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Team Dramabeans: What we’re watching

by DB Staff

So, what are we all watching this week?

What kept you reaching for more (or agonizing when there was no more), and what made you want to throw your remote through the screen? Time to weigh in…

 

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My Country: The New Age: I’m loving all of the great sageuks that 2019’s brought us and My Country doesn’t disappoint. While I normally gravitate towards lighter fare, having a serious sageuk is a pleasant treat. The show managed to upend some of my expectations by giving us revelations and even breaking our young leads’ friendship very early on. It’s definitely served to up the tension for the better and I’m dreading seeing the outcome of their clash. Another unexpected treat was Kim Young-chul’s portrayal of Yi Seong-gye. He’s so compelling and manages to communicate so much in just a few scenes. I cannot wait to see him with Jang Hyuk. I’m two episodes in there’s nowhere near enough Jang Hyuk yet by the way. Getting a few fleeting glimpses of the man isn’t cutting it for me. Speaking of cutting things, I wish I could trim off Yang Se-jong’s bangs. I get it, he’s poor, and Goryeo hairdressers are probably expensive, but those bangs are so awful.

 

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Melting Me Softly: I really wanted to like this one, but the story feels a little messy and there’s too much hysterical screaming in the first few episodes. It’s a shame because I like both of the leads, so I will probably continue for at least a few more episodes. Hopefully it gets better? On a completely side note, I started reading the webtoon version of Rugal today (it’s super addictive!) and I kept thinking wistfully, what if Ji Chang-wook had taken the lead role for the drama version of Rugal instead of Melting Me Softly. Not that I think Choi Jin-hyuk isn’t a good fit, but I just want more for Ji Chang-wook :(.

Extraordinary You: Kim Hye-yoon is adorable. She does a great job of delivering the scripted comic book lines while cursing herself on the inside and I love the meta commentary on tired narrative tropes and poor character development. Speaking of which, Lee Jae-wook, please Show, tell me he’s going to be redeemed because I can’t bear to continue watching him be a jerk to Dan-oh. Yes, he’s playing the token bad boy and his dad is a monster. But still, can’t he just be a little more nice to her? I do wish the story could have better explained how Dan-oh and the others developed self-awareness because it just happens without explanation, and we kind of just have to go with it. Still, the drama has been a really fun watch so far and hopefully it keeps it up!

Little Forest: What happens when you put actors Lee Seo-jin, Lee Seung-gi, Jung So-min, and comedian Park Na-rae together to run a low-key summer camp for a small group of kids in the country side? Lots of cute, basically, with a little dash of humor in seeing the cast deal with situations they’ve never dealt with before, having never been parents yet. My favorite part was watching grumpy-pants cool guy Lee Seo-jin being awkward but growing fond of the kids, especially the twins, and being so sweet to them. Unfortunately, the show was only planned for 16 episodes and I’m sad that it’s now over.

 
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Tags: Extraordinary You, Melting Me Softly, My Country: The New Age, What We're Watching

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Hell is Other People: As soon as the last episode was announced to be R-rated, I knew the finale would be more of a bloody fest than giving us answers. The goshiwon's residents killed because...? They just liked? They were different from other people? They were brainwashed? I have nothing against leaving a bit of room for thoughts but it just felt like the story stayed on surface. Jung Woo at the end became like the dentist and will eventually keep killing people. So, he had a lot pilled up and because he lived with crazy people, he just let out his murderous instinct? I think they could have just made him go against the dentist and realize he killed him as self-defence instead of making him the same as others. It looks like the dentist won, actually.

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Beautiful Love, Wonderful Life: I knew the young boy did something he regretted but didn't think his mother knew it too! I still think lying about the suicide was the worst thing to do. The big brother knows about the death circonstances so that's one less frustrating thing for the future. Oh, and I hate the girl's father and big sister arrrrrgh How can he say such horrible things to his daughter and her sister is too materialistic. I don't want her to end up with a chaebol. At least, not until she starts to reorganize her life's priority.

Extraordinary You: My lovely extra Dan Oh ♥️♥️ After reading some Beanies comments, the idea of her and Haru being protagonists of an other manhwa could explain the mystery around them. There were suggestions of them being originally from a historical manhwa, if it's true you guys rule! The question would be how and why did it happen? I initially thought Haru was the webtoon writer but it doesn't make sense since he would be the one who decides on the characters fate. Dried Squid Fairy is suspicious since Day 1. He's hiding something, I'm sure of it. Back on the other characters, I'm having a blast with Do Hwa and Dan Oh scenes (that kabedon tho lol). Can we please have more of them? Kyung is a total jerk arrgh This writer must be crazy! It's been a long time since I haven't been this angry at a manhwa character. He made my blood boil so much at the last scene that I cheered when Haru punched him. He's showing signs of conscience but I have so much hatred for him nothing can redeem him (not even an abusive father will make me understand him).

Graceful Family: Ship is sailing and cute moments graced my screen. And Birth Secret!!! The children's age bothered me but I didn't think about it and I was slapped with that reveal HAHA

The Great Show: If the twins told the truth, DJ's biological father is complete trash. I'm always scared to see Jun Ho becoming a bad politician when he's been fighting against his father's party and political opinions throughout the show. It's just Im Joo Hwan making me uncertain because of his past roles haha.

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My Country: So we are now in the battlefield and seeing how Hwi is gaining the soldiers trust as a "lieutenant", I can see him quickly climb the army ladders. Misunderstandings between him and Sun Ho keep arising as the messenger's identity could have been a good way for Hwi to have a promotion or at least get something from it. Them meeting each other while was intense too! Bang Won showed up and I'm excited to see what he will do as it seems like he has an antagonistic relationship with Mother. Hee Jae said she would protect Mother, so what will she do? So much things going on!

Pegasus Market: This show still cracks me up. How could I have thought the fury guy was going to be a threat when he's crying over his car freshly "cleaned" LOL I wonder if our president will end up getting a better place in the company exactly because he (unintentionally) saved Pegasus Market.

The Running Mates: Cases about the military always look hard to deal with in my eyes. This case's conclusion made me think of a wish, to make it happen irl, but if we don't have it in reality, fiction can give it to us.

