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Team Dramabeans: What we’re watching

So, what are we all watching this week?

What kept you reaching for more (or agonizing when there was no more), and what made you want to throw your remote through the screen? Time to weigh in…

 

abirdword

Start-Up: I came for the nice set design and Kim Sun-ho dimples, I’m staying for those second lead feelings. Show us Ji-pyeong’s letters already! It’s pretty clear that things are setting up to make Do-san the guy who gets the girl and Ji-pyeong the guy who gains a family, and I’m okay with that, really I am. But I want to see Ji-pyeong admit how Dal-mi’s letters meant just as much to him as his did to her. You know his true heart is laid bare in those notes halmoni “made” him write.

 

missvictrix

Currently weecapping: Do Do Sol Sol La La Sol, Start-Up

More Than Friends: Baby, I got sucked back into this drama and didn’t even see it coming! I actually like the drama’s very unconventional romance pacing a lot, with its starts and stops and re-starts at points you wouldn’t expect. I’m almost caught up, and things reached such a point at Episode 9/10 that I actually had to verify that it wasn’t a 12-episode drama — that’s how wrapped up everything was suddenly feeling. Yay, I love dramas that screw with my brain and make me wonder what sort of storytelling stunts are in store. It’s kind of like I know how it’s going to end… but I don’t know how it will play out? Also, Ong Sung-woo has a drop-dead gorgeous profile. That rain scene was a thing to remember.

 

quirkycase

Currently Recapping: Tale of the Nine Tailed

Penthouse: Wow this is so extra. What is this alternate universe in which everyone and their mother happens to be a cutthroat (heh) soprano? I loved An Empress’s Dignity for its hilarious, campy nonsense, but something about this one isn’t working as well for me. I found myself quickly growing bored of all their antics and hysterics. I think part of the problem is the characters are uninteresting and frequently annoying, and I don’t care about who gets into the one art school to rule them all. Two episodes of this one were enough for me.

Search: I love the villagers’ operation Da-jung set up. She is on it. I really like her and her confident daughter. Now we’re weaving in the 1997 incident, and I’m curious to see how that links to the mutant situation going on.

Birthcare Center: I’ve been looking forward to this one with its unique setting and premise. I love the unglamorized portrayal of pregnancy, labor, and recovery. It’s so rare to see depictions like this in dramaland. The humor took me off guard, but I really liked episode one with its touch of ridiculousness injected into serious proceedings. But episode two was a bit all over the place and didn’t gel as well for me. I’m hoping everything comes together more next week because I’m not sure what they’re going for now that we’re at the birth care center. I hope we get to see some varied portrayals of mothers and good female bonding as we go forward since there’s a lot of potential here.

Do Do Sol Sol La La Sol: Well, things certainly went south this week. I was wondering when the creepy stalker dude would make his move. I didn’t expect Joon’s secret to be revealed in such spectacular fashion, but I am glad it’s out there. Joon’s family is so overbearing, and I’m rooting for him to escape their clutches and live happily ever after with his acquired loving family in Eunpo.

 
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Start Up. I’m still liking it, but please, can we have some development in female characters? Am I asking for too much? Can they not be stereotypes: DalMi the sweet Candy with a heart of a lion? InJae the cold chaebol who hasn’t have a heart? Halmoni the ever understanding good granny that can bear anything? Mum the woman who sold her soul for money?

As I didn’t get enough Kim Su Hun I decided to watch You drive me crazy which is just two episodes and in which he is just adorable and cute and sweet and… everything! It’s a fluffy short drama that put a big smile on my face. Even so, I wasn’t really comfortable with a FL drunk lady making up with a sober ML.

Search. I’m loving this so, so, so much. We have a triple childhood connection - no connection and I really like that the zombie-wolf-soldier has been killed for good. I’m trusting Cap. Shin and Lt. Lee can team up with Sg. Yong to uncover the 1997 events. I trust them three, there have been issues on the three of them, but they are honest and I don’t think any of them will be quiet when they learn the truth.

Kairos. I don’t know how the show will be able to keep the pace. OMG! So many things happening on every episode! The theories on episode 2 are old by episode 4. Our poor AeRi is being saved every day from dying. Our SeoJin is fighting so hard to save his child and wife, unbeknown of her betrayal. Now I think wife is not dead, and has never been dead and she’s the one who plots everything to get rid of SeoJin. I trust the chauffeur even if he looks suspicious: he’s the one who gave SeoJin AeRi’s phone.

Birthcare center. Yes to this show: women not being perfect and fighting because they have to be. I love the cranky sense of humor. I’m just being very patient with Viki and the subs...

Tale of the Nine Tailed. Distracting foxes are going to be the end of me. Sassy distracting fox, guilty distracting fox, cute distracting fox couple. I could rewatch episode 9 endlessly. Jia reminded me of Buffy in Normal again and her fight to believe she could have a normal life… @sirena when I was watching I couldn’t help but thinking about you.

Six Flying Dragons. Well, a 50 eps drama has another rhythm, that’s for sure. Still with character’s introduction. Politics are a bit hard to follow, and I keep checking information to try to better understand the historical moment, which makes me stop every episode several times, making the watching slower. My knowledge of history is too European centered, so I get lost very easily.

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Kim Su Hun in You drive me crazy was the perfect boyfriend! I loved his house and the cute hedgehog!

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Yes to the development of female characters in Start-Up! I'm especially interested in In-jae and her backstory as to why she chose her mom and how she coped after the divorce.

As for our beloved Halmeoni, I'm hoping hers is not the "I have a terminal illness so please stop fighting and make up for my sake" trope.

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Me too. I'm hoping this show explores the women, especially In Jae

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I think Injae's dad asked her to choose her mom so she won't be alone!

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I agree I too was uncomfortable during that scene in You Drive me crazy. Which is why I couldn't give it a higher rating. Wondered why no one mentioned it.
Also with Six flying dragon I am reading DB recaps.

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I didn’t check it there were recaps, but now that you mention it I will check them. I could use some help regarding all the politics.

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Thanks for this!
Now with this and the recaps my watching will definitely slow down 🤣🤣🤣

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Now I think wife is not dead, and has never been dead

So kdrama time-manipulation has reached the point where it is actually necessary to specify the 2nd part.

Also...

Buffy!!!

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This is funny, just today I requested "You drive me crazy" on Netflix (you know on their help page where you can request/suggest dramas/films you want to watch). It is one of my favourites.

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It's on kocowa

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It's also in Viki, but not in my zone.
Just check it.

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Kocowa is not available in my country and on Viki it is not available in my zone :(

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@tanizakibadwolf I totally understand you. It happened to me. I just watched it in Dramac**l.

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I'm loving Search too! Much more than I thought I would.

I especially like the exes who bicker to the other's face but then have each other's back, and the Special Services ahjumma is just priceless.

