The King: Eternal Monarch: Episode 14
by quirkycase
It’s time for our hero to revisit his traumatic past and play his part in a pivotal moment. He and his traitorous uncle race to turn their versions of events into reality, gambling everything on this move. When it’s all said and done, will it be worth it?
EPISODE 14
While Shin-jae searches one of the rooms, Tae-eul calls to let him know she found Eun-ah’s body. The beeping of a life support machine triggers his memory of waking up hooked to a similar machine. Shin-jae drops his phone in shock. His alternate lies comatose in one of the beds. Oh, snap.
In the kingdom, Ok-nam worries about Gon while an artist drones on about the insanely bright portrait of Gon he painted. Her worry is on point because, in the republic, Luna is searching a poisoned Gon for the flute.
Yeong returns, forcing Luna to flee empty handed. He prioritizes Gon and doesn’t pursue her. Instead, he calls Tae-eul who calls Moon-shik’s wife for help since Gon is undocumented and can’t go to the hospital.
At the care center, Shin-jae is surprised to see Lee Sang-do’s wife working as a nurse. Her husband’s “friend” paid off their debt and got her the job. Noting Shin-jae’s resemblance (that’s an understatement) to the patient, she assumes he’s family. She was told to inform the family member who comes to visit that someone will call.
Tae-eul arrives at the clinic while Yeong is still waiting for news. They’re told Gon was poisoned but will be okay. Tae-eul promises to explain later, so Moon-shik’s wife agrees to keep this quiet, even from her husband.
Yeong stops Tae-eul from going into Gon’s room since he can’t be sure she isn’t Luna. (Better late than never.) Tae-eul calls Eun-seob to tell him he should take the twins and go stay with her dad. If anyone looking like her shows up, he’s to contact her straight away. By the time Yeong steps back into the hallway, Tae-eul is gone.
Meanwhile, Rim is in the bamboo forest, contemplating how Gon managed to find the specific point in time to ruin his plan. A flute sounds, and in the clinic, Gon wakes. The first thing he asks is if Tae-eul knows, and he guesses Yeong was harsh with her.
Yeong insists they should return to Corea, but Gon wants to hear what it was Yeong wanted to say before the poisoning. Yeong thinks of Jung-hye but fibs he doesn’t remember. Gon lets it slide and informs him he’s leaving. He tasks Yeong with protecting Tae-eul.
Gon reveals that he was the one who saved his child self, and today is the day. He’s hearing the same flute sounds he heard that night. Gon dons his stealth outfit from Tae-eul and heads to the gate.
In the bamboo forest, he and Rim stand on opposite sides of the gate but can’t see each other. They enter the between place simultaneously. Rim’s is filled with floating photos while Gon’s is filled with balloons for some reason. As they reach the halfway point, they hear the flute sound and realize the other must be near.
They each sprint to the opposite gate. A picture of Tae-eul floats away and disintegrates (her lily seed sprouts where it touched) as yo-yo kid narrates that, when the flute is made whole inside the gate, the “axes for time and space” form. It then has the handy function of taking you to the exact moment in time in which you hope to save yourself.
Yo-yo kid explains to Jung-hye that both Gon and Rim were taken to that same night because Gon wanted to save both worlds while Rim wanted to save himself from failure. Rim approaches his 1994 self who gets his confirmation that the legend of the magic flute is real.
With that out of the way, Rim instructs him to change course and kill Gon first so he can’t stop the coup. In an odd turn, 1994 Rim condescendingly starts mocking 2020 Rim for his failure and notes that age doesn’t always bring wisdom. So now he’s insulting all versions of himself, I guess.
He then whips out 2020 Rim’s sword and slits 2020 Rim’s throat because it’s his coup and his flute, dammit. 1994 Rim greedily grabs the bloodied flute half, but it disintegrates in his hand. Enraged, he begins hacking at 2020 Rim’s body with the sword. Geez.
Yo-yo kid continues story time with Jung-hye and narrates that Rim failed his mission and instead created the monster he became. When Jung-hye asks who yo-yo kid is, they give the familiar response about warning people and defeating the enemy. But this time, yo-yo kid adds: “I also want to save myself and become whole.” Ooh, is the kid the flute? That’s an odd sentence to write.
Jung-hye asks what happens to Gon, and yo-yo kid responds he’s following his destiny. The kid asks rhetorically if he’ll return safely or get lost along the way. Because the flute is powerless when halved.
And now we return to the violent events of that night where everything proceeds exactly as before. Once Rim and his men clear out, Gon crouches beside the body of his father and gently closes his father’s eyes. He then moves to his own little body and checks his pulse. As before, little Gon grabs Tae-eul’s ID.
On his way out, Gon runs into Ok-nam. He knows she won’t believe him, but he’s the king. She’s outraged by this claim. He uncovers his face and says he’s indebted to her. Like she said, he’s following his destiny. With tears in his eyes, he asks her to let him go, and she does.
Gon notices bloodstains outside and whirls as guards come up behind him. He names the traitors with Rim, but the guards don’t trust him. He gets them to lower their guns by holding one of the men at gunpoint. Gon then follows the bloodstains that lead him to … Prince Bu-yeong’s son. Gon realizes he’s the one who helped Rim escape and shoots him in the leg.
In the republic, Tae-eul finds Gon’s room empty. Yeong picks up his phone and relays Gon’s message that he’s sorry about leaving without saying goodbye. She drops to the ground and cries.
Shin-jae visits his father in prison after asking his mother if he used to run a care center. Ooh. “You’re the one who turned Kang Hyun-min into Kang Shin-jae, aren’t you?” His father’s eyes widen, and he guesses that Shin-jae met “that man.”
Shin-jae puts together that Rim made the switch in exchange for the care center and its morgue. His father impatiently asks if Shin-jae is going “there.” What about him? Shin-jae takes a shuddering breath and asks for the full story.
His father explains that Shin-jae wasn’t going to wake up, and his mother was devastated. Rim showed him Hyun-min’s picture and offered to buy the care center with Hyun-min as a bonus. Wow. Sounding desperate, his father tells Shin-jae to ask Rim to visit him just once. Later, Shin-jae watches his mother from a distance, recalling her words that he’s her “miracle child.”
Meanwhile, Gon travels back and forth through the gate but is trapped in 1994 no matter which world he enters. He realizes that he needs both flute halves to travel through time. Without it, he’ll have to wait out the 26 years (about four months in the between place).
In the republic, Gon recalls that it’s around the time his alternate and his family will die. Using a payphone, he calls the police with a tip, but it’s too late – Ji-hoon died that morning. Gon stands alone in the field he and Tae-eul once visited. The flute half partially disintegrates in his hand.
He goes to Tae-eul’s place and runs into little Tae-eul outside. The white bow in her hair suggests her mother must’ve just passed. She asks who he is, and he honestly replies he’s someone from another time on his way back to her. Little Tae-eul has an epiphany and decides he must be a kidnapper. Ha.
Gon chuckles that her personality hasn’t changed a bit. A woman comes up to Tae-eul protectively. Gon claims he’s an acquaintance of Instructor Jung’s and gives his condolences. He strokes little Tae-eul’s hair and leaves.
In 2020, Tae-eul waters her seeds that refuse to sprout and wonders why Gon isn’t returning. Kyung-ran calls and plays Gon’s report to the cops from 1994 that suddenly appeared. He’s the suspect in the family’s deaths.
A new memory of meeting Gon in 1994 surfaces for Tae-eul. Everything clicks and she realizes he must’ve gotten stuck in the past after returning to the night of the coup. She cries as she imagines him standing in front of her.
Elsewhere, Shin-jae and his psychiatrist sit beside his alternate in an ambulance. She takes the situation in stride, recognizing that everything he told her was real. When she asks which is Shin-jae and which is Hyun-min, he says he’s trying to figure that out.
The following day, Tae-eul and her team start digging into the care center. After multiple all-nighters, the exhausted team finally finds an address and heads to Jung-hye’s apartment. But Rim’s people have already moved Jung-hye, cleared out and rigged the place to blow. Thankfully, Tae-eul smells the gas, and they escape just in time.
Pregnant lady from Corea breaks a bottle over her abusive partner’s head and flees the house. Rim’s “manager” is waiting outside and offers her the chance to get her life back. What is she willing to do for that chance? The woman drops to her knees, willing to do anything.
In the kingdom, Seo-ryung’s mom calls and assures her she’s doing well at her sister’s. Her mom’s voice breaks slightly as she asks if Seo-ryung is okay. Seo-ryung cryptically instructs her to say she had mackerel for dinner if she asks and promises to call again. (Is someone finally using codewords?)
Seo-ryung thinks of the last time she saw Gon and is sure he recognized the mark on her neck. Why can only he and Rim access the gates? Seo-ryung doesn’t see why she can’t have the flute, too. Uh-oh.
In the republic, Tae-eul melancholically roams the bamboo forest. She stares at the payphone, reminiscing about her and Gon’s last dramatic reunion in this forest. Tae-eul leaves some change, presumably in case Gon returns and needs to call, and wonders if Gon is almost back yet.
Out of nowhere, Tae-eul exclaims, “Election day!” We flash back to 2016. The whole gang is gathered for a meal. Oddly, everyone keeps getting a call from the same number. Shin-jae finally decides to answer, and it’s Gon’s voice on the line.
He asks Shin-jae to pass the phone to Tae-eul beside him. Tae-eul spots Gon in the payphone booth across the street. Rather than take the call, she marches over to him. She recognizes him as the man she met when she was little.
Tae-eul is startled to see nothing about him has changed from his outfit to his face. He notes the outfit was a gift from her while his face is a gift to her. Pfft. She informs him she’ll need to see his ID and searches for a hair tie. Gon silently slips one on her wrist, to her surprise.
He looks toward the restaurant, happy to see everyone gathered together. Tae-eul asks how he knew her name. Even though he was prepared for her not recognizing him, it’s still hard. Gon came so he could be a part of her memories and encourages the future her to stay strong and wait for him.
Gon claims they’ll meet again. Referencing their first meeting in her world, he asks her to be a little nicer this time and make more time for him. He can’t come often since the cracks in the flute are deepening. After a long look, he says goodbye and leaves.
In the present, Tae-eul cries at the realization that he came to see her. As she watches in shock, words are etched into the phone booth: “Wait for me a little longer. I’m almost there.”
Yeong is having the same memory insertion situation. He remembers Gon coming to him on the day of the rowing competition and asking for a key card to the stables. He sticks it in the pocket of a rabbit hoodie which he then drapes over a bench.
Gon tells Yeong that he’ll one day be stranded in the Republic of Korea and instructs him to find Jung-hye. He speculates she’s what Yeong had wanted to talk to him about over drinks that day. Gon knows he won’t trust Tae-eul at that time, so he should reach out to Shin-jae instead.
When Yeong asks if he’s met Tae-eul, Gon claims he’s on his way to her now. He can’t miss a single moment, or he won’t be able to meet her. Later, Luna races through the streets and finds the key card in her pocket.
In the republic, Eun-seob calls Tae-eul when he sees Luna go into a supermarket with her dad and Na-ri. Tae-eul tells him to follow her. On the way home, the incessant bickering between Tae-eul’s dad and Na-ri makes Luna laugh. They stare in confusion as she wonders aloud if Jung Tae-eul gets to listen to this all the time. She smiles as they comment that she’s losing it.