Saka no Tochu no Ie (A House On the Slope): on ep 3. I like the parallels between the woman's entourage when they testify in court and how everything turned out in reality. I think she didn't intend to kill her baby and that it was for a span of second that she regrets (I hope!). She's still guilty but I hope she'll have a lighter charge as being the cause of losing her child is already a harsh punishment in itself. I also liked seeing an other working mom who isn't sure of the woman's culpability and in parallels, watching her life both at home and at work. Her husband's words made me hungry as they agreed on her to keep working before she got pregnant and him expecting her to become a housewife.

Secret Boutique: Only one episode this week! Jenny showed more of her emotions and Hyun Ji, in who she sees herself, might make her do things she didn't plan to do. Ye Nam should be lucky to have Tae Sung by her side because she just can't win against Jenny. And wow, I didn't them to have a child together (was YN's daughter mentioned in past episodes?). I liked to see how Sun Woo and Jenny found each other after they got separated. It must have been difficult for him to witness the bathhouse owner mistreat Jenny when he could only hide himself. That explains why he's so protective and kicking anyone's butt to defend Jenny.

Tale of Nokdu: I'm usually interested in palace politics but here they don't merge well with events happening outside of the palace. I kind of fear the moment Nok Du and Dong Ju's hijinks in the widow village will stop.

When The Camellia Blooms: I think Joker could the repair guy. Someone who has access to the bar and doesn't look suspicious has a high to be the murderer. Pil Gu is a wonderful kid. Dong Baek raised such a good kid, she should be proud of her...

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Dong Baek raised such a good kid, she should be proud of her life unlike what Jong Ryeol said (yeah for Yong Shik telling him everything I had bottled up). However, I think they could manage to find a compromise for letting PG know his dad. Being his dad doesn't equal getting back together (something I want everyone in this show to understand).

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@mango,
I am really enjoying CAMELLIA. Before getting to little Pil-gu I laughed when I saw the header pic above of Jong-ryeol. That pretty much sums up the expression JR has given us for 8/16 episodes.
Yes, Dong Baek has done a great job raising Pil-gu as a single mom.
However, now that JR has appeared it looks like DB is sliding down the noble idiocy road. It is not like JR didn’t own up to his responsibilities back in the day. It was only until recently that he found out he was the father of a child. Strong paternal feelings seemed to have awakened (and not only as a way to reconnect with DB). Pil-gu is going to find out about his father one way or another. There is also the matter of Hang-mi showing her true colors and who know what she is capable of.

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Hyang Mi's pic might reveal to the public that Jong Ryeol had a child (but tabloids won't mention he wasn't aware of it imo). She's a ticking bomb and seems to be the corpse we saw in the first episode. I understand JR wanting to be a father for Pil Gu but his harsh words to Dong Baek drive me crazy. An other thing, everyone seems to think if JR claims back his right as a father, it automatically means he's going after DB, which I hope the drama won't give us.

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I completely agree. Tbh, I felt it all click for Pil-gu this episode thanks to Jong-ryeol being more careless than usual. Kim Kang-yoon perfectly conveyed it with his eyes and even Yong-shik saw it and tried to salvage the moment with his sudden throat-punch. It's only a matter of time before he confronts them about it now.

While many have picked sides on whether Dong-baek or Jong-ryeol is more in the wrong here, I'm waiting to see how the show has Pil-gu handle this revelation. I think a father has a right to know about or have a relationship with their kid. But I can't blame Dong-baek for not seeking Jong-ryeol out if they were already broken up. She wanted Pil-gu to be her pride and I could understand her fear of getting Jong-ryeol and, by extension, his mother involved. I suspect we will get more concrete info on what exactly happened when Pil-gu works up the courage to address this.

I also wish Jong-ryeol just cared about connecting with the child he never knew, instead of feeling this need to rescue them both from a life that isn't to his standards. His need to be a part of his son's life shouldn't include having a say on how Dong-baek lives.

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I saw the Pilgu click too @chandler!! I saw it and was going UHOH THE KID KNOWS NOW SHUT UP JR and then Yongsik punched him woot! I am looking forward to seeing that 8yr old blow up at mom Dongbaek, or maybe he runs away to Deoksun and she has to counsel him that his mom only wanted the best for him when she chose to keep his dad away from him... Of course that would speak to her situation too, and then we see both best friends reconcile... *writes the rest of the Camellia storyline in my head *

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@marcusnyc20
It's too early to know what actually broke them up...more may be revealed. However, Jong-Ryeol's issue is he fails to stand up - and this is still his MO (e.g. just look at his life now).

Sure, JR knows his responsibilities when they benefit him...its all in weather he is willing to own the responsibilities as well as the benefits. (in many ways he is a parallel to No - just way more talented).

There is hope he may, but by the demeanour of DB, I suspect she will wait until he demonstrates it.

PG is in for a rough ride no matter what the outcome.

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Just asking - why is PG's family name the same is JR? Since JR didn't even know that he had a son, how could a mother just register the child with a father's name? Shouldn't PG's family name be like DB's?

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Now that you're asking... What is Dong Baek's family name? Was is said in earlier episodes? She either has the same surname as Jong Ryeol or I imagine she wanted PG to be strong so she chose to name him Kang (Kang meaning strong in Korean).

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@louise Thanks I didn't catch that!

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Yes, especially after the latest episode, I am really eyeing the repair guy as the murderer. He's always around. Dongbaek is super nice to him and always offering to feed him, so it seems like a relationship ripe for betrayal.

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Yeah, he doesn't look threatening and his job is a good cover.

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I'm watching too Saka no Tochu no Ie but can't read what you wrote: i'm only on ep2! So frustrating!

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It's frustrating indeed! The difference between testimonies and the reality made me think it's a matter of perspective. Of course, the husband and the mother-in-law don't realise the importance of their words and how they impacted the woman's life.

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Ye Nam’s daughter was mentioned before, but I had assumed her father was Seung Jae. But now we learned that he had feelings for Jenny before Ye Nam (if he actually loves YN at all… I’m not sure).

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It flew over my head, thanks! YN married SJ because she thought Jenny loved him (she really went that far!), so I won't be surprised if SJ doesn't have feelings for her. He became a part of a powerful family.

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About Beautiful Love, Wonderful Life, remember the older brother was looking at the newspaper clippings in the mother's file/room? About the teen who mowed down a grandmother and her granddaughter (or something like that). He asked her if it was someone she knew judging from her panicked expression. She's known all along and had been covering since then...sigh..

The whole event was so hard to accept. Especially when it could have been avoided and solved rationally with her being a judge and all. But it's one of the most original family tragedy cum secret I've seen in a drama.