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Yes to all of that!!!

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I do not see Dal-mi as a Candy character at all. She is courageous but she is also very smart- and proves it by the speed with which she picks up needed knowledge and applies it quickly to solve the problems she faces. She thinks on her feet.

Above all the Candy character is always joined with a rich guy. Here we see her and Do-san getting together and Do-san is definitely not the sort of guy who gets to be with Candy. Perhaps most important is that Do-san may eventually become rich but if he does it will be in part because of Dal-mi. Dal-mi is the opposite of Candy. And she is developing in this story but it is a professional development: She is learning how to be a good CEO.

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I agree, I don't think Dal-mi fits the Candy mold, lol. She is too smart, and has faults that Candies are rarely allowed to have: she is jealous/envious of her sister, she has self-doubts and moments of self-pity. I think that part of the issue is that she is being played by Suzy, who is doing a tolerable job here but can't totally get away from her comfort zone which is cheerful sunniness. I don't think the character, as written, is essentially shallow - certainly not as much as In-Jae's character, at this point - but that I think it requires a lot of effort on Suzy's part to portray anything on the darker side.

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I think that both the kid and the wife are still alive. But every change in the past changes the future, so that may not hold for long.

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Start-Up: So many things happened last week. The contrast between Dal-mi and In-jae's leadership was interesting, though it probably would boil down to the quality of their people in the long run?

Tale Of The Nine-Tailed: Episodes 9 and 10 were soooo good! Nice twist on Ah-eum's death, she was smart and badass even back then.

The Spies Who Loved Me: lol @ seeing Ji-hoon and Derek who are spies at the top of their game quickly turn petty over Ah-reum. Our girl would probably solve Sophie's death on her own at this point 🤣

More Than Friends: Young-hee and Hyun-jae's relationship is interesting with YH burdened by her poverty and HJ still trying to get past her walls even after 10 years of dating. Jin-joo is so clueless that Sang-hyuk likes her lol.

As for the main leads, uhhh...

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Ah Eum was really courageous and really deserving of that endless love. Girl rocks

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Ah-reum does not have access to all the information needed to solve Sophie's death, but neither does Ji-hoon. And there is your romance sub-plot right there.

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Kairos: Woof, we are in it now. Cheating wife, suspicious boss and subordinate. This drama is all about tension and it is delivering beautifully. No one believes wife is dead and no one believes daughter is dead, the question is where are they?

Penthouse: This show gets worse and worse, but in the best way. There is no singular way they could have cleaned up that mess by themselves. that being said I am sad she died. The question is who did it? I'm thinking that super shifty maid or one of the kids. Also who is guessing the boy twin falls for our poor girl?

Birthcare center: Tonal whiplash. I don't like it. I hope they pick a tone, otherwise I will quit even though it is only 8 episodes.

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Penthouse and Kairos have a common thread - both are filled with evil lying cheating people. In Penthouse I am hoping for a glorious end where all the bad people go up in a ball of flame.

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I think Min Seol A has a twin...she'll comeback. 😆

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OMG, that would be the height of soap opera shenanigans. I almost want this to happen, lol.

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JAPAN -

Maidens in Savage Season - 7/10 - Writer has much from source but limited time so fastening things up. Yamada Anna.

We Married As a Job - NigeHaji - January 2021 Special Episode. yes yes yes. I shared this news a month ago on Mydramalist

Yuru Camp - Season 2 - 2021 - yes.

Yayoi March - 6/10 - Japanese movie.

Alice in Borderland - starting soon on Netflix. Kento with Tao.

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Sports at top most of the time.

1st position is Japan
2nd one was Korea but regressed so now its K+CN+Taiwan for 3rd position. Food Chain it is. Also -ve parts are always put away from the +ve. above system's only condition.

Nagasawa Masami - Netflix movie. from real life events. 1st time seen Nagasawa play such a -ve role. 1st 15minutes are enough to upset you. After that Viewer gets 1 slap after another. Why make a movie when you can see/read the same in daily news.

Shanara Chronicle - low budget web series trash. We have a chad hero who score 2 heroines. Danger around let's makeout. time running out - let's do some raunchy stuff. What meaning this kind of webseries have? Low quality villains. not much logic.

Johnny bravo is far better and have more meaning than these resource wastage of dramas.

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Korea + China

China - none and as acknowledged by stardust - All these shows are trash.

Barterstall - 4/10 Noway it looks more than that. Heroine doing catwalk. wow. guys hitting almost 30 going crazy like kids who got their 1st gaming console. forced fight and atrocious patchup. Garbage what it is.

meme husbands - 4/10 - These guys are ruining the name of such a serious profession. Heroine is as much dumb as she can be. Hus+ex are into their own BL.

Orphan Family - 4/10 @oldawyerawyer is interpreting stalker girl as a good romance. Well, I accept the view but not acknowledge it. Its more like that idle girl has nothing to do in life. Birth drama still going on. Writer really thinks audience is bunch of idiots. This show is atrocious on all levels.

Not more than trash - writer clearly accepted that this show is garbage. Side characters still have something redeemable but main hero-heroine has nothing to show on table at all. Profession and dreams in dustbin. Welll, they never mattered as writer was busy turning 2 episodes into 16 and counting the cash he/she gets to earn through this scam. Korean romance dramas are usually of substandard but this show is hellbent on beating that level too. There should be a limit to copy-paste. That's what the basic problem of romance kdrama writers. They don't have clue about individuality.

18 - 4/10 - same view still. garbage
Pale guy - 4/10 - Don't use your brain. just keep watching this ride of nonsense. Pale guy fighting against plastic face.
Brother still has he best screentime. trash romance, trash cgi, trash fantasy.

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I am genuinely curious. Since week on week you keep saying they are trash, why are you still watching them?

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I hae no idea what drams you are talking about about so I don't think the vitriol is landing where it should.

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@screentime last week jumble was quite interesting - aiming at whom can't say. The best diplomatic offense.

I look at story and characters and main female character. This is my 1st and foremost criteria. I consider entertainment lowest of denominator to measure a fiction. My top 20 fictional characters have 17 females and only 3 males. And Japanese media provides far better female characters as well as broadcasters are brave enough to spend money on shows driven by female actors. K+CN media is far behind.

1. Director and Writer are smart to capitalise Yoshitaka Yuriko abilities or we should say all 3 are in sync so we are getting an outcome which normally is above average but now looking quite decent. This is why i always say - character makes an actor. A good director can get job done from even a poker face.

2. Stalker girl is given delusional escape through romanticisation of her idle time. Idle mind can't think good things.
3. i do watch dramas that i don't intentionally mention here. Depends upon the level of audience. I have seen princess maison.
4. A Meal Makes Her Forget is one of my favourite. Manga still looks better.
5. Many complain about low budget Japanese dramas, low budget lighting and camera - but i think that's what make their dramas look a bit more real. This is why i never thought quality of shoot was a big problem.

