acts like this though he likes Cho-won. It has to do with Seo-ha's father and the accident for sure. But I doubt his father was the culprit or something like that. Seo-ha's father mentioned how Do-yoon wan inflexible like his father. So, perhaps the father got in the way of the evil father and stepmother and got killed. Perhaps he was the driver in the car.
I don't want the drama to turn dark. And I can't help but get worried about the new characters introduced in passing.
One little complaint I have is that it would have been better at least in my perspective for Seo-ha to fall for Ji-eum not knowing the childhood connection or without Ji-eum dropping all those hints. And then when he realizes the truth it will hit harder. Now, I can't figure out if he is drawn to Ji-eum or more possibly it is all because of the resemblance she bears to Joo-won.
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Kafiyah Bello
June 27, 2023 at 4:17 AM
It is funny that you say that because Ji Eum made the same comment, she agrees. I think it is hard for her because she is so used to pulling from her other lives. She did decide to make a conscious effort to stop reminding him of Ju Won and have him love her as Ji Eum.
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Bunny Sonaki
June 27, 2023 at 6:04 AM
The thing is it is a bit late the guy already identifies them with each other. Plus, she continues dropping hints that make them connect them together. Perhaps she does it unwittingly.
I want this arc to take more depth. Does Ji-eum have a distinctive personality in each life she leads, or does he carry on with a similar personality? I understand her attachment to her life as Joo-won. But I can't find any clear lines between the two characters. It is confusing.
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vienibenmio
June 27, 2023 at 6:10 AM
I have this same criticism of the drama, too. They're making it more complicated and that's kind of having a negative impact on the main romance for me
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Kafiyah Bello
June 27, 2023 at 6:42 AM
That is fair. I think the character understands that to an extent as well. I think she was so Gung ho to be around him, that she didn't think about his mental state, which she also mentions, not thinking about the pain of those she left behind. It may be part of her character growth.
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Bunny Sonaki
June 27, 2023 at 7:03 AM
Yeah, that might be the case.
Koalatown
June 27, 2023 at 9:29 AM
My theory about past lives is that since each life still had the first 8 years as only the new self that it shapes your core self different. Then when you turn 8-12 yo the memories and lessons learned of old lives comes and further shapes you or at least changes your perspective on things. However, each life is inherently a slightly different version.. like a kaleidoscope turn... same pieces but form different images.
I agree that she didn't realize the level of trauma/grief that he has associated with her prior death and so although she came barreling to him too strong initially it does seem like she is realizing that she needs to back off. However it seems he needed that level of jarring abruptness to break open his shell first and now maybe a gentle touch.
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Kafiyah Bello
June 27, 2023 at 10:28 AM
I like that and think it makes sense. Nicely stated.
indyfan
June 27, 2023 at 6:32 PM
Second that. Well said.
Bunny Sonaki
June 27, 2023 at 7:32 PM
I agree. She might be bulldozing through his life but he needs to be shaken up to get out of his shell.
Blue (@mayhemf)
June 27, 2023 at 5:41 AM
Do-Yoon’s fathers funeral was on the same day so you might be right about him being the driver.
This seems like the step mothers doing. I will be surprised if the chairman knows about it and yet lets her be. He wouldn’t keep someone who tried to kill the heir right?
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Bunny Sonaki
June 27, 2023 at 6:07 AM
It isn't like he is a caring father. If Seo-ha doesn't live up to his expectations, he won't have a problem discarding him. Still, he might be in the dark about it.
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14 Anne18
June 26, 2023 at 11:58 PM
Thanks for the episode highlights DB! Those were the highlights for me too - SHS's crazy forwardness, and ABH's microexpressions of shock and fascination, especially in the heartbeat scene when he raised my heartbeat with his innocent "Oops, I am caught fanboying but I am gonna deny it" act. ABH's expressions of being taken aback are just perfect! Meanwhile SHS's crazy confidence shone through in the garden
scene. This girl can be a guilty pleasure sometimes, but the maturity and tenderness with which she is handling a loved one's trauma is also heartening. Seo-ha was a treasure for offering to be a 'drinking lover' who is also a good listener 😅😘.
