The King: Eternal Monarch: Episode 16 (Final)
by quirkycase
The end is here, folks. Our hero and his team make their last stand and attempt to bring balance back to their worlds. Whichever way things turn out, the worlds won’t be exactly the same, and everyone’s fates could be changed forever. No pressure. Less time is devoted to the battle than I anticipated, giving the finale some time to explore the aftermath and provide a glimpse into what life looks like once it’s all said and done.
EPISODE 16
Luna texts Tae-eul’s dad that she’ll be out that night on a stakeout. Shin-jae cries as he thinks of Tae-eul, who is currently with Rim at the gate. They cross over, her gun trained on Rim.
In 1994, Yeong snaps Seung-heon’s neck. Damn. Gon orders Yeong to take out Rim’s group of traitors when they arrive. He’ll go after Rim alone, but if he fails, Yeong will have to take him out.
When Yeong realizes Gon’s plan, he refuses the order. His duty is to protect the king, so he’s going with him. Gon narrates that he hoped things would play out as they did before, but things began changing at some point. He leaves the Four Tiger Sword behind and runs to his fate, comforted in the knowledge that he’s not alone – there are many brave people on his side.
In the between place, Tae-eul holds Rim hostage, giving Gon time to change the past. If he fails, she’ll take Rim out herself. Rim points out that her memories of Gon will disappear if Gon succeeds.
She knows and the loss hurts. Rim scoffs at her determination, claiming you can’t fire a gun in the between place. Tae-eul is a fan of the you don’t know until you try approach.
Meanwhile, little Gon picks up the sword, prepared to attack his uncle. The glass ceiling shatters, as expected. But this time, Gon and Yeong enter together in a backlit slo-mo strut to take out the guards. In the ensuing gunfight, Yeong is shot (nooo), but we don’t know how badly he’s hurt.
On the dais, Rim reaches down and picks up the unbroken flute. Gon’s flute half and the one Tae-eul currently holds disintegrate entirely. Well, that’s not a good sign. In the between place, Rim reasons his other self must’ve obtained the whole flute.
Gon shares a look of understanding with the injured Yeong and chases after Rim in 1994, while the Rim in the between place rubs it in that Gon’s half must’ve disappeared. Now Gon will never return, and Tae-eul is stuck with him in this place for eternity. Now there’s an awful fate.
Amidst the bodies of the slain guards, Yeong protectively holds little Gon in his arms. When people come yelling for the king and crown prince, Yeong sets little Gon down and hides. Several palace workers rush to the king’s body while Ok-nam cradles little Gon and cries.
A fading Yeong recalls when he became the Unbreakable Sword with a smile. Tears fall as he loses consciousness. He’d better not have just died.
In the republic, Shin-jae tells his mom the whole story and takes her to visit the original Shin-jae. He watches her wail over his body. She rages at Shin-jae for keeping this from her, yelling at him to bring her son back. Oh no you don’t, lady!
Shin-jae wanders outside, looking lost and hollow. He turns at the sound of his mom calling, “Shin-jae!” She runs and grabs him in a hug, apologizing for not hugging him earlier. He’s her son too, and she knows it’s not his fault. Thank goodness. Shin-jae cries in earnest as she embraces him.
In 1994, Rim runs into the forest where the master gate appears. He’s so busy congratulating himself that he doesn’t notice Gon approaching. Gon slashes him across the arm, and when Rim tries to grab the flute off the ground, Gon slashes the other arm.
With the sword to his neck, Rim asks who Gon is and why he’s after him. Gon replies he’s the king and true owner of the Four Tiger Sword who will be dealing Rim’s retribution. In the between place, Rim surmises Gon failed seeing as he’s still alive and well.
Tae-eul intends to fix that and pulls the trigger, but nothing happens. Rim laughs at her foolish hope but is done tolerating her. He rushes her, and we cut to the republic. A gunshot sounds and the lily finally sprouts. In the between place, Tae-eul shoots Rim in the chest. As she looks on in shock, a breeze ruffles her hair and petals rain down. The floating pictures disintegrate.
In 1994, Rim realizes who Gon is after he begins quoting the engraving on the Four Tiger Sword:
The sky bestows the heart upon us, and the ground helps the spirit.The sun and the moon are formed. As the mountains and streams form, lightning strikes. A sage is moved to defeat the evil of the mountains and streams. Wield it with deep thoughts and make things right.
Gon sentences him to beheading and slits his throat … which isn’t quite the same thing but close enough, I guess.
Yo-yo kid muses that it sprouted rather than broke. The kid morphs into a young man who claims the door will close but the memories will remain. We see the bully who beat up Shin-jae long ago, slinging that familiar yo-yo. Then, we see more flashes of yo-yo kid at various ages in the kingdom and the republic. Now, he wonders if he should sever it or let it be.
Rim’s body disintegrates in the between place, and Tae-eul realizes Gon succeeded but cries when she assumes he can’t return. In 1994, the scar on Gon’s neck disappears. All the items related to their travels vanish from both worlds. In the republic, Shin-jae vanishes from a group photo. In the between place, the hands on Rim’s pocket watch spin furiously.
In the republic in 1994, Jung-hye laughs at her fortune when her husband dies. Now that she and Ji-hoon have to fend for themselves, though, she can’t take care of Rim’s alternate. She puts him in a care facility with the promise that she and Ji-hoon will visit.
In 1995, Shin-jae (Hyun-min, technically) and his mom are on the bridge in Corea. Prince Bu-yeong happens by and stops her from committing suicide. He sweetly puts Hyun-min’s shoe back on and encourages Hyun-min’s mom to think twice about her decision as a parent. He warmly places his hand on hers as she cries.
It’s 1999 and little Luna tries to steal from Seo-ryung’s mom’s shop. Seo-ryung, pleasant as ever, wants to call the police, but her mom invites Luna in for a meal instead. She tries to give her a little money, but Luna gives it back, wanting to pay for her meal.
Tae-eul, in blood-stained clothes and clutching a gun, wakes up to a crowd of people gathered around her. She asks when and where she is and learns it’s April 2020 in the republic. Tae-eul borrows a phone to call Moon-shik, eagerly asking where her team members are. Her face falls. She lowers the phone and cries.
Tae-eul narrates only a week passed for her, yet her world now is slightly different. She’s still a lieutenant who is sometimes a good daughter. Her memories of Gon remain, even though he and Shin-jae are no longer there.
Moon-shik’s wife looks over a credit card bill and reasons whoever keeps calling her husband away must be about to start school. It turns out he’s been taking care of the grandmother and sister of their kid’s hoobae (junior) who got arrested.
Walking down the street one day, a now-alive Ji-hoon in a military uniform passes by Tae-eul. She recalls Gon’s promise that he’d open every door and find his way back to her. She sinks to the ground in grief.
Gon gallops through the between place. Holding flowers, he stands outside of Tae-eul’s door. She comes out in a pilot’s uniform and stops to ask who he is. Gon recognizes he’s in the wrong world.
He tries again, and this time it’s a version of her in an Army uniform. His third attempt finds a drunk, celebrity version of her. Finally, he thinks he’s found her since this one is a police officer. But in this world, her name is Hyo-jin and her mother is alive.
It’s 2021 and Tae-eul receives a call from Na-ri. Some guy on a horse is at her place. Tae-eul turns on her siren and speeds home where Gon is waiting with flowers. She stares in wonder at him as Gon says there’s a her in every universe who doesn’t recognize him.
Not realizing he’s finally found Tae-eul, Gon is startled by her tears – every other version of her was happy. Seeing the look of recognition in her eyes, he checks the ID badge around her neck and notices she’s wearing the necklace he gave her.
Hardly daring to believe it, Gon asks if it’s really her, and his eyes widen when she says he finally came. He grabs her in a hug. Tae-eul asks what took him so long; she’s spent every day waiting for him. Gon explains that, after killing Rim, he had to go back for Yeong. We see Yeong in Corea in 2021. Oh, thank goodness.
Gon spent the rest of the time opening various doors, looking for her. Even if she didn’t remember him, he wanted to see her. He would just tell her who he was all over again. Baffled, Gon wonders how she does remember him.
Tae-eul wants to skip over that and kisses him instead. He asks if she still hates flowers, but she responds she likes them, especially the ones he brought her. In a repeat of the out of time memory, he gives her the flowers and says, “I love you. I am deeply in love with you.” Tae-eul notes this is how everything comes together.
Now we’re in 2022 in Corea where Yeong complains about having to babysit the twins all the time (his parents got back together). Ha! They go by their nicknames: Eun-bi and Kka-bi. Aw.
Gon asks if he misses him. Yeong smiles sadly, figuring Eun-seob doesn’t remember him anyway. Yeong gives Gon the file he asked for. Hyun-min became a cop in this world, too.
And so did Luna. Just like Tae-eul, she calls Hyun-min “hyung-nim,” and they seem close. He offers to buy her a birthday gift, so she runs into the bookshop (previously Rim’s hideout) to pick something out. The date is May 27, 2022. Ah, so that’s how “Tae-eul” ended up on the CCTV footage Gon saw.
