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Sisyphus: Episode 8

The true mastermind pulling the strings from the shadows is revealed, and our genius engineer will stop at nothing to find him. He hates the thought of being fooled for so long, but our time traveling warrior won’t let him risk his life for a personal vendetta. There are too many things at stake, but even if she disagrees with his mission, she will follow him until the bitter end.

 
EPISODE 8 RECAP

August 6, 2001. Sigma wakes up on the train tracks and flickers in front of Tae-san. He suddenly vanishes but then reappears a short distance away. While hobbling down the tracks, he picks up a rock, and Tae-san yells at him to explain who he is. Sigma turns around and stares before the incoming train allows him to escape.

Out on the streets, Sigma finds a passerby and smashes the rock against his head. He steals the man’s suit and cash, which is just enough to get him a small motel room for a few days. Once he settles in, Sigma checks his suitcase and the date. He takes out a horse racing newspaper, and the following day, he returns to the motel with a large wad of cash.

After making more money through horse racing, Sigma uses his earnings to buy stocks. He approaches fund manager Kim Dong-hyun and gives him specific instructions on what to buy and when to sell. Though skeptical at first, Dong-hyun does as he’s told, and soon enough, he becomes Sigma’s loyal follower.

Thus, when Sigma orders him to open a futures account, Dong-hyun follows through despite the risks. As expected, his boss lambastes him since the higherups are threatening to sue, but the whole office turns upside down as they watch the news of the September 11 attacks.

Sigma moves to a nice apartment, and Dong-hyun comes over to celebrate. He pledges his allegiance, and Sigma gives him more work: set up a meeting with IT investor Kim Han-yong. When Dong-hyun tries to persuade him out of it, Sigma tosses a wad of cash into the fire. Staring into the flames, he mutters, “Money burns easily. People do not.”

Chairman Kim agrees to meet with Sigma, but during their first meeting, Sigma takes out a can of fish and eats that instead of the restaurant’s food. Sigma mentions the chairman’s sick wife and places medicine on the table. He points out that the chairman has nothing to lose and leaves.

Despite his doubts, the chairman takes the medicine and gives it to his unconscious wife. Seo-jin arrives a moment later, and to both their disbelief, Mom moves her hand and wakes up. Not long after, the chairman meets with Sigma again, and the latter tells him to invest in Tae-sool. He informs the chairman that the medicine’s effect wears off in a month, but more will come if he listens.

Skipping ahead to the day of the company’s party, Sigma watches from the doorway as Tae-sool argues with his brother. While everyone else resumes their celebrations, Sigma waits outside, and Tae-san recognizes him. He demands answers from Sigma, but the guards drag him out.

Afterwards, Dong-hyun joins Sigma on the rooftop and wonders why he never smiles. He thanks Sigma again for turning his life around and brags about becoming a father. Filling in the silence, he asks how he knows everything, but Sigma does not answer.

Dong-hyun looks over the city, marveling at the view, and Sigma finally speaks. With a smile, he says, “Enjoy it while you can. Everything will burn down soon. Everyone will die soon. Everyone.”

Present-day: September 20, 2020. Dong-hyun runs through the streets, clutching onto some documents, and trips. He quickly gathers his things and hides in an alley. He calls his wife to tell her to leave the country with their son and says that he needs to warn Tae-sool not to meet that person. After hanging up, he steps onto the road, and a car hurtles towards him.

In his house, Tae-sool uses a facial recognition program to find Sigma, but so far, nothing pops up. He blames Tae-san’s poor photography skills for the lack of results and refuses to give up. Looking worried, Seo-hae asks him to stop, and Tae-sool mistakes her comment for fear.

Tae-sool assures Seo-hae that the Control Bureau cannot hurt him, but she was talking about Sigma. She reminds him of their goal to keep the world safe, but Tae-sool will not stop his search for something that has not even happened. She calls him selfish, blaming him for the death of millions including her mom, but Tae-sool yells back at her since he has done nothing.

He explains how Sigma has been manipulating his brother and him from the beginning, but Seo-hae argues that this is all still part of Sigma’s plan. She says that if he keeps chasing Sigma then he will die. She tells him that he dies on October 31, and Tae-sool lets out a small laugh, “There’s a lot of time left.”

