Let Me Hear Your Song: Episodes 25-28 Open Thread
by missvictrix
It’s time for some confrontation, and it’s actually nice to see our heroine on the offensive. Turns out getting your lost memories back can be pretty empowering — but what our percussionist remembers (and uncovers) complicates many of the relationships she’s been taking at face value.
EPISODES 25-28 WEECAP
Yi-young confronts Maestro Nam about Bucket Hat Baddie, but if confrontations are a theme this week — so are denials. Maestro Nam flatly denies her suspicions of him knowing and/or murdering Bucket Hat Baddie, and negates her arguments.
Yi-young isn’t getting anywhere, so on her next visit, she reveals her full hand and tells Maestro Nam she remembers him from the night of the murder. She knows he was the masked figure that intruded on the warehouse where she and Kim Ian were abducted. She even goes as far as to say that he was faking interest in her all this time just to monitor her. It’s a pretty harsh moment, but Maestro Nam remains cool. His byline is pretty much consistent to everyone that confronts him these days (and there are a lot of them): “Ya think so? Bring me proof.”
There’s more confrontation when the police start to investigate the death of Bucket Hat Baddie. This time it’s Yoon’s turn to deny knowing and/or murdering him — but he doesn’t last long. The footage of Yoon beating Bucket Hat Baddie to a pulp a few episodes back was enough for him to get arrested, and thanks to some strings being pulled in the background, he’s detained for several days as a prime suspect.
Outside of that inconvenient incarceration, Yoon (who’s now known as Do-hoon, his real name) and Yi-young are kept busy sleuthing it out, separate but together. Yoon finds out that Maestro Nam raided Bucket Hat Baddies’ stuff for the top secret pen, while Yi-young finds out that Bucket Hat Baddie left her a “present” at the cafe he frequented. Then Yoon unearths Yu-da, the orchestra gossip, and finds out she not only witnessed but videotaped the death of Bucket Hat Baddie.
Can we talk about that scene for a moment? They revisited it at least four times, and I must have watched it triple that, but I still can’t tell if Maestro Nam threw an intentional “bear swipe” to knock Bucket Hat Baddie down the stairs, or if it was just something that happened in the scuffle. This ambiguity bothers me. If it’s there on purpose, I’ll take it, but is there something I’m missing? It has repercussions for our Maestro!
Though the romance between Yoon and Yi-young is pretty much in hiatus mode, there was a cute scene where he confesses to lying about his name, and says he used it hoping it would jog her memory. Despite still being in the thick of the mystery, I like how when they’re together it’s obvious they’re totally over the past as a barrier to their relationship. Heck, Yoon even chucks the infamous switchblade into a pond, which is pretty much like saying: I love you and don’t care what happened in the past.
Do they need more permission from the story than this to be together? Apparently yes. A sleuthy visit to the retired (and awesome!) conductor reveals that Yi-young and Kim Ian never actually dated. Say what?! The conductor reveals that Kim Ian was tortured over liking her since she was in love with someone else.
So, not only is the I-dated-and-stabbed-your-little-brother weirdness mitigated by the removal of one of these variables, but we’ve got a pretty huge hint to who that crush was. Thanks to cousin Soo-young and her uncharted levels of secretdom, she not only pages through Yi-young’s diary from the previous year (really?), but looks knowingly at the photo of Yoon in there. AS YI-YOUNG’S PAST CRUSH. Ahh, I love this. The whole bit around Yoon/Ian is probably my favorite reveal so far — not because it seems essential to the plot, but because the show kept the secret so well.
As things get charged up near the end of this week’s episodes, it’s pretty satisfying to watch the bad guys get squeezed. Yoon plays them from one side, his father closes in on the other, and with Bucket Hat Baddie’s dying promise that “people aren’t the only things with eyes,” pretty soon all the orchestra higher-ups are squirming. They’re simultaneously pitted against each other, holding onto secrets, revealing their own, or threatening to reveal someone else’s. Lots of details here, but suffice it to say the bad guys are getting badder.
Though Maestro Nam got pretty dark this week, it was Professor Kang and his creepyass smile that actually got to me the most. His stalking and chase of Yi-young was exciting stuff, and the last ten minutes of the episode seemed to build and build until everything came full circle with yet another car accident.