It is getting better with each episode, and episode 4 was definitely the most memorable for me! I had different expectations from this drama, and it turned out to be much lighter and swoonier. But surprisingly, I am loving it! I can compare the vibe to The Forbidden Marriage in its lightness, craziness and swoon worthiness, but only a bit more relatable and toned down. I used to be high-hatted about antics for antics sake. Maybe I have just learnt to appreciate it, or it could be better acting (kudos to SHS, and yeah I was right about ABH who is killing it with the tender expressions), or simply the human sentiments which have more warmth and relatability. I am not minding the clichés and tropes in the story as long as ABH and SHS keep giving me the perfect blend of tenderness and craziness which is the USP of this show. Not reading the webtoon is also helping me I guess, as I have no expectations.
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Kafiyah Bello
June 27, 2023 at 4:19 AM
Yes, his WTF expressions are the best.
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Blue (@mayhemf)
June 27, 2023 at 5:43 AM
It’s so subtle but says so much. Loving his expressions here!
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Anne18
June 27, 2023 at 6:18 AM
😂 Yeah right, that's what he is showing, but he's secretly enjoying her antics too.
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15 Kurama
June 27, 2023 at 12:08 AM
I really liked these episodes.
Like I already said, the 2 sisters are the steamroller of confessing, the guys have no chance! It will be fun to watch them trying to resist :p
Seo-Ha is already loosing just by the fact he can't help to think about her.
For Do-yoon, it looks more like an issue of different standard of their family. We already saw how he was treated by rich people...
I like how her different lifes still intervene in the story. The scenes are really beautifully filmed.
I really don't care about the mystery of the accident and her death.
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Kurama
June 27, 2023 at 12:28 AM
I hope the weird guy/shaman will be able to help her stop remembering her past lives and not him being a bad guy.
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16 Mina00
June 27, 2023 at 12:57 AM
Thank you for great recap and making my Tuesday morning coffee time memorable :) Finally a great love story with a great acting and amazing directing and music. I did enjoy so much this week's episodes .
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17 coffee_jelly
June 27, 2023 at 2:20 AM
Episode 3 was the best for me so far. I was caught off guard by that crying scene outside Chowon's house. While I was already spoiled that she will see her mom from the 18th life, I didn't expect I'll literally cry my eyes out. I loooooooove every scenes of Aegyeong and her uncle lmao... and also Jieum spending time with 'her' Chowon.
I can't keep the smile off my face with that scene at Cheonggyecheon, when they almost kissed, and when Seoha leaned her head on Jieum's "premium" shoulders.
I am liking the show so far, except the constant flashback scenes of Juwon everytime Seoha is with Jieum... oh and that flamenco-dance fight lol. I hope that future episodes would finally make it seem that Seoha is slowly falling in love with Jieum, not Juwon.
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18 Miss_elly
June 27, 2023 at 2:22 AM
A few things. First, that scene where she imagined hugging her mom was a gut punch.. so many tears.
Our poor ML with all the ptsd trauma, I really hope he was seeing a therapist. For those that are mentioning the creep factor with the adult ML/ teenage FL scenes, when he is seeing her imposed on our FL, while I get it, but since she did die as a child he has no context for what she would look like as a 30+ year old woman.
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vienibenmio
June 27, 2023 at 5:33 AM
I didn't feel this way with the comic, but the drama has made thinking Seo-ha needs therapy, not a romance
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indyfan
June 27, 2023 at 6:56 AM
Yes! He is so scarred. Love doesn’t magically make PTSD go away. Tho this is drama world where love is all powerful, I’d be happy if they showed him all getting therapy.
