Team Dramabeans: What we’re watching (February 4, 2023)
by DB Staff
So, what are we all watching this week?
What kept you reaching for more (or agonizing when there was no more), and what made you want to throw your remote through the screen? Time to weigh in…
missvictrix
Currently covering: Trolley, Strangers Again
Payback: “A true gangster always pays his debts.” A moment of silence for Jin-ho. RIP!
mistyisles
Currently covering: Crash Course in Romance
Through the Darkness: My biggest takeaway from our end-of-year festivities was that I needed to go back and watch this one (I’m honestly not even sure how it slipped past my radar when it aired!), so here I am, finally, and I loved the first couple of episodes. It’s pretty heavy to binge, though, so I’m intentionally pacing myself — which also means I’ll get to enjoy watching it for longer.
Authentic: The Story of Tablo: Technically, this is a listening to rather than a watching, but the storytelling of this podcast is so descriptive and riveting, it feels like you’re watching the story unfold. While I wouldn’t call myself more than an occasional casual listener of Epik High, for some reason what little I knew of Tablo’s story has always fascinated me. Now, halfway through the podcast, it fascinates, terrifies, and inspires me all at once. I highly recommend it — SO much research went into putting this together, and the host does a great job of delving into not just Tablo’s personal story, but also the social factors of what was going on in Korea at the time that influenced why people reacted the way they did.
DaebakGrits
Currently covering: Kokdu: Season of Deity
Crash Course in Romance: Been watching this drama since it first started airing, and I love it! So happy to see Jung Kyung-ho in another rom-com role, but I’m beyond ready for the romance part to kick it up a notch. I can’t wait for our favorite math teacher to start fretting over his budding feelings and how “wrong” they are because he thinks Haeng-sun is married. I hope the reveal that she’s single and totally free to mingle is epic and happens sooner rather than later.
Trolley: This drama has me on a roller coaster of emotions! I had my fingers crossed that our married couple wouldn’t be torn apart by whatever the plot gods had in store for them, but I should have known better. Maybe it’s because I’m typically more of a sucker for rom-coms that I was so invested in the strength and longevity of this couple, but even while they’re falling apart, I find their screen time more preferable to watch than whenever Seung-hee is on screen. My patience for Seung-hee and her mother is growing thinner and thinner with each episode, and I can’t wrap my head around her unceasing need for her mother’s approval.
Unit
Currently covering: Poong the Joseon Psychiatrist 2
Trolley: I almost believed that good politicians exist, but they had to reveal Joong-do’s true colors. Does the end justify his means? Definitely not. He has crossed all husband and fatherly lines, and I don’t know how Hye-joo is going to move past the betrayal. In the meantime, I’m going to need her to stop reacting to whatever is thrown her way and start acting. She’s a much stronger person than she gives herself credit for, and it’s time for her to put complete trust in herself — everyone else is undeserving of it — and take matters into her own hands.
Crash Course in Romance: Much ado about a belt! Haha! I need more of the Choi Chi-yeol embarrassing moments, and less of the pellets of doom and insecure students with their overbearing mums.
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1 miso
February 4, 2023 at 5:00 AM
ONGOING
Payback - I'm very curious what Yong managed to plan overnight against the Chairman.
Crash Course in Romance - I'm liking the pace of the romance and the humour.
Poong S2 - Laughed at the finale preview. They can't possibly be planning a S3, right? Right?
Can We Be Strangers? - I'm really struggling to pay attention to this show. CEO Hong's story was the most interesting for me.
STARTED
Kokdu: Season of Deity - This was very mediocre in Ep. 1 but became marginally better when Kokdu appeared. Giving it another week.
Had also started Bait till I realised this is another broken-in-the-middle drama and it now joins Island and The Glory on my refuse-to-watch-till-all-episodes-are-out list.
C-DRAMAS
Completed Meet Yourself, which was like a warm hug in drama form. I'll miss these people and this village. Be it writing, characters or performances, this was a near-perfect show.
Also binged Love in Time, the remake of Meet Me @ 1006. It was nice but felt less high-stakes than the original.
Started A League of Nobleman, which I'd been waiting for forever. So far so good.
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Reply1988 -❣️Mother Bean❣️
February 4, 2023 at 5:35 AM
‘They can't possibly be planning a S3, right? Right?’ 👈 Please, no. I want to watch the second season and see it wrap up well as it had so much potential but palace politics ruin season one. I do not want to wait even longer to watch the end they could have had in season one if they had kept it all neat and tidy from the start.
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miso
February 4, 2023 at 6:23 AM
I don't understand why they felt the need to make 22 episodes of this show to begin with so, like you, I'm fervently hoping it ends next week 🙏.
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Diana Hansen
February 4, 2023 at 5:54 PM
I am slogging through this because of the lead Kim min-jae and his side kick tough man who's name has slipped my mind but for me its the writing of a kindergartener. Oh there's danger, or a problem to solve but it gets solved almost before it happens. I feel whip lash coming on. Or boredom, or both. I enjoyed the first season which should have been the last one too.
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miso
February 4, 2023 at 8:45 PM
Yup it basically follows a 2-episode "create problem-solve problem-end on new problem" pattern that's boring and overdone. S1 should definitely have been the only one.
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♡Peach_Mochi♡
February 4, 2023 at 7:52 AM
Count me in for the Meet Yourself fan club. It’s been a joy to watch a drama with so much care and attention to detail in its writing, setting and performances. Forty episodes doesn’t seem like enough!
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miso
February 4, 2023 at 8:04 AM
That's exactly it. When it started I wasn't sure how a slice-of-life drama would fill 40 episodes but when it ended I just wanted to stay with these characters forever.
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♡Peach_Mochi♡
February 4, 2023 at 8:10 AM
Exactly! At a time when we’re bemoaning the trend of unnecessary second seasons, I could totally go for a second season of Meet Yourself because the characters and their lovely village have more stories to reveal.
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OldLawyer
February 4, 2023 at 12:05 PM
I totally second that motion.
OldLawyer
February 4, 2023 at 8:07 AM
I am intentionally watching MEET YOURSELF slowly. Some shows need to be savoured.
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tumblesunny
February 4, 2023 at 11:26 AM
I've been doing this too - I want to be able to enjoy each episode fully. When I'm in the mood for some background noise or distraction, I'll speed through some daily makjang or watch a drama I don't really feel attached to. This series however stays in my drama jewel box to take out and look at once in a while.
