Team Dramabeans: What we’re watching
by DB Staff
So, what are we all watching this week?
What kept you reaching for more (or agonizing when there was no more), and what made you want to throw your remote through the screen? Time to weigh in…
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Designated Survivor: 60 Days: Episode 4 is my favorite yet, mostly because it’s 60 minutes long (short!) and we finally get more of Weasel Oppa aka Lee Jun-hyuk who seems to have flipped roles again and is playing a shady guy this time around. I can’t wait to see him manipulate public sentiment to steal the limelight from our nerdy president who can barely even inspire confidence from his own staff. And though I hate watching shows where clueless, honest people fight a losing battle because their enemies are unprincipled, smart crooks, I love watching a good, twisty fight even more. So bring on the roller coaster, 60 Days.
Angel’s Last Mission: Love: Y’know, last week I kept thinking that this show is like your classic rom-com from a decade ago: cute premise, not-so-good execution, chaebol with a nasty temper, love interest with the patience of an angel (literally) to change said temper, horrible extended family trying to steal the company, and a last minute happy ending that doesn’t make sense. If this aired in 2005, it would’ve been a hit. The second lead girl is even likeable! You don’t see that a lot, even now. But it’s a decade too late to be original. I don’t want to hate on the show though, because I like that the “frosty heir” who needed intervention was a lady, and amazingly acted at that. I can name a dozen meh shows I’ve watched for an Oppa, but we don’t get a lot of them for Unnis in dramaland, because they’re not always given this huge a spotlight or role to work with. So I’m glad this show exists, because Shin Hye-sun’s Yeon-seo was perfection. (I was honestly a bit scared when she kneeled in front of the altar and challenged God with such haughtiness!) I think we can all agree that we watched it for her. Though I still don’t understand that ending LOL and I’ll peep the final recap comments for answers.
Lookout: Oh man, I’m just at that part where the episode ends on Do-han smirking in Yoon Seung-ro’s face after getting him to contact Detective Nam and putting their evil deeds on record. Do-han looks unhinged and I’m screaming IT’S TOO EARLY TO GLOAT!!! First of all, Yoon Seung-ro isn’t in jail yet. Secondly, Detective Nam hasn’t agreed to be a witness yet. And most importantly, there are five episodes left, so obviously Yoon Seung-ro isn’t gonna go down easy. That’s like, basic K-drama logic. Genius lawyer and master manipulator he may be, but my K-drama wisdom beats Do-han this time.
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One Spring Night: It’s over. *moment of silence* But it was such a lovely drama, and came to such a beautiful conclusion! I’m entirely satisfied. I was nervous for a little while there (as were a lot of people with Pretty Noona PTSD), especially towards the last few episodes, but in the end I’m glad I trusted this story. The good-hearted people found their strength and faced their obstacles with honesty and maturity. And the jerks of the drama? I got a kick out of them getting drunk together in the middle of the day, blaming each other for their problems as a way to save their egos. I won’t miss them, but I will miss our lovely couple, Jung-in’s sisters (that group hug!), Ji-ho’s parents that made me teary the whole drama long, and of course, little Eun-woo.
If We Were a Season: Based on recent Beanie recommendations, I watched this lovely one-episode drama that totally flew under my drama radar back in 2017. Chae Soo-bin and Jang Dong-yoon were lovely here, and the drama told a well-crafted story for only an hour long tale. While I could have easily taken another 15 hours tacked onto that, to quote Jane Austen it was “perfect in being too short.” I wanted more — but I actually like that feeling for a change.
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Tags: Angel's Last Mission: Love, Designated Survivor: 60 Days, Lookout, One Spring Night, What We're Watching
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1 LT is Irresistibly Indifferent and reminded of the slow march of death
July 13, 2019 at 4:07 AM
What am I watching?
As of today... nothing. Zero. Zilch. No live airing shows. Strange feeling.
This week I finished up Angel's Last Mission, which was a glorious YA mess to the end. Since Shin Hye-sun was utterly transcendent throughout, I think it's worth watching a few episodes just to see her. I can only hope she gets a truly great script next so she can shine in something that isn't so... silly.
Also finishing this week was One Spring Night, which I enjoyed a great deal and am glad I watched. Was it perfect? No. Did it have frustrating parts? Yes. But it was a high quality, well written drama.
I have my issues with Kim Eun as a writer, in particular her tendency to spend too long on external pressures and not long enough on the core relationship itself, but I don’t think anybody else is exploring the intersection of tradition and modernity in Korea the way she is. The way in which the shows poke the pressure points between Confucianism and individualism, the family and the personal is really deft. Frustrating, but deft.
Faced with a bout of gastro and no airing shows to catch up on, I started Best Hit aka Hit The Top. It's mostly fun as long as I don't think about it too deeply. I wish they'd put some more thought into the whole 'father' thing because I get the feeling they liked it as a premise but didn't really know how to deal with it while keeping the whole thing fun. Still, it's a perfect show for a rainy, dreary day when you feel sick as anything.
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LT is Irresistibly Indifferent and reminded of the slow march of death
July 13, 2019 at 4:10 AM
Taking a break from Best Hit and wanting something a bit more melo, I watched the first episode of Uncontrollably Fond on Netflix and... holy hell that show is boring. I couldn't make it through one episode. How do others feel about it?
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frabbycrabsis loves KBS Drama Specials
July 13, 2019 at 4:17 AM
I had the same issue. I somehow made it to the end of the first episode... And then the next was backstory, and who cares about that.
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Kafiyah Bello
July 13, 2019 at 4:34 AM
Uncontrollably Fond is a HOT Mess of a show. I finished it, but man, lol. Also it was Kim Woo Bin's last drama before his cancer, so there is that.
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Karmen ~ 🍜🏢🎭 ~ 📚☔🦋 ~ 🪂🌱💘 ~ ✨🍊💫 ~
July 13, 2019 at 6:14 AM
I dropped it after the first episode, too.
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sph_7
July 13, 2019 at 8:07 AM
I finished it for the leads
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kiara
July 13, 2019 at 8:18 AM
I like writer Lee Kyung-hee (NICE GUY) but I just couldn't get through UF. Suzy is so bad in the acting department and melo is not a genre for bad/weak actors.
I'mlooking forward to JTBC's CHOCOLATE with Yoon Kye-sang and Ha Ji-won.
Yoon had sizzling chemistry with Jeon Do-yeon in GOOD WIFE so here is hoping for a chemistry hot enough to melt chocolate.
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ash27
July 13, 2019 at 8:43 AM
Oh yeah, that show was terrible. I remember making it through a few episodes back when it was airing, and I think I skimmed recaps for the remaining episodes, but I couldn't stick it out.
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Barbrey
July 13, 2019 at 8:47 AM
Worst k drama I ever watched (most of). I came back to it for KWB long after it's fail date (episode 1). A lot blamed it on Suzy but the script was honestly terrible.
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Athena
July 13, 2019 at 8:48 AM
It was a hot mess. It was like being dragged through glass. Kim Woo Bin was awesome and if you hang in there through the whole mish mash of bull hockey, it will make you cry buckets. I swear that show gave me depression and ptsd.
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egads aka Dame Maggie
July 13, 2019 at 8:53 AM
The Kim Woo Bin dramas I've seen, I have hated. Like, not just disliked, but actively found them to be just as you describe, like being dragged through glass. And yet, he is so compellingly fantastic. Someone give me the name of good, enjoyable to watch Kim Woo Bin drama.
