The Real Has Come: Episodes 1-16 (Drama Hangout)
by DB Staff
We’re trying something new and giving you a Drama Hangout if you’re a fan of epicly long KBS weekenders! Here is your space to chat as you watch The Real Has Come, with Baek Jin-hee and Ahn Jae-hyun in a contract marriage… with a baby.
Beware of spoilers! This thread is for discussing the entire series.
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1 Britney
March 25, 2023 at 3:15 PM
How is this hangout new if other shows have had drama hangouts?
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miso
March 25, 2023 at 3:37 PM
They mean this is the first one for the long KBS weekenders, which are more soap opera-ish and usually 50+ episodes.
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Britney
March 25, 2023 at 3:57 PM
Ahhh, so this is a long drama?
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miso
March 25, 2023 at 3:58 PM
Yes I think it's scheduled for 50 episodes for now.
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owl 🦉 🫰
March 27, 2023 at 6:54 PM
That is long, I actually didn’t realize that.
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2 OldLawyer
March 25, 2023 at 9:37 PM
The first Weekender hangout. And just in time as of a few minutes ago the first episode has now posted to Viki.
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3 OldLawyer
March 25, 2023 at 10:58 PM
I watched the first episode and was impressed. This is how a weekender should start. A lot was packed into the first episode, including most of the major and even minor characters. Many of the family relationships with their conflicts and even some history was revealed. Let us hope that the writer can keep this up. So far it looks good.
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Reply1988 -❣️Mother Bean❣️
March 25, 2023 at 11:24 PM
Thanks for always being willing to share your thoughts on the low profile dramas, it’s a great community service 😊
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owl 🦉 🫰
March 27, 2023 at 7:01 PM
The family set up with the powerful matriarch, tangled relationships, lifelong obligations, a variety of wanted and unwanted pregnancies, unhappy but successful third generation (semi) family members, lots of yelling, and secrets (but of course) definitely has the makings for a 50-episode weekend Kdrama that will compete with the best of them.!
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Possum
March 29, 2023 at 1:01 AM
I have more hope for this drama now I know that the writer also did Cheer up Mr Kim.
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4 Reply1988 -❣️Mother Bean❣️
March 25, 2023 at 11:23 PM
Thanks for putting this drama hangout out there, These weekenders raise so many issues in the two episodes that a space is definitely needed to share thoughts. Having been burnt by my last weekender, I will be watching this space for feedback as my live watches have been in the low numbers for a while now so I may be persuaded to jump in at a later date.
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OldLawyer
March 26, 2023 at 12:34 AM
There have been a few shows that I have avoided by doing just that. Weekenders should not be an exception to that practice.
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5 Dorotka
March 26, 2023 at 3:11 AM
I haven't watched the first episode yet (a very very busy weekend), just want to thank for the hangout!
I have high hopes for this show!
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6 geminirat
March 26, 2023 at 4:18 AM
I'm just waiting for both episodes to come out before I binge-watch. I like Ahn Jae-hyun so I'm hoping the story will be better than the last one.
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7 Diana Hansen
March 26, 2023 at 7:40 AM
I dropped the last weekend show but I am willing and ready to give this a try, especially with all the good comments about it so far and a drama hang-out will be great to have.
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8 Dorotka
March 26, 2023 at 3:21 PM
I have just finished the 2 episodes and I really like it, a very promising start!
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9 Lonestar Girl
March 26, 2023 at 4:05 PM
I enjoyed episode 1 more than I thought I would, and can’t wait for ep 2. @oldawyer is correct; it’s a soap opera-y type of drama. All the relationship intricacies in this drama remind me of the old American soap operas like As the World Turns and Guiding Light. My mama watched those faithfully so I grew up watching them too.
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dfwkimchi
April 16, 2023 at 1:18 PM
I watched Days of Our Lives, Another World and Santa Barbara and Search for Tomorrow (mainly on NBC) for many years when I was in college in the 1980s.