The computer beeps, notifying Tae-sool of his search results, and he finds Sigma’s face in an old article. As they head out, Sun waves at Seo-hae from his car, and Tae-sool scoffs at her fanboy. Unamused by Sun’s antics, Seo-hae tells him to leave, but Sun wants to stick around and tells her to be careful.

During the car ride, Tae-sool tells Seo-hae about Dong-hyun, a legendary fund manager turned millionaire who hung around Sigma. Seo-hae asks if they are going to meet him right now, but Tae-sool says that they cannot because Dong-hyun died last week in an accident.

Officer Hwang gives Hyun-gi some tips when it comes to interrogating time travelers: everything they say is a lie. While they walk past the holding cells, Officer Hwang stops in front of a bloody door and orders his men to open it. Mr. Park looks up at his guests, and Officer Hwang smiles in recognition.

They escort Mr. Park to an interrogation room where Hyun-gi punches him in the face. Officer Hwang says that they are honored to have such a famous prisoner, and he chuckles along with Mr. Park—both of them commenting on how much they have aged.

Officer Choi reads Mr. Park’s profile and calls him lucky for avoiding the nuclear war while imprisoned for murder. He laughs when he finds a picture of Mr. Park’s family and threatens to visit them. Mr. Park snickers and mockingly replies, “I can visit your family, too.”

After knocking Mr. Park unconscious, the Control Bureau holds a meeting about Tae-sool and Seo-hae. For the time being, Officer Hwang wants them to only monitor Tae-sool, but for the girl, he demands her capture. He dismisses everyone, and Hyun-gi bows in thanks before leaving.

Tae-sool and Seo-hae visit Dong-hyun’s wife and show her a picture of Sigma. She recognizes him as her husband’s acquaintance and tells them that he came to their house for the second time last week. She remembers her husband fighting with Sigma since that was the night he died.

Though she knows nothing about Sigma, she recalls a terrifying painting he gifted the family and brings it out for them to see. It is a depiction of Seoul engulfed in flames, and Seo-hae asks if Tae-sool is still curious about what the future looks like.

With a picture of the painting, Tae-sool deduces the angle from which Sigma must have seen the city, and he leads Seo-hae to a building. They end up in front of a room, but before breaking in, Seo-hae makes Tae-sool promise to hide if things get dangerous. He says that hiding is his specialty, but Seo-hae isn’t joking around.

After he glumly agrees, Tae-sool looks at the keypad and notices something odd. He thinks the buttons were never touched, and testing out his theory, he grabs the handle. The door opens, and the two of them sneak inside the unlocked room.

They find another painting in the corner, and Tae-sool identities it as a depiction of Sisyphus, the eternal sinner in Greek mythology. He realizes the meaning behind Sigma, but before he can elaborate, they hear the door open behind them.

Someone stands outside, but as if aware of the intruders, he slams the door shut and runs. Tae-sool chases after him with Seo-hae coming in the rear, and they follow him outside. Tae-sool spots a suspicious figure on the groun, but when he grabs the man, it isn’t Sigma but another time traveler.

The time traveler pulls out a knife, but Seo-hae jumps in between them and grabs the blade. While they tussle, Seo-hae spots a sigma drawn on the ground and looks up just as a pile of bricks falls towards her. Tae-sool notices the danger as well and pushes her out of the way just in time.

He takes her back to his place where he treats her wounds and holds her hand while she rests. Tae-sool steps out for some fresh air, and Sun grabs him, asking what happened to Seo-hae. He wants to know why she risks her life for someone like Tae-sool and blames him for putting her in danger.

Tae-sool tells him that Seo-hae is acting on her own accord to save her mom, so if he hates it, then he needs to bring it up with her directly. Sun admits to his own uselessness since she refuses to listen to him, but Tae-sool has no sympathy for the younger man and brushes him aside.

While thinking of Sigma, Tae-sool becomes curious about Seo-hae and looks her up on online. Multiple posts about little Seo-hae and her family pops up, and he watches one of the videos of her learning to ride a bike. He stays up all night looking through the stuff and learns that today (September 30th) is her birthday.