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OldLawyer
February 4, 2023 at 12:07 PM
A drama jewel box- I like that metaphor. Only a very few dramas would ever go there but that is the point- those shows are indeed gems.
Reply1988 -❣️Mother Bean❣️
February 4, 2023 at 8:37 AM
Yes, Meet yourself is a drama that could easily be multiple seasons because there are the stories of the leads marriage and children, and the new people who come into their lives such as the people who stay at the luxury homestead just as this season was focused on the residents at the original homestead. The four kids will continue to be a joy to watch as they grow up.
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♡Peach_Mochi♡
February 4, 2023 at 8:06 AM
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Firewife5
February 4, 2023 at 7:24 PM
I just started A League of Noblemen, and far I’m enjoying the setup and the production values are excellent.
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miso
February 4, 2023 at 8:49 PM
The production values were exactly what drew me in with the trailer so I've been waiting years for this to finally come out! Thankfully it's been living up to expectations.
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Nothingmuch
February 6, 2023 at 2:06 AM
Really enjoying this too.
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jessi
February 7, 2023 at 4:07 PM
I've been wondering whether I should watch Meet Me @ 10:06 after finishing Love In Time. I liked Love In Time but thought it overfocused on the romance and shortchanged the mystery/thriller elements as a result. And I love romance, so it's unusual for me to think there's too much of it.
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2 Dorotka
February 4, 2023 at 5:02 AM
Crash Course - I still don't like the killer subplot... and as a mom of a young adult on the spectrum I'm not fond of the way they present Uncle, nor do I like how Haengsun treats him (and that stalking part was ridiculous)... but... the moment the main couple appears on my screen I have this happy smile plastered on my face. Not because of any romance (it's not there yet anyway), I just enjoy their interactions, being it the belt chase 😂 or the pond scenery. And I love Chiyeol as a teacher.
Kokdu - I think my sense of humour and the sense of humour of the director/writer don't converge.
Strangers, on the other hand, have humour I appreciate (that Rebecca type of seat! 😄)... and I love all those little moments like Hara and Eunboem sharing a mandarin.
6-Byoukan no Kiseki: Hanabishi Mochizuki Seitaro no Yuutsu - I'm using my limited Japanese and google-translate to get the subs, because I'm curious about this drama about a family firework company. And Takahashi Issei, of course. I liked episode 1 enough to continue with the hard work. 💪
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Reply1988 -❣️Mother Bean❣️
February 4, 2023 at 5:27 AM
👆It must be good if you are doing all this work to watch it. I hope an official subbed version becomes available so you don't have to do the pick and mix approach for the duration.
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snancy
February 4, 2023 at 8:24 AM
@Dorotka, I recently retired as a college mental health counselor who worked with many, many students on the spectrum and wow, do I agree with you about the presentation of Uncle and the way Haengsun treats him. She HITS him! It's starting to seem like autistic spectrum is the new flavor of the month, without knowing what they are doing. And ugh, the stalking and jail!!!
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Makky
February 5, 2023 at 4:49 PM
I don't know, it feels to me like they are trying to show us that he is just a normal brother, and she doesn't treat him in a special way just because he is on the spectrum. The way she hits him is the way she would also hit her close friend.
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snancy
February 5, 2023 at 6:12 PM
@Makky, true, I do think they are trying to "normalize" his neurodivergence. And I know hitting is all over Kdramas. But hitting someone on the spectrum is not the same has hitting a close friend.
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Firewife5
February 4, 2023 at 7:28 PM
I think my sense of humor and your sense of humor may have more in common with each other than either of them do with the PD/writers sense of humor. 😆
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3 welh
February 4, 2023 at 5:02 AM
Movie:
HUNT (2022)
Fictional spy and corruption story set in early 1980s political turmoil in South Korea. The main story lines were convoluted and the main characters motivations not well developed to fit into their actions. The script tried to play out many twisty story arcs but more clarity and focus would have been better. It is one of those movies that tries to do too much. The reason is that this was the directorial debut of actor Lee Jung-Jae, who was also a co-writer and executive producer of the film. It ranked fourth in the 2022 Korean Box Office with 4.35 million tickets sold.
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4 books7time
February 4, 2023 at 5:02 AM
WOULD YOU LIKE A CUP OF COFFE? — Why did I wait to watch this? Why? It is a soothing, warm character piece that relaxes me to my bones. Also, this is why I watch Korean dramas: Character can be plot and the journey can be the payoff. It’s an amble where you happily walk to experience the walk, rather than a run to hike the heart rate.
SOMEDAY OR ONE DAY (TW) — This drama elicits squeals and gasps and many, many exclamations of “what?!”. The story is a twisty as I want it and balances the heartache and happy sublimely. And the chemistry! It is such that the looks are enough for me to want to look away (but not really) because these actors create an intimacy that is almost too painful.
I hear there is a Korean adaptation coming, which I am curious about. I do think everyone needs to see this original (first or after).
HIKARU NO GO (CH) —can you fall for a drama all over again? Yes, you can. I think I will every time I watch this. It is now available on YT and I scarfed the 36 episodes down.
The best sports, friendship, mentorship drama hands down that I can think of. Acting, writing, directing, editing—everyone is in top form and the synergy of all these pieces creates a coming-of-age tale that won’t let my heart go.
I WILL BE YOUR BLOOM (JP) —awkward English title notwithstanding, this is a sweet heart-warming drama from the first episode. And thankfully, it leaves the uncomfortable place of teacher-student relationship as quickly as possible. It is only to set up the main relationship and to propel the story. Huge sigh of relief.
Also, for a drama that follows an idol group making their way from a fall to disgrace, the music is believably good so far. Fascinating to see the Japanese idol system in a drama.
INTO THE RING (MEMORIALS) — This re-watch is a treat. I am not one who loves spirited FL for the sake of being spirited, but NANA plays this role with such delight and commitment that you wonder how anyone couldn’t fall for Gu Se Ra. Plus, when all characters are quirky in one way or another and the actors playing them are enjoying their work, I am in drama heaven. Finally, speaking of easy to love: Park Sung Hoon as Seo Gong Myung.
PSYCHOPATH’S DIARY—Listen, I fell for Yoon Shi Yoon in BIG HiT and never looked back. The ironic humor is to my taste, but the subject matter is a bit tough for me to handle. Despite that, I am struggling to write it off completely because I need to see Dong Shik victorious. It’s a dilemma.
