Record of Youth: Episode 12
by lovepark
As the more famous our actor gets, the harder it becomes for him to shield his loved ones from the ugly side of the entertainment industry. Though he wants to shoulder his burdens by himself, he inadvertently pushes people away, which makes them feel lonely. Despite the good intentions, the consequences of his choices only deepen the rifts forming in his relationships.
EPISODE 12 RECAP
Hye-joon hears from Jia about her upcoming interview, and after hanging up, he yells at Hae-hyo for not telling him beforehand. Upset by his friend’s outburst, Hae-hyo argues that the old Hye-joon would have been grateful for the help, but Hye-joon thinks Hae-hyo is the one who has changed.
Hae-hyo vents about both of his friends since one is too busy hanging out with his girlfriend while the other is dating his sister. When Hye-joon isn’t surprised by the news, Hae-hyo realizes that he was the only one kept in the dark and leaves feeling betrayed. Having witnessed the entire fight, Min-jae marvels at how civil their argument went, and tells Hye-joon to thank Jia, regardless.
Rewinding back a bit, Jia met with Hae-hyo to set up her interview because she wanted to protect Hye-joon. She realized that he was the real deal, and now that she couldn’t have him, she wanted him even more. Hae-hyo was happy to hear that at least one thing wasn’t going well for her, but Jia smiled at his taunts, knowing fully well that he should want her to succeed.
Young-nam oversees the construction for Hye-joon’s new room but gets kicked out since he needs to rest his shoulder. However, when Jang-man goes upstairs to check on his friend, he only finds Gramps in the house. He tells Gramps about Young-nam’s bad shoulder and guesses that he’s embarrassed to face Hye-joon after being unsupportive all these years.
On his way out, Gramps runs into Young-nam and asks for a ride to the modeling academy. Though Young-nam refuses, he ends up driving anyways, and Gramps sighs at his son’s bad habit of speaking negatively. Young-nam jokes that he would be too perfect then, and the pair chuckle at his comment.
However, the rare moment of goodwill quickly dampens when Gramps hits a sore spot and mentions Young-nam’s homely looks. Reiterating the difference between father and son, the instructor at the academy mistakes Young-nam for a manager, and Young-nam looks hurt by the implications of her comment.
As they discuss Gramps’ new television commercial, she asks Young-nam if he could buy some drinks, but Gramps doesn’t want his son to go. Young-nam takes issue with Gramps, and the two of them start bickering with the instructor awkwardly caught in the middle. In the end, she offers to buy them, leaving Gramps feeling mortified by their behavior.
Kyung-mi drops by and finds Ae-sook scowling at the negative comments about Hye-joon’s recent win. As a proud member of multiple Hye-joon fan clubs, Kyung-mi notifies the others in order to raise funds to sue for defamation and complains about Jjamppong being inefficient.
Remembering why she came, Kyung-mi hands Ae-sook a bag of side dishes, and Ae-sook thanks her since Young-nam has been busy with the renovations. Kyung-mi is shocked to hear that Young-nam is still working and nearly spills the beans about his shoulder before catching herself in time.
Hae-na avoids Yi-young’s calls and sneaks out of the house to meet Jin-woo. To her dismay, Yi-young sees through her schemes, but contrary to Hae-na’s concerns, Yi-young gives her approval of them dating. However, there’s a catch: no marriage.
The condition irks Hae-na, but Yi-young won’t budge on the matter. Just as she obeyed her parents, she expects Hae-na to listen, too. If that isn’t the case, Yi-young knows a few restrictions are enough to bring her kids back in line, so she starts off small by taking away Hae-na’s car keys. With a smile, she congratulates her daughter for entering the real world.
Jia meets with Reporter Kim who speaks to her informally. Though angered by the latter’s attitude, Jia bites back her usual retorts and addresses the camera amicably.
After the little spat with her mom, Hae-na meets with Jin-woo and tells her that Yi-young isn’t opposed to their dating. She realized for the first time that she might not be able to beat her, which isn’t a surprise to Jin-woo.
He believes dating is fantasy while marriage is reality, and Hae-na stares at him intently. She says that he’s more rational than she gave him credit for, and he explains that it’s because he loves her. His nonchalant declaration stuns her, so he teases her for falling in love with him again until a call from Hye-joon interrupts their moment.
Jia stops by the Jjamppong office, so Min-jae steps out to give them some privacy. Hye-joon cuts to the chase and lets her know that he doesn’t want her in his life, but Jia points out that she always did the opposite of what he wanted. She recognizes that they can’t be together as lovers or friends, and wishes they could at least act comfortably around each other.
She tells him that she was happy to see him succeed, so she couldn’t stand by and watch other people try to bring him down since only she has that right. With that, Jia no longer feels indebted towards him for testing his love while they dated, and Hye-joon is surprised that she even felt that way. She acknowledges her fault in the matter, but even so, she reminds him that she still has a heart.
At her salon, Jung-ha is busy with a client and misses Hae-hyo’s call. While he’s thinking of her, someone else is thinking of him: Do-ha. Sitting in Tae-soo’s office, Do-ha is still fixated with Hae-hyo’s follower count and tells Tae-soo his theory about Hae-hyo buying followers. When Tae-soo asks why he’s so concerned about it, Do-ha explains that he feels nice knowing that the rich stoop to lowly tricks as well.
Yi-young steels herself to fire Kyung-mi when she drops off the food, but the words don’t leave her lips easily since Kyung-mi is a splendid cook. Once Kyung-mi starts listing off the next set of dishes she should prepare, Yi-young smiles at the thought of yummy food and then curses herself for wavering.