And as of 2012 when My Husband got a Family became wildly popular on KBS, i have been watching the weekend dramas mainly because they do focus on the family (as crazy as some of those families are). Family is just a different breed, you know. They certainly provide alot of drama!
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Lonestar Girl
April 17, 2023 at 4:24 PM
Family is indeed a different breed. Just curious: does dfw stand for Dallas-Ft. Worth? Or is it because I’m a Texan that my mind automatically goes there?
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10 Decraew
March 26, 2023 at 10:14 PM
50 episodes frighten me. I’ve only watched one of those (Young Lady and Gentleman), and it was an absolute trainwreck of a drama. Writers in general can’t seem to keep a good thing going for 16 episodes, so 50 is simply too much.
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OldLawyer
March 27, 2023 at 10:33 AM
YOUNG LADY AND GENTLEMAN was indeed a dramatic train wreck- although one that got high ratings- but the best weekenders are very watchable. A great example of this is ONCE AGAIN. FATHER IS STRANGE is another.
Remember that it is OK to drop a show- I did that with the weekender REVOLUTIONARY SISTERS which has to stand as one of the worst dramas I have ever started.
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owl 🦉 🫰
March 27, 2023 at 7:04 PM
Heard It Through The Grapevine and Yoona’sStreet were good as was My Father Is Strange.
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dfwkimchi
April 16, 2023 at 1:23 PM
Yoona's Street is still one of my favs.
Heard it thru the Grapevine is on my To Watch list which i have to pick up soon.
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owl 🦉 🫰
April 16, 2023 at 1:46 PM
It’s good~
dfwkimchi
April 16, 2023 at 1:21 PM
In 10 years of watching KBS weekend dramas, i have only dropped 2 - House of Bluebird and Young Lady and a Gentleman.
The rest of them, if they are not so bad (ie, somewhat boring), I slog through to the end.
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OldLawyer
April 19, 2023 at 7:49 PM
I also dropped HOUSE OF BLUEBIRD.
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11 The Kdrama Enthusiast
March 26, 2023 at 11:57 PM
I'm still waiting to find out what's real 😭
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12 tabong
March 27, 2023 at 2:33 AM
Week 1: Nice start!
I enjoyed these episodes. I think they were fun and really productive.
We understand most of the family dynamics and the characters' intentions. A nice introduction to the story.
I think I like or have neutral feelings for most of the characters so far. I also like the progress of the leads' relationship. I'm really glad we didn't have to watch them act unreasonable and have multiple misunderstandings. I like that instead we have a "peace". Their lives are already full of chaos, so it's nice to see them built a supportive relationship.
On another note, Tae Kyung's dad is a real mystery for me. I REALLY want to know what's going on inside his head. I would say that most of the men in the show seem weak but the fact the he couldn't say ONE word to defend (or comfort) his son, wife or himself had me shocked.
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OldLawyer
March 27, 2023 at 10:52 AM
As for the L's dad: My hypothesis is that he lives under a huge cloud for having married the ML's mom. He therefore simply has no standing to raise objections no matter what he feels.
It is painfully obvious that the ML is very much at odds with his family. But, as he noted, he really is not financially dependent on them and is more than willing to cut ties (to his mom's distress). He very wisely pursued a professional path that actually gives him the freedom to do this.
We got a lot of information in two episodes but also mysteries to resolve (which is what you want at this point in a long show). For instance, what happened long ago between our ML and his grandmother appointed "fiancée". They were sweethearts back in high school- so Grandma may have actually been thinking that she was re-uniting them after they were split apart- to her this may seem a win-win decision on her part. Is what happened then the reason for our ML's present anti-marriage stance?
Of course, the first mystery will be what happened to the babies? Or did nothing happen and there was a problem with the sonogram machine? That last scene was a total curve ball to me.
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tabong
March 27, 2023 at 1:54 PM
I understand dad's position, but even if he can't voice his opinion about the subject, I would expect him to try and talk to Tae Kyung at least.