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Athena
July 13, 2019 at 9:14 AM
Sorry, 220 dramas later and I have no title for you on that. ^^
amara
July 13, 2019 at 9:27 AM
school 2013 i guess if you haven't seen it. he was pretty good in the movie about him being a mob boss son (i forgot..) also i looove white christmas but idk if you have seen it or liked it.
he's gotten really way better over the years and it's such a shame he got so sick. if he wants, i hope he comes back! he's like the only model actor that doesnt make me want to smack my head against the pavement.
egads aka Dame Maggie
July 13, 2019 at 9:31 AM
@boughtabride, he's in White Christmas too? I really do need to watch that one. So many of my favorites seem to be in it. I have a fondness for model turned actor Kim Young Kwang. I think he's done okay for himself.
amara
July 13, 2019 at 9:54 AM
he is! KYK said this thing yrs ago and he apologized which i think is good but ever since i've been tainted and he has been my enemy. i think he's beautiful tho and i am glad he is getting roles...surprisingly i loved this dumb little show he was in Plus Nine Boys.
everryyyyy model-turned-actor is in it. esom, hong jong hyun, kwb, kyk, lee soo hyuk...it's actually a really good show. i havent' seen it in a while but it's haunting and cold and very crazy. for such an old show and something so short i'm surprised at how effective it was esp considering all the young'ns weren't experienced!
missjb
July 13, 2019 at 6:47 PM
I can't watch his other drama before UF so I can't suggest you. I get through heirs and
school 2013 and end up dissapoint. he is improved through UF for me.
Delurker
July 15, 2019 at 4:27 PM
I think the only Kim Woo Bin drama I have ever watched was Gentleman's Dignity back in the day, and he was just a secondary character, though still he made it memorable. I don't know if it is a drag-through-glass type of drama; I did enjoy most of it (except one character's constant ugly-crying), but then I was young and innocent... :-)
kristinc
July 13, 2019 at 10:01 AM
LOL! UF was the very first K-Drama I ever watched and therefore has a special place in my heart. I came for KWB and stayed for Im Ju Hwan. Because of UF I looked up IJH's other works and went down a K-Drama rabbit hole from which I have never recovered. It might be terrible but I will always love the Dramafever ad for UF that led me here.
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Athena
July 13, 2019 at 10:19 AM
It was also one of my early shows, but not the first. I probably couldn't get through it today, but back then I was not as jaded as I am now. There are some completely heart rending scenes delivered by KWB that are unforgettable.
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kiara
July 13, 2019 at 11:30 AM
Im Ju-hwan has that staying factor even as a side character.
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OldLawyer
July 13, 2019 at 11:58 AM
I never even made it through the first episode of UNCONTROLLABLY FOND.
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purplefall
July 13, 2019 at 11:07 PM
Sorry that everyone in DB hated the show. I absolutely love it! It was so cliche and man the plot was so predictable, it almost feels like a remake of a 90s-2000s kdrama. But I think everyone's acting just touched my heart, especially Kim Woo Bin! All the emotions were raw, sincere, and relatable. Even Suzy's character made sense to me. I cried my eyes out with this show and my heart still aches every time I think about the ending. Not a lot of shows can do that to me so UF definitely has a special place in my heart.
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Sodam
July 20, 2019 at 4:15 AM
IMO It's the genre that they hated. I think they're watching it for the sake of the actors only. How can you watch any Lee Kyung Hee's drama if you don't like her (melodrama) genre? It's like you can't stand soccer but you force yourself to watch it just because there's someone you like playing it on TV. This writer is famous for her tragic love stories so you better stay away from her works if only like romcom or thriller. Just saying.
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purplefall
July 20, 2019 at 8:24 PM
That explains a lot! I almost skipped the show because everyone here hated so much. I come across a cut of UF on Youtube and immediately fell in love with it. For a long time I was confused why someone would hate UF wholeheartedly while I just keep coming back to it. Thanks for the perspective!
Vespertyne29
July 13, 2019 at 8:27 PM
I have no interest in Angel's Last Mission (dropped after 2 or 3 episodes - it's just not my cup of tea), but I've been eye-balling One Spring Night - that's on netflix, right?
I don't mind a romance, as long as it's good. I'm still looking for another Because This is My First Life, which I adored.
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LT is Irresistibly Indifferent and reminded of the slow march of death
July 13, 2019 at 9:06 PM
One spring Night is on Netflix but, while it concerns a romance, I don't see the romance as being the most important part of it. It's more about people navigating Korean society and how women, in particular, have to work within this huge systemic framework of traditional expectations. Basically, it's Pretty Noona if the writer didn't set herself up for failure by trying to tell a story that was too ambitious.
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Vespertyne29
July 13, 2019 at 9:25 PM
I thought that BTIMFL also hit on women in the workplace and the discrimination (and blatant sexual harassment) they face, so it sounds as if I'll enjoy OSN.
Never watched Pretty Noona (who brings me food? or something like that), because of so many reviewers hating how it ended, and because the premise just didn't attract me.
I'm really struggling with Korean dramas right now - I've watched a lot of the "classics," and enjoyed them, but I've been pretty disappointed in almost every new Kdrama I've watched in 2019, even when it starts out great. There just seems to be a consistent trend of dramas failing to live up to the initial episodes. The one exception was Haechi, which I loved, and which managed to still remain excellent despite what had to have caused major rewrites due to Go Ara's injury that caused her to miss weeks of filming towards the end of the show. It's really too bad about that, as I imagine it would have been even better than it was. And also, much lighter fare, but I thought My Strange Hero was pretty consistently good. And although it ended up being a bit less fabulous than the beginning and middle, I did love Her Private Life, which was worth watching just for the early sizzling chemistry between the two leads, and the gloriously sexy Kim Jae-wook, who should immediately have another leading role!
But so many of the others ended up fizzling out or with a disappointing ending, like He is Psychometric, Kill It, and The Crowned Clown.
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2 Radily
July 13, 2019 at 4:11 AM
Designated Survivor: 60 Days
I don’t know if this is an unpopular opinion but I think that Moo Jin’s answer at the cliffhanger was the right decision to make: sticking to honesty will prevent himself from being blackmailed by his opponents whoever it may be, ironically, if he’s eventually returning to academia this will certainly make it easier. On another note, I appreciate that literally most of the characters are shady in their own right: this is a truthful reflection of the real world. Our main character is where the dramatisation is: it’ll be interesting to see how the ‘reel’ world reacts to his character (pun intended) going forward.
Search Query: WWW
The drama has been an absolute hit with all three main romances (yes all three, even the main one which seems to get a lot of flack: it does delve into attitudes on marriage which is a rather unique obstacle for a relationship, though I feel that Morgan’s adoption issue really came out of left field), but I can’t really say the same for the supporting characters with the Da In reveal which threatens to turn into some lame conflict as we approach the penultimate week. Depending on how that gets resolved, my opinion on the show could change. Crossing my fingers that the good writing will prevail!
My Absolute Boyfriend
Hotel del Luna starts this weekend and I can jump from this show to that so that I can continue to see Yeo Jin Goo on screen … but I do have to admit that him starring in a show could indirectly imply that the show has no substance and requires him to carry the script. In his adult role repertoire, no other show other than Circle has been outstanding or even decent. But maybe there is a pattern: so far it’s been 3 bad shows, 1 good show and with the ending of this drama another 3 bad shows done. Will his next show be great? Only two more months and we’ll find out.
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agoodheart
July 13, 2019 at 6:43 AM
I also really like that the main romance is the most realistic one. I know one couple who thought they would have to break up because one wants kids and the other doesn't, they're still together though so I'm really curious about how this show will handle real issue like this in relationships. Agree that the Da-in reveal is so lame.
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kiara
July 13, 2019 at 8:51 AM
I love Yeo Jin-goo to pieces but I skipped some of his dramas.
I think he is experimenting with different genres in the lead role which is a good thing to do at his age.
He was excellent in the first half of THE CROWNED CLOWN when he was given more to work with.