Kyung-mi encourages Yi-young to cheer up after eating good food, and Yi-young snaps at her to not make assumptions because she’s totally not upset… like, at all. Her snarky comments fly over Kyung-mi’s head as does her weak attempts to fire her. Yi-young tells Kyung-mi not to come back after she leaves, and then feels proud for accomplishing the task. Pffft.
Hae-hyo drops by Jung-ha’s salon and gloats about setting up a meeting for her with a female celebrity. Successfully earning some brownie points, he asks if she wants to eat with him, but Jung-ha has filming tonight.
She broaches the topic of Hye-joon, and he tells her that they met recently, although he’s upset with his friend for only paying attention to his girlfriend lately. He asks when she last saw him, but she’s only been texting him.
He wonders if their relationship is as solid as she claims, so Jung-ha explains that she’s waiting for him to bring it up first. Though waiting isn’t her forte, she’s changed for him. Hae-hyo notes how she must really love him, and offers to drive her home in his stead.
Hye-joon drinks beer with Jin-woo and sulks when enlistment is mentioned. Jin-woo asks about his upcoming drama with Hae-hyo, which reminds Hye-joon of their fight over Jia’s interview. Hearing that, Jin-woo asks what will happen if Jung-ha sees it, and Hye-joon looks up in shock.
Hae-na shows Hae-hyo the clip of Jia’s interview, but he’s more interested in Jung-ha’s upcoming video. It’s titled “Confession,” and someone in the chat asks if it’s about her boyfriend. Jung-ha admits that it is, but stops the recording when Hye-joon calls.
He apologizes to her first and then explains the situation about the article. By the time Jung-ha returns to her live broadcast, only two people remain. Unable to rescind her previous statement, Jung-ha calls her audience her boyfriend and offers a voucher to her salon.
At Hye-joon’s insistence, the friends get up to meet Hae-hyo but are stopped by a couple of women who ask for pictures with Hye-joon. He agrees as long as they promise not to upload it online, but once he turns the corner, they post it with the caption that Hye-joon was drinking with his boyfriend. Ugh.
Jung-ha watches Jia’s interview as does Hye-joon’s family. The parents dryly comment on Kyung-joon’s lack of girlfriends, so Kyung-joon accuses them of receiving money from Hye-joon. Ae-sook and Young-nam exchange silent glances, and we see that Hye-joon did, indeed, send them money.
Along with the money, Hye-joon sent Ae-sook a text, asking her if she remembered his promise from middle school. He told her that he would earn lots of money to support her, and she agreed to do the same for him.
While Young-nam marveled at the sight of Hye-joon making more in a year than he’s ever made in his entire career, Ae-sook pointed out that it actually took much longer. Feeling guilt over not keeping her promise, Ae-sook told Young-nam that she didn’t want to accept it.
Back in the present, Ae-sook and Young-nam ask Gramps if he knows Min-jae’s number, but Gramps is against the idea of them pressuring the company, especially if it’s coming from Young-nam. Despite Gramps’ disapproval, Young-nam calls Min-jae and asks when their contract is over. She tells him that they actually need to renew and asks if Hye-joon said anything bad about working with her.
On their way to meet Hae-hyo, Jin-woo wonders if Hye-joon should meet with Jung-ha first, but Hye-joon feels more embarrassed about his situation in front of those he loves. It hurts his self-esteem to know that his loved ones are reading his negative comments, but in Hae-hyo’s case, Hye-joon feels a sense of kinship with him. Jin-woo adorably asks if Hye-joon is embarrassed in front of him, but Hye-joon pushes his friend towards Hae-hyo who’s waiting in the park.
Seeing Jin-woo, Hae-hyo asks why he kept the relationship a secret, and Jin-woo laughs since he doesn’t have a death wish. Hae-hyo doesn’t refute since he plans on hitting him at least once. Jin-woo happily offers either cheek, and Hae-hyo pushes him, instead. Flailing on the ground, Jin-woo cries for Hye-joon, but their friend is nowhere in sight.
Taking Jin-woo’s advice, Hye-joon goes to meet Jung-ha and has another drink on the couch with her. He tells her that his friends were complaining about him not paying attention to them, and she mentions that Hae-hyo said the same thing to her. Hearing how Hae-hyo has helped with her business, Hye-joon wonders if he might lose his spot, but Jung-ha assures him that he’s always number one. He tells her that he loves her, and she responds in kind.
He asks if she saw Jia’s interview, and Jung-ha admits that she felt bad after watching it. She asks why he never comes to her about these things, so he explains how he only wants to show her the good parts. She angrily retorts that he’s treating her like his child, and tells him that his loved ones want to share in his pain. In response, he inches closer to her on the couch and holds out his hand. Once she grabs it, he tells her that he loves her more than she thinks.
Min-jae sighs over the still negative comments section before dropping by Hye-joon’s place early in the morning. Unbeknownst to Hye-joon, Young-nam asked to meet her. He’s curious about how the company is dealing with Hye-joon’s issue, so she tells them that they’re filing a lawsuit.
Kyung-joon comes out, asking Min-jae for a ride, but Hye-joon puts a stop to it. He then pulls Young-nam aside for a private word and tells his dad to speak through him from now on. He doesn’t want him to hurt Min-jae’s feelings, and Young-nam agrees, though he’s not keen on the idea.