The mom knows she can't convince halmoni so she tells TK to ignore any calls or she says she's sorry for putting him in this position. But the dad feels invisible. I feel this big void between him and Tae Kyung too.
Any other character feels more like "family" than him. At the end of the day the sibilings dislike him, and the halmoni is trying to get him married, because he is family.
Even when the halmol announced the fiance the sibilings couldn't believe who it was because it didn't make sense for them (someone from our family with her?), the mom and TK were shocked too, but the dad was clapping and smiling on his own.
I also feel like the secretary/fiance's dad is in a difficult position, but he shows that he cares. Maybe he couldn't say something at the party but when they got home he talked to her.
I just hope we get to see him more involved in the future.
TK said he doesn't like marriage because families get involved or something like that.
Him and his mom aren't treated right, so he can guess his wife wouldn't be treated like a princess either, especially if she's from a "poor" family like the secretary.
I hope the babies are okay. I know Yeon Doo said she wanted an abortion but I don't think she would feel great if they just disappear or there's a problem with them.
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OldLawyer
March 27, 2023 at 6:25 PM
My hypotheticals do not always turn out and this one may not also but, that said, my hypothesis is simply that the sonograph machine may have been wonky and the babies are indeed there. Plot purpose- to string out the time before the mother is again in a position of having to decide. Plus, it has the added advantage of giving her something to be angry about with the ML. I doubt that it could be lack of skill by the ML- he is a fertility specialist and sonograms would be something he would have to be very good at.
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beffels
March 28, 2023 at 1:23 PM
Maybe he’s just faking her out so she can discover she really wants to keep them after all (which is really mean). I could imagine her losing the babies at some point after they are already contract married (because that would remove her reason for getting fake married) but it seems to soon for that to happen straight away.
dramadillo
March 28, 2023 at 10:57 AM
I suspect the dad has never quite figured out how to be a stepfather to TG. I wonder how old TG was when his mum remarried into this awful family?
The dynamics are really interesting - TG’s mum doesn’t seem to have much respect within the family despite being married to the eldest son, but she and her husband seem to actually love each other. She was probably trying to provide TG with a stable family, but it had the opposite effect.😢
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OldLawyer
March 28, 2023 at 12:54 PM
I think that you may be right about this. I also think that it would be nice if mom were to sit the ML's designated fiancé down and explain why marrying into this family would only lead to misery.
Although she may already know this.
dramadillo
April 2, 2023 at 12:55 PM
@oldawyer After watching the 3rd episode, I’m even more puzzled by the designated fiancée’s desire to marry into this family! Does she want financial security and to be a member of this ‘respectable’ family so much that she’s willing to sacrifice everything else that matters in life? I’m keen to find out more about her motives and thinking - she doesn’t seem ill-meaning but she comes across rather opportunistic and untrustworthy.
OldLawyer
April 2, 2023 at 1:51 PM
I think that she has several reasons. She is well aware that marrying into this family would bring a fair amount of grief. But it would also benefit her family.
Second, it would keep TG an actual member of the family- he has, after all, been adopted by his stepfather- which explains why he is so resented by other family members. He is legally the son of the oldest son. She knows this and may simply be depending upon time to remedy the situation- grandma cannot live forever and her prospective father-in-law is already the chairman of the conglomerate.
So much for the cold, calculating rational reasons. Now let us talk about the real reason: She still loves TG. There is a reason she wore that necklace to Grandma's birthday party. They were high school sweethearts and he is the one who gave her that necklace. I doubt that that splitting them apart was really the idea of either one of them, and I also suspect that TG's anti-marriage attitude may have been part of the fallout from that event.
The fact that suddenly everything changed and she not only has a green light but is even ordered to marry TG must seem like a miracle to her and she is not going to offend Heaven by not doing everything she can to make it happen.
Of course this writer has already surprised us so I may be way off base.