Luna goes to visit Seo-ryung in prison. (It’s rather satisfying seeing her in a prison jumpsuit.) She got caught embezzling as an assemblywoman. Seo-ryung grumbles about how she should’ve been prime minister, causing the corrections officer to tell her to keep it down. Ha, it’s her loyal assistant.
Seo-ryung asks how her mom is and tells Luna to take good care of her. They bicker and Seo-ryung gets another warning to quiet down, making her complain that the officer is annoying. Seo-ryung yells, “Gu Seo-kyung!” at her sister’s back when she ignores her and leaves. Aw, so they did adopt Luna.
In the republic, Tae-eul assigns the newbie menial tasks and heads out for the weekend. Everyone is curious where she goes each weekend, but Tae-eul just says she goes on trips. In the kingdom, Ok-nam asks Gon the same question, but Gon stays tight-lipped. As Ok-nam hugs him goodbye, she slips a talisman in his pocket.
Tae-eul meets Gon at the gate, and he pulls her through. Gon narrates that they’ve been doing the things they skipped. Wherever the gate drops them, the number one rule is to find out the date and avoid their alternates.
Most of time it goes smoothly but not always. One time, a man drops to his knees crying, “Your Majesty!” upon seeing Gon. They discover Gon is a tyrant in that world and quickly depart.
When they arrive in Corea in 2000, Gon takes her to a café, saying there’s someone who wants to meet her. Prince Bu-yeong sits nearby and drops a pen which Tae-eul returns to him. Back at their table, Gon tells Tae-eul fondly that Prince Bu-yeong is the uncle who raised him. He’s happy they finally met.
Tae-eul is excited when the gate one day takes them to the Joseon era. She wants to tell her ancestor to buy the pear field in Apgujeong-dong. She looks for her traditional clothes in the suitcases of various attire they have stashed in the between place.
While traveling, they end up in 1994 in the republic where Gon runs into a young Shin-jae. Gon tosses his baseball back to him, and as they’re talking, a crash sounds from where Shin-jae just was. Oh, did he just save him from the coma? Tae-eul returns, and Gon states he found the reason the door brought them here.
In 2022, Gon smiles to see Shin-jae healthy and seemingly still wealthy. Guess his family didn’t go bankrupt. Elsewhere, a snazzily dressed Eun-seob proudly shows off pictures of the twins to his colleagues. He’s distracted by someone staring at him, though, and walks over.
Gon smiles and asks how things are. Then, he asks if Eun-seob got his driver’s license. Eun-seob freely answers his questions before realizing this is strange. He asks who he is, but Gon just compliments him on looking cool and imposing. We see his NIS badge.
Gon remarks he’ll always be his Unbreakable Sword and walks away. Eun-seob lights up at a call from Na-ri, and by the way he’s addressing her, they’re married now. Look at you go, Eun-seob!
The next time Tae-eul and Gon go through the gate, they accidentally end up in Corea shortly after Gon left. Yeong leads the royal guards into the forest, looking for Gon who quickly hides Tae-eul’s face with his jacket.
He orders the guards back, and Tae-eul peeks out to offer Yeong a little wave. Yeong lets out an exasperated “Your Majesty.” Gon and Tae-eul sneak into the palace, their outings now discovered. Ok-nam enters the room, and Tae-eul quickly puts on the ever-present skincare helmet. Pfft.
Gon claims Ok-nam’s talisman worked, and she raises her eyebrows with a smile, leaving them alone. Heh. Tae-eul wipes her prints off the helmet, and they head to the control room to delete any footage of her.
They catch Yeong in the midst of his own little drama on CCTV. First, he curses out Gon in his irritation (to Gon’s astonishment). Then, he touches hands with Seung-ah as they pass in the hall, only to have Ok-nam pop out and look after them suspiciously. Tae-eul jokes she’s enjoying this movie. She and Gon kiss.
Gon takes her through the gate to her world, and daily life resumes. Tae-eul chases after criminals … with Jangmi! He’s still on the team. In the kingdom, Gon officially appoints the new prime minister: Secretary Mo. Aw, yeah. Her adorable little boy waltzes on stage and asks who the “ajusshi” is, so Gon crouches down and introduces himself.
Gon and Tae-eul continue their travels and narrate that no matter what happens, they want to “love tirelessly.” They’ve decided to love the fate that chose them. We see their clasped hands age as Gon continues that they’ll live for today forever.
COMMENTS
That was a surprisingly happy ending. It wrapped up most everyone’s stories, which I appreciated, although there were still some unanswered questions. I’ll just have to wonder forever why Ok-nam was chosen to travel to Corea and what happened to her alternate or why Eun-seob was raising his siblings. While I’m glad everyone I cared about survived in the end, it all felt a bit too clean and saccharine. For how epic and serious this drama tried to be, I expected there to be a higher price paid on both sides. Instead, the Big Bad lost, the lesser evils paid for their crimes (Seo-ryung) or were given a shot at redemption (Luna), and the good guys all got their happily-ever-afters. Not that I wanted carnage or anything, but some level of believability would be nice. It’s nigh impossible to fight a war with zero casualties or real damage on one side.
Moreover, there were no serious repercussions from messing around with both worlds. They survived all that and instead of learning a lesson, Gon and Tae-eul decide to frolic through time and space like it’s their personal playground? They constantly talked about how the worlds can’t collide and need to maintain their boundaries, yet they use the gate without a care. Even if they take pains not to encounter their alternates, their mere presence in worlds that are not their own could have unforeseen consequences. But so long as they have good vacation spots. I think I was supposed to find it romantic, but it struck me as irresponsible and off-putting.
I didn’t necessarily dislike either Gon or Tae-eul, but they never clicked with me. I never could connect with Gon because he didn’t feel real. They were so busy making him the swoony king, they forgot to make him a three-dimensional character. Like with other aspects of the drama, it seemed his character was all about the aesthetics and the effect they wanted to create. As for Tae-eul, she just fell a bit flat for me, and her weepy turn in the latter half was frustrating. There’s nothing wrong with crying, but I don’t like when dramas have women go weepy after they fall in love. I’m glad Tae-eul didn’t turn helpless and still had a role to play, but I do wish she’d gotten more of her own arc and growth as a character.
From beginning to end, I cared most about side characters like Yeong, Eun-seob, Shin-jae and even Jangmi. I was glad they were all given endings and weren’t forgotten, even though splitting up Yeong and Eun-seob as well as Shin-jae and Jangmi was unacceptable. On that note, I have to commend Kim Kyung-nam, as well as Woo Do-hwan. These two actors really stood out among the cast and brought their characters to life. I already liked them both, but this drama cemented my appreciation. Their characters felt grounded and nuanced even when the things happening around them didn’t always make sense.
By the end of the drama, I just accepted everything at face value and stopped trying to figure out how or why anything happened. Literal winds of change blow through the between place, altering its supposed properties? Okay. Tae-eul is the only one who gets to keep her memories? Why not. The how and why of things has been one of the main issues throughout the drama. Emphasis was consistently placed on the result, and how we got there was haphazard. The drama seemed more concerned with aesthetics and being epic than making sense. This permeated everything from the insta-romance to the mechanisms behind the parallel universes to the coherency of the plot. It was as if specific scenes and plot points were envisioned first and everything else was filled in as an afterthought.
The frustrating thing for me is that this drama had an interesting premise and general story. It was the execution that was problematic. I often found myself sighing at what could have been if only the plot had been presented in a more coherent and focused way and the leads had been better developed. Most dramas don’t have enough material to fill the episodes, but this one had too much. We ended up with so many characters and threads that it felt messy and chaotic. The latter half was a little more focused and better edited, but that could only go so far in solving the issues. Either way, there was potential there that wasn’t realized which is a shame. Despite my criticisms of this drama, I do appreciate that such a large-scale story was attempted. I like when dramas try different or daring things, even when they don’t work out as well as hoped. And, of course, I can’t neglect to mention the most daring player in all of this: PPL. Regardless of time or place, these universe-defying products never missed an opportunity to shine and prove their worth. Their efforts will not soon be forgotten.
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Tags: Jung Eun-chae, Kim Go-eun, Kim Kyung-nam, Lee Jung-jin, Lee Min-ho, The King: Eternal Monarch, Woo Do-hwan
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1 parkchuna adores YoungWon couples Forever 🍉
June 15, 2020 at 4:28 PM
I just want to say - What a waste of a magical flute, time travelling and parallel universes!