Hae-hyo greets Ae-sook at his house, and they talk about his upcoming drama with Hye-joon. He says that he’s only a supporting role, but Ae-sook believes such divisions are pointless as long as the part is good. He asks about Yi-young, and Ae-sook tells him that she went out—though she surmises that it must be an unwelcome meeting.
Ae-sook’s hunch turns out to be true as Yi-young frowns at the sight of Tae-soo. She’s angry at him for deceiving her about the casting, but Tae-soo calls it a joke. He claims that everyone uses tricks, including Hae-hyo and his inflated follower count. Yi-young denies the accusations and informs him that today is their last meeting. Tae-soo won’t fall off that easily, though, and calls her noona. Yuck.
Hye-joon has an interview to promote his upcoming drama First Human, which he’s costarring with an old modeling friend. Said friend is actor Jin Seo-woo (cameo by Lee Sung-kyung) who dances in a studio when Hye-joon enters. She tells him to stay away, but Hye-joon confidently marches to her side and tells her that she can’t be without him, either. He pulls her into a hug… and the director calls cut.
Immediately, the two actors drop out of character and joke around. Hye-joon notes her makeup needs some touchup, and she tells him that her regular artist is on maternity leave. He offers to introduce her to someone else, and she correctly guesses it’s his girlfriend. While she gets Jung-ha’s number, they don’t notice a camera still filming them.
Despite his busy schedule, Hye-joon is happy for the work as he prepares for his next scene. Today, Hae-hyo is also on set with Jung-ha, and from afar, they watch Hye-joon surrounded by his staff. Hae-hyo’s manager shares a Chinese idiom, and Jung-ha interprets for Hae-hyo. She describes it as the feeling of drastic change, which accurately captures how they feel about Hye-joon, now.
With the shoot about to begin, Hae-hyo calls out to his friend, and they joke around for a bit. As the actors move on ahead, Min-jae calls Jung-ha to the side and explains the situation about the new makeup artist so there’s no misunderstandings between them.
Min-jae answers a call from Reporter Kim who asks if Hye-joon is dating his makeup artist. Min-jae sternly tells her not to publish fake news, but Reporter Kim’s face stiffens as she states her intentions to do her job. As Min-jae feared, Hye-joon and Jung-ha’s relationship may be revealed since Reporter Kim has photos of the couple.
During their break, the three friends walk together, and Hae-hyo jokingly accuses them of using him to cover for their date. Hye-joon tells him to play along, so Hae-hyo pulls Jung-ha to his side to make the lie convincing. They bicker about who’s side Jung-ha should be at when Seo-woo calls.
Over video chat, Hae-hyo asks if it isn’t awkward playing lovers, so Seo-woo says that they’re dating. Hye-joon balks at the joke and worriedly glances toward Jung-ha’s direction while she tries to look unbothered by the comment. Before filming resumes, Hye-joon asks Hae-hyo to take a picture of him and Jung-ha.
On their way home, Hae-hyo offers to give Jung-ha a ride to her next schedule, but she tells him that it’s fine. Early the next morning, Jung-ha rides the bus to set, and gets a text from Hye-joon. It’s their picture from the other day, and he tells her that she’s always the best. Though Jung-ha smiles, she solemnly narrates, “Out of sight, out of mind… I had faith that our relationship was solid. Trust is much more fragile than love.”
Even though the sun has fallen and half the staff is sleeping, Jung-ha’s actor has yet to film her scenes. Touching up the actor’s makeup, Jung-ha asks her to lift her head, but the annoyed actor tells her to just get it done. Jung-ha kindly explains how these little details show up on screen, so the actor complies.
By the time filming wraps, it’s pouring outside, and Hye-joon sleeps on his way to the airport for his fan meeting. Meanwhile, Jung-ha finds shelter at a bus stop, and feeling cold and alone, she remembers Hye-joon’s words about calling her on rainy days to remind her that she isn’t alone in this world. She calls him first, but he’s already on the plane and misses it.
Jung-ha sits alone at the bus stop when a car honks at her. Hae-hyo gets out with an umbrella and hands her one, too. While Hye-joon sits in his flight, Hae-hyo drives Jung-ha home. Once she arrives, she invites him inside, and Hae-hyo walks into her home for the first time.
COMMENTS
One of the main themes of this show is the idea of the haves vs have-nots. We see this contrast clearly between the two best friends who grew up in vastly different circumstances. However, the tables have turned, and now Hye-joon stands in the side of the “haves.” Unlike Hae-hyo who used to have everything, it’s now Hye-joon who has the big break, fame, and girl. However, popularity comes with its downsides, which Hye-joon quickly learns. No matter what he does, people want to believe what they think is the truth rather than facts. Unfortunately, because of his fame, it’s become harder for him to hide his troubles from his family and loved one. True to his character, Hye-joon would rather shoulder all the burden himself than inconvenience someone else, and while this similar trait with Jung-ha was something that drew the couple towards each other, now it seems to be causing a divide. The emotions that attracted them to each other may still be present, but clearly, maintaining a relationship requires more than love.
On the other hand, this role reversal for Hae-hyo might be just what he needs to grow closer to Jung-ha. In some ways, he’s experiencing similar feelings to her concerning Hye-joon in the sense that both of them feel like he’s shining too brightly and quickly for them to catch up. As a result, Hae-hyo now has a connection to Jung-ha that Hye-joon will never understand, and somewhat unconsciously, I think Jung-ha is leaning on Hae-hyo more and more for support. It also explains why Jung-ha went with Hae-hyo after the awards ceremony because it wasn’t just Hae-hyo who needed comfort in that moment—she needed it, too. Even if Hye-joon is still her number one, it’s clear that Jung-ha has opened her heart up more for Hae-hyo as depicted by the final scene where she lets him into her house, which signifies her space and identity. I wouldn’t go so far as to say that she reciprocates his feelings, but Hye-joon’s worries about being replaced don’t seem so farfetched anymore.