6. I completely agree that every writing involves manipulation. But if that manipulation has no effect on the supposed party or if that manipulation is easy seen by the supposed party, then the scam falls off. Kdrama writers are keen enough to serve what audience want, easy shrills. As a business person i would have done the same and exploited the emotional weakness of audience but as an admirer of Art i feel o respect for such personalities. Its also an excuse to easy put all blame on audience aka customer for what is being served. Broadcaster reveling in mediocrity, evading responsibilities and pointing fingers at audience for being superficial and full of prejudices when tv is the medium that amplified those prejudices and turned them into non-erasable marks.

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@cloggie Wait is makes it more interesting and shows how much someone cares. Patience to impatience is such a nice experience to have. You miss it, think about it, now more about it and grow to like it more, get disappointed and all.

@dorotka you can watch episode 02 now.

Our Sister's Lover - Episode 02 - Just watched last 10 minutes of it now. Mood is upbeat. +ve vibes. festival season. after lot of healthy worries. you see this through background music and sfx. Our 2 main females are like that act made of 2 comedians. There timing and response is quite good. helps when you have worked earlier with each other.
This show gonna turn EH? into a meme.
The serious tone of the show comes from mother and through facial expressions of Hero-the-son. Trauma is quite strong here. Overall another nice episode and i for nitpicking
conveniently heroine's heartache is linked with hero and Uncle is officer of hero. Yeah yeah. I'll ignore it for now.
I won't go -ve on the show till last week. And the job to explore and point out the shortcomings is left other viewers here.

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Hi Cat-o-Cat, I can't be the only one that doesn't understand which kdramas you are talking about with the "names" you use. For instance "pale guy"? I have stopped trying to figure out which drama you mean. I'm interested in your reviews, I just don't get the need to confuse the names.

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To me, this comment is like that awkward burn someone didn't realise they were making.
It unintentionally says something about the industry (which includes us viewers) when "pale guy" could be taken to be any number of shows.

Apologies @becky is that meaning was also intended.

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'Pale guy' can indeed refer to any number of K-dramas, but only because most Korean leading men seem fair verging on pale. E.g. Lee Joon-ki, Shin Sung-rok and Cho Seung-woo look rather pale in their recent shows, but fashion trends aside I have no trouble telling Flower of Evil, Kairos and Stranger apart with regard to plot, characters, etc.

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18 Again (Episode 13-14)
Watching Ji Hoon’s arc has been a rollercoaster ride for me from playboy to single parent to romantic interest: now, we have this accident story which I’m dreading will be used as the conflict in the finale. This show has surprised me with a lot of fake-outs (for example the stalker) and I’m appealing to the writer to do just that: it even appears to me that part of the conversation between Dae Young and Ji Hoon containing the truth behind the accident was cut. I also hope that the rest of the family (and Hye In ssaem, for Duk Jin’s sake) get to learn the truth: the reactions will be a comedy mine.

Birthcare Center (Episode 1-2)
I’ve been really hyped up for this show given its 8-episode count and fresh concept (The cast is great too: I won’t mind more Yoon Park on my screen!): fortunately, the premiere has assured me that it was the right choice to watch it. Maybe its just me but I find it weirdly hilarious that Do Yoon is also undergoing a separate course on Daddying 101: I was only expecting Mommying 101 from the promos! (Although his mentor has left so I guess its over) It’s interesting to see how Roo Da’s entrance may disrupt the hierarchy and whether it will influence Hyun Jin into not submitting as well.

Search (Episode 5-6)
So, I’m supposed to believe that the camcorder still works after 20+ years and that it has somehow magically found its way into the village in one piece? Not only that, it gets passed along until it reaches Dong Jin and he’s the one who got to see the footage? I’m not sure I buy that, Show! I honestly feel bad for the Sniper: he’s the only one with a non-shady phone call but that marriage comment probably doomed his fate (seriously though Writer: don’t kill him I beg you). I’m disappointed that the 1997 conspiracy will be part of the climax but I guess with both leads’ past it was just inevitable.

Start-Up (Episode 5-6)
Ah, I see what the writer is doing there: make In Jae the despicable 2nd female lead who purposely antagonises Dal Mi and steals her childhood memory so that we’ll have no issue rooting for Dal Mi’s success. The same thing is happening to the male leads with Do San being this guy with untapped potential and is actually a genius (let me roll my eyes) who suffers from the rude judgement of the haughty Ji Pyung despite being a sweetheart. In other news, Grandma’s eyes is an unoriginal development that prolongs the misunderstanding while Revenge Guy is another drag on the overall story.

Also watching:
- Private Lives (Episode 9-10)
- The Spies Who Loved Me (Episode 5-6)
- More Than Friends (Episode 9-10)
- Tale of the Nine Tailed (Episode 9-10)

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For Search, I was thinking the same for the wedding guy, "oh, I hope he won't die". Then, " Wasn't he the cop who made Bae Doo-Na crying in Stranger 2?" So now, I'm hesitating :p

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Yes. Although as we’ve got one team member killed I was just hoping he wasn’t really killed.
Although now that you mention it, yes he’s one of those two HQ jerks that made uri YeoJin cry, so... I may look aside 😑

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And we are not resentful at all, we just have a very good memory :p

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I agree with you about Search as I rolled my eyes while the camcorder still worked after years (some of them in water), but even so, I’m willing to look aside their gigantic plot hole because I’m having so much fun. Also... really? Three of the the team members are sons/daughter of the 1997 team? Really?

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I finally gave up on Search - I can only deal with so many stupid plot holes and impossible things happening at once. This show has more makjang than Penthouse.

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I wasn't surprised that the camera still worked. Though I was surprised that the battery did.

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🤣🤣🤣
Ahjumma's husband had been working on her, so I guess he just loaded it. It was just another dramaland miracle that a 90's battery hadn't melted because of the sun, rain and passing of time... Oh, the good all days were things lasted more than two years.

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Ooof I hope writer-nim doesn't go that way with In-jae's character 😭
I want to them to show how different the sisters are (from choosing which parent to stay with, leading their respective companies, to dealing with problems that get thrown their way) and eventually work together and complement each other.

Huh, while typing this a thought popped into my mind: what if In-jae chose to go with their mom because she knew that Dal-mi would choose their dad? 🤔

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It would suit the older sister, tbh. Taking her or her donsaeng. In fact, while I was watching episode 1 I was totally convinced she was going to choose dad, because she was the one trying so hard to convince mum to stay with dad and explained to her how harsh his boss was on him, while DalMi didn’t even open her mouth. She was the one who fiercely fought for her family.

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This writer usually fleshes out all the main characters. I'm sure we'll get In-Jae's story and even the Mother's story.

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Hi @radily, What are your thoughts on Private Lives?