Luna turns and sees Tae-eul watching her. Tae-eul clenches her fist when Luna calls out to her dad and Na-ri. The alternates meet in an alley, and Luna reminds Tae-eul she warned her she’d die if they met. Then, she rushes Tae-eul and stabs her in the gut.
Luna has experienced loss every day of her life, and now it’s Tae-eul’s turn. She yanks the knife out and pushes Tae-eul off her. There are tears in her eyes as she walks away.
Tae-eul manages to call the police and request backup before dropping the phone. The memory of her first meeting with Gon surfaces, but it’s different. This time, she recognizes him. Crying, the current Tae-eul pleads with herself to hug him.
In her new memory, Tae-eul notes with surprise that Gon really did show up like he said he would. Gon is confused that she seems to know him. Tae-eul narrates that there are no coincidences when fate is involved, but you inevitably realize it’s meaning too late.
Eyes misty, Tae-eul tells him she’ll regret not doing this and, in a reversal of their original meeting, throws her arms around him.
COMMENTS
Wait a minute, so Rim just took himself out of the equation? I expected some big confrontation between Rim and Gon, and instead we get an unhinged dude offing himself so he doesn’t have to share the glory with … himself. Now it feels like all Gon and Tae-eul’s work trying to stop him was in vain since they could’ve just sat and waited for him to stop himself. Of course, this is assuming that he actually is dead and gone now. The timeline manipulation stuff is being used all willy-nilly, so it wouldn’t shock me if there were some convenient mechanism that allows for him to still exist or something. Because how convenient was it that the flute just happens to take you to when you need to save yourself? Maybe it would’ve made sense had there been some set up for the nature of the flute and how that particular power fits in. As it stands, that’s some deus ex machina magic right there.
I had a hard time connecting with Gon’s tragic predicament this hour because I kept trying to make sense of all the timeline stuff. Creating a realistic or, at least, logical time travel scenario is always tricky. Strictly speaking, only the person manipulating the timeline should have memories of the original timeline. The only reason I can come up with to explain why Tae-eul and Yeong would now have both sets of memories is that whoever has used the gate retains their old memories. But that’s a logical stretch since they only traveled through worlds and not through time. And that’s not even getting into the fact that Gon supposedly went around making all the things that happened come to pass. If that’s the case, no one’s memories should be altered because that’s what happened in the first place. Then again, I don’t think a thorough exploration of the ramifications of time travel is what they were going for here.
One thing I wish had been made a little clearer is how time is passing for Gon. If 26 years equals 4 months in the between place, how long is he gone for in 2020? And now I’m having flashbacks to math word problems *Shudders*. Time wouldn’t just stop for everyone else while he galivants through space and time, but it might not move linearly at the same pace in both timelines either. Here’s hoping they clear it up in the final episodes.
And then we have Luna still wreaking havoc. I can’t figure out if she was truly trying to kill Tae-eul or not. If so, wouldn’t she have taken her phone so she couldn’t call for help? That seems like a rookie mistake someone like Luna wouldn’t make. She seemed torn about it, so maybe she was sort of leaving Tae-eul’s death up to fate. I haven’t fully decided how I feel about Luna as a character. She’s pitiful but also kind of murderous. I mean, we got that scene of her softening, laughing and enjoying the normality of Tae-eul’s life, immediately followed by her committing a brutal stabbing. Girl needs some therapy. Thanks to Shin-jae, there is one psychiatrist who has some experience with a very niche clientele. And let’s face it, everyone’s gonna need therapy when this is all over. Possibly excepting Eun-seob who seems unusually well adjusted, handling things like a boss.
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1 Fantasy101
June 7, 2020 at 7:17 PM
This episode is like The Lake House meets The Avengers. Left me more confused. First off, why would TE knowing that Luna is around, not protect herself and her close family? Second, knowing that all the copycats have been killed, why would you not protect yourself. If she did, Gon would not have been poisoned as well. Also, what are these new memories that she has been having of Gon? It doesn’t make any sense because she would have remembered him during all their time together.
The only person I have sympathy for is Shin Jae. No one is helping him deal with his issues as he tries to find the truth for himself. These comments are related to episode 14 only.
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uzistar
June 7, 2020 at 7:55 PM
I was also expecting that Taeul has a backup plan, esp. since she's in the violent crimes division. Also hoping that at least one Unbreakable Sword was there.
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parkchuna adores YoungWon couples Forever 🍉
June 7, 2020 at 8:38 PM
I had flashbacks of Lake House too while watching this! The time travel and retaining new memories really confused me - like wouldn’t her life be so messed up now with all the new events in her head?
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lexyk
June 8, 2020 at 6:12 AM
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lexyk
June 8, 2020 at 6:18 AM
Exactly! I just could not understand that part. I mean, we saw Tae Eul and Eun Seop communicating, and Eun Seop tailing Luna. So I thought they all organized, even with the Dad and Na Ri included, and had a plan to catch Luna. I could not understand why she would go ALONE in that dark alley to confront Luna. I mean what was her plan?? At least, have Eun Seop, Shin jae around? I mean this whole episode left me 😳😳 but this scene just did it 😳🙄😤
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2 grande
June 7, 2020 at 7:23 PM
This storyline is getting more and more confusing, bringing time travel and time looping and different timelines? how are they gonna make it so its not messy? and if there's a Gon that doesn't understand what's happening (for example when he met Taeul for the first time and she hugged him first but he was like "i didnt expect you to know) doesnt that mean there will be two Lee Gon's now when the original gets back to 2020??? my brain is gonna explode. Interesting story but very very complicated.
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dramafan100
June 7, 2020 at 7:34 PM
The only thing that made sense around time travel to me, is memories flashing up to people when Gon goes puts those memories.
They did not exist in original timeline. Then he goes back and makes them, and that is why those memories become vivid as if they just happened.
But, the fact that 1994 Rim killed his 2020 Rim made me think, there is a 1994 Rim that will grow up and become 2020 Rim anyways - because 1994 Rim still exists.
So, what about Gon. 1994 Gon will grow up and become 2020 Gon but then 2020 Gon is in 1994!! So, now we have two Gons right?
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Lord Cobol (Kdramas, like water, flow downhill)
June 7, 2020 at 7:58 PM
No, our non-duplicating travelers may actually be logical (for once!)
1994 Rim is alive, and can circle around until 2020 and then decide whether or not to repeat that mistake, unless Gon catches him first.
2020 Gon disappeared from 2020 when he went back to 1994, so there will only be one 2020 Gon when he finally arrives there -- assuming he waits till after his departure date.
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dramafan100
June 7, 2020 at 8:16 PM
Fair but that also means, the romantic pair is not the same anymore.
TE is in love with 2020 Gon - not 1994 Gon. Even if we argue it is the same person, they are kinda not.
Their love story starts from them meeting on that horseback and all the memories since. So, TE is in love with 2020 Gon.
That is why the whole things feels strange.
May be, we can simply assume that TE that hugs Gon is different TE. Not the current TE.
There is just another parallel universe now.
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Elso
June 9, 2020 at 12:42 PM
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Elso
June 9, 2020 at 12:57 PM
Think it's safe to say that 1994 Gon's memories becomes 2020 Gon's new memories. And Yes there are 2 Gons- All while Gon got stuck in time/between realms during the 4 months while he was trying to get back to the present day.
Did you watch Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban? Remember after Harry and Hermione save the day and they return to the Hospital ward where Ron is; they briefly see their past selves and the past selves disappear because they came back to the moment they left? That's how I'm making sense of this nonsense!
Based on how the story unfolds it's assumed there's only one timeline and multiple parallel worlds. LG altered TE's past by visiting her and telling her to hug him, she got a new memory and knew he was stuck in the past.
I mean the whole time travel plot is so illogical, nonsensical and a disservice.
Whatishappening
June 12, 2020 at 11:37 PM
I’ve been trying to figure out how 2020 Rim appears in 2020 after his 1994 self killed his 2020 self, and your explanation makes sense - that he chooses not to go back in time. But wouldnt this mean that the two halves of the flute wouldnt be in the portal at the same time and 2020 Gon wouldnt have been able to use both axes to travel back in time?
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stpauligurl
June 8, 2020 at 10:07 AM
Oh my head is spinning. It was confusing enough to watch the show and try to keep up with what is happening, but now I'm even more confused!!!
I'll read more slowly this time. Maybe I need a blackboard like Gon to lay this all out.
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Whatishappening
June 12, 2020 at 11:34 PM
I’ve been trying to figure out how 2020 Rim appears in 2020 after his 1994 self killed his 2020 self, and your explanation makes sense - that he chooses not to go back in time. But wouldnt this mean that the two halves of the flute wouldnt be in the portal at the same time and 2020 Gon wouldnt have been able to use both axes to travel back in time?
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3 dramafan100
June 7, 2020 at 7:27 PM
Gosh, I have been waiting for the recap, hoping, I might understand what is going on. But, clearly, we are on the same page!!
You described the episode well @quirkycase, except I still don't get 'it'.
Ha ha ha.
I am going to wait for the experts in comments. I really really want to understand what is going on and more importantly, why.
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silverdrafts
June 7, 2020 at 8:46 PM
Yea, I feel that KES can help us, the viewers, better by lying out the logic earlier on the drama, so the final episodes can focus on how the protagonists (Gon & co) can leverage that knowledge to their advantage, but the time-travel stuff is just introduced on this ep. I feel like this should be the time to be fully immersed in the conflict resolutions, rather than dividing our minds in figuring out how all of this timey-wimey-wibbly-wobbly stuff works.
When I watched Gon time travelling, I just went- "Finally!"
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wapz
June 8, 2020 at 4:29 AM
Ditto. The viewers kind of knew time traveling since the first episode and they took 14 episodes for the characters to reach there. So idk what this show is about, was it all about figuring out about the time travel? Because that took the longest and there's an evil guy that needs to be defeated by going back in time and that's it?
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4 thisahotmess
June 7, 2020 at 7:30 PM
Made an account just so I can comment on how big of a hot mess this show is. Hot, yes (really visuals all we be counting on now). But wow a mess.
"no one’s memories should be altered because that’s what happened in the first place." EXACTLY. Couldn't even concentrate on watching the show bc I was too busy trying to wrap my brain around why TE and Yeong would be getting these "memories" and that message written in their brains in real-time? Bc if Gon is changing the past, those memories should have already been there??
Also, does this mean that there are 2 LEE GONs running around this universe rn? The big LG who saved little LG and is speeding thru time creating these "new memories" and the little LG growing up in Corea and finally making his way over w Maximus at Gwanghwamun? But the OG TE is the one who met both of these LGs, so there are 2 LGs but only 1 TE still?
And since there's only 1 Rim (i thought it was pretty in character for him to kill himself at that moment), why can't LG go kill Rim while he's speeding thru time (since newbie Rim wouldn't know how tf this all works yet) instead of tracking down TE and leaving these random "memoriez"??
Honestly, I feel bad for the actors. I feel like they're all doing a good job (not great, I mean the 2 mains feel very "recycled") but like this just ain't it. KES clearly did not have dramabeanies as proof-readers.
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dramafan100
June 7, 2020 at 7:40 PM
I was trying to wrap my head around why Gon was surprised when TE hugged him - I still don't get it.
When the drama begins, Gon is looking for TE and glad he found her. I am assuming that is the original timeline. in that timeline, TE really does not know Gon at all. How did she change her mind????? She was not time traveling...