Besides the economical and social contrast between the Sa and Won family, the concept of have and have-nots also applies to the idea of physical looks as depicted through Young-nam and his inferiority complex. As Jung-ha mentioned in a previous episode, Young-nam knows that he isn’t good looking, and just like Kyung-joon, I think he does know the value of appearances. However, it’s not that he undervalues Hye-joon’s looks as Gramps believes, but he actively denies it because then he would have to acknowledge his own disadvantage and jealousy. Being surrounded by beautiful people, Young-nam probably knows the value of good looks more than them because he’s always on the receiving end of the negative comments. Thus, to Young-nam, it probably feels unfair to see Hye-joon make money so “easily” when he also works diligently to the point of ruining his health yet he makes a fraction of Hye-joon’s pay.
Adding salt to the wound, now Gramps is cashing in on his good looks, too, which is a surprise to Young-nam. However, even if he has felt discrimination based on looks, he channels his anger and resentment towards his family rather than the root cause of these problems. Though he felt dismissed by the academy instructor (who seemed to mean no ill-will, which only reinforces the idea that lookism has become normalized in all contexts), Young-nam yells at Gramps for making things awkward. Again, he lashes out at those he thinks he can control, but as soon as they gain more power, he submits as he does with Hye-joon.
While good looks are certainly advantageous, the show also depicts the negative costs. Through Hye-joon we see the unwanted attention he also receives because of his looks, and just as jokes at the expense of the “ugly” have become par for the course, lookism makes it so that pretty people shouldn’t voice their complaints about how they’re treated based on appearances, either. On top of that, now that Hye-joon is a celebrity, privacy becomes a luxury rather than a basic right, and people feel no shame about projecting their insecurities and jealousy onto him online. In the end, all forms of discrimination are harmful because it excuses bad behavior, and while being a celebrity ultimately means entering public scrutiny, there are certain lines that shouldn’t be crossed.
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1 panshel
October 17, 2020 at 6:10 PM
I'm going to hold off on crucifying Jung-ha for inviting her boyfriend's best friend up to her house because she would never cheat on Hye-joon, and she sees Hae-hyo as nothing but a friend. I'm going to guess Hae-hyo made up an excuse to use her restroom, and she didn't even call him to pick her up -- he called her or, better yet, just showed up. The umbrella is symbolism: Hae-hyo and Jung-ha use separate umbrellas, while Hye-joon and Jung-ha shared one umbrella.
When Hae-hyo stormed out after their fight, I cried, "And he's in love with Jung-ha!" They would've redeemed Ji-ah's character for me if she had warned Hye-joon, "Be careful of Hae-hyo with your girlfriend." As if all his wrist grabbing isn't enough, now he's brazen enough to put his arm around her shoulder in front of her boyfriend. Do Hye-joon's friends not know boundaries? One sleeps with the other's little sister, and one covets the other's girlfriend.
Every time Jung-ha sees Hye-joon, she says she misses him, and according to Hae-hyo, Hye-joon spends all his free time with her, but clearly it's not enough, and she still feels lonely. But girl, please take your own advice to share your burden with him. Hiding it would only disappoint him.
I fully expect them to break up next week with Jung-ha as the one to do it. From Hye-joon's confession "I love you more than you think," he's not going to want to break up with her because she's the only person who makes him happy. Lee Sung-kyung was my favorite cameo. She was totally playing herself. Seo-woo is so quick knowing right away Hye-joon was promoting his make-up artist girlfriend. Jung-ha ought to understand Hye-joon is just acting, but he ought to have introduced Seo-woo to her during their awkward video call.
"Tell me you're embarrassed in front of me. That means you love me, right?" was the cutest, but after those wenches posted Hye-joon's photo on Instagram, wow, would Jin-woo's aegyo have caused a misunderstanding. Thanks a ton for recapping, @lovepark!
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candilane
October 17, 2020 at 6:58 PM
LOL, Hae Hyo probably asked to use the bathroom?😂🤣😂🤣.. you really seem to dislike Hae Hyo.
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Ally
October 17, 2020 at 7:09 PM
Lol @ bathroom! I’m still laughing. Must tag @saya.
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clouds and dream
October 18, 2020 at 3:36 AM
totally agree, in fact.. It is normal that someone asks you to use the bathroom in the middle of the night, and in fact she smiles happy that it can be useful to him, the bathroom 😂
But, really, I can't stand this girl's personality, how can she win the lottery and wait for the ticket to fade before using it
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candilane
October 19, 2020 at 8:37 AM
I wasnt going to say anything but I cant help myself about who called whom.. 😁
Also, I guess HH didn't have to go to the bathroom.. lol 😂🤣
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2 Rachel2
October 17, 2020 at 6:18 PM
This show gets better as it goes on. I like how it depicts the whole trajectory of fame, from the struggle to success to all the problems that come with success. I really felt the angst this week. In the beginning, the family storylines did not interest me, but now I think all the characters make for for richer storytelling. You can see how Hye-Joon's fame affects everyone around him, for better or worse.
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3 candilane
October 17, 2020 at 7:19 PM
I don't know what the ending will be but my position remains the same. Its possible all 3 will go their separate ways ( I hope not) or Jeong Ha will have to choose. If its a choice, I think that Hae Hyo may get the girl.