Sometime in the future, Seo-hae celebrates her birthday by herself and picks out presents at the abandoned amusement park. She sits in the carousel—pretending it works—and finds the Viking which she always wanted to ride.

Seo-hae takes a seat by some dead bodies and finds a bag of chips in their backpack. With a sigh, she tells her new friends about the last time she was here with her mom. Suddenly, the bushes rustle, and Seo-hae whips out her gun.

She inches her way towards the sound, but it’s only a rabbit. She tells herself to shoot, but before she pulls the trigger, a wolf jumps past her and steals her prey. Seo-hae returns to their base without any meat, but she at least found some chips to share with her dad.

While they eat, Seo-hae looks worried about her dad’s sickly appearance and checks on his wound which is now infected. They ran out of antibiotics, so Seo-hae dons her gear again to get him medicine. He warns her against infiltrating the hospital alone, but she points out that she will end up by herself anyways if he dies.

After scoping out the area, Seo-hae uses her grappling hook to land on the hospital roof and goes through the vents to avoid detection. She finds the storage room and waits until the worker leaves to look for antibiotics.

Unfortunately, the labels are written in English, and Seo-hae fails to find the medicine before the worker returns. The worker aims her gun at Seo-hae, but she clearly has no idea what she’s doing as she orders Seo-hae to turn around but freaks out when she moves. Using her quick reflexes, Seo-hae steals the gun away from the worker and forces her to hand over the antibiotics.

The worker gives Seo-hae the bottles, but at that moment, a guard comes up and spots the two of them. Despite the worker’s pleas, the guard shoots, and Seo-hae takes cover behind a door—the worker was not as fortunate.

Seo-hae shoots the guards coming up the stairs and jumps down multiple floors while taking down even more of their numbers. The alarm blares, and all the hospital guards run around looking for the intruder. Seo-hae does not get very far before the guards spot her, but she easily takes them down with her gun. One guard tackles her, but she flips him over and kills him, too.

With too many people chasing after her, Seo-hae shoots at the glass elevator and jumps from at least the third floor to the ground. She escapes to the forested area outside but falls through a door, leading her inside another building. She points her gun at the opening, but the guards stop their pursuit when they hear growls coming from the trees.

Once she feels safe, Seo-hae checks on the medicine and sighs in relief. She winces in pain at the scratches on her arm, but finds comfort in the family picture stored in her locket. She wipes away her tears and lets her tired body rest.

Seo-hae jolts awake when she hears something nearby, but nothing more than a flock of birds flies passed her. Checking the time, she realizes that she slept all day and climbs up to the surface. She follows her map back home, but wading through the dense reeds, Seo-hae ends up on a cliff overlooking the city. Explaining the door on the ground, the camera pans away revealing a toppled building.

Seo-hae notices a grave and underneath the rocks is the pink diary. She reads the first entry and looks back at the grave in fear. Removing the rocks, she lifts the cover and finds two skeletons inside. When she reaches down, one of the skeletons flickers and memories of her time traveling flood her mind.

The rest of the diary entries are too faded to read, but the orders on the first page are clear: ride the uploader to the past and save Tae-sool. As Seo-hae flips through the pages, the wedding photo falls out, and she whispers Tae-sool’s name. Her final request to herself is protecting the person she loves, and Seo-hae stares at the picture of the two of them.

 
COMMENTS

One thing I like about the show is its set design. Tae-sool’s house is gorgeous, but what’s really breathtaking is the scale of and details put into the future scenes. There is a haunting quality to the future that is mostly conveyed through the setting. The overgrown flora signals to the audience that a lot of time has passed, yet despite all the plant life in the area, the destruction of the city still present throughout the scene makes the world feel hopeless and empty. However, there is a contrast to the future we see which is full of greens, and the one Sigma paints which is washed in reds.

Though both settings portray a destroyed world, a clear difference also exists. The future we see with Seo-hae is still one of sadness, but at the same time, life still exists. It is also a depiction of what happens after the war—the consequences. However, Sigma’s future seems to be stuck at the moment of destruction and flames. Instead of the aftermath, he lives in the impact when the world was burning all around him. This contrast may explain why these two characters stand on opposite sides of this battle. Seo-hae wants to save everyone by stopping the war because she knows what it feels like to live in a place without hope, but Sigma seems to not care about fighting for a better future. In fact, the only time he smiles is when he talks about the world ending, which makes it seem like he wants to see everything burn.