I don't know what to expect from HOTEL DEL LUNA but I'll check it out.
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amara
July 13, 2019 at 10:04 AM
i agree with you because i think he knows that lying is such a major consequence. also you're totally right about the dramatization of him. he's the anomaly and absurdity which in a more normal context it would be the other way around. in a way he's an antagonist in this setting which is perhaps why so many people find him offputting.
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froyo
July 13, 2019 at 11:31 AM
i just finished My Absolute Boyfriend and *sighs* the last 4 eps are messy i think the writers try to make it "complicated" when its just a simple drama and make it annoying.
Glad you mentioned Circle because that was the best drama tht Yeo Jingoo choose to play. that was a rare ganre in kdrama land (sci-fi) but everything was great.
im kinda expected Hotel del Luna because i like him
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OldLawyer
July 13, 2019 at 11:59 AM
I too am waiting for HOTEL DEL LUNA to post its first episode.
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3 Dorotka
July 13, 2019 at 4:13 AM
This week I finished Let's Eat 3 which I wasn't able to finish last year. And I'm so happy I found the time to go back to it! This is my favourite one from the three shows, the writing felt the most compact... and with the most depth.
I liked that we went to the origins of our foodie Dae Young and found out how he started blogging and who was his great teacher who started his passion for food. I also liked that when these two meet later in life during difficult times, their past frendship helps them to move on and find joy again... especially in eating 😄😄
Though, to be honest, what I loved the most was the story of the sisters. The bratty Seo Yeon grew on me and at the end of the final episode I just wished her all the love she was craving for.
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Dorotka
July 13, 2019 at 4:15 AM
As for the rest of the shows I'm watching... I'm a bit bitchy these days... so... slightly bitchy comments 😉
Angel - Apparently Nina was the only sane person. The rest... a lot of nonsense and Noble Idiocy. Though I guess it is not a totally wasted time because of brilliant Shin Hye Sun... and her cute moments with Angel.
Absolute Boyfriend - finally dropped. No Shin Hye Sun to save the nonsense.
Spring Night - I didn't get much the Big Problem in the penultimate episode, but I'm happy it didn't pull out Pretty Noona on us. Still, I somehow feel it lacked depth (and more songs on OST 😆). My favourite character remains Young-jae.
Www - There is a cute, makjang and sacharine love... but I prefer the relationships between the girls... and I also quite like the Baro's office employees and Brian. Though I'm even more interested in the search portals, the questions it poses and the strategies (and contra strategies). Pity the show gives time to those parts in a reverse proportion lately.
Before We Get Married - I'm not sure the Big Past Trauma between Ke Huan and his ex-girlfriend was necessary, they have enough problems between them to call it quits. Sister is still awesome. And so is Kefei, the best friend ever.
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Beverly
July 13, 2019 at 11:45 AM
I wasnt a fan of that storyline in Before We Get Married either. I agree I dont think they needed it. Plus, it is not something that automatically makes her a bad person.
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OldLawyer
July 13, 2019 at 12:06 PM
I really do no see why Nina had to 'take responsibility' for what the rest of her family did- given that when she finally found out she asked them to stop. That was just stupid. So I am not si sure about her sanity either. But Shin Hye-sun was simply luminous throughout this drama and that made ANGEL very well worth watching.
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Dorotka
July 13, 2019 at 12:20 PM
I was refering to her calling the police and Dan etc. I also think her decision to become a ballet teacher was wise and I took it as a sign she is now her own person now, an adult. And she finally looked relaxed... and happy.
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MeSaya
July 15, 2019 at 4:37 AM
@Dorotka
Don't worry, we have some days (or month or monthS, where we are allowed to be bitchy at dramas, whatever and wherever the drama is coming from). Sometimes, I am too, listening or taking note to the critics rather than spending times watching something that will only annoy or put my anxiety level higher. Or, kind of validating if there is any same perspective out there in seeing the series/movie.
Oh, you drop Absolute Boyfriend because of the nonsense?
Well, it means I will drop it as well.
Search Query: www
My reason to watch it is the same with you, Baro's environment and search portal's business. Since I work in media, I really want to know what people think about portal & digital business at large. It's interesting and sometimes, quite amusing.
Others I don't watch because I know I will just be mad at the drama, even though I really like Shin Hye Sun's acting or I was a fan of boy group Infinite where L is one of the members.
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4 Kairoskat 💐
July 13, 2019 at 4:16 AM
Perfume!
Still funny. Still touching. Still tugging my heart. Jae Hee = Ye Rin is now kinda busted. Nearly everyones knows her now. Yi Do's secretary already knows that Jae hee and Ye Rin are the same person and has been supporting her. Jae Hee's husband now knows and he wants her back (how dare he!!!). Min Suk somewhat knows but thinks its a nightmare. Yi Do also sees clues but thinks it's too scifi to be believable. 4 people and 4 different reactions to same situation. Interesting.
Looking forward to see why did he faint at the end of ep24! Please be a good reason drama! Chaebal! 😆
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egads aka Dame Maggie
July 13, 2019 at 8:30 AM
You know who I really want to know? Her daughter. I hope they delve further this relationship because they both got a very unique look into the lives of each other that mothers and daughters don't usually get.
Please end well show. Don't muck it up.
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Kairoskat 💐
July 13, 2019 at 11:17 AM
I'm liking how the mother-daughter relationship is handled so far. They have many moments. Jin Kyung is supportive of her mum's decision to divorce her dad, to work and achieve her dream, however she is also not afraid to voice out her opinion when her mum wanted to quit half way.
The reason Jae Hee is still in Korea is actually Jin Kyung, even when she wanted to leave, she invited Jin Kyung to join her. But Jin Kyung chided mum for not pulling through as she said she would and succumbing to pressure. I liked that. Jin Kyung was harsh in the moment, but it was from a good heart. And it snapped Jae Hee back to her senses.
Please don't spoil this show! Please give a beautiful ending to Jinkyung-Jaehee's journey.
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Athena
July 13, 2019 at 8:52 AM
This is the show I wait for every week. The acting is good, it is cute and funny but I think has a real message. I like how she got real in the last episode. I feel her uncertainty and I can hardly wait to see how things will resolve.
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5 seoul_searcher
July 13, 2019 at 4:17 AM
www: I look forward to this one every week because of a certain fan girl and her actor. Also ga gyeong’s relationship with her husband has been such an interesting watch. They’re so strange but cute.
30 but 17: watched this when I started angels last mission which has been on hold, didn’t expect to find this lovable gem of a show. There is nothing new about the plot points but it’s directed with so much heart and warm familial feelings that it makes me feel fuzzy after every ending. Currently up to 15.
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frabbycrabsis loves KBS Drama Specials
July 13, 2019 at 4:25 AM
I'm glad people are still discovering Thirty But Seventeen - to me, it's the closest we have to a perfect romcom, and it's a new favourite of mine! 😆
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froyo
July 13, 2019 at 11:34 AM
30 but 17 is one of my fav drama last year. great fairytale-like drama with adorable characters. its your usual romcom drama but everything is so beautiful :))
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OldLawyer
July 13, 2019 at 12:17 PM
30 BUT 17 is a show everyone should want to watch. And if you can stand a long weekend family drama you can also watch Shin Hye-sun in her 'breakout" role as one half of the 'Golfer couple' in FIVE CHILDREN, playing opposite Sung Hoon as the pro golfer.
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seoul_searcher
July 13, 2019 at 2:23 PM
I’ve been wanting to watch five children for a while but have t had the chance to start it. The 50 episodes is really pulling me down
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frabbycrabsis loves KBS Drama Specials
July 13, 2019 at 2:32 PM
I actually found that once I'd properly gotten into longer dramas like Five Kids and Wolgyesu, the episodes just flew by! If you can get over the hesitation to start it, I really recommend. There are a few plot lines I don't like, but overall Five Kids is a joy to watch.