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💜🍍☠ Sicarius The Queen of Melonia ☠🍍💜
June 15, 2020 at 4:53 PM
*oh so this IS MOA's estranged multiverse cousin* *I knew it*
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ting
June 15, 2020 at 5:01 PM
Wasted/underutilised characters: PM Koo, Lee Rim
Characters that we spent an unnecessary amount of time on: Most of the doppelgängers that Lee Rim switched, police chief & his solitude
Not enough time spent on: Luna (especially backstory), Lee Rim (his evil plots were not villainous enough)
Unnecessary storyline since it was never developed fully: police chief & solitude, Lady Noh coming to KOC during Korean War, woman with bullied son who was given football at his birthday party before Lee Rim showed up, PM Koo’s pregnant frenemy, Prince Buyeong’s granddaughter
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KDramzFan
June 15, 2020 at 6:54 PM
Should have just called it the 'Magic Flute with some fried chicken on the side'.
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kiara
June 15, 2020 at 7:14 PM
Waste of historical artifacts. The flute, the sword, the ring, the gold crown of Silla and everything historically related.
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BlueCouchPotato
June 15, 2020 at 7:18 PM
Also a waste of all the scientific theory and religious references. *le sigh*
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parkchuna adores YoungWon couples Forever 🍉
June 15, 2020 at 7:24 PM
Hahahah Gon left the sword by the exit route, Rim prolly ran past it and then In the forest he asked Gon ‘where did you get the sword?’ I just 😑🤨🤦🏻♀️
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BlueCouchPotato
June 15, 2020 at 7:35 PM
"It was over there (points) ."🤷🏻♀️🙄
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parkchuna adores YoungWon couples Forever 🍉
June 15, 2020 at 7:51 PM
😂😂
Lord Cobol (Kdramas, like water, flow downhill)
June 16, 2020 at 12:09 AM
I think Gon had to leave the sword behind because he didn't want the two copies of it together in the room for the big confrontation. Then the sword he left behind probably disappeared when the flute-halves did.
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Kurama
June 16, 2020 at 1:46 AM
And this time he had a gun before entering (in the first scene he recovers the weapon of dead guard) so the sword wouldn't have been very handy...
parkchuna adores YoungWon couples Forever 🍉
June 16, 2020 at 1:46 AM
If i remember correctly he picked up the sword by the exit when he was chasing Rim.
MoonBooBoo
September 11, 2020 at 8:23 AM
Korean Deathly Hallows, is that you?
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2 beantown
June 15, 2020 at 4:29 PM
I thoroughly enjoyed this drama; I felt it tried to do big things, and it was mostly successful! Kudos to the actors and the production team for a successful completion. 😘
Moments from TK;EM that will stick with me? All the poetry, the funeral rites, Lady Noh's praying in the pot field and LMH and equations that are beautiful.
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3 liar song #PuppyNotPuppyLeeJaeWookIsBack
June 15, 2020 at 4:32 PM
It's over. The King: Eternal PPL is finally over. While counting the PPLs were fun (and there were only about 5 PPLs in this episode), at the end of this series, all I cared about was Yeong, Eun-seob, and Sin-jae so although I wanted more of them, I am glad that they were able to get their happy endings in their PPL-heavy parallel worlds (#ChaebolSinJae). I really enjoyed the show due to the fact that I just instantly turn my brain off before watching an episode so I won't get disappointed that my theories and hopes won't come to fruition.
This show really lived up to its eternal PPL name. May the parallel universes have their own eternal PPLs too (and an eternal WDH). Seriously, the show could've given us WDHs from other worlds and I wouldn't complain.
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liar song #PuppyNotPuppyLeeJaeWookIsBack
June 15, 2020 at 4:35 PM
I also want to add that the kid playing Yo-yo boy is actually a very charming child actress!
Yes, I was shocked too.
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KDramzFan
June 15, 2020 at 6:55 PM
I think that it is the same actress that played the child version of Ha Ji-Won's character in Chocolate.....
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BlueCouchPotato
June 15, 2020 at 7:21 PM
The child playing PM Mo's son is also an actress (from Hi-Bye Mama).
I was more shocked that Yoyo-Kid became a Yoyo-Dude. Not that I don't mind a cameo from a good-looking actor, but what was that for?
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jewel
June 15, 2020 at 9:06 PM
the child from hi bye mama is actually a boy😁
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Miky
June 15, 2020 at 9:13 PM
I was actually expecting it since he said more than once that he wants to be whole again(his child version being the product of the flute broken in half)
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kiara
June 15, 2020 at 10:41 PM
HBM had a little boy playing a little girl.
TK had a girl playing a boy.
I hope this is not going to become a trend especially with young kids.
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Midnight
June 16, 2020 at 8:50 AM
I really don't understand this. Surely there are no shortage of child actors and actresses?
Guest
June 16, 2020 at 9:58 PM
I don't think that should matter as long as they're the best suited for the role.
Kurama
June 16, 2020 at 1:47 AM
And she's really good with a yoyo, she can do a lot of tricks with a yoyo.
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parkchuna adores YoungWon couples Forever 🍉
June 15, 2020 at 4:43 PM
I think #ChaebolShinjae is a good look, we need to get him a chaebol drama asap!
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liar song #PuppyNotPuppyLeeJaeWookIsBack
June 15, 2020 at 5:21 PM
Eternal Woo Do-hwan (in a new and properly-written drama) and fluffy chaebol Kim Kyung-nam are the therapies I badly need after finishing this drama.
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💜🍍☠ Sicarius The Queen of Melonia ☠🍍💜
June 15, 2020 at 5:35 PM
I hope they both have good dramas in the next round. I've missed both of their last two dramas. I need another shot!
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liar song #PuppyNotPuppyLeeJaeWookIsBack
June 15, 2020 at 5:42 PM
I need to catch up on their previous dramas that I missed! I just really really wish their new projects would be really good dramas!
💜🍍☠ Sicarius The Queen of Melonia ☠🍍💜
June 15, 2020 at 5:47 PM
(by last two dramas I mean this, and the one each did before this pfffffffft- I probably won't watch My Country but Special Labour Inspector Jo is still on my watch list)
WishfulToki
June 15, 2020 at 5:53 PM
@sicarius @sensationalfantasy I can't recommend Special Labor Inspector Jo enough! If you want to see Kim Kyung-nam in a solid and fun drama it's a must.
💜🍍☠ Sicarius The Queen of Melonia ☠🍍💜
June 15, 2020 at 5:55 PM
@wishfultoki I have heard good things about it! Plus yaknow... KKN so... *sorry bud, I still won't watch this for you though*
stpauligurl
June 15, 2020 at 7:00 PM
We need to go back in time using his magic flute (or whatever he used) and either nudge the writer to create a more -coherent script, or drop it all together.
(Then again, if that happened we wouldn't have got to see double WDHWoo Do-hwans and Kim Kyung-nams...)
sigh................
parkchuna adores YoungWon couples Forever 🍉
June 15, 2020 at 7:54 PM
@wishfultoki TKEM actually distracted me from watching SL Insp. Jo. I should have probably stuck with that 😂😬
stpauligurl
June 15, 2020 at 6:58 PM
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dreamy
June 20, 2020 at 7:22 AM
You should watch KKN in Prison Playbook, he's hilarious in that drama (which I binged after TKEM)
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bong-soo
June 16, 2020 at 12:32 PM
Once again I loved KIm Kyung-nam's performance. I was informed earlier by @wishfultoki that the 'kiss' issue was resolved in SLIJ but for me finally after watching KKN in DEFENDANT, STRONGEST DELIVERYMAN, PRISON PLAYBOOK, COME AND HUG ME, and FOX BRIDE STAR he finally gets a kiss, such that it was, from Luna although I am sure he wished it had come from Tae-eul.
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WishfulToki
June 16, 2020 at 3:57 PM
That kiss from Luna doesn't count. It was horrible LOL. You need to see the kiss issue properly resolved in Inspector Jo. :D
Guess I should watch PRISON PLAYBOOK... it pops up regularly on the beanie fanwall, and it looks good.
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bong-soo
June 16, 2020 at 5:20 PM
PP is highly recommended. If you are a Jung Kyung-ho fan then it is a twofer (as we say in New York). KKN plays JKH's sweet eccentric younger brother. Totally different than here. One thing to note. PP is a tvN production and has long episodes.
parkchuna adores YoungWon couples Forever 🍉
June 16, 2020 at 7:52 PM
It's a 16 episodes movie series >.<
💜🍍☠ Sicarius The Queen of Melonia ☠🍍💜
June 15, 2020 at 4:56 PM
Eternal WDH's...
WDH∞
Infinite... Infinities...
*steeples fingers conspiratorially*
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liar song #PuppyNotPuppyLeeJaeWookIsBack
June 15, 2020 at 5:24 PM
This is the greatest theory I've ever come across within the Eternal PPL comments section.
Ignore the mathematical theories because this show is basically a fantasy. Let us imagine eternal WDHs.
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Kairoskat is on LUCY Island 🏝
June 15, 2020 at 5:30 PM
It is a fantasy. I just hope they ran with the fantasy instead of trying so hard to make it logical with maths 😅.
