Hi Bye Mama! : Episode 6
by abirdword
Angry ghosts, what do they want? Mostly to help their families move on. Our heroine certainly seems focused on what she can do for Seo-woo, rather than looking out for what might be at stake for her own future in the human world. But as all of the ghosts realize, it’s not always so simple to help your family even when given the chance.
EPISODE 6: “Even in the Face of Death, Family is Still My Number One”
In 2015, Yuri finds herself in the columbarium after her death, and she spends her days there crouched on the floor crying as the other ghosts try to console her. They do their best to demonstrate that they understand how terrified and wronged she feels, but Yuri chokes out that she’s upset that her husband does nothing now but cry.
Yuri is not the only ghost to face this pain. In turn, each of the ghosts cries as they watch their loved ones mourn them. In voiceover, Yuri narrates: “I thought death was just about leaving this life after making the most of the time God has given me… But I realized after death that my life was not mine alone.”
Back in the present, Min-jung ducks into Hyun-jung’s bar to avoid the gossipy neighborhood mothers. She spots Yuri at the bar, but settles into a stool at the opposite end without a word. Min-jung asks for soju, quickly changes her mind to beer, but Hyun-jung serves her soju anyway, pretending that she’s swapped it out because beer has too many calories.
Hyun-jung watches the two women, and she knows how both are likely hurting. She thinks back to the family day at daycare, and the longing stare Yuri held as she watched Seo-woo leave. She also recalls her encounter with Min-jung outside the convenience store and her concern for Seo-woo.
Yuri and Hyun-jung begin texting furiously to plan Yuri’s escape. Yuri also warns that Min-jung shouldn’t drink more than two bottles of soju. As Yuri tries to leave, Min-jung speaks up, declaring that “they look too much alike.” But then she lifts two little shrimps from the snack bowl, and Yuri and Hyun-jung exhale in relief. Yuri tries to leave again, but Min-jung stops her and asks if Seo-woo is really that precious to Yuri.
Yuri does her best to feign nonchalance and says that Seo-woo is of course adorable and sweet. Min-jung responds, “You can be her mother then,” and then her head drops to the bar. Yuri says that Min-jung drank more than she could handle (and Hyun-jung certainly finds it interesting that Yuri knows that…)
The next morning, Min-jung is absolutely wrecked. Smears of dark eye makeup trail down her cheeks and she has two large bandages on her forehead, plus no recollection of how she ended up in that state. Kang-hwa apparently missed her return home the night before, as he was preoccupied in his office, thinking about Yuri lingering outside her parents’ house and the strawberry incident from the day before. But he finally takes notice of Min-jung as she staggers into the office doorway, and he jumps back in shock.
Min-jung is not the only one sporting an injury. Geun-sang teases Hyun-jung about her nosebleed and bandaged nose, until she delivers a swift kick that sends him to the ground in near tears. And at the hotel, Yuri also sports a bruised forehead hidden under a bandage. Hmmm…
Over at the temple, the ghosts have gathered to launch a hate campaign towards God in hopes of returning to life like Yuri. The only one who seems reluctant to join in is the demure ghost Mi-ja, but even she gives a vulgar gesture towards the Buddha statue after the other ghosts have been chased away by Midongdaek.
Midongdaek follows the ghosts back to the columbarium, where they stage an impromptu performance of Les Miserables, but it’s the song of angry ghosts, moody blue lighting and all. Once their performance is over, they accuse Midongdaek of giving Yuri unfair treatment while they remain ghosts. The ghosts continue to antagonize Midongdaek, and she delivers a feral scream of frustration.
Min-jung is still trying to piece together the night before as she walks Seo-woo to school, but she can’t quite recall what she said to Yuri in the bar. Hyun-jung catches up with Min-jung and asks how she’s feeling, and then also dodges explaining how she hurt her nose. When Yuri joins their pack, also clearly injured from some shared forgotten incident, the three mumble awkwardly before finally dropping off the kids. The other mothers wonder if they got in a fight with one another, but one mom points out that they had to all be on the same side because they’re wearing the same brand of bandages.
