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Team Dramabeans: What we’re watching

So, what are we all watching this week?

What kept you reaching for more (or agonizing when there was no more), and what made you want to throw your remote through the screen? Time to weigh in…

stroopwafel

Mouse: I kept coming up with theories on who the true psychopath might be, but I’ve given up on trying to figure out what’s happening now. I’m also less invested in the show after finishing this week’s episodes. Is the philosophical argument nature or nurture, or is Mouse saying a hammer to the head is enough to change someone into a bird-killing psychopath? I don’t know and I’m not sure I care enough to find out.

 

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Vincenzo: I’m still watching this and am entertained, but honestly it’s not striking any emotional chords for me. If I stopped watching it I wouldn’t miss it, and I don’t like saying that about a drama. But what I am enjoying (darkish Song Joong-ki, those really cool/kickass moments that we end most episodes on, the zany ensemble) is keeping me tuning in. And now that we’re so many episodes in, maybe we will get some more advancement with our lawyer leads and that basement of gold? Don’t make us wait too long, Show.

Sisyphus: I’m so confuuuuuused! I’m enjoying all the crazy interconnectedness in this drama but they’re really starting to lose me when it comes to how many versions of each person exist, who knows what, and what’s even possible. The downside is that the drama doesn’t feel like it’s about the unexpected things that can happen in this story world — instead, it’s more like they’re making it up on the go. However, I did enjoy Tae-sool carrying around a floppy Seo-hae.

 

quirkycase

Currently recapping: Vincenzo

Beyond Evil: The plot is moving faster than I expected. I thought the whole drama would be focusing on the whodunnit aspect, but it looks like we’re going in a different direction with the second half. Crime shows often feel repetitive, so I’m glad this one keeps moving and shifting its focus.

Sisyphus: I hope Sigma gets more interesting because right now, he’s a little too stock villain. I kind of hoped we wouldn’t get a straight-up villain at all and would just have the different factions with conflicting goals. But if we are going with the villain angle, I’d at least like him to be somewhat compelling.

 
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Ongoing
River Where the Moon Rises - I had been fast-forwarding like crazy last week and was fully prepared to drop it. But Geon-Herbalist flirting dragged me back in again, damn it.

Sisyphus - Ep. 9 was still pretty exciting with the supremely nonsensical jailbreak but Ep. 10 was just...not. If you're planning to nuke a city, you don't send hundreds of missiles in advance. That's literally overkill and also gives your enemy time to retaliate! Also Future Seo-jin and Sigma are just so cartoonish and uninteresting.

Mouse - The deceptive editing and cuts in the show are A+. Every time you think you know what happened the show subverts it. I know we are supposed to think the whack on the head messed up Ba-reum but maybe bigger reveals are due including what Yo-han really meant when he called Ji-eun's son a murderer.

Beyond Evil - This show has gotten so much better since last week. The new spate of dead bodies at the deer farm coupled with the recurring deer motif means we are finally getting closer to endgame.

Vincenzo - A slightly less fun set of episodes last week. Couldn't shake the latent whiff of homophobia about the whole thing. Excellent cameo by Kim Sung-cheol though.

Next week
Looking forward to Navillera and Oh! Master (yes I refuse to call it Oh My Ladylord 😑).

C-dramas
None this week but I'm almost done with Faraway Wanderers (the novel) and will get back to Word of Honor soon.

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Beyond Evil. Predictable in many ways, but still an interesting watch!

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Yes the predictability was a definite hindrance to my enjoyment in the beginning. But the show has actually proved very assured in its world-building of Manyang/ Munju. So even if we get another murderer killed in prison or multiple serial killers, which we have seen before, the characters are elevating it.

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Beyond Evil - I'm confused. Why did Joowon planted evidences in chief's office? What did I miss?

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When he saw the Chief following Jae-yi in Busan and Jae-yi running away, he must have suspected (knew?) that Jae-yi saw the Chief at the station when Jin-mook died.
So he took a leaf out of Dong-sik's book by forcing an investigation into Jin-mook's death the same way Dong-sik had done by placing Min-jung's fingers in front of Jin-mook's shop.

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My thought as well. Our investigators are becoming darker; who will become the monster left standing at the end? Or will they both go down in flames?

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Where in the U.S. will Oh! Master (Oh, My Ladylord) be streaming? I've been looking, but no legit sites. Thanks.

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iQiyi!!!!

And they have it listed as Oh! Master so yeah there's no way I'm ever calling it by its other name cjjsjsks

Personally I prefer to call it Oh Jooinnim~

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Thank you Mindy. This means that my K-drama drought is over. OH JOOINNIM sounds good to me.

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LEE MIN KI AND NANA. THE LEADS FROM MY TWO FAVORITE DRAMAS OF ALL TIME. NOTHING CAN GO WRONG.

Right?

Riiiiight???

4 MORE DAYS

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Thank you for validating me 😄

I don't know why I can't reply to your other comment but yes of course nothing can go wrong with LMK and Nana 🥰. I am manifesting a fabulous rom-com 🧘‍♂️

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Noooo! What is the point of Kocowa when all the recent dramas have been licensed elsewhere.

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Remember seeing Yo-han burning/disposing of some DNA results? Remember seeing Yo-han's mother strangling the kid who was trying to bury his younger brother? And Yo-han saying "your son is a killer"?
Yo-han is NOT the son of the Head Hunter, Ba-Reum is.
And, in true Korean drama fashion, I think the Head Hunter's wife somehow switched babies with the other pregnant woman who was outside of Dr Lee's office and who said her baby had been tested for the psychopath/genius gene.