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💜🍍☠ Sicarius The Queen of Melonia ☠🍍💜
June 15, 2020 at 5:34 PM
You know I'm getting flashbacks... *grabs another handful of peanuts*
💜🍍☠ Sicarius The Queen of Melonia ☠🍍💜
June 15, 2020 at 5:32 PM
*eyebrow wiggle*
(P.S. Come now, was this show ever not a fantasy? Don't let the fake maths fool you Ssong. )
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liar song #PuppyNotPuppyLeeJaeWookIsBack
June 15, 2020 at 5:45 PM
Does counting PPLs count as doing math? (because that's how far I could go with this show) HAHAHAHAHA
BlueCouchPotato
June 15, 2020 at 7:27 PM
Fantasizing about an alternative Yeong in futuristic sageuk-style AU, leading the rebellion against the Monarchy...
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parkchuna adores YoungWon couples Forever 🍉
June 16, 2020 at 1:51 AM
Yeong rebelling cos he was grossly underused as the King’s guard and captain? Yes please.
sirena
June 16, 2020 at 8:10 AM
Eternal WDH's.....Yes, I can get on board with that! 😍
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kakakash
June 15, 2020 at 5:59 PM
Yes good point. After stressful weeks, I liked shutting my brain off with this. Will defn miss it.
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4 dramafan100
June 15, 2020 at 4:34 PM
I thought I will come here and write an essay but your summary @quirkycase is the essay i wanted to write!! Thank you.
Now I am here to read theories and potential explanations, even if they are flawed because theme is interesting.
I have discussed the plot extensively with my husband who loves scifi and knows every way time travel can be approached but all he did after hearing the plot in detail was dismissed this as nonsense. So, I need more creative minds than his :-D
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WalexB
June 16, 2020 at 9:08 AM
As to "nonsense" there are lots of plot holes...
However the rules seem to be:
* Half a flute can only bring you to a parallel world and apparently to the same in that different world.
* The whole flute when it takes you to a different world also takes you to a different time; you can choose the different world by going through a different door, but you can't choose the time.
* The whole flute can make you travel back in time *in your world* only to your moment of maximum danger, that's why in both case it takes Lee Gon back to the attack.
What is unclear if there are other ways to do the same: yo-yo kid claimed he could travel between worlds, but then it seems that he is the "spirit" or "deity" of the flute.
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5 happiness
June 15, 2020 at 4:39 PM
Okay... so I have many questions.. the glaring one is where was the Lee Gon that goes to save his younger self the first time? when Gon and Jo Yeong go back to that night shouldn’t he have been there? and how come Gon, Tae-eul, and Jo Yeong didnt forget? Is it because they weren’t affected by changing the events because they worked together to do it? so shouldn’t that mean Jo Yeong should be dead (not that i want him to be)
The finale was a lacklustre for me, everything felt too easy and was resolved in 20mins giving time for filler scenes of Tae-eul and Gon’s many dates into different worlds. I still enjoyed this drama as a whole learning to accept its flaws but I thought the finale would be a bit stronger than this. The story had so much potential and I loved the concept of parallel universes because there were so many interesting characters with interesting dynamics which I wish was better explored. I really hope KES next drama isn’t fantasy and is just a plain old rom-com, I didn’t really care much for the plot and was more drawn in by the bromance and the relationships the characters had which I think KES is great at so she should just focus on that for her next drama
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ting
June 15, 2020 at 5:07 PM
I don’t understand the selective memory retention/memory loss of people who crossed over either
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Kairoskat is on LUCY Island 🏝
June 15, 2020 at 5:13 PM
I just assumed Gon, Taeul and Joyoung who were aware of what was happening retained their memories. The others who were swapped and didn't know much details were given a fresh start.
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kdramapedia
June 15, 2020 at 6:16 PM
Gon and Yeong kept their memories because they're the two who went back in time and changed it. They were responsible for the change and they remembered doing it. They were in 1994 when it happened and had to travel forward to 2020 to get back to their correct time. So of course they remember.
Tae-eul was in the in-between place, so she wasn't impacted by the time change. She assumed that she would forget, but that wasn't the case. An alternate explanation is Yoyo Boy (aka Fate). He says, should I cut it or let it stay be? Meaning, should he cut the red string of fate (what his yoyo is made of) that connects her and Gon or should he let it be and let them keep their memories. Yoyo Boy stays as Yoyo Boy instead of Yoyo Teen, leaving their fate be.
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Ashes2Ashes
June 15, 2020 at 10:05 PM
Yeah,think this is what we are supposed to infer. My main gripe is with how they showed Yeong with 4 bullet wounds on his back and didn't bother to show he had his beloved Corean bullet proof vest beneath it. We are supposed to believe that the guy managed to be alive till Gon went back to the palace(which by then should be swarmed with people ,cuz of regicide,duh)
I was positing that 2020 Yeong died for his King but since 94 Yeong is alive and well, he grew up alongside Gon minus the memories of their universe hopping adventures(Or better yet, didn't become the unbreakable sword and we'd get to see how a Gon free Yeongie would turn out,CoK EunSeop,may be??).But then Gon said he went back for him and Yeong in 2022 is shown to miss ES and all my theories (like many others) bit the dust. Really should've known better by now.
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BlueCouchPotato
June 15, 2020 at 10:36 PM
My guess is that Yeong was still wearing the bulletproof vest, but since he was struck at close range, the bullets can still draw blood. It's the wound on his shoulder (not shown because PG ratings) that would have been fatal. The swarm of folks were already gone anyway, and we are just left to surmise that Gon made it in time to help Yeong.
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Ashes2Ashes
June 16, 2020 at 5:12 AM
Yeah, 100%. Coz without a vest , Yeong was toast. But I wanted to be shown that he had a vest on and that the show knows the viewers would be calling it out if he magically managed to keep on breathing while having more holes than swiss cheese. And even if the immediate area was deserted, the royal guards would be on high alert given the recent incidents. How easy was it for Gon to sneak in and carry an incapacitated Yeong out?? Show us the journey.Keep up the suspense for a while more. May be the magic flute comes with a handy invisibility cloak?? At that point,I would've bought another convenient fantasy feature than get a throwaway line from Gon a few scenes down that, "oh and I went back for Yeong"
It's one of the biggest issues I had with the show. Putting the onus on the viewers to do mental gymnastic to fill loopholes, thinking we'll be shown right or wrong down the line. But then never rewarding us for the rampant theorising and just moving on as if there aren't any logical breaks. It would've have made Gon and Yeong's sacrifice mean something to have that precious relationship severed. Ofc they can meet up as adults but it would've been a Yeong who hadn't been an unbreakable sword from age 4! Ah, the missed opportunities.
BlueCouchPotato
June 16, 2020 at 8:05 AM
@ashes2ashes *Sigh* I've long given up on this drama when it comes to coherence. I'm actually happy about the throwaway line, because at least it made sense, and despite the lack of details, we know that Gon, for once, saves Yeong. The absence even a throwaway line with 2022 Eun-seob still hurts.
kdramapedia
June 16, 2020 at 10:19 AM
It has been shown a few times throughout the drama that Yeong ALWAYS wears his bulletproof vest. So it's not a suspension of belief to infer that he was wearing it that night. It should be general knowledge at this point that he's wearing it, so there's no reason to show it. Bulletproof vests don't make you invincible, however, so he was still wounded, just not fatally injured.
Yes, it would've been nice to see more action scenes, but that doesn't mean that it's illogical. But if some people are determined not to like the drama, then those people will never enjoy it no matter how it's explained.
Aside from the "unlimited time travel weekend vacation" ending, I really enjoyed this drama. It made you think instead of being a passive viewer. It's a lot like Fight Club where you miss a lot of stuff the first time around but you pay more attention when rewatching. People were expecting The King to be light and fluffy like LMH in Heirs, but it was more complicated time travel like LMH in Faith.
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Edgar Pordwed
June 16, 2020 at 2:34 AM
Just like this Lee Gon merged with Lee Gon 3 when he time travelled to 2020 (thats the most common theory) he also should have merged with the first Lee Gon who saved him, they didn't show it, we have to assume that, I think.
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Rebecca Smith
June 17, 2020 at 7:48 AM
I think the " yoyo boy" pretty much explains the reason why TE ,LG and Yeong kept their old memories.Taking into account that he is the one controlling the events,like a deity of some sorts,it's pretty much clear he allowed them to.He even says " The door will close and only the memories remain.SHOULD I BREAK IT ,OR JUST LET IT BE ".He obviously chose not to break their fate.
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KdramaKdrama
August 17, 2022 at 4:17 AM
The Lee Gon who saved his younger self came back out of the past so he wouldn't be there when they went a second time. He came back when Tae-eul was in hospital after being stabbed by Luna
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6 Fantasy101
June 15, 2020 at 4:41 PM
Wow! I guess everything we have watched technically did not happen at all? Only in memories! First off, a big shout out to Quirkycase for a job well done. This was not an easy drama to follow so I applaud you and all the Beanies for your efforts in dissecting and recapping this very complex storyline. Many unanswered questions for me in this last episode but I will take the story as is.