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vienibenmio
June 27, 2023 at 3:00 PM
I'm a PTSD therapist and it's hard for me to see Seo-ha's current level of attachment to Ju-won as anything but unresolved trauma related guilt. Again, I didn't feel this way about the comic so idk if the drama made him more severe (i don't think that's the case though) or if it's just because I'm seeing a real person. Either way it's kind of detracting from the romance for me
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Koalatown
June 27, 2023 at 4:01 PM
Interesting point. I think this may be true. I have been reading the webtoon and I think a lot is really very similar but the trauma is more dramatic in the drama because of ABH's effective emoting which really tugs on the heart strings which doesn't come across as deep or as dark in the webtoon IMO.
indyfan
June 27, 2023 at 6:31 PM
Oh wow. Your insights are much appreciated then.
And yes, I do think the screen can be a much more visceral experience than books sometimes. Horror books do nothing for me but PG13 shows have me hiding!
19 bluejwoodz
June 27, 2023 at 2:57 AM
It was interesting to see Do-yoon reject the blind date with Cho-won especially since it seemed the feelings are definitely mutual. Do-yoon is not a man of many words, but I feel like he says so much through just his eyes and expressions.
For instance, the subtle affectionate glances towards Cho-won from afar when he secretly visited her at her garden, and the changes in his expressions when Cho-won teased Seo-ha at the garden and when she got excited about landing the landscaping contract with MI hotel.
Also, that tight fist he made before he declined her offer to go on a blind date is definitely a tell-tale sign that he might like her more than he appears.
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MikeyD signed up
June 27, 2023 at 6:50 AM
It makes me wonder if they're 'gay baiting' us with Do-yoon. In early episodes they had Seo-ha openly flirting with him. Then Seo-ha went to his apartment to sleep over. Do-yoon was shown to have a male room mate that they took their sweet time before explaining they were brothers (they were brothers, weren't they?).
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vienibenmio
June 27, 2023 at 10:18 AM
Lol, they were brothers
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curryyuube
June 27, 2023 at 8:23 AM
And when he looked up and down at Cho-won to see if she was okay when the cups broke too. Actually in that scene, his expressions weren't subtle at all, it's just luckily(?) no one really noticed him, except for viewers :p
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loveblossom🌸
June 27, 2023 at 12:59 PM
I think I missed this so I need to go replay it. 👀
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vienibenmio
June 27, 2023 at 3:01 PM
I had to rewatch it too after someone on Reddit mentioned it. Very subtle!
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20 pohonphee
June 27, 2023 at 3:33 AM
Never feel much irritated by hearing "I like/love you" as I hear it in this drama. This makes her love seem 'shallow' like she loves him because he is 'perfect' from the outside.
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21 sharluvsenergy
June 27, 2023 at 3:34 AM
Random but can I hug all the child actors? They are all soooooo good! Love their scenes!!
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Reply1988 -❣️Mother Bean❣️
June 27, 2023 at 3:45 AM
They really have been quite exceptional in this drama.
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22 Blue (@mayhemf)
June 27, 2023 at 3:49 AM
This show has my whole heart! These two episodes were just so poignantly beautiful yet quirky and delightful. The leads are charming and I am loving their every little interaction. This is my first time seeing Bo Hyun Ahn as a lead and I am loving his little expressions. It is so subtle yet conveys so much.
A lot of my questions from previous episodes were explained this episode. This explains a lot of her actions or lack of and makes me empathize with her lives all along.
I am relieved that there is no love triangle. The show just earned bonus points for that.
But it does look like a murder/killer arc is coming. I hope it stays relevant and doesn’t go too crazy there.
Second leads: I am not sure why Ha rejected her in such a cold manner. I will be curious how this couple get together eventually.
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23 Kafiyah Bello
June 27, 2023 at 4:25 AM
My theory on the two new mysterious people, the dancer (great Migos mural, RIP Takeoff), and Shaman is that they too remember their previous lives. It would be weird if she is the only one. That being said why they are around her and why the dancer changed the flowers, who knows.
Also I cried so hard at the scene of her imaginary hugging her mom. She is obviously a good mother and the best she has had so far.
I laughed at that weirdo fight scene with her brother, lol. Looks like she has been using Flamenco dancing for years.