P.S. I absolutely did not recognize Park Sung Hoon. I had to pick up my jaw when I found out this is the same actor in INTO THE RING. I really hope he has many, many good projects come his way (hopefully not one where he is a psychopath).
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Reply1988 -❣️Mother Bean❣️
February 4, 2023 at 5:30 AM
‘ WOULD YOU LIKE A CUP OF COFFE? — Why did I wait to watch this? Why?’ 👈 I get this feeling when I am find a beanie recommended show that I love and it saves me from the rubbish I had been settling for. So glad you have found this hidden gem let’s keep the fan club going so more people get to hear about it and can share the enjoyment.
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OldLawyer
February 4, 2023 at 8:15 AM
WOULD YOU LIKE A CUP OF COFFEE? is indeed a total gem. A gentle masterpiece.
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books7time
February 4, 2023 at 11:18 AM
That is exactly it.
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Dorotka
February 4, 2023 at 5:43 AM
Taiwan also released the One Day or Someday movie last December, I think.
I haven't seen it yet, but definitely plan to.
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books7time
February 4, 2023 at 11:17 AM
I am hesitant because from what I have heard it doesn't resolve loose ends so much as add more twists.
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snancy
February 4, 2023 at 7:36 AM
@books7time, I loved WOULD YOU LIKE A CUP OF COFFEE sooo much. Also loved MEMORIALS, and recently tried for the 3rd time to watch PSYCHOPATH but I need to recognize it's not for me and let it go. Did you see Park Sung Hoon in the Drama Special - NOTEBOOK OF MY EMBARRASSING DAYS? Loved him in that, too.
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books7time
February 4, 2023 at 11:14 AM
I did! It was the first thing I searched up after watching MEMORIALS the first time.
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ar_arguably romantic
February 4, 2023 at 10:05 AM
I LOLed when I was reading that you're watching Into the Ring and Psychopath Diary at the same time. The whiplash from nice, supportive male lead to psychopath who is out to frame our squishy Dong-shik!
He had a promising second lead role in Joseon Exorcist but the controversy around that project meant he wasted all that time and momentum acting in a project that got scrapped.
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books7time
February 4, 2023 at 11:16 AM
UGH. That project halted several promising careers. I am still salty about the fact that the actors (and other cast members) had to pay the price.
Yes, whiplash is right. It's probably why I am only watching MEMORIALS right now.
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5 Unaspirated
February 4, 2023 at 5:05 AM
Crash Course in Romance: Excited for more of this. There hasn’t really been any romance so far, so I’m ready for the first hints of that. But honestly, I’d love to see more of Chi-yeol and Hae-i bonding. She seems like she could use a father figure and I bet they’d be so sweet if they relaxed their tutor/student relationship slightly and had more of a mentor/mentee one.
Strangers Again: I liked both of our main characters this week! This is kind of a big deal. Were there still shady lawyering things happening? Obviously, but somehow it was easier to take when it was not the female lead and when the guy being threatened was such a waste of oxygen.
Payback: I’m not sure how I feel about our team splitting up, although I’m glad that Yong was at least out of prison when they did. I get the way the prosecutors feel, and I think just being a good prosecutor is the right goal for Tae-chun, but I loved them all working together. We’ll have to see what the new dynamics look like.
Goblin: I am finally watching this in an effort to be a better-educated Beanie and I already understand both the appeal and some of the objections. My perspective so far: Shin is like 1000 years old so there was always going to be an age gap. I’m going with it. This thing is highly addictive!
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6 Reply1988 -❣️Mother Bean❣️
February 4, 2023 at 5:16 AM
Strangers again
I am enjoying it now the anger and bitterness has been removed and the leads are on friendly terms.
Crash course in love
I have not gone back to the episodes I could not watch last week and will see what happens this week but it’s highly likely this is going to be on hold until it finishes airing.
Three bold siblings
I continue to watch this drama and hope they tone down the over the top elements once the truth behind the secret baby is revealed and the ex fiance shoots himself in the foot and is finally removed for good. Then we only have to watch the immature male lead’s sister grow up and the two ridiculously dramatic mother in laws can calm themselves down and become friends again as they enjoy the twins when they are born. Then the who is best grandmother wars can begin.
Meet yourself - Chinese slice of life romance
Last episodes will be watched today. This has been my main drama for the past week, I will miss the characters. The leads have a solid relationship. Lovely drama, the shots of the countryside have been full on PPL for Chinese village life.
The Lord of drama (2012)
Just started this one with it’s girl fights in front of the CEO and the usual power struggles it will be interesting to see which tropes from this era are still going strong. Good to see so many of the actors are still familiar faces in the current crop of dramas.
Looking for my replacement J drama so may have to go to Netflix for a month so I can watch Quartet as it came highly recommended.
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Linarrick
February 4, 2023 at 2:07 PM
With regards to Crash Course In Romance are you hesitant to keep watching because of the silly murder/stalker plot or because of other criticisms? I’m highly looking forward to next week’s episode because seeing Choi Chi-yeol falling in love is going to be hilarious and Jung Kyoung-ho has great comedic timing! The fact he’ll find out about the fake husband and be bummed is urghhh everything. I want him to feel the romance angst 😁
But obviously it’s up to you, if the show is not working for you, fair enough. There is always more dramas to watch 😊
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Reply1988 -❣️Mother Bean❣️
February 4, 2023 at 4:19 PM
It’s the competitive parents and jealous student which brings out feelings of frustration so I can not enjoy the humour or the romance unless I fast forward through both those plots. The two annoying sub plots are dropped in at regular intervals so the watching experience will be very disjointed.
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7 redfox
February 4, 2023 at 5:17 AM
is there any dear diary kinda stories. where a character is journaling and reflecting their experience
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missvictrix
February 4, 2023 at 5:23 AM
@redfox Ooo please email this question to hello @ dramabeans -- we would love to feature it in our Beanie Recs post! (Great question)
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redfox
February 4, 2023 at 6:11 AM
ok, I shall!
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Dorotka
February 4, 2023 at 5:50 AM
Recent It Might Be A Little Spicy Today (Recipe for Farewell) had a diary/blog type story telling. But it is not a romance. It's a healing drama about coming to terms with a terminally ill family member. Great drama.