Min-jung lingers at the window, watching Yuri play with Seo-woo. The mothers invite Hyun-jung out for coffee to discuss “problem children,” clearly in hearing range of Min-jung, and Hyun-jung declines and tells them to mind their own business. She walks away with Min-jung instead, and says that kids don’t have problems, it’s the adults who create them. Min-jung agrees, though she seems to take it as further confirmation that she is to blame for Seo-woo’s behavior.
Min-jung asks if she made any embarrassing mistakes the night before, and Hyun-jung reassures her that she just ate her food and left. But then Min-jung reaches into her coat pockets and pulls out piles of leaves, and Hyun-jung barely conceals her bemused smirk. It drops away though, when she spots Yuri’s dad headed in the direction of the daycare.
Back at the columbarium, Midongdaek has found a solution for her rowdy ghosts. She’s sealed them all in their urns using her trusty printed talismen.
At the daycare, Yuri’s dad arrives to volunteer in stranger danger training. Grandpa stops at the children’s art displayed on the wall, and declares that Seo-woo’s piece is clearly the mark of a genius. Grandpa joins the other volunteers in the classroom, where the kids practice refusing to go with strangers.
Yuri pops out of the kitchen, and gives Seo-woo’s art the same assessment her dad did, ha! She heads towards the classroom, but then quickly darts back to the kitchen when she spots her dad.
Grandpa serves as the pretend stranger while students pull away and tell him no. But Seo-woo is quiet when she holds Grandpa’s hand, and gives him a hug instead. Grandpa is, needless to say, delighted, though the daycare staff are rightfully concerned, haha.
Seo-woo spots Yuri out in the hall again and runs into her arms. Grandpa goes to retrieve her, and Yuri is saved at the last minute as another staff member takes Seo-woo into her arms. That was very close.
Meanwhile, Yuri’s dad’s absence has not gone unnoticed at home. Mom asks Yeon-ji where Dad is, and she shrugs. But once Mom leaves the room, she texts her Dad a warning that Mom has noticed he’s not home.
After the training, Grandpa stays to play with Seo-woo. Yuri watches from the hall, and she recalls a moment with her parents when she was pregnant. Her dad was busy bragging to all of his friends on the phone about his grandchild even before the baby had arrived. Mom reports that Dad was avoiding his class reunion outings because he was the only one without a grandbaby to show off until then.
Kang-hwa and Yeon-ji are there, preparing Yuri’s strawberries. But when Dad jokes that he plans to raise Yuri’s baby for them, no worries, he’s at his father-in-law’s side asking if he can record that promise. Sigh. So then that makes the next flashback, the one of Kang-hwa asking his in laws to take care of Seo-woo for him, extra heartbreaking. Because while Dad stands by his wife’s reasons for forcing Kang-hwa to take care of Seo-woo himself, there’s now extra meaning to Dad’s longing stare at little Seo-woo.
In the present at the daycare, Dad now delights as he plays with Seo-woo, and notes that she reminds him of his own daughter when she was young.
Meanwhile, today is Kang-hwa’s disciplinary hearing. Geun-sang tries to convince his friend to look a little more pathetic and unkempt while Kang-hwa just keeps striding forward in his nice suit.
Dr. Jang sits with the hospital director and tries to make a case for Kang-hwa. The director clearly isn’t interested in Kang-hwa’s hardships and instead says that he will just listen to the decision of the disciplinary committee no matter what. Regardless, a surgeon that can’t perform surgeries is of no use to the hospital.
While they wait for Dr. Jang, Geun-sang questions why Yuri would take a job at Seo-woo’s daycare. Kang-hwa rolls his eyes and questions Geun-sang’s credentials as a psychiatrist if he really can’t guess what might draw Yuri to her daughter’s daycare.
Dr. Jang interrupts them and dismisses Geun-sang to have a moment with Kang-hwa. At Dr. Jang’s serious face, Kang-hwa sits a little taller, apologizes for the doodles on the patient forms that declare, “Dr. Jang is so annoying,” and says that he’ll try to do right from now on.