Even after trading the babies, I think she keeps track of her real child, believing he could be truly evil. The scene where we see her strangling the young boy who kills the dog and buries his brother in a grave? I think that's what she imagines she should have done to her real son when she hears the news of the death of the other family and she knows her 11 year old son did it.
At some point, maybe because he didn't want to believe it was true, Yo-han had a paternity test/DNA run. He knows that the Head Hunter is not his father, and his mother is not his biological mother.
He also knows that Ba-Reum is their true son: "Your son is a killer."
Ba-Reum, at this point, doesn't know who his true parents are but he knows that Yo-han is on to him being the killer, since Yo-han saw Ba-Reum right after he killed the Grandmother. This is guesswork and this show has fooled me before, but I think I'm on the right track with this part (that Ba-Reum fed the rat/mouse to the snake, killed his family, and is now a police officer/serial killer and Yo-han is a genius doctor who knows that Ba-Reum is the son of the Head Hunter and is a serial killer).

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and that is a mouth full or head turner

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I am looking forward to Navillera and Oh! Master (Oh! My Ladylord sound so silly, not gonna call it that either) as well. Hopefully they will reignite my interest in currently airing kdramas.

I've been watching Word of Honor this week and now waiting for the subtitles. Perhaps I should have waited for the show to finish before starting it.

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I just restarted Word of Honor and realised that the rate of subbing has slowed even more - from 4 episodes a week to 3. I'm also regretting not waiting for it to be fully subbed.

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Mouse (Episode 1-6) - Mood: B+ (1-2), B (3-4), B (5-6)
I’ve finally caught up to this show! My first impression was that this show reminded me of the film Minority Report with its discussion of the psychopath gene. The premiere week covered a lot of topics, ranging from the ethicality of eugenics, the nature vs nurture debate as well as the prevalence of the cycle of revenge. Watching on with excitement, I was slightly disappointed by a few things: victims doing silly things, selfish reporters being plot devices, live show was poorly written, Bong Yi confronting the killer herself. But Lee Hee Jun’s acting: YES, we deserve acting like this!

Beyond Evil (Episode 7-8) - Mood: B-
Oh, we’re playing ‘who murdered the murderer’ now? It appears that Jin Mook was a copycat killer and likely witness to the murders done in the past which is why he was silenced (he wouldn’t commit suicide when he’s waiting for his wife!). I remarked last week about character motivations and am delighted that the writer gave a solid backstory for Jin Mook, though it does feel a little disappointing that Joo Won appears to have no more secrets as per the pufferfish restaurant scene: please let me know if I interpreted that wrongly! Is this Yeo Jin Goo picking yet another boring lead role?

Sisyphus: The Myth (Episode 9-10) - Mood: C-
Going to an amusement park when you’ve just escaped from an assassination attempt? A crazy parent for an awkward plot device that forces Seo Hae’s mom to sacrifice herself? More meaningless sequences of Tae Sul’s making stuff that simply wastes screen time? A gun that’s not waterproof? Tae Sul’s phone being able to turn off the downloader? I didn’t even cover the butchered characterisation of Eddie and Hyun Gi! Despite the mess, we finally got 1 decent scene in the future where Seo Hae decides to fight against her fate. By the way, where has Bong Seon and Tae San disappeared to?

Hello? It's Me!: Didn’t have enough time to watch this week’s episodes :(
Vincenzo: Dropped, the hammy tonal quality wasn’t for me. Sorry Kwak Dong Yeon, I’ll see you in your next show.

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Mood factor has the most weightage and certainly encompass all other points of judgement and violent show should have gone stranger route than trying gore and young guy on rants. The other actor has done good acting job and that's what most so-called plastic face actors need to learn.

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Beyond Evil - don’t you think that YJG will face down his father at the end? That should be very dramatic.

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River: I'll continue watching. Now that Nam In Woo is actually interacting with everyone the transition is smoother. We moved away from a possible love triangle, thankfully. So we shall see. Nam In Woo is fine, but I'm reminded of Spartacus when the lead died of cancer, so they replaced him with another actor who did a good job, but you understand why the other guy was cast first.

Sisyphus: I don't know what is happening or why. I just know it is happening. I stopped trying to make sense of this a while ago. I will just continue to watch, lol. I am so oddly invested in this stupid drama,😅😅.

Vincenzo: It is still my happy pill despite the hiccups of last week. So here is hoping this week is better.

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I also get what you imply about JiSoo’s being casted int he fist place. I think he as doing a good job as On Dal and I like how sweet he was. I love how NIW has taken care of On Dal and I love the chemistry he shares with KSH, as they are lovely together, but I can’t stop thinking it may not be because of him but because os how On Dal is right now. I mean, JiSoo set the basis for this OnDal and as much as I appreciate NIW making the character his own way I still wonder how JiSoo would have done.

And as your twin I totally agree with you about Sisy and Vincenzo ☺️

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My thoughts exactly regarding Sisyphus🤣

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Ditto

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@Kafiyah bello on "River" I agree about understanding why Ji Soo was cast in the first place. While Nam In Woo is playing the On Dal character, On Dal has changed into someone less interesting to me. With Ji Soo, the character was intelligent and quite the nature boy, so at home in the woods and aware of things going on. He was someone who constantly wanted to learn. The new On Dal occasionally acts like a simpleton who would have barely passed middle school and much rather napped than learned. Trying to put Nam In Woo back at the episode where Ji Soo was digging the hole for a well, I just keep picturing NIW sitting there with his back to a tree, chewing on a long piece of grass daydreaming. But Ji Soo's On Dal was passionate about what he was doing and carrying a responsibility for the people in the village. This would probably be something to do with directing rather than acting, but I don't really know. I just know that I prefer the original On Dal at this point in time, though things could easily change.

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Exactly my thoughts!!

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I do understand what you mean about Ji-soo. When I see In-woo on screen, I think about how could this have been with Ji-soo. Too bad he screwed up.