13 Ally
March 27, 2023 at 3:54 AM
I’ve actually been looking forward to this one! Thank you for providing a hang out for it! The actors are new to weekenders, so I thought initially that this was only 16 episodes as well. It totally slipped my mind that this was airing this weekend. I just hope it’s better than Woori the Virgin. I hope it actually discusses single parenting with some thoughtfulness. We shall see.
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14 Rachel2
March 27, 2023 at 9:42 AM
The first two episodes were pretty fast-paced and entertaining. Unfortunately, I have an aversion to Ahn Jae-Hyun. So pale! Zero chemistry with female leads. I can only tolerate all the family shenanigans if I'm invested in the romance, so I don't know if I will continue watching this one.
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OldLawyer
March 27, 2023 at 10:55 AM
The romance has not really started yet but both leads are already reacting to each other so that is a good sign. Maybe AJH will surprise you this time.
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15 DancingEmma
March 27, 2023 at 1:30 PM
I had never watched a weekender and didn’t realise this was one. The production values are pretty dodgy as are a fair bit of the acting but I like the main leads so will see if I stick with it.
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16 beffels
March 28, 2023 at 3:39 AM
I’ve just been watching You’re All Surrounded and the sudden ten year change in Ahn Jae-hyun is really distracting lol.
I’ve never tried live watching a weekender before - I usually wait till they’re done then binge and fast forward to only the bits I’m interested in, so we’ll see how this goes.
I enjoyed the first two episodes; got really annoyed every time I saw a baby in a carrier because everyone was carrying too low - they need to be higher on your chest so you don’t accidentally smother baby!
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Elinor is back on Sweater Patrol
March 28, 2023 at 10:22 AM
😂 I have more trouble watching an older show where an actor suddenly gets much younger 'overnight'. It pulls me right out of the drama. I watched "Dal-ja's Spring" after "Because This Life Is Our First" and a baby-faced Lee Min-ki kind of freaked me out. Weirdly, I've only seen Ahn Jae-hyun at 5-year intervals in chronological order.
I'm not a weekender fan, so I'm going to use your strategy and wait until this is well under way before deciding which storylines, if any, to watch. The baby-carrying goof reminds me of the kdrama depiction of pregnancy, which often consists solely of a basketball under the dress with no other physical changes except perhaps the occasional hand pressed to the small of the back to show how heavy the basketball is. I'll be keeping an eye on how realistically they handle it in this one.
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beffels
March 28, 2023 at 1:26 PM
Maybe also a little bit of feeling nauseous when it is convenient for the plot 😄 that was not my personal experience 😅
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dramadillo
March 28, 2023 at 10:47 AM
Your comment about baby carrying actually made me interested in the show!😅 I needed to see it for myself and you were right, of course. They also did a terrible job of the split shots of the baby crying and AJH carrying the baby. It’s so obvious there isn’t an actual baby on him!🤣 I wonder whether they were worried about the suit?!
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Ally
March 28, 2023 at 7:59 PM
I’m super annoyed with everything about that baby. Sorry, not the baby herself, but what they are saying about her. No way that child is 11 months old unless she was a micropremie.
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beffels
March 29, 2023 at 8:47 AM
I missed that the baby was supposed to be 11 months old! The timeline for the parents having a second baby suddenly makes more sense 😄
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Ally
March 29, 2023 at 6:11 PM
I know!!! The VERY FIRST SCENE, I was like, what infertility doctor in his right mind would agree to do another implantation just after a birth of a baby? Because I was thinking that baby was, at most, 6 months old and that lady looked, at most, 4 months pregnant.
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beffels
March 29, 2023 at 8:54 PM
Maybe they just cast whatever baby someone who worked in production had 😅 3 months old? 6 months old? Practically the same as almost a year old!
Now I’m really curious about how old the baby actually is to see if I’m a terrible judge of baby ages 😄
17 fab
March 28, 2023 at 5:14 AM
The 2 episodes were good. At times it doesn't even feel like a weekender. I like the family dynamics and 2/3 of the lead characters. Each family has their strong and weak points. On a shallow point, this drama is visually while not impressive is much more appealing than the last weekender. I'd only watched up to episode 6 or so of Three Siblings but that glossy filter paired with the flashy interior of some of the homes didn't make it easier to follow the over the top story telling. Surely there were other ways to depict the same actors in their younger character than the horrendous airbrush.