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@mango and PM The 1st episode with its secrets was too much. I dropped the show right there. Heroine's mom is into it too now.
As PM said the event was the real outcome of the show among all the generic nonsense.

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I found it hard too but like you said, it's quite original to start out this way for a family weekend drama.

@catocat I hope I won't regret not dropping it as early as you 😅

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I am with you for the extraordinary you! The manhwa writer is so cheesy, I think. I mean, if you look back on the dialogue that JuJu Couple has, Kyung's repetitive verbal assaults...I totally understand why Dan Oh feels flabbergasted everytime their scene is on.

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Dan Oh is all of us with manhwa tropes haha.

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Any idea if the webtoon answers questions about the apartment residents? I just started and will finish it for Im Siwan and because it’s that time of the year but I’m going to need serious answers about the what makes the weirdos in that apartment tick. Shallow sidebar comment but the neighbor with long hair and long sleeves is eerily attractive, I thought that was great casting.

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I don't even know if the webtoon is translated sorry 😅 It could still be ongoing if the drama didn't give us answers on the residents backstory.

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I have a headache I need to sleep some dude in Vagabond was doing coke and heroine and drinking soju all at once, and they played romantic music over a judo fight and I screamed and Nokdu would be way better if there was no palace or birth secret just cross dressing and assassins and Tree With Deep Roots is still on hold, and Extraordinary You is living up to my cynical expectations like it's New Years already.

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Dadabond - Chases! Escapes! Car crashes! Car crashes! Car crashes! Plot holes! Logic holes! Despite everything that’s clearly ridiculous about this show, I’ve realised it’s LSG’s conviction in playing the part that’s holding this all together. I never really got the LSG thing but now I definitely do.

Graceful Crack - That’s the birth secret to end all birth secrets. But in brighter news, our ship! Our ship is sailing! Our ship has no name. Name our ship!

Melted Salted Caramel Puddle - This week’s post is here
http://www.dramabeans.com/members/leetennant/activity/895099/
I did not hang myself with my knitting but I think that’s just because I don’t knit.

It’s that time of year and #OctobINAR finally started this morning. We watched episodes 1 through 3 (1-6 in the old version). It continues tomorrow morning at 0830 AEDT. Join us on Discord!

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The Lee Seung Gi Thing *nods sagely* *hands you a membership card*

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I want a membership card too, pretty please!!!

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You know that beanies have messed up your life, when you watch a ship sail, and all you can think is: gosh, Dame Judi will be so pleased.

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So, thanks to @msrabbit, I learnt a new word today. Dalgeon.

Dalgeon: (verb), refuse to die
A dalgeon: (noun), someone who refuses to die

Examples:

1. "Stop dalgeoning, fish!" I yelled. "I'm grilling you for supper, and that's the end of the discussion, you hear?"

2. The dalgeon in him was the reason he survived ten days in the jungles without food or drink.

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3. All these Vagabond posts on @katakwasabi's wall are Dal Goenally annoying. It makes me want to watch the dramas.
4. @sicarius ❤ for Melona is so Dal Goenized that it gained her the queendom.

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*tries to get her head grammatically round this sentence* *just rolls with it*

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Like that drama, sic, it is not meant to be understood. 🤓

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Watch it! Watch it msrabbit. There's a new dalgeon in ep 8 aka Kim Woo Gi. He escaped death multiple times in one episode. He's near the same level of dalgeon as original Dalgun.

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I feel a new Beanie level in the brewing

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I think you gotIt wrong, katak. Woo Gi is the original. He survive a midair plane explosion!

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5. @yyishere moving into the rooftop is a happening in Dramabeans of dalgeonian size. 축하해!!

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Wow - and I missed the moment that @yyishere finally became a Rooftop dweller. I was only away from DB a couple of days... was there a party?

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I think it happened overnight - or my overnight at least.

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You didn't miss much. It just happened.

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This calls for a beanie wall party STAT

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So I went and got some sleep and now I can give some more coherent thoughts on Tunnel which I decided to watch this weekend while I am lying around resting my back, which has decided to be even worse than usual.

I have to say it took me a while to get into the show. Much of it is similar to other shows. The murders it's based on underpin other shows. The concept is clearly influenced by the original Life on Mars (before they just completely remade Life on Mars). But when Lee Yoo-young showed up, the whole thing got more interesting.

As the show unfolded, I really liked how they dealt with the psychology of the murders. They seemed to be dealing with the pathology of serial killers quite we'll, LYY's character was an interesting, creepy by sympathetic female lead. The buddy cop bromance was well done and I liked both male leads - even if the main lead was slightly too emotional for me.

But then around episode 11 the whole show just went off the rails. People started making dumb, almost inexplicable, decisions to drive the plot. The one female character endured a character assassination and barely survived it. And now I'm stuck at episode 13 annoyed at everything and everyone. I'll finish it up today but I'm afraid that Tunnel won't be up there with my favourite shows - even if most of it is quite well done.

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At episode 15 of Tunnel I think I'm just about done with this nonsense. They have one female character, ONE, and her whole role has been reduced to being victimised for the male leads' man pain. Female characters are not just love interests and victims, Korea. Up your game. This isn't 2010 anymore, this drama was made only two years ago.

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I 100% agree with your assessment. I just watched this, too, since it showed up on Netflix. It started off well and I was excited to see so many of my favorite side characters. I liked the two male leads and the female lead. The snarky banter to bromance was well done. But, it telegraphed all the plot twists from way too early on. I was exhaused from yelling at the screen, "NO! Don't tell so-and-so everything you know!" I had high expectations, so I guess it's only natural that I was disappointed. I was hoping for another Signal. The treatment of what started out as a cool, strong female lead was especially disappointing. She was so smart that I kept thinking that she suspected who the real killer was and was meeting with them in an attempt to draw that person out... I was really disappointed that instead she became just another tool for the killers manipulation.

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Oh and I Am Not A Robot exists. That is all.

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It does and it is still just so well written. I can't believe this is my fourth rewatch and I can still enjoy it so much. The company helps.

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My dad is still surprised I haven’t actually watched this and keeps telling me I should see it. (My mom has watched it 4 times too.). If you make this a yearly event, I might get to it eventually!

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Ugh I realize how much I truly love this drama at every rewatch and I rewatch very few dramas...literally 3 actually. As soon as the temperature drops (and it literally just happened in my area although it probably won’t last *sigh*). I start making plans to rewatch INAR and Miss Korea.