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I still think something (we aren't sure what) that went on 20 years ago should have been brought up before or just left alone. Not murder.

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I didn't mean to update this. I vehemently disagree.

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Vincenzo: The writer is really good at setting up a gag throughout an episode, like with the recreation of the painting. So funny. The courtroom shenanigans were fun too. I had issues with the Kim Sung-cheol storyline, though he was great, but I do appreciate that the show gives us things like SJK on a horse.

Mouse: This show is brutal. That was quite an ending to Episode 6. This one can’t be a fake out. Lee Seung-gi even has a new hairstyle in the preview. A hair cut to signal a change in character? I have so many questions. Like why did Yo-han’s mom react like that to seeing Ba-reum?

Revolutionary Sisters: I see this comes from the writer of Liver Or Die, and it feels similar except in this one selfish siblings keep blaming their dad for ruining their lives instead of their older brother. This is the first drama to incorporate the pandemic, and I have to say, I prefer escapism to constantly being bothered by masks down around chins. I need Kim Kyung-nam’s character to cut his hair so I can tune out the awful sisters and watch him.

Love (Marriage & Divorce): The writer didn’t exactly make a case for people to tune in to Season 2 with that lame cliffhanger. I don’t care about the mistresses or their family drama. This drama is an example of why good ratings can be a double-edged sword.

Beyond Evil: Han Joo-won is the new Dong-sik. So there is another killer. Jeong-je is the obvious suspect with his mother and maybe the chief covering it up and Jin-mook putting the body in the wall. Or was it the chief with Jeong-je seeing/hearing something and going crazy. I'm going with the chief given who the actor is but who knows. It could be somebody else entirely, I guess.

Sisyphus: Another week that felt like filler. The storyline is a mess, the acting and directing is meh, and I don’t really care about the characters.

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Liver or Die?🤔 Now that could be a title for a makjag drama😂

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More than one more killer, I’ll bet. HJW’s father is extremely suspicious.

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Currently watching:

Mouse: Lee Hee Joon rocked the last few episodes specially episode 5 with his amazing performance. Mo Chi has definitely the most tragic storyline and he really managed to make me feel his despair, sadness and anger. I am really enjoying this show regardless of how heartbreaking and heavy it can get sometimes . This is what I signed up for, I just hope that the writers won't try to use the arch of JBR becoming a psycho because of the head injury it would be very lame IMO. For now, my theory is that Bareum is the serial killer since the beginning and he managed to frame Yo Han(who was investigating the murders) as the serial killer. I can't wait to see the next episodes, just hope show won't drag and become redundant with pointless cliffhangers like the end of episode 4. I just don't know if 20 eps is a good idea but who know they might prove me wrong.

Vincenzo: Once I've accepted that show doesn't have the serious and extremely dark tone (I tend to look in a show) and doesn't take itself seriously, I am really having fun watching and I'm starting to consider the show(as non sensical as it gets sometimes) as my highlight of the week-end.

Consider watching: Beyond Evil and maybe a light and fun drama I don't know yet I'm kinda in a "cute kdramas " slump

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LUCA: I dropped at episode 8 but went to check out the last 15 minutes to see how it ended. Yeah, no regrets on the drop.

The Rebel Prince (c-drama): One of the better C-dramas I've seen. I was thoroughly invested until the end; however, I did start skipping some scenes in the last 10 episodes. I was just over some of the political stuff.

The Sword and the Brocade: Wallace Chung as a tsundere works for me. I have no interest in the mystery which I believe was not a part of the original book. Enjoying the drama, but I see the angst of people who read the story.

Endeavor: (Amazon Prime) Apparently a new season got dropped last year and I didn't catch it. We are now up to 1970.

I am most looking forward to Jung Il Woo's new drama, I think Bonsal or something like that. The story looks interesting. Since I have finished up a long C-drama, I decided to check out a long k-drama, The Horse Doctor/King's Doctor which I've had on my list for a while. I am not afraid of the 50 episodes but I do have to be in the mood for the pacing.

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Jung Il-woo’s upcoming sageuk is entitled BOSSAM—STEALING FATE and will premiere May 1st. I am waiting to see if this MBN drama will be available on a legal streaming site in the US.
The teasers I have seen emphasis the comic and JIW looks great. I hope I will be able to watch it.

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Seo In Guk's new drama is coming in May, too. I can't wait. My smile is hurting my face it's so big.

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Same! We’ve been waiting almost three years...

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Yes! JIW looks surprisingly fine with facial hair. Hope this is good! After last year's drought, this year there's sageuks to my heart's content 😊

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saeguks are definitely my favorite! sound like it might be a better year this time

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Mouse & Beyond Evil: I was wondering why I'm so much more invested in Beyond Evil and not Mouse but I understand after reading stroopwafel and quirkycase's opinion.

Eventhough there are so many theories about Mouse, I find myself don't care about them. I even ask my friends to just share spoilers instead of waiting for me to watch episodes 5 to 6 and discuss them together.

On the other hand, Beyond Evil is somehow so much fun to watch, from the acting, the fact that Dongshik unpredictably knew who killed Kang Min Jeong and tried to gather (or semi-stage) the evidence/clues, to how the show feels super eery everytime I watch it. Everthing makes me root for Dongshik and even Han Ju won. And I don't find it in Mouse. I think I'll just drop Mouse now.

Love Alarm Season 2: It's hard to find a drama that can make me move on from Gyeommi's couple so was in search for a new (or old) romcom or melo drama. When season 1 was first aired, I dropped it after several episodes but the interesting season 2 trailer drawn me back so I finished watching season 1 before continuing with season 2.