I am happy that all of our protagonist received happy endings. Starting with the main storyline and the parallel worlds, I was hoping that Gon would somehow destroy the flute. Having the flute exist leaves the door open for future possible threats as we have seen. Also, I would have liked to see him use the flute for the better good of the kingdoms rather than just to travel to see his girlfriend every weekend.
Gon and TE: Happy that they found each other, but how do you live between two parallel worlds? As king wouldn’t he need to get married and have hiers. It would only make sense that TE eventually moves to KOC and start a family. Also did you see TE go in for that kiss! DAMN GURL! She yanked his neck! The actors did the best they could with a horrible script that probably did not make sense to them either. I actually kinda feel sorry for LMH and KGE.
Shin Jae: He was the most interesting and developed character in the show but didn't make use of his character for main storyline. I am just glad he got to move on with new Luna to a happier life.
PM Koo: Not sure what her purpose for the show was other than distraction for Gon. Her mother is such a sweet lady, how did she end up being such a bitch. She is a beautiful actress though.
En Seob/Yeong: *Sighs* Love them so much! I’m glad they didn’t kill his character. Glad to see him get a shot at love besides guarding the king all the time. WDH did a great job! I love the various facial expressions that he displayed. He really outshined LMH as far as acting. This was a breakthrough role for him and am looking forward to seeing him in more leading roles.
I’m just sad that I won’t get to see LMH’s handsome face displayed across my 70” flat screen TV anymore. Until next time Beanies!
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7 ting
June 15, 2020 at 4:45 PM
Worst scene ever: JY snapping neck of teenage son of Prince Buyeong. Couldn’t he just have knocked him unconscious? I blame writer KES for this piece of infamy. What a way to ruin a great character! JY was always my favourite😰
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WishfulToki
June 15, 2020 at 5:05 PM
We knew Yeong could be deadly, but wow, that came out of nowhere. He could have easily knocked him out.
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silverdrafts
June 15, 2020 at 6:58 PM
Yeong as a killing machine is not that OOC, to me, at least. He finally carries out his threats (to shoot people dead, to kill even with a gun pointed to his face, etc). Now we know they're not empty threats. When he says "you'll be dead" then, yeah, you'll be.
Didn't mean I didn't jump out of my seat when watching it tho.
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victoriasa
June 17, 2020 at 4:26 AM
I wanted to see action from the Royal Guards. Agree with you silverdrafts.
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BlueCouchPotato
June 15, 2020 at 7:42 PM
Wasn't really that surprised, to be honest. Next to Rim, Buyeong's son is the biggest traitor and threat, and in *that* time stream, it makes sense for Yeong to kill him. With the Great Reset, however, we can just brush it off as "didn't happen."
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WalexB
June 18, 2020 at 3:00 PM
«With the Great Reset, however, we can just brush it off as "didn't happen."»
But it did happen: that is the version of 1994 from which the Great Reset started, and where in 2021 Capt. Yeong reads that in 1994 Traitor Lee Lim was found dead in the bamboo grove. Lee Gon killed Lee Lim *after* Lee Lim took the flute from the shrine.
Therefore all events prior to that have happened, have still happened. There is a giant inconsistency there: in that world Lee Gon apparently dies at age 8, so how can Lee Gon be king of that same world in 2022? Obviously Capt. Yeong's desperation that he had failed to protect Lee Gon was wrong, as Lee Gon at 8 was still alive.
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Kairoskat is on LUCY Island 🏝
June 18, 2020 at 3:28 PM
I didn't get the vibe that he failed to protect Lee Gon when I watched the episode. He was feeling little Gon's pulse, then he heard someone coming and he placed little Gon gently on the floor, before he hid. Gon was not dead in this version.
BlueCouchPotato
June 18, 2020 at 5:29 PM
Good point about the start point of the Great Reset, though it still doesn't take anything away from Yeong as a character.
However, I also don't get the impression that Yeong thought that he failed to protect 1994Gon. The child wasn't strangled this time, and we see him run away, although he's probably injured from the glass shards. We also see Yeong cover him from the gunfire. Later, Yeong checks his pulse and the child clings to him and briefly opens his eyes when Yeong sets him down. Yeong's sorrow, I would guess, is that he's badly wounded and that he's not able to go after 2020Gon to help him further. He's also resigning himself to the possibility that he might die there, comforted only by the thought that he had fulfilled his duty. Thankfully, 2020Gon comes back for him.
silverdrafts
June 15, 2020 at 9:09 PM
As for knocking him out, I want to add that Yeong knows that it's their last chance, so he doesn't want to risk the son to come into consciousness later and screw them up, I guess.
Just my 2 cents.
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ting
June 15, 2020 at 5:37 PM
On the other hand, thought the sweetest scene this episode was the hug between Shin Jae and his ROC mother.
And the saddest was JY missing ES knowing he’d never see him again 😢
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lemoncello
June 16, 2020 at 4:50 AM
It's the saddest thing.. They made promise to meet again.. I could see the sadness in Yeong's face... :(
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WishfulToki
June 15, 2020 at 5:38 PM
But of course, I was too busy at laughing at the sword that Gon left by the door, in full view in case anyone escaping the palace wanted it.
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silverdrafts
June 15, 2020 at 6:53 PM
Yeah, and even more that Rim doesn't take it. It's so ridiculous.
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kakakash
June 15, 2020 at 5:52 PM
I think we can all choose to erase that from our memories...although its downright hilarious
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mugyuljoie is preciousss
June 15, 2020 at 9:55 PM
I laughed hard, but wasn't sure that was the intent of the writer.
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Kairoskat is on LUCY Island 🏝
June 15, 2020 at 6:13 PM
I didn't notice he snapped someones neck, I was too busy observing the cinematography, the camera angles and all. Plus the scene was so dark, he was wooshing on my screen 😅
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BlueCouchPotato
June 15, 2020 at 7:54 PM
Yeong demonstrating them ninja skills again
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8 Kairoskat is on LUCY Island 🏝
June 15, 2020 at 4:57 PM
Finally show gave us timestamps! Better late than never...I guess 😆.
Anyways..reading the recap...the 'opening doors' to find Taeul reminds me of Heirs. Tan said : we got through a door to Eunsang. Lolololol
http://www.dramabeans.com/members/katakwasabi/activity/975775/
I called it...TKEM is Heirs 2.0 😆
http://www.dramabeans.com/members/katakwasabi/activity/1028001/
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9 FormAnOrderlyQueue
June 15, 2020 at 4:58 PM
Thanks so much for your thoughts @quirkycase! What a job you had!
Frustrated. As you said, too much of a happy ending. Zooming through the universe on a weekend? Not particularly satisfying. For me, Gon and Tae-Eul only work in relation with all their excellent friends/colleagues and so the idea of them just going off as a couple without wanting to connect with anyone else just seems bonkers.
Moment that had me yelling at the screen? Tae-Eul's, "Let's skip that." LAZY!!! We want an explanation as to why three character's memories have remained rather than just accepting Yoyo boy/man's word for it. And I'm still left in the fog as to what Yoyo's true role/power in all this was.
So although I appreciate many will be satisfied with the tying up of character threads, I found the last hour annoying (save Eun-Seob, Jangmi and chaebol Sin-Jae) and would rather have had plot/world threads tied up. Ah, well...
But the best drama for discussion and manic theories on DB! Thanks one and all!
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Anna
June 16, 2020 at 7:36 AM
Yesss. The "let's skip that" was such a cop out...I mean, I know she's used that phrase in the past and I guess they thought that would make it okay, but......nope. Maybe if you don't have the flute, you are automatically kicked out? I think that makes sense??? They could have had her say that at least..."I killed Lee Lim, the flute disappeared and then I woke up back in 2020 Korea."
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10 💜🍍☠ Sicarius The Queen of Melonia ☠🍍💜
June 15, 2020 at 5:04 PM
Right so now .
All we have to do is write a cracktastic mega drama crossover theory. I didn't watch this so I will need help.
Idk I'm thinking all of LMH's dramas, and MOA for a start. Jeffrey is obviously the main antagonist- wormholes and tears in the time space continuum are peanuts for him *steals one of his peanuts and munches on it thoughtfully*
We can update this mega cracktastic crossover as time goes on ofc; who knows what the rest of the year will bring.
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11 Kairoskat is on LUCY Island 🏝
June 15, 2020 at 5:07 PM
I am probably the very few ones on DB who didn't mind the fluffy ending, it was cute. I was amused by all the PPL in EM, the PPL didn't bother me as much as it bothered others.
The thing that I noticed is that all the maths was basicly useless because in the end, the flute is a magical fantasy, that doesn't really need any math to explain it 😅
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💜🍍☠ Sicarius The Queen of Melonia ☠🍍💜
June 15, 2020 at 5:17 PM
If someone hasn't made a Magic Flute reference/joke by now I'll be very disappointed.
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Kairoskat is on LUCY Island 🏝
June 15, 2020 at 5:19 PM
Ngahaha. I called it magic flute. But it didn't pick up because you're not here sic~~~
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💜🍍☠ Sicarius The Queen of Melonia ☠🍍💜
June 15, 2020 at 5:30 PM
Scandalous!