The paralysis produced by the lights of an oncoming car headed straight for you is well-documented in dramaland. Maybe that’s why it was a little hard to take it seriously when Yi-young pushes an unsuspecting pedestrian out of the way and instead gets hit by the car herself. Deus ex machina aside, it did bring together the Yi-young we met in Episode 1, and this time, those oncoming lights triggered a full flashback to the incident last summer. We’ve seen bits of pieces of these scenes ad nauseum, but for some reason it’s super satisfying to see everything finally stitched together.
Did I say satisfying? I’m not actually sure if I’m satisfied with these scenes yet. Someone in a killer car was hellbent on murdering Yi-young and Kim Ian, yes. But the fact that Kim Ian was accidentally stabbed by Yi-young as he tackled her to the ground to save her? It’s not the scuffle I was expecting. It’s either really good or really disappointing; I’m not sure yet.
Either way, Yi-young has just been hit dead-on by an oncoming killer car again, and is in critical condition at the end of the episode. Her aunt and cousin ban Yoon from seeing her, which I highly object to. I know I shouldn’t be, but even after all these episodes I’m still highly suspicious of Yi-young’s family. Maybe they’re just being overprotective, but it comes off as suspicious to me. I mean, the only thing they’ve done for her is to help her suppress her memories.
Anyway, we’ve got one more week of Let Me Hear Your Song left, and a remarkable amount to unpack still. Which is good, in a way — it means we won’t be looking at a final week of filler, and instead, we’ve got a heroine to recover (please no more amnesia!), baddies to expose, and a couple to reunite.
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1 liar song #PuppyNotPuppyLeeJaeWookIsBack
September 17, 2019 at 11:13 PM
I've been pulling my hair out because of this show for the past few weeks due to the very little to no plot progression but I guess the best thing that happened in this show this week was that Ian and Yi-young never dated and Yoon is Yi-young's past crush! I know some people might find the age gap creepy but this weird show and its leads are making it work.
There are so many what ifs such as Yi-young and her cousin being psychos or Yoon being a pyscho big bro serial killer but Maestro Nam being on the dark side since the very beginning is made me sad. This music and grandma loving guy could have been the best character in this show but as the title suggests, this show is Let Me Hear Your Song Jae-rim, and I can already hear his evilness.
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💜🍍☠ Sicarius The Queen of Melonia ☠🍍💜
September 17, 2019 at 11:51 PM
*sp0ils self* so uhm I'm not gonna lie I actually had a thought a while ago or else someone here brought it up that "what if she never dated Ian what if it was Yoon she dated"... so looks like that was right lol.
I got over the age gap a while ago because it fit the dysfunctionality of the show.
I also think YWJ could make it work with most any actress tbh...
*sp0ils herself more* and FINALLY I CAN SAY THIS. I've never trusted Nam or liked him (sorry!) and never cared about him and always thought he was shadier than everyone else and always suspected him, so... guess that paid off?
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egads aka Dame Maggie
September 18, 2019 at 12:18 AM
*raises hand
I always assumed that the relationship with Ian wasn't really true. With kdrama obsession for fate and early connections, etc., that just seemed like a fake out.
I've never trusted her family, as they always seemed to be to invested in her not remembering things from this incident, as well as her childhood accident.
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liar song #PuppyNotPuppyLeeJaeWookIsBack
September 18, 2019 at 2:20 AM
Tbh I don't even trust her family and their decisions but I don't even trust Yi-young's decisions in life either. I guess being dumb runs in their family and they are indeed her blood relatives. HAHAHAHAHA
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💜🍍☠ Sicarius The Queen of Melonia ☠🍍💜
September 18, 2019 at 4:22 AM
Just finished 14. Unnie is shady af wtf. I get why she's blaming Yoon but also hate it and wish she'd go away. Not all of life's problems are just solved by forgetting everything woman.
What you would have your sister an insomniac, with PTSD and panic atta is but not knowing why for the rest of her life just so she doesn't remember on bad thing? Bloody hell.
💜🍍☠ Sicarius The Queen of Melonia ☠🍍💜
September 18, 2019 at 2:50 AM
Ahh was it you! Yes. I mean it wouldn't be the weirdest thing ever to fall in love with your dead brother's girl. But it was kinda weird they only ever addressed the murder being an issue and not Ian and her dating heh.
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liar song #PuppyNotPuppyLeeJaeWookIsBack
September 18, 2019 at 2:19 AM
*whispers* I liked him because it's Song Jae-rim (I trusted the character just because of this I'm dumber than Yi-young). I was thinking this couldn't get more obvious BUT I was fooled. HAHAHA
And I also have a soft spot for YWJ. I'm one of the few people who actually enjoyed the other makjangtastic show of his which is Introverted Boss.