Finally, I really appreciated the drunk scene and that she didn't kiss him. She wanted him to be fully present and I love that for both of them.
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kimchiturka
June 27, 2023 at 1:36 PM
I think the dancer is his mother reincarnated.
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Reply1988 -❣️Mother Bean❣️
June 27, 2023 at 2:24 PM
Me too. Let’s see if we are proved right😊
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24 Unaspirated
June 27, 2023 at 5:21 AM
As soon as they hinted that Ji-eum and Cho-won might be in a love triangle together, I sighed and slumped back in my chair, wanting something - anything - different for them. And then the drama totally delivered! The whole thing was a fake out, and I love that we got to realize it alongside Ji-eum as Cho-won started to mention things that definitely do not apply to Seo-ha. *sigh of relief* This is much more fun and interesting, and the love triangle between Ji-eum, Ju-won, and Seo-ha is already more that complex enough.
Unlike other beanies, I'm not really weirded out by Seo-ha's fixation on and imagining of Ju-won whenever Ji-eum reminds him of her. To me it doesn't feel like a grown man creepily crushing on a 12 year old girl, but the same exact little boy he was back then, just totally unable to let her go. And understandably so, honestly. He's got trauma upon trauma when it comes to his memories of her. Best case scenario for me would be him learning to move past that and THEN finding out about the past lives. If he finds out first, it would make the healing feel weirder for me.
I loved the vulnerable conversation between Seo-ha and Do-yoon this week. You could tell how close they are and how much Seo-ha relies on having someone in his life who is actually on his team.
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Kafiyah Bello
June 27, 2023 at 5:46 AM
I'm with you, he is insanely emotionally stunted and understandably so. So I they show him as a grown up, but I think it would be better if they showed him as a child to help show what they meant. He is staring at her through a child's eyes of love and not an adult.
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25 vienibenmio
June 27, 2023 at 5:29 AM
I was so excited to finally have Cho-won and Do-yun's story start. I'm a little unhappy with some of the changes made, especially with the story of how they met and how the drama portrays Cho-won vs. how the comic did. I also thought the drama line from the comic was way funnier than the housekeeping book (actually, the comic overall is funnier). But I suppose it's like any adaptation where you're always going to prefer the original.
I do think that the drama loves to emphasize her past lives, which is cool dramatically but makes the romance feel a little more weird. Then, as I've repeatedly mentioned, I was more into the second couple in the webcomic anyway. I'm also just really sick of that scene with her drinking alcohol in her past life, lol.
The drama seems to be making a major change story-wise from the webcomic, and I'm wondering if they actually are or if they're just throwing out a red herring.
Finally, they are adding all of these elements and characters and I have NO idea how the drama is gonna fit everything in with only 12 eps. The webcomic alone is a lot of ground to cover.
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curryyuube
June 27, 2023 at 9:27 AM
Regarding how they met, I don't remember clearly but is it that in the webtoon, he gave her the umbrella from Seo-ha, and still had his own, which was more Do-yun-ish (I supposed?); and that she didn't confess right away?
More importantly, thank you for your comments in previous recap! As her casual fan, I wanted to watch Ha Yoon-kyung in this drama but got upset when it hinted that Cho-won likes Seo-ha. Thank for your comments, I skimmed through the webtoon, was happy that I was tricked, and came back anticipating a lot in how our secondary couple's story will be portrayed here.
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vienibenmio
June 27, 2023 at 2:55 PM
Glad I could help! I didn't want to spoil but I didn't want people to stop watching because they were worried about a love triangle
Yeah I'm referring more to how she didn't confess right away, but rather had a crush on him, saw him years later again, and then confessed to him (or rather, was about to but he preemptively rejected her. Lol)
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curryyuube
June 28, 2023 at 2:19 AM
Exactly I might either dropped or hate-watched if there was a love triangle.
Oh about Cho-won's personality, in the webtoon she seems sharper, but here is brighter instead, at least so far right? I find it matching with the change in her job, from marketing department head to a landscaper, though.