*smh* You know I was GOING to make that joke last week... I should've listened to my gut.
Y'all were theorising, trying to explain it with science and shiz and there's a whole Opera RIGHT THERE.
I have failed you Katak, I am sorry.
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Kairoskat is on LUCY Island 🏝
June 15, 2020 at 5:56 PM
I was so lost with the maths thing I choose to ignore all the math quite early in the drama. I say I made a wise choice. Hahaha 🤭
💜🍍☠ Sicarius The Queen of Melonia ☠🍍💜
June 15, 2020 at 6:00 PM
You did. Tis what I would've done.
mugyuljoie is preciousss
June 15, 2020 at 9:57 PM
It was all magic flute and Yoyo Boy.
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WishfulToki
June 15, 2020 at 5:33 PM
Of course the math wasn't necessary. It was all a trap! Even when Gon wants to look into it and asks questions, Tae-eul is just "let's skip that and kiss".
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YY Chats with Toast Between Bites
June 15, 2020 at 8:55 PM
That, toki, is the final indictment. KSE is telling us, "This is my show. I will skip the questions that I can't answer. Take it, and leave it. So what if I led you on. I never promised you anything. I only hinted at possibilities. You took the bait, and you have only yourself to blame fir expecting so much more." But it still left a sour taste in my mouth. So many gaping loopholes. Too many. I will be cautious the next time I watch her dramas. Once bitten, twice shy.
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💜🍍☠ Sicarius The Queen of Melonia ☠🍍💜
June 16, 2020 at 1:25 AM
Or you could... not take the bait... *blinks innocently*
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Anna
June 16, 2020 at 11:14 AM
I didn't mind the fluffy ending either. They finally spent more time together, which was one of my biggest qualms in the beginning of the drama. If there was no fluff, we would never have gotten to meet JEONG TAE RA! I need KGE to play an over the top character like that in her next drama lol. The fan club name is so genius lol
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Rebecca Smith
June 17, 2020 at 12:05 PM
There was a someone on twitter who explained what between 0 and 1 ecuation symbol meant, in regards to LG and TE's relationship.It is very beautiful I may add.It's something about parallel lines,who are not supposed to converge.But there are times when they do and that's where between o and 1 ecuation comes into play.The maths stuff went all over my head because I never liked it and was never good at it with .But people who understand it said KES must of spent a lot of time researching this stuff.And apparently all the writtings on LG's boards must have been written by a maths major.They were all real mathematics stuff.
I said it here before ,it would have been very nice to have someone commenting who could explain the maths symbolism.
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BLUEcheesecake
September 2, 2020 at 4:31 PM
I just finished the show and wow, thanks for telling about this! I don't know if it was indeed not so clear explained in the show or it was just due to translation issues, but i never knew the deep meaning behind the [between 0 and 1] thing. And now i'm having feels :') Thanks!
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12 NYC gal
June 15, 2020 at 5:15 PM
I’m in general agreement with Quirkycase. I faithfully watched all 16 episodes, primarily to see LMH, he looked gorgeous but his character felt hollow and there wasn’t much chemistry with the Kim-Go-Eun. It was a big disappointment. I hope to see LMH take some risks and try something less conventional by Hallyu standards. He’s a good actor, I’d like to see him in something more interesting, where he’s not just eye candy.
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akeela
June 15, 2020 at 6:24 PM
True. I just watched it for the LMH eye candy. Felt LMH wasnt giving his all in this drama.
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Anna
June 16, 2020 at 11:17 AM
Yeah, I think he did what he could with what was given to him. The main leads just weren't written as well and weren't fleshed out or given chances to develop properly. That's what happens when you have too many characters and try to do too much. Womp.
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13 thisahotmess
June 15, 2020 at 5:23 PM
am I the only one who realized in the FINAL EPISODE during shin-jae/hyeon-mi's heartbreaking scene that Kim Kyung-nam is little fanboi Lee Joon Dol in Prison Playbook??? Like wow the versatality, the duality, amazing
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mugyuljoie is preciousss
June 15, 2020 at 9:59 PM
Now you should watch Special Labor Inspector Mr. Jo. He's awesome there too.
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Kurama
June 16, 2020 at 1:56 AM
In Come and Hug Me, he's the most interesting character too. It's in this drama I really liked him.
In Where the Stars Land, he's a great aeroport agent with a super cute crush!
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MeiDramaDreams
June 16, 2020 at 4:22 AM
What was his character like in Come and Hug Me? I’m currently in a KKN rabbit hole.
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Kurama
June 16, 2020 at 4:33 AM
Hum... He was the big brother of the ML, they didn't have the same mother (I'm not sure anymore). Their father was a killer and he was trying to win the love of their father by being a villain.
MeiDramaDreams
June 16, 2020 at 4:50 AM
Oh I see thanks. I’ll check that out too. I hope his character won’t break my heart like this drama did. I’m not sure I can handle another ShinJae character.
lemoncello
June 16, 2020 at 4:56 AM
His character in Come and Hug Me was so heart-breaking... I love his redemption in CAHM....
And the actress who played their mother in CAHM is the actress to play Gon's older alternate mother in TKEM.
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June 16, 2020 at 4:25 AM
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bong-soo
June 16, 2020 at 5:44 PM
@jk1197,
I gave a PRISON PLAYBOOK plug to @wishfultoki above in No. 3.
Also KKN may have picked up a few pointers on portraying a chaebol from his work in DEFENDANT (2017) my first KKN drama. There iirc he was Secretary to an evil chaebol played by Um Ki-joon.
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dreamy
June 20, 2020 at 7:29 AM
I squeaked a little when I saw KKN in Prison Playbook (which I watched after TKEM)
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14 WishfulToki
June 15, 2020 at 5:30 PM
Humph.
Yo-Yo Boy is in my bad books for being the one who bullied Shin-jae, andthen making him lose all his memories. The only saving grace was that Shin-jae accepted losing his memories. I would have been furious if Gon and Tae-eul had decided on the reset without consulting him (hey, they didn't even inform each other... so much for teamwork). Shin Jae is the one who made the real sacrifice here. He loved Tae-eul so much he was willing to forget his life with her. *cries* I don't care at all about him and Luna 2.0. Dude is fated to be friend-zoned if Yo-Yo has his way again.
Tae-eul retained her memories because of the PPL jewelry, duh.
*warning: I will keep ranting* Yo-Yo is clearly biased towards Gon and Tae-eul, so much that he even lets them use the sacred Silla relic as a dating adventure app. What happened to restoring balance and avoiding collision of the worlds? Isn't there another Gon running around in 1994? And if Gon is a tyrant in one world, doesn't that mean there could be a world out there where Rim succeeded? My brain is spinning.
Plus, the hard reset should not have changed the Prime Minister or Luna's lives. I liked seeing PM in prison clothes and Luna no longer a stray, but it had nothing to do with the story we've seen so far.
In sum, I'm sentencing KES to kdrama punishment for that sweet brainless ending: The Kimchi Slap. Beanies' predicted endings were better.
And as prescribed by Prince Buyeong, this is a good time to have a cup of tea and calm down. Thank goodness someone made sense in this drama! Congrats for sticking with the recaps @quirkycase. This was your baptism by fire as a recapper.
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💜🍍☠ Sicarius The Queen of Melonia ☠🍍💜
June 15, 2020 at 5:33 PM
"Tae-eul retained her memories because of the PPL jewelry, duh."
*dies laughing*
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Kairoskat is on LUCY Island 🏝
June 15, 2020 at 5:59 PM
Did yoyo boy bully him? I thought he just watched from the sidelines?
Mianhae my hard reset prediction came true 🤣🤣🤣
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💜🍍☠ Sicarius The Queen of Melonia ☠🍍💜
June 15, 2020 at 6:01 PM
Oh so it's your fault :P lol
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WishfulToki
June 15, 2020 at 6:19 PM
Pretty sure he's the leader of the bullies, but I have no intention of finding that scene to rewatch it lol.
I think you got a good deal: correctly predicted reset, and were crowned PPL queen. 👌
You were totally wrong about EVERYONE WILL DIE though. 😂😂😂😂
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Kairoskat is on LUCY Island 🏝
June 16, 2020 at 5:07 AM
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Kairoskat is on LUCY Island 🏝
June 16, 2020 at 5:09 AM
As queen of PPL land, I want my PPL subjects to shine. And boy they did. They were the talk of the town from start to finish *teary eyed 🤧*.
Lol. 'Everyone will die' was the easiest guess. They either die a bit inside (eg Gon-Taeul because they were too sad being apart) or a version cease to exist (eg Shinjae) or just die (eg Lee Rim). Hahahahahahahahaha 🤣
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YY Chats with Toast Between Bites
June 15, 2020 at 7:40 PM
Yo Yo Man was hot. I giggled when I saw him all grown up, and still yo-yoing.