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OldLawyer
July 13, 2019 at 3:25 PM
Frabbycrabsis is absolutely right about this. If you are watching a really good weekend family drama it will pull you in and you will be sad when it ends. LAUREL TREE TALORS (aka THE GENTLEMEN OF WOLGYESU TAILOR SHOP), FIVE CHILDREN (aka FIVE KIDS) and FATHER IS STRANGE are all very good shows that are well worth the time. I like the last one so much that I got the DVDs from the library and re-watched it with my wife.
OldLawyer
July 13, 2019 at 3:26 PM
I meant LAUREL TREE TAILORS
chen_dream
July 14, 2019 at 7:45 AM
There is a facebook fan page for sangminyeontae and they have a 4 part video compilations of all their scenes if you don't want to watch all 50 episodes of Five Children
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Cooler
July 13, 2019 at 3:12 PM
Angel has turned me into a Shin Hye-Sun fan, so I put Angel recaps only after episode 26 until I knew the outcome and picked up 30 but 17. Now that I know the outcome for Angel, I'm thinking of leaving it in the dropped bin with Absolute Boyfriend.
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lazy ~ gogo!
July 14, 2019 at 9:52 PM
yes, I loved 30 but 17! (and recommended it to many of my friends...) the reason why I liked Angel's was because both of these shows also gave me similar vibes (probably owing to the fact that Shin Hye-sun appears in both dramas)
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6 TAS-Mania
July 13, 2019 at 4:20 AM
I’m watching Go Go Squid and so far loving it as much as the book it’s based on.
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minitwin
July 13, 2019 at 6:27 AM
Omg same. I wonder what this show would be like if I wasn’t already in love with 97 and demo the second their faces appeared on screen lol. Most of the fun with the first episode was playing guess who before they said someone’s name.
I’m so surprised how close they are sticking to the dialog and timeline of the book but the screen writer is Mo Bao Fei Bao so I feel like that should have been obvious
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TAS-Mania
July 13, 2019 at 11:08 AM
I’m hoping that since Mo Bai Fei Bao is the screenwriter they will stay close to the novels and we won’t suddenly get noble idiocy, love triangles or a breakup once they become a couple since the novels avoided all of this. I’m happy with the casting.
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Vespertyne29
July 19, 2019 at 6:24 PM
I'm so into this drama that I'm watching it raw, and then re-watching when the subtitles appear. Not sure why I'm so drawn to it, but I really like all the characters, especially Han, but also - much to my shock - Tong Nian! I really like how the drama repeatedly shows how smart and self-confident she is, despite her young age (and her icky little-girl outfits and room decor). She's the speaker at a lecture to undergrads on AI. She's the lead developer of facial recognition software for the police. She's a successful singer and blogger on social media. And - making her an interesting companion for Han - she's super quick at mathematical calculations, at understanding the skill set behind the gaming he does, and a whiz at developing fun programs for Han and his team to use to improve their competition skills. I was all ready to hate on her for being the type of character she appeared to be, but nope. She's actually one of the smartest, most self confident female characters in a Chinese romcom that I've come across, despite her youth. (I was smiling when she saw through and skillfully deflected the woman who was hitting on Han. Ha! But she and Han need to kiss already!
With so many episodes, I figure the drama is going to turn the focus to the DT/Appledog relationship at some point. I'm not fond of the casting choice for Appledog, but I prefer seeing that to them scripting in unnecessary angst (misunderstandings, noble idiocy, breakups, etc) for Han and Tong Nian.
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Vespertyne29
July 15, 2019 at 6:34 PM
After watching the first 2 episodes (and loving Li Xian!), I was so intrigued by what made Gun dramatically retire at the peak of his career, despise Solo, and end his friendship with Appledog, that I found an English translation (done with the author's consent) of the novel on line. It was a very quick, disappointing read, with practically no plot. Much to my annoyance, it didn't even reveal the exact cause of the Solo team's breakup, and ended without resolving their broken relationships.
Luckily, most of my questions have been answered in the first 9 episodes of the drama, which I am really liking. (did I mention I love Li Xian? And Hu Yi Tian is also much hotter here than he was in the awful ALSB, where he unconvincingly "fell" for the dumbest, most childish looking/acting girl in his grade level).
Although I always struggle to find this particular type of character a credible love interest for any attractive, adult male, Tong Nian is - thankfully - not stupid (like the FL in ALSB) or sexually frigid (like the FL in Love O2O), and despite her childish taste in clothes, decor, etc, the drama does a decent job at actually showing - rather than stating with no evidence - that she is a highly intelligent, scholastically gifted young woman. The 9-10 year age difference even works OK b/c Gun has shunned romance/sex, and Tong Nian has been in college since she was 15 (so for 4 years when they meet).
The only disappointment so far has been that they haven't used that fantastic - and very apt - song quoted in Chapter 19 of the novel, Pu Shu's The Ordinary Road, which I immediately loved. Maybe they couldn't get the rights to use it, but I hope it shows up at an appropriate time.
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TAS-Mania
July 17, 2019 at 5:25 AM
It’s my understanding that the drama will be based on all novels in the trilogy. I believe it was Fish Playing in the Secret Room that explained the reason for the breakup. I actually really liked Stewed Squid With Honey but wasn’t a fan of God’s Left Hand or Fish Playing in a Secret Room.
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Vespertyne29
July 17, 2019 at 11:05 AM
I read historical fiction and fantasy, and hate romance novels, so it was a big zero for me, except to the extent that it introduced me to the character of Hans/Gun, whom I love, both in the novel and especially on the show.
I actually am shocked by how much I love this drama. I actually watch the episodes without subtitles, and although I don't understand a single word, I know what's going on from reading the novel. Li Xian is PERFECT, and I'm annoyed to read that he's getting criticism for always frowning and being grumpy, when that is exactly the character in the novel. And while I still can't really see why any man would be sexually attracted to a woman who dresses like a kindergarten child, and I find her interactions with Gun to be cringe-worthy, I don't hate Tong Nian. The drama is doing a great job of showing her as someone who is intellectually on Gun's level, and has talents that are complimentary to his. If only she'd get some taste in clothing. (Will a romance mean she'll ruin his gorgeously decorated house with a bunch of hideous pastel and Hello Kitty type crap?)
I love the way the drama is filling in the background story. I found the other two novels on line, and started reading God's Left Hand, but I hate hate hate noona romances when the boy falls for some older woman when he's 8 or 10 or 12, and stays all starry eyed over her until he hits legal age and they hook up. He's 15 in the novel and she's what? 25? GROSS.
This is clearly an author who has a thing for spring/winter romances, which is one of my least favorite tropes of my least favorite genre of fiction. With 50 episodes, I'm afraid I'll have to see that romance blossom as well. Hope it doesn't ruin the show, which otherwise is really good!
TAS-Mania
July 17, 2019 at 12:59 PM
Appledog is only 3 years older than Dt
Vespertyne29
July 17, 2019 at 3:00 PM
TAS-Mania: "Appledog is only 3 years older than Dt."
Really? He seems to be presented as being in his early 20s in the drama, and Appledog seems to be the same age as the original SOLO group. (I thought I read or saw in the drama that Gun was the youngest member of that group, and as it's 10 years after the Solo team broke up, then he would have been around 19. The implication in the drama is that Appledog and Solo were together, and Solo seems like an adult, so that's creepy, if he was the adult leader of the group AND having a romantic relationship with her).