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thisahotmess
June 7, 2020 at 9:21 PM
So TE "changed her mind" bc she has those "extra memories" that the original Gon had made as he was speeding through time (i.e. the little TE w her mom's black belt, election day promise to meet at Gwanghwamun, writing in photo booth). So she recognized him from her memories and hugged him first.
Basically this time-travelling creates an ENDLESS time loop where what you're referring to as "the original timeline" where TE does not have these "extra memories" may not even exist anymore bc the past got changed and will continue to be changed in this manner as the newly rescued little Gon grows up, meets TE again, goes time-travelling again, etc. etc. etc....
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Fantasy101
June 7, 2020 at 9:43 PM
I had to use a lot of brain cells to go back and understand what happens in that final scene. Yes, you are correct that Gon went back and created new memories and that is why when they met the 2nd time, she welcomed him instead. But, wouldn't that have altered their relationship going forward. Episodes 2 and after would have changed because Gon would not have needed to try so hard to convince her?
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FormAnOrderlyQueue
June 7, 2020 at 9:49 PM
The voiceover confirmed that - she believed him faster, she went to Corea earlier, they spent more time together.
Socially Distant
June 7, 2020 at 11:22 PM
I am wondering as well. During the rowing competition, LG (2020, in black outfit) said he's on his way to meet TE and he shouldn't miss a second or else they would not meet... This meeting is supposed to be the original meeting in Gwanghwamun, is my understanding. At the same time, LG (1994 survivor, the rower) will also be meeting TE in the same Gwanghwamun that LG (2020) is aiming for. If the timing of both LG's are perfect, there would have been two LGs meeting TE at Gwanghwamun each riding their own Maximus, wearing the diamond buttoned coat. But it seems only one LG arrived in time at the meet-up place What happened to the other LG? Or did one of these LGs disintegrate as soon as both of them caught up to the present timeline, just as the flute disintegrated? So confused!
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Socially Distant
June 7, 2020 at 11:24 PM
From LG's surprise at TE recognizing him immediately and the instant hug he received from TE, that LG is the 1994 one. LG 2020 would not have been surprised at the recognition since he had visited TE at least twice to plant the memory in her.
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FormAnOrderlyQueue
June 8, 2020 at 12:45 AM
No, different meeting. When he says he shouldn't miss a second, he's referring to re-entering time in 2020 to meet up with Tae Eul (who's just been stabbed). If he gets that wrong by a second, he could end up in 2021...
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Anna
June 8, 2020 at 8:19 AM
I don't think 1994 LG disintegrates, but he *technically* disappears when he reaches the current timeline of when 2020 LG disappears to go back to 1994. Does that make sense? So, once everything converges again, there is only 2020 LG because 1994 LG has lived through where 2020 LG left off. When 1994 LG reaches the point where 2020 LG left to go save himself, 1994 disappears because he's *technically* gone back (?), but this time, just disappears because he's done what he needed to do? IDK. That's all I got right now lol
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Anna
June 8, 2020 at 8:21 AM
He was surprised because that is 1994 LG and not 2020 LG. 2020 LG is/was in the inbetween place waiting it out until the timeline fell back in place to after the point where he left to go back in time.
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nfabjoy
June 9, 2020 at 3:51 PM
There’s three timelines and three Lee Gons . We have Alpha , beta and resolution. Alpha is the timeline and characters we have been watching and the Lee Gon with half the flute till ep 13 .Beta is the Lee Gon that’s been doing inception on people (adding memories) and resolution is the Lee Gon thats probably going to resolve everything. The one we are seeing right now ep 14 is Beta as he met Tae Eul in the square with the jacket and was confused . Right now - Tae Eul is the one with the memories because Beta Lee Gon implanted them .
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YY Chats with Toast Between Bites
June 7, 2020 at 10:49 PM
I would like to suggest these helpful tips to all the beanies out there holding their heads between their hands right now.
1. Do not think.
2. Watch each scene as it plays.
3. Never ever ask Why, When, Where or How. And in particular, never yell out loud, "WHAT????!!!!"
4. Tell yourself you are watching an EPIC love story.
5. Feel free to giggle or laugh out loud at slo-mo strut moments. I cackled at the LMH on his high horse bursting out of the bamboo forest scene. Doesn't matter how many times they show it, I burst a vein laughing each time.
6. Flailing for a solid two seconds helps to dispel all those silly thoughts clouding your head. The motion relieves stress, and makes you so giddy you stop thinking in a heartbeat. And remember, it's two seconds, so no cheating!
Good luck, guys. I hope this helps.
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mugyuljoie is preciousss
June 7, 2020 at 10:53 PM
Laughing at the moments that aren't funny, but strike you as funny also is a great ab workout. LR makes me laugh all the time for all the wrong reasons. I'm a little sad that he wasn't a better fleshed out character, but then he wouldn't make me laugh.
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Slice-of-Life Dramatics
June 8, 2020 at 2:18 AM
Should have read this before watching this episode (or this entire drama) damn.
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parkchuna adores YoungWon couples Forever 🍉
June 8, 2020 at 4:05 AM
I think this should be at the info page of each site streaming the show. and maybe on top of the 1st episode recap for future Beanies looking for guidance.
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sirena
June 8, 2020 at 6:35 AM
Thank you, this was the encouragement that I needed :)
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stpauligurl
June 8, 2020 at 10:16 AM
Perfect advice! Now I can stop reading all the comments that have me so darned confused!
*bows deeply to yy*
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mugyuljoie is preciousss
June 7, 2020 at 10:50 PM
Welcome!
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5 Kairoskat is on LUCY Island 🏝
June 7, 2020 at 7:36 PM
I gotta say...bedridden Shinjae looks healthy and well fed despite being unconcious from around 25 years ago 🤭
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mugyuljoie is preciousss
June 7, 2020 at 7:48 PM
I thought so too. They looked exactly the same. Great genes?
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parkchuna adores YoungWon couples Forever 🍉
June 7, 2020 at 8:40 PM
Good head of hair too 😁
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mugyuljoie is preciousss
June 7, 2020 at 10:54 PM
Same stylist.
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YY Chats with Toast Between Bites
June 7, 2020 at 11:05 PM
The lipbalm helped.
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mugyuljoie is preciousss
June 8, 2020 at 1:54 AM
*ahem* multi-purpose balm
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Iamastonished
August 8, 2021 at 11:17 AM
I want the lip balm. This product placement worked on me.
Yn00na
June 7, 2020 at 9:17 PM
Never mind that evil uncle and gank happily kill all the doppelgangers that have no use for them. Why they would keep a comatose child all the way to adulthood is beyond me.
Maybe evil uncle secretly a fan of Kim Kyung Nam. I don't blame him 🤪
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Kurama
June 8, 2020 at 2:22 AM
Maybe because he's the son of the guy who got him the place in the first place?
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Yn00na
June 8, 2020 at 2:48 AM
Hmm... evil uncle doesn't come across as someone who's thankful, loyal, or compassionate to me tho. But who knows... you maybe right. Character consistency is not exactly this drama strong suit.
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Kurama
June 8, 2020 at 4:18 AM
But he kills if it brings something to him. Killing the poor boy was useless...
kiara
June 8, 2020 at 8:09 AM
Rim had a deal with the dad to switched the boys but I don't think killing off the Korean Shin-jae was part of it. He is still his real son but he agreed to the switch for his wife.
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Kairoskat is on LUCY Island 🏝
June 8, 2020 at 1:38 PM
Ngahaha. Probably it's Korea dads tiny bit of conscience left that kept Korea Shinjae alive, he's still his biological son.
What I find weird is Shinjae's memories. He seems to have different sets of memories. He remembers being bedridden (did they drug him and force him to act? 🤷🏻♀️). He remembers being picked by Rim in front of a TV store....the recent memory is him and Corea mum being threatened by Rim and mum agreed to follow Rim's plan. As much as I like KKN acting Shinjae's complexity, I find that the inconsistencies(?) of his past makes me unable to immerse in Shinjae's arc. He has so many things going on for him. Also...I'm kinda convinced he's gonna die after that sudden confession in ep 15. I just feel that no drama character confesses that late and live to tell the story 😅.
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yumei paints cats
July 25, 2020 at 10:38 AM
ACK! Sorry for being negative, Katakwasabi, but I read your reply before watching ep 15 and it really spoiled the intensity of the reveal. :(
Even small remarks about what will happen later can change the way other viewers will experience the scene ("expectation spoilers").
Why don't people keep events from later episodes on the page dedicated to that specific ep?
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nfabjoy
June 9, 2020 at 3:56 PM
Uncle preys on socially tragic people of society.
The two Shin Jae’s are bargaining chips . The Shin Jae we know is a bargaining chip for the palace maid and the former care center owner whilst comatose Shin Jae is the “bad move” that Uncle referred to in previous episodes .
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BlueCouchPotato
June 7, 2020 at 10:19 PM
Well poisoning, gunshot wounds don't mean a thing it seems. Along with plaster bandages on your neck that suddenly appear and disappear. (Unless of course I missed something)
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6 uzistar
June 7, 2020 at 7:43 PM
It's interesting that they were only able to time travel because the two halves were both at the portal or the in-between at the same time (making it "whole"), so no one can do it alone and have an unfair advantage. But yes, I also think that being at a time when they need to save themselves may not be a very good explanation for time-travelling.
It's funny how Rim was still so arrogant and stubborn even to himself hahaha. But if Rim "has created the monster that he is today" according to yoyo kid, then the 2 Rim's should've already met before, and the 2020 Rim should've known that his '94 self would kill him. He shouldn' t have gone back. But well, it's destiny XD. And we know there's usually an issue with time travel stories.
That's the same with Gon changing the past as shown by the new recording and "new memories". I don't know if I can accept that easily. But okaaay. They make good dramatic scenes anyway.
That part where Gon was saving his younger self was both exciting and dramatic for me. It must've been hard for him to relive (literally) that traumatic day and see his father again. And awww, Court Lady Noh! I love you even more now.
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uzistar
June 7, 2020 at 7:51 PM
* two Rims
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7 mugyuljoie is preciousss
June 7, 2020 at 7:50 PM
I may be the exception. This episode made more sense to me than most of the other episodes. I almost forgive the earliest episodes now.
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Kairoskat is on LUCY Island 🏝
June 7, 2020 at 7:55 PM
This episode was okay for me too. Some things connected and my theories are somewhat happening eventhough some stuff are still confusing. Haha. Ep 14 was exciting and a lot of things happened in one episode~
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YY Chats with Toast Between Bites
June 7, 2020 at 9:43 PM
This was the best episode for me. Though I was pretty upset @leetennant never showed up. What is this? *shakes fist* I got all excited when he donned that black jacket, but then he turned around, and I almost collapsed. Just rippling back muscles? I started shouting, "WHERE IS LT? WHAT HAVE YOU DONE TO LT?"
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LT is Irresistibly Indifferent and reminded of the slow march of death
June 7, 2020 at 10:32 PM
Every week. Every. Single. Week.
Isn't this show over yet???
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mugyuljoie is preciousss
June 7, 2020 at 10:38 PM
🤣 One more weekend. You have to show yourself during the grand finale.
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mugyuljoie is preciousss
June 7, 2020 at 10:40 PM
I hope LT makes a grand entrance during the next episode. Maybe Gon will peel @leetennant off of his back to take a shower or swim?