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MeiDramaDreams
June 15, 2020 at 7:22 PM
I didn’t realize TE retained her memories because of the necklace. I thought it was because she was in the in-between world with Rim. And Yeong retained his because he was with Gon at that time.
Oh, I can see your rants. And unfortunately I’m too exhausted to go through it lol. But just to add one more...the hard reset, despite its good intentions, still had a flaw. It didn’t erase young ShinJae’s memory of his mother at the bridge. I understand its purpose of bringing Prince Buyeong’s kind influence into his life, just thinking maybe they could have done that differently.
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WishfulToki
June 15, 2020 at 7:31 PM
I was being very sarcastic about the necklace, sorry. So yeah, apparently what was in the in-between place at that moment didn't disappear, whether they were memories or physical things like the necklace.
Shin-jae's mom, and alternate Gon's mom were still a nasty piece of work. I'm glad Prince Buyeong intervened. I was unnerved to have to see alt-Gon's mom laughing manically again because she was so happy her husband died (?)
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MeiDramaDreams
June 15, 2020 at 7:40 PM
Oh my bad, I think my sarcasm floated away with the red balloons.
Now that you brought it up, Korea Gon’s mom is also a mystery to me. How Lee Jihun manage to become a well-functioning adult Naval officer is beyond me.
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YY Chats with Toast Between Bites
June 15, 2020 at 8:57 PM
It was the face mask. The enclosed space suppressed the memories so they remained intact.
Kurama
June 16, 2020 at 11:11 AM
I think that her husband was violent with her. So without husband, I guess life became easier even she had to take care of her son and the uncle.
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uzistar
June 15, 2020 at 9:25 PM
I was really surprised Yoyo boy let them use the flute that way. They weren't really saving the world when they're dating... why, because they made him whole again? and not bringing chaos to the worlds? tsk 😒
And the necklace! hahaha. When I saw it I thought,"oh, why does she still have it? because she was in the in-between? but the flute and Rim disappeared...? Ah, it's yoyo boy, aaalright" 😆
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WEnchanteur
June 16, 2020 at 11:45 AM
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Kairoskat is on LUCY Island 🏝
June 16, 2020 at 2:44 PM
*gasp* did they have a scene focusing on the necklace? Because I completely forgot or didn't notice it's existence in the new timeline 😅🤣.
But yay for necklace PPL surviving till the end~~~ 💎
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uzistar
June 16, 2020 at 10:19 PM
Hahaha I think it's when she woke up from the in-between, and focused when she met Gon. But yeah, the PPL survives and that's all that matters 😆
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mugyuljoie is preciousss
June 15, 2020 at 10:04 PM
Thank goodness the PPL jewelry was in the drama for a reason.
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Edgar Pordwed
June 16, 2020 at 2:43 AM
As a consolation, I think all the other Shin-jae and Tae-eul doppelgangers in other universes end up together... Jeong Tae-ra and all. It only didn't happen with Tae-eul and Shin-jae in this universe. Saying this based on the writer's doppelganger rule. Not sure.
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WalexB
June 16, 2020 at 9:26 AM
«As a consolation, I think all the other Shin-jae and Tae-eul doppelgangers in other universes end up together... Jeong Tae-ra and all. It only didn't happen with Tae-eul and Shin-jae in this universe.»
Well, Shin-Jae did get the Tae-Eul version called "Luna" in Lee-Gon's universe after all.
But I am amazed at Lee Gon's monogamy: discovering that there is a Tae-Eul version for every taste, and they seem mostly to have the same taste for hot, rich parallel world kings, he could feel very tempted.
Same for Tae-Eul and Lee Ji-Hun BTW, for her choice is more limited. :-)
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BLUEcheesecake
September 2, 2020 at 4:51 PM
[Lee Gon's monogamy eventhough there's a Tae-Eul version for every taste]
Hahahahahahahahaha oh my god i just finished the show last night and just woke up to this and now can't stop laughing 😂
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kiara
June 18, 2020 at 10:43 AM
When the fun is over and our brains settled, I feel like the biggest loser lol.
@wishfultoki I loved the ideas behind the show and the alternate history was appealing on paper. Crown Prince Sohyeon became king, a legend of a magical flute from the 3 kingdom era, parallel worlds, heroes from the past, current and past politics etc.
I was expecting a sageuk style fate. The fate that people fought against because only the past is set and they can change the future. What/Who the heck is fate anyway?
I was also waiting for the effing tree explanation to see how a magical flute originated from Silla would get mixed up with a gyesu tree aka Korean laurel/cinnamon tree from the Moon Rabbit folklore.
It made no freaking sense when it comes to the power of the flute.
I'd stick with the Korean's interpretation when it comes to their history. These two folklore have a Buddhism origin for your religion thread. Thanks for writing it!
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WishfulToki
June 18, 2020 at 9:18 PM
I did learn about mythology and folklore during this drama, so that's one positive outcome. Thank you for being on this sinking ship with me @kiara LOL. Hopefully our next sageuk-y drama does a better job! :)
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kiara
June 19, 2020 at 12:35 PM
@Toki thank you for being here and for helping make this a fun experience!
I was thinking of watching Arang again. I think I could've gotten more out of it with what I know now.
It took "Along with the Gods" for the locals to embrace the genre. Here is hoping for more in the future.
Btw, what are you currently watching? I want to watch "Wind Cloud and Rain" but I'm not a fan of the male lead.
Maybe I'll just ff through his scenes. The rest of the casts are some of my favorites.
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WishfulToki
June 19, 2020 at 8:00 PM
@kiara I just finished BALLAD OF SEODONG! I'm so glad I watched it. I cried in the final episode.
I was watching KINGMAKER (Wind, Cloud, and Rain) but I started losing interest in ep. 3. I don't think I'm in the mood for it.
I'm only watching HOSPITAL PLAYLIST at the moment, which I picked up mainly because of the band scenes I've seen on YouTube. It's working wonders to recover from TKEM. :D
15 ting
June 15, 2020 at 5:31 PM
JY wasn’t cussing LG. He was complaining about the Royal Guards losing some game but TE was being naughty when she misinterpreted the same for LG 🙂
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panshel
June 15, 2020 at 10:40 PM
Tae-eul wasn't being naughty; she genuinely doesn't know how to read lips. Yeong said "이공계 (science and engineering majors)", which only looks like "이곤 개 (Lee Gon dog)."
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BlueCouchPotato
June 16, 2020 at 8:14 AM
I was actually watching this part with the Korean subtitles on and was laughing my head off at the unintended pun. 😂
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16 Noname1234
June 15, 2020 at 5:45 PM
Finally, it’s the end of an era. An era where people justified The King’s achievements based on Netflix.
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Bow
June 16, 2020 at 1:08 AM
This was so frustrating haha. Like, yes, The Platform was also in Netflix's top 10 in many different countries - doesn't mean that it's good.
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Fly Colours
June 16, 2020 at 1:46 AM
Omg, The Platform is so bad! I just want to forget that one (*headshake). At least The King was fun!
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17 bips99
June 15, 2020 at 5:47 PM
Thanks for the recap. I dropped this show after the 15th episode. Go figure!.. I actually enjoyed it till ep 12/13.. But then the next 2 episodes just killed all enthusiasm i had for this..like it became unbearable.. And reading the recap I'm glad I didn't watch the finale. It makes my head hurt
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18 kakakash
June 15, 2020 at 5:48 PM
LOL @quirkycase your on the nose/straight-up writing is actually hilarious and a delight to read. Thank you for that and for all the recaps you endured.
Yes I found myself sighing a lot throughout this drama at all the lost potential. It was like a watching a person with advanced dementia start off thoughts with brilliant beginnings and never actually...finishing them.
Yeaaa I'm still gonna miss how the side characters' acting, soundtrack, and some nicely shot scenes made me feel though. This was crack at best.
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19 princesspreets
June 15, 2020 at 5:50 PM
the most unbelievably unsatisfying drama in a long time. and also, most polarizing - seriously made me re-evaluate my friendship with a few ppl who claimed to LOVE every bit of the show, omg.....!!! thank god for dramabeans’ reviews, at least i know i wasn’t alone n i know there’s still some sanity out there in the world...! lol. never been more glad that a show is finally over, haha
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icelemon
June 16, 2020 at 5:31 AM
Haha.. This is always the scenario between me and my friends. I never really like hype dramas and prefer more of the slice of life ones.
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20 akeela
June 15, 2020 at 6:15 PM
Episode 15 Tae-Eul: " I choose to abandon everything for Lee Gon, my life, family and friends. I choose love"
Episode 16 : " Oh well. I got my cake and I can eat it too" No need to choose, when I could have the best of both worlds.
This drama would have been better as a parody/ comedy.
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larelle79
June 15, 2020 at 6:42 PM
And they just completely ignored the fact that it was important for him to produce a heir. Asking about a Queen is not a question that is just not going to go away.