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💜🍍☠ Sicarius The Queen of Melonia ☠🍍💜
September 18, 2019 at 2:24 AM
LMAO SSSONG
I uhm also maybe possibly enjoyed Introverted Boss ... parts of it anyway. I thought it was pretty stupid and badly written overall and I don't remember any of it, but I found some positive notes I'd written on it way back the other day and went *oh shit* lol. It had it's moments. Mainly when YWJ was involved...
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liar song #PuppyNotPuppyLeeJaeWookIsBack
September 18, 2019 at 2:30 AM
That's... surprising. HAHAHA. I enjoyed making fun of that show because of the revenge thing with the female lead's suitor (but the first episode was really good). YWJ was seriously so good in that show so I only remember good things now.
I need to get hit by ToD once Let Me Hear Your Song Jae-rim ends so I can just forget the bad (Song Jae-rim) and the sloooooow parts of this show.
💜🍍☠ Sicarius The Queen of Melonia ☠🍍💜
September 18, 2019 at 2:49 AM
Yes I know lol.
I just remember liking the first four episodes because of YWJ's character and how much I related to him and how thoughtfully he was done. Then they rewrote it at the half way point and it wasn't that good afterwards and yeah.
Hahahahahaha actually episode 13 was the first time I actually felt anything from SJR (I'm so sorry Mary). He's clearly delusional and keeps repeating the lie to himself to make himself believe it more than anyone else and you could really feel it through his wack justification to Yoon. Was it wack and delusional? Yes. Do I care? No. But I understood hahaha.
And yeah gosh is it dragging. It would've been hard to keep it's weird creepy tone for the whole thing though and still be good so it's not really surprising it's dragging hardcore. I think it will end up like Stranger Living In Our House for me. First half: weird crack that shouldn't work. Second Half: ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh could've been so much better and I've already forgotten most of it.
liar song #PuppyNotPuppyLeeJaeWookIsBack
September 18, 2019 at 2:54 AM
This show should end in a weirdly satisfying way with classical music as an icing on top. I don't want any more amnesia and noble idiocy as I've already had my fill this week. HAHAHA
💜🍍☠ Sicarius The Queen of Melonia ☠🍍💜
September 18, 2019 at 4:20 AM
Speaking of the music Song... It's actually really jarring and distracting when it uses a pop song instead of classical. It would be better to just stick to classical.
egads aka Dame Maggie
September 18, 2019 at 5:03 AM
Is this the "enjoyed Introverted Boss despite all its flaws" corner? YWJ was so good, that I didn't care about the rest.
Unfortunately, this current mess lost its zing once YWJ was no longer creepy af.
💜🍍☠ Sicarius The Queen of Melonia ☠🍍💜
September 18, 2019 at 5:10 AM
Oh my gosh @egads there's more of us!!! I never knew!
I keep wondering how I would've wanted this to end if he'd stayed creepy though. Would he be the bad guy? Did I want some tragic messed up love story where she falls for the villain? Did I want them both to be villains? Or anti heroes? or what?
latebloomer
September 18, 2019 at 4:30 AM
I'm sorry, but isn't this kind of a ridiculous after-thought on the part of the show? Because a) she doesn't remember him as a TA, and that was well before her three-month blackout period, b) is DH supposed to have lost HIS memories?, and c) she totally moved on to that loser pop musician who cheated on her. Whatever relationship she and DH had to have been one-sided, because in his mind she has always been his brother's girlfriend and their whole plot arc has been him getting to know her as a person instead of a suspect.
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💜🍍☠ Sicarius The Queen of Melonia ☠🍍💜
September 18, 2019 at 5:08 AM
This show has been running off misdirects from the very beginning so no, I don't think it's new information they made up just now, it's just that the details of the story (Yu Da, her not dating him, her knowing Yoon before hand) that did exist and some were hinted at prior, are not executed in a cohesive way at this point in the show so it's just janky.
I'm not saying the writing is perfect (far from it), but I think it intended to do this from the beginning (Everyone just assumed that her and Ian were dating, there was never any concrete proof in her memories or otherwise other than the pictures, Eun Ja bought up Yoon as a TA, and the show never addressed YY x Yoon being an issue because of the boyfriend thing, only ever because of the murder thing), it just hasn't done it very well.
(although to be fair, it's hard to prove this since it is badly done, and two beanies predicting it isn't exactly solid proof either.)