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MikeyD signed up
February 4, 2023 at 6:57 AM
'My Liberation Notes' otherwise translates as 'My Liberation Diary' but there's not much diarizing going on in the series. Its there as a definite plot point but its used sparingly. A fair amount a internal monologue, though, if I recall correctly.
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8 Kafiyah Bello
February 4, 2023 at 5:20 AM
Trolley: SIGH, we were hoping for a solid married couple. Alas we have a political animal and the wife he manipulated.
Strangers Again: This week was so tame compared to last week's bombshells. Ha Ra's father is really gutter.
The interest of love: YESSSSSSS. If this was the end of the drama, I would be really happy. Soo Young, just going and living for herself. Going back to basics and lots of self care. I want only good things for her. If she comes back, I hope there is like a 2 year time jump.
Agency: I love the little team she has put together. I wonder what En Jung will tell her family.
Kokdu: Kokdu is hilarious.
Payback: I am a bit behind, but I can't wait to watch the trial.
Crash Course in Romance: Like a lot of beanies I don't see the romance. She gives real mom energy, so it is hard to see it yet. But excited to see what happend.
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February 4, 2023 at 6:04 AM
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Blue (@mayhemf)
February 4, 2023 at 6:28 AM
YYS made me feel so much pain. He cries and my heart aches. Gosh, that man can act.
We haven’t seen the recaps for recent episodes, have we?
I am not sure where the show will take us from here. I am happy she chose to leave all the toxicity (external and internal) and go find peace for herself. She can’t love anyone if she doesn’t love herself first. So, I am happy she chose this.
But my heart breaks for Sang Su. Wonder if they will get him back with Mi Gyeong. Hope not. I would rather all of them be single :) and happy.
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Kafiyah Bello
February 4, 2023 at 1:46 PM
Yess to all of them being single and happy.
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9 antonio83
February 4, 2023 at 5:33 AM
Someone let me know when in Korea they'll go back to producing romantic comedies without serial killers. 2023 looks as bad as 2022. I'm not asking for masterpieces like My Mister, but at least something funny and fluffy like My Roommate is a Gumhio or A Business Proposal!
Meanwhile I continue my idyll with Cdramaland watching Hi Venus, Delicious Romance, Mr Bad, Master of My Own and Midsummer is full of Love. Zero murders, lots of romance and lovable characters!
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thimble
February 4, 2023 at 8:47 AM
Well put. Rom-coms have taken a wrong turn.
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gdrama
February 4, 2023 at 9:10 AM
So true romance with fluff is a must for my mental health :-)
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Ruie
February 4, 2023 at 11:53 AM
Romcom is now 'romkillcom' because no murder no plot. On a serious note, I don't see this trend dying anytime soon (pun not intended). Its the same as trying to write a saegeuk without a palace politics. Never happens not even when zombies are involved.
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10 Kurama
February 4, 2023 at 6:09 AM
Brain Works I didn't watch the 7th episode... I think I dropped it.
Missing: The Other Side 2 I would have prefered they ended season 2 like season 1 with a real end to the story and not an open one like this >_<
Strangers Again It's kinda disapointing. I was hoping so much more with these actors.
The Interest of Love It's my favourite airing one. So painful to watch but really well produced.
Crash Course in Romance JKH's comedic timing is perfect!
Decoy The story is interesting but they pushed a little bit too much the filter cursor blue for the present and yellow for the past.
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11 jerrykuvira
February 4, 2023 at 6:10 AM
In the midst of all the confrontations and reveals in Red Balloon, one thing stood out - Cho Dae Goon and Guem Ah finally cross paths. Why was he crying alongside her? I know he could read the situation judging from seeing Nam-chul chase after her but to cry with her...?
Cho Eun-kang all glammed up is absolute answer to her douchebag in ep 1-4. Not that he was worthy of getting the answer anyway.
With the way their families have intertwined into each other, it's only a matter of time before every link gets revealed.
Dae Mul Ep 19 - Dang! Dang!! So the resignation threw a wrench in Kang Tae-san's plans. Her stint while serving as Governor Dao was impressive. At last, she is getting her hands dirty to play the game and that became the very leverage she uses against KTS.
One thing - Ha Do Ya is a pain in the ass. Before his grief, he was a pain. After his grief, as a normal reaction he is still a pain. I don't like it though. It's rash and hot-headed - in the wrong way.
Trolley - I'm not a party to Hye-joo's self-sacrifice to her detriment, and I was glad Yeon-seo help her accept Joong-do's POV. But what Joong-do turned to in ep 12 is something I don't understand. There better has to be more to the conversation that went down between Joong-do and Ji-hoon.
And whether or not the assault happened, I don't trust Soo-bin one bit.
Strangers Again - I like the bickering out leads bring to the table. CEO Hong is one good lawyer. Si-wook and Bi-chwi are providing some nice statements about modern and flexible.
Kokdu - I.don't.know.why.I'm.still.here. I feel like dropping this after the 3rd episode but I just want to hang on - KJH, Cha Chung-hwa and Kim In-kwon are doing great jobs that I can't look away.
Crash Course in Romance - Will this moms ever rest. I just want them on an all time adrenaline high that sends them on an all time low - one that stays for a very long time.
I didn't know Dan-ji was a bright kid. The good feelings about Hwang Bo-ra's character won't be in vain.
Thanks to the late subs, I couldn't watch Agency.
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ixion
February 4, 2023 at 9:20 AM
Re: Red Balloon - in a past episode, Geum Ah's father brags/scolds that if it hadn't been his intervention, she would have ended up being taken advantage of by the poor younger man that she claimed to be in love with. I think Cho Dae Gun was that younger guy, and that's why he recognized her when he saw her crying in his cab. When he turned on what must have been "their" song, it gets her attention and she recognizes him.
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12 Beverly
February 4, 2023 at 6:28 AM
Crash Course in Love: I love this one. Yes, I have quibbles but I spend my week looking forward to it.
Strangers Again: My feelings are more mixed about this one. While I'm not always clear on our leads motivation or even how much I like them I find I do really enjoy the actors.
I like the second lead, but his confession of love left me a little uneasy. It felt too soon and pushy? But at the same time he does have a right to be clear in what he wants in a relationship, so I don't know.
Avengers Social Club: this one surprised me. I thought it would be all caper like with a well thought out plan. Sort of Ocean's 11, but with revenge instead of robbery. But no. They have no clue how to do revenge, lol. If they hadn't allowed the step son to join I think they'd just be a social club.