So she was 15 when DT fell for her at age 12, and she was 18 and he is 15 at the start of God's Left Hand? He must be older than he seems to be presented in the drama, because the actress playing Appledog looks and seems much older than Hu Yi Tian. (I checked, and it looks as if Hu Yi Tian is 25, and the actress is 31, so 6 years age difference. But that doesn't matter as much as how the two characters are portrayed, and he seems much closer to the age of the other K&K team members than he does to Appledog and Gun).
But three years is perfectly acceptable! I am not particularly interested in their romance, so I don't know if I will read the other two novels.
What is the one about? The one with "fish" in the title?
TAS-Mania
July 17, 2019 at 4:59 PM
Both God’s Left Hand and Fish Playing in a Secret Room are about Appledog and Dt. In God’s Left Hand Dt is 15 and Appledog is 18 and in Fish Playing in a Secret Room Dt is 22 and Appledog is 25. She is about 5 years younger than Solo and Gun, as she met Solo when she was 14 and he was 19. Both of these novels focus more on the gaming competitions than the romance or at least more so than Stewed Squid.
TAS-Mania
July 17, 2019 at 5:05 PM
Fish Playing in a Secret Room is set around the same timeline as Stewed Squid so Appledog is 25 and Dt is 22 in Stewed Squid. Unfortunately I think the actress playing Appledog is too old for the part as she doesn’t look the 25 that’s she supposed to be. I am assuming they are the same ages in the drama as they are in the novel.
Vespertyne29
July 13, 2019 at 6:47 PM
I just put that on my "following" list, as I've heard good things about it. Waiting for a good chunk of sub-titled episodes to start watching it though - watching as things air has been very frustrating for me, as when I started watching Kdramas 2 years ago, everything I watched was completed, and I could binge on weekends!
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7 frabbycrabsis loves KBS Drama Specials
July 13, 2019 at 4:23 AM
One Spring Night: This is my favourite of the year, so far. That's probably why I haven't touched the last two episodes - I just can't let it end!
Live: Rewatch! I'm glad I decided to do this, Live is so rich with good things to say. The ensemble cast is amazing, the cases gripping, the soundtrack poignant. Definitely one of the best shows of last year, and close to a perfect drama.
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oppafangirl
July 13, 2019 at 4:43 AM
I love live! It's my fav ever police drama!
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miss h
July 13, 2019 at 8:08 AM
Live is such an underrated gem.
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PakalanaPikake
July 14, 2019 at 1:15 AM
@frabbycrabsis,
Amen to LIVE! Oodles of heart, and a fabulous cast. Great music. And Shin Dong-wook. <3
LIVE turned me into a fan of Sung Dong-il and Bae Sung-woo.
I was tickled to see that Officer Jang-mi (Bae Jong-ok) is in DESIGNATED SURVIVOR: 60 DAYS. She's doing great as the opposition leader.
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frabbycrabsis loves KBS Drama Specials
July 14, 2019 at 1:30 AM
Oh Yang-chon is now probably one of my favourite characters - he's so complex, and grounded, and despite being a strong healthy man he doesn't have any internalised notions of hegemonic masculinity! Such a feat.
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Cloggie
July 14, 2019 at 1:39 AM
His character was amazing. I loved him and An Jang-Mi so much.
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frabbycrabsis loves KBS Drama Specials
July 14, 2019 at 1:56 AM
I was actually looking back over the Live thread at what we were all saying, and I found the comment where you admitted to shipping Jeong-eo and Yang-chon after she cuffed him! 😆
Cloggie
July 14, 2019 at 1:58 AM
Yeah well, we can all have some errors of judgement every now and then.
I've said a lot of things about dramas in early episodes that I've later come to regret...
8 cat-cric-kat
July 13, 2019 at 4:23 AM
CRICKET - all energy for it. little bit of drizzle will make the final much more interesting. 14 JULY
Afro Tanaka - 1st episode translated. It was alright episode.
I won't work overtime or after hours - 8 out of 10.
Decent 2nd episode. Those real issues. Being working mother isn't as much easy. Then japan have creche problem and motherhood comes up with its own expectations from society.
If you tend to your kids then you lose, if you work then others make judgement on your feeling and responsibilities of being a mother.
Nurses in Action - watching 2 episode. can't say much
Are you Ready Hey You Girl - 6 out of 10. Damsel facing problems. Pretty face have nothing much to do other than being the attention of the hero. Even in manga Its the hero who has most of the screen time and character growth. Teengers would go kyaaah kyaah over this rom-com. Time pass. a bit long. Light entertainment. You watch it and you move ahead.
Kiss scene attracted my attention - as i normally show no interest in these scenes. maybe the way the kiss was done. yeah. That's the reason.
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cat-cric-kat
July 13, 2019 at 4:33 AM
Hello Debate Opponent - 7.5/10 - bad translations but episode 21 to 24 make up for episode 15-20 slow trajectory.
Pushing Hands - 6/10 episode 30 translated after a while. No movement. ridiculous business jargon. Writer really consider Audience illiterate.
Level Up - bleh 3/10
Go Go Squid - 4.5/10 3 episodes. bleh. Stalker girl.noisy and busybody. same old story.
The Way we Love - 4/10 meh
Before We Got Married - 6/10 this show is dragging for a while now. Repeating the same scenes again and again.
Episode 06 half watched - episode 07 done. That drunk scene was too funny. Sister from the world between us is such a sensible person. Female friend is the top character of the show now. male friend was infuriating and thankfully Che dealt with him for now.
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cat-cric-kat
July 13, 2019 at 4:44 AM
JAPAN
MOST IMPORTANT - Arimura Kasumi's AND, LIVE
Trailer is looking on big ride of emotions.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1ljWP2kQCk
vs. OKada Kenshi's Don't You Think Girls Who Talk in Hakata Dialect Are Cute
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coolgirl
July 13, 2019 at 6:29 AM
Do you intend to watch "Sign - Houigakusha Yuzuki Takashi no Jiken?
The original k-drama had excellent reviews and i want to see both but i'm not sure the j-version will be subbed.
In all cases, it started with a bang: 14.3% on the 1st episode!
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cat-cric-kat
July 13, 2019 at 7:24 AM
I mostly prefer slice of life, comedy, romance genre.
I'm a bit emotionally sensitive so on most occasions avoid violent shows. 2nd i find these kind of shows boring because everything revolve around find culprits all the time.
Story seems interesting. I'll pass but John diraito might join you.
gonna mention you in next week's open thread.
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9 Cloggie
July 13, 2019 at 4:25 AM
I finished One Spring Night which I really liked. I've also nearly finished Angel's Last Mission which I would have finished if Viki had subs for the last 30 mins. But, I don't really care what's going to happen anymore, so waiting is easy.
During the wait, I picked up Big Issue and I managed to watch almost half the drama in two days (am on ep 8 out of 16). In the beginning I wasn't that impressed. It seemed that the PD used all the toys they had to their disposal and thought they were really filming the next James Bond. The opening ep has: a motorbike, a car/truck of doom combo, a chase across a train - all to take one photo. The main characters are paparazzi and that didn't really appeal to me either. Then, it became clear that the drama isn't making out that these are good people. They're basically blackmailers to the rich and famous, taking photos of their misdeeds and threatening to publish these unless they pay up. The main leads are a top female blackmailer and a recovering-alcohol ex-con photographer, so yeah, pretty morally grey. And then, like with all great stories, those morally grey people stumble across something really bad. Anybody who has been following the news recently will have a pretty shrewd idea what that is. For our paparazzi, it bring up the question: should they take a pay-out or report it?
It's not an easy watch, I have to say, especially as it's so close to what's being uncovered in RL at the moment, but it's totally gripping and the two leads are amazing. In fact, the entire cast is top-notch.