She never knew DH. He was her teacher. She had a crush on him, it was one sided yes. Ian had a crush on her, but was gonna let them meet. Unless new info comes out next week, Yoon never knew her as her before the accident, and it was never implied he did.
We do unfortunately have to assume that her not remembering Yoon as a TA is directly linked to the accident for whatever reason, and that thus because she doesn't remember her crush, she moved on to the pop musician.
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latebloomer
September 18, 2019 at 8:12 AM
Isn't this like a variation of the "I-knew-you-as-a-child-so-we're-destined-to-be-together" trope? We were about to be connected, but murders and memory loss got in the way. Once that's all cleared up, we can reclaim our destiny.
💜🍍☠ Sicarius The Queen of Melonia ☠🍍💜
September 18, 2019 at 2:20 PM
@lindag oh yeah definitely, especially since they said something along the lines of "everydboDY meeTS for a reASON" this episode. It's still tropey as heck, I just think the trope was planned from the beginning instead of being shoehorned in.
liar song #PuppyNotPuppyLeeJaeWookIsBack
September 18, 2019 at 11:37 PM
@lindag definitely a kind of cute childhood meetup. I think this was already set in stone from the very beginning and the reveal happened in such an anticlimactic way that people will find this trope a lazy one to use. But who could honestly resist YWJ because I couldn't HAHA
Katrina
September 19, 2019 at 9:39 AM
I just wish they hadn't tried to shove his grandmother down everyone's throat, apparently just to give Yi-young a one minute pep talk because loving the grandma didnt make him seem less shady
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liar song #PuppyNotPuppyLeeJaeWookIsBack
September 19, 2019 at 9:58 PM
They even shoved cute grandma down my throat. This show is making me question everyone.
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Katrina
September 19, 2019 at 10:51 PM
right, why drag her into this mess too!
OhSoEnthusiastic
September 21, 2019 at 7:57 PM
How big is the age gap, btw? I wasn't even aware there was one, which says a whole lot about how much I've been paying attention to the story, lol. (Also probably says a lot about how behind I am, lol.)
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liar song #PuppyNotPuppyLeeJaeWookIsBack
September 21, 2019 at 9:20 PM
Yi-young is 27 in the drama and Yoon's age I think wasn't even mentioned. In real life, Sejeong is 23 while Yeon Woo-jin is... 35. The age difference is that big (12 years) but this makjang show is weirdly making it work.
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2 💜🍍☠ Sicarius The Queen of Melonia ☠🍍💜
September 17, 2019 at 11:46 PM
I'm behind so... that says enough I think.n
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egads aka Dame Maggie
September 18, 2019 at 12:19 AM
Me too.
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3 nerdy
September 17, 2019 at 11:52 PM
I don't think I care very much about Maestro Nam being the show's villain. Majority of the show I was actually annoyed at him.
I think my main problem with Maestro Nam is that he really got this job because of his connections.
At first, we were told that someone from poor background simply didn't have opportunities to make it, but as the show progressed Maestro proved to be very unprofessional. He publicly fired people at least 5 times, hired because of his personal connections and simply was a shitty boss. Considering how he leaded on the bitchy violinist, his love for grandma is his only saving grace.
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latebloomer
September 18, 2019 at 8:03 AM
Is he the villain? I think his main villainy is that he's keeping his mouth shut to keep his job. He tried to help Kim Ian and YY escape (although giving them a ride would have been more help), he didn't kill Kim Ian, and one could argue that YYG's death was an accident and self-defense. He hasn't come forward with the truth, but he's not exactly a murderer either. He's been corrupted by ambition, but he did risk a lot to try to save Kim Ian and YY from harm.
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PakalanaPikake
September 18, 2019 at 9:44 AM
@lindag latebloomer,
I agree with you about Yoon Young-gil's death being in self-defense, so far as I can tell. YYG jumped him on the stairs twice, but Secretary Yang arrived too late to film the entire interlude. Given the camera angles, I'm having a hard time wrapping my head around how YYG actually ended up falling over the top of handrails.
It just now occurred to me that Maestro may have fired all those folks at the behest of a bigwig -- like Kang, for instance.
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OhSoEnthusiastic
September 21, 2019 at 7:59 PM
The way he hired Yi Young despite the mistake she made then fired her for the same mistake was sooooooo rage inducing. I eventually let it go, because he's been such a fun character in other respects (something I credit fully to Song Jae Rim's acting), but gosh can he be a jerk.
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4 💜🍍☠ Sicarius The Queen of Melonia ☠🍍💜
September 18, 2019 at 2:25 AM
I'm catching up now so don't mind me if I like ramble whislt live watching on here.