I have always maintained that 1. Jeong Ha and Hye Jun's relationship moved way to fast 2. There relationship seems more like best friends than lovers. Do I think they love each other, Yes, do I think they are " In Love".. Absolutely not. They are more comfortable with each other like forever friends.
Although, I love Hye Jun, he doesn't prioritize Jeong Ha for me. HJ missed her text when she needed him ( a direct parallel for when she was there for him when he needed her), He didn't even think to call her before the Ji-A interview aired, it was Jin U who told him that she would probably see it THEN he called. It was also Jin U who told him to go visit her ( I mean your girlfriend just saw your ex on TV talking about your relationship and your friend has to tell you to visit???). Hye Jun only thinks to use his fame and connections to help his girlfriend after Hae Hyo does it, lol.
Hye Jun and Hae Hyo manner of handling Jeong Ha is very different and I have said that HH is 2 steps ahead of HJ. Jeong Ha does depend on HH and I believe she did call him for a ride because I would think she knew her boyfriend was flying OUT, yes, the phone shows HJ but that is her instinct to call him FIRST but she couldnt so she probably called HH showing that HH is someone she could rely on which is very important to her. I have been slowly watching HH progress with her and his finally getting inside her apartment. HH soft, slow and steady approach is finally getting through to her. Do I think she is IN LOVE with HH right now? Nope, but do I think she is open to it now, ABSOLUTELY. HH is winning man. I think the last scene was the most beautiful in the entire episode because few words were exchanged BUT SO MUCH WAS SAID!!! I think others may have a different perspective but for me HH bringing her the umbrella to carry herself was very significant and actually speaks to how well he knows her. JA is very independent and would appreciate him respecting that ( that is what the umbrella represented to me). After watching HH dropping JA first at the corner, then to her door, now he is inside her apt is very important. As we see in the previews, I think JA will possibly begin to lean more and more on HH . Also, I notice that HH comes to JA first when something goes bad for him and he shares his burden with her first but HJ doesnt do that. Like I said HJ is so clueless is some ways. I can see JA shifting to HH in little ways ( her telling him things first, letting him in her apt, etc) and its not just HH pushing them apart, its other things like how Manager Noona handled the situation with JA ( VERY POORLY MIGHT I ADD) and taking JA away from HJ as a client. Yes, it was a smart business move but it hurt their...
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candilane
October 17, 2020 at 7:19 PM
relationship, they could have used that time to get reconnect ( laugh and love like they used too). Its a chasm between those two right now that they need to fix.. remember JA is very fickle and just because she " assured" HJ that HH wouldn't sway her, I wouldn't take that as being true because she also claimed that she wouldn't date HJ and that it wasnt good to mix fantasy and reality, so she just know she is a bit fickle and don't take her words to heart.
PS. I maintain my stance that JA father is CEO of A - JUN Entertainment.. Gosh if I am right about that it will be immensely satisfying.
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clouds and dream
October 18, 2020 at 3:30 AM
It's easy for Hae-hyo to be there all the time when someone else pays your bills and you don't have to work too hard. Hae-Hyo didn't inspire me much confidence from the start, when he did the generous one without wondering what he had done to deserve all those followers. And Jeon-ha, who used to say she was proud of her independence, now seeks Hae-hyo's support so shamelessly. I hate his naivety and repeating and repeating the loving Hye-joon doesn't matter if you're not ready to be around him in any way possible. For example, without passively waiting for him to find time to be with her, he could ask Hae-hyo to give up the exclusive contract, but he never did anything in that direction. Really, it makes me hope Hye-jon finds a girl who loves and supports him more than she does.
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candilane
October 18, 2020 at 4:57 AM
Pay your bills? Hae Hyo was making great money on his own I am sure considering all the commercials, modeling and acting gigs he got and I feel many people are blaming him for being rich.. So what if he is rich! I get that many people identify more with Hye Jun because he is a poor underdog but there is nothing wrong with having money either. I think people want to hate him because I have seen FAR WORSE 2nd male leads than HH and they havent gotten this much hate.. Matter of fact, Tae Su the ex manager, gets less hate than HH does..
Hae Hyo and Jeong Ha are more interesting characters to watch because they are so opaque. Jeong Ha does love Hye Jun but I am not confident they are 'in love'. Loving someone and being In love with them are very different. Honestly, everything is on Hye Jun know, the pendulum will swing in whatever direction based on what HJ does next. If he fights for JA, then he may get her but if he keeps being inattentive he may lose her. JA said in the very beginning what she likes and don't likes about people and being unreliable is a huge deal for her due to her upbringing.
HJ should have kept JA has his makeup artist, Manager Noona getting a new makeup artist was bad for the young couple because they could have spent time together . They need to reconnect but they can't seem to get back on track.