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WishfulToki
June 15, 2020 at 7:35 PM
Yup. The whole kingdom had heard him proclaim Tae-eul his queen and politicians were last seen digging into her background. That all just vanished into thin air. We should have seen Gon abdicate or name an heir at least. You don't just leave the future of a kingdom hanging like that.
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larelle79
June 15, 2020 at 8:04 PM
That vanishing at least made since at time recalculated after Rim died.
I am just saying he was going to be asked about a heir, no matter the timeline. So if they grew old together and just spent decades traveling, what about a heir?
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WishfulToki
June 15, 2020 at 8:12 PM
I agree. Poor Court Lady Noh is still putting talismans in his pocket but I don't know if it'll help. So, the issue of the "heir" was left hanging in mid "air".
And now I'll just go hide in a corner with my cup of tea, if not something stronger.
Kurama
June 16, 2020 at 12:01 AM
Maybe he made change the law and he will be able to adopt someone like Roman Emperors? A competent King and not just someone with his blood? The issue, it's the flute won't work anymore for the Royal Family (but considering the use Lee Gon makes, I am not sure that it is a loss for the flute)
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kiara
June 16, 2020 at 6:44 AM
Prince Buyeong had other children so the 2nd to the oldest would be the next king/queen after Lee Gon.
WishfulToki
June 16, 2020 at 7:17 AM
Obviously KES did not have in mind sageuk geeks when she wrote this finale. *gives best Court Lady Noh disapproving look*
There's also the faceless Se-jin @kiara. Though if Yeong did indeed kill the son of Prince Buyeong, she wouldn't exist either.
#zerobraincells
#TKEMhangover
kiara
June 16, 2020 at 8:17 AM
@wishfultoki
If they followed their own 3 generations treason law she wouldn’t be able to rule even if she existed.
The so called beautiful solution was to kill her off and get rid of another useless character who was basically pregnant for years in this show.
We almost have an alien chaebol baby haha.
lemoncello
June 16, 2020 at 5:05 AM
So basically Gon is without a heir, right? Oh well.. it's ended anyways, LoL.
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21 larelle79
June 15, 2020 at 6:40 PM
*sigh* I am salty and the GLARING plothole.
The only people that should have retained their memories were Gon and Head Court Lady Oh.
There is NO WAY that Jeong would remember Eun seob and Eun soeb not remember Jeong. It was just cruel as we cried buckets when they said goodbye to one another.
So, if Luna and Tae uel lives went back to what they were suppose to in 1994 and no interference from Rim because he is you know, dead, then no matter what parallel universe Gon visited in would not have matter because if everything was where it should have been in 1994, she should not have had any real memories of Gon as she was 5.
This final episode just made me so SALTY !!!
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BlueCouchPotato
June 15, 2020 at 8:09 PM
Repeating my rant for the past few days - I want my bromances back! *wail* *flail* 😭 If Gon can find that particular door to find "his" Tae-eul, why can't he help Yeong find "his" Eun-seob even just for a moment? The 65th dream remains unfulfilled 🥺🥺🥺
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larelle79
June 15, 2020 at 8:21 PM
Gon approaching Eun soeb in 2022 and Eun soeb not even having a glint of a memory of them just hurt my soul. And Jeong able to remember him (seriously show, it makes no sense that he does) was just. so. mean.
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22 Jingbee
June 15, 2020 at 6:42 PM
LOL! I like the homage to the PPL!. It is after all The King : Eternal PPL. In the end, this had been an epic comedy for me, as my husband and I began a Spot the PPL game while watching. It was fun. And oh, for the story I just read this recap, i think its a better way of appreciating the story. Thanks for the recap @quirkycase.
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23 KDramzFan
June 15, 2020 at 6:59 PM
I was let down.
1) No Fried Chicken
2) No speaking lines for Na-ri and her doppelgänger
3) Irresponsible tourism. In 2021 and 2022 is there no COVID???
Still the plants sprouted. And Luna had some kind of a nice life with a crush.
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24 mugyuljoie is preciousss
June 15, 2020 at 7:02 PM
On the positive side there were two Woo Do Hwans, one Kim Kyung Nam, and it gave some of us a lot to talk about. The last episode was interesting and I really want to see the drama that should've preceded it. Goodbye Eternal PPL.
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Sam
June 15, 2020 at 7:42 PM
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BlueCouchPotato
June 15, 2020 at 8:13 PM
Two KKNs - chaebol Shin-jae and officer Kang Hyun-min.
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mugyuljoie is preciousss
June 15, 2020 at 10:07 PM
Okay, briefly two KKNs.
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Kairoskat is on LUCY Island 🏝
June 15, 2020 at 11:39 PM
4 KKNs! There were 4 versions of him.
1. Shinjae
2. Bedridden Shinjae
3. Cop Shinjae in Corea
4. Chaebol Shinjae in Korea
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mugyuljoie is preciousss
June 15, 2020 at 11:46 PM
Then how many WDH's?
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Fly Colours
June 16, 2020 at 12:56 AM
Only 2, I protest against this doppelganger imbalance!
Since this episode was shameless fan-service, they could at least have included WDH alternates in different outfits and hairstyles like they did with TE
Kurama
June 16, 2020 at 2:00 AM
@flyingcolours WDH would have killed it!
BlueCouchPotato
June 16, 2020 at 2:49 AM
Some suggestions:
1. Chaebol WDH (with LMH as bodyguard)
2. Leather-clad biker WDH with punk/glam rock hair
3. Evil rocket scientist WDH (think Nicholas Hoult in the Jaguar CFs)
4. Street bum WDH
5. Rurouni Kenshin WDH (we finally get to see him demonstrate his swordsmanship)
😂😂😂
Kairoskat is on LUCY Island 🏝
June 16, 2020 at 4:07 AM
Reading all the suggestions about spinoff versions...I standby with my comment for ep 16: it should have been the whole drama. Fluff time travel parallel world romcom. So many characters can be made, a comedy with no need for angsty doppelganger switching. And....I want to see tyrant Gon 🤣.
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25 MeiDramaDreams
June 15, 2020 at 7:05 PM
So I’m one of the few that enjoyed it, flaws and all. I was looking for a fun and entertaining show and on that note, I’d say drama delivered. I think the production design team are worth a mention because cinematography and aesthetics are stunning. Not to mention the work going into the special effects when doppelgängers meet. Or when they were on the same screen. It’s probably a lot easier in reality than I imagine. Still, the seamless integration of the scenes were handled very well from my viewpoint. Also that meant we got to see WooDoHwan times two in one screen, I couldn’t ask for more.
The orchestral music team are worth a mention too. They managed to evoke the right emotions onto the scenes for me more than the OSTs did. I’d probably be listening to the instrumental versions of the soundtrack more since there was only one song that I have been playing on repeat and that’s Gravity by Kim Jong Wan. I was happy to hear from him again as the last time a song of his was on repeat was The Memory of That Day from Suspicious Partners.
I went in saying that I wouldn’t expect anything from it though at some point I started to care for the other characters like Yeong/Eunsob and ShinJae and I wanted them to have a happy ending. I had read from other sites that the writer made some changes for the conclusion as she had previously intended for TaeEul and some other characters to die. I’m just glad that we didn’t get an eternal loop ending or an ending that starts at the beginning sequence. I’m also glad the Alice dream theory was also debunked.
Overall, it’s an enjoyable watch and something that has kept my mind off things. It’s probably best to binge it just to avoid dwelling too much on the confusion. Though theorizing and analyzing with Beanies made it more fun too.
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WishfulToki
June 15, 2020 at 7:40 PM
Was the Alice theory debunked? How do you know we won't wake up and find that we dreamed up this eternal ppl madness? ;)
I would have liked to see the original ending... I didn't know she changed her mind. Bah humbug.
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mugyuljoie is preciousss
June 15, 2020 at 10:17 PM
I enjoyed the comment section more than the drama. It was pretty to watch.
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Rebecca Smith
June 17, 2020 at 10:04 AM
I was one of the few who liked TKEM ,too.I can't really understand why people are complaining about 'logic' and stuff like that ,when we have a flute opening "doors" to parallel universes and a "yoyo boy", who is clearly a deity ,pulling the strings of the character's "fate" and is able to manipulate time ,space and matter.
I enjoyed this drama for what it was,not what I expected it to be. It wasn't even "cheesy" enough,compared to many of the dramas out there.LMH's kdramas are the only ones I am able to see ,without falling asleep.I usually watch shows like "Dr House" and "Bones".TKEM was refreshing and made my days in quarantine exciting and kept me waiting every week .
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mindy
June 17, 2020 at 10:30 AM
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Midnight
June 17, 2020 at 11:08 AM
LOL at the bed and breakfast in the middle of Mordor!
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mindy
June 17, 2020 at 11:33 AM
Oh no Midnight I'm sorry, I deleted because I figured I shouldn't comment on a drama I haven't seen much of!
But I'm glad that got a laugh out of someone!
Midnight
June 17, 2020 at 3:33 PM
I didn't watch it either. But reading the comments was delicious entertainment!
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