Why the frik was he arrested for 6 days.
Why was half of episode 13 about that.
Why was that important at all.
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latebloomer
September 18, 2019 at 4:39 AM
Kinda seems like the writer has given up on this show. Like, "I hate it, it's not working, let's just get it over with."
Why did YY freak out every time she saw Prof. Kang in the bar? Could he hurt her there in the bar? Did she have a cellphone she could have used to call for backup? And what about Prof. Kang, was he just going to sit there day after day waiting for her to come back? If he was, wasn't it stupid of him to be so obvious and scare her, so he couldn't find out what she was doing there? OK, no, all we're really interested in is a chase scene that ends in her recovering her memories.
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💜🍍☠ Sicarius The Queen of Melonia ☠🍍💜
September 18, 2019 at 4:56 AM
lmao you could be right.
Or she's just not good enough to finish it. It has a lot of directional issues too, with pacing and execution, in this second half particularly. Typical kdrama fair. Start of interesting, flop after episode 8.
Ugh yeah there's little details like that which are getting increasingly more and more wtf worthy. Like they're just riding off Yoon's warning for that I think. I'm also disappointed she didn't agonize over NJW's involvement in it more. Like she just jumped straight to hating him haha
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FlyingTool
September 18, 2019 at 8:20 AM
The really dumb part of the cafe scene is our heroine going there to get secret material critical to a murder NOT checking to see who is in the cafe BEFORE getting the said secret material...and she had already run into Prof. Kang there...beating a dead horse, I know I’ve made my thoughts on her intelligence level pretty clear.
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latebloomer
September 18, 2019 at 8:36 AM
Exactly.
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egads aka Dame Maggie
September 18, 2019 at 8:21 PM
Why did YY (insert pretty much everything YY has done )? Pretty much sums up this drama.
I'm awfully forgiving a lot of times for stupid choices and moves by characters, but this one's lack of even the most basic survival instincts leaves me in awe.
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PakalanaPikake
September 26, 2019 at 2:46 AM
Wait! @yyishere has a cameo in LET ME HEAR YOUR SONG? Is she portraying Maestro Nam's baton?
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YY Chats with Toast Between Bites
September 26, 2019 at 3:43 AM
Gave me quite a turn to find myself doing a cameo of which I have absolutely no recollection....🤤🤤🤤🤤
Kairoskat 💐
September 26, 2019 at 3:51 AM
@yyishere do you have amnesia now 😱
PakalanaPikake
September 26, 2019 at 4:12 AM
@yyishere,
The only reason you don't recall the baton cameo is because Errand Boy Girl's attention has been glued to Cold Hot CEO. ;-)
💜🍍☠ Sicarius The Queen of Melonia ☠🍍💜
September 26, 2019 at 4:21 AM
ASDFGHJKL *compares Yi Young's actions to YY's as a crazy candy*
Cameo seems legit.
Katrina
September 19, 2019 at 9:43 AM
I know! Why does she run out of a public place into dark alleyways I slapped my forehead so hard it left a mark.
Her family needs disowned
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FlyingTool
September 18, 2019 at 8:39 AM
Simplest explanation is that the creative team for this drama has lost whatever vision they had for the opening episodes, and now is thrashing around for a way to finish.
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latebloomer
September 18, 2019 at 12:26 PM
Exactly.
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5 parkchuna 🍉
September 18, 2019 at 2:49 AM
"Thanks to cousin Soo-young and her uncharted levels of secretdom, she not only pages through Yi-young’s diary from the previous year (really?)"
Now I kinda sorta get YY's carefree-ness after recovering from a traumatic year - her family's hiding a boatload of secrets from her. No wonder the girl is so clueless. As someone said last week, now she just barrels head on into whatever situation to get some info as she's that desperate to figure out the truth. Thank god final week is coming as I'm ready for this song to end.
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6 💜🍍☠ Sicarius The Queen of Melonia ☠🍍💜
September 18, 2019 at 4:19 AM
*finishes episode 14*
*...*
*thinks about sharing longer analysis post*
*thinks about ranting about the Unnie for 500 words*
*wtfs*
And that's why you don't run with knives, kids!
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FlyingTool
September 18, 2019 at 8:29 AM
Oh go ahead and rant and post, if nothing else it will make the rest of us happier we invested a chunk of our lives in this? And it might give you some release too.
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Katrina
September 19, 2019 at 9:46 AM
Well at least you can come up with 500 words the cousin (whole family really) makes me rage/sputter incoherently.