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I'm honestly more interested to see the reunion of the second leads rather than the main couple since their backstory is certainly the more interesting one and their characters are definitely more greyer. The male lead definitely has the weakest setup out of the 4 leads while the female lead seems to be getting rescued for the nth time.

Side characters: Hanson has no backstory yet and I hope a crush on Joo Eun isn't his only motivation, the others are basically filler. The male cop (is it his justice-seeking personality or is he yet another character with a crush on Joo Eun, I can't tell) has the potential to be interesting but I highly doubt it since I don't think the writer will take the effort to develop him.

Story: It's so boring. Corruption's been done before and all this kingmaker stuff is just lame drama antagonist nonsense. It doesn't help that the editing of the show is insanely bad and we can't understand the episodes in one watch.

Conclusion: I can't watch it without pressing the fast-forward button but it's not that bad that I'm like openly cringing but if the rest of the show doesn't offer up any positive surprises, it'll probably be a max 2/5. There's lots of cliches I foresee that'll drag it down to a 1/5.

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I've been struggling to get my bearings with this drama. I find the concept of two characters having intersecting lives but not actually interacting very intriguing, and I think that's what the writer was attempting here. Its just the execution is very poor. I want to like this drama and want to care about this "secret ledger" but I don't. I want to believe the leads love one another but I'm not totally sure the leads even care if the other does in fact love them, honestly. The rest of the drama fits that same format as well. Neither the writer(s) nor the actors have convinced me that I should have a vested interest in anything that's transpiring. Your analysis is pretty spot on.

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About 18 again: Yeah, I also feel like part of the conversation between Dae-young and Ji-hoon was cut. It now kind of looks like Dae-young was responsible for the accident, but I don't think he was. If he caused the accident, the person calling him would probably be the detective, not Ji-hoon. Maybe Dae-young tried to save Ji-hoon's brother or saved Seo-yeon (if she was there too, I don't know) but didn't leave his contact information, so Ji-hoon wasn't able to thank him.
And yes! I'm also really looking forward to their reactions. I've been hoping that at least Ji-ho would figure it out, and he'll be suspicious now, so the next episode might be quite funny.
I kind of wish this drama had 18 episodes.

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Kairos No time for our brains to rest, the plot is advancing at high speed.

Birthcare Center It's weird but the themes are very interesting and realistic.

Do Do Sol Sol La La Sol I'm watching it for Ha-Young and Seung-Ki, they're super cute together.

Tale of the Nine Tailed Yeon is finally becoming serious about Imoogi.

The Spies Who Loved Me Only one episode this week :( The diner with the trio was so funny. The actors are doing a great job. I like the OST.

More Than Friends I don't understand the FL... I hoped the writer would choose the interesting road and not the KDramaesque one.

Search Too many villains and not enough people who actually know what they're doing.

Start-Up I can't like Do-San's romantic side as long as Dal-Mi doesn't know the truth about the letters. Every move he makes about Dal-Mi sounds opportunist for me. Halmoni should have said the truth since a long time because it affects Dal-Mi, Do-San and Ji-Pyeong. I want to hug Ji-Pyeong is so lonely talking to his AI :(

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Totally agree with you about DoSan.
I know he’s ML, but even so, I have the feeling he’s just ML because writer-nim has decided it, not because he deserves it.

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So here js what I think about Do San, I havent seen a character like him in dramaland yet. I've never seen a male lead who was a nerd who wasn't really ambitious, even though I have seen people like that in school. Does he not feel liek teh male lead, yes. But that is just because the writer hasn't given him enough back story. I cant really say anything about him deserving to be the male lead, but i feel like we as an audience deserve a different kind of male lead. One who is awkward, one who knits and one who is lacks ambition.

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I agree with you about him not having enough back story. We don't know about it, but writer should know about it, but it seems not to. Let's see what happens this week.

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I agree with you @eazal Sadly though, after Saturday's episode, I have resigned myself to the idea that the SL has no chance whatsoever to win the FL. I just wish the drama would stop with the teasing because it's painful to those of us who have fallen in love with Ji-Pyeong. It would be much better to stop with acting like he has any chance with her and just develop the story knowing he does not. There are other directions it could go and not leave so many of us disappointed watching Ji-Pyeong get hurt along the way.

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Now writer has dived into various scenarios to harm the female lead. This is another cheap trick and everyone must wanted to know the provider of hero-heroines mobile whose spectrum wave can jump times without any problems. This show can't sustain whatever initial momentum it had. going down pretty fast.

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Coming to More than friends everything about the show is totally annoying. I dropped it at around episode 8 but was still hopeful about writer choosing a different storyline. But I guess that was too much to expect.

I agree with you on start up also. I am not yet invested in Do San because of this sole reason. There is a serious lack of development there and I hope Dalmi find out the truth soon.

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One episode of spies was too less this week. I loved the diner also I'm totally digging how all the characters are smart. Ah reum is very quick on picking up things, it's a surprise she didn't find out about JH while they were married but it's also good that JH being a spy is out in only 4 episodes.

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I was happy this secret was out. Now, she can really see him as a full person.

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This week I got disappointed with LalaLand (why is so much time given to the Stalker (and all that makjang around)? Why is the Stalker even there???)... and a bit with Startup (why did they make Injae to be such a villainess??).

More than Friends, slowly catching up - it sooooo reminds me of my college days and some painful relationships I had then... I'm mainly rooting for the heroine to find herself (and be successful in her job).

Homemade Love Story, watching time to time - nothing special, but sometimes I need something easy before sleep... and I like the actors there.

Nee-chan no Kobito - interesting first episode. Though I do have a bit of problem with the main actress as I watched Chugakusei Nikki fairly recently and Hijiri definitely wasn't my favourite heroine of the year...

Kono Koi Atatamemasuka - I surprisingly like nearly every character there. And what a totally different character for the main actor who I lastly saw in Nagi's Vacation...😁

And... I'm also impatiently waiting for the final episode of an Adrama 😉, live action, but also a thriller apparently... today? Or tomorrow? Fingers crossed...

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hehe. Convenience store is good with remu love
This i always say - We shouldn't conflate a character with an actor.

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I usually have no problem with it... but this time... too recent watch and negative experience I guess 😆

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Looks like the character had strong impression on you. Only if we get to read its manga.

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To be honest, I don't feel like I'm invested that much in the love between ML and FL in Do Do. The fact that he is only 19 years old does matter to me. I did feel a bit strange about how Ra-ra responded to the whole situation. I don't know when but now suspending disbelief has become more difficult. The writer shouldn't have written him as a minor. When I heard his mother him that he was still a minor really impacted me.

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Isn't 19 considered an adult in ROK? He seems more mature, clear-headed, and self-sufficient than most 19 years olds.