The moments when Hye Yeong made his move towards Jojo in Season 1 were just beautiful and how their relationship built up in Season 2 totally hooked me. The way they care, support each other and learn from each other reminds me of Gyeommi's couple. Everything they do is just so sweet and subtle.
So yeah, this couple makes me move on from Gyeommi Couple, but not from Run On :)

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I’m binging Love alarm 1 for the same reason. Saw exactly 1.5 episodes when it first aired, and will finish the rest this weekend.

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River Where the Moon I like the new actor but I still don't like the main characters, they're like teenagers. In this kind of plot, it makes it a little bit ridiculous.

Sisyphus So many characters and each of them has a different purpose... It's hard to follow.

Mouse The last 2 episodes were so ridiculous with the TV show that I couldn't feel empathy for the main character when he lost his brother. For Ba-Reum, was he the killer since the beginning and Yo-Han protected him because he saved him in the past or it's the blows on his head that made him turning in a villain? I'm not sure to care...

Beyond Evil This show is like Mouse, the writer counted on the sensational and forgot the consistency and credibility. Those shows are lucky to have good actors.

Vincenzo Vincenzo and Cha-Young 🥰

Will You Leave Not incredible but still cute.

Off the Course The first episode was funny. I need to see the second one.

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In River we have the “teddy bear” couple that are the leads (so cute, so adorable, like kids in kindergarten) versus the “grizzly” couple that are hot general and hot herbalist that are hot and sexy and we need more of them!!!

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But the kids in kindergarten will have to lead an army...

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I see them better leading an army than sharing a bed and knowing it can be used for something more that sleeping on it...

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She didn't steal the right books.

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@kurama ...and I'm dead. 😂🤣

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Sadly, none of the current crop of shows have been able to hold my interest, so I've tapped into my Plan to Watch list....

Signal - engaging, engrossing, but really I'm still here for Lee Jae-hoons magnificent proboscis.

WWW Search rewatch - surprisingly, the show has aged like a fine wine. Excellent ensemble cast in a well-written look at modern life.

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Loved both dramas. And LJH's nose @beantown, let's be friends! 😘

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@flyingcolours Lets start a fan club... just for his nose!

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LJH's nose is fantastic! I wonder what it is that makes his such a work of art, but I find Lee Seung-gi's giant nose so distracting? And not in a good way. I guess, the heart wants what the heart wants...

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@cs IKR?! I spend most of LJH'S screentime ardently admiring 💋that finely drawn nose. I get you about LSG's nose , but his doesn't distract me as much as Lee Jon-suk's....I cannot see beyond the disastrous nose job

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I mourn the lost nose of Lee Jong-suk. The original could not have been worse than what he has now.

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Ohhh Signal!!! A masterpiece!!! I want to rewatch it, but too dark and sad and horrifying, but at the same time, so so so good.

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I get you about none of the currently running shows being interesting. Since Run On and Mr Queen, I haven't been able to muster up interest for any of the show and fallen back on older dramas on my list.

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@chillichocolate My sentiments, exactly! The only show I would add to your excellent list is a Japanese drama special, An No Ririkku: Sakuragi No Haiku Hajimetemimashita, a 2-part series about a young woman finding her voice as a Haiku poet.

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I loved WWW Search and it might be worth a rewatch. I keep waiting on another show from that writer.

Signal - I have not watched it but the current crop of dramas out there might send me on this journey.

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I loved WWW:Search, too I was still surprised by how much better it was the second time around.

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I long for spring... and summer... and better times... and that's perhaps why I'm mostly choosing cute shows to watch. 😊

And the winner in cuteness this week is a cdrama You Are My Hero. It is sooo CUUUUTE!! 😍 Really 🙂 There is a bit of Dr. Romantic flavour (a mentor in a hospital, emergency cases) and DOTS flavour (hero is a SWAT captain, heroine an intern/doctor, their worlds and views sometimes clash), but the series is completely its own - more down to earth (although suspension of disbelief is still here and there necessary), with more normal... and interesting... and funny... and cute characters (I especially love the SWAT members who might be experts on the field but who are completely clueless in love affairs 😁 ).

My Little Happiness - still cute. I have watched 20 episodes, but slowed down now because of My Hero.

Vincenzo can be sometimes cute... and sometimes not. I find the show generally unbalanced - sometimes I'm getting bored, sometimes I'm annoyed (I expected better handling of the gay aspect) and sometimes I'm highly entertained - like with that Covid testing during episode 7... or that Liberty painting 😂 Though... I'm still terribly missing Lawyer Dad.
(I'm also contemplating rewatching Kwak Dong Yeon's scenes in Never Twice. With the baby. Cuteness overload 😊💕)...

...what brings me to Waikiki - rewatch for me, first Korean drama for my boys. We are laughing a lot... and I'm melting from the overcuteness of Baby Sol 😍

Revolutionary Sisters - I tried. But after half an hour it made me so exhausted that I went back to My Hero. Also, I much much much prefer the actor as the Dad in Hello, It's Me (and his constant bickering with his Son 😀).

Hello, It's Me - I'm so happy for Jieun and Doyun! And they are so cute 😍💕 I can't choose who is cuter - them or our bickering duo Dad and Son. 🙂

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Your boys are in for such a treat! I loved Waikiki, its humor is truly universal!!

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I'm not always fan of the Korean toilet humour, but this sitcom really works for me.
(I can't wait for the car's scenes (Rebecca?) 😂 )

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WAIKIKI is a great comedy.

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Mr. sith the chad is another dump korean action drama where almost nothing clicks. How come these writers repeat the same product every year and why not audience just show them middle finger. Right now korean audience is taken for granted. That's all. i don't think any of the production house and broadcaster showing any glimpse of respecting the audience.