I do need my two episodes of something lighter like WWW (calmly waiting until its 100% subbed to get the full benefit of sharp repartee) to even out my drama-watching diet.
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mugyuljoie is preciousss
July 13, 2019 at 4:42 AM
I'm also calmly waiting for a fully subbed WWW.
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LT is Irresistibly Indifferent and reminded of the slow march of death
July 13, 2019 at 12:41 PM
I hadn't even considered Big Issue, I might check it out now that my airing drama number is zero.
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10 Kafiyah Bello
July 13, 2019 at 4:32 AM
Investigation Couple 2: So they wrapped up the Schizophrenic episode. It was okay. His behavior wasn't like that of a Schizophrenic though. Now back to the big bad. No Min Woo isn't particularly interesting as a big bad, but he tries so A for effort.
Designated Survivor 60 Days: The president is finally asserting his power. I love it. He is learning and I like that a great deal. The mystery is expanding and also yeah to 60 minute episodes.
Angel's Last Mission: I stopped watching last week, but Shin Hye Sun always deserves the spotlight for her excellence even in a terrible drama.
One Spring Night: Awww, it's over. I have to say I did not like the first half of this drama, but I'm glad I stuck to it. The ending was lovely. However, I don't think they executed their little break very well. Ji Ho was entirely justified in feeling just god awful about Yu Mi, Jung-In's reasoning for the break and blaming herself was off. It's fine, it worked out and I am content.
Search Query WWW: We are in it now folks. I need Cha Hyeon and our little resident cutie Ji-Hwan to get it together. You obviously like each, so date chaebal. Now as for Ga-Kyung and Jin Woo, get a divorce so he can woo you. They are both so sad and I want to see them smile together. As for Ta Mi and Mo Gun, I am glad they brought the marriage issue up because it will continue to be a roadblock and honestly I hope neither of them cave. You can love someone all you want, but if you each want something fundamentally different, it is not going to work. We will see how the writer handles it. also RAWR to that kitchen kiss, HELLO.
Watcher: I have to say this mostly because I was one of his early detractors. Seo Kang Joon is truly a talent. Initially I was confused as to why he was so bland and lackluster in Entourage (Adrien Grenier was kind of boring, but still had charm) and I now realized that is simply how he interpreted the character, bland and lackluster. That being said he has one of the singular most important skills of a great actor and that is nuance. Every character he has done has been different, in the way they carry themselves and in the way they emote. He reminds me a great deal of Seo In Guk, who is one of my faves. All that to say Watcher is great. Our three leads are interesting, scarred, and strong. This should be fun.
Chief of Staff: We are at the end of a fabulous little drama. Lee Seong-Min's suicide was so predictable that I rolled my eyes. SIGH. Aside from that the backstabbing and fight to oust Song Hee Seob continues to be fun. Poor Hye Won, Tae Joon was not for you.
Arthdal Chronicles: We are in it now, apparently now we are to wait until September 7th. That is so stupid, it's only 6 more episodes. However, now Eunseom is almost free and Tanya has power. Based on the previews, Saya's crush will come out, Tanya, girl, what will you? This will be interesting. Also @moonbean mentioned a dramatic meeting for Saya and Eunseom. I just realized...
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shach
July 13, 2019 at 8:49 AM
I can't take Noh Min Woo seriously after all this dramatic flailing during personality change plus his usual self has no presence while the evil twin is comically cartoonish at times. I was glad to have eye candy on this show but now I'm more attracted to Oh Man Seok, the power of good acting.
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Athena
July 13, 2019 at 9:00 AM
I thought Watcher has a good start. Enough to bring me back to see what happens next.
Partners in Justice. The DID might not be textbook, but there really is no textbook last time I checked. There are still many psychologists that doubt that it exists in the form of multiple personalities. That said, I find our little bad guy adorable and creepy, so he is doing his job.
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Beverly
July 13, 2019 at 11:55 AM
I'm thinking of going back to Arthdal Chronicles. Is Saya the psychotic Elf? And he has a crush?
*sigh*
And now I ship them.
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Kafiyah Bello
July 13, 2019 at 8:49 PM
lol, he is the psychotic elf, lol, he does have a crush.
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11 judepps
July 13, 2019 at 4:40 AM
currently watching Watcher which is really my cup of tea Thriller!. Also watching Perfume and done watching Angels Last Mission Love.
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12 oppafangirl
July 13, 2019 at 4:55 AM
With long travel coming to end, time to dive in dramas, because who am I kidding, I 50% live for them.
WWW: The only bizarre thing that came out of this show is that I bought three books on cinematography and film editing, because I would love to quote from experts that the cinematographer and the directors of this show suck.
On the other hand, the actresses and script are amazing along with Lee Jae wook (JKY I expected a lot better, a lot better)
One Spring Night I am ready to binge its last 5 episodes... I have nothing to fear...
Secret Love affair Ep 8 and ep 9 were totally amazing, have taken away all my complaints about it...
Watcher "Whatever happens I will finish this show", remind me when I try to drop it, I should atleast finish one show by Seo Kang Joon, if I want to keep on saying that he is a fabulous actor.
On the other hand, I have mixed feeling for this shows, it feels like a cheap copy of Children of nobody and feels super insincere in depicting police (for which there is only one great show "Live"). The violence is unnerving because kind of it feels over the top and dumb and contrived.
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Blue (@mayhemf)
July 13, 2019 at 6:03 AM
Glad to see you are still watching Secret Love affair :))
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Cooler
July 13, 2019 at 3:27 PM
+1000000 on the "www" director and cinematographer sentiment. I find myself noting how much more reasonably EVERYONE else films lights than them every time I watch anything now.
They're manufacturing light in settings where it doesn't even make sense for there to be light just to blind the audience with those stupid flares. I would consider anyone kind enough to wait outside and egg one or all of the people responsible for this stylistic travesty as a heroes at this point.
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13 greenfields
July 13, 2019 at 5:05 AM
Most of my dramas are winding up & only WWW remains. I am so happy to have been introduced to this world where women can do anything, but also a 21 year old Lee Jae Wook set my heart aflutter. ProduceX101 is on its last episode now, and my fingers, toes & ears are crossed.
I started Designated Survivor: 60 days but with all the new shows I want to watch, it may be too much. So with much reluctance, I've decided to drop it in favour of Watcher, where Seo Kang Joon blew me away with his acting. I was not expecting that improvement from where I last saw him - Cheese In The Trap. Also Watcher reminds me of Life on Mars & The Guest, because it seems like we'll have some fun speculating on the mystery of the show. Or so I hope.
Finally, I want to watch Hotel Del Luna & Class of Lies as and when they air in the coming days. Can't wait for these!!
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greenfields
July 13, 2019 at 5:07 AM
Ah! Also finished One Spring Night. I might be the only one rating it a little lower - 8/10 for me.
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Cloggie
July 13, 2019 at 5:10 AM
Oh OSN isn't perfect by any means, but I'm pretty happy with an 8/10 score these days
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greenfields
July 13, 2019 at 6:51 AM
Because the bond between the sisters & their mum was so awesome! ^^
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ash27
July 13, 2019 at 8:56 AM
I also give it an 8/10. It was a really good show, but I think it could have been executed better, especially in the latter half.
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greenfields
July 13, 2019 at 10:19 AM
Agreed. For instance, I think the show spent way too much time on Ki-seok.
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ash27
July 13, 2019 at 10:46 AM
Oh, it definitely gave him way too much screen time. More time spent on the main couple figuring out how to be a family and less on the egotistic males would have been ideal.
Dorotka
July 13, 2019 at 5:09 AM
Seo Kang Joon was brilliant in Are You Human Too and Third Charm.
