This drama made me ponder about some of the decisions made by k-drama writers on the plot thread that they're willing to die for. This is not the first time that I am scratching my head why the writers focusing on sudden growth of characters that we care nothing about (in this case Si Woo's father). The last minute lobotomy of Si Woo's dad did not sit well for me and it boggles my mind why the writer decided to spend so much precious screen time on this though this is not the first time kdrama tried so hard to redeem horrible characters just for the filial piety sentiment. I also dont get the much screen time and an almost total rehabilitation of the cheating couple. What is the writer trying to convey? It's okay to cheat as long as you repent? The friendship between the Hakyung and SiWoo with their respective exes were among the most bizare relationship development that I have witnessed in Kdrama. Especially after how horrible the break up was for Ha-Kyung and Kijoon was. I wish there will be a day that someone interview kdrama writers to ask why did they decide to focus on a plot that nobody cares about.

Despite all the glaring holes and some frustrating episodes, I have to admit that overall I do like this drama and what it's trying to convey (though the execution left a whole lot to be desired). It has been a soothing and low commitment watch for me which is what I really need in my life right now. At its best, I like the focus on the ordinary and mundane and the ups and down of the relationship. I enjoyed the chemistry of the cast especially the surprising bromance between SiWoo and DongHan.

This is not the first time that kdrama has failed its landing, so I am not too bitter about this drama's ending. I only regret the unrealized potential as it meandered to its finale. Better luck next time for Park Min Young and Song Kang. Their chemistry what kept me going and I will definitely check their next drama whenever that may be.

Penguin couple were my favorite. Main leads were my least favorite. We got almost naked Shi-woo in first or second episode and then nada for the rest of the show.

Is it my imagination or did Dong-han get really hunky about halfway through the show? In the first episodes, he's a bit beer bellied and double chinned. But about half way through he started looking like he'd been working out.

"They might not be perfect — and Ki-joon might still have growing up to do — but Yoo-jin and the baby will surely be the making of him. Their relationship might have started on a lot of misconceptions, but it’s nice to see them settle into a more realistic and mature relationship as the story ends."

Pure hogwash. This was such an infuriating arc. They both betrayed their long term partners horrifically. She never actually admitted to cheating or properly apologized (nor did she seem particularly guilty). He did, but also betrayed his partner physicall/emotionally/financially and stalked her, was violent and meddling with her new lover, generally had a toxic and fragile male ego (couldn't deal with his wife living with another man before? When they horrifically betrayed their partner?).

There is nothing even remotely mature and realistic about this. They did jack to attempt to redeem themselves (her in particular). Not that anything they could ever do would be enough. The show, meanwhile, is giving this relationship an imprimatur and basically declaring it "directionally correct". Probably counting on people not remembering the first two episodes (or a lot that followed, given his outrageous behavior). I find the notion that I should see what they did and did not do, and now root for them for a "I am sorry" (same goes for his abusive father) repulsive (as the people supporting this). Quite simply, narratively speaking, they don't deserve happiness, and it's insulting to see the main characters having trusting them with profound conversations, when they had just abused their trust so horribly. I would have been more than happy if they had actually reflected on what they gave up and understood their actions (and show seemed to go in that direction, realistically showing that horrifically destroying your partner -in her case to be with the first person that wanted to marry you-, does not lead to a happy outcome). The main characters are doing an injustice to all the people that treated them well, and to themselves, by treating their betrayers so well. It's unrealistic, insulting of the viewers' intelligence, wrecks suspension of disbelief.

The main point is that there is no accountability. This is not mature or realistic, it's the equivalent of an emotionally dependent child's preachy view of reality. A reality where adults with agency don't have to answer for their own actions. It's simply revolting that they would show us what they did in the first chapters, and later, and then expect us to root for this couple (from https://www.thereviewgeek.com/forecasting-loveandweather-s1review/: "The other problem here comes from the second couple of the show. After seeing Ki-Jun and Yu-Jin embrace their affair, this series has an utterly bizarre moral compass, deciding this is a couple we should root for. Not only that, but Ha-Kyung’s disdain for her ex starts to wane and they even end up becoming chummy later on down the line. I...

"his stupid job demands too much from him"

That's not really true, tough. There were a few times where he could have been there for his family and was not, and it was not essential for his work. Though, this is something I am fifty/fifty about, while the abusive father and traitorous couple's happy endings are revolting (as the people supporting them, which, thankfully for my trust in humanity, seem like they could be counted in one hand, 99% of people in forums understanding this bad writing for what it is).

"and Ki-joon might still have growing up to do"

Disturbing how he gets most of this, certainly not unexpected given his toxic male ego, but let's not forget that she did every scummy thing he did in the course of their affair, she is just never taken to task for it, and I think never apologized (not that it does any good, and I prefer brash honesty -not that she admitted to anything- to putting up a fake facade of decency and caring, and then horrifically betray his partner physically, emotionally and financially, stalk her, etc. like the second ML did).