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I think it is important to see love on a spectrum; yes they have a romance but it is not a huge passionate affair, it's a sweet first love for both of them because regardless of age they are at about the same point in their lives in terms of maturity. I think more important for both of them is the loving community they have built for themselves with their friends.

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Where are you watching the j dramas?

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Injae will certainly get her story in the second half and I believe that she is the girl on the swing. The writer is just showing her in this mean context but will flip it for sure later! There's going to be a time skip as all this is in 2016...

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Airing:
1. My dangerous wife: Eps 9-10 Crazy fun for some reason.
2. Search: Eps 1-4 Fine so far.
3. Start up: Eps 3-4 Somehow less enjoyable than I expected it to be or maybe because I spoiled myself through Tumblr.
4. Kairos: Ep 1 Good. Hope it doesn't disappoint.
Tale of the nine tailed: Eps 8 Not really sure how I feel about Rang.

Older:
1. Six Flying dragons: Ep 1 I haven't even got through my other 50ish ep drama I hope I can finish this.

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I’m here with you to fight out fear for a 50’ep drama. I’m on episode 6 and nothing much has happened really, we’ve only got characters introduction. We can do this. Fighting!

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Six Flying Dragons has a slow start, but when it gets going (around episode 10 or so) all of the setups start paying off. And because the drama takes the (sometimes agonizingly long) time to show, what every character's deal is, you start finding everyone at least a little interesting, meaning that the drama doesn't have any "filler" scenes.
I strongly recommend it if you like well thought-out dramas, where everybody has his or her own philosohy and is super passionate about it.

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Six Flying Dragons starts slow but gets on a roll. I’m only watching a couple of episodes a week so it’s going to take me ages but I think I’m more likely to finish it that way 😄

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I'm visiting the link you shared with @amy1009 and it's so useful!! Thanks!!

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I'm hooked on Start Up even though I recognize the formula. Perhaps it's the comfort of this style of K-drama combined with humor and dimples that pulled me in.

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Birthcare Center: 7.6???? OMG! S. Korea's birth rate is already worrisomely low. I fear the first half hour of this will drive it down to zero. Score is about 9+ for acting, story and "how good it is" but only about a 6.5 for "how much I like it".

Startup: 7.7 I'm not too sure why it should have been such a big deal whether an AI intended to detect forged (handwritten) signatures could correctly handle a computer font intended to resemble handwriting. I'm not even sure what would be "correct". Maybe the subs left something out??

Fly Dragon / Delayed Justice: 6.0 Kinda fun at first, but just halfway thru day 2 it was already looking like just an over-acted copy of 800,000 other underdog/legal kdramas.

Kairos: 5.0 Sorry. I have lost faith in the writer's ability to juggle timelines or do anything creative with the cool time gimmick.
And if they keep trying to kill off the 30-days-behind FL, no worries -- if they get her the ML can just robo-dial every phone in Korea until he gets an answer from someone 60 days behind.

Tale of the 9-Tailed: 7.4 When I see juice-pusher lady here I can't help thinking of other kdrama juice pushers and then I get mental whiplash. #intothering

Spies Who Loved Me: 6.5 Just spinning it's wheels this week.

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If the AI detection could not handle the font, that means that forgers could use the font to fool the AI detection, rendering the AI detection useless...

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Now that I've seen your comment I'm wondering how Birthcare Center's opening compares to scenes of childbirth in Call the Midwife, but not enough to actually watch.

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Tale of the Nine-Tailed: this week’s episodes were the best yet. In related news, I will be calling my sisters this weekend to tell them I love them. Also, Lee Dong-wook, just…yes. 👌🦊

Search: binged a bunch last weekend and am nearly caught up. When I think about it objectively, I can see that at times it strains the bounds of credibility, but you don’t really notice when you’re watching. I like the dynamic Krystal and Jang Dong-yoon create, though I can’t shake Krystal’s Mu-ra from Bride of Habaek from my mind. I’m really enjoying this and kind of wish it wasn’t only 10 episodes.

Goblin: please don’t hate me, I had never watched this because I generally don’t go in for fantasy. But I realized I wanted more LDW in my life, and Goblin being the altar upon which all k-drama lovers worship, I am now on episode 4 and now I get it, guys! I think I actually love the bromance the best right now. The whole thing should feel so ridiculous, but it doesn’t – how do they do that?!

Hospital Ship: stumbled upon this in my Netflix list. Ha Ji-won plays ice-cold reserve fantastically well, so when she smiles it’s astonishing. An easy watch, a loveable ensemble cast of characters, and a slew of medical emergency miracles about as believable as the Easter Bunny – perfect for US election week distraction. Sped through all 20 eps with judicious use of the FF button and suspended disbelief.

Also: can someone please tell me how y'all do bold text? I cannot for the life of me figure it out.

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b in pointy brackets... your bold text... b after slash (like division sign) in pointy brackets.

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@dorotka, you rock! Thank you (maybe also dziękuję, based on your username?)!!

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Close... but not completely there 😉🙂

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Ah, drat! 😊 I'm sorry - hope no offense! Your username is the same as a friend of mine, so when I see it, it always makes me think of her and smile.

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Definitely no offense! (Why would?).
And I'm happy my username makes you smile 🙂

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Someone explained it well

https://imgur.com/FBENDIA

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Thanks!

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Bromance is the best thing in Goblin.
I never really cared for FL.

As for editing me check this: https://www.dramabeans.com/members/hades/activity/519553/

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Thus far, aside from the bromance, I think I'm more interested in the (what I'm sure will be tragic) relationship between Sunny and Grim Reaper.

And thanks for the editing link!

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I still replay the Grim Reaper and Sunny scenes sometimes, especially their first meeting (in her current incarnation).

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The Grim Reaper/Sunny relationship was so strong that they had to give them their own kdrama - as different incarnations, ofc ;-)

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I like Gong Yoo and all, but the chemistry between Lee Dong-wook and Yoo In-na is crazy good.

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Awesome, thank you so much!

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Hospital Ship was the best when they take care of island people with simple health issues. The scenery was beautiful. Ha Ji Won was super cute in the BTS with Minhyuk.

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Congratulations on becoming a HOSPITAL SHIPSurvivor but it seems it wasn't too much of a challenge for you to finish.

Speaking for myself it was plod. Looking back at the time not only was I plodding through HS's 40/20 episodes I was plodding through TEMPERATURE OF LOVES's 40/20 episodes.
I did enjoy the scenery in HOSPITAL SHIP I will give it that.
Re this:

Also: can someone please tell me how y'all do bold text? I cannot for the life of me figure it out.

Here from @mary is my style cheat sheet:
https://www.dramabeans.com/members/mary/activity/206796/

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I bookmarked the cheat sheet to keep it handy.
Also proofreading above I need to add a space before Survivor.