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YY Chats with Toast Between Bites
June 7, 2020 at 11:03 PM
LMH peels off that jacket and whatever shirt he's wearing to reveal....*gasping* A TATTOO!!!! and IT IS, IT IS!!!! *SCREAMING* IT'S LT INKED FOR ETERNITY IN LMH'S BACK!!!!
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mugyuljoie is preciousss
June 7, 2020 at 11:22 PM
LT & LG ∞
YY Chats with Toast Between Bites
June 7, 2020 at 11:32 PM
LG🖤LT 4EVA
wapz
June 8, 2020 at 4:38 AM
If that LT he wears is a brand then it could be inside all his jackets too. Ahem we might have been fooled by leetennant because we're only looking for her on his shoulders, not inside her jacket in form of a small tag.
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LT is Irresistibly Indifferent and reminded of the slow march of death
June 8, 2020 at 2:12 PM
Please don't give YY any material that involves me being inside LMH's clothes...
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mugyuljoie is preciousss
June 8, 2020 at 7:11 PM
And yet I almost want to hear @yyishere's fan fiction about this. We've already created tattoos so...
Iamastonished
August 8, 2021 at 11:20 AM
Every K Drama is a fashion show of great winter coats.
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kiara
June 8, 2020 at 8:11 AM
It does as long as you don't ask more questions lol. It'll make you doubt or eventually find more plot holes.
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mugyuljoie is preciousss
June 8, 2020 at 7:05 PM
I checked most of my brain at the door a long time ago.
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nfabjoy
June 9, 2020 at 3:59 PM
I agree with you . This episode made everything fall into place though I still contend that this is a bad show.
The time looping and the eternity angle makes sense now.
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8 FormAnOrderlyQueue
June 7, 2020 at 8:00 PM
Hahahahah! For me, I think I followed the path of all the time travel (although, admittedly, we need to suspend logic a bit), but I was confused by the editing. For example, we got Shin Jae moving Hyun Min with the scars of the gas explosion on his face before the explosion had happened - as I've now got used to picking up on tiny details on screen as being significant, that was confusing. Also, because the explosion happened so quickly, it took me a while to figure out that Tae Eul's bandaged neck and hands were also a product of that. I saw them and instinctively thought, "Whoa, what have I missed?" Just really not helpful when the story's already complex.
I like the idea of new memories. It made sense to me that they would emerge as Gon changed what was happening in the past - for example, when he visited Tae Eul in 2016, that memory would emerge in the equivalent day/month in the 4 month period he was hanging out in the gate. Yes, I think technically, any old memories that no longer happen should disappear, but I'm not sure there would actually be that many to go. However, the voiceover Tae Eul is speaking as a narrator rather than a participant in the story - someone who can see the whole thing. Perhaps not the best judgement to give this voiceover to *her* - why not give it to Yoyo kid?
I think Yoyo kid is indeed the personification of the flute - that would also explain why he/she is so interested in what is going on but also is not particularly doing much to influence where events are heading. In a sense, he/she is a bystander who just wants justice done (to be made whole again) and will befriend whoever he/she deems necessary to further that cause.
Yes, please someone throw light on Lee Rim! If 1994 Rim kills 2020 Rim, isn't that him out of the story? Cos 1994 Rim will continue in a never-ending loop - carrying on his evil deeds till the time in 2020 he goes back and it all starts again. Are we making the assumption that Gon will break that cycle so that 2020 Rim doesn't go back and can carry on past the 2020 moment (or that Gon kills him off at another point before this so that it never happens)?
Loved the visuals of the two gates opening at the same time - this was really well done!
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silverdrafts
June 7, 2020 at 8:55 PM
My understanding about Lee Rim: No, he's not stuck in a loop if 1994!Rim doesn't want to. I mean, 1994!Rim has the knowledge that 2020!Rim goes back in time and is killed by his own hands. So I assume, onwards we have the 1994!Rim wisens up and doesn't do the time-travel back this time and continues his days in 2020 as usual.
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Whatishappening
June 12, 2020 at 11:47 PM
If Rim doesn’t enter the portal to time travel back to 1994, wouldnt Gon be unable to access both time axis of the portal?
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Socially Distant
June 7, 2020 at 11:39 PM
My understanding was, LG and LR have two different "gates" and two different "bamboo forest". This is why TE spent time in the Kingdom with KOC JanMin looking for LR's bamboo forest. Now, it seems that the gates for both LG and LR are in the same place? Or is this a case similar to the library scene where LG and TE seems to face each other, but are actually in two different places, one in KOC and the other in ROK?
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Fly Colours
June 8, 2020 at 12:41 AM
Like the library! They were in different places, Gon in Korea and Rim in Corea when they opened the portals
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nfabjoy
June 9, 2020 at 4:04 PM
If you look at the visuals for the opening - there’s this above so below imagery . The bamboo forests are the same and the inbetween place are the same ; they just mirror each other. Above and below like the opening visual.
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9 korfan
June 7, 2020 at 8:01 PM
So it appears we have two Lee Gons running around. But who knows if it's three. I wouldn't be surprised at this point. Especially since we still don't have an explanation of that video dated 2022 that Gon was watching a few episodes back on Yeong's laptop and how that fits into everything. I'm guessing current Gon couldn't travel to 2022 because we just saw in this episode that he's sort of stuck in time.
And Rim. What can you say about him. Unable to show any courtesy even to himself.
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MeiDramaDreams
June 7, 2020 at 8:32 PM
From what I understand, it’s just one Gon running around the different timelines between the past and present. The current Gon is trying to fix the future, in this case connecting to TE by creating memories in the past.
I’m not expecting that video from 2022 to provide answers. I think some future events may have altered since Gon was running to the past and changing history.
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Yn00na
June 7, 2020 at 9:21 PM
Well, between 1994 and 2020, we basically have the 1994 little Gon growing up and the 2020 time traveller Gon. The two timeline would eventually merge... or at least that's my best guess since i cant claim i understand the writer's (lack of) logic.
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wapz
June 8, 2020 at 4:44 AM
The merging makes the most sense because the Gon in the last scene in this ep isn't the 2020 Gon but then in 2020 we have one Gon. I thought there would be two timelines but seems like those are just memories in the 2020 characters. It would've been way better had they explained how LG and TE already had all that longing and familiarity because they have been once in a time travel situation (referring to ep 1) rather than making new memories.
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Fly Colours
June 8, 2020 at 12:43 AM
I think we'll still watch another loop: there's the video thing, and there's still the fancy jacket/flower scene
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nfabjoy
June 9, 2020 at 4:06 PM
I definitely think there are three Lee Gons and three timelines .
Lee Rim was hilarious ...wow
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10 Lord Cobol (Kdramas, like water, flow downhill)
June 7, 2020 at 8:03 PM
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Yes, @quirkycase. It is indeed a quirky case.
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Yn00na
June 7, 2020 at 9:22 PM
Bow down to @lordcobol. It is indeed a quirky case for @quirkycase 😄
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11 Lord Cobol (Kdramas, like water, flow downhill)
June 7, 2020 at 8:06 PM
If we're lucky, Luna needs a transplant and Rim will be a suitable donor. If we aren't, events in day 16 will leave Tae-eul trapped in Kingdom with amnesia, illness, and criminal tendencies.
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Yn00na
June 7, 2020 at 9:23 PM
No truck of doom?
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12 Lord Cobol (Kdramas, like water, flow downhill)
June 7, 2020 at 8:19 PM
Audience included?
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bbstl 🧹
June 7, 2020 at 9:30 PM
I definitely thought of myself first 🤪
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YY Chats with Toast Between Bites
June 7, 2020 at 10:08 PM
What about Cat? Poor thing probably needs therapy, too.
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Emperor Titus
June 7, 2020 at 10:52 PM
They are well treated by Luna, so they are ok.
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bbstl 🧹
June 8, 2020 at 7:34 AM
😁 all my energy goes to protecting the cat!
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Emperor Titus
June 7, 2020 at 9:34 PM
Me, too.
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13 spicyricecake
June 7, 2020 at 8:23 PM
Wow. Sinjae's mom literally swapped for a healthy doppelganger of his comatose son. WTF
I do have to admit this drama's gotten a little more interesting lately. Hopefully it ends well, but I have a feeling they will leave a lot of questions unanswered.
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Kairoskat is on LUCY Island 🏝
June 7, 2020 at 8:31 PM
I don't think Korea mum knows about the switch. Only Corea mum knows but she gave away her son. As for Korea Shinjae, his dad nows he was swapped, but I'm not sure Korea mum is aware of it.
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Emperor Titus
June 7, 2020 at 8:38 PM
According to what father has said, the Korean Mom doesn't know. Let's leave it there for now.
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Fly Colours
June 8, 2020 at 12:46 AM
Kdrama parents are notoriously awful, but Shinjae Corea Mom and Korea Dad (is he from Korea, though? What about Corea dad?) take the cake. Poor kid!
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14 Lord Cobol (Kdramas, like water, flow downhill)
June 7, 2020 at 8:27 PM
From Wikipedia:
On May 14, the Korea Communications Standards Commission issued an advisory warning against the series for scenes that challenged gender equality after viewers complained that those scenes promote fixed gender stereotypes. The scenes in question featured ... as well as the scene portraying a boat race where a female spectator said, “Men need to wear less and move around lots.”
So, the spectator was a Beanie?
And why pick on this show for THAT after all the gender stereotypes in other shows. Excuse me while I go catch the candy who has tripped and is about to fall.
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Emperor Titus
June 7, 2020 at 8:36 PM
Korea Communications Standards Commission (KCSC) just warned the production crew about that female spectator plot. But in the same announcement, they are going to punish A Couple's World on plot concerning moral issue*. This is not news, actually it was announced last month.
*It's about a scene happened in its Ep.6, where Tae-oh beat Sun-woo in a family violence incident: https://www.hancinema.net/hancinema-s-news-korea-communications-standards-commission-recommends-stricter-editorial-standards-for-television-programming-141380.html
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mugyuljoie is preciousss
June 7, 2020 at 10:59 PM
Beanies have noted a lack of shower scenes in this drama.
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Emperor Titus
June 8, 2020 at 1:51 PM
Yes, that offended me, in terms of smell.
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15 Emperor Titus
June 7, 2020 at 8:28 PM
Time travel is always unscientific. Just like Kim Shin suddenly doesn't need to die in Goblin, now our mighty Kim Eun-seok is using the time travel as, as @quirkycase states in this very recap, a "Deus ex Machina" to try to solve her drama's many logically problem (But Rim ... well, let leave it for the next episode's recap). I predict Kim is not planning to solve the conflict of logic on time travel, so I will just sit back and enjoy the rest of the show.
(About time travel, Vox has a video explain it more logically than Kim Eun-seok, with Game of Thrones season 6 as example. Please take this with SPOILER ALERT in mind: https://youtu.be/a89GNMCJaJU )
I would call my attitude "Don't ask, just watch." Kim Eun-seok is God of Screenwriting, so don't ask, and simply watch the show till it ends ...
I was also said in several occasions that The King has only 4 episodes (1, 14-16) worth watching, with 12 episodes in between as One eternal PPLs magazine. I was in fact reluctant to include Ep.14 as "Worth watching" partly because Luna can roam the earth so freely, after successfully poisoned Gon, then successfully stab Tae-eul, who really should take off her black belt, since she doesn't worth to wear it (How can she not fight off Luna's attack?). With Ep.15 in mind, I finally find that it is on purpose (What purpose, I will talk about it later). It is because this must happen so what will happen in the next episode will happen. It sound so illegal like Kōan, yet it is exactly that: the question and answer between the conversation have no correlation or logic at all, yet it is the path to the enlightenment. I am not so sure what kind of "enlightenment" Kim Eun-seok leads us, but I guess we should just accept it without doubt.