While I adore Kim Byung-chul, I’m not a huge fan of the enigmatic Sigma. Thankfully, he is more competent than the entire Control Bureau combined, but so far, he’s a bit too quirky without enough depth. Inadvertently, Sigma comes across as strange rather than dangerous, which is a bit worrisome given the show’s track record with its antagonists. I don’t want Sigma reduced to a cartoonish super villain who simply wants the world to turn to ash, and hopefully, the creators will develop the character more instead of keeping him a mysterious figure until the end just for the sake of having a twist. Similarly, I want the show to make me care about Seo-hae as a person, and in that regard, it would be nice to see them stop portraying her as some superhero if they aren’t going to explain why she’s so much better than her opponents. I like strong female leads, but the show is making her too amazing and her feats come across as plot armor rather than the results of her own abilities.

The entire action sequence in the hospital fell flat, and the editing choices did not help. They made Seo-hae jump down multiple floors without even a proper roll and landing. To make matters worse, the guards rarely shoot at her even when she is in their line of view. The creators are more preoccupied with showing multiple shots of guards chasing after Seo-hae from all over the place to emphasize the odds against her, but the directors should have spent more time making the chase feel intense and meaningful. There’s too much empty space and wasted time in the action scenes, which sucks away the tension. Maybe in better hands, Sisyphus could have been a thrilling, action-packed, sci-fi romance, but right now, it feels like the show is trying to be too many things at once.

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The hospitals scenes were hilarious. The air duct was the cleanest air duct in the history of ever. The doctor/nurse gave her a dosage of antibiotics without knowing the actual problem. The guards shot indiscriminately at everything except her. The whole sequence was so bad. She then proceeded to stay out the whole night, sleeping, and part of the next day walking around fully knowing her dad was worried about her. Finally, fate and coincidence led her to maybe her body, her notebook, and memories she couldn't have because they didn't happen. Whew, when writes wants to get to a point, the writer writes it without thought to execution, lol. Yet I will still watch.

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Hahaha. I still watch too 🤣.

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Good luck watching. I gave up (I wrote the reason down there, in #3).

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I gave up at the end of ep4. No amount of pink stuff on the FL could have persuaded me otherwise.

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So, how “filled out” was the script when the leads signed on?

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Dad was not just worried, he was suffering from a gut wound which ... hmmm...after My Country I should know gut wounds aren’t dangerous .

Oh well, the explanation for our heroine’s super abilities is explained by 50’s bad science fiction movies and comic books - lucky outcome of exposure to radiation. This also explains her eating radioactive fast food - she need the radioactivity to keep up her super human abilities.

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Totally agree regarding the hospital scenes - could have been good but the show got the desired outcome with no attention to making getting there even slightly real or trying to develop her character.
I'm giving the grave scene a pass. Since the notebook was obviously intended for her and was written for her in the future, perhaps something similar to the EMP/photo/cup was done by someone who knew she would be there at that time and others would not disturb it. It should be possible to move the entire grave from the future to that time/place and with nothing alive, errors in the transmission wouldn't matter.

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When the nurse gave her the antibiotic my thought were: why isn't she asking what for? Nuts.The rest of the scene I FF, so I thought I had missed the real reason why she arrived to the tomb, but reading the recap... alas! I missed nothing!
And yes, I'm still here watching. And no, don't ask me why!

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It's because misery loves company!

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😅😅, maybe.

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Interesting that the wolf choose not to attack big human but just jumped past human and attacked the small rabbit. Also interesting that animals are alive in the destroyed future...the destroyed future that supposedly is filled with poisonous gas. Also interesting that destroyed future with poisonous gas is now filled with greenery like an image from dinousaur age. Show is so inconsistent with the world building. Initially it was as if the whole world is doomed...now it's only South Korea and people can escape the country for a better future.

I wonder if the writer aim is to show class difference? The underprevilaged will always be at the bottom but the rich can survive...I think only that can support why on earth there is 2 very different places in the future: rundown place Soohae lives in, eating trash and radioactive chips next to human bones vs nice city where the medicine is.