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vienibenmio
June 28, 2023 at 9:37 AM
Yeah, I would agree with that. She seems brighter here, although that may be the actress too.
26 welh
June 27, 2023 at 6:22 AM
Ban Ji-Eum has not let up on the gas pedal in her quest to get Seo-Ha. He is starting to pick up little clues and having flashbacks (like after the blaring truck) which gets him in a new mind set. But it is Ji-Eum who is now realizing that her reveal will have more emotional impact on herself than her loved ones who still yearn to see her again. The fantasy of her mom recognizing her was overwhelming to her . . . and the final clue for Seo-Ha’s mystery woman.
I did not realize Ha Do-Yun and Mun were interconnected at the funeral home when Ju-Won died, but it makes some sense if Ha’s father was also killed in the accident. It was an awfully big hint when Ji-Eum said it was rare to be reincarnated so quickly after death, meaning that her life was cut short by murder. I had a passing thought that was the case with the accident. Ju-Won’s passing must have had Seo-Ha's father giving the Yoon family generous compensation to live in a very nice house.
Episode 2 weaves the various personal social barriers of Seo-Ha and Ha; both seem to have difficulty making new relationships based on the past. There is a new character, Hanna, whom Ha watches over as well as his brother. Seo-Ha’s father’s MO is money can buy anything including closure. Both Seo-Ha and Ha cannot let go their past. Ji-Eum’s hypnotic, cheshire cat face is intoxicating without going through a shelf of soju and beer. The director is using that image over and over again for us to vicariously experience Seo-Ha’s perspective. Nice. We are rushing toward the realization that Cho-Won and Seo-Ha will know Ju-Won is back. The fall out can be dangerous: long embraces or or the probable denial by them as Ji-Eum is painted as a grifter looking for money and wealth. I think Ha will figure things out first.
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27 hacja
June 27, 2023 at 7:29 AM
I like the adult main romance in this one, although it does bother me that he keeps seeing the 15 year old actress when he looks at Ji-Eum--not because I think he's perverted, or anything, just that she has absolutely no mannerisms or any suggestion that she's reminiscent of her except she said similar things, so its really jarring. Speaking of jarring, the trouble with the continuous childhood flashbacks for me is that the 15 year old actress is obviously somewhat mature, and the 11 year boy actor is not only 2 feet shorter (which I well know is possible) but so prepubescent that the love is very unlikely. I like a noona romance as much as anyone, but not at this age.
I must say that for whatever reason--perhaps because there are few too many child actors, who are all really good, but kind of hard to totally identify with except in a parental way--I'm not getting the deep emotion of loss and regret. Comparing fantasy back in time dramas, for example, I was more moved by the new understanding of her parents achieved by the daughter in My Perfect Stranger. But that could just be because I can emotionally identify with time-traveling Hyundais.
Speaking of other dramas, as far as the evil shaman who I have a feeling will either 1)remove Ji-eum's memories or 2)cause her to turn to stone via bells, I hope they show a mirror view so we can see the demon that's attached to him.
Also, of the 6 attractive male leads I'm watching right now, 3 had chances to date beautiful women that through 4 episodes they keep blowiing, and 1 is a vampire. No wonder Korea's child birth rate is among the lowest in developed countries. Thank heavens there are manly accountants without college degrees!
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DK-Drama 🫘 Giffing n Space Cadetting🍉🌱
July 1, 2023 at 4:13 AM
All those D*** vampires overflowing the dating scene is a real problem!
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28 LaurenSophie
June 27, 2023 at 7:38 AM
In the early episodes, when we first saw how Ji-Eum died, the impact wasn't as profound as it should have been because it was just another truck of doom tragedy. (That is absolutely an over-used trope and although its appearance typically makes me laugh at the predictability, the narrative cost of its inclusion is high: namely, the tragedy loses its emotional impact.) But as the plot unfolds in this drama, we see that Seo-ha's enduring pain comes from the unimaginable horror of not just the accident but also, feeling the literal life drain out of his friend's body. That's truly heartbreaking and deeply traumatic to experience, which makes it much easier to feel for him and understand his passivity.