I really want to try Meet Yourself. And thinking of watching Splish Splash Love soon.
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Blue (@mayhemf)
February 4, 2023 at 6:30 AM
Please do try Meet Yourself! It’s such a warm and heartwarming story.
I am slowing down my watch because I worry it will end 😇
And yay! Saturday! I get excited for weekends to come so I can watch Crash Romance!
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OldLawyer
February 4, 2023 at 8:30 AM
I do not usually have the self-discipline to intentionally slow watch a show but that is what I am also doing that with MEET YOURSELF. It is that good. I was able to do that with WOULD YOU LIKE A CUP OF COFFEE AS WELL and it was worth it.
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Reply1988 -❣️Mother Bean❣️
February 4, 2023 at 6:47 AM
Yes the Avengers social club was funny, as they needed the teen to show them how it’s done! They do get better in the end though.
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snancy
February 4, 2023 at 7:40 AM
I'm sure many folks have encouraged you to watch Splish Splash Love. So good!
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wheguhreh
February 4, 2023 at 12:25 PM
I had avoided Avengers Social Club for a long time and was pleasantly surprised when I watched it recently. I was against the stepson joining because, clearly, affluent middle-aged ahjummas don't know how to revenge and that's the point. I found it the redeeming quality that made it good rather than another tired drama about people dissatisfied with their lives.
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13 Lord Cobol (Kdramas, like water, flow downhill)
February 4, 2023 at 6:46 AM
Kokdu: Season of Deity: 7.0 Interesting contrast between this show about finally finding the one you are fated to be with vs that divorce lawyer show I'm also watching.
Crash Course In Romance: 7.5 Enjoying it so far, but it seems to want to trend in the wrong direction. I try to do the math to calculate the trajectory of various obsessed mothers, rumor-mongers, murderers, etc, and they want to add up to a downward spiral coming soon. Also, how many times per episode do they have to change those clean white pants that the ML is always wearing when he falls?
Payback: 7.0
Strangers Again: 7.5 Show is starting to remind me too much of things that have happened to people I used to know, and making me feel smart for staying safely single.
Bait (part 1): 5.0 Let There Be Light! Writer-nim rates about a 7.5, PD about 4.0 and the lighting guys 0.0 -- or should I say 💡.💡
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14 Midnight
February 4, 2023 at 6:47 AM
I finished PSYCHOPATH DIARY, and liked it very much. The last few episodes were rather messy and simplistic, but it wasn't bad. Yoon Shi Yoon is truly an exceptional actor, and I also liked how they portrayed the villain's character and motives. I also ignored the massive plothole of the son of the biggest company in the country being killed and nobody noticing.
I watched movie CRAZY ROMANCE, which was nothing special. Too much alcohol, mediocre story.
I am now watching BLIND and immensely enjoying Taecyon not being cool. Also, Ha Suk Jin is a very good actor but for me he has never had enough spark for a romantic lead. But I'm loving him in this role.
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15 MikeyD signed up
February 4, 2023 at 7:14 AM
Strangers Again and Kokdu are shaping up to be rather forgettable dramas, my viewing being driven largely by my nostalgic good will toward the two female leads. After all, Kang Sora was in Misaeng (called 'Incomplete Life' on Viki for some reason).
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miso
February 4, 2023 at 8:07 AM
There's actually an explanation for the name on the drama's Wikipedia page -
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16 kellie
February 4, 2023 at 7:47 AM
C-drama "The Knockout." The making of a crime godfather -- a walk on the low-life side. Impressive but not quite a knockout. I'd call it a TKO.
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Doppelganger
February 4, 2023 at 10:32 AM
I'm slow binging this right now and it's SO GOOD. A+ acting all around, but special shoutout to the godfather himself, Zhang Songwen, who is giving an acting masterclass.
I thought Lee Sungmin in Reborn Rich gave the best acting performance in recent memory, but Zhang Songwen's acting takes up one notch further.
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john
February 8, 2023 at 1:10 PM
I just started watching . It’s very well done, the way they transition between the two timelines is smooth. Enjoy the acting and characters, it’s believable. Really interesting watching the relationship between the cops and the fish monger.
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17 LaurenSophie
February 4, 2023 at 7:50 AM
TROLLEY: I appreciate the way that even as thy revealed Joong-do's imperfections he is still a complex, rounded character. Nevertheless, there's no real justification for the lies he's telling his wife. I'm convinced he loves her and truly believes his choices will benefit the greater good, but this is a hollow rationale and one that the show will surely expose as such. The only problem is that I am now so firmly rooting for Hye-joo that I can't bear the thought of how much pain this deception from the person she loves the most will cause her. As Unit, said, Hye-joo is stronger and more resilient than she believes, and I'm ready for her to unleash on those who blamed her for her rape or dismissed it as her fault anyway, and then make it clear to her husband that she's ready to go live her life without him if he doesn't make things right.
INTEREST OF LOVE: This show is back to frustrating the crap out of me. It's so well acted, shot, and directed that I've dismissed some of weaknesses for a while, but this week I finally had enough of the messy, ambiguous, and downright nonsensical characterizations. As dramatic and intense as it was to watch unfold, Soo-young and Gyung-pil's plan made absolutely no sense at all. Soo-young's father tells Sang-su that Soo-young's fault is that she puts others before herself, and Sang-su seems to believe every action she takes is to destroy every sandcastle of happiness that might appear in her life because she doesn't want to lose it (?). But neither one of those explanations fits the decision to set both Jeong-hyun and Sang-su loose by pretending she slept with Gang-pil, especially since she was so cruel and unapologetic to both. And then she has the gall to get sick and sad over how much pain she's causing? Please. This woman is toxic. She doesn't deserve Sang-su's love, mostly because she never treats him or his feelings with respect. If she were a man, and Sang-su a woman, I think we'd all be shouting "Girl, RUN!"
Her ghosting Sang-su at the end was entirely predictable but, once again, maddening. He is so devoted to her and YYS so compelling in this role that I want Sang-su to get what he wants, and that's clearly Soo-young. Yet the way the writers have portrayed her character makes me want him to want and have more for himself than someone who's constantly pushing him away, lying to him, or treating him with carefully cultivated indifferent silence.
As great as the actress playing her is, Mi-jeong is also ridiculous at this point. Yes, breakups hurt but my god, this woman is acting like she's the only person in the history of the world who ever dated a guy who didn't like her as much as she liked him. He was straight with her from the start about not being ready, but she bulldozed over and ignored his feelings, pushed him to take steps he wasn't ready for, and now says she will let him know if she can accept the breakup or not. Come on now. That's not how these things...