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As you say, it wasn't terrible, but plodding it was - though more toward the later half. The premise was definitely interesting, and the first few episodes were solid. It just didn't need to be 20 episodes. It probably didn't even need to be 16, but that would have worked better. Plus, the love triangle was just...dumb. But Ha Ji-won was great, and the OTP chemistry worked. It was fun for what I needed it to be. And you are so right about the scenery! It was great to watch something that wasn't set in Seoul.

Thanks, too, for the handy cheat sheet! 😊

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Plodding is exactly how I watched both. I did quit and then hate watch the end of ToL just for KJW.

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Glad you're watching Goblin :) EVERYONE LOVES THE BROMANCE!

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These boys are killing it with their dorky bro-hood. I also want to move into the house and be a roomie (and go for drinks with Sunny with whom I should clearly be friends).

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MY DANGEROUS WIFE: This has turned into a fast relay race with tropes as the baton. The tangled web now with the secondary characters is unbelievable; the dangerous "wives" now include cop writer wife and contract marriage house husband neighbor. If you put too much stuff in a blender, in the end do you get something palatable?
TALE OF THE NINE TAILED: I agree with those who think the Yeon-Jia romance is weak. Despite the premise, Jia is not Ah-eum. I fail to grasp why k-characters always fall into the trap about re-living their past life. Jia is a human with a serpent possessing part of her (which she has yet to realize or Yeon to fully grasp). The imoogi wants Yeon's body in order to marry Jia to somehow become complete? That is one strange, possessive love triangle.
Variety:
HOW DO YOU PLAY? The wind down of the Refund Sisters seems anti-climactic. Is it really true that Lee Hyori plans to take 5 years off in order to start a family?
PROBLEM CHILD IN THE HOUSE: News broke after the last episode that host Jeong Hyeong-don is taking a hiatus due to a reoccurring anxiety disorder.

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'More Than Friends' is well written, the dialog has flashes of brilliance. But the stalker wannabe boyfriend(s) trope does not translate well. At least the writer appears to be aware of how problematic it is. I'm hoping the creepy stalker aspects get resolved without the story seeming to tacitly condone stalking.

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Argh. This drama is pissing me off. I watched today’s episode and I haven’t hated Do San as much as I do now. I wanted him to come clean about the letters and instead he tries to turn Ji Pyeong away from Dal Mi when he specifically knows that only because of JP was he able to meet DM. DS is made to be so naive and stupid with a genius engineering mind which I still can’t get behind. This is one of those rare moments where I can’t even have sympathy for someone this stupid and opportunistic. Yes, that’s what DS is to me. He doesn’t come clean with the letters not because he wants to make halmoni happy, cause come on, Halmoni LOVES JP. So much, obviously. So Halmoni just tells him not to tell Dal Mi about the eye thing (which made me roll my eyes, cause come on, can’t a character go away without dying or having an incurable disease or something?). Argh I want to give JP a hug. Because he is hurting so much. Even if he doesn’t show it. I want JP to get the girl, save his family and be happy for the first time in his life. I think the only moment I saw him smile was when he was watching DM in the bus stand laughing to herself. Okay I admit, I’m starting to like DM a bit but I DONT LIKE HER WITH DS !!! I’m sorry but I’m not shipping them. At all. What happened today.. the last few minutes pissed me off so much.

Also what’s this bullshit with In Jae? I finally liked a girl here more than the female lead and you make her sly and conniving, Show? What a twist. Lol. I’m still digesting the fact that they made such a character who could have such an interesting arc something so stupid. Wasted character, I say. In Jae would’ve moved heaven and hell for Dal Mi when they were small and now she’s stealing Dal Mi’s spot. Poor poor very poor character development. Basically cruel. I’m watching this show only for Mr. Dimples so I guess there will be so much to skip or fast forward from today’s episode onward cuz Ji Pyeon gets like 0.3% time on screen.

I’m not even sorry for yelling.

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Injae will certainly get her story in the second half and I believe that she is the girl on the swing. The writer is just showing her in this mean context but I think it will get flipped later! I also feel sad that there's no interaction between Halmoni and Injae coz I get the feeling that the dad asked Injae to go with her mom promising that he'll bring them all back soon! That's why the hate coz she got abandoned! There's going to be a time skip as all this is in 2016. I want Injae and Ji-pyeong to be together though coz Ji-pyeong is too good for Dalmi lol!

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I feel your pain. I was pissed off at Do San too and with the way today's episode ended I am dreading a love triangle which will be so bad.
And what a waste of potential in case of In Jae. That character had a hell lot of potential and what have they done to her ??? I hope the show redeems her arc soon...

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What I hate the most about how drama is treating InJae is that it is DalMi the one that EVERY SINGLE TIME is mean to her sister: first by addressing her by a name that's no longer her name, then lying to her and trying to be someone she isn't, and in episode 7 assuming she used her influences to get a sponsor... and still, it is InJae the evil sister? No, just no. Stop it, please. InJae has enough potential not be just a filler.
And the love triangle? I'm not invested at all in the love story, mainly because I'm not really liking DalMi or DoSan. Do San is everything commented here and DalMi seems to be just something these two guys are fighting for.
Please, please, please... can we have some female character development? Pleeeeaaaaasseeeeeeeee?

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It seems like I am not the only really annoyed by today's episode. This love triangle thing sucks. Bigtime - it does not fit the show. And I am sick of Dal-Mi assuming the worst about In Jae at every turn and being mean just because she feels inferior. She could learn a lot from her sister, but instead the writer turned into this stupid good sister/bad sister thing.

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I mean it would be safe to assume that maybe In Jae left with mom because she knows how much Dal Mi loves her dad. That’s something I bet In Jae would do. She loved her little sister and her little sister never knew that because In Jae was a tsundere. I love her so much. Dal Mi should open her eyes and look at her sister, and not at a person who she assumes is her competition. I’m so mad this episode that the show made In Jae lurk and listen to Ji Pyeong and Neck Cushion CEO about how NCC expects the Sandbox girl to be someone who doesn’t think money is everything. And then she turns around and tells Dal Mi to go after money?? That’s one of the stupidest moves ever. It’s like the Show knows that everyone is sympathizing with In Jae and goes like “... but wait.. that’s the wrong sister.. here, I’ll make In Jae bad and opportunistic so now everyone will start liking Dal Mi !”

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I totally agree with you about InJae protecting DalMi. I commented this elsewhere in this thread. I mean: she was the one fighting for her family, trying to convince mum that they must stick together and while I was watching episode 1 I was surprised that she didn't pick dad, because she loved her dad so much. In fact, the first time she heard Neck Cushion Ceo about the girl and the sand she opened her eyes and call her dad "apa". She loved her dad so much, and the show is trying to make us believe she didn't, and she only cared for money. The way she confronted her stepdad about their former dog gives you an idea of how much she's suffered and how much she had to bend to live in that family.