During my first watch, My mom started watching INAR with me during their heart to heart scene in the park and she was melting along with me. I’m planning to get her to watch it with me this year.

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Sis yes

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I love INAR!!!

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-Ongoing-
MY COUNTRY (Ep.3): My heart bleeds for these young people and then skips a beat when Yang Se-jong rushes into battle like a god of war. Omg.

EXTRAORDINARY YOU (Ep.4): Started out of curiosity. The premise is fascinating. I love the way it pokes fun at drama cliches, with entire scenes and lines ripped off from BOYS OVER FLOWERS. Dried Squid Exposition Fairy gives off villain vibes, or maybe I’m paranoid.

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KING’S DAUGHTER SOO BAEK HYANG: It ended well, though there were hiccups along the way, including the requisite dose of Noble Idiocy. I think King Muryeong has to be my favourite kdrama king of all time: he was so good and devoted to Baekje, yet so unfortunate with his family and loved ones.

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Dried Squid Fairy, definitely something off there 🤔

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The way his smile faded was just creepy.

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I don’t trust him one bit.

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Good to know I’m not seeing things. 😂 He knows too much, which makes him suspicious.

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*The Untamed*: I didn't have the time to read the Open Threads or the comment threads for the WWW posts, so I completely missed the The Untamed love fest. Such an awesome show and such a fantastic cast. I've been listening to the OSTs for the show and the anime on repeat at work and the music is BRILLIANT. If I thought I had the patience to learn how to play the flute, this would definitely make me go out and buy one.
*Melting Me Softly*: Is it really shallow to say I'm watching the show for Ji Chang Wook and less for...anything else? But also their fish-out-of-water shenanigans are really funny.
*My Country*: I watched episode 1 and I realised I haven't watched Woo Do Hwan in anything since Mad Dog and now I feel sad about that.
*The Tale of Nokdu*: So, so good. How is Jang Do Yoon such a pretty and convincing girl? Not even intentionally, I kept wondering what would happen if Yulmoo (is that his name?) switched his affections from to Nokdu. The Untamed effect, I guess.
*Miss Lee*: It's a good show, but I don't exactly buy Kim Sang Kyung as the mentor here. I mean, I get what they're trying to show, but I don't understand. Sun Shim's blind dependence on him just seems very excessive and the side characters aren't all that endearing yet. May be I'll hold on for a couple of more episodes.

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Save yourself and don't watch Woo Do Hwan's last drama (the drama that shall not be named). It was a waste of talented actors.

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Is that all he's been in since Mad Dog? Cool, I feel better now.
I did actually skip that one. I have this strange irrational hatred of Red Velvet based on absolutely nothing. Why? Who knows.

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You can definitely try to learn how to play the flute. It's not difficult to learn but hard to master.

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The music to Untamed is brilliant! I've posted several on my fanwall too. I love Song Ji Yang's dance at the Thai fan meeting, and it's on my wall too. It's from the Yi City arc.
Tale of Nokdu is the only one that stands out above the rest of the tired kdrama fare. And I'm loving it.
But nothing will ever replace Untamed.

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What other new kdramas have you tried?

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@outofthisworld: assuming you're asking me...
Tale of Nokdu., After reading raves about Extra-Ordinary You, I tried the 7th episode (you know I don't start at the beginning). It was magical...and I usually don't like that stuff. So I'm gonna try it.
Netflix: Lee Min Ki "Everyone's Lies". It looks to be standard stuff, a bit predictable, but the cast work well together and since I'm such a Lee Min Ki fan I'm liking his portrayal of the cop. I'm used to his more eccentric roles so this is nice for a change.
Dropped My Country - boring.

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I am still trying to fathom how you can start a drama like that, hahaha! Anyway, I am enjoying Extraordinary You because it's so meta and funny!

I'll continue with Tale of Nokdu as long as it entertains me with the cross dressing shenanigans. I don't care about the rest.

My Country - I keep getting mixed reviews on this one. Some beanies love it and it's like the comeback of glorious old saeguks whereas some feel the same as you. I tried barely a quarter of an ep and stopped.

I think watching C drama periods have an unintended effect on my watching of K period dramas. For the lighter fare and comedy like Nokdu, it's less obvious. For the more serious ones which My Country is, the effect is more.

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@outofthisworld: the unintended effect - exactly! It makes the kdrama flaws even more obvious. Though lately most of the C dramas that are modern seem all alike. I'm trying both Standing in the Time and The World Owes Me A First Love but it's difficult to not get bored plus get them mixed up because it's the same male lead in both. I'm always amazed at how big and tall Xing Zhao Lin is. He towers over his leading ladies.
I'm looking forward more to Wolf, 3000 Crows, remake of With You, Insect something or other (Rep era). Please hurry and air!
The Nokdu cross-dressing I'm afraid might get old unless they can keep coming up with funny situations and keep them fresh. (The Last Empress was ruined for me because the twists kept going on and on and got boring). Otherwise, what I like more is how they're turning tropes around.

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I had to google that name again. I can't keep up! Yeah, he's 1.87m. They are all tall. Just look at the Untamed cast, everyone is at least 1.8m except for JGY and NHS. WYB is the shortest among the rest. I guess it's nice to have a tall guy towering over you but in real life, it's a pain in the neck. Literally. I don't consider myself short but just looking up at my son gives me a neck ache.

C vs K period drama - For visuals, the C ones win hands down. The cast is always be beautiful, the sets, costumes, props elaborate and gorgeous and wonderful cinematography. For well written plot and strategy, nothing comes close to NIF. Even Minglan and the lesser ones like Yanxi Palace, I was amazed at the turns and twists. Acting wise -most act as well as they look. I am always surprised by a eye candy who can act.

So, a K period drama will only work for me if I get completely sold on the characters. That's what I expect the 2 leads of My Country to do. Hopefully they do.