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LaurenSophie
February 4, 2023 at 7:57 AM
KOKDU: As I was watching, I got very distinct deja-vu tied to when I watched Cafe M. There's a drama I wanted to love because I adore the ML, and he is charming, but I can't stop mentally recasting the FL or enjoy the character herself. It doesn't help that the writing isn't strong, either. I've missed seeing KJH very much--he's so talented and compelling to watch in any role, but especially in comedic ones--but I guess I'll have to wait until his next project.
CRASH COURSE IN ROMANCE: I'm behind, but I continue to love this show. It has such a good vibe and although usually I'd get impatient with the lack of overt romance at this point, I'm loving the prickly yet affectionate connection between the leads.
FIRST LOVE: I'm about halfway through and really enjoying this. I love all the snowy scenes and the slow reveal of what happened in the past. This one has a simple plot but never feels tropey or predictable. I haven't seen very many jdramas, but this one is hands-down my favorite.
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Firewife5
February 4, 2023 at 7:44 PM
You have perfectly articulated my feelings about the FL in Kokdu. When I start mentally replaying scenes in my head with the FL responses and reactions playing out differently, it’s a clear sign I may not make it to the end of this drama.
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Hanamana
February 4, 2023 at 10:51 AM
Totally agree about Interest of love!!
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18 amfalulawatching
February 4, 2023 at 7:53 AM
I just can't keep up with the live watching! So, I went back and watched some older dramas:
Prison Playbook: I enjoyed this. I loved the quirky characters. I did watch on fast speed for many of the scenes outside the prison. I think these were just very long episodes for me.
High Kick (2006): One episode left! I have been watching this on and off for a few years. It is a sitcom, so the episodes are short and kinda dumb funny. I liked that it was a send up of traditional societal roles especially gender roles. There are many actors that get their start on this show as well as some veterans which makes it fun to watch. It is uneven for sure with the early episodes not nearly as funny as the middle. This was an early show for the writer who has since had some other really interesting shows. (Yumi's Cells, W, etc). This show is definitely not for everyone. You have to like sitcom style humor. I'm glad I watched.
Train To Busan: Enjoyed it
Some recent watches outside k-dramas have been the French drama, Call My Agent. With only a few episodes left, I'm really enjoying this drama. I also just watched the movie "Minority Report" (2002). I was surprised at how much I liked this movie. I think dystopian movies are really hard to made well, and this one just worked for me.
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19 OldLawyer
February 4, 2023 at 8:21 AM
I am actually enjoying STRANGERS AGAIN now that I have gotten used to the idea that the show’s conception of law, legal process, ethics and the actual practice of law is pure fantasy. I have decided, for future comfort in viewing “legal” shows, that there exists a special genre that is named Legal Fantasy- set in a world which only exists in the minds of Kdrama writers. While this show is not the promised romcom in any way it actually is a good drama in its exploration of marriage and marital relationships. There is a lot of truth in it.
My wife has continued to enjoy the second season of POONG: THE JOSEON PSYCHIATRIST and she enjoys BRAIN WORKS as well. She finished the Chinese Costume Drama RISE OF PHOENIXES (on Netflix) and thought that it was very well done. She also has enjoyed an English language costume drama in the form of the second (and final) season of THE SPANISH PRINCESS.
My wife and I also continue to watch the C-drama SHE AND HER PERFECT HUSBAND, which has been a very nice show. We have just a few episodes left to go.
Meanwhile my son, soon to leave for his new job, has taken advantage of my iQIYI subscription to watch the Chinese Costume Drama STRANGE TALES OF THE TANG DYNASTY. He loves it.
THREE BOLD SIBLINGS has not been as big a success as it could have been but there are moments when the talent of the writer does shine through and this last week’s episodes were quite fun Now that Soorim and Mooyoung are officially dating it is time for the next test: Mooyoung’s Ex (who is Shin Ji-hye’s mother) is coming to Korea to try to get Mooyoung back, despite what she did in the past- this is part of Soorim’s evil Ex’s plan. But when Ji-hye tries to recruit our ML’s pregnant aunt into helping with this what she hears back is not only no but that Ji-hye needs to be way more grateful to her father. This is what is known as a Big Hint- and I think that we have another Birth Secret on the way. Well, if YOUNG LADY AND GENTLEMAN could give us two amnesias then why not a weekender with two Birth Secrets? Poor Ji-hye- she is beginning to get a clue regarding Soorim’s evil Ex and now she is about to be hit with this. Frankly I prefer a second Birth Secret to an extra amnesia. Meanwhile we got a close call with a truck bus of doom at the end of episode 36, with the result that our pregnant will be moving in with her man after all. And evil Birth Secret Woman ended the 37th episode by revealing to our ML that he does not have a secret child after all- but only did so as revenge- because she thought that the ML’s nasty cousin had tipped off the cops who were raiding the gambling den where she was. Isn’t it lovely when the bad guys trip over each other? But not to worry, Soorim’s Evil Ex is still scheming so there is plenty of plot left, particularly with Ji-hye’s Baby Mama on her way back to Korea (cue the ‘Empire Theme’ from STAR WARS here).
PSA: For those who need some campiness in their viewing life I am pleased to...
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OldLawyer
February 4, 2023 at 8:23 AM
.... announce that MAIDS REVENGE is coming to Viki this week.
Finally, I have to confess that I am currently stuck part way through too many Chinese romcoms. In addition to HI VENUS I am currently watching SWEET TEETH, ROSE AND KNIGHT and SINCE I MET U. Another show that I am slowly savoring is MEET YOURSLF which I highly recommend (its not a romcom).
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darwi
February 6, 2023 at 1:02 PM
The spannish princess was fun. I enjoyed a bunch of costume drama like this one, The tudors and The white queen... they were fun.
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OldLawyer
February 6, 2023 at 6:59 PM
THE WHITE QUEEN was based upon a novel by the same author that gave us THE SPANISH PRINCESS. Both were really good.
The TUDORS was a very entertaining drama but terrible history.
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20 Linarrick
February 4, 2023 at 8:25 AM
CRASH COURSE IN ROMANCE (Ep 5&6)
Perfection, I’m covering my ears like a toddler to any criticisms of the show apart from the silly murder/stalker plot.