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PakalanaPikake
September 26, 2019 at 2:58 AM
@katrina,
I'm with you. Auntie has been on my black list since she first started smacking around Yi-young and her cousin. She is do darned unpleasant much of the time that I cannot stand her. Doc Cousin ain't much better, especially because of the lengths she went to to prevent Yi-young from remembering the span of time impacted by the accident. Samchoon struck me as being really caring towards his niece.
I was convinced that they weren't Yi-young's real relatives, and that the accident that claimed her parents' lives when she was 5 years old was somehow related to the bad stuff brewing at Shin Young.
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💜🍍☠ Sicarius The Queen of Melonia ☠🍍💜
September 26, 2019 at 4:15 AM
OMO MAYBE SHE WAS KIDNAPPED.
We could make this drama a whole lot more tropey and a whole lot more interesting ya know...
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Katrina
September 26, 2019 at 8:25 AM
Yeah. And what was up withholding her
Own Diary from her the one that had Do-hoons picture showing she knew him fro. Before. Ugh!
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PakalanaPikake
September 26, 2019 at 1:15 PM
@katrina,
It made me mad as heck -- after I got over the confusion of being trolled by Yi-young's statement that the tale she was relating was not a love story. Grrr.
After a while, I figured I couldn't really take anything she said at face value because of her compromised memory.
Katrina
September 26, 2019 at 2:07 PM
It just got a little blah
Which is to bad- I enjoyed it and finished it which is more than I can say about alot of shows but it didnt end as well as it started which is a pity
7 Kurama
September 18, 2019 at 5:01 AM
The hat guy was right, at least he knows that he is a bad guy, Chief Nam should take notes! His poverty doesn't justify murders.
The aunt and the cousin are pretty boring. If they let YY recover her memories just after this accident and let her say the truth to the police, they could aske for a autopsy and an investigation. Now, they just blame Yoon.
When Professor Song said YY was not in love with Ian, I was sure there would have a connection with Yoon!
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8 aeryn_lane
September 18, 2019 at 5:38 AM
First, I just wanted to say I fully appreciate the discussions and analyses here on dramabeans especially relative to a certain other drama forum where everyone loves Maestro Nam and believes he's a victim while Yoon/Dohoon is a creepy deranged stalker. Yeah okay 🙄
Anyway, I don't think Yiyoung's family is shady. I think this is their way of trying to "protect" her, which I, like most, think is ridiculous but I doubt there's anything nefarious there. It's more typical dumb family-will-cover-up-anything-to-protect-their-loved-one characterization.
I had my suspicions that Ian and Yiyoung didn't actually date from the start but the reveal that she had been crushing on Dohoon since her college days was a pleasant surprise. He obviously doesn't remember that she used to be one of the students in the class he TA'd for but her not remembering him despite clearly having strong enough feelings to constantly reject Ian- I think it's supposed to be explained by her memory issues, that her mind blocked out everything related with Ian including his brother. I don't know, that's the best answer I can come up with.
I've enjoyed the drama despite the handful of questionable plotholes and character developments and I'm looking forward to the end finally in sight!
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parkchuna 🍉
September 18, 2019 at 6:25 AM
i didn't like or dislike Maestro Nam despite him giving off shady vibes and wanted to be sympathetic to him, but now i just want to smack his head AND send his ass off to jail. Sure he had a poor childhood, but so does half the world and not everyone turns to crime to get ahead in life. He not only got the job of his dreams undeservedly, he had the audacity to be arrogant with his coworkers too.
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aeryn_lane
September 18, 2019 at 5:04 PM
I felt similarly about Maestro Nam. He's no sociopath but like bucket hat guy said to him- he refuses to admit that the things he's done to get to where he is today make him a scumbag and he still tries to justify Ian's death by telling himself that he came from nothing and did what he had to do to succeed in life. No, dude, you didn't have to involve yourself with someone as shady as Professor Kang. Up until Yiyoung and Dohoon entered the picture, he was living his life comfortably, enjoying the fruits of his labor so to speak so he gets no sympathy from me for whatever he has coming to him in the last episodes.
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zzthorn
September 18, 2019 at 6:25 AM
I haven't read any drama forum's other than Dramabeans, but, I do have compassion for Maestro Nam in that his intentions to save Ian were there even though he messed that up. And the scuffle with the bucket hat guy was also not a murder he planned but more of an accidental result of the scuffle. He does seem to be a pathological liar though as he constantly denies involvement in anything bad. I think he does have responsibility he needs to face up to, and I am hoping that he does turn himself in so he can be redeemed in the eyes of some of the viewers. Afterall, if they can turn that horrible, bitchy, evil violinist woman into a person who isn't all bad, then they should allow Maestro Nam a chance, too.