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I didn't watch the ep but I found it so funny reading you guys' comments. Wow.. the wolf chose to attack a small rabbit instead of human, that must have been quite a sight!

I do think the only one who is doomed here is the viewers. I am not sure about the actors but I think they, at least, will gain supposedly huge amount of money from the project.

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I am not surprised by the lush greenery and the animals. This is what happened with Chernobyl. It is a sight to be seen.
I am more curious why do they wear gas masks after a nuclear bombing. It's not that those masks would protect them from radiation.
As about a wolf ignoring the bigger prey... I have been pausing reason and logic when watching KDrama for years now. I just enjoy the show as it is and take all the good that I can. It helped me not going insane a loooong time ago. :)
Please anybody correct me if I am wrong.

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Sorry, I didn't watch this episode, because I feel hopeless when watching this. I read this review to see if there is anything left on this show. So this maybe my last comment about the show.

My last hope is about the show making Seo-hae a better character. Some episodes before, I think the screenwriter wrote Seo a woman, yet a capable warrior, which for me is an ingenious design. But now, she has become a girl-rambo--the sign was there already in last episode, when she jump one level down in the sniper scene to save Tae-sool. I don't think that jump is possible in terms of human physique. Now we have a superheroine doing something no one can do in that hospital scene. I know the analogy by naming the show "Sisyphus": it's hopeless to struggle, but it's worth to struggle. Then what I want is some very human emotions. I don't see that in this show lately. So why should I watch this show? I can see more human in Christopher Nolan's Batman Trilogy then this one.

Same to Kim Byung-chul's Sigma. It's so simple to have a villain whose only motif is to destroy the known world. The screenwriter is simply lazy! I do want something more then that, which make the show really more interesting. But, well ... I give up ...

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Despite the fact that Cho Seung-woo brings a cheekiness to our genius engineer CEO, I really wish they aged down his character. The romance is miscast. Seo-hae is 24? but acts like a teenager. I don't understand why she's so sheltered when she grew up for nine years
in pre-apocalyptic Korea. At least Seo-hae and Sun look visually compatible.

Shouldn't Seo-hae be rushing home to give Dad the antibiotics? Why is she wasting time sleeping and reading the diary? Where did their bomb shelter come from? Sigh of relief that Sigma is a smart villain, but how did he have enough medicine to give Chairman Kim for 19 years?

Thanks a bunch for the recap, @lovepark!

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I didn't even consider the medicine question, but you're right. There's no way Sigma brought over 200 vials of that medicine with him in that suitcase. My biggest question mark about the whole chairman plot point was why he didn't try to research the cure and figure out its components. Seems foolish of the chairman to rely on a complete stranger for medicine all this time especially since said stranger was untrustworthy and super shady.

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It's 2021 and ALS doesn't have a cure, but Sigma managed to take a cure from the future (2021) to the past (2001) that doesn't exist. Or are you telling me that in 2036 resources have been "waster" on investigating ALS when the whole country has been erased?
Drama rules, I guess.

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Interesting tidbit: The writers originally envisioned the role to be played by someone born in 1988 and 6'0 tall. However, the PD said CSW was the only person for the role, so the writers aged up the role and matched to his build lol. CSW jokingly said due to that, he felt miscast. I've heard some rumblings about him being mis-cast, which I see too. But I guess, everyone has their faves? B/c I think he adds his own flavor and distinct quirks to the role that I can't help but not like the role?

As for Seo-hae, isn't the version present here like a child? Which is confusing lol? As for visually compatible, weirdly I think even though that's the obvious pair up. I think the show has built Seo-hae and Tae-sul's relationship to a point, where I don't see anyone else but those two together lol. I think she's strong when she has the courage and strength in arduous situations. But sometimes childish at times, but I think it makes her a bit rounded as in she's not just some 'macho' action chick all the time. Although the Control Bureau lol, is a joke ngl.

I notice this show tends to drag out certain scenes which in their timeline is prob a short time, but in the context of our watch, its a bit long lol. I expect most of those ?'s are going to be slowly un-raveled as the series progresses.

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At least now we know why Seo-hae could say so confidently in past episodes that she wasn't going to die then.