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greenfields
July 13, 2019 at 6:51 AM
I haven't watched those haha but noted. :)
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latebloomer
July 13, 2019 at 6:09 AM
I'm feeling the same way. If I have to choose between Designated Survivor and Watcher, I'll go with Watcher. Designated Survivor feels like a shark fest, where all the sharks are just waiting to tear our unfortunate president and each other to pieces.
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latebloomer
July 13, 2019 at 6:19 AM
Also, if you want company speculating on the mystery in Watcher, I've been commenting here: http://www.dramabeans.com/2019/06/storms-and-danger-lie-ahead-in-ocns-watcher/#comments .
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greenfields
July 13, 2019 at 6:53 AM
OOH thanks! Yes I do want company on this. Also agreed re Designated Survivor & Watcher. You put it in better words I think. I'm not sure why I prefer Watcher, I just do.
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bong-soo
July 14, 2019 at 7:37 AM
@lindag, latebloomer, @greenfields,
I posted a comment after episodes 1&2 in the Premier Watch post of 7 July. I will copy it into the above link. It will be nice to have a place to hang out with other WATCHER fans.
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14 drawde2000
July 13, 2019 at 5:07 AM
Finished Taiwan's History 3: Trapped this week. I enjoyed this drama, as it is not overly dramatic. Two adults, already at the peak of their career, contented and trying to live their best lives. It's hard to find many Asian dramas this way. Wishing for more stories like this.
Finished Ep 8 of China's version of 24, The Longest Day in Chang'an. I think I found a Chinese drama I can recommend to beanies and to my FB friends. Production quality is da bomb. Pacing is tight and fast paced. Exciting. Action packed. Intriguing. Looking forward to the next few episodes.
Then there is Korea's Chief of Staff. I do watch, but it's not something I look forward to every week. Great casting here. But I can't seem to connect with them. I connect more with the intern, as he is the heart of the story. Everyone else, including the two leads seem to enjoy playing the game and backstab everyone else. When it comes to office dramas, my two favorites are Korea's Misaeng and America's The West Wing. Chief of Staff might have been phenomenal, if they aired before those two. As of now, they are not bringing anything new in this genre.
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kellie
July 13, 2019 at 7:45 AM
Insightful comments there about Chief of Staff. I agree -- the cynical gaming of the system by the two main leads is not a plus. The acting is exceptional. Lee Jung-jae, whom I've never liked much, is at his best when he's mad. It's like an electric shock. Problem is, he's not getting mad about the right things . . . yet.
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Vespertyne29
July 13, 2019 at 6:52 PM
HIStory 3 ended up being much better than I thought it would be. No, it's not a great drama, and doesn't have great acting, but the story worked well, and the actors made their characters likable (or unlikable, as the role required), and I will cut some slack for any show - especially a show from all those strictly censored Asian countries - that is about BL!
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tsutsuloo
July 13, 2019 at 7:29 PM
@drawde2000—I'm trying to ration out the episodes of The Longest Day in Chang'an and failing hard. As period Chinese dramas go, watching is a wonderfully visceral experience. Did you know Amazon Prime is also carrying it? As of today, they have 12 fully subbed episodes (compared to Viki's 8).
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15 bobo10
July 13, 2019 at 5:08 AM
one spring night: such a lovely conclusion! will miss the main couple so much! the actors all did a great job.
a poem a day: this drama is so funny! i am definitely a ye-line supporter. it is my first time watch lee Jun-hyuk acting as a likeable romance lead and he is lovable as dr ye.
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bong-soo
July 13, 2019 at 10:45 AM
Hi @bobo10. I am glad you found APAD a 2018 favorite. The first few episodes were a challenge because I found the characters unappealing. (I have a theory that is why the ratings were so poor.) Once LJH arrived things picked up.
If you scan the recaps you will see beanies had a ball commenting. Sometimes things got slightly heated. Lol.
The only shipping war I have ever gotten involved in was in APAD. Alas, I was with Min-ho who got done in by Director-nim and Writer-nim but that is another story.
I loved the poems and the narrations.
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mugyuljoie is preciousss
July 13, 2019 at 11:28 AM
Hello fellow Min-Young shipper.
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javinne
July 14, 2019 at 12:56 AM
Long live Ye line! And say hello to my alligator friend!
I loved a poem a day. Totally into dr. Ye!!! 😍
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16 shach
July 13, 2019 at 5:11 AM
This month is a summer of political dramas with sprinkle of procedurals, and one odd raisin in mix.
I'm not fond of this new trend of splitting dramas into season and I hope Chief of Staff won't end in cliffhanger, I hate cliffhangers, I won't even comment on Arthdal going on hiatus right after it finally gather some momentum.
I actually enjoyed DS:60 ending this week, it's kind of a fun watching presidiantal staff trying to work around someone so unaccustomed to political power plays, and they finally adressed the amount of funerals they need to held, which weirdly bugged me during earlier episodes, how no one talked about it, and I'm digging the cute speech writer/press secretary.
Watcher premiere was pretty strong, although it was full of typical tropes, good writing and good acting make it work seamlesslyin my eyes, but I was truly shocked to find that Heo Sung Tae is 41 yrs??? He look sooooo much older than that.
Watching WWW this week I realised that Tami is like someone I can identify most in real life but Hyun is like this ideal I would like to be when I grow up (in next life ;)) and GaGyoung is heroine of tragic melodrama I would cheer on.
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Karmen ~ 🍜🏢🎭 ~ 📚☔🦋 ~ 🪂🌱💘 ~ ✨🍊💫 ~
July 13, 2019 at 6:22 AM
Great description of WWW!
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17 liar song #PuppyNotPuppyLeeJaeWookIsBack
July 13, 2019 at 5:16 AM
Search Query: WWW: This show has been consistently flipping tropes and stereotypes. From women running the workplace to women doing things mean have been doing for years in Dramaland: wrist grabs, piggyback rides, etc.
Rating: 8.5/10 for the trope switch, 11/10 for Seol Ji-Hwan and Cha Hyun, and 11/10 for the women
Angel's Last Mission: Love: We'reoon the final week and we got Noone of our questions answered and more questions to ask. The writer of this show doesn't even know how the rules of the deity works in her OWN universe. I will not give a proper review to a show who didn't took it's viewers and own universe seriously.
Rating: 999999/10 for the deus ex machina
Perfume: This show is weird in a good way. Seo Yi-do meeting Min Jae-Hee for the first time in years but being extra by making the meeting their first date and his wedding proposal was funny. I need to know what happens next.
Rating: 11/10 for SSR and 8/10 for this week's eps
Lookout: I knew what I was getting into when I started this show but I still ended up being a mess after that ending. Seo Bo-mi and Kong Kyung-soo are the cutest! THIS SHOW SAVED MY 2019. IT IS THAT AWEEESOME.
Rating: 9/10 for saving my 2019
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liar song #PuppyNotPuppyLeeJaeWookIsBack
July 13, 2019 at 5:18 AM
Korean Variety Show:
Produce x 101: I am a mess after episode 11. I honestly don't know what to feel after losing half of my faves.
Return of Superman: Gunhoo is the cutest living meme.
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FlyingTool
July 13, 2019 at 11:08 AM
“Cutest living meme” is a perfect description!
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Kairoskat 💐
July 13, 2019 at 6:01 AM
Wow. 999999 rating for alml is otherworldly. Is it that good?
And yes to 11/10 for Yi Do. His extraness deserves brownie points.
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liar song #PuppyNotPuppyLeeJaeWookIsBack
July 13, 2019 at 6:31 AM
the 9999999/10 rating was for the deus ex machina. I am not taking the show seriously anymore. So much work for a bean. The real rating of the show is 4/10.
Also, Yi-do is the best. I couldn't rate him objectively because I just love him so much. I am blinded by the character and SSR.