But, all in all, I will be glad when this ends next week as I don't think I can get through any more of this show than one more week's worth of frustration. I don't even like the main couple either.
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aeryn_lane
September 18, 2019 at 5:23 PM
Yeah, don't bother with other forums. Not worth the time.
The scenes with his grandma made me feel kinda sympathetic toward Maestro Nam, as well as his comment about Ian being his only friend but actions speak louder than words and everything he's done to cover up Ian's death has dissolved most of those feelings away. I doubt he'll turn himself in. He's gotten in too deep. I don't think he'll suddenly confess his crimes. I think he'll get his but only because Dohoon and Co. find the evidence to nail him and Kang.
I never disliked Eunju. Sure, she's whiny and needy af and rather unscrupulous but she's not evil. Her desperation for success never led her to aid and abet in murder. Despite what she says to Yiyoung, I don't think she actually hates her. I think she's more annoyed by Yiyoung than anything else. I'm just disappointed that her character was so one dimensional.
I wasn't on board with the main couple either but at some point I stopped caring about the messed up nature in which he reentered her life and I got over their age gap and just enjoyed their chemistry. But I'm with you, I'm glad it's coming to an end. Finally.
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latebloomer
September 18, 2019 at 8:08 AM
Actually, I'm not sure that he doesn't remember her from back then. The way he said, "Yes" quickly, then "No," then turned away and grimaced, suggested that he did notice her back then and maybe even was interested in her but didn't act on it. And then she turned up as his brother's seeming girlfriend and possible murderer. And now he knows she isn't either one.
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💜🍍☠ Sicarius The Queen of Melonia ☠🍍💜
September 18, 2019 at 2:27 PM
I thought he was just being sarcastic lmao
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aeryn_lane
September 18, 2019 at 8:13 PM
Agreed. He said yes at first but was just kidding. If you watch the previous episode, she asks him if he was a TA at the music college (I forget the name) and he just looks at her and says yes and asks why. I don't believe he actually remembered her being in his class. Not all teachers remember all their students, especially if he was just an assistant.
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OhSoEnthusiastic
September 21, 2019 at 7:49 PM
I'm not caught up enough to comment on the Maestro's involvement in the crime or any other potentially nefarious deeds he might have gotten up to, but I have honestly liked him as a character better than I have Yoon.
1) Yoon Was stalking Yi Young in the beginning. Moving in near her, showing up randomly where she was like it was just on accident, taking her places he knew could be traumatizing/would trigger old memories, and didn't he go into her apartment and snoop once himself, or am I misremembering that? He was creepy, and I didn't like it. Now though I just find him boring, and he and Yi Young's relationship boring. They're both just...boring.
2) Song Jae Rim is just putting in a better performance than Yeon Woo Jin, in my opinion, and it makes me enjoy seeing his character on screen. Whether he's evil or misunderstood or whatever, he's at least been intriguing and kind of fun and has some personality to him.
All that being said, I'm pretty much over this drama at this point and not going to finish it, so my thoughts on both characters don't really matter, lol.
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9 OhSoEnthusiastic
September 18, 2019 at 4:42 PM
Still behind (4 new-numbering-system eps), still think this show is ridiculous, but still not quite ready to quit. Although who knows. That could change, lol.
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OhSoEnthusiastic
September 18, 2019 at 4:44 PM
Actually, now I'm kind of wondering if I Should drop it and just read the open thread recaps here, lol.
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Ally
September 21, 2019 at 11:38 AM
I’ve officially dropped this. Just reading recaps for the rest—so you’ll have company.
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10 aeryn_lane
September 18, 2019 at 8:10 PM
After actually watching the latest episodes, I have to say, Yiyoung is almost unbearably annoying. She does and says reckless things despite knowing full well how dangerous things/certain people are yet she does it anyway. It's really no wonder her aunt and sister treat her like a frail dandelion because she IS. Being sweet natured and kind is one thing, but she is incredibly dense most times. I'm gonna exclude her almost being hit by a car half a dozen times because we all know that's typical kdramas foolishness- seeing the car coming and just standing there, wide eyes, waiting for impact 🙄 but the way she just got into Kang's car and for the love of god, she couldn't listen to Dohoon for once and wait for him and go retrieve the thing bucket hat left her together? It's become much less endearing with every passing episode and now it's just frustrating.