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kiara
June 8, 2020 at 2:40 PM
Now it's my turn to make a wild theory.
I've always felt that Luna doesn't belong in Corea, just like how Tae-eul couldn't find a match for Lee Gon's DNA in Korea because he doesn't exist there.
Luna has no proof of identity even though she has been in jail a couple of times. They just refer to her as Luna, her borrowed name from a street cat.
IIRC Luna's DNA matches Tae-eul's in Corea thanks to Yeong-ah's persistence.
So here is what I'm thinking. Luna either existed in Korea as the real Tae-eul or as Tae-eul's twin.
Maybe Luna has cancer because her mother had cancer and it's the genetic type.
I know it's outrageous with people getting switched and killed but I want to know who the heck she is. She just doesn't exist out of no where. Maybe she is back home where she belongs and that's why Yo Yo boy won't intervene. Things that are already set in motion will happen.
(End of Kiara's wild theory).
Eps 14 Incident between Luna and Tae-eul.
Well if they got into a fight my money would be on Luna. She is bloody scary, the way she beat the living daylights out of that guy who double crossed her was insane for a girl.
Tae-eul and her black belt is no match for Luna.
That evening where TE got stabbed she couldn't see well with the light flickering on and off.
If TE were to move while she is being stabbed it would make the injury worse. She knew that Luna missed injuring her organs on purpose.
So, that is my explanation for why TE didn't fight back and Luna did it as warning. It's her turn now to have a family.
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Emperor Titus
June 8, 2020 at 3:07 PM
I guess Tae-eul is giving Luna a real family (Reason will be talked about on Ep.15 recap)
But I doubt if Tae-eul's vision is that bad. She is not only a black belt, she is also a detective. Although her math is not that good, which she admit (forgotten somewhere in this drama, but I remember) she almost failed the exam because of this; but I believe her physicality would be good to be a detective.
About Luna, I think we are in the same wavelength that at least she doesn't belong to the Empire. We can wait and see if she came from the Republic, however, which is also probable.
However, I am pretty sure if they were switched, this is not the work of Rim (He said Tae-eul "is a chess piece I didn't move", means he was surprised to see her on the game board). So, let's wait and see ...
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kiara
June 9, 2020 at 4:12 PM
I'd like to think that Luna has a place in this world and her own identity so I hope it will be made clear.
Tae-eul has both worlds. I'm with Luna when she said that it's unfair.
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16 silverdrafts
June 7, 2020 at 8:28 PM
Am I the only one that think Ep 14 is such a mess? It’s rushed, and with only two episodes left in the drama, we the viewers still don’t have clear grasps on how the flute and the in-between world works, really. The time-travelling part has been teased since Ep 1, yet just shown in this episode. I think it's much better if it’s surfaced way earlier on the story.
But anyway, there are some stuff that doesn’t sit right with me (just for the 14th Ep only):
• The whole “Tae-eul gets stabbed” stuff. She’s a freaking Lieutenant and a badass, people! And Luna is the girl who just poisons her freaking boyfriend and threatens to kill her. Tae-eul’s aware that Luna is highly dangerous, and yet she still lets her guard down? Doesn’t make any sense. And on that trail of thought-
• Where are the Unbreakable Swords??? Both Yeong and Eun-seob know that Luna is roaming around, Eun-seob even tailing her at one point. Remember, that girl just poisons his King, Yeong knows damn well how a huge threat she is and to make it worse, Gon explicitly tells Yeong to go protect Tae-eul. But, no, when Tae-eul gets stabbed, both are conspicuously absent. I mean, what are the use of Yeong as the protector, then??? Jo Yeong and Jo Eun-seob, you guys HAVE ONE JOB. Such a disappointment of characters use.
• I have a feeling that it’s an excuse to bring more angst for the couple, more than anything. But I’d rather have Tae-eul displaying her badassery and maybe teaming up with Yeong/Eun-seob but they’re still outnumbered/something, rather than this. There are other ways to produce that outcome.
• Where are the teamwork, people??? As members of the law enforcement and Royal Guards, you guys should know better than this. More on this on Ep 15, but up to Ep 14, it's still suboptimal.
• And, bravo, Gon is just being poisoned, yet soon after, he’s running around and shooting people left and right, plus keeping his brain working perfectly. True, Luna says herself that she doesn’t want to kill Gon, she just wants to take his whip, but the poison is potent enough to incapacitate Gon, so I’d appreciate it if he’s still feeling the effects, it leads to the realism.
• They never explains how he can survive for four months inside the in-between with no money and no resources. The guy gotta eat and sleep and most importantly, shower. Of course, he’s smart, but it is illogical to keep wearing the exact same outfit, esp for hygiene reasons. I can accept this trivial loop hole, but, Gon, dear, please shower and burn the clothes afterwards, ok?
• Seo-ryung is smart, she’s the only one who thinks of using safe code at this point, and I was intrigued that she wants the flute for herself. She has the potential to be such an interesting foe, I’m so sad for her character because she is so underused. Can you imagine her teaming with Rim? Ah the wasted potentials!
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Lord Cobol (Kdramas, like water, flow downhill)
June 7, 2020 at 8:46 PM
If Rim didn't age when he was lurking for years in in-between-land, I guess Gon won't get hungry or smelly there.
And it's a good place to quarantine for 4 months :)
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Emperor Titus
June 7, 2020 at 8:57 PM
Now I want to go to that place.
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silverdrafts
June 7, 2020 at 9:07 PM
But food is one of life's joys!
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Emperor Titus
June 7, 2020 at 9:15 PM
I know, @silverdrafts, but "not smelly" is the key here.
mugyuljoie is preciousss
June 8, 2020 at 7:25 PM
I'd happily hang out there with Eun Seob or Yeong.
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silverdrafts
June 7, 2020 at 9:06 PM
LoL, I think you're right, but still, I'd appreciate some confirmation from the writer. Just a throwaway one line joke will do. I just feel like there are still too many guesswork about that place.
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Emperor Titus
June 7, 2020 at 9:12 PM
Certainly she is going to be very rush. I guess Kim eun-seok really hope that she can have that Manpashikjeok right now: "It then has the handy function of taking you to the exact moment in time in which you hope to save yourself."
I guess she really want to go back to re-write the story.
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Yn00na
June 7, 2020 at 10:17 PM
I feel we all could benefit from Manpashikjeok to save us from this drama 🤪
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Emperor Titus
June 7, 2020 at 10:24 PM
I guess we won't have enough Manpashikjeok for us to go back, sadly, think about we all live in different countries (Airmail me one to Canada, for instant, I give you my address later)
Kim has one is enough, she need to go back to rewrite the story, and hire Lee Eung-bok as the director as well. The current 3 directors are all disqualified. I guess PD Lee doesn't only direct her drama (who capable to deal with big world(s)), he may have correct those illogical elements in the script for her.
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mugyuljoie is preciousss
June 7, 2020 at 11:00 PM
The lack of after effects of the poison was one of the times I laughed during this episode.
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silverdrafts
June 8, 2020 at 12:26 AM
Giggling. Haha, can save all of the dramatics if Luna just knocks Gon unconscious the minute he opens the door, eh? And she's not even factoring Yeong into her equation. Too sloppy for such a big job (stealing the flute).
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Fly Colours
June 8, 2020 at 12:49 AM
Luna is such an ineffective murderer that it left me wondering if she was doing it on purpose 😂
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WishfulToki
June 8, 2020 at 5:28 AM
Pssst @flyingcolours... I remember when Luna was preparing for her impersonation the camera zoomed in on a scar on her right side I think. Or was it shoulder? Anyway, I'm still with you that Luna might be Tae-eul from the future, with amnesia, terminal illness and a bad wig. If they have the same scar that might.mean.something. Who knows.
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nfabjoy
June 9, 2020 at 4:15 PM
Woah !! That’s wild .
But it would make sense as she is super undocumented in KOC
Fly Colours
June 8, 2020 at 12:55 AM
Had the same thought about Eunseob/Yeong helping Taeeul. They did such a lousy job and suddenly Eunseob had a sharp look after his call to TE, so Ingor super paranoid about Yeong being a traitor, letting Luna in to attack Gon, and impersonating ES once again just to help Luna get to TE... That would have made an interesting twist!
But no, now I just think all characters are all over the place. It feels as if Writer-nim realized she was getting how out time and just decided: "ok, no more personalities, let's just get this plot moving!"
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Fly Colours
June 8, 2020 at 12:56 AM
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Fly Colours
June 8, 2020 at 12:57 AM
I got!!! 😂😂😂
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silverdrafts
June 8, 2020 at 1:39 AM
Haha we desperately need that 'Edit' feature, eh?
Yeah, Yeong secretly evil will explain it, but if that happens, I'd be angry for a very different reason (namely character butchery).
Agree, this drama needs much improvement on pace, among other things.
Emperor Titus
June 8, 2020 at 8:47 PM
About that "edit" feature, I guess one of Netflix show under the series Black Mirror allows you to choose the next plot.
I hope they put that feature on The King as well.
17 Kaleidoscopic
June 7, 2020 at 8:38 PM
Why did the show make Gon meet 5 year old Tae-eul? I mean, I know why. Romance and all. But WHY, when he could have instead met 5 year old Luna and rescued her from whatever horrible conditions she must have been living in so that she grows up not as damaged. Instead of helping Tae-eul pick up her damn belt. I know kids need help for most things but I am pretty sure they can manage that on their own.
Ok. My hope for the ending - Gon manages to save himself, kill Rim, and save his doppelganger family. He saves kid Luna by getting her a good family or orphanage who will love and take care of her. The portal closes down. Tae-eul meets a Gon's doppelganger and they fall for each other. Meanwhile, Gon meets a now decent Luna (who is maybe a part of his royal guard) and they fall in love. The Happy End.
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uzistar
June 7, 2020 at 9:05 PM
Aww, I agree with saving young Luna.. I know that he wanted things to happen the way they did and Luna is an essential part of it, but I would've loved it if that poor kid was loved and taken care of. And Gon could've been the rabbit hihi.
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mugyuljoie is preciousss
June 7, 2020 at 11:02 PM
Never let the ship sink! Good save.
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Kaleidoscopic
June 8, 2020 at 1:14 AM
😒 I saw you thinking of abandoning ship for LunaxYeong 😒 You Cheater McCheaterson
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mugyuljoie is preciousss
June 8, 2020 at 1:47 AM
I was only tempted for a second.
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wapz
June 8, 2020 at 4:53 AM
I cringe when in time travels adults meet the child version of the person they love in the present. It's just weird and creepy. SD1D and TKEM did the same thing and no, it's not good.
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MeiDramaDreams
June 8, 2020 at 5:15 AM
Maybe it’s just me but I didn’t see that scene as creepy. I did wonder about him wearing the same clothes and how that would be sanitary. It was about 4 months he was in the In-Between place.
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MeiDramaDreams
June 8, 2020 at 5:21 AM
That scene also made me think of being in a similar situation and I could see a loved one again. So I guess I was more sentimental about it.