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Baby Sol and Joonki shenanigans are the best. My kids still say "kwenchana, kwenchana" at random times because of Waikiki 😂

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MY LITTLE HAPPINESS stays good to the end.

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CRICKET - good one https://twitter.com/MyCricketAus/status/1372094854356889601
1st April not anymore - Back for Test World Championship and later for T20 world cup.

Move to badminton.

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JAPAN -

Okada Kenshi won newcomer actor award. This guys has it in him to become a good actor.

My Daughter doesn't have a boyfriend - 7.5 out of 10. oh ho ho. Such a simple comedy drama could turn out to be so good turning around the cliches. Hamabe Minami's best tv drama role. Story is so simple and writer is well known. Presentation of this product is top notch. it gets into your heart and the gag element shines. Good compliment for a non-gag show. Characters actually nourish this story pretty well. There are several romantic pairs and yet Individualism keeps its flavour.
What a start for 2021.

My Story is long - 7/10 This show has its moments of glory. The biggest hihlight of the show is how story scores a homerun out of nowhere. Another highlight Jdorama of 2021.

There were some Japanese fluff nonsense - so dropped.

Sakuragi An's Haiku - 7 out of 10 - topnotch expressions.

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Where can I watch MY DAUGHTER DOESN'T HAVE A BOYFRIEND?

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@oldawyer

FYI, just a friendly hint. I am not sure how au fait you are with JDramas. SK Drama regulars need to beware going in that they do require a shift in lens. J Drama story telling, tropes, and formula is so different to SK Drama and that doesn't even scratch the difference in cultural norms and relationships or humour.

MY DAUGHTER DOESN'T HAVE A BOYFRIEND is very J in its humour and that style can take a bit of adjusting. If you are looking for an easier palette adjuster, as Cat-Oh-Cat calls it, "My Story is long" is a little easier transition.

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its available on all online illegal streaming sites as well as torrents - subtitles are on twitter as well subscene aka google the title and some streaming sites links will pop up.
and i completely agree with @screentime

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There are indeed very distinct style differences between J and K dramas - for instance much more openness about sex. I have just finished IN HOUSE MARRIAGE HONEY and there is not a single episode that does not show our newlyweds jumping into bed. The show stops well short of pornography but makes it very clear that they have a great sex life. I could not imagine a K-drama doing this. An yes the humor is also different.

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If I can't find the show thru my streaming sites, then I use any ad blocker browser and check the usual suspects, Dramac**l, Kissasi$n, etc. I will also haunt a few fansubbers that I like. Uchi no Musume Wa, Kareshi ga Dekenai is posted and subbed thru Ep. 9

@screentime and @catocat make an excellent point, but you are already bouncing between cdramas and kdramas, so doramas shouldn't be a problem, in no small part because youve already stepped outside of your cultural safe zone!

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STD - disgrace to be even called an action korean media. The male actor really did himself no good by joining this project.

Harpy sisters - weekend drama. my goto drama. The so called family dramas are rarely are one. Half a dozen couples that swarm for 50 episodes not make for one. 1st week was bad direction which reflects in choppy editing. Story has done actually good for these kinds of shows.
Sisters name alone made the point and it might frustrate others watching sisters do that to father but we already got some stats to factor in their actions. I say for a weekend drama the show's 1st week was good. Standard set by weekend dramas is so low that even this downbeat start is being taken as +ve.

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@flying tool I mostly not check comments and notifications but checked one of yours and yes i Did shared watched all episodes of Orphan's family. In my views Divorce Family was better direction but Orphan's had such a noble concept. Both shows in my eyes not deserve much appreciation.

As for general talk - I feel far more closer to these fictional characters than human beings. I ahd shared the same view in 2020 too. I feel much warmth and feelings for these fictional characters and this is 1 good reason to watch fictional dramas irrespective of demography. The passive-aggressive ordering someone not works and better change your character and learn to be progressive.

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Vincenzo: 9.5 I thought the act-like-zombies bit earlier was good just as a spoof of 800,000 other recent kdramas/kmovies, but even better in hindsight now that I know they were planning ahead.

Beyond Evil: 7.5

Times: 7.0

River Where the Moon Rises: 7.0 Fake marriage? Cohabitation hijinks? I don't know how I didn't see that coming.

Sisyphus: The Myth Amusement Park PPL: 8.0 Wow. Control Bureau finally found someone who can hit what he aims at!

Hello Me: 7.5 Lee Re is brilliant at times, but her character is just too irresponsible, even by kdrama standards... Some of it is so painfully embarrassing to watch that I just can't give it a very high score.

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Lee Re's character is impulsive, effervescent and self involved or unable to see the consequences ahead (like some teens). I'm loving her in this role.

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She is so, SO wonderful and I know I sound like a broken record at this point but I can't wait to see where her career goes in the next 10 years, by which she will hopefully be a bona fide star!

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My faithful browser tells me I've visited a best-practices essay by @missvictrix 5 times in the last year, and am I ever glad I did. In it she details the delicate science of Kdrama watching with an important piece of advice: have two streams of shows, live-watch and completed. If it weren't for my completed-show watchlist I'd be in a bone fide Kdrama slump right now.
Currently, I'm loving I Am Not A Robot; only watching one ep per day and reading Beanie comments to get that live-watch feel. I swear I will finish Signal next, except I fear I'm pretty much allergic to all time travel plots.
Live watching Vincenzo for the ensemble cast antics but I'm starting to lose interest.
Sysyphus has gone down the TKEM "too much world building and not enough heart" rabbit hole. I had hopes for Mouse but never made it through the first episode.
Asking all mavens, do you think Kdrama writers will break out of this dark dystopian ovre soon? Isn't a pandemic bad enough without the addition of nuclear armegeddon, serial killer DNA and corrupt justice systems? We Beanies should crowd-source some fresh writing ideas, purely out of self-interest.