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*I like strong female leads, but the show is making her too amazing and her feats come across as plot armor rather than the results of her own abilities* This is so well said, but I promised myself I wasn't going to gripe about Seo-hae's character anymore.

I was quite confused when she found the coffin with the two skeletons in it. Does that mean she died in the past, having written her diary and had it placed in the coffin with her body, but was still living in the future, when she found the diary with her own skeleton in the coffin, and then inspired by the diary was downloaded into the past, where she died, having written the diary? Is this what I'm watching? Intriguing. I'm feeling a bit sea sick.

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Exactly that. That's her loop. She's told herself she has to go back to the past and save TaeSul, so she goes back to the past and tries to save TaeSul, but dies and then she tells herself again that she has to go to the past to save TaeSul and fails again and dies and...

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Thank you. Now I get it.

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Chae JongHyeop is unconventionally too handsome.

But I hate the way the writers are inserting Sun into scenes inorganically! He's becoming like a sasaeng fan! I also wonder this extra love is going to make him be into Sigma later!

Also why do I feel he is going to end up being erased from the timeline!

That said but I love seeing him smile!

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Also that super long chase scene in the hospital took me out of the story and I was mentally organizing what chores I have to do tomorrow!

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Also why are there no women in Control Bureau?
Is it to diminish office romances??

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May be woman have better things to do.

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I started making pot stickers. Wish I could send some to @lovepark to say thanks for the re-caps.

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I don’t care what anyone says, I’m actually enjoying this show somewhat now! I love the story-telling. I’m less concerned about the accuracy of the dystopian state or the time travel. I don’t watch kdramas for any of that. I watch for the emotional interconnection. It’s finally giving me some of that now, which I’m appreciating. I have some theory as to why the people from the future seem much stronger than the present. They likely are living with less O2, more CO2 and their bodies crave O2, so when they come back to the past, it’s like a power boost. Also, it’s likely that they are protein deficient and anemic when they cone over and just eating a protein rich meal may be enough to correct some of their anemia, giving their muscles and brain more energy than they had prior. And in the future, they are always in the fight or flight state, running on adrenaline constantly, constantly training their bodies to endure in O2-deficient states, that it’s that much easier to do things when they are oxygen. Why runners and athletes often train in mountains at higher elevations—to train their bodies to do more with less.

I liked how we got more backstory on Seo-hae. I care more about her now.

Anyway, I hope to get more JSW fanboying over his new crush/savior. He’s adorable, I love him grinning from ear to ear like a fool!

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I'm here for the abs updates and to air my disappointment that every even episode didn't unveil a new set (or at least that's my impression since 3/4ths of ep. 1 and 2 minutes of ep. 2 were enough for me).

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I've been researching meticulously and watching intently for you and I'm disappointed as well. Sowwwwy.

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I gave up trying to understand what's happening in this drama. I find the writing and directing so, so, so lazy... I've said before I love the leads and how they interact and that's what keep me watching.
On this episode list "things that don't make sense":
- Stuffed animals that have been in the radioactive open air for 15 years but look bright new.
- Bags of snacks that have been in the radioactive open air for 15 years and look bright new.
- Wild vegetation growing in a radioactive environment as if it were the Amazon.
- Sigma wanting the world to disappear because he wants. Such a cartoonish evil guy. Like there's never been any evil guy evilier than Sigma. Males Daleks like good people.
- Sun being in love with SeoHae. Nice guy, but...
- Security Staff at hospital shooting without checking and hitting everything but SeoHae. I think they can be the successors of Control Bureau and probably a long time ago in far, far galaxy they were Stormtroopers.
Anyway. Give me more cute TaeSul and I will be here with a smile.

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"I find the writing and directing so, so, so lazy..."

Well said, and I agree with you, @eazal, everything here except the wild vegetation. Since human were moved out and left the place to grow whatever they have, plants (and animals) do flourish in a post-radioactive incident location. Just look at Chernobyl: according to what I read in the past, at least 30 species, animals and plants, were living in the vicinity after the 1987 nuclear incident.

But certainly, I won't eat and take anything from there for sure.