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Athena
July 13, 2019 at 9:03 AM
I was waiting for someone to bring up the the ending of Angel's Last Mission. It was eyerollingly bad, completely unsupported, unexplained and just *happened*. Thanks writer for putting yourself in a corner and then just going *poof happy ending!* That has all the trademarks of absolutely shit writing. I don't think I have been more disappointed in a writer since the ending of BIG.
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13infamyss
July 13, 2019 at 9:22 AM
Sigh. It’s not worth talking about. I was adamant to get this drama out of my list (and my life!) that I watched the last hour at 1am today. And gawd! I wish I had chosen sleep instead. Oh wells it’s done. I got my first bean this year. Writer is forever blacklisted. No actors she cast should ever make me watch her dramas again.
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+++ I guess more rant incoming cuz I need this out of my system!!!!
Like where the actual f did that HEA come from????? effin ridiculous. My brain has been insulted before too by many dramas and before they even do more damage, I drop it. But since I wanted to finish this drama, wow.... like......... I got what I deserved I guess for not dropping.... at least I wasn’t as furious as how Misty or Hwayugi did me dirty last year. Shin Hye Sun please do not ever work with this writer again. Would love to see more of your works in the future.
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Athena
July 13, 2019 at 9:34 AM
At least Hwayugi makes sense. I believe in the original books he really does go to the afterlife and create some havoc. That ending wasn't my favorite but it didn't make me angry like this one did.
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13infamyss
July 13, 2019 at 12:57 PM
I think I was already at a point in Angel’s Last Mission: Love where I just stopped caring. I went in to the final hour prepping for the worst possible ending....... We got a ridiculous HEA instead for the wildest reasons we don’t know how, and we really shouldn’t bother questioning. But again, coming from this horrible writer, I didn’t really expect more hows and whys to be answered.
Hwayugi was a Hong sisters drama that I really liked. I’ve had a Love and hate history already with Hong sisters from way back. I knew / have seen them do better, so Hwayugi’s ending felt a bit more betrayed to me than Angel’s.
liar song #PuppyNotPuppyLeeJaeWookIsBack
July 13, 2019 at 4:18 PM
@athena Yeah. Didn't really like Hwayugi's ending but it made sense because it is an adaptation. And the writers know the universe and the rules of the drama in that case so it makes me less angry. ALML's pulling a deus ex machina and I couldn't get any angrier. Shitty writing deserves shitty reviews.
liar song #PuppyNotPuppyLeeJaeWookIsBack
July 13, 2019 at 4:22 PM
@13infamyss I actually watched the ending partly because a friend is asking me how the show will end. I mean, Nina had a sort-of nice ending. Not full of flowers and rainbows but a realistic and happy now. But Dan and Yeon-seo's straight up just magic. Like the deity didn't know his plans for humans and angels so He decided to pull a deus ex machina last minute.
growingbeautifully
July 14, 2019 at 2:08 AM
LOL @sychotic1 I said some very similar things about the ending of Absolute Boredom in the next page.
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mugyuljoie is preciousss
July 13, 2019 at 11:26 AM
I couldn't believe more people didn't watch Lookout live. It was a wild ride. Now I'm adding Perfume to my list (I should've started it instead of Full House).
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Athena
July 13, 2019 at 1:17 PM
I adored Lookout. My only regret was not enough romance. Other than that, it was definitely a strong sleeper. I watched it live too and loved it.
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liar song #PuppyNotPuppyLeeJaeWookIsBack
July 13, 2019 at 4:25 PM
I think the romance was compensated by Bo-mi and Kyung-soo's romance. I mean, I really liked it. What really had me regretting was the potential of the finale ep. It didn't have to end like that. But this show is still great regardless.
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Athena
July 13, 2019 at 6:24 PM
Yes, I thought the same thing about the ending, but it didn't ruin the show for me.
liar song #PuppyNotPuppyLeeJaeWookIsBack
July 13, 2019 at 6:41 PM
@athena Yes! The ending made me sad but it kind of made sense. Just shows how I became attached to the characters and how I imagined their awesomeness as a team in the end.
liar song #PuppyNotPuppyLeeJaeWookIsBack
July 13, 2019 at 4:23 PM
I also couldn't believe myself that I dropped a great show for some other ongoing shows that time...
And Perfume is great! You'll get used to its weirdness after episode 4. Have fun!
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Kairoskat 💐
July 13, 2019 at 6:58 PM
I remember watching Lookout but I just recalled that I actually watched it live. I had to do some DB comment section digging and found I commented on the recaps to jog my memory 🤣.
Also Perfume is good. As @liarsong mentioned, you'll eventually get use to it's weirdness and just enjoy ride. I dig the cinematography and music, both are equally splendid.
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18 lillamy
July 13, 2019 at 5:21 AM
The only show I'm following at the moment is Before We Get Married and with the 7th episode I started having a bad feeling that the point of the show isn't for Kehuan and Weiwei to find love with each other but for their bf/gf to redeem themselves and still get the happy marriage.
My rating will severely drop if this is the case. My dislike for Zihyan is still great as ever but Haoyi has really stooped in my approval.
Other than that, I found this website of translated asian novels. Let's just say, I'll occupy my self for a looong time.
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stpauligurl
July 13, 2019 at 8:31 AM
@lillamy
I'm with you on Before we get Married. Still not sure of the point other then she needs to make her own decisions. But I watch it several times every weekend waiting for all the subs. Han Keife is the best friend ever!
What is the website of translated asian novels? Do you mind sharing the link?
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egads aka Dame Maggie
July 13, 2019 at 8:35 AM
@stpauligurl, yesterday when I was looking for an English translation of Go Go Squid, I found this website: https://hui3r.wordpress.com/
So, I've already read GGS, and another novel on the site. I like the translator's style, and she does a nice job explaining things that might not make sense if you don't have a close understanding of language and culture.
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stpauligurl
July 14, 2019 at 5:04 AM
Thank you @egads! when I was looking for the book the show "Before we get married" came from I looked everywhere online. However this didn't come up.
LOVE sites like this.
Does this person mainly translate graphic books?
*back to bookmark the site and start reading*
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lillamy
July 14, 2019 at 10:25 AM
https://www.novelupdates.com/
It's awesome, so far I've read some great novels. ^^
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egads aka Dame Maggie
July 13, 2019 at 8:41 AM
Before We Get Married is one drama that I sincerely hope has a time skip. Both of them need to not be in a relationship with anyone for a while. Yeah, they've got great chemistry, but they need to get their respective heads on straight before thinking about being with each other.
I don't think they will end up with their respective current partners because those relationships are either toxic, co-dependent, and distrustful, or just plain built on a weird and wobbly foundation of what it means to make a life together.
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Trina
July 13, 2019 at 8:47 AM
I only like Kefei and younger sister. They are only sane people in this this drama. Everyone have issues. At least, people are communicate with each other. Oh, I also love the OST so far.
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Beverly
July 13, 2019 at 12:04 PM
I loved the younger sister and what she had to say at the cafe.
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lillamy
July 14, 2019 at 10:29 AM
Jepp, she really makes things happen. If she hadn't spoken to Kehuan like that, he never would've cut her cards.
@egads aka Dame Maggie Your solution is a good one, I totally support it.
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lexyk
July 16, 2019 at 9:12 AM
I had decided to drop it after episode 5, but I am still tempted to watch episode 6. Lol. I don't know why. I was so frustrated and uncomfortable with the way Kehuan is written: he feels like a stalker, and the way he pursues Weiwei feels so much like sexual and emotional harassment. I also hate that the Haoyi and Zihyan are written so that the viewer would want Kehuan and Weiwei to get together: it doesn't feel realistic...