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I do not know if I qualify as a maven but we are about to start NAVILLERA, and soon a new rom-com with Nana: OH MY MASTER (aka OH MY LADYLORD as the 'master' actually refers to Nana's character but the title OH MY LADY was previously taken by one of the best noona romances of all time}. So there is light and lightheartedness at the end of the tunnel- Netflix will post the first episode of NAVILLERA on Monday.

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Yes, Oh My Lady! I don’t generally like noona romance but this is the exception.

And I miss Chae Rim.

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Chae Rim is a vey good actress. She signed with an agency in 2018 and is now divorced- perhaps we will see her again in more mature roles.

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I hope so too but she has a young kid to look after...

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Sometimes I think people like watching misery more when they’re miserable so they can be like “well I may be stuck at home in a pandemic but at least I’m not being murdered by a psychopath in a dystopian future with zombies”

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Lol but that's probably true as, on the whole, ratings have been higher for the misery fests than the lighter fare.

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True to some extent- but they also like light and fluffy comedies during such times also.

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Hello, Me! isn't dystopian and is my happy throwback to more traditional K-drama plots. It does have a dash of time travel though. It's more enjoyable as it goes along.

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I LOVED I am Not a Robot! Notice that every woman in that show is strong and almost all of them are entrepreneurs/run their own businesses. I still don't understand why it wasn't popular in S Korea.

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KDRAMA

Vincenzo: Dropped. The humor just didn't do it for me, and I was getting annoyed rather than amused watching it.

Sisyphus: Like others, I've long given up trying to understand or be invested in what is going on. I am still watching for CSW, PSH, and Sung Dong-il (!!!!). It is what it is at this point.

CDRAMA
The Sword and the Brocade: boring as hell. I am still watching because Tan Songyun has such a beautiful smile in all er Mary-Sueishness, and there's something about Wallace Chung (and his wooden self) that I nevertheless find very compelling on the screen.

Word of Honor: Pretty good, as wuxia and BL stories go. Now we just need some concrete movement - ie Wen Ke Xing's real identity. The guessing game is stale now.

JDORAMA:
Oh My Boss! Koi was Bessatsu de : What a beautiful little gem of a drama. Ending wasn't perfect, but oh! a joy to watch from beginning to end.

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I loved Oh My Boss! Jun was such a cute puppy and Reiko was just awesome. I have to agree about the finale.

Have you tried the spinoff?

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No, not yet, but I am on it!

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Where can I find OH MY BOSS?

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Kis-My-Ft2 Fansub page

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River where the moon rises. I admit it. I like NIW as OnDal. He’s doing a really good job. And he and KSH are sooooooo cute together. I was worried I would feel awkward but I don’t. Even so, the drama is a little meh and I’m watching for Go Geon and Mo Yong. This week drama gave me almost everything I wanted from them: he looking for her to heal him, her nursing him, his longing looks, her casually crossing paths with him, he smiling at her and then saving her. I think he knows who she is but doesn’t care at all. He keeps saying he loves Princess but we all know whom his heart belongs. I doubt they will have a happy ending or that they both alive at the end of the drama (I have already wrote my alternative ending for them).

Sisyphus: The myth. Nothing makes sense, but CSW and PSH are fantastic together. I keep having 12 Monkeys vibes with the diary being the phonecall, and also Heroes as I keep repeating: Save the cheerleader (aka SeoHae) and save the world. Sigma is like Sylar, although I have no clue why he’s doing why he does.

Vincenzo. My happy pill. I don’t care how ridiculous and absurd this drama is, because I’m having so much fun watching. I cracked up during the rial scene on episode 7 and I enjoyed Kim Sung Cheol cameo so much. I know at some point the drama will have to turn dark because, let’s admit it, all the characters are shady but so far, I’m enjoying the ride. And, of course, I love Taec!!

Not yet 30. I’d really like to see if 2ML can finally become ML, it would be an interesting change in drama rules, but we’re on episode 8 of 15 and that doesn’t seem to be the case.

I’m also watching The Expanse and if you love sci-fi you shouldn’t miss it. This 5th season is so good I can only compare it to BSG.

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As always, I agree with you!!😍😊

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110% agree with you on everything, especially River where I find that I am more interested in the OTP than I was before, but first place is still for GoMoWall. Long live your fanfic!

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TIMES: (Ep 7-8): I guess the premise was not really time travel but a quantum ping pong game with four magical prototype smartphones. A chess match between people with future information relayed to the past players who then change their futures. The only rule has been that the relay date stays the same in both time periods. But the principled reporter stealing the smartphone so he can turn into a politician just to get revenge seems a little far fetched when he had other means. Our FL character is just a May pole for which the action goes around her; there has not been enough shown that she has the fortitude to make things right (or that she really wants to turn back time to the original fate of her father being killed to save others). The betrayals of everyone who sticks their toes into politics is the seediest part of the story.

Random Re-Watch: ON THE WAY TO THE AIRPORT: The best way to sum this up is "one slow burn, like the last embers of a camp fire."

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Oh, MISAENG please forgive me for passing you over for years now!
My goodness, I have learned my lesson to not assume I know what a drama will be from a quick judgment. From snippets of comments and the summary, I thought this drama would be too depressing. I had heard the the main hero suffers for much of the drama and it did not sound like my cup of tea.
Thank goodness, I was in the mood to try a new flavour of tea! In the best ways it reminds me of the ANSWER series because it shows the ordinary day-to-day lives of people and finds the extraordinary. Very quickly, these characters felt like they had stepped out of the real word. I could go on on about what sets MISAENG apart: phenomenal acting; subtle nuance in directing, editing and storytelling; unflinching look at workplace culture in Korea; organic humor; an underdog story; world building and character-building; team chemistry. And my favorite part so far....no one knows Geu-Rae's past as a Baduk prodigy. There is something that I love about it, perhaps that the writer could have used it as a short cut to make Geu-Rae earn his co-worker's trust. Instead, he has to earn their respect through the fog of false perceptions. And Geu-Rae thinks of his past as so shameful and painful--a raw, open wound--that it makes complete stoytelling sense for him to not bring it up. Just one detail, but an example of why this drama is a gem. I understand why it was beloved in its time.
But it can be heavy at times so for a bit of comic relief I am watching MASTER IN THE HOUSE. I love that it is as informative and fascinating as it is funny and delightful.