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@outofthisworld Ha - I had to google his name myself! tbh, the only names I can remember of actors or characters are 1) Wang Yibo aka LanZhan, 2) Xiao Zhan aka WeiYing. I can't even remember his sister's name or brother's or ...have to look them up every time.
Yes, Chinese from what I understand love harmony and beauty, yes? So I expect everything visually to be perfect in color and harmony and everything balanced, and to have wonderful music.
Funny you mentioned NIF, Yanxi and Minglan, because I do not like any dramas that take place mainly in the palace and resulting intrigue. Nope, not for me. Give me the outdoors and plenty of wuxia/kungfu. But also, NIF I've never watched because I can't emotionally connect with either Wang Kai or Hugh Ge. Loved NIF2 though...
What I like about kdramas is the grittier side of life, it's more realistic. But lately the plots have been too silly, too fluffy, or trying too hard to be serious. Scripts rarely are original or clever or have just a different twist. Very disappointing. And most of the time the music osts are terrible. I cringe now whenever they play someone singing a cheesy love song whenever the OTP are together.
I love how c-drama osts are ballads, tells the story of the character, or are like poetry.

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I mentioned NIF, Minglan and Yanxi because these are not wuxia or xianxia but closer to the K period dramas which feature quite heavily on politics. I just find the latter not intriguing enough.

I don't really like Chinese dramas where it's too perfect and clean like Love O2O and many modern roms. Not all Chinese dramas are visually 'perfect', there are some gritty ones. But it's just the the cinematography and colors are still so gorgeous that you can call dirt beautiful, hahaha!

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@outofthisworld Speaking of beautiful in c-dramas, I'm just reading the chapters on Tenderness, the part where they're on their way to the Burial Mound and Wei Ying is on L'il Apple. And it reminded me of that scene in the drama, one of the most beautiful scenes imo! I absolutely loved the beauty of it.

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I'm one of those strange people who will jump to the end of a story to see how it ends, so I haven't read the novel completely, but I can still see how closely the show follows it.
I think my favourite part was just after Wei Ying wakes up, when Lan Zhan's playing. That regret and remorse and thankfulness that Wei Ying's back...goosebumps.
Also, the scene in the snow, when Lan Zhan's inside the Jingshi and Wei Ying's unravelling the plot outside. It's so intense, but they've acted it so effortlessly. I wasn't even this invested in Guardian.

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I'm going to talk about this part on my fanwall soon. It was crazy emotional for a very understated scene.

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Xiao Zhan did such a fantastic job of portraying Wei Ying's grief and bitterness. It was raw, but also restrained...I mean, how does he do that?

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"Nothing will ever replace Untamed"
True. This drama's carved a little place in my heart all its own.
I don't watch c-dramas very often; this is probably the second or third I've watched (does Murphy's Law of Love count as a c-drama? Or the HIStory series?) but I'm kind of dreading finding either of the leads in other dramas. Like imagining watching Jensen Ackles be someone other than Dean Winchester. Can't imagine it.

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HISstory, Murphy's - those are from Taiwan (as you probably know), so they're very different from c-dramas, both in content and budget.
Funny you should mention Jensen - my daughter thinks he's a narcissistic sociopath/psycho and does not understand why fans liked him so much. Her favorite character is Castiel, well at least as played by Misha Collins - it's really Misha she's a fan of.

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Er, I didn't mean Jensen was a sociopath! Dean was...she posts a lot about how horribly he treats Castiel and how the fans always justify Dean's actions.

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Castiel's arc is, I think, the best one on the show, even though I don't like what they've done with his character.
I do agree Dean's quite unfairly an asshole to him, but I also think Castiel himself has become somewhat of a doormat over the course of the show...or just really beaten down by everything that's happened to him.
Sorry, I'm unintentionally using you as a conduit for a Supernatural discussion on a k-drama, LOL.

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@shinayame Ha, you should talk to my daughter about Supernatural - she's done so many yt videos and written fics, showing Dean's insanity.
She says Castiel is a doormat because the show runner doesn't like the fact he's such a popular character on the show.

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Extraordinary Ordinary Extra is still my favourite show from the current pack I'm watching and I still like EVERYTHING 🙂. I like the acting (and not just the fantastic Kim Hye Yoon), I like the writing (all those manga cliches 😁 ...and all those questions - is Dan Oh actually creating Haru? Why is the show getting dark... and violent? Where are we going to????) and I like the directing (the click sound of the Stage, the change of colours, the light... and general manga feeling). As I said, I like EVERYTHING. 😊

The other show I'm quite enjoying as well is Tale of Nokdu. Historically probable or not, I'm thoroughly enjoying all the teasing, bickering and sparkling between Nokdu and Dong Ju (o-mo-ni 😁... or pillow fight 😍... or the 2 chickies Dong Dong + Dong Ju = Dong Dong Ju 😂😂). I also like how Nokdu is not afraid of household works and how Dong Ju is technically skilled. They really do form a complementary and equal couple (and so do Jang Dong Yoon and Kim So Hyun). The other thing I'm enjoying and appreciating is the directing, like the smooth changing of scenes by just zooming out and in, or by crossing the roof... or how the PD merges the present and past. And now when I'm thinking about it, the writing isn't bad either (ha, the ending of episode 4 where all the threads and misunderstandings come together!) . Hmm, maybe I also like everything then? 😆 (no no, not the palace intrigues, that's just necessary evil... 😉)

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I think the best thing about tale of Nokdu is that Nokdu doesn't look down upon women. Probably also because it is in a sageuk setting(where men do treat women and mostly gisaengs as trash) that we get to see that he basically treats Dong Joo as his equal, a rarity and also respects other women.
Extra ordinary you is just great overall.

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Vagabond : spy action marshmallow that takes the risky and naked adventures of ‘drifters’....says google translate 😆

Anyways...I'm sad with what writernim did to KTW's character in ep 7. I hope he's better in ep 8. *sigh*

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I'm behind, and laughing my way through it to catch up. Nice work in ep. 6 @sincerelytod.

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My guess is that everyone but Hae Ri and Dal Geon is compromised. Will they ride off into the sunset together when this is all over?

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They will move to Morocco. DG is sniper in disguise as stuntman and Hae Ri resuming her NIS Candy role and they live happily ever after forever

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I have a feeling they will RUN into the sunset together, since they are so good at it.

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He was reduced to an extra. He was just...not there...

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No, it gets worse in most ways but one.

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I thought he was better in ep 8 than in ep 7. Disregarding the overthetopness of the NIS related stuff, the surgery scene and gunshooting which was really just funny, I can continue to like KTW, he's not that bad of a person. I'm glad that he reported Haeri and Dalgun were the ones who captured KWG and he didn't take credit.

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That he can do surgery was the one plus.

Not taking credit, I took as just the basics.

The shootout was just silly. We have NK SOF with automatic rifles and an RPG getting out shot by some guys with a few pistols...yeah, right. I laughed instead of oohing and aahing.