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Even if Injae said it, it was Dalmi’s decision to go after the money herself. Nobody forced her. She should stop playing the victim game. Everything that had happened to her was her decision. The writer need to make up her mind on Dalmi’s character as she is becoming irritating. I get that it is realistic that a character is flawed but for some reason I cant empathize with her ..

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Right !!!! Dal Mi had so much to learn from In Jae but now the show gave her a 360 degree demotion to the evil sister. So annoying !!!! I agree with you on the lack of female character development too. I mean how can we as viewers invest in a FL if she doesnot show even a little growth as a charcter.

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@123gog45 My girl! Those were my feelings too!!!! It felt like he stole that kiss? Like everything is just an opportunity born out of 15 years he DID NOT EARN. For all her energy and charisma, Dal Mi is not one to open up to relationships easily. She's bold, but not when it comes to romantic relationships. It feels as though Do San is only getting as far as he is with her because of the foundation laid down by 15 years of letters and companionship.

Would she still find him attractive without the letters? Sure, he's a hunk, but there's little chance she'd be as forthcoming with him as she is now. This was a very annoying episode!

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I have the feeling that DalMi is not totally unaware of who JiPyeong is. Sometimes, the way he looks at him, is like she already knew and was waiting for him to say something.
I also felt the kiss was stolen and felt totally flat to me.
I can't see them as a couple. I know they will end up together, but I can't see it. As much as I ADORE Nam JooHyuk (I'm watching for him), it's not just that I don't like DoSan, because I like it when he's a nerd, but I don't feel him like a guy in love, because it brings our his worst part.
I just can't believe that the drama that will end the "first love" trope (that is one of my most hated tropes) will be this one.

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Funny how I disliked the first love trope until this show lol Please Writer-nim, stick to the rules this one time! I was never a fan of how the guy would end up "getting the girl" just because he spoke to her when they were 5 years old. Even more annoying if they went to the same school OR were family friends. My heart skipped a beat when Do San first saw Halmoni because for a brief moment I wondered if she recognized him from a prior meeting when he was a kid, as though this would be the TRUE first love. I'm glad and sad that it was their run-in at the hospital that caused the tension.

I really admire Do San as a developer and want him to succeed, but in my mind he's not the right romantic lead for Dal Mi. Nam Do San seems brilliant separately, but picturing him with Dal Mi turns my stomach.

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I too initially watched it for Nam Joo Hyuk because I didn’t know that Kim Seon Ho was gonna be in it. Lol. But after watching School Nurse Files I fell so much in love with Nam Joo Hyuk that when I saw that there is gonna be another series with him as the main i was like “BRING IT ON !!”

But from episode one onwards i fell in love with Ji Pyeong and now I can’t overcome it. It’s a good decision I made because Ji Pyeong is one of the best characters ever. He’s gorgeous (THOSE DIMPLES KILL ME EVERYTIME), wealthy (by his own might), he’s an orphan (this gets me everytime, bring on heroes who are orphans and I’ll love them forever), he’s a mentor, he’s intelligent, he actually cares for Dal Mi, HE HAS A BLOODY HISTORY WITH DAL MI AND HALMONI.

When Do San tried to send Ji Pyeong from not having dinner at Dal Mi residence i was so so so so so so FUCKING pissed because what right does Do San have to say that?? Ji Pyeong is the person who belongs there and even if it was made for comedy sake i was so pissed with Do San. And the kiss cemented it. And just like you all are saying, it does seem stolen. I was just staring at the kiss and was like “okay move on. Let’s go. Let’s see what Ji Pyeong or In Jae are doing. STOP KISSING ALREADY AND MOVE ON!”. That kiss DIDNT sway me at all. At all. It was like watching two fish. Sorry, not sorry.

That cameo of Se Yoon (Seon Ho’s 2DN1 buddy) is the only thing that made me laugh this episode. And when Ji Pyeong accidentally sniffed the garbage bag. LOL.

To me, the best chemistry so far is with Ji Pyeong and Yong Shil. Nothing else. The chemistry between Ji Pyeong and Dal Mi is also good, but Suzy needs to work on the eyes more and see through him. SEE THROUGH HIM FOR GODS SAKE AND SEE THE BOY YOU FELL IN LOVE WITH!!!!!!!

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@sailorgirl, Sometimes it feels like Do San is taking more than just credit from Ji-Pyeong for writing the letters, but he seems to be squeezing himself in to take affection from the Grandma that she would have given Ji-Pyeong. He's taking Dal-MI (even though Ji-Pyeong had tried hard to get Do San to stop seeing her at the end of the first meeting). For Ji-Pyeong, those two are his only family at all and Do San, who already has family and close friends, seems to want to shut off Ji-Pyeong's connection to those that he has loved.

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Exactly. And giving three RGB sponges to grandma isn’t going to make her love Do San more than Ji Pyeong. Let’s be real. That part made me laugh. He’s trying to get Dal Mi AND Halmoni. He’s trying to steal Ji Pyeong’s only family. This is what pisses me off so much. Dal Mi and Halmoni are Ji Pyeong’s only family. Ever since episode 1. And now Do San wants to steal them too? Not just the girl but her grandma too? That’s not gonna happen, Show. Turn it around before you become the most hated TV show ever.

Do San already has his parents and two amazing friends and he won CODA. What more does he want? He shouldn’t forget the fact that Dal Mi looks at him because of those letters. The way she looked away when he told her that he was a loser when he wrote the letters speaks VOLUMES. She’s in love with her penpal. Not with the live and kicking version next to her knitting. The show is trying to make Do San so adorable that we will have to forget about perfection that is Ji Pyeong and fall for Do San but strangely none of that is working on me. Do San is so annoying for me. He’s everywhere when Dal Mi is walking. He’s trying to keep Dal Mi and Ji Pyeong away. WHAT RIGHT DO YOU FUCKING HAVE??

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@heartoppaya Yes, that is exactly how I feel about it!! I dislike Do San. I hate his possessiveness and his determination to remove Ji Pyeong having any affection from Dal Mi and Halmoni.

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I actually do mind Do San trying to romance Dal Mi, because, she’s not his property. That loose thread on Dal Mi’s head scene (where did she go to get that on her head?!) and when Do San became alpha male on Ji Pyeong. I wanted to punch him. Ji Pyeong created him, and now he’s showing that he has the upper hand. The fuck, dude? You’re basically in this story because of the letter JI PYEONG WROTE not because Dal Mi fell for you because of your awkwardness. You’re reserving a seat in hell for that move and many others. No matter how much you knit, you’re not my hero. No sir. Now get off.

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There was one more scene that got on my nerves. The opening scene where Do San asked JP will revealing the secret behind letters can change anything. I swear I had to pull myself from punching him on the screen. Dude !!! The only reason you are in the picture and in Dal Mi's life is because of the letters. How high do you think of yourselves that the letters won't be of any difference now?