Dr. Jang offers him two options to finally feel better: raise a question to get Dr. Jang fired, or continue to refuse to perform surgeries and get himself fired. Neither says out loud what they mean, but both of their thoughts are on that moment five years ago, when Kang-hwa begged to perform the surgery. In this flashback he screams at Dr. Jang, “Why did you do this to me? What am I supposed to do now?”
Whatever the question they’re referring to, Kang-hwa chooses treatment instead. Dr. Jang calls out the door, and Geun-sang comes in at first. But Dr. Jang promptly sends him back out and calls for the psychiatrist who will actually be helping Kang-hwa with treatment. Dr. Jang warns Kang-hwa to behave at the disciplinary committee hearing, and then musses up Kang-hwa’s nicely styled hair.
Meanwhile, Min-jung’s memories finally start to come back to her while she waits at a cafe for a friend. She recalls that sometime last night, she drunkenly mistook leaves on the ground as money. This explains the leaves in her pocket, but we still don’t have the full picture.
Her friend arrives, and Min-jung asks if the fellow nurse can help her return to work. Her friend wonders about Seo-woo’s young age, and then also asks about Min-jung working at the same hospital as Kang-hwa. She’s surprised to learn that Min-jung doesn’t even know that today is Kang-hwa’s disciplinary hearing, and Min-jung declares aloud that she’ll pursue a divorce.
Most of the ghosts are still stuck in their urns, but the ghost family is set free when their talisman falls off. They can’t help any of the others though, so they go in search of Yuri. Yuri happens to be watching her father say his final goodbyes to Seo-woo, so she spots the ghosts as soon as they arrive.
The family puts on their most menacing faces and stalk towards Seo-woo. Yuri rushes out, but it turns out the family is just kicking out another lingering ghost. Relieved that the ghost family doesn’t plan to target her child, Yuri follows them back to the columbarium to release the others.
Once they’re all out, they immediately resume making their demands of Yuri. They’ve got all sorts of requests, like replacement portraits to something they’d prefer and new music in the columbarium. Yuri’s overwhelmed by the number of demands, but the ghosts remind her that only she can really understand how they feel. Yuri knows exactly what torments them, and we see Granny Ghost Gwi-soon hovering over her sick daughter’s hospital bed, unable to help. We see Editor Ghost Hye-jin watching as her mother stands in protest outside her office building for her daughter. And the ghost family watches as Pil-seung passes a closed restaurant, unable to feed him a real family meal.
Yuri can’t deny her fellow ghosts, so she offers to do one favor for each of them. She calls back all the requests she heard for fried chicken and new photos, but now that they’ve only got one request, none of the ghosts are quite so quick to make their demand. They all ask for a little time to think, and Yuri leaves with no tasks at all. Midongdaek awaits her outside, and she thanks her, grateful that someone can finally help them.
After wanting to interact with their family members for so long, many of the ghosts now worry how it might negatively impact them. Hye-jin assumes that loan shark Geum-jae’s choice is easy, but it turns out that his mom thought her son was a civil servant, so the sudden delivery of his ledgers may not be as helpful as he wanted it to be. Meanwhile, Sang-bong watches footage of his funeral, and the ghost fam dad notes that the reporters are more interested in which celebrities attended the funeral than the family.
Geun-sang delivers some last minute advice to Kang-hwa, suggesting that he kneel and beg for his job. Kang-hwa remains aloof, and quietly agrees to every judgment the committee delivers. He even nods along when the committee suggests that Yuri’s traumatic death isn’t enough justification for Kang-hwa’s inability to operate.
When Kang-hwa is dismissed, Dr. Jang remains behind to defend his protege. He reminds the committee that doctors are humans too, ones forced to reckon with death every day. But when death comes for someone dear to them, they are just as human as anyone else.
In flashback, Dr. Jang hunts down Kang-hwa at a food stall tent. Kang-hwa is very drunk, and holds his glass out to the angry Dr. Jang before gulping it down himself. Kang-hwa asks how he could ever pull himself together, since Yuri died because of him. He repeats it over and over again, that he killed Yuri, that it was his fault.