Based on how guilty he felt after being berated by Yiyoung's family, I'm gonna guess that even after everything is settled and the bad guys get theirs, I think he'll leave her. I think it's why in the first episode, her voiceover says again and again that this isn't a love story.
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aeryn_lane
September 18, 2019 at 8:16 PM
Oh and let's never forget that she actually stole the pen from Dohoon to give to bucket hat without so much as looking at what was on it. That was laughably stupid.
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OhSoEnthusiastic
September 21, 2019 at 7:38 PM
Yi Young's lack of awareness has been one of the most frustrating aspects of this drama for me, even though I've mostly managed to coast through the episodes on sheer willpower and purposeful ignorance regarding the many flaws, because I just haven't cared that none of it really makes sense. But now I'm at a place where it's not really even fun to watch anymore, and that's usually the death toll for a drama for me.
I don't trust the 'this isn't a love story' voiceover though. This drama doesn't strike me as interesting and well-written enough to do something like that.
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PakalanaPikake
September 26, 2019 at 1:42 PM
@aerynlane,
I have to agree that, as the drama has worn on in the last half, I've come to like Yi-young less and less. I used to think of her as plucky and persistent in the aftermath of a serious accident. But lately she's done such stupid stuff as playing in traffic, ignoring Yoon's warnings about Bucket Hat, shooting her mouth off & tipping her hand to Prof. Kang, running around with
scissorsan open switchblade, and stealing the pen from Ian's suit pocket -- without even inspecting the thing -- that I've become alienated. I used to be able to give her a pass because of memory impairment in the beginning, but now when she jumps to conclusions and accuses other characters without any solid evidence, I find her obnoxious. Maybe it runs in the family, because I don't like her aunt one bit. Or maybe it's just a case of Female Lead Characterization Collapse -- a virulent screenwriting syndrome that is endemic to Kdrama. It incapacitates characters, causing them to lose their dimensionality as the finale draws nigh. Female leads start out strong and finish as shadows of their former selves -- or end up as mere plot devices.Required fields are marked *
FlyingTool
September 26, 2019 at 2:03 PM
“ Female Lead Characterization Collapse -- a virulent screenwriting syndrome that is endemic to Kdrama.”
Perfectly said.
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💜🍍☠ Sicarius The Queen of Melonia ☠🍍💜
September 26, 2019 at 2:18 PM
This drama is lowkey conflicting sometimes.
I agree that it has the loss of dimensionality in just about everything and what was good became bland. And yet YY has always made "stupid" decisions, and been fairly consistent in how she acts and reacts to things (not perfect, I know these characters aren't perfect, and there is more of a case for some loosing consistency than others (e.g. Ju Wan)but still at the start of the last episode I was going, oh yeah, that's in character)
I think its just that before, at the beginning, the motivation was more obvious for everyone, and with the collapse of the plot in particular, suddenly all the character's lost their momentum and justification as well. I would blame the plot's weakness for any character weakness I think, making it more a case of Plot and Story Collapse.
I think I can see what the writer intended with all the characters, and tried to maintain it through the dragging finale, but failed.
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PakalanaPikake
September 26, 2019 at 3:01 PM
@sicarius,
Yes, Yi-young was doing dumb stuff early in the show, so she has at least been consistent. I guess I just cannot take it any longer, especially when she's been smug about it.
I agree, Plot and Story Collapse is the underlying structural failure in this case as the entire story has gradually sunk out of sight like Atlantis.
Then there's the Heroine Runs and Falls Down Trope that I hate with a passion. I wanted to scream, even as I understood that it's entirely possible to slip and fall on a muddy road on a rainy night while trying to escape from people who want to kill you. The replays of that scene, and of her falling down the hill in the rain, and on the way down from the cable car, were particularly annoying.
That said, I'm sticking it out to see what happens in the end.
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💜🍍☠ Sicarius The Queen of Melonia ☠🍍💜
September 26, 2019 at 8:18 PM
😂 Now imagine if that smugness was expanded upon and she was really a sociopath lmao
Yes the ending got VERY tropey. I think I would've been more annoyed had I not just finished Arthdal four days before.
11 OhSoEnthusiastic
September 21, 2019 at 8:09 PM
Okay, so I'm definitely dropping this now. I was already ready to do so, then I fully read the recap and all the comments, and that's confirmed it. I'm over this drama and would rather spend my time on something else, lol.
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