In general, this is what the show does well: making us feel for the characters. The plot isn't anything original or even special, but the execution is what's working for me.
To wit, the pain of Ji-Eum being able to remember her past lives, but not share who she is with most of the people mourning her. Initially, everything seemed very straightforward--all she has to do is tell her sister and Seo-ha who she is, and like magic, they will be healed and everyone will live happily together. But we see now that it's not simple at all. Not only might they not believe her and therefore, reject her, but also, what if they *do* believe her, but it doesn't actually make anything better? The most logical, natural thing would be for them to mourn what and who they lost and then move on, because that's necessary in the kind of finite existence everyone in this story other than Ji-Eum knows. But is that truly possible in this scenario? I love that that's the central question and dilemma of the story.
I did not read the webtoon and don't want to be spoiled, but I'm really curious about Cho-won calls Do-yoon's story, why he's resisting her, and where they go from here. Even if the explanation is simple and cliched--class differences, etc.--the execution is already grabbing me, largely because of the actors' chemistry. The clenched fist thing was great, too; it conveyed so much about Do-yoon's character and feelings in just a single gesture.
Oh, and as someone who is often indifferent to OSTs, I really love the way this one enhances most every scene. So well done.
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Unaspirated
June 27, 2023 at 7:56 AM
Yes, this, exactly. This is also what is super interesting to me. I wasn't expecting this drama to be the healing drama of the season for me, but it is delivering in all the ways that The
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indyfan
June 27, 2023 at 9:41 PM
I remember from discussions last week how cavalier some of us felt JE seemed towards her past relationships except for SH. I also really liked how the show addressed this head-on week. Well done.
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curryyuube
June 27, 2023 at 8:50 AM
I'm glad that the secondary couple has managed to grab you, as I'm fan of both actors and here only for them/their characters. And even though I haven't feel much chemistry yet, already like their interactions and am excited for more :>
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vienibenmio
June 27, 2023 at 12:56 PM
They're my favorite too, both here and in the webtoon
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vienibenmio
June 27, 2023 at 3:06 PM
Those two absolutely deliver in the comic and I'm so excited to see how it plays out in the drama version.
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29 PYC
June 27, 2023 at 7:51 AM
Thank goodness - finally, a romance drama that I adore!
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30 Lixie
June 27, 2023 at 8:06 AM
This week's eps were better than the second but I'm still not buying the romance. I'm not sure why? Maybe they took too long playing with CW's interest? We knew she wasn't into him and their behavior seemed artificial. Maybe I just expected more from BJ besides declaring her interested in him over and over again? What happened with seducing someone instead of trying to brain wash them? Is drama really going with a link between BJ and JW as the reason for his interest? That's a bit lazy and why exactly? What makes her similar? Is it the caring nature? I got that was a big part of why people liked JW but it feels like telling instead of showing her nature. Her past experiences and wisdom should be getting a lot more exploration and influence in how she interacts with others. Evil parents are still completely boring. The only relationship that is always perfect is between Samchoon and Niece.
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31 chokulit
June 27, 2023 at 9:02 AM
Thank you @daebakgrits for the recap even if it made your morning coffee salty.
It's been mentioned already but it bears repeating, the child actors in this drama are so good. I haven't watched young Ji-Eum, Ju-Won, Seo-Ha and Cho-Won in any other drama, but young Aegyong was Bora in Hometown Cha-Cha-Cha. And the boy in Ji-Eum's 3rd life was good too and looked familiar.
I'm happy that there's no possible rivalry between Ji-Eum and Cho-Won. It's nice to see Ha Yoon-Kung and Ahn Dong-Gu in main roles this time. The cinematography is beautiful, more so when the characters are surrounded by flowers.