Repulsive that the show would forego them realizing they messed up and realize what they lost, instead choosing to validate and lend its imprimatur to their relationship. To quote https://www.thereviewgeek.com/forecasting-loveandweather-s1review/

The other problem here comes from the second couple of the show. "After seeing Ki-Jun and Yu-Jin embrace their affair, this series has an utterly bizarre moral compass, deciding this is a couple we should root for."

On realism:

"Not only that, but Ha-Kyung’s disdain for her ex starts to wane and they even end up becoming chummy later on down the line. I know this is a bit of a spoiler but it’s important to note because a lot of people are likely to go into this and not understand how Ha-Kyung could forgive him."

And https://www.thereviewgeek.com/forecasting-loveandweather-s1e12review/

"I dunno about you guys but as someone who has actually been in Ha-Kyung’s position, walking in on their partner having sex with someone else, there’s no way I’d be eating lunch with them. The whole thing reeks of awkward writing... The other issue stems from how chummy Ha-Kyung and Ki-Jun are now. He had an affair on her and shattered her heart and while I understand they could act as civil acquaintances at work, I can’t see them sitting down and eating lunch together, acting like they’re friends again. Maybe it’s just me but the whole angle the writers are going for here doesn’t quite work."

I would actually not agree with the "being civil" part. After trying to take the house, and stalking her, he does not deserve ever that much.

A rather revolting ending for the second male lead and second female lead. They miscalculated. They should have had them break things off (as they had every chance to do: they were going to break it off with their partners anyway) without the cheating part. Giving the revolting manner the relationship started (and if one is not suffering from amnesia, it's impossible to forget the first episodes), it's simply farcical that they would expect us to root for them because of an "I am sorry" (which I believe involved only the second male lead -not that his entirely unimpressive persona is in any way rehabilitated in my eyes because of this: too little, too late-). I don't know which utterly demented nincompoop ever would. Actually, the fact that the viewing public has to have their intelligence insulted by seeing the protagonists get along with their cheating exes -which they caught in the act, and tried to mess with their finances and stalk them, in one case-, is kind of part of the problem.

I must say that while the male cheater is more vulgar and obviously unsuitable, it's pretty well balanced by the female cheater's lack of guilt or even acknowledgment of her actions (even when facing the woman whose life and emotional world she shattered). Disgusting, the both of them. Them getting together with their exes would have probably been the only worst outcome (then again, given how their self respect has been erased, particularly the female lead's starting from ep. 12/13, it would hardly make a difference). They did much worse than in Backstreet Rookie, for example. The exes getting a happy ending after doubling down on their relationship borne out of the cheating and casual disregard for their long term partners' hurt/humiliation, not showing them a shred of respect, is just insulting from a narrative point of view. By that point, the abusive father getting a happy ending as well finds the viewer numb.

I will just point out how useless it is to make a token attempt at social commentary with the pregnant career woman bit, when you give a happy ending to mr "I had sex in our house and bed in front of my partner of ten years with a woman in a long term relationship of her own, but I cannot accept the latter had lived with her boyfriend because it would hurt my male ego", and even have the strong female lead (incredible showing in the first chapters) essentially gaslight herself, victim blame herself, morally equivocate and drive the conversation to broader relationship unsuitability, which was not the point.

The solution to cat calling is not to tell the victim to dress more conservatively. Whether The dress is appropriate is wholly besides the point. Enter FL and the man-child with bruised male ego that betrayed her physically/emotionally/financially, stalked her, pretended she continued to help him with his own job while gaslighting her, etc. (same for ML and his gf or father... they are not the problem, those abusing or betraying them are). Not being perfect != you don't deserve to be loved. Unhappy != horrific betrayal/abuse != parting amicably. Her (and the ML, for that matter) being cordial and close, confiding in people that betrayed them so horrifically, shows a complete lack of self respect. And it's sad to see particularly a female character behave as if her ex's antics (the horrific betrayal and humiliation he heaped upon her, the physical/emotional/financial betrayal, where he tried messing with her money and taking the house from her, his stalking and jealousy and violent temper, and assumption that she help with his job while he gaslighted her -essentially, the complaint was that she worked -and did part of his job and paid for most of their expenses, might I add-, and therefore could not be always available... but then again, we see how much he thinks of his wife's work when it messes with his fragile male ego). Bye bye strong female lead, in other words. The spineless coward with no self respect that is left in her place is really not the same woman as in the beginning of the series.

The show had a good premises, but was crippled by bad writing/characterization, which we can narrow down to a lack of accountability. On one hand, the show had an utterly broken moral compass that wanted to push us to root for a toxic second couple that doubled down on their adultery, and an abusive father that treated his son as an ATM, giving them a happy ending. On the other side, the protagonists unrealistically self flagellate and become chummy with those that horrifically betrayed them, having conversations about very personal issues with people that abused their trust (particularly the initially strong female lead later on abandons all self respect). I found the idea repulsive (as anyone endorsing it). I appreciate the fact that looking at the forums 99.999% of people find this equally unrealistic and intellectually insulting, it restores my faith in humanity. In terms of redeeming the irredeemable, the issue with the father should be self evident, so let's look at the others.