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Kaleidoscopic
June 8, 2020 at 5:31 AM
Aww
Kaleidoscopic
June 8, 2020 at 5:30 AM
HAHA MTE about the cleanliness issue. That's what I kept thinking about as well. But I guess the nature of the portal made it such that he could go without showers and food? We will just never know...(not that I need to know either, tyvm)
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MeiDramaDreams
June 8, 2020 at 9:08 AM
Haha I suppose that would be the simplest explanation.. “the nature of the portal” should be the answer any practical questions.
Kaleidoscopic
June 8, 2020 at 5:26 AM
You took words out of my mouth, cause I am with you on that. It icks me out as well. It's not even me being too logical. I just viscerally cannot. I don't mind if it's to save their significant other from horrific events or something. But under this purely romantic connotation? Nuh uh. He does seem to meet kid Tae-eul right after her mother's death so I guess they were angling for that still....but they should have shown that! They should have shown her being absolutely broken and him comforting her. Then it would have worked without coming off as creepy (and would have justified Tae-eul remembering this random, albeit hot, dude from her childhood who she exchanged two insignificant sentences with, and then also hugging said person as a grown up based on that interaction. But I will stop. It's not like the show is particularly keen on justifying stuff in the first place, like why Gon would have been so in love with her when he knew she wasn't the one who saved him. OK I am not ranting about this again). But they didn't. They just sped through it. Sigh.
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wapz
June 8, 2020 at 6:11 AM
This! I think they should've worked on establishing the past memories of the events that have already happened. I totally thought they'll give explanations on how LG loved TE forever and TE came to like him quick too and that wipl be because of this time travel because they've met several times. Instead they made a new story out of it, which well was a little creepy and unnecessary and brings out more questions than answers.
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MeiDramaDreams
June 8, 2020 at 9:22 AM
“He does seem to meet Tae Eul right after her mother’s death....” see that was how I perceived the scene too when he saw the white ribbon on her hair. And as he explained to the woman who approached them, he was an acquaintance of the deceased. I think it was a timely coincidence he turned up in that year when his younger ROK self was just murdered at the same time that TE was going through a personal tragedy. All I saw was the desperation he went through running across timelines, not knowing where exactly he would turn up or if he would ever accomplish what he set out to do. And seeing a young TE must’ve given him the strength to move forward. Anyway, I’m not sure I’m explaining this coherently but it just didn’t come across as *that* way to me at all.
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Rebecca Smith
June 8, 2020 at 9:33 PM
I would of thought the same ,except LMH did a very good job in that scene.He managed to to convey it into a sweet scene,for me at least.I saw some leaked BTS photos before ep 14 aired and I knew that scene is coming.I was honestly worried for the cringey vibes it would give.But I give it a big thumbs up
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Kaleidoscopic
June 9, 2020 at 12:21 AM
I mean. Lee Min Ho/Lee Gon is a sweetheart in general 💕💕💕💕 *fangirls* *swoons*
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Emperor Titus
June 8, 2020 at 2:01 PM
What if I tell you the ending will be Gon and Tae-eul going back to 1945 and being Emperor Haejong and Empress Tae-eul, and save Lady Noh themselves in 1950, @christina41218?
Go down to Comment #19, I laid out a theory in one of those replies underneath.
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Kaleidoscopic
June 9, 2020 at 1:13 AM
Yeah I have seen that theory on twitter after the fan taken shoot pics were released, but I hope not. Cause 1) MY SHIP 2) That brings up some questions about...parentage that tie in with the next ep so I will refrain from talking about it here.
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nfabjoy
June 9, 2020 at 4:20 PM
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18 parkchuna adores YoungWon couples Forever 🍉
June 7, 2020 at 8:46 PM
I’m just wondering how is Corea now that their King is missing?
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Lord Cobol (Kdramas, like water, flow downhill)
June 7, 2020 at 9:03 PM
Idunno, but the idea of a missing ruler does have some attraction.
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mugyuljoie is preciousss
June 7, 2020 at 11:03 PM
It sure does.
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kiara
June 7, 2020 at 10:09 PM
Same excuse as before. He is stuck in his study trying to solve math problems or he is out of the country with Yeong-ah.
Seo-ryung's replacement must love being in charged as the new Prime Minister.
Four months? I dunno. I feel for poor Lady Noh's head and heart.
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parkchuna adores YoungWon couples Forever 🍉
June 7, 2020 at 10:17 PM
The poor lady could die from anxiety 😢
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Fly Colours
June 8, 2020 at 1:03 AM
Seemed to work well for Belgium! https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/without-a-government-for-a-year-belgium-shows-what-happens-to-politics-without-politicians/2019/12/19/5c13cb48-20de-11ea-b034-de7dc2b5199b_story.html
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parkchuna adores YoungWon couples Forever 🍉
June 8, 2020 at 1:16 AM
interesting read, thanks! Corea still has a government, I was just wondering if the people weren't curious their king suddenly dissappeared..but now i know what excuse they used and no chaos..mehh
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saturtledaisy
June 8, 2020 at 8:26 PM
i hate to inform you that nothing ever works well in belgium
on the bright side... they can do s l i g h t l y less damage?
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19 lemoncello
June 7, 2020 at 8:46 PM
I have a question: even before Gon's father had died, Prince Buyeong barely came to Corea, as well as his family. He resided back in Corea after Gon's father died, and he became the guardian of Gon.
Similar with Prince Buyeong's son... After the funeral of this father, he asked Gon to make him the head of the kingdom's foundation and became the next heir. But Gon insisted that the next line is Sejin, Prince Buyeong's grandchild (not sure whether Sejin is a man or a woman), not Prince Buyeong's son.... What really happened between Gon and the son? Gon only realized that the son was helping Rim all along...
Only this thing was unclear to....
Anyone knows why this happened?
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Emperor Titus
June 7, 2020 at 9:03 PM
I guess Prince Boyeong told him not to (which we will never know, because I don't think the show will show us), as the fleshback states right after Boyeong died (he talked to his son on the phone). Certainly after he knows Prince Boyeong's son helps the traitors (Rim and his gang), he is not allow to be heir even more.
And I guess we all know Sejin is a female (that shows in Boyeong's family photos, as shown on his desk).
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kiara
June 7, 2020 at 9:32 PM
According to Seo-ryung (eps 4)
"I'm just curious, you were born as the son of the king, but 4 generations of your family can't be in politics nor hold important posts. You can only be a scholar.
Your children and grandchildren must live abroad. Are you ok with such a life?"
Prince Buyeong was allowed to live and work in Corea but his children and grandchildren had to live overseas. They were allowed to visit during special occasions like Lee Gon's coronation and royal funerals etc.
I believe Prince buyeong was out of the country on a business trip when Lee Gon's father died. China maybe? I forgot.
Prince Buyeong's eldest son is Lee Seung-heon who would have been next in line to the throne after his father but Buyeong did not approve of him for obvious reasons. He favored his grand-daughter Se-jin and Lee Gon agreed that she would be the next heir.
Lee Gon trusted his uncle's judgement. He knew his son better and Lee Gon realized that after uncle Buyeong's funeral.
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Emperor Titus
June 7, 2020 at 9:40 PM
Thanks for your nice explanation, you definitely doing this better than me, @kiara.
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kiara
June 7, 2020 at 10:07 PM
I don't know @imperialtitus. I'm trying not to mix them up with the Joseon royals lol.
The king and the crown prince's brothers were not exiled out of the country but just out of the capital.
Joseon was more like a hermit country so I see why they weren't send overseas.
Jeju was the exile island back then but they didn't commit a crime.
Sending the king's relatives to Jeju today would be a vacation lol.
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Emperor Titus
June 7, 2020 at 10:18 PM
I am not that sure, @kiara, because Prince Buyeong's son talked about San Francisco. I guess Buyeong was there when Gon was not on the throne, too.
kiara
June 7, 2020 at 10:44 PM
I was talking about Joseon laws on the king's relatives compared to 2020.
I think Seung-heon said something about selling his home in LA?
Emperor Titus
June 7, 2020 at 10:49 PM
"I think Seung-heon said something about selling his home in LA?"
Yes, @kiara, that's why I am thinking they are not only being exiled outside of capital(s) (Pyongyang is Corea's Economic Capital), but outside of the country.
(I have to re-watch to make sure their house is in LA or in SF though, I just rely on my memory)
kiara
June 7, 2020 at 11:46 PM
@imperialtitus
Yes, Buyeong's children and grandchildren had to live abroad, (overseas) in a different country.
If this was Joseon they would not have been required to live outside of the country.
BlueCouchPotato
June 7, 2020 at 9:44 PM
@kiara During the funeral of Emperor Lee Ho, Prince Buyeong arrived by plane. As I recall he lives in the Northern Region, presumably Pyongyang.
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kiara
June 7, 2020 at 9:51 PM
Right, the China trip was after the funeral.
Thanks for the correction.
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Emperor Titus
June 7, 2020 at 9:58 PM
I have another wild theory, by the way, @kiara (and @wishfultoki, I don't think you want to miss this) ...
This is their group photo after they finished the last scene, shot in last week: https://hk.on.cc/hk/bkn/cnt/entertainment/20200607/photo/bkn-20200607113025174-0607_00862_001_04b.jpg?20200607115344
It is shot in the City of Nonsan, where the movie shooting location park locate (built like a 1950's Seoul.
It is also where Mr. Sunshine was shot, as they built the whole scene of 1905 Seoul there).
If my observation is right, their last scene will be going back to 1945, as Gon and Tae-eul go together with the power of Manpashikjeok, save Lady Noh from the Korean War, and Gon became Haejong in the Empire of Corea, initiate the reform of the country to become a constitutional monarchy, and rule the Empire forever, as Tae-eul as his queen, thus the title, "Eternal Monarch".
What a happy ending.
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Emperor Titus
June 7, 2020 at 10:00 PM
So Gon will be the son of himself and Tae-eul.
That's why the theory is so wild ...
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kiara
June 9, 2020 at 6:16 PM
Interesting theory @imperialtitus. A Back to the future story.
While we are hot on time travelling why not?
Would this be the most reasonable happy ending to you?
I wouldn't be surprised if the present time for the whole drama is in the late 1930s-1940s and the future is where we are right now.
Going back to Emperor Haejong, the Korean war and the new Constitutional government would make sense.
Good theory partner in crime :).
kiara
June 7, 2020 at 11:53 PM
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kiara
June 8, 2020 at 12:48 PM
@imperialtitus
Can you tell the name of the movies that are shown at the theater?
I'll need to think for a bit on that wild theory of yours :).
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Kairoskat is on LUCY Island 🏝
June 8, 2020 at 1:19 PM
@kiara the movie at the theater is Le Recif De Corail...it's a 1930s movie. But I guess their outfits is already a giveaway that they are in 1930-1940. Ahahah
The movie description (from wiki): It tells the story of a charged innocent Mexican sailor who escapes to a lagoon in the Pacific Ocean. He meets with a lonely girl in the woods, having an affair. However his current gunrunning operation is noticed by an earnest detective.
Emperor Titus
June 8, 2020 at 1:34 PM
1939, to be exact, @kiara (cc: @katakwasabi).
This is a fully restored version on YouTube: https://youtu.be/MR3YvXJ7JAo
If you doesn't have time, this is a snippet: https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x4mvafa
kiara
June 8, 2020 at 2:49 PM
@katakwasabi, @imperialtitus
Thank you, I can read that one but is there 2 movies or the one on the right is just an add?