At a coffee shop, Hyun-jung stops in for a coffee. She requests that her son blow on her bruises, and he complies. As she waits for her drink, she overhears the gossip moms doing what they do best. They’ve got a new bit of juicy news: they’ve heard that Min-jung is filing for divorce. Hyun-jung won’t stand for it, and she leans in to scold them for gossiping, especially in front of their children. She warns that kids talk, even when parents think they aren’t listening.
But this bit of gossip lingers in Hyun-jung’s brain when she meets with Yuri at the bar. She asks Yuri if she’s really fine with Min-jung raising Seo-woo. Hyun-jung points out that Yuri is avoiding Kang-hwa because of Min-jung, and Yuri responds that she doesn’t belong here anymore.
While they talk, Min-jung and Seo-woo leave their psychologist appointment. Min-jung leans down to Seo-woo, and Seo-woo blows gently on Min-jung’s injury.
Hyun-jung sits at her bar after Yuri leaves, struggling with her decision to tell Yuri about the divorce rumors. Yuri’s thinking about it too as she walks home, and of the encouragement from Midongdaek to take back her place in the world. Across the crosswalk, Yuri spots Min-jung with Seo-woo. Seo-woo breaks from Min-jung and runs into Yuri’s arms in the street. As Yuri passes her back to Min-jung, Min-jung’s memories from the night before finally return.
Min-jung wasn’t alone in that alley collecting leaves. Yuri and Hyun-jung raced after her, trying to keep in check Min-jung’s drunken exuberance. They finally catch up with her, and Yuri pulls Min-jung back from the crosswalk. “Your face scares me,” Min-jung tells Yuri, right before headbutting her. Hyun-jung tries to intercede, and gets her own headbutt as payment. All three women lay sprawled on the ground, their future wounds throbbing.
And finally, Min-jung remembers what she told Yuri in the bar as well, that she could be Seo-woo’s mom. Yuri calls to Min-jung, “Can I?” and the two women stare at one another in the crosswalk.
EPILOGUE
In a food stall tent, all the columbarium ghosts watch on as the youthful living complain about their families. The ghosts know all too well how much they regret that once they are dead. The ghosts scramble as an unaware server begins to clear away the plates of remaining food. In voiceover, Yuri narrates: “Even in the face of death, there’s something that keeps you from thinking of yourself. It’s family.”
COMMENTS
I’ve never been in doubt that this was a show about family rather than a big sweeping romance. But this episode digs in a little deeper and grapples with the question of regrets and second chances, and the doubts that come with the latter. So many ghost stories focus on vengeance for a single person, but not one of our ghosts has once mentioned an interest in chasing down the ones who caused them harm. They all just want to alleviate their families’ grief.
Yuri remains at a distance from this story conversation for the moment, but it’s still pretty clear how this applies to her. She recognizes how a voice from the past like herself could disrupt the happiness her husband and daughter have managed to carve out. Like ghost Mi-ja, she recognizes that dredging up old pains may only cause harm. She’s only let herself think of the damage she believes she’s caused Seo-woo, and nothing beyond it.
But of course the piece of that puzzle that’s missing is that her family hasn’t moved on. It’s still unclear to me whether Dr. Jang allowed the distraught Kang-hwa to operate on his wife, or if Dr. Jang prevented it. Either way, it’s not Dr. Jang that Kang-hwa blames, but himself. He holds himself directly responsible for her death, and now that she’s alive, I can’t even imagine how he’s trying to reconcile that. Even with her here, he seems unable to let go of the blame.
So I’m eager to see some progress between Kang-hwa and Yuri at this point, for both of their sakes. I don’t think it can be an easy reconciliation, even if Min-jung gives them both her blessing, but it’s clearly something they both need. Even if by the end, their relationship isn’t the one that lasts. Yuri seems to be taking initiative at last, but I suspect that her request at the very end is more of a cliffhanger psyche-out than it is a real request to take custody of Seo-woo.
And honestly, I’m happy about that so far. Seo-woo needs more people in her life, not less, and Min-jung is clearly an important person to her. Seo-woo cares about Min-jung. Seo-woo watched so attentively when Min-jung was dealing with her hangover, and blew on her bruises to make her feel better umprompted. There is no wicked step-mother here, and I would be really sad to see their relationship severed.