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The show is littered with inconsistencies. How Sigma can have access to medicine for a disease that does not have cure in 2021 but it is available in time he came from? How can a radioactive wasteland develop a cure for a disease in mere one or two decades? I don’t think so developing cure would be on their agenda.
Why did Sun fall for Seo-hae? When they first met, she threatened him and nearly died because of her. The only beneficial thing that come out of was the lottery. Did he hit his head and got selective amnesia?
Why there is big fancy hospital in future without patients being guarded by military? What they are protecting? I could only see a room full of medicines, no patients, doctors or nefarious scientists conducting experiments to create super soldiers.
The show has more holes than a strainer.

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the first point of your comment was exactly what i was thinking. Unless the rest of the world is fine? and the korean peninsula is destroyed? so research carried on elsewere. It kinda hurts my head

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Did anyone else pick up that the watch she wears in the future is the same one Sun gave her?

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Despite all its flaw, I'm still watching it just because I really don't have anything else to watch (apart from Kshow program). For what it's worth, at least PSY actions are bearable for me this time 😅😅😅.
Let see if I can stay watching until finale 🙊🙈 (dropped so many drama already 😫)

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Mouse is seriously good. so far, anyway.

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I don’t know if I’m stupid or what but I have a hard time understanding this drama. But I still watch it tho 🤷🏻‍♀️. At least to support PSH and JSW

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No you're not stupid. I've given up trying to understand. I liked JSW in Stranger but this show is too frustrating for me to go on.

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I'm 3/4 through episode 8. I'm dropping this show. The junk food at the abandoned amusement park just got to me. I am sorry. This is the first show with high-caliber actors that I've dropped. Sung Dong-il and Kim Byung-chul can't save this disaster for me. Even the kid from the restaurant has become annoying.

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I’m sad that this show lost its viewers due to its lack of attention to detail. In terms of time traveling, it has been good. The logic all makes sense except for the fact that they reveal it all too slowly. Often someone will say “this doesn’t make sense” only for the reasoning to be revealed next episode. But it’s so frustrating that it is like this week after week.

I read somewhere that the writer thought of the drama when the N &S Korea tensions were heightened. Watching the episodes yesterday, it suddenly popped it to my head that maybe Sigma represents that evil guy. The evil guy who makes no sense, no seemingly logical motives. It makes no sense to the viewer that they have no revealed why he wants to nuke the world, but maybe that’s the point, there really is no good reason to want to destroy a world anyway, and yet it is true we have people in this world who seem to not care about that kind of destruction.

Much like TKEM, the show is talking about choices, making good choices that will lead to good outcomes when it comes to fighting against evil. And both seem to be a commentary of current events in the world. I love the exploration of this theme, I just wish it were better shot/written so that we love it and it makes us question our roles in making good choices as well. Sigh.

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Nice comment btw! This show was originally written as 20 episodes when SBS had the show back in 2016. Sometimes I wonder if this would be better as 20 episodes, and sometimes better as 12 episodes. I go back/forth on that lol. It does feel like a bit of padding sometimes, which I think loses some people.

On the N/S Korea tensions, yes same! I read the same thing from the PD/writers. The PD said how interesting it was that people outside of Korea (worldwide) were more scared/more nervous about N. Korea nuking S. Korea, and how S. Korea was used to so much noise about it from the North, that they no longer lived in fear as a result. And this show takes it from the p.o.v of "What if it happened in S. Korea? What would happen?. I think Stigma is N. Korea lol too.

Aww on your last part. Somewhere in the midst of confusion, awkward parts, I do think there's some great themes/ideas in there, and I think the heart/emotion is there. I feel bad for the writers as I heard this took them 4-5 yrs to complete, perhaps SBS fighting them for this, eventually leaving this project in development hell for a bit perhaps took something away from the original story? I do think that SBS took some ideas from Sisyphus (which was originally their property), and TKEM was birthed from that incident. I notice several shows w/ similar themes/ideas come around in a same time/same year.

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If she’s dead in the past, how come she’s alive in the future?
I dont get that

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So the supposed "good" heroine breaks into a hospital, steals medicine, and mass murders multiple guards on her way out.

It seems she's a one trick pony whose sole answer to everything is a gun.

Sorry, but it's impossible to view her as "good" in any way. All she ever does is pull out guns and shoot people. She's what any normal person would regard as evil -- someone who freely kills whenever they want something.

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