And the first freak out is of the bat. TWINS!! Yikes.
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18 dramadillo
March 28, 2023 at 10:43 AM
I’m giving this one a try thanks to all the positive feedback so far, and I like it! The two-timing ex-boyfriend is just the worst, though.😤
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OldLawyer
March 28, 2023 at 1:31 PM
The Ex-boyfriend gives us someone to hate.
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Ally
March 29, 2023 at 4:49 AM
So many characters are annoying though.
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dramadillo
March 29, 2023 at 5:23 AM
True! I think he stood out for me especially because he’s just the kind of person that I dislike the most in real life - the sort that pretends to be lovely whilst living a lie, then stretches the deceit out until the last moment even as it’s all unravelling, shows zero remorse, and then has the gall to blame the person they’ve wronged for their own behaviour. It’s just yuck. 😔
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OldLawyer
March 29, 2023 at 8:13 AM
Agreed. But without the annoying characters we cannot appreciate the nice ones. They are also necessary plot wise because this drama has to sustain itself for 48 more episodes. That would be difficult with just one awful Ex. Also, some of them will change for the better.
My best example of this annoying to good journey comes from the great weekender FATHER IS STRANGE. At the beginning of the drama the character of Kim Yoo-joo who is downright nasty (but really good at her job). She has long been just awful to Jung Somin's character. Unknown to her the man she is in love with is the son of this family and she ends up becoming a sister-in-law to Jung Somin and DIL to the titular Father. Over the course of the drama she changes from a witch to a saint- a warm and also wise person who has become one of the pillars of her family.
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Possum
March 31, 2023 at 11:46 PM
That gradual change in her character was well done. Because there’s 50 episodes the change can happen in a believable manner. The gradual character growth that can occur is one of the best things about a good weekend drama.
19 Possum
March 29, 2023 at 1:12 AM
Really surprised to find this available on Viki. It’s been a while since I’ve been able to watch a weekend drama. After watching the first couple of episodes I have enough questions/interest to keep going.
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20 snancy
April 1, 2023 at 5:49 PM
I just watched ep. 3, and it ticks off all the soapy weekender drama tropes. Not usually my thing, so I'm a little embarrassed to admit that I can't wait for ep. 4!
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OldLawyer
April 1, 2023 at 11:45 PM
Same here. Definitely has the tropes- but put together so well. I had to wait a little longer to see episode 3- Viki takes time to post it where I am, but it was a lot of fun.
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snancy
April 2, 2023 at 5:43 AM
I get Kocowa off and on. Glad to have it now, because subs are fast.
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21 snancy
April 2, 2023 at 7:03 PM
Nooooo, ep. 4! The previews after ep. 3 made it seem like Tae-Kyung was going to propose to Yeon-Doo right away, but I guess with 50 episodes this will get dragged out. A lot. Oh how I hate the selfish, entitled, unloving halmoni who will never admit she's wrong. And if the dad loved his wife and Tae-Kyung so much, how could he let the grandmother abuse them for so long?
On another note, I recently rewatched JUGGLERS, and my brain thinks Baek Jin-Hee and Cha Joo-Young are in back-to-back shows together ;^)
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tabong
April 2, 2023 at 10:37 PM
"And if the dad loved his wife and Tae-Kyung so much, how could he let the grandmother abuse them for so long?"
I actually think the chairman is the most selfish character here. I don't like him at all.
And just like Jugglers, Cha Joo Young's character doesn't get to smile and has a crappy boss.
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dfwkimchi
April 16, 2023 at 1:35 PM
Cha Joo Young was very memorable for me in Chimera (2021) and Again My Life (2022). In both those roles, she didn't smile much, VENGENCE was her primary motivation.