But it is also very clear that Min-jung needs some breathing room. She may be naturally prim and quiet, but there’s a more interesting, funny side lurking inside, and it doesn’t need to be soju that brings it out of her. Some good friends like Yuri and Hyun-jung seems like an excellent place to start. The gossipy mothers were right about one thing for sure: Min-jung, Yuri, and Hyun-jung are all on the same side of the fight. The ladies are sticking together so far, and I’m here for it.
I think as we move along, the conflict will be less about who should or shouldn’t be in the picture, but rather what role they should play. While Min-jung may be important to Seo-woo, it’s still not clear that she’s the better mother. There are a few things Yuri isn’t aware of yet, like that strawberry allergy, but the energy between Yuri and Seo-woo is clearly something that Seo-woo craves. The show is doing a great job of keeping me uncertain of what I want to see for everyone in the end.
Except let’s get Yuri’s parents in Seo-woo’s life stat. It’s a real blow when Grandpa can only see Seo-woo by playing the part of a dangerous stranger at the daycare. There are people waiting in the wings ready to dote on this child, and I hope that Yuri can move past her own fears to bring them in soon. It’s going to be a two boxes of tissues moment when it finally happens.
It almost feels too late in the game though to start these sidequests for the other ghosts. If we’d seen a sort of weekly story resolution I could get behind this, but how does Yuri have time to help all of the ghosts mend their broken relationships and lingering concerns when she’s got a full plate of her own?
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1 keiru
March 11, 2020 at 8:12 PM
I have only watched the first episode and I kinda regret it, because it reminds me of my mother. She left us last year, the memories still feel fresh. Now I can't stop imagining that my mom is watching me around the house or at my workplace T_T
I'll feel bad if that's true, because I still cry quietly in the middle of the night every time I remember her..
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javinne
March 11, 2020 at 10:22 PM
It is not true.
Well, death is a concept molded by religious, supernatural and in general spiritual beliefs because those are the only ways we have learnt to deal with it. I don't even know your religion or set of beliefs, but according to The Holy Bible, our loved ones are not ghosts like those in this drama. The bible says when you are dead, you don't have conscience anymore nor thoughts nor plans (Ecc 9:5), because death is the opposite to life. But at least the Bible gives us hope, that there will be a resurrection and simply those who are dead will come back to life, for literally a second chance. (Act 24:15).
There is way more info about this, but I don't want to burden you, in case you don't like this topic. For me, it is a huge hope and consolation, helping me to keep on living, and also, having less fear, when I feel I am the one who could (and will) die one of these days.
I hope you treasure your memories. I hope you have a beautiful faith.
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keiru
March 12, 2020 at 3:35 AM
Thank you, I really hope she's fine in the other world
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Kwangil Chung
March 16, 2020 at 1:08 AM
Amen. Are you Seventh day Adventist Christian?
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javinne
March 16, 2020 at 4:40 AM
No. But i definitely believe what the Holy Bible says. And the promises in the Bible are just beautiful
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queenmee
March 12, 2020 at 12:03 AM
I can't imagine your pain. I'm really sorry.
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keiru
March 12, 2020 at 3:39 AM
Thank you for your concern.. I'm still learning to find my happiness back, partly by watching dramas like I always did since I was younger..
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missvictrix
March 12, 2020 at 3:43 PM
Hugs! X
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keiru
March 13, 2020 at 3:47 AM
⊂(´・◡・⊂ )∘˚˳° Thank you~
shinmaryu
March 12, 2020 at 10:03 AM
I'm really sorry to hear your story. I hope you can get through this and find your happiness again.
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keiru
March 13, 2020 at 3:47 AM
。◕‿◕。 Thank you..
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Cornelia Fudge
March 13, 2020 at 3:54 AM
Giving you a big virtual hug xxx
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2 parkchuna 🍉
March 11, 2020 at 9:03 PM
That Min Jung - Seo Woo moment was so lovely. And Min Jung has really been in Seo Woo’s life since the beginning, even if there are gaps in between I’m sure she loves Seo Woo as her own. Can Granpa, granma and the aunt just be in the picca already! I dont understand why grandma is so determined to keep a distance when she clearly still cares and keeps a tab on them from far.