I am cool if they stay together and I am cool if she chooses Hae Hyo but If JA and HJ break up, honestly so what! I wouldn't be surprised if it happens and they have been hinting at it since like episode 3 or 4 but I think that them being together served a purpose. HJ was at his absolute lowest when he met JA, she was the one person in his life that was " his person" fully and 100% in his corner and he NEEDED IT.. it was like she started to breathe life back into him because he was starting to give up on all of it. JA was so closed off it wasn't even funny, she literally was not open to the possibility of love until she met HJ. People are judging JA but you have to remember HJ is her FIRST LOVE! So Yes, she is insecure especially when her FIRST LOVE is a friggin superhot superstar. However, I am glad that HJ opened her up to loving someone. Whether they stay together or go their separate ways doesnt really matter, I think its what they learned from each other that is important. I have about 10 theories about the ending that ties up the story lines (some I have shared) it will be interesting to see if it comes to fruition. My biggest concern is Hye Jun, Hae Hyo, and Jin U friendship.. I don't think it will be the same or possibly never recover. If HH and JA do end up together, then I don't think HJ will ever be able to see them again which is sad. But I guess we shall see soon enough.. I foresee a bittersweet ending
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4 Ally
October 17, 2020 at 7:20 PM
I’m also more invested at this point in the show and want to see how they all resolve their arcs, because I do think they have personality traits that need to be tweaked. Hye-Joon needs to learn how to rely on others, or allow others into his emotional space. He doesn’t want to show his vulnerability, but it’s exhausting to always take the high road. I want him to break down, beat down, so that he has to rely on Jung-ha.
And Jung-ha has to do the same, to give herself permission to fail, because girl is burning both sides of the candle right now.
And Hye-Ho should just quit and go to the military like his dad suggests. That way, by the time he gets back, Hye-Joon will have to go into derive and he won’t be competing with him for a while. And also so he doesn’t move into Hye-Joon’s girlfriend’s house. 😆
But drama begets drama and I have a feeling we’re just getting started here. Bring it on. I want some “come to Jesus“ moments.
And how cute is grandpa and dad finally? Still have a ways to go, but I can see them leaning on each other while Hye-Joon figures out this whole work and fame thing.
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Shin
October 18, 2020 at 3:34 AM
Lol! I love your "come to jesus" moment. Yes I share the same sentiment with you. I'm hoping something will explode in the last 4 episodes that will bring out the best in these actors.
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5 halofan68
October 17, 2020 at 7:35 PM
"[T]he concept of have and have-nots also applies to the idea of physical looks..."
I do find how the show explores physical attractiveness interesting. I enjoy how the focus is one male beauty (and the value society places on it) for a change, which gives the story a sense of freshness it may not actually deserve. I also can't help think of the meta aspect of a show about show business and the importance of beauty, with a character played as homely, by a fine, fine actor who has worked a ton but must have certainly been limited in his career because of his looks.
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6 geminirat
October 17, 2020 at 7:36 PM
Thanks for the recap and analysis, @lovepark! I can see how Jung-ha feels left out but I can also see how Hye-jun is prioritizing her over his friends, and Hae-hyo knows it while Jin-woo is also busy with Hae-na. I don't know how Hye-jun can shield his family and girlfriend from bad publicity - it comes with fame, and so will the sacrifices he will have to do to keep it and their relationship, too. I feel bad for Young-nam who looked down on others because of money, much like Yi-young does to Jin-woo.
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7 mintrrb
October 17, 2020 at 10:27 PM
I only skipped to the scenes of Lee Sung-Kyung . YG's practice room made a cameo too ❤️ will reconsider the drama after everything comes since I stopped after episode 11.
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8 wandering spot
October 17, 2020 at 11:21 PM
Such a disturbing episode. JH is doing the exact thing that she is told HJ not to do. Hiding her pain and burden. I still have my faith in JH that she won't be swayed by HH just coz he around her more than HJ. She is smart and thoughtful and by this time I was hoping she might have realized what HH's feeling towards her are. I genuinely want JH and HJ to pass this tough phase and mature.That will be refreshing to watch.
I am still giving benefit of doubt to HH. It's hardto see him tagging around JH everywhere mainly coz at this point it feels like he is just taking advantage of HJ's absence which is wrong on so many levels. What I wish for him to work on his career and be successful without his mother. Till he has not known what real struggle is. He smart and I hope he use it to set his career rather than buzzing around his bf's gf.
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9 Shinbin
October 17, 2020 at 11:26 PM
I like certain attributes of Hye-joon' character like his principles and his increasing love for Jung-ha, but what's lacking is the warmth and the feels we as the audience should be getting from these declarations. Why does it still feel so stiff and distant when these sweet statements are being made? Shouldn't he be smiling and acting more affectionately when he tells her that he loves her more than she thinks? Is it the character, the directing? It couldn't be the acting, can it? We've seen PBG act so sweetly and affectionately in other dramas with other amazing actresses like PSD. But why the stiffness and the emotional dryness between them? The story is getting better and I care about what happens to the main characters, but the chemistry is still lacking. It's like they are acting more from their head than their hearts. We need more feels and emotion emanating from them. I can't understand why it's not there...
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clouds and dream
October 18, 2020 at 3:28 AM
I think the lack of warmth in the last few episodes depends on the script. they want to describe a relationship that is wearing itself out. Bo Gum is the most empathic actor I know, his acting warms every atmosphere.
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Shin
October 18, 2020 at 3:44 AM
I won't blame on the actors because I feel like the problems of this show are rooted in the writing and directing. I don't even how they started to become distant to each other. One day I was on a high with them getting together then all of a sudden they've been kept apart.
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Nuth
November 24, 2020 at 4:43 PM
I feel like this has been done on purpose. There are parallels showing that they are not a perfect fit anymore. It seems that HJ cannot be there for JH when she needs him, as he is busy. There are also symbolic events that happen within the drama. After HJ and JH started having issues, it started raining again, just like it did at the beginning. Then again, it starts raining when JH is at the bus stand, and there was a flashback to when she said she felt alone when it rained. These parallels are leading me to believe that the lack of emotion is done on purpose, to symbolize the slow cracks in their relationship. It seems like this may be deeper than we all thought at the beginning.