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Adding to your song of praise for Misaeng. I started watching and dropped it because it was just too close to the reality of work life. Lucky for me I picked it up again and became an acolyte. When I told my colleagues, "we need a rooftop conversation" they looked at me strangely. Taking a decidedly "unsexy" cubicle-land occupation and turning into a treatise on the joys and sorrows of work is a masterstroke of writing by Jung Yoon jung.

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I totally agree about MISAENG. Side bar. I watched MISAENG in 2019 while I was live watching WHEN THE CAMELLIA BLOOMS.
I couldn’t get over Kang Ha-neul’s performances. MISAENG is 4 years earlier and he had a smaller role but there might as well been 2 different actors in both dramas. Except for one time in MISAENG when he pursed his lips like he did in CAMELLIA I had trouble remembering he was the same actor in both dramas.

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Wait, Kang Ha-Neul is in Misaeng? How did I miss this? *puts Misaeng higher on watch list

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Yes he is. Very much so. You may be a couple episodes in when it hits you, hey, that’s KHN.
And recently to project so much gravitas in RIVER. He is amazing.

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I just completed a rewatch of Misaeng - and it only re-affirms its masterpiece status for me. I enjoy it even better than the first time round.

It does hit home too closely and over the years, I often recommend my staff especially the young and newbies to watch this drama. There are so many life lessons in there. Watching it one or two episodes a time is the right way to take in and reflect as well as enjoying the superb acting of the main and side characters in this great drama.

Lee Sung-min has turned Team leader Oh into a character that will stay with us for life. It’s also hugely satisfying to see the four actors-interns all become lead men / women in their own right including of course KHN whose character growth in Misaeng is certainly another highlight of this drama. Then others like KDM, PHJ and TIH all shine brightly in their respective works of Hospital Playlist, The World of The Married and Life. Even YJM cameoed in one episode. It’s a bit like watching Who’s Who.

Certainly, one of the top three in my book together with My Ahjusshi and Reply 1988.

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Mouse: I binged the first 4 episodes and was really excited to see ep. 5-6 on Thursdsay... Well, I wasn't super surprised when the ep. 4 ending was a red herring but the end of 6?? I'm with Stroopwafel. I don't think this show is as clever as I'm giving it credit, if a traumatic brain injury is going to change our rookie cop into a Psychopath. Now, if he's been hiding it all along, I'm willing to forgive. I also think there is a 3rd kid out there with the psychopath gene and I am waiting for that to be revealed. I have lots of theories... Probably all of them are wrong.
Bad Kids: To quote my husband, "What's up with watching all of these dark shows?" I've been meaning to watch this since it came out, but I'm not sure why I felt the need to layer it on top of Mouse and Sisyphus. This one may turn out to be the darkest of the bunch, because it is so much more believable.
Sisyphus: I'm hoping that next week we'll find out why things seem to jump around when Han Tae-sul gets shot. I was surprised how little we saw of Sigma this week, too.
Killing Eve: I mean, the hubby's not wrong about me being on a dark streak... I finally got to watch season 1 of this, and I already have season 2 ready to keep going. I love Sandra Oh and it's been great to remember what an amazing actress she is!
Hello Me: This show is so stinkin' cute! The one bright spot on my viewing schedule. I loved the make-over they gave grown-up Hani for the photo shoot. I'm so ready for her to ditch that fried hair-do. I'd love to see an alternative timeline where Appa survives the TOD, but where would that leave our OTP?
River Where the Moon Rises: I was nervous about the cast switching up, just because it can really mess up chemistry this far into a show. Well, I really love the new kid! I think ep. 9-10 have been the best ones so far and I'm actually excited to see more.

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My husband doesn't watch Asian dramas with me though he does watch anime with our teen. Snippets of conversations with Mr. Tsutsuloo from last week:

DAY 1
Him: Whatchoowatchin?
Me: Tengoku to Jigoku: Psychona futari. That Japanese series about an earnest lady detective who switches bodies with a male serial killer.
Him: Howzit going?
Me: It's tight! It's dark of course but has moments humor and warmth. Japanese shows are often more straightforward about sex too. The killer in the cop's body actually bones her roommate on his first day in her body.
Him: That's fun.

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Him: Whatchoowatchin?
Me: It's a Chinese series called New Face about a plastic surgeon who wakes up with a new face—a new body, really—and desperately tries to find the truth, while protecting his wife and child. Borrows many elements from that Nic Cage movie, Face/Off.
Him: That guy looks familiar.
Me: Yesssshhhh. That's Zhou Yiwei. He played the Hot General in Rebel Princess, 'member? Sex on legs?
Him: I'll be going now.

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Him: This looks different.
Me: Second season of Discovery of Witches. They've "time walked" back to Elizabethan times. Was waiting for it end before binging. Remember my complaining about this Australian actress playing an American with the flattest voice imaginable? But it's got Matthew Goode as the vampire. His voice is like a luxurious, warm bath. Sex on legs.
Him: Okay ...