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32 Gikata
June 27, 2023 at 10:44 AM
It seems that most commenters here still struggle with the reincarnation romance trope altogether, questioning pretty much everything - from FL's very unique and often confusing mindset, to multiple age gaps, to how concept of rebirth fits with idea of moving on, to ML's mystical attraction to her etc. I get it - cultural and religious mentality do make a huge difference in perception, and from typical western perspective accepting all these borderline crazy things cannot be easy. Maybe that's just something you have to be more exposed to while growing up to fully get on board with? Well, I sort of was so none of the aforementioned factors bother me much. JW/JE's fixation on Seoha is still a bit of ??? , but I'll just take it as yet another "what does she sees in him?" case. Most people's romantic preferences leave me scratching my head anyway)))
I DO like that he's not 100% clueless to all the heavy hints she's been dropping on him with no rest. Might be an unpopular opinion, but it's always SO unbelievable and annoying to see a clear resemblance as a viewer - an outsider - while heavily emotionally attached characters themselves play dumb for ages just to drag the big reveal for longer. Yes, JE does not LOOK a bit like JW, SH said so himself, but the things she does and says to him ring a bell LOUDLY, he'd have to be very obtuse to ignore them. Thankfully, he isn't, and I'm really enjoying his growing suspicions and, well, male interest. Maybe that's what ultimately helps to shake off the creepy vibe - the obvious conflict between SH's goal to reject her for good and his body language (ABH does great here, wow) that signaled otherwise almost since the start. I mean, it only took few bottles of soju to relax him into daring her for a kiss lol. As they say, what's on sober one's mind is on drunk one's tongue - literally^^ And I am happy to report that I do dig the chemistry. Pls go on, you two)))
No love triangle? Great! And yep, DY has OTHER reasons to reject CW he clearly likes back. Murder mystery time? I'd do without it, but oh well... Same for shaman (?) guy and dancer girl - who, what, why even? I'd rather have more tearjerker moments like with JE and JW's mom or sisters drunken bonding, that hit hard all the right notes. SH's dad, mistress, step-bro (?) and JE's roaches of dad and bro all need to be ToDed asap, it's been only 4 episodes and I'm already tired of them...
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indyfan
June 27, 2023 at 6:25 PM
I can’t speak for others, but as someone from a culture where reincarnation is the primary after-life belief, it was more JE/JW fixation on child SH that I didn’t quite buy. Our stories always involve adults deeply in love who promise to find each other in the next (or 100th) life. But I’m just going with it now because I’m gonna keep watching the show. Maybe it’ll reveal something later or like you said, it’s one of the mysteries of the heart.
And yes, 100% on the looks changing btwn reincarnated lives. It also makes SH putting together the clues much more believable. And ABH is doing a lovely job of it.
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Gikata
June 27, 2023 at 6:55 PM
Well, I can - sort of - accept it also because after living for so many times lines between what's normal and what's not for her are probably very blurry. Let's just say stars aligned the right way for them in her 18th life. To think of it, it started as one of her most, if not THE MOST peaceful and carefree lives: no war/turbulent times, no terminal illness, no huge drama, well off loving family, happy childhood, boy who liked her a lot from early on etc... Maybe she though it would be a good chance to finally live an easy life dedicated to love and personal happiness first and foremost - only to have been robbed of it cruelly and abruptly. They both are fixated madly on what could have been, the only difference is that she knows that they have another chance now - and is willing to go to the great lengths to not let it slip away this time.
ABH is really doing great in this role so far. That's like a third time already that my perception of him as actor makes 180 degrees turn. Interesting)))
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indyfan
June 27, 2023 at 9:37 PM
Well, I've slowly come around accepting SH's obsession this week (tho less romance and more trauma imprinting). So who knows, maybe next week I'll come around to JE/JW's obsession. BTW this reminds me of our Revenant discussion on screenwriters owe us to make us believe.
Looking fwd to drama and discussions next week.
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33 KAddicted
June 27, 2023 at 11:10 AM
Perhaps I have a heart of stone but all the tears and waltzing around in the street with an invisible mother in her arms just had me fast-forwarding with impatience. Ep 3 almost had me comatose with all the maudlin moments which was a disappointment after the initial two episodes.