The thing about the cheating is that it was entirely pointless (even more of an issue since they were planning to have us root for the cheaters later on). They were both ready to split up with their long term partners anyway, they could have literally just waited a bit and parted honestly. The guy had cancelled the wedding. Him having sex with his mistress in the house and bed he shared with his partner of 10 years was wholly unnecessary, as was his mistress cheating with him right before going to split up with her boyfriend. It just seem needlessly cruel and lacking the barest shred of respect for their partners.

The ex bf betrayed the FL physically, emotionally and financially (appliances and house). He also gaslighted her, after she helped him with his job and paid for most of their stuff, he had the gall to complain about basically her having a career, with obligations she didn't have any choice but to attend to, and for which she notified in advance and apologized... we know that he would sing a different tune if the roles were reversed, but then again we are speaking of someone that wanted his wife to give up her career because he was jealous to see her work in a place where she could meet her former boyfriend. He was a stalking, violent, drunk, possessive, self entitled creep. Up until almost the end he was whining due to his fragile male ego getting hurt by his wife having lived with another guy and the situation with their exes. He even dared to make compare with his ex this with what she felt when she walked in on him having sex with his lover in their house, on their bed. Plus the other faults during their relationship (the mess he did with the insurance, the way he was unsupportive of her profession, and pressured/resented her about obligations with her career that were outside her control... it was not her fault, she deserved better, a supporting partner).

The ex gf was at least as bad, in her own way. She didn't regret, feel guilty or...

I found ludicrous that he would mention being a bad boyfriend, but a good friend. He was a trash friend for the exact same reasons he was a trash boyfriend: he betrayed her trust and then, after breaking up, tried to mess with her financially, and behaved like a self absorbed, possessive, drunk, violent nuisance. And a stalker to boot.

I will add that they both chose cheaters to betray their partners with. In particular, the ex gf said she liked him because he was the first/only one that asked her to marry him. Someone in a ten years relationship that was willing to cheat on his long term girlfriend in their own bed. This is simply ridiculous. Couldn't she have broken up and chosen someone unattached who was also interested in marriage? I don't pretend a convoluted explanation, but I found "you were the first/only guy that asked me to marry him" to be really ridiculous.

The only couple I could fully support was the Penguin pair. I liked the ML and FL, particularly in the beginning, and I don’t really have as much of an issue with them as a couple, since I basically think that the marriage issue is something that could be dealt with down the line: they both want a stable, long term relationship. Maybe he will change idea regarding the marriage, maybe she will… I don’t see it as such a huge issue, particularly nowadays. It does not mean you cannot have a family, for example. I am confident that if they feel it’s an issue in the future they will break up with honesty, as they did in this show.

I *really* would have been happier without *some* of those happy endings. I felt that the cheating couples' relationship should have derailed, as if seemed to. It would have been much more realistic (she chose the first/only guy willing to marry her, who turned out to be an egotistical, possessive scumbag that had to be helped by his ex gf in his job, couldn't deal with her having had a boyfriend she lived with, or generally with their exes' situation -despite having literally no leg to stand on and complain, given he was the one that deliberately cheated with someone in a long term relationship, and slept with her on his and his girlfriend's bed)

A bit iffy regarding the old guy, mr Um... I feel the same way as with the stuntman guy in Once Again, meaning sympathetic on some level, but really irritated with what I see as essentially him messing up his own situation in unreasonable ways. The way he was the one mediating the situation in past chapters, was really unnecessary (plus the reveal of personal information), and I felt that this was not work related (if it was really unavoidable it would have been another story... for example, I am very supportive of FL's work obligations and felt that her ex bf was not nearly as supportive as he should have been, and put pressure on her).

I didn't really like the idea of the Penguin couple breaking up, and didn't think it made sense for them to. I was very supportive of them (basically my favorite couple, I really wished they had more screen time, and the breakup took time away from them, though ultimately they did end up together).

I mean, is it really a happy ending if it does not make me happy? Bad pun. But seriously, I could have done without some the adulterous couple being given essentially the imprimatur, despite their cheating being unnecessary and cruel, their reasons to be together particularly ludicrous (not being picky, but even in the context of a romcom, her choosing the first guy that would marry her despite him being in a 10 years relationship and about to marry someone else, rather than, I don't know, breaking up with her boyfriend and finding someone unattached -possibly not the kind of person that would betray his girlfriend of 10 years in their own house and in their own bed, in other words someone that could quality as a barely decent human being-). Also, don't get me started with the mess with his dad... never approved of FL trying to excuse his behavior, like ML even less for buying his hogwash, and generally the only thing I liked less was them being chummy with the traitors that emotionally scarred them -trusting someone with intimate and personal life details, when they had just utterly betrayed your unconditional trust-, or, for that matter, having a meeting at the bar and cordial conversations with those that cuckolded them about their current relationship with the other partner the adulterers sc***ed over. Absolutely none of this made sense, and was utterly disappointing given the confident, no bs attitude they had in the beginning, particularly the strong female lead. Not putting up with anyone's bs, setting down boundaries and expecting people to respect them, knowing what they are worth and pretending nothing less from those around them.