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It seems I am not the only one. I could not even finish episode 7 in 1 sitting because I had to throw things. I was holding out hope thst the writer will do this differently. Too bad.

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Do Do Sol: So she finds out about the age thing and is upset. Joon goes home. All the other stuff was just filler. C'mon writer, do better.

I am determined to jump back into 9 Tailed Fox this week.

C-drama: General's Wife: I started though I have heard that fans of the book think the comedic tone of the drama is all wrong. The joy of not reading these books is that I am not always saying, the book is better. I have enough of that experience so I feel their pain.

Disney - The Mandalorian- My family talked me into watching season 1 so we could watch season 2 together. Within the first five minutes of S1's first episode, I told my husband, "So basically this is a Western". Yup it is but enjoyable nonetheless, and it is getting all too rare to find something we can sit down and enjoy together.

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@sorrynotsorry,
Re DO DO. I wasn't worried about the plot until the last 2 episodes. I agree with your concerns about writer-nim. In episode 9 I was really annoyed the way the whole Min-jae competition sequence was written. I am waiting for the recap to vent.
With the age reveal made in episode 10 that leaves 6 episodes and what will writer-nim do?

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Yes, please come back to the foxy side! I know some beanies were unsure about it finding its footing, but this week's episodes were stellar, and I think we're on a solid path now.

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This week's episodes of NINE TAILED were particularly good.

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The Mandalorian instantly reminded me of Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid.

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Tale of the Nine-Tailed 9-10: Absolutely too emotional this week including Ah-eum's death (but I hope Ah-eum will having a mysterious comeback soon). During the distracted foxes scene, this was one of my favorite TotNT moments because of my wasted addiction of CGIs and SFXs... so I felt TotNT was kinda looked like will reaching into the climatic final fights during the final two weeks so I'm bracing for so many foxes of doom up to final episode.

Start-Up 5-6: I loved the episode six (Key Man)'s mysterious ending that I kept guessing and figuring it out who's behind the hooded person who plotted to revenge Sansan director Sun-hak (let's hope to kill her). I might think it coulda be a villain or school dropout or a hacker. Hmmmmm...

Delayed Justice/Fly Dragon 1-2: This was a good humorous show where I gonna cry for the next episodes' childhood memories to unbreaking my heart with a lot of funny and best friendships, a slice of fitting bromances, an escapable little number of villains and of course a confusing crime cases. I gonna look forward for my good luck on solving the funny problems.

Kairos 3-4: My tears still flowing episode after episode... due to many emotional time-travel so I need more emotional scenes until the final episode plus I want more outstanding action scenes that Shin Sung-rok can do for himself. Good luck for more SSR action scenes and I'm excited to see more of his great voices.

Birthcare Center 1-2: I wonder who is Mr. Graham... he's a male foreigner when he sees a mothers from the Birthcare Center residences? I'm confused him...
On the other hand, Birthcare Center should be ended with dramedy with too much fun of getting the easiest scenes. Ahhh... thank God, I now on a quick relief because of so many comfortable mothers across Birthcare Center hotel rooms.

Penthouse 3-4: I love the opera scenes and a fireworks scenes but fortunately, there were sextet that began a lot of society wars and I hope the war will be ongoing to the end of Penthouse. Party scenes were glamorous and elegant but I loved the expensive props and even shiny mens suits. I still having like an easiest relaxation here in titular place until the end of this show.

Private Lives 9-10: Mr. and Mrs. Smith-like reunion was one of my greatest Private Lives moments. There were now five swindlers and before that, I liked the fighting scenes and of course, the politicians so I hope there'll be a fiercest showdowns between the swindlers and the governmental people during the final weeks ahead.

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My illustrated clues I found on mysterious Start-Up episode 6 epilogue's mysterious man:
https://www.dramabeans.com/activity/p/1161279/

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Start Up: I love Do San's character, mainly because I haven't seen any character like him in kdramas or even elsewhere. I like Do San, I like Dal Mi but I dont like them as a couple (yet). Also show I'm taking a chance having faith in you, so please dont turnyour female characters into caricatures. Explore In Jae, you have character growth jackpot right there.
Tale of the Nine Tailed: Best week since its debut week. Restored my faith in this show. Also really liked how it emphasises on helping yourself out cause no one can do it for you

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Agree with you about Do San, I like him a lot and am not getting that although a lot of posters seem to be venting about Episode 7, which I haven't seen yet. There is a lot of talk about how he doesn't "deserve" a relationship with Dal-mi or Grandma, that he is being conniving and alpha-male (confused because kdramas abound with them) and possessive.
The way I see it, he is operating from a place of low-self-esteem. He is trying to prove to Dal-mi that he is more than just a fine set of hands, and that includes proving to Granny that he is not just a fictional character she and JP made up from a newspaper clipping. He is also trying to stand up to JP after that huge smackdown JP gave him about not being CEO material and wasting his friends' lives. That's a lot on his plate, in addition to solving all of the tech issues. As for JP, I love his snark and his brutal honesty but he needs to grow up emotionally and apply that honesty to his personal life, as well. He's supposed to be the grown-up in the room.

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Too many people are forgetting that neither of our male leads are drawn from the K-drama shelf of standard characters. While this writer has added other elements to the story and discarded the dueling/battlefield danger element (although the addition of revenge seeker may be a way of restoring the physical danger element) in his re-working of Rostand's CYRANO DE BERGERAC he is in fact staying very true to the characters of the three leads (the character of In-jae, the fourth lead is new as she is a new character). Rostand in turn drew on real people who lived 250 years before his play. The handsome Christian suffers from low self-esteem, just as Do-san does. He is painfully aware of how far short he falls from the man in the letters to Roxanne, just as Ji-pyeong is painfully aware of being an orphan. And a painful honesty was the hallmark of Cyrano, yet his low self-esteem lead him into his dishonesty with Roxanne.

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Reply 1988 (18/20):@sc325 I underestimated No-Eul. He is the cute dongsaeng yes, but he also catches on quickly, has an amazing voice, and college gave him abs and a nice haircut.😍My sun only has the vocal part down, but singing Stevie Wonder makes more than up for it!☀️❤️The time skip did wonders for appearances and relationships of many characters. Jung-Bong and Mi-Ok lost touch but found each other again, the Taek and Sun-Woo households merged into a warm family and Jin-Joo makes sure that everybody walks in line.💪 It was also nice to see Trash Oppa again.❤️What stood out for me these last few episodes is how sacred watching movies together is to our guys. Ever seen a group of guys voluntarily cuddle up under pink blankets to watch ‘Dirty Dancing’ together without a female nearby to blame it on?😆They were more awkward to watch ‘Forrest Gump’ together in public, but still. The most relatable thing however, is meeting up with friends and unanimously deciding to nap on the spot, because life is that exhausting.😆

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