Emperor Titus
June 8, 2020 at 3:16 PM
Yes, same movie.
The sypnosis of the Chinese/Korean seems is the same movie, and the Korean name spelling at the bottom bar are Michèle Morgan (미시앨.몰캉) and Jean Gabin (쨘.갸반) respectively, who are the actress and actors of the same movie
kiara
June 8, 2020 at 8:13 PM
Thank you @imperialtitus!
Emperor Titus
June 8, 2020 at 2:30 PM
Sorry, is grandson.
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Rebecca Smith
June 8, 2020 at 9:51 PM
I saw these photos before but my theory is a little different.I don't think Gon will rule as king in the past but rather do what TE said .She admitted they skipped a lot of the random things couples usually do,like going on dates,go to movies,go to beautiful places.And she asks Gon to do that someday.They probably travel back in time to do just that.
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mychoiyoung
June 10, 2020 at 10:38 AM
What happens to Lee Ho? And are you saying King Haejong is reborn as Lee Gon?
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20 BlueCouchPotato
June 7, 2020 at 9:11 PM
Thanks for the recap @quirkycase!
This is the episode where I will bang my head on the nearest hard surface and repeatedly grunt, "That's it??" @wishfultoki imma need that headbang pillow 😂. Seems for the sake of a belated attempt to simplify the storyline and the convoluted concepts of time-travel and quantum theories, the show sent it all down the drain and replaced it with memory modification/ supplantation reminiscent of the movie Dark City. It does make for a bittersweet connection between Gon and Tae-eul, but since we are now being rushed through four months' worth of Gon's efforts, we barely feel his desperation nor the danger of the exponentially increasing time stops. In fact, this danger appears nullified as Gon's repeated crossings don't seem to have any repercussions on him or on the parallel worlds.
Even worse, Rim's danger as a villain is pathetically reduced, as the evil killer with supposedly has 25 years of advantage over Gon and even himself has been killed off so unceremoniously. If he was able to go back to the night of the treason, why didn't *he* go and kill off the Crown Prince himself? And what has he been doing while Gon is going through that back and forth? Reading the newspaper? Singin' in the rain? So what is PM Koo's role in the villainous scheme of things now? *sigh*
All that said, I'm doing the cake dance (quietly, of course) that Eun-seob is still actively involved (heh, I *knew* he got that Iron Man mask). I'm just wondering where he was when Luna stabbed Tae-eul. And poor Yeong having to live down that one of the very things that he had been working all his life to avoid happening to Gon actually happens the moment he let his guard down. Thankfully, he had the sense to call the right person with the right connections!
Again, call me a sentimental sap, but my sympathies remain with Luna. That scene where she laughed was probably for the first time in a very long while. I really wished her character was more threshed out, because she may have actually gotten along well with Tae-eul and we would have a sisterhood to go along with our bromances.
*more sighs* As much as I liked the pacing and editing this time (heck, my brain hurts from the whiplash), seems that everything is now happening too fast and any branch stories being clipped off.
#zerobraincells, #epoxyforthesoul
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WishfulToki
June 7, 2020 at 9:37 PM
@bluecouchpotato Fortunately I made several headbangers for these final episodes. Maybe I will sell them. You will get one for free of course, as my first client.
#loansharksgottalive
Too many bizarre decisions this episode. To mention one: I thought that Prime Minister might counterattack by telling all of Corea that Gon's future queen is the criminal Luna. You know, drag him down as well. But instead she... is going after the flute? *scratches head*
After all the build-up, the show finally addressed the time-travel and it made ZERO sense to me. The show failed to make it clear for me, and I don't really care to have it explained by viewers and theories. I know I'm not stupid. So I'm gonna bang my head and peace out for this recap.
Ah yes, I should write that CS Lewis essay for @noone. At least world-hopping makes sense there.
#zerobraincells
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BlueCouchPotato
June 7, 2020 at 10:09 PM
@wishfultoki Why thank you! I'll work on a snazzy PPL as barter. Maybe we'll get a sponsor for manicures and shampoo to counteract all the headscratching and hair-pulling.
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Emperor Titus
June 7, 2020 at 10:13 PM
For world hopping, @wishfultoki and @noone, try Philip Pullman's His Dark Materials Trilogy, it is way better (and it involves more than 2 worlds, in Book 3) (and the novels, not the movie).
For Time travel, try this video, it explain way better (You probably need to watch Game of Thrones Season 6 first): https://youtu.be/a89GNMCJaJU
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BlueCouchPotato
June 7, 2020 at 10:30 PM
I was thinking of the Dark Materials trilogy too, but the memory modification reminded me more of Dark City.
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LT is Irresistibly Indifferent and reminded of the slow march of death
June 7, 2020 at 10:33 PM
Such an amazing film. Still one of my all-time favourites.
Ruckus Likes Drama
June 8, 2020 at 5:26 AM
I read dark materials trilogy as a kid and I can’t remember much. I should go back to it. I have got so many nice recommendations because of this series :D
-il mare the film
-the lake house
-rereading Potter and appreciating Rowling all over again :D
- dark city ( thank you @bluecouchpotato — never heard or seen it)
- 12 monkeys
- La jette
- the canons by mao’s wife :D
— 10 commandments by Kryloski (sorry for not spelling him correctly)
-Padam Padam the series(?)
I don’t think am picking GoT though!
I do want to check coin locker girl and the sword or whatever that action film with the female lead is.
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wapz
June 8, 2020 at 6:17 AM
Thanks for this list. I'm clearly more interested in all these films due to TKEM.
WishfulToki
June 8, 2020 at 6:40 AM
Memories of the Sword. Be prepared for tragic stuff. The sword-fights were good though. And Kim Go-eun with Junho <3
Ruckus Likes Drama
June 8, 2020 at 2:39 PM
@wapzy I heard that somewhere the writer said that she paid tribute to Padam Padam. Interestingly she pays tribute to many movies, series and classics.
@iamastonished I think mentioned the red umbrella as another reference and recently she/he reminded me Pamuk’s museum of innocence Through a mention of a museum of dreams :)
@wishfultoki though tragic but you liked it? The coin locker girl has Bo Gum and I love his smile... I also love tough girls... And isn’t the hyena lead also in it? in another lifetime I will be Definitely learn fencing and some fancy form of self defense.
WishfulToki
June 8, 2020 at 5:38 PM
@noone I can't say I liked MEMORIES OF THE SWORD very much, but the action scenes are really good. Apart from Kim Go-eun, the leads are Lee Byung-hun (Mr Sunshine) and Jeon Do-yeon, whom I've never seen before because she does mostly films.
Out of the few Korean movies I've seen, my favorites are still ADMIRAL: ROARING CURRENTS and WAR OF THE ARROWS. Highly recommend both. Oh yes, and THE PIRATES for swashbuckling Kim Nam-gil and Son Ye-jin. Enjoy!
Emperor Titus
June 8, 2020 at 8:39 PM
To @wishfultoki (cc @noone), Lee Byung-hun and Jeon Do-yeon just happened to be the winner of 56th (2020) Baeksang Arts Awards' best actor and actress in the movie section respectively, Lee won with The Man Standing Next as Kim Jae-gyu, who assassination then South Korean President Park Chung-hee, and Jeon won with Birthday as Soon-nam, a mother lost a son in the MV Sewol ferry sinking, one of the most terrible civil transportation disaster in the country's history.
Ruckus Likes Drama
June 9, 2020 at 7:12 AM
@wishfultoki noted :)
Have you seen Malmoee? Am tempted as I really liked the actor in Chocolate. Lord my list of dramas and films from Korea+Japan is becoming unmanageable :D
But yay... keep them coming. One day will see them all.
nfabjoy
June 9, 2020 at 4:28 PM
Someday One Day was also recommend to me because TKEM
Ruckus Likes Drama
June 9, 2020 at 1:22 PM
And the list became longer. Noted. As Amat sea so the sea accident film is of special interest @imperialtitus :)
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mugyuljoie is preciousss
June 7, 2020 at 11:09 PM
I'm hoping for infinite time loops and parallel worlds so that I know Luna and Gon are living happily ever after in one of them. @christina41218
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Kaleidoscopic
June 8, 2020 at 1:18 AM
Idk. My trust in your loyalty is on shaky grounds right now 😤
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mugyuljoie is preciousss
June 8, 2020 at 1:46 AM
I'm still loyal, I swear.
Ruckus Likes Drama
June 8, 2020 at 5:36 AM
Awww my darling @wishfultoki
Just get it out of your system, once you have said your fill you will feel better and Then can just shake your head (as though pitying the creators) for wasting the potential.
They just spread themselves too thin.
Like someone said above/below (still need to read all the comments here) with regard to time travel —
FINALLY!
But I think it comes too late in the day. Also the characters don’t contribute towards a complete story. So many wasted characters and character arcs.
However, suspend belief and just watch. Some scenes are cute on their own. After all my excitement for episode 14, I watched episode 15 in chopped pieces while reading different theories and I love how people interpret everything.
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Ruckus Likes Drama
June 8, 2020 at 5:43 AM
And yes... lewis Carroll essay please :)
Put it up on your wall and tag me. I am up for fun stuff.
And share all the scenarios that come to mind, if you have the time. Who knows we might write a story “inspired” by the King for one of the online become an author forums and make money :D
Anything is possible... yoyo child might step in for us??
Haha!
I was going to say something but I forgot... this series has exhausted me and made good for no economic activity. I am glad that I don’t care what the end is but I have to see the end because it will be a HAPPY END.
SJ And JY might not live But who knows... if we can change the past then... yo yo child will help us after all we, the good characters, in this drama are sacrificial lambs!
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Ruckus Likes Drama
June 8, 2020 at 5:48 AM
And I am laughing at my own crazy jokes!
Please understand that I am under the King’s production team’s influence :D
And I am ready to be not okay Till 20th June cures me and ensure that I am okay. (Yup, am looking forward to the TVn drama :D )
Drama Gods please please give me an awesome drama. I want magic and fun.
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Emperor Titus
June 8, 2020 at 9:36 PM
If you didn't, @noone, watch My Ajusshi again, since it will go up first time on Netflix in June 10. You can also try It's Okay to not be Okay, the Kim Soo-hyun* come out drama since he ends his military service, in June 20. If you want to be reminded Kim Eun-seok's heyday on Screenwriting, try Mr. Sunshine, I can say this is her only masterpiece in recent years.
For now he only has 2 cameos since he came out of military, in Hotel del Luna and Crash Landing on You.
Ruckus Likes Drama
June 9, 2020 at 1:29 PM
@imperialtitus I was referring to Its okay to not be okay in the comment above :)
So yes, I will work hard and then start watching the series once it is 6 episodes down. And yup... will not read any reviews/recaps in the meanwhile :D
Mr Sunshine is one that I plan to binge watch. But right now it is not the right time. Same for my Ajusshi. Everyone here swears by My Ajusshi so it has been on my list. I do think IU is awesome :)
I just hope IOTNBO is awesome. I want a nice series.
Btw I realized that someone had spoken of HI Bye Mama director introducing characters but not always utilizing them fully and the characters disappearing without a proper arc. So I was wondering in King is the issue with the director or writer as I see similar issues here.
Yn00na
June 7, 2020 at 9:41 PM
Even better editing can not salvage the ever mounting plot holes.
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BlueCouchPotato
June 7, 2020 at 10:03 PM
Fate/Yoyo Kid will show up again and patch everything up.