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3 candilane
March 11, 2020 at 10:20 PM
First let me preface my statement with " I like Min Jung" but I feel like she is too distanced with Seo Woo. Min Jung is a good mother ( she does her duties to the T) but she is not a Mommy. Min Jung is not hugging and loving Seo Woo from what I can see, dont get me wrong she cares for her but its more like an Aunt than a mother. Yu Ri is a Mommy!! She doesnt get everything right and she may not know everything but she has so much love for her kid, it just shines through..
I love that I honestly don't know where the writers are going with this. I know what outcome I want but I dare not hope for it too much because my heart will break so I simply pray for the best and prepare for my an okay alternative. lol.. meaning I want Yu Ri to come back more than anything but I wont put my hopes into it.
I really hope we get to see that argument/fight/emotion from Yu Ri and Kwang Hwa. I feel like they both have alot to say to each other and need to get it off their chest. Although Yu Ri understands him remarrying she may have some lingering resentment because he swore he never would. Kwang Hwa may be upset with Yu Ri for leaving him (even though its not her fault). Plus I really want to see why Kwang Hwa chose to remarry Ming Jung and where his feelings are with her, I think that will give us viewers insight and we will have a better understanding of where his heart really is. I am still trying to figure out whether Ming Jung was his fate or whether Yuri was his fate, maybe both women were. Btw how am I just know hearing about Lee Kyu-hyung ( Kwang Hwa)? This guy is incredible but I havent seen him in too many dramas. He is so good in this drama, I want to cry along with him. Kim Tae Hee is lovely, she just have a likeable persona, like someone you want to be friends with. Anywho, love the main actors, love love the drama. Oh, love Rain too.. had to throw that in there.. 🤣😘😜
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MeloMe
March 12, 2020 at 12:42 AM
You should watch Prison Playbook! He does an awesome job at playing a drug addict!!
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4 gadis
March 11, 2020 at 10:29 PM
I was waiting for that last scene to happen since several eps ago. It was just as expected that Yu-ri finally found her desire to stay and find her place as Seo-woo's mom again. While her new determination doesn't exactly come as a surprise, I appreciate the fact that both her and Min-jung are good people. It makes them human and interesting, and it certainly makes this conflict not as easy to solve. There's no kicking either of them out of Seo-woo's life, especially since it's apparent that the little girl has grown attached to both women. I love Seo-woo's dynamic with both of her moms: her quiet gestures of love for Min-jung and her more boisterous laughter and activities with Yu-ri. I can't wait to see these 3 finally spending some quality time together.
In the meantime, can we applaud the writer for letting Min-jung, Yu-ri, and Hyun-jung become tentative (best)friends? They look like a fun, understanding, wild, and thoughtful bunch. They are so different yet also oddly similar in their outlook of life. They are people who refused to engage in petty gossip and general bad mouthing. And they are one of those rare people who don't allow their emotion and "history" to cloud their judgment about whether someone is considered as good person.
On another note, Lee Kyu-hyung killed me in that pojangmacha scene. The way he laughed-cried in front of Dr. Jang, completely out of his mind with guilt and grief just destroyed me emotionally. Someone help him help himself, please.
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Yn00na
March 12, 2020 at 6:16 AM
Lee Kyu-Hyung nailed that pojangmacha. His grief and guilt and self despise felt so real. He did such a great job in Prison Playbook and he is incredible in this Show. Im hoping we'll see more of him in future!!!
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5 hazelnuts
March 11, 2020 at 10:43 PM
Gosh this writer's so good in making me cry! The first scenario of our ghosts weeping with their families just gets me! Literally through me! I (well most of us) know the pain of losing someone so dear, it really is difficult moving on! 😭
I've invested on our ladies-squad this episode! I want more of their bonding (knowing that Minjung/Yuri might leave for good if I may say so), but really, is there such a thing as perfect mother? This story shows how one can portray a Mom to a child - be it in a protective, sweet, subtle or quiet way, it differs! And what matters is that, these children responds to their caregivers! They give back more than what they receive (be it the child/parent)
I love that this episode (story) always centers how important our family is - be it life or death situation.