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I second your thoughts on both Zhou Yiwei and Matthew Goode. Sex on legs, indeed. I loved the Discovery of Witches books, but haven't watched the series. Even my adoration of Matthew Goode's warm bath voice hasn't been enough yet to overcome all the bad reviews I've read. Perhaps, I've been to harsh and should give it a try.
*Quickly adds Tengoku to Jingo to watch list*

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Looking at my Netflix watch list alone, 70% is non-English. Looks like I've painted myself into an attention corner.😉

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Hahaha, oh, dear! I hope your equilibrium gets restored soon.

I don't even remember the last English show I watched. My Netflix watch list is 95% Asian, and the 5% English shows have been sitting there for years. I suspect they will not be touched in the foreseeable future, either.

I meant to ask, did you manage to complete Rebel Princess or did it fall by the same wayside?

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@dramafan12—I completed Rebel Princess with liberal fast-forwarding through the annoying-cousin-and-Helan Zhen arc. ;)

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If only, @dokutokunaneko. The roommate is male. The male serial killer in a woman's body jumped the male roommate. The original relationship was ambiguous—there's only one bed in the flat but it wasn't clear if the detective and her male roommate were lovers. She was always asking him to leave. And you never see the sleeping arrangements of the cloaked killer and the roommate. Was it a one time thing? Who knows. The killer does love his host body though. "I swoon every time I look in the mirror," he tells the detective.

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Finished Sunbae! It's so cuuuute and, for once in kdrama, it delivers a truly satisfying final episode. There's cuteness and romance, character growth, healing, and a little sendoff for every character. Really, Beanies, don't be put off by the first couple of episodes - I know, it looks like drama is going to be a 90's makjang medley, but it actually turns out to be nice and full of earnest decent people. And raincoats. Really, lots and lots of great raincoats.

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Great outfits indeed! Nice turtlenecks too! :p

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Turtlenecks! 💚

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You should consider it! :p

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I agree that this is one of the rare romances that actually got better as it went along. I thought the sneaky ex-boyfriend would get a lot more screen time, and was glad to see that he faded to the background. Just enough of him to get closure and see growth.

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Hello? It's Me! - The aunt with her schemes adds nothing to this show. This element in the drama is truly unnecessary. Everything else about this show works though!

Vincenzo - I don't know if this show is ever going to really go there, but given his mafia background, I'd like to see a Vincenzo who's a bit more ruthless. Totally enjoying the show as it is anyway.

Penthouse 2 - I think I've always seen actor Eom Ki-joon playing a villain and he's been quite good at it, but he's really taken it up a notch or two in this show. His Joo Dan-tae embraces an awfulness, cruelty and evilness that knows no bounds! The show continues with the craziness and I'm still hooked!

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Just as you said, sorry I didn't read your comment before. And yes, the Jang brothers have little redemption on their future. I still don't get where all the violence in JoonWoo comes from or what it's his purpose.

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“ Hello? It's Me! - The aunt with her schemes adds nothing to this show. This element in the drama is truly unnecessary. ”

Truth.

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*Youn Stay* I seldom watch variety but picked this up because of drama slump. It reminds me of Coffee Friends which I really enjoyed. Youn and Wooshik interactions with the guests in English are delightful to watch, while I think the other members are too 'stiff' for variety shows.
*Siphysus* Started 4 episodes and so far I am enjoying it. I am surprised PSH can kickass so well. Hope I can make this to the end, as I have dropped Vincenzo and Mouse.
*W* This is one hard Beanie to earn. Just like the first round, I have trouble finishing of the last few episodes. Really wished the drama had ended at Ep 12.
*Penthouse 2* Still my crack of the week.

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I wasn't planning on it, but started How to Be Thirty.. oh wow I could really do with more of these 20 min episode dramas. Less guilt on binge watching! Did you'll notice theres another hand on the poster? I'm eagerly waiting for the Episode 8 subs.. to see whether he answers her question honestly and if they break up. I like that the 3 girlfriends are the leads, and the men all feel like side characters, but how did they all date such terrible dudes in the past. Also its great that the FL is quick to initiate the relationship and confront him.. only we can see all the overthinking behind it.. but I hope shes learned from the past, and either sees this as a fling and continues to have fun, or just ends it in the next episode. There are few short relatable scenes like when shes reading her old webtoon draft and cringing. Its an okok drama so far, but lets see how it ends.

Planning to watch Off the Course.. have been looking forward to it. I don't feel like pressing play on any of the recently released dramas, and they've all zoomed ahead. Maybe Navillera or Oh! Master next week.

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This week was quite slow. I am only following two dramas- Sisyphus and Hello Me . I have not watched this week’s episodes of Sisyphus and I am not terribly interested in hitting play.
Against all my prediction I am still watching Hello me. I think this would be, my first completed Choi Kang-hee drama. I like most of the secondary characters except evil aunt and I am immensely enjoying bickering between father and son.

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Vincenzo: I wasn't sure what this show was going for at first but now I'm just here for the chaotic energy.

Mouse: Wow this show is dark and I love it. I can't trust anyone and my running theory is that Yo-han is being set up and Ba-reum has always been the real killer.

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1. Sisyphus (7/16) Somehow I picked it up again. I’m glad I did because Sun appeared on screen again in ep.7 and Sisyphus has never been the same. I’m hoping I gotta see him more in the next eps though. He shines so bright here. Dimples are a big plus.

Apart from dear little Sun, the cast is carrying the whole show. I feel sorry for them, but hopefully they can think of the project as a romantic action comedy. This is a more fitting description of the show. (Park Shin-hye is great here; she has great chemistry with both JSW and Sun.)

To-watch
1. Nevillera: Hopefully it’s watchable.
2. Oh Master: Beanies so hyped about this one I will give it a try. What draws me in the most is how pretty Nana is. Wow she is my girl crush. 😳

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