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22 tabong
April 2, 2023 at 10:59 PM
WEEK 2.
Tae Kyung and Yeon Doo are lovely. I love them. Even if there isn't romance for a while, I'll be okay with it. I'm fine just watching them be supportive and cute. They were ice-skating but the scene felt so warm.<3
I also enjoyed the scenes between Tae Kyung's mom and YD. I'm glad YD had another woman —and mother— to talk about her situation. TK's mom was really sweet and supportive.
Hope they meet again (just casual).
But my favorite scene with TK's mom was when she asked for the divorce. I know it ain't really happening but IT FELT SO GOOD. LOL
I'm just tired of that family. The halmol and sibilings for obvious reasons, and the chairman... I like how TK doesn't call the chairman "father". I bet that man has never treated TK like a son.
After listening how they call "his SON" a bastard and that he doesn't have the RIGHT to be involved in the company business, his reaction was to promised to never get TK involved with the company. Not even a "but he has as much right as the others. He isn't a stranger, he's my seki".
He only called/looked for TK when his wife run away and asked him for a divorce.
It was funny when he told Se Ji's dad that he felt kinda bad about using Se Ji. It was also interesting when he was drunk and he said to TK that he knew about all the mistreatment TK and his mother suffer but that he ignored all that because he just wanted to be by her side. So f romantic.
I definitely prefer the awful halmol and sibilings tbh. At least they don't throw fake smiles and pretend to care.
Btw, Yoon Do's brother.... I understand his concern completely but there's a line you shouldn't cross man.
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OldLawyer
April 3, 2023 at 7:27 PM
Just think how many characters have a lot of room for growth. This particularly includes some of the people we like- particularly TK.
His adoptive sister, who wants a divorce? If we know anything about K-dramas we know that she is about to find out that she is pregnant.
Yoon-doo's brother is another case in point.
You can keep going right down the list. So much story potential here
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tabong
April 4, 2023 at 3:18 AM
That's a great point.
With all these conflicts coming to light right from the beginning we'll be able to see the characters hit the bottom and then rise. All the challenges they're going to face will help them grow.
If they drag, twist and recycle the plot for 20 episodes, and finish the show with unresolved issues... Aigoo.
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OldLawyer
April 4, 2023 at 10:00 AM
Given how much we have already seen is just four episodes I doubt that anything will be left unresolved by the end of episode 50. But I have already been surprised so I think we can depend upon a lot of plot twists on the way.
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dramadillo
April 4, 2023 at 2:38 AM
Thank you for mentioning YD’s brother! I’m still shocked by his response!! Surely she’s in a pickle whether she keeps the baby or not? It seemed like those online forums were eviscerating her for considering an abortion as well? (Or did I misunderstand?) Because this creates the set-up for a fake marriage - it’s the only ‘acceptable’/‘respectable’ option open to her in this backwards world.😔
And YD’s mum’s response as well - all whilst her son had a daughter at 18. I’m starting to think I don’t have the constitution for a weekender.🤣
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tabong
April 4, 2023 at 4:16 AM
I can understand YD's family.
From their perspective this situation makes no sense, it's m the worst.
YD was about to achieve her goal. They've made clear that YD has gone through a lot to protect her dream. And considering this ridiculous society where students/parents have the right to have an opinion on a teacher's love life (the CCIR flashbacks were crazy), and how pregnant women aren't really welcomed to teach or wtv, being pregnant before marriage is just insane.
And not only that, she also has her brother as an "example". They always talk as if his life ended when he was 18. It's like she lives with a reminder of what she isn't supposed to be.
And then BOOM, this happens...
Something similar happened in my family so I can understand what her mom and dongsaeng are thinking.
Two days ago she was the #1 tutor now she's an unemployed single mom.
I get that part, so I was going to ignore everything the bro said, but when he just gave her the list I really wanted to slap some sense into him. And not even once he asked her how was she feeling.