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10 clouds and dream
October 18, 2020 at 3:14 AM
I really love this drama, the realistic portrayal of the entertainment industry stories is one of the aspects that strikes me the most about this script. The comments of haters and how they can affect the lives of actors, the envy of colleagues and the machinations of agencies, not to mention the reactions of families and the actions of journalists in search of scoop so much that they invent them even where they are not there.
I really liked the relationship between Hye-jun and Jeng-ha in the beginning, now that they are slowly moving away I suffer thinking about how they can feel, a love story that is slowly dying out is really sad.
I hate the spoiled boy behavior of Hae-hyo, who play as a fake friend and confidant, who wants to be successful and famous without spending even an iota of his energy.
I love Hye-Joon and I find Park Bo Gum's interpretation to be sensational, never seen so many nuances in one character, how he manages to immerse himself in the character of the character is just insane.
At this point there are only four episodes left and whatever happens, I'm already saddened by when there will be no more fixed appointment every Monday and Tuesday.
Unfortunately I don't particularly like the stories and the drama of the moment, apart from The moment, it's a joke.
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11 NoraebangNanzo
October 18, 2020 at 1:40 PM
I was kinda rooting for this show through all the flak it was receiving! I actually looked forward to the episodes and savoured watching them in my breaks from work. But... this episode just fell flat. There's nothing really happening and yet there's too much happening. The writing just doesnt actually flesh out things we'd wanna see fleshed out. Like Hye Jun and Jeong Ha drifting... it just came out of nowhere?
I am going to call it- EPISODE NO 12 IS WHERE THE DOWNFALL BEGINS FOR NETFLIX ROMCOM DRAMAS!!!!!!!!!
I mean think about it. That's when the whole mother bullshit started in IOTNBO. Just hoping that isn't the case for Start Up because that shit is straight-up fantastic so far and I would hate to see it go anywhere but up.
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12 dramalover4ever
October 18, 2020 at 1:58 PM
Superb recap @lovepark. You got it neatly: haves and have nots and lookism. This episode shows too how easy it is to lose control of one's relationships in this weird world of celebrity when envy kicks in. K-dramas tease out envy so well, and everyone here has their share. Jung-ha, in spite of her strength of character, showed her green face when HY and HH were talking to Seo-woo. Hae-hyo, in spite of his genuine love and care for his friend, has shown his envy on several occasions, and I still maintain that his interest in Jung-ha is a mixture of really liking her, as well as wanting whatever Hye -joon has, basically regarding it as his right. Jia now wants what she discarded (Hye-joon) because he is now famous. Even as she shows her nobility by coming forward on Hye-joon's behalf to protect him from slander, she is also thrusting herself into the spotlight and getting some fame by association. All of the parents are a study in envy, especially Jin-woo and Young-nam, even the grounded Ae-sook in her small gladiatorial battles with Yi-young. (As an exception, perhaps Hae-na and Jin-woo are, for the moment, an envy free zone.)
Then the whole celebrity thing is based on envy. Fans want a piece of the celebrity of the day, as if some of the shiny bits will rub off on them - a virtual fame by association. But it can take an ugly turn at any moment. As celebrities are only too aware, they walk a tightrope. and if suddenly they seem tarnished, then the fans turn on them, like hyenas, and tear them apart - evidence that their "so-called love" and subsequent inability to make allowances for humanness, is founded in something darker. And I haven't even mentioned Tae-soo and Do-ha. It's an icky business, especially when the good things, the things you value, such as the relationship between JA and HJ is put in jeopardy. Some may argue that if it is impacted to the extent that it is sacrificed then it wasn't strong anyway, but I'd argue that I don't know what relationship could hold out in such an insidious culture.
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candilane
October 18, 2020 at 7:51 PM
If that is the case, then why wasn't Hae Hyo interested in Ji-A? The audience forgets that Yi Young ( Hae Hyo mom) actually told the viewers why Hae Hyo likes Jeong Ha back in like episode 2 or 3 I think.. When Jeong Ha explained to Yi Young why she couldnt do her makeup Yi Young said your smart, you know your boundries.. its probably why Hae Hyo likes you. This is the first time the audience gets to here WHY Hae Hyo likes Jeong Ha so much and jealousy of Hye Jun had nothing to do with it. Look at his eyes, his love for her is 100% genuine. I think he was curious about her because she wasn't his fan and she wasnt like most girls fawning over him ( like his coworker) but I think his interest in genuine. Most guys like the girls that are not interested in them, that is not uncommon, like at all. Plus he liked her BEFORE Hye Jun did and before they were in a relationship.
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dramalover4ever
October 18, 2020 at 8:12 PM
Let's agree to disagree on this and see where the story goes.
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candilane
October 18, 2020 at 11:41 PM
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Seri
October 18, 2020 at 9:29 PM
HH mom is a classist. The haves and have nots. It’s clear from how she treats both HJ and Jin U’s mom.
So HH has genuine feelings, so what? She doesn’t have the same feelings for him. The girl he’s in love with is his best friend’s girlfriend. They have not broken up yet. Sure they have problems now. It doesn’t mean you go and steal the girl when the girl is still in a relationship. The least he could do was have some respect for them.
From that moment HH said he will “choose love over friendship” just shows HH has no moral backbone and integrity.
Just to be clear, I’m not saying HH is wrong for having feelings for Jung Ha. It’s his behavior and actions that are crossing out of line. But if you’re fine with that and want to defend HH in everything, so be it. Your perspective is just different from mine. I’m just giving my opinion :)
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candilane
October 18, 2020 at 11:39 PM
I respect different opinions but I hope the fans are open to bittersweet ending because I don't think this is going to end the way you want it too.