I think the writer is terribly lazy.

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At this point, I think the shoot out scene and maybe everything was made for laughs. I even laughed during the surgery scene. Everything is so over the top but it's entertaining to me as long as they don't make Ki Tae Woong a douche. Hahahaha!

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Tale of Nokdu: I thought the second week was more fun what with Dong Ju learning Nokdu’s secret and becoming his “daughter”

Extraordinary You: Kim Hye Yoon is great as Dan Oh. It's a fun show but I don't find myself thinking about it much between episodes.

When the Camellia Blooms: I definitely think DB’s mom is faking dementia but not sure why. I really like the lawyer lady. I think the writer has done a good job depicting the feel of a small community.

My Country: It's nice to see a high budget look like a high budget given some recent outings. The vets have caught my interest the most. The plot is pretty standard which is fine if the characters are engaging but for me, character development has been lacking and in Episode 3, especially, I felt the leads were walking cliches having dramatic moments that felt unearned.

Pegasus Market: I love Kim Byung-chul’s expression every time one of his character’s crazy acts of sabotage end up helping the market.

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You got me thinking about DB's mom. Why would she fake dementia? Maybe because there's no other way she could insert herself back into DB's life? I haven't been able to figure out how a woman with dementia could find her long lost daughter, so it makes sense that she's faking.

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I also find DB’s mother suspicious.

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Hell Is Other People: Jong Woo becoming truly insane is great but that’s too little for 10 episodes.

Pegasus Market (Episodes 1-3)
I love this show a lot! The chemistry and dynamics within the Pegasus Market staff members draws you into the wacky comedy that is highlighted within the story, sprinkled with touching and heartbreaking moments here and there. I think now will be the ideal time for the backstories of the villains to start rolling: hopefully the writer does not intend to leave them as cartoonish! Otherwise, I’m pretty satisfied with how the development has been so far. I’m wondering if there is a love line between Suk Goo and Mi Ran: I trust it will be handled with sensitivity plus one dash of guaranteed laughter!

Extraordinary You
It’s clear by now that Ha Roo and Jinmiche have definitely been self-aware for a significantly long time such that there was a Horrible Event in the past. I guess that it has got to do with over-manipulation of the storyboard resulting in one big irreversible change but we’ll cross that bridge when we get to it. The relationship between Dan Oh and Baek Kyung is really interesting as her self awareness might have inevitably given him more stress, unbeknownst to her. I hope he’ll gain self awareness too: he’s well on his way following Do Hwa and it’ll give him the fresh perspective he sorely wants.

Tale of Nokdu (Episodes 1-8)
Jang Dong Yoon is so great in acting both as a man as a woman! I like how he portrayed both masculinity and femininity with aplomb. Apart from the political mess (yawn), I found it great how this week we came back full circle to the initial couple that lent Nok Du his disguise with their story being used as the ideal cover for the female assassins. I think Chef’s lackey was the one who drew the sword on the wary assassin: he knows more certainly. Going forward, I’m hoping Nok Du starts converting others in the village: there’s more help he could use and a lot of good-natured people!

Melting Me Softly
The plot is moving faster than expected with regards to the truth that Dong Chan was abandoned by his friends, which I like, but I don’t fancy in particular the Evil Guy that is chasing after Dr. Hwang, which will definitely mean that our two leads will be in peripheral danger (on top on the temperature side effect issue). It was rather interesting to see how the female lead’s family had adjusted themselves properly over the 20 years as a result of her telling them, in contrast, the male lead’s family struggled without the info. I do see myself continuing the show without thinking too hard in my mind.

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I feel your bold commentary on Tale of Nokdu! ^^ I can't say enough good things about Jang Dong Yoon's portrayal and his chemistry with Kim So Hyun.

That last scene in the palanquin had me going Omo, omo! Did they really change clothes inside?! Can't wait for next week!!!

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Having now seen Episode 4 of PEGASUS MARKET your guess about a romance between Suk-goo and Mi-ran appear to be spot on: The ship has not quite sailed yet but there is a scene towards the end of the episode which changes how Mi-ran sees Suk-goo. And yes, once again yet another attempt by Bok-dong to bankrupt the Market misfires- because once again his heart was moved to help someone who was in trouble, and once again that person responded in a splendid way.

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My country: great first 2 episodes with an interesting plot on the character front and overall. It’s so nice to see Woo do Hwan in a show that utilises his acting well. His bromance with yang se jeong is gonna be a heartbreaking one I can feel.

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CRICKET - want it so much. Badminton and Tennis too.

JDORAMA - 4-punkan no Marigold 1st episode has aired. waiting for subs. Those who watched AND, LIVE join it for this teary ride. Little bit incest is icing on the wake

Shinmai shimai no Futai Gohan - All of my liked slice-of-life are getting live-action. Now waiting for Translation. Let's have a Meal Together.

BOUKYAKOU NO SACHIKO - Episode 4 . 8 out of 10. Waiting for her movie with kento - WOTAKU NI KOI WA MUZUKASHII

Pure - Episode 03 - ahh Hamabe. Cute Hamabe

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2@coolgirl saw your views on AND, LIVE. I won't say they only went for looks. There are many who think Arimura Kasumi lacks the skills of acting. As i don't put much importance into acting, I get around average acting easily. I liked that Korean Actress. She looked far more natural in a Japanese drama. that other K-actors in their own demography.

Locations were beautiful. As i mentioned at the time of my views, Episode 06 small countryside location was too beautiful an popular. I want to buy a house there too. I can only if they accept my application.

Also 2 new action shows have started to get translation. Right for you.

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KOREAN - Approval for - Human Rights - but dropped
Rest is usual trash stuff and porn + romance porn - dropped.

Wagebond - forceful comedy. This is the mainstream kdrama. ahem quality stuff.
Chinese porn - dropped all
The Sand Princess - 4/10 watching it for baifern and some bitter words between characters.

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Hamabe Minami must watch - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYqLpgAFVqU 3 minutes
@moonbean Watching Australia's Journey - Slow Tv as well traveling through norway through another show

EVERY DAY A GOOD DAY - 7-8 out of 10. Slice of life is my Tibbet journey. Tabe Mikako makes this one worth watch. Simple and interesting. Those who like spicy stuff won't even be able to have fun with this movie

We Are - Ao No Michi - 7. I was expecting a lot of shoujo stuff but movie is better than that. Watch it.