On a somewhat unrelated note: just went to see the Lunar New Year fireworks and this poor little sweet child covered their ears because the fireworks were too noisy 🥺
INTEREST OF LOVE (Ep 7&8)
How the hell did beanies wait a whole week after that cliffhanger from episode 8?!!
I had to quickly fast forward through episode 9 to get the context. I’m taking my time and savouring this drama. I don’t think I’ll see another one like is in a long time. Hands down my favourite show at the moment and probably for the year.
TROLLEY (Ep 11&12):
I’ve got nothing to say apart from I’m seriously addicted! So what was the final conversation between Joong-do and his son? Did Ji-hoon commit suicide or was he murdered? I actually want a whole episode dedicated to a flashback of Ji-hoon, he has been such a pivotal character to the plot but we barely know much about him. I want to see how things went down from his perspective
BAIT (Ep 1):
I’m actually glad this drama is being split in two parts, I’m still not ready for a thriller/ grim dark show yet. This is nothing against the series I actually think it’s quite good and seeing Jang Geun-seok again makes me super happy. But yeah I can only stomach one episode per week.
HIGHLY ANTICIPATING: OUR BLOOMING YOUTH
I know I shouldn’t have such high expectations but I can’t deny how expected I am!
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Linarrick
February 4, 2023 at 8:26 AM
*excited
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Linarrick
February 4, 2023 at 8:44 AM
CRASH COURSE IN ROMANCE
Sorry I just had to add with regards to Haeng-seon’s treatment of her brother, I’m also quite uncomfortable with it. Especially after the police incident we see Haeng-seon’s pain but Jae-woo was also traumatised by the incident and yet we don’t get to see his pain.
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ar_arguably romantic
February 4, 2023 at 10:23 AM
I think the leads are elevating the writing, which feels quite old school with everything in the world revolving around the OTP and how to bring them together. The Jae-woo incident is all about highlighting the FL's burdens. I'm glad ASD is being represented, but I don't like seeing Jae-woo always be an annoying burden when we're told that he is also quite independent.
I'm enjoying CCIR a lot, but I'm starting to notice how the writing isn't doing much with the side/supporting characters despite them being played by some great supporting actors and introducing them with just enough depth to make you invested.
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lulu88
February 5, 2023 at 4:28 PM
My hope is that Jae-woo masters waffle making and people line up for them, kindly and with patience. Saying this knowing show alluded to to it not happening.
Not happy with the production’s portrayal of autism spectrum. #2cents
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21 Kim Yoonmi
February 4, 2023 at 8:35 AM
Back yet again to post more Drama ideas for the Asian scriptwriters that follow this blog. Thanks for the last round requests.
What's worse than being the villaness or protagonist in a show? Being the Best friend that is required to agree with everything the protagonist does.
- The best friend gets minimum agency
- They have to agree with everything that their friend says even if the friend is making rotten decisions such as chasing a cold-hearted abusive guy that bullies them and there is a sweet Second Lead right there.
- They have to be an expert at relationships
Even though they are their best friend, they have to listen to "I have a friend" stories.
Chinese shows
- They are often stuck with overly lazy, overly destructive bumbling types for love interests, that they must put up with who are, if not a goofy character, straight up abusive that the MFL "rescues" (white the MFL's reltionship is marginally better I think it might be fun to have an actual relationship expert with real relationship advice go up against a plot where she has to give bad relationship advice such as "Get back with him." "But you like him."
- In Japanese shows, the character isn't allowed to change. They just nod, say yes, and blindly tell them words such as, "But you like him" and give measures of, "How do you know you like him?" But there are always thin expertise in those shows about relationships.
- Korean shows the best friend doesn't have a life outside of their best friend unless they are a love interest. No character arc. Forgettable a lot of the time. And often a "sex expert" compared to the female lead. Flip it.
If the Best friend isn't supportive, they are left to "take the guy from the Main female Lead" and thus become the "betrayer Best friend." If the Best friend gives good advice, they are destined to be forgotten. If they give bad advice, then the audience is meant to mock them and hate them.
Given the trend of Isekai, can the Best friend character who is FORCED to be supportive through the protag's often terrible and more terrible decisions to bossy love interest/fluffy-brain woman be turned around? Can that character say no to the chain of bad decisions and bail the protag and themselves out of the worst fate imaginable? Can you subvert the tropes around the Best Friend character? Is the Best Friend destined to be forgotten after the show is over with no life of their own?
And please pass the basic feminism tests: Mako Mori (has a goal other than romance), Bechdel (2 named women talk about something other than men) and Sexy Lamp (The character has agency and isn't there to be sexy). Be a good way to highlight feminism and question the genre.
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Kim Yoonmi
February 4, 2023 at 8:38 AM
IDEA 2: Specifically for Chinese scriptwriters that hang out here.
IDEA 2:
Chinese drama scenario: The emperor is a strict man by day, even a little sadistic to his courtiers, but when he meets a woman in the streets and gets hit hard/knocked to the ground, he finds that he has a masochistic side and *likes* it. This woman ends up being his wife, and seems docile, even subserviant by day, but by night becomes a dominatrix for the Emperor's own pleasure.
Real masochists often have to make a lot of decisions by day, so find it relaxing to be a masochist at night... so it's not far off. Both parties would have to consent, but the catch is being found out he has this kink as the Emperor would be awkward, no? Especially if he's pushed with concubines, etc who think he likes demure women.
I should note that sadomasichism is not all sexually explicit. It can be simple as someone makes orders and the other obeys. It can be bondage. It doesn't have to include hitting, etc, so one could get around some of the restrictions.
Probably would have to be a short series. I should note that usually with Sadomasichism, they figure out what the other likes slowly, plan it out slowly, try it out slowly, and then figure out a "big fantasy session". (which can be played out in the drama.) The Emperor's name (Maybe Kingdom too) probably should be fictional to get around censors... but it might be fun to play with.
You can play with gender dynamics, power dynamics, etc.
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22 thimble
February 4, 2023 at 8:41 AM
I finished up WINTER SONATA. Though I found the first half rough sledding, it then turned epic, like something out of a Greek tragedy. I can see now why this is a classic. The happy ending comes at considerable cost and the final scene will stay with me for a long long time.