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dramalover4ever
October 19, 2020 at 12:13 AM
I agree about the possibility of a bitter-sweet ending. As I said, I don't know what relationship could survive in this culture.
DK-Drama 🫘 Giffing n Space Cadetting🍉🌱
August 22, 2023 at 2:56 AM
I agree that HH's love for SH has nothing to do with him being envious. He loved her early, and even when *he* was the most successful, he watched with sad eyes how this was not going his way.
He just fell in love and he still is in love. But as he maybe feels let down and unappreciated by his friend, the impossibility of actually trying to steal SH vanes.
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13 Anonymous
October 19, 2020 at 2:22 AM
"Lookism makes it so that pretty people shouldn’t voice their complaints about how they’re treated based on appearances, either", that is particularly true in Korea.
I think it was Yuri from SNSD who opened up on feeling depressed because of the pressure and expectations that come from being a celebrity, and the response was basically "Shut up, you can make millions from just taking pictures for an ad while my job is ACTUALLY hard, and I make a fraction of your salary. Stop complaining and keep entertaining us". That made me realize that most K-Celebrities probably hold in a lot inside and never express it because they know that the public won't feel sympathetic to their plight.
Koreans feel like the work celebs do is too easy for the amount of money they make, so they should just take everything thrown at them with a smile.
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14 Sarah
October 19, 2020 at 8:15 AM
I'd be happy to see HJ ends up with Jin Seo-woo. Now that I've watched ep 13, I don't see JA as a fit for HJ. The fact that she did not tell HJ about her spending time with HH means that she is well aware that she is in the wrong here..
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15 rochinipark
October 19, 2020 at 7:56 PM
I'm so behind on writing what dramas I am following in recent month since few dramas started. Am still following this, but is it because I am getting older and with some personal life happenings,making me more cynical of melo romances. Or this drama take on melo which is more youthful romance. Seeing how both the men have not gone for their military service, there will be definite time jump and I am still guessing an open ending, as marriage does ot need to be a destination of a relationship to be considered a success. E
Especially if we speak of youth in Korea these days, and seeing how they made both the men still live with their families. Many in the world due to the pandemic may be moving back in with family and that is nothing wrong with that to me.
The storyline itself, is just laying out the lives of k-stars, who any negative news is career killer, and expectation to live whiter than whitelives means no personal life expectation other than achieving career goals.
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16 pineapplegongzhu
October 20, 2020 at 8:23 AM
Suddenly the plot moves and all the step up with the intricate relationships are starting to pay off. I just wish this happened about 4 episodes ago.
I keep waiting for HJ and JA to break up so that we can have them reconcile after years apart or something, but I'm getting the distinct feeling like this is going to go the way of La La Land.
I like the realism that the struggles of youth and trying to "make it" don't just end with a successful career. As this episode showed us, new and different struggles emerge. Even the family dynamics, which you'd think would get better once the financial pressures are alleviated, are still fraught with underlying tensions.
I'm excited to see how this ends.
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17 Dubu Onew
November 17, 2020 at 1:11 PM
I enjoy this show, I do. It's not my favorite but it's a good watch. What I don't care for is that this show is showing how comfortable HH is with crossing a boundary you can't uncross. It's perfectly fine to have feelings for your friends girl but it's knowing those feels and still coming to her aid with the possibility she would open up to you for more. Because now it will always be proceed as you pawning for her. I know JH means no wrong for having HH by her side when she's down. But at the end of the day that is her boyfriends best friend; it's like how can you rely on him? Idk maybe that's how I see it because if I did this with my best friends man I would see that as very weird. I just don't like that this is a love triangle when this should not even be a option for JH. Either she stays with HJ or leaves him but HH should never be a option because in the end his best friend was with this woman for over a year. 1st) that's nasty, 2nd) he has no morals/loyalty, and 3rd) no integrity at all.
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August 22, 2023 at 2:51 AM
He is so angry his other friend is with his sister ... he should be the one to talk!
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18 DK-Drama 🫘 Giffing n Space Cadetting🍉🌱
August 22, 2023 at 2:47 AM
I am watching the show and skimming the recaps to the same episodes that I see, so right now I don't know how it will end. Bit obviously, Kyung-joon is gay. He may not come out in the show, but his uncomfortable silence around the subject is due to more than just not having a girlfriend, for sure.
In some shows, the writers hint at homosexuality, later to pretend there was never such a hint - which I in the political and economic environment can understand, though it is tiring.
Charlie Jung is not depicted as a terrible person, more like a sad character, but he is definitely trying to #metoo Hye-jen in the beginning, and that is terrible. Including luring him to a "party" with only the two of them present. And poor guy, to commit suicide, but also, the description of this show contributes to the tendency to describe gays as people who obsess over straight people and are clingy.
Thus, I would hope they would let Kyung-joon come out and let the description of his non-loose-wristy lonely life, longing for the possibility to love without being stigmatised, be part of the solution - representing different kinds of gayness in this show, not just the cliché designer clingy wannabe sugardaddy gay.
Just sayin'.
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19 DK-Drama 🫘 Giffing n Space Cadetting🍉🌱
August 22, 2023 at 4:26 AM
I wish that movie on the plane with the red umbrella had been My Neighbour Totoro. Would have been more hopeful as "waiting at a bus stop with red umbrella and someone else arrives"-reference.
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