I cant wait to find out how Yuri and Kanghwa will eventually deal with their reunion (and possible separation, no 😓) with them being honest to themselves.
Hwaiting!
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6 parkchuna 🍉
March 12, 2020 at 7:37 AM
Going in I had no idea what to expect of Hi Bye Mama. Some possibilities i thought of:
Revenge - no
Evil ghosts haunting - no
Bitter family - not really
We still have quite some ways to go so they may happen after all. I’m reallyyyy looking forward to Yu Ri - Kang Hwa breakdown and also Kang Hwa - Min Jung story. Added bonus will be the three ladies’ friendship. Btw, drunk and embarassed Min Jung is so fun to watch.
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7 welh
March 12, 2020 at 8:35 AM
I still want to know how Min-jung and Kang became a married couple. If he continues to be so mired in grief, what made him re-marry?
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8 shinmaryu
March 12, 2020 at 9:53 AM
I'm sorry but i cannot like this drama as much as i thought i would. And i especially dont like Kang-hwa. Tbh my real mom died from cancer when i was six, and my current mom is my stepmom who've raised and loved and nurtured me ever since i was seven yo. I might be biased but i saw this story much more from Min-jung perspective because it reminds me of my current Mom situation when she just married my father. She went through a lot of difficulties and obstacle. From her relatives who judged her for marrying a widower, to her friends who gossiped she did that for my father's money, even my fathers siblings and family who talked as if she was pregnant with my fathers child when my mom is still sick and thats why they get married 'so quick'. She was alone and helpless, her parents couldnt do much because to marry my father was her own choice. And on top of that, she have to take care of little me who was not in the best condition, i have weak body because i might have the cancer seed from my mom and i was very impolite and mean to elderly for no one really taken care of me since my mom was sick. My current Mom is confused. But at least, she have my dad. He couldnt help a lot with the household situation as he is working in another city, but he always stand up to my mom whenever someone talk badly about her. He especially stand up to her against his family. He stand by her side and help her as much as he can. He didnt do what i think Kang-hwa did really wrong.
The moment Kang-hwa started to ask around his colleague what should he do when his old wife come around when he already remarried, i lost my sympathy towards him instantly. It seems to me like he ask which one he should choose, and its very-very irresponsible of him as a husband and as a man who already make a choice. Okay, he is still grieving, i get it. He still love his dead wife. He blame himself for her death. Then DONT MARRY SOMEONE ELSE. ESPECIALLY SOMEONE WHO HAVE SINCERELY LOVE YOU. DONT USED SOMEONE ELSE FEELING AND LIFE AND HAPPINESS TO GET AWAY FROM YOUR OWN MISERY. Thats awful and i hate it. Min-jeong already went through a lot, i dare say she went through a lot more than Yu-ri. She is the one who still living, the one who have to endure all the judgement. She is being responsible to her own choice to marry him and resign from her work and career to take care of his child like her own, and i wish her husband is more considerate and at least didnt add more to her pain. If you havent heal yourself, dont share your pain to others. Its cruel. He is so wrapped up in his own grief, that he didnt even care about his family. He is so careless about the disciplinary that might cost him his job when he have a wife and a daughter he have to taken care of, so preoccupied of Yu-ri, and he seems like didnt realize nor care enough about Seo-woo. Is he know that his child have a talking problem? Is he really know that his child have an alergy to strawberry? Is he know whatever happen in...