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kiara
June 8, 2020 at 8:33 PM
Exactly.
This would have been better for a fall show and it would have given them more time.
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silverdrafts
June 8, 2020 at 1:45 AM
I'm not sure I sympathize with Luna just yet (her pain in the car is heartbreaking, but apart from that). But I do think she's an intriguing character, still a bit of a wild card, I wonder what's really inside that head of hers.
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21 YY Chats with Toast Between Bites
June 7, 2020 at 9:33 PM
I rolled my eyes so hard at the beginning of the episode that I saw Future Uncle dying with a slash wound administered by Past Uncle through a haze. That had to be the most ridiculous scene ever. After my eyeballs had settled back in my eye sockets, I heard this voice talking in my head. I thought it was Tae eul's voiceover, but then I realised this voice was gruffer and raspier. Yep, it was me muttering to myself, "What was the point of watching all THAT then? What was the point of Future Uncle when all it took was a stroke and a second to wipe him off? I started breathing really, really hard then.
The scenes changed to Shin jae and Yeung and I watched them mindlessly, in between admiring WDH's lips. This guy makes that little crease between the brows so sexy, and don't even get me started on his lips...
And then the story suddenly became Lee Gon's getting stuck in 1994, and something happened to me.
I loved it. So. Much.
It was heartbreaking.
I was trying so hard to hold back my tears.
There was a moment which was hard though. When he met the five-year-old Tae eul. He looked at her with tenderness, and said, "I'm trying to find my way back to you." That line broke me. But at the same time my brain was saying, "Yikes. This is so pedophilelish. Ew." When he touched her head softly, I cringed, and felt so sad at the same time. Weird, right?
This was the best episode for me. The scribble he left on the phone box was so heartwrenching. And the new memories flooding in were unbearably sad.
When the episode ended, my eyes were wet.
And all the dumbness was erased, just like that.
Hey, that rhymes.
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Emperor Titus
June 7, 2020 at 9:37 PM
Thanks for your toast talk this week. Hats off to you.
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BlueCouchPotato
June 7, 2020 at 10:00 PM
I'm probably weirder that I'm more immersed in Yeong's expressions than the unfolding saga of Lake House in a Phone Booth 😅
And what's with the lack of cash anyways? He didn't bother to ask Yeong to give him some knowing he'd be gone for four months?
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YY Chats with Toast Between Bites
June 7, 2020 at 10:17 PM
Imagine this.
Lee Gon wandering in twenty year old underwear, UNWASHED, grimy and stinky. If he had donned briefs, they'd probably look like thongs now.
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Emperor Titus
June 7, 2020 at 11:15 PM
Hey, it will not be Kim Eun-seok's love story she always tell, but a scary movie, @yyishere ...
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Yn00na
June 8, 2020 at 12:13 AM
Ok, I know I'm supposed to be gross of LG's 20yo undie, but shamefully the perverted me would probably take and keep it (and first washing it ofcouse).
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Yn00na
June 8, 2020 at 12:14 AM
I mean, it most likely made of gold threads...
KDramzFan
June 8, 2020 at 6:57 AM
This comment is everything. I am on the personal hygiene bandwagon.
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Ruckus Likes Drama
June 8, 2020 at 5:57 AM
Ok to give it to him, I don’t think he knew he won’t be able to travel back and will be stuck for sometime.
I feel that he was impulsive: he heard the flute, he knew he had to save himself, the creators keep it vague with regard to how many times has he gone back and I think even he doesn’t know or take time travel as a loop. He was poisoned so... his brain is addled!
He runs into the portal and does heroic deeds and then rushes out of the palace hoping to catch LR... yet he comes out on his side Of the portal and sees no LR and has no idea about the year. Suddenly his brain 💡 and he like shucks am here in 1994... he tests by going back in and out but nope... he is still in 1994 so...
Yup I kept wondering did he get any sleep as he had to keep counting. How did he eat or does one not need food in the screensaver place!
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mugyuljoie is preciousss
June 7, 2020 at 11:16 PM
I had more of a visceral reaction to him patting her head and wanted the mom to call the police.
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wapz
June 8, 2020 at 5:07 AM
The adult time traveling to meet the child version is yuck. Won't approve of thay ever.
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Ruckus Likes Drama
June 8, 2020 at 6:10 AM
I feel for you!
It has the right elements to make one feel rather than think :D
Two things that I will add—
LR killing his future self was according to me WTF moment.
And it was genius writing.
So apt for an arrogant evil man who considers women and children as superfluous to not believe his own self that a mere 8 year old can foil his plans. His future self did not even think that his past self could be so greedy, suspicious of his own self and pay no heed to anyone in case someone reaped the benefits of what he was planning.
This sequence made me wish— if only the series had concentrated and done more character building. I for one also felt that the evil uncle was not that great at playing evil. There are some places where is scary but he is too much of a model while this role needed a real awesome method actor.
Point 2– when LG tells the little JTE “you really are five” makes me realize that a part of his brain never processed that she was anything but the 30 year old that he had seen in an Id growing up and then in person since 2019.
That dialogue made me realize that the person who wrote that was a keen observer of humans. Thus, I don’t even let the part of my brain that thinks about weird stuff wake up.
I actually liked this episode. If I forget that it is a part of a series then what’s there to not like about it. Actors acted well and action was happening :) I could feel something.
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BlueCouchPotato
June 8, 2020 at 7:59 AM
@noone My issue with 2020!Lee Rim was that he didn't go and fo the job himself. Gon is running around implanting memories and leaving love notes in an attempt to change history, but Rim doesn't do the *very thing* that actually will.
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Ruckus Likes Drama
June 8, 2020 at 2:31 PM
@bluecouchpotato please explain some more. I did not understand :(
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BlueCouchPotato
June 8, 2020 at 3:07 PM
@noone Lee Rim2020 knew the coup d'etat will fail because 1994Gon shows up and breaks the flute, and that 2020Gon will come to save the child. With all that knowledge, why didn't 2020Rim go and kill Gon who was still asleep in his bedroom? Instead he went to chat with his 1994self.
Ruckus Likes Drama
June 9, 2020 at 7:06 AM
Aahhh... I now understand. Interesting... I didn’t think about that. Is it because the story has conditioned me to only think about what LR1994 can act against LG1994 and LR2020 can’t. But if that is the logic then even LG2020 can’t kill LR1994!
Like I said... I didn’t think about it and I have no idea why. If I come up with an interesting theory will share :D
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22 Kurama
June 7, 2020 at 9:34 PM
TE didn't really take Luna's threat seriously. I mean in 2 episodes, she could almost killed the ML and the FL. She's pretty effective. PM's a bad character but at least she's smart and she thought to give a question "test" to her mother!
Yeong is pretty hard on TE but he's not wrong. Nobody seems to be able to handle Luna. ES looks pretty smart finally :p
Shin Jae wasn't lucky with his parents. Between the father who switched children for money and the mother who abandonned him and the one who made his life difficult with gambling... I hope he will have happy ending!
For the time travel, they should choose another actor. LHM is too tall and we guessed just after the first episode that he was the one who saved himself. I don't know how he can shoot now... Every change he did had direct consequence on the memories of the people like TE and Yeong. I don't really like it for the love story, for me it doesn't make it more credible as they know each other for years...
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Fly Colours
June 8, 2020 at 2:36 AM
Gon not being a good shooter: I guess that what they want to point out is that had he been a better shoot, he would have managed to kill Rim.
Still waiting for the moment Eunseob will have to drive, tough! They keep on mentioning that
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Fly Colours
June 8, 2020 at 2:37 AM
*though 🤦 (autocorrect hates me)
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Ruckus Likes Drama
June 8, 2020 at 6:12 AM
You aren’t alone! Auto correct hates me too :D
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Kurama
June 8, 2020 at 2:46 AM
He will do in his own way, driving straight in front of him :p
It's sad to have a beautiful and very expensive car that he can't drive... Lee Gon should have thought about his siblings. A family car would have been a better idea.
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Ruckus Likes Drama
June 8, 2020 at 6:14 AM
I guess Lg just wanted to express his gratitude in a grand manner rather than in a practical way :D
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Kurama
June 8, 2020 at 6:44 AM
When Yeong was shoot too and didn't get anything :D
Ruckus Likes Drama
June 8, 2020 at 2:43 PM
@kurama
Now that was partiality. :D
BlueCouchPotato
June 8, 2020 at 3:14 PM
@kurama I don't think Yeong ever told him of his gunshot wound, but hey, Gon has probably given half the Kingdom of Corea to him anyway 😁
BlueCouchPotato
June 8, 2020 at 8:07 AM
I'm thinking that since Gon is shooting at close range, his ability isn't really an issue. He can handle guns, just not as good as Yeong or Shin-jae. We'll find out in the next episode that the main problem was his intention and not his aim.
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23 liar song #PuppyNotPuppyLeeJaeWookIsBack
June 7, 2020 at 9:35 PM
I can't believe there were only 3 PPLs in this episode. The show can't be The King: Eternal PPL if there are only a few PPLs in one episode.
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mugyuljoie is preciousss
June 7, 2020 at 11:19 PM
I noticed that they had plenty of drinks sitting on the police desks but nothing blatant. TE also had make up on her work desk (like I'm sure so many police officers do 🙄).
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liar song #PuppyNotPuppyLeeJaeWookIsBack
June 8, 2020 at 1:00 AM
a police officer's make up is essential
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kiara
June 8, 2020 at 12:28 AM
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24 Slice-of-Life Dramatics
June 7, 2020 at 9:41 PM
My head is bursting after watching this episode. I've decided to just conclude that the whole time-travelling thing is a convenient plot device to show that Gon is passing time in the between place and popping out occasionally in the Republic at different points in time, but obviously the plot has not considered how the creation and insertion of new memories would logically work (and whatever happens to the "old" memories in the original chronology of events).
And while I understand through yo-yo boy's exposition (... now I'm not even going into how I think getting a character to TELL me what is going on via expositive dialogue is an example of poor writing and poor world-building) that 2020 Rim is going back in time to save his 1994 self from failure, why did 2020 Rim not quickly set out to go kill young 1994 Gon himself when he returned to that timeline, and thereby eliminate 2020 Gon from saving 1994 Gon? Especially since 2020 Rim already knew that 2020 Gon was coming back to this same point in time to save his 1994 younger self. The fact that 2020 Rim went back to that point in time, just to talk to his 1994 self and then get himself killed is just... facepalm.
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Slice-of-Life Dramatics
June 7, 2020 at 9:48 PM
Honestly the first thought in my head when Gon started time-travelling and inserting / creating new memories was -- so everything is gonna change in 2020 (the current timeline) as a result of these changes in the past timelines? So did I just watch the past 13 episodes for nothing????
Does anyone understand how mind-blowing that first thought was??? A drama is actually writing itself in such a way that it would erase itself LMAO. What a hot mess. The creation and insertion of new memories and popping out in the Republic at random times and their implications are just... illogical, except as a convenient plot device as above.
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25 bbstl 🧹
June 7, 2020 at 9:42 PM
Thank you, @quirkycase, for the words which best sum up my experience of this drama : Willy-nilly indeed.
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YY Chats with Toast Between Bites
June 7, 2020 at 10:00 PM
Hey, say meow to Cat for me.
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bbstl 🧹
June 8, 2020 at 7:37 AM
Thanks! He says “hi!” back 😺
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