I didn't shoot down any other shows @arabesque. I just shared an interview snippet. The PD was asked the question and he answered it so well (you should read the interview). I don't know why are you saying ratings don't lie. No one even said ratings are a lie.

But it is known that Penthouse IS made with ratings in mind...the writer is a ratings magnet, just look at her track record 😅. Even I watch it. I watch both Kairos and Penthouse. What about you? What are you watching?

That's a twisted way to view my comment. It deserves better ratings means it deserves more viewers...that is all. It doesn't mean steal viewers from other shows (how did you come to this conclusion is beyond me).

> By wanting one show to do better, the other show needs to do poorly, does it not?
........what? I never said this. This is your own assumption.

And dramas can have high ratings across the board...the last time I recall this happened was in 2019 when Liver or Die and The Last Empress aired on the same day and both got >15% ratings.

@Arabesque

Sorry but I can't see how my comments or those of @katakwasabi can be construed as being disrespectful of Penthouse's success, especially as Kairoskat specifically included the part of the interview where Kairos' PD stated that Penthouse is "the work of a great writer and a stylish production team". Of course every writer etc wants their show to be a hit, but some shows do take more risks while other shows focus more on tried and tested means of gaining viewers. Just because we think Penthouse belongs in the latter category doesn't mean we think it's a bad show.

> As I said, just give respect for other shows that are doing well instead of belittling its success.

..........no one is belittling any drama or showing no respect to it's ratings. You seem to have planted in your mind that I'm belittling Penthouse....which I'm not. This conversation is going nowhere...so lets change it a bit...are you enjoying Penthouse too? Who do you think will die next? Do you think Min Seol-A will somehow return alive? Any theories? And have you watched Kairos? If you haven't, do give it a try.

@Arabesque

"By wanting one show to do better, the other show needs to do poorly, does it not?"

But why should that be? Why can't both shows do well? So far, the total number of viewers of both Kairos and Penthouse make up less than 20% of the audience share even though they are in different time slots. As @katakwasabi mentioned, KBS's Liver or Die and SBS's The Last Empress overlapped in Feb 2019 and were shown at exactly the same time, yet each managed to get more than 10% during most of those overlapping episodes. The 21 Feb ratings: Liver 14%, Empress 16%.

Omg what did I just read? Whatever you are smoking @arabesque I want some because you are off in your own reality right now.

You are putting words in peoples mouths. Just stop and actually read their comments because you are making huge assumptions and trying to pick a fight for some reason. Just accept that Kat seems to really be enjoying Kairos and wants it to do well. As simple as that.

Also, just because someone wants a drama they enjoy to do well doesnt mean they want another to fail. And just because Kat might be loving Kairos and only find Penthouse ok doesn't mean she was putting down Penthouse. You might find it surprising to know people can and do have different opinions. Respect that and stop trying to pick a fight where there was none. 🙄

@Arabesque I have no idea why you are thinking this way, but higher ratings for Kairos does not equate to pulling the ratings for Penthouse down. Since you are not taking @katakwasabi's explanation, then perhaps you can take mine. I am not watching Penthouse or Kairos, but looking at what Kat said, "But it is known that Penthouse IS made with ratings in mind..." it could mean that the writer knows what the audience wants and how to keep them glued to the screen.

For example, there is a reason why makjang dramas are well-loved by the masses. They follow a fixed format (birth secrets, family feud, etc.), which is a sure-win formula for the people who watches the dailies. And such dramas are MADE for them. Now, back to Penthouse and the writer making this with the ratings in mind. I don't know the writer well, I might have seen her works, but I can't point out. But she knows what works and what doesn't. She knows what is the formula to entice her audience to keep watching or to attract the regular audience. And this can be seen from the drama's ratings.

Kairos wise, it's content and the plot might not entice the regular day-to-day audience. But that does not mean that its quality is sub-par. It means to say that the show probably deserves more people to appreciate the drama (aka ratings as a barometer). And that is exactly what Kat wants - for more people to appreciate a well-produced drama.

To consolidate what I am saying, I am not putting down any drama, if we are talking about eligibility, I am not qualified since I am not watching any. But rather, both dramas obviously target a different group of audience. Penthouse possibly your average drama-watcher which constitutes of the masses. These people probably don't want to think too much into the plot and take whatever is shown. Kairos on the other hand, seemed to me as a drama that involves lots of thinking and guessing who will be the perpetrator (again, I am not watching so I wouldn't know), which won't be appealing for someone who is looking for a drama that literally feeds them with information.

By wishing Kairos has higher ratings, does not mean pulling the ratings of Penthouse down. It could mean increasing the number of people to watch Kairos, and not converting people who are watching Penthouse to watch Kairos. See what I mean?

Yes, Beanies have different takes on different shows. I remember The King so fondly because I was among the minority who actually enjoyed its light (and confusing) plot as well as picturesque scenes and beautiful things and characters. I enjoyed it so much I tried to make others ‘turn off their brain’ in order to enjoy it too and I didn’t have any problem with it when people didn’t. It was pretty funny to be honest.

As long as you like something it’s fine regardless of how others feel about it. They are shows after all.