What I was struck by was the obligatory Subway scene, with Seo-ha and Do-yoon sitting there in all their designer-suited glory looking like a couple of models on a quick teabreak. Has anyone ever seen something like that in their local Subway? I certainly haven't. In fact I watched that scene twice because I didn't take in one word they said to each other the first time. Then I watched a third time because I still got distracted the second time.
I'm afraid that made a much bigger impression on me than all the tearjerking scenes. And scratch the surface of Seo-ha and underneath is the hunky ABH acting his chops off, not the sniveling 10 year old Ji-eum envisages - one reason his adult self will be wasted on her. Give him to me now, I'll revive him.
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indyfan
June 27, 2023 at 8:21 PM
Subway! That was so realistic (not)! It brought me out of the show for sure. I also thought, hang on, I haven’t seen such blatant Subway PPL in a while. Or am I wrong?
ABH is doing great in this, isn’t he?
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Scottie
June 28, 2023 at 2:14 AM
Ah, Subway PPL, how much I missed you! They used to be so omnipresent that they are now part of the comedy.
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vienibenmio
June 28, 2023 at 9:39 AM
I found that scene way too maudlin too. I dunno, it didn't seem like how a real person would act (even one as eccentric as Ji-eum). I don't blame the actress, but rather the way it was scripted or directed.
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KDramzFan
June 30, 2023 at 1:56 PM
I'm watching Military Prosecutor Doberman at the same time as this show and it's like two different ABHs.
Mostly at this point I am more invested in the secondary romance. Never saw the Webtoon so no idea about what actually happens.
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34 Miky
June 27, 2023 at 11:16 AM
I'm liking it but i'm yet not loving it..Maybe it's stopping me because of how obsessed our heroine is with Seo Ha even more considering she lived 17 lives before...Like in all her past lives was no one memorable that she longed for even after all this time...I know what they tell us of why she likes him but i don't feel the why...She could care for him but to be this obsessed with him even more when then he was just a small kid...I would have felt it more if they told us he had a long time link with her and he kept reincarnating as well but not having access to his past lives like her...
Curious if the dancer girl is his mom reincarnated and as well remembering her past life...curious about that bell dude as well...
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35 too_much_tv
June 27, 2023 at 12:07 PM
I think the rickshaw scene was a call back to Still 17. If so, I like it for that. This is definitely a different character, but the show runners know I'm watching because of the actor playing her.
It's not weird that he would remember her for his entire life. That is a legitimate response to a serious trauma. "On my birthday, my dearest friend, the one who promised my dead mother she would look after me, died while lying on top of me." Two things could happen after that: totally blocking her out, or remembering her intensely. The weird part is that she doesn't realize that she literally died on top of him until well into the next life.
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Koalatown
June 27, 2023 at 1:24 PM
I think since her past lives were mostly spaced out by time/space that she never really had to think about her death.
Even in her 3rd life which closely followed her 2nd it looks like she only could remember her mommy and the need to see her.
I think she probably died fairly soon after the car accident happened and well before the rescue people showed up, so she likely never realized how long he was trapped there with her body. What a horrible memory that no one deserves to have of a dearly loved friend/first crush not only die on top of you but remain trapped with you until rigor mortise sets in (which is actually quite fast based on my recent experience with my cat). Truly morbid and I agree a memory that you either push away as hard as you can (although likely still cause some mental health issues) or remember her intensely.
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too_much_tv
June 27, 2023 at 6:52 PM
I'm sorry about your cat! Yes, I think she was too cavalier about death. It's weird because she lived through loss. I guess one of the points of the show is that she was ready to suffer things herself but not to see other people suffer.
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DK-Drama 🫘 Giffing n Space Cadetting🍉🌱
July 1, 2023 at 4:06 AM
Kaz from Shadow and Bones will agree with you there, big time.
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too_much_tv
July 1, 2023 at 8:18 PM
I have read those novels and watched Shadow and Bone on Netflix! I just read the first of the author's novels about Yale also.
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