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Hope you are enjoying it! I am hoping to watch the real version of a similar journey in November!

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finished WHERE STARS LAND... the ending was so unsatisfying, what would it take to show Lee Je-hoon’s face???

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DARK German's take on Stranger Things, but I feel it's more like Wayward Pines. I probably going to drop it, this drama really lives up to its name. It's too dark for me.
VAGABOND It's so ridiculous, I love it.
EXTRAORDINARY YOU I only watch it for Lee Jae-wook. I want to cast Lan Zhan's mute spell to Dan-oh. Everyone and their mothers knows how I feel about loud people (I hate them).
TALE OF NOKDU I enjoy this drama. It has every tropes that I love in a drama. So I'm surprised it doesn't give me joy like I had with The Secret Life of My Secretary. I was pretty sure Tale of Nokdu going to be my favourite romcom of the year, but now I'm not sure.

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ha ha.. someone else who is also irritated by loudness of dan oh

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Everyone and their mothers knows how I feel about loud people (I hate them).

😂I'm rolling with Dan Oh's intensity though IRL, she might be a hard pill to swallow.

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Just watching her makes me feel like I've finished a C25K.

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😂

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I really love Dark though. It's completely crazy but so intricately plotted. It’s as if the Grimm brothers met Einstein arguing with Nietzche and decided to write a modern-day fairytale on eternal recurrence. I don't think it's in any way related to or inspired by Stranger Things. It's a uniquely German sci-fantasy.

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Dark blows my mind with how intricately plotted it is. I’ve never seen anything like it.

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On the internet It is promoted as German takes on Stranger Things hence I started it. When I first saw the thumbnail on Netflix years ago, I knew it's going to be too crazy. European shows rarely work for me.

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Honestly I'd pay money for another Dark.
But it is a taste thing and doesn't get less crazy FYI

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Also I once wrote a blog post on it if you're interested
https://invisibledragon.home.blog/2019/06/22/amor-fati-darks-inevitable-season-2/

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Thanks @leetennant, I will read it. For now I put Dark on hold. It's just too sad.

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It's a relief to find someone else who is not over the moon about Tale of Nokdu. It's cute, it's okay, but the story lines, especially the palace intrigue, are not meshed well with the comic hijinks and I am not seeing any chemistry between the lead couple, at all. Maybe I'm just spoiled because the last cross-dressing show I watched was Bromance, where the chemistry was off the charts.

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Pegasus Market: 9.3 Why is there only one episode a week? It takes twice as long to film as other shows because they can't stop laughing?

Extraordinary You: 6.8 Rebel, Thief Who Stole the Manhwa? If it's as good as everyone else says, why did I keep falling asleep this week? Is there a heart transplant in the future?

Vagabond: 8.0 Fun, but not great.

My Country: 6.6 Big budget didn't include much money for originality.

Melting Me Softly: 7.0 Has good moments; concept is good but implementation is spotty. Some supporting characters are lame.

Tale of Nokdu: 8.2

When the Camellia Blooms: 6.5 I've gotten tired of the 2 guys bickering.

Running Investigators: 6.0 Not a fun watch. It tries to cover real issues and thinly disguised real events, which are good to know about but if you've been following the news or even the right other kdramas you already do know and can pass on this one.

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I've finally saved up four episodes of Pegasus Market to binge because I'm in great need of laughter. Since I'm also enjoying Extraordinary You, I finally started watching Sky Castle, which stars the leads from the two current dramas.

I really like how well the leads work together in Running Investigators but I find the cases are tied up a bit too neatly. Do you know what language the female voice speaks over the episode title cards?

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At last, someone has come up with a logical hypothesis for why there is only one episode per week of PEGASUS MARKET. Thank you, Lord Cobol.

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About Beautiful Love, Wonderful Life - I went in expecting a cheerful romcom but what happened in the first two weeks was anything but! There better be a good payoff after all the suffering I went through! I was so distressed over the circumstances that led to the boy's death that I literally had a dream about the whole thing which started with the hospital slip and the truth unfurling from there.

I understand they needed a birth secret that would be impactful to warrant a final resolution towards the end of the series ala Father Is Strange but this has got to be one of the most far fetched way of doing it. I almost dropped the drama after this week if I had not seen the preview for next week which seemed like the time jump had happened. The only thing I will miss about the past is the adorable little sister.

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Odd thing about movie Little Forest. The small town girl best friend is the same actress who played the hot young news presenter in Misty. I almost didn't recognize her.

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That has happened to me before. If the actor/actress is playing a very different role from what I’ve previously seen them in, I sometimes don’t recognize them at first.

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She also plays the FL in Come and Hug Me. She's a fantastic actress, as I find her almost unidentifiable from one roll to the next. As much as I loathed her in Misty, my heart broke for her in Come and Hug Me and I sympathized with her puppy dog eyes for Ryu Jun Yoel in Little Forest. I loved Little Forest with it's quiet story of growing up.

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I found myself only reach for rom-com this season.

the Tale of NokDu : I'm amazed by Nok-Du's character and Jang Dong-Yoon's performance.

Extraordinary You : I'm in a love-hate relationship with Baek Kyung right now. Waiting for the day he becomes aware of his situation. Really want to see his real personality and how he will react. Dying to know what's going on with all these characters and how the story is going to end. I also have the same feeling with Dan-Oh that the tone has changed drastically, from super hilariously cute rom-com to somewhat creepy with Dried squid showing a glimpse of darkness, with Baek Kyung turning full violent mode, and with his psycho dad.

Little Forest : Just finished ep16. The kids are super adorable and smart for their age, yet they're so pure. I didn't think I would cry but I did when Jung So-Min bursts out her tears. Then Brook and Lee Seo-Jin both trying to hold back their tears while saying goodbye. In such a short time, they've build such a bond with each other.

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Didn't remember much of the dramas I watched this week, except that I cried bucket watching Little Forest last episode. Beanies who watched it, I need a support group for therapy.
I am ❤❤❤ Nokdu, Extraordinary You and My Country and thank you, beanies for all the georgeous pictures and high quality comments! Sending you all your favorite food/coffee truck!
I am behind on some of my dramas as I am a little busy this weekend.

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Tale of Nokdu It's a nice and funny fusion sageuk :)

Flower Crew: Joseon Marriage Agency All I can say is Kim Min Jae

When the Camellia Blooms I have a weird relationship with this drama. I like it, KHN is killing it, but I have to motive myself to watch but once I did, I like it.