DO YOU LIKE BRAHMS? (2020) Really like and respect this drama. The young performance artists are just at that point in their careers when they have to make agonizing personal and professional decisions and ask "Is it worth it?" I like how they are portrayed as normal people rather than histrionic weirdos like in another drama I saw. They struggle head-on with self-doubt, jealousy, and failure.There's the manipulation by people who feed off them. Some of the tension arises from the fact that classical musicians tend to form relationships with others who are at their level of talent and not outside it, which makes for a problematic romance between a top-tier pianist and a struggling violinist. The drama doesn't shy away from these realities.
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wheguhreh
February 4, 2023 at 12:31 PM
Big thumbs up on your Winter Sonata comment!
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23 TurtuallySarcastic
February 4, 2023 at 8:56 AM
Crash Course in Romance 👨🏫🍲(6/16): My teenage love triangle predictions seem to be more complicated than what the script is showing.😅 Hae-E and Sun-Jae are probably endgame, and Geon-Hu is a prop to bring them together. Ah well, they are not our protagonists, of course it is going to be simple.🤷♀️The waffle incident was a rough scene to watch, because as a person on the spectrum I identify with Jae-Woo. Some of his behavior was not acceptable because it crossed boundaries and I understand the barista being afraid as a result. However, an accused has a right to defend himself, so Jae-Woo should have received the communication and agency to try and set things right himself, with some help from his sister. It was upsetting to see him handcuffed, scared and confused in that cell while his sister was prostrating on his behalf in another room. She was trying to protect him, but the writing turned him into a prop and her into a martyr to draw sympathy from our ML and the viewers instead. Then again, I cannot expect miracles from South-Korea when even my own environment does not always understand me.🤷♀️
Fruits Basket (2019) Season 1🍙🐈(13/25): “I do not remember this from the older version.” “Oh, you will in a minute.” Me and my friend while watching this show. She always ends up being right, because it usually means a new zodiac member is about to show up. I must admit that I am feeling a bit smug, because the show is adding new stuff to the storyline of the older version, which means my friend cannot predict what is going to happen for much longer.😁
The Golden Girls Season 1👵👵👵👵(10/25):🎵Thank you for being a friend🎵I am continuing this one at a slower pace now, because my mind is occupied with real life and my other shows.😅
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24 hacja
February 4, 2023 at 9:20 AM
Since this is the third week in a row I’ve been watching revenge dramas, one might think I’m obsessed with vengeance. Actually, nothing could be further from the truth. I’ve been extraordinarily lucky in that all the wrongs and criminal committed against me have been small scale, and while some have been temporarily enraging, I don’t think I’d find much satisfaction even in punching the perpetrator in the nose. Plus it would make my hand hurt.
So why did I start watching the Taxi Driver? I blame Dramabeans highlighting of the promo for Taxi Driver Part II (not really, I'm joking) But after all, if there is a part II the original show must have been good, right? Unfortunately, I’m about 3/4s of the way through Part I, and it makes me think that Poong the Joseon Psychiatrist is more worthy of a Part II. In fact, couldn’t we have Poong the Joseon Taxi Driver instead of Part II of Taxi Driverr? There’s something a little tedious about watching Lee Je-hoon enacting vengeance 24/7, with only a small pause to do a few pullups and drink a protein supplement PPL.
One thing the movie has taught me is how to move through the queue in my local Starbucks, when the barista calls out “quintuple shot latte for Hacja.” For some reason the businesspeople in the morning all carry lead pipes, and when they swing them at me one after another as I make my way to the counter, I’ve learned how to dodge and weave, dispensing a few stunning blows. So Taxi Driver hasn’t all been about the empty vengeance. In fact, even though I can’t say I’m looking forward to Taxi Driver Part II, I do think it will be an educational experience. I’ve read that the pipe wielding thugs are going to attack Lee Je-Hoon in a ring rather than queuing up in a straight line. I hoping to learn how to fight my way out of the circular reasoning that I often encounter in student papers!
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25 ar_arguably romantic
February 4, 2023 at 10:00 AM
Crash Course in Romance : Our OTP just sparkle along with the kids (minus the mean ones). I'm getting giddy at Chi-yeol slowly catching romantic feelings and Haeng-seon friend-zoning/teacher-zoning him. I actually don't need them to get together. I just love watching them interact. I'm not feeling the jealous student, bad moms, and murder subplots though.
Poong, Joseon Psychiatrist (ep 5).: Was pretty good. The case was solved in one episode. Lots of time with our Gye Soo clinic coming together to help. The OTP giving me the squees with how cute they are when they're together! They look at each other with such affection that it makes me want to fall in love. Then it ended with the annoying royal clinic guy. Ugh.
Love in Time 2022 (done): I really enjoyed it! It wasn't quite love territory, but it's definitely one of the better cdramas I've watched with likable leads and good pacing. I think they resolved the time travel and the conservation of mass issue satisfactorily. The actors did well too. I think when the writing was getting unwieldy in a few places, there was a sincerity to their acting that helped ground the story and their actions.
Making the most of my iQiyi subscription this month.
My Lethal Man (up to ep 7, unlikely to continue): A series that makes me shout "WTF!", "WHAT!", "Come on!", and LOLing at how cheesy and soap-opera-y it is. I think this needs to be watched with a buddy. And omg, the excessive strangling and fearful trembling! And the weird rom-com moments! The face-smooth filters and lens flare! The ML's actor (who is 23) actually pulled off the domineering ML character (which a lot of young cdrama actors can't)
Hello There (up to ep 12): Half hour episodes. OTP on a journey to cure their respective troubles. Likeable and cute and fitting for my inner teen. Also LOL they added a hilarious masochist female side character. Good watch for decompressing before bedtime.
Your Sensibility My Destiny (up to ep 5, probably won't continue): Fraudster heroine meets prince who can't feel anything, except her! I like the characters, especially the quirky feel of the ML's servants, but story is sort of boring.
My Uncanny Destiny (up to ep 7, probably won't continue): Interesting setup with the princess being raised as a prince/king and then her getting amnesia at an enemy kingdom. But can't connect with the characters and acting (and i have a big tolerance for cheesy acting). I like the little sister and assassin couple.
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darwi
February 6, 2023 at 1:25 PM
My Lethal Man is so fun! You are right, it should be better to enjoy it with a friend. I quite enjoy this kind of absurdity.
For another young but with intense stare actor... have you seen Lighter and Princess ?
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ar_arguably romantic
February 6, 2023 at 5:31 PM
I haven't, but I'll have to check it out!
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