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shinmaryu
March 12, 2020 at 9:56 AM
...Is he know whatever happen in his house? I know part of it because Min-jeong didnt tell him when he was home, but its an easy guess. She feel so distant from the husband who sleep on the other side of their bed. How can she confide anything to him when he close him self too? He didnt even open himself to his longtime best friend, how can you hope he might share something to someone he married, idk for what exactly it didnt look like love, just a year or two? I can only think like that because i've seen what my father did to mom, its far from perfect he have faults too, but at least he is being responsible and didnt use my mom sincere love for him only to get over his grief. My father 'get over his grief first', and after that 'then' he married my mom
And i understand that Yu-ri never get to be Seo-woo's mother, not even a day, but she was prepared. During her nine-month pregnancy she was preparing herself to be the mother of her child. She knows Seo-woo is her child. And Min-jeong dont have that. She married Kang-hwa because she love him and then she suddenly become a mom, and no one told her how she should do it. She already tried her best. Of course she feel distant to Seo-woo. She still loves her and care for her but she realize she isnt exactly her real mom. She must have her own self-doubt and insecurity and perhaps blame herself that Seo-woo's failure of talking partly because of her own, because she dont know how to be a mother. I dont like the ghosts and everyone who encourage Yu-ri to take back her place when Min-jeong is already there, as if she is the ghost one, not Yu-ri. It reminds me a lot of my father awful siblings and i still hate them for that
I'm sorry for my long comment and i too much talking. It just this story is feel too personal to me and i dont know where else i should talk about it
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Novahee
March 13, 2020 at 7:46 PM
Listen to my plea on this.
I get your points perfectly, but try to look it from another perspective. Yes, Min Jung is a victim, but so is Kang-hwa and much more Yu ri.
Yu ri did not choose to die. She did not choose to leave her child and husband. She did not go to the street and got hit by a car by being imprudent, she was killed as an accident, and was unable to leave because of her love to her husband and child. She's been lingering for five years, and has seen the man of his life marrying another woman, her child growing without her, and Min Jung is suffering more? Yes, Min Jung faced criticism, yes, she was alone, however, do you even imagine how might it feel to see your child every day and not being able to touch him/her? Or seeing the man you love, the only one you lived with, and not being able to be with him? Surely, Yu ri could have become greedy and as she came back to life, if she decided to earn her place back, she would have the right to do so, but she didn't do it. And she is bad?
Kang-hwa in the other hand is the most suffering character in this drama, his traumas, guilt, the fact that he was unable to get past the grief in those five years, the fact he wanted to end his life and found motivation on his child... I mean it is impossible to hate him. He did not choose to have Yu ri back. He did not choose to have her dead from the beginning. He loved her too much, and despite his love, he still refrains himself from moving because he knows he has a wife he needs to respect. When he asked his friend, he asked because he did not know how to feel, how to react, the thoughts "Do I embrace her?" "How can this be possible?" "How am I supposed to feel?" Do you even imagine what is to long for someone for so long, and have her in front of you and do nothing?
That is literally what he is going through.
As for Min Jung, she married a widowed man. Not any widowed man, but as we see the pictures of Yu ri at that house, that hints us she well knew he was not completely over his first wife from the first moment. She saw him the very first day after he became a widower, for God's sake! It is not like she did not know, moreover, I would say that it is because she knows that she was seeking a divorce from him.
There are no white characters in this drama. They are all gray. They are all victims. Case closed.
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9 liar song #PuppyNotPuppyLeeJaeWookIsBack
March 12, 2020 at 4:20 PM
Min-jung being so wild and free when she's drunk was hilarious, but it also shows how badly she wants to break free from Kang-hwa, even before Yu-ri came back. I can see that people really care for Min-jung, even Kang-hwa, Yu-ri, and Hyun-jung, but I lost it the moment when Seo-woo blew gently on Min-jung's injury, because these two have been caring for each other silently and I don't want them to be separated if ever Min-jung and Knag-hwa get divorced.
I am soooo excited to see how Yu-ri and Min-jung's relationship will develop because it is clear that these two women are so alike, especially for their love for Seo-woo. Can't wait for episode 7!
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kiara
March 16, 2020 at 11:29 AM
The highlight of this show for me is the two women and little Seo-woo.
Their love for Seo-woo feels genuine. Everything else seems too be excessively exaggerated for my liking.
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10 Kkysnoopy
April 19, 2020 at 12:08 AM
The makeup artist should be sacked ! the makeu she made for Yuri is too bad, makes her beautiful face look like alumna . Did she hate her so much or wat ?
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