Extraordinary You My favourite one! All is perfect in this drama. I'm never bored, the flow is pretty fast. The characters are very interesting. Haru is super mysterious, Baek Kyung is becoming like his father but now he's really interesting in Dan Oh, Do Hwa knows the truth and his scenes with Dan Oh are really nice and Dan Oh is just love! She is us : watching pretty boys, screaming against cringy lines, hurt by mean BaeK Kyung, drooling in front of Haru :p

Secret Boutique It's very interesting. I like the characters and their relationships.

My Coutry I love how they embraced the war side of this drama! The scenes look really great! It's not listed in current airing dramas

Beautiful Love, Wonderful Life This kind drama askes so much patience...

Vagabond I'm so disapointed by everything... The story, the characters, the actors...

The Lies Within Super curious about it!

Melting Me Softly I'm just watching JCW scenes and I'm not feeling ashamed for that! :p

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I'm still really enjoying Flower Crew.

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Will you continue watching Vagabond even though it disappoints you at every level? Or should I say hate-watching?

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I'm asking myself the same question honestly. There isn't so action drama and the action scenes are pretty good but in the same time the plot is lame...

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Your camellia comment is on-point with my own experience. I'd like to drop the blame on Extraordinary You though. It's absorbing all my energy and hype, and I find it harder to be invested in other airing drama I'm watching. Ofc, not to say the others are lessen in quality.

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I agree. Extraordinary You is very exciting for me too. Secret Boutique's plot is clear, beat the villain CEO who stole her place and I'm curious about their battle. But for Camelia, the genre is kinda rom-com, thriller, slice of life, so I think my curiosity is less titillated.

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Vagabond is best watched as a comedy.

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I didn’t get around to posting last week like I wanted to, so this is what I’ve been watching the past 2 weeks. My viewing habits have been kind of erratic and restless lately. I’ve been jumping around between dramas, variety, and movies and can’t seem to settle down on anything.

LITTLE FOREST (the variety show) Ep 1-2 1/3:
All your posts have me watching this show now, @bebeswtz. It is precious. There is something therapeutic about these slower variety shows; I love them.
Also, I have awoken to Lee Seung Gi.

LITTLE FOREST (the movie):
I decided I need to watch all Little Forest shows and movies. This is a very low key, quiet movie. I was borderline bored, but it’s kind of nice at the same time. I’m about midway through, so I’ll give the final verdict next week.
Next up: variety show LITTLE HOUSE IN THE FOREST. Let me know if there’s any other forest shows I need to watch.

ON YOUR WEDDING DAY (movie):
So I watched this early last week, and it kinda ticked me off 😆.
What I wanted was a cute happy romance story. What I got was 2 hours of on again off again with frustrating missed timing and no pay off at the end (+immaturity and unexplained motivations). I did not know it was going to end that way until...it ended that way. As I watched the minutes tick down, I kept waiting for something to suddenly happen because no way can they not end up together right?! Wrong. I do feel a bit of an idiot for not getting a clue from the title. Maybe if I’d stopped to think about it for a sec I would have realized this wasn’t going to be a fairytale. Instead I jumped in blind because, “Hey, look! There’s a free movie on Viki!” I realize the argument that this ending is more realistic. Some may argue that it’s more poignant this way. But reality is a jerk, and I was not in the mood.
Lol. I don’t know why this riled me up as much as it did. I even shed a couple of angry tears at the end of it. The main redeeming quality that comes to mind about this experience is that Kim Young Kwang is really attractive. Park Bo Young was nice as well. First time seeing either of them. It had some cute scenes here and there, but the ending has mostly made me forget these. Anyway, have any of you here seen this? What did you think? I know there are a lot of people who really liked it. I scrolled through several reviews in different places, and I had a hard time finding anyone who was as offended by it as I was 😂.

EXTRAORDINARY YOU:
I casually watched the first episode (as in the half episode). It didn’t quite grab me, but the fan wall is really tempting me to give it another chance (read: Rowoon is beautiful and I want to see him in action).
(I really did not intend for this to turn into a post about attractive guys.)

MY COUNTRY Ep 1:
My first venture into a proper sageuk. I’m liking it so far.
It is finally starting to feel like fall here. There is something about the cooler weather that puts me in the mood for these types of serious/grand/epic...

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(Cont.) shows and movies.
While I’m at it, I might as well say that Woo Do Hwan is attractive as well.

PEGASUS MARKET:
Behind on this one. I plan to watch it, but it may not be live with the other shows I’m trying to juggle right now.

EDIT: forgot to mention that Ryu Jun Yeol who has a role in LITTLE FOREST (the movie) is also very attractive.

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Just a mention of Woo Do Hwan makes the post about attractive guys.

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I feel the same about On Your Wedding Day. Although, I knew from the get go how the story will end (from the title) but still I thought signed up for a heart-warming & memorable first love ride. All I experience was, like you say, a series of misfortune and bad-timing.

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Oh, good. I’m not alone 😄.

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Awww I’m glad and humbled that my posts have brought on positives for so many fellow Beanies ☺️☺️☺️ My constant fear when spam posting is that I may annoy people 😅😅😱😱😱
I agree that SK knows how to do it right with the more quiet, slower and humble variety shows— maybe that’s also why I love Na PD’s “3 Meals A Day” series as well

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THE GREAT SHOW
TALE OF NOKDU
VAGABOND
MELTING ME SOFTLY
MY COUNTRY
RIVERDALE
LEGACIES
MAYBE NANCY DREW
THE LAST EMPRESS: This is crack. I binge watched it. Like how is choi jin hyuk the first lead but has less screen presence?
Emperor Lee hyuk, this dude is something else. How can he be the villain and hero in one story. How I wish he didn't die. Since being an emperor is all he knows, I'd love to see what he can do without it.
Oh sunny, the last empress. I bow before you
Empress Dowager, this woman is wicked and vile. But funny tho
Princess Ari, I love her. I've found a new child actress to follow. She's incredible. She's in melting me softly,I hope they show more of her.

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Wohooo!! The Last Empress was cracktastic. It was so fun to watch. Royal Hotness Lee Hyuk is still the best flip-flop villain ever!

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That show just doesn't do transition well. Everything is going from 0 to 1000 in a split second. Na Wang Shik's "transformation" is the most WTF scene in my entire TV watching history, and I used to watch US daily soaps where batshit plots and actors switch were almost daily occurance.

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