2. I think that usually the big conflicts arrive in the middle and by then we are attached to the characters and we're invested in the story. But this time we didn't have time for that.
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dramadillo
April 4, 2023 at 4:29 AM
Ah, thank you so much for explaining! I needed that context to be laid out for me because it just seemed so extreme and cruel, not just the invasion of privacy and sexism, but also that her brother and mum felt they had a say in what she should choose for herself. Honestly, I’m still reeling from the discovery of her boyfriend’s cheating, so I have no idea how she’s even processing the pregnancy + the loss of one twin, on top of losing her job, and then her family being less than caring and supportive. I know we’re setting up for many episodes of story to unfold, but wow. It’s a lot.😅
I think your second point is spot on. I haven’t been won over yet and don’t feel sufficiently invested in the people who live in this story, so laying it on this thick is challenging my willingness to stick around. But I like all the insight beanies share on here, so I’m staying for at least another week.🙃
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tabong
April 8, 2023 at 2:04 PM
I understand their POV but I also would like to see a little of support. She's has gone through a lot and there's literally no one to give her at least a hug.
Maybe that's why I find the scenes with the ML so warm and precious.
I feel the same.
If they keep showing the Tae Kyung's family being horrible 80% of the time, I will also have a hard time sticking with the show. I'm watching mainly for YD's story.
23 pohonphee
April 3, 2023 at 12:27 AM
Ahhh so this is one of the SK government's effort for the declining its already low birth rate. I see 😀
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Dorotka
April 4, 2023 at 4:39 AM
😂😂
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sooyi
April 6, 2023 at 8:13 AM
Was thinking the same thing 😁In addition to babies, the networks are pumping out a lot of marriage-centered plots (recently, there have been a growing number of young South who consider themselves anti-marriage).
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24 stove
April 3, 2023 at 3:45 AM
I thought the first week was decent but after the second week I decided to drop. Too hard to watch the grandmother. Unnecessarily mean and unreasonable. Don't like the patriarch of the family.
Did not like/understand ML kneeling in front of the grandmother.
I guess I am tired and bored of nasty rich people from the dramaland :).
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stove
April 3, 2023 at 3:53 AM
Sacrificing himself so his mom can stay with a horrible family. Not my cup of tea
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stove
April 3, 2023 at 4:00 AM
One more rant: the father dies not love his wife. He just needs her as a kinder mother to compensate for his awful one.
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snancy
April 3, 2023 at 7:11 AM
@stove, I hear your rants! And we're just at episode 4 out of 50! Right now I want to wait until the fake marriage, but they better not drag it out too long...
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dfwkimchi
April 16, 2023 at 1:45 PM
I was very surprised that the grandmother is such a mean matriarch here in this drama. Kang Bu Ja, the actress portraying the grandmother, played the wise and caring matriarch in the the MBC 2011 daily drama 'Iron/Indomitable Daughters-in-law' which i binged in 2022 during a lull in new dramas and i watched it WITHOUT subtitles. That was a good daily drama.
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25 indyfan
April 3, 2023 at 6:46 PM
My first weekender! It feels like a decade-old drama. Is it the production values? The soapy plot? Even the characters/acting?
I don't mind all those tropes, if they'll be done right. But like others have said, the chaebol family is grating. The second leads as well. All that slapping! If they can tone it down, I'll keep watching. There's not much exciting out there currently. I'm kinda liking our leads, even the ML some by episode 4.
BTW Does anyone in drama-land ever actually have an abortion? And it was the right decision for them?
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pohonphee
April 4, 2023 at 3:27 AM
I think there are but I can't recall the titles. I think east asia countries are quite open minded about abortion. Even my conservative country, abortion is okay to an extent if it is necessary.
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indyfan
April 6, 2023 at 7:54 PM
That's what I thought. But it's rarely carried out (and shown in a positive light) in the dramas I've seen. It always seems giving birth is the only choice. I was thinking of the second leads in Strangers Again, where having the child made no sense at all, but abortion was again a step too far.
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