Team Dramabeans: What we’re watching
by DB Staff
So, what are we all watching this week?
What kept you reaching for more (or agonizing when there was no more), and what made you want to throw your remote through the screen? Time to weigh in…
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Designated Survivor: 60 Days: Our biggest dramaland enemy aside (more on that later), this premiere did a good job of introducing the different factions and their opposing interests. It puts tension in each scene, even if it’s just a bunch of men in suits arguing over car imports. And though I was hopping mad that no one was listening to the nerdy president’s calculations, I can also understand (at least, based on history and experience) why his family, the force, the media, the citizens, and the seasoned politicians are all pulling him in different directions. I can’t even hate them. It’s like hating a cat for having claws. The only true baddie here is the 80-minute episode lengths. Where can I sign the petition against that?
Angel’s Last Mission: Love: I almost dropped this during the abduction+amnesia episode where they let Yeon-seo believe that she fainted so she… needs a dozen new bodyguards? *facepalm* Have any of these people met Yeon-seo? Does she sound like a girl who will stay at home just because you ask her nicely?! With dimples?! *calms down* But then the show always turns around and gives me the funny and all is forgiven. I’ll never get tired of Yeon-seo terrorizing Angel Hoo, and I can never get enough of Miss Jung and Yeon-seo declaring their unlove for each other. That scene starring Dan as the penniless charmer and Miss Jung as the offended mother-in-law was the GOAT.
Great Escape 2: I’ve circled back around to season 2! I started this week with the first challenge, the one about aliens in the school’s basement. Very cool and impressive props-wise. Also one of the most suspenseful endings so far. When you can hear the cameraman panicking “they won’t make it, they won’t make it,” it really drives home the new rule that players can “die” or be tagged out this season. I also got time *cough*3 hours*cough* to watch the second challenge, the one about red eye flu. Though the sets were impressive as always, it was a bad decision storywise to isolate Kim Jong-min and P.O because they couldn’t solve anything. LOL But I appreciate that the production team is trying to add some twists. Can’t wait to watch the prison episode!
Laica
Angel’s Last Mission: Love: Shin Hye-sun is still killing it here, and she and L are adorable together, but I just… can’t… bring myself to care anymore. Everything else about this drama is such a hot mess, and I’m even really angered by it. I’m just bored.
Search Query: WWW: This is the most subtly, cleverly meta drama I have ever watched and I LOVE IT. Whatever else I thought a show about women running search engines would be, I did not expect an understated but knife-sharp deconstruction of nearly every drama genre we know so well. There’s the more obvious parody with Ji-hwan’s makjang daily drama, but the role reversals here, with pretty much every role that’s usually given to man played by a woman and vice versa, are radical because they go completely unremarked upon. Instead we simply have a terrifying chaebol mother-in-law who has her fingers in the highest level of politics instead of one who simply throws water in Ga-kyung’s face; in Ga-kyung and Jin-woo, in fact, we have the likely actual result of a marriage of convenience ten years down the line, without the magical fate and happy endings of rom-com land. And yet even here, it is the husband who is quietly, yearningly in love with his powerful, coldly charismatic wife. (God their relationship is my favorite romance plotline in the drama—I am rooting so hard for them to just run away together and leave their toxic families to torment each other.) Then we have Ta-mi and her running commentary to Mo-gun not to wear such seductive clothing (ha!), and the way Hyun has taken Ji-hwan under her protection in the way of many a drama oppa with a young ingenue. How cute was Ji-hwan’s “How does it feel to control my life?” And his confession to Hyun in front of drunk Ta-mi was giddy-making. This weeks’s episodes were especially perfect, especially in their endings. 9 ended with Ga-kyung finally coming to her breaking point and declaring her intention for freedom, which was followed by freeze-frames of her smiling, rather than the usual recap of important moments in the episode. 10’s last few minutes gave us that touching conversation between Ta-mi and Ara (how amazing are all these mentor-mentee relationships between women and where have they been all my life?!), and that beautiful montage of the team ending their day; that mini-epilogue of Alex taking the selfie for Brian melted my heart. I love that the work relationships here are so fully realized, and don’t just serve as background for the rom-com elements. Our three leads are so heavily invested in their work lives, and the team dynamics are important to their emotional state. It shouldn’t be this revolutionary to see Ta-mi being in a funk when she thought Alex was leaving; when have we seen heroines depressed for any reason other than romantic woes, or maybe getting fired unfairly? Yet here we see these women dealing with the pressures of leadership, the responsibilities of being the one in the hot seat if anything goes wrong; the self-doubt and stress that comes from having your colleagues rely on you. So I’m here for it. And even though Mo-gun is still constantly giving me unhealthy-obsession vibes, dare I hope that even this is a deliberate choice by the drama and is leading up to a very smart commentary about toxic relationships? I have enough faith in this writer now to believe she won’t disappoint us.
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One Spring Night: One week left and I’m not ready for it to end yet! I think Gi-seok’s father summed up the entire set of conflicts in this drama when he said, “Humans are selfish beings.” This whole story seems to be an exploration of what happens when people’s selfishness affects their decisions and the people around them — or, as often shown in this drama, the women around them. Speaking of the women in this drama, can I just say how much I love them?! Friends, sisters, mothers, all of them. Jae-in puts her spitfire self to work protecting both her sisters, Seo-in adds a wonderful parallel layer to the story, and that meeting of the mothers on the bench? So touching.
What Happened in Bali: Summer seems like a good time to watch some of the K-drama classics I’ve been sitting on for a while, and What Happened in Bali is up first! Anyone game to join? So Ji-sub, Jo In-sung, and Ha Ji-won in a love triangle of extreme dimensions. In Bali (I think). Fair warning: This drama is said to have one of the most tragic endings in dramaland, so we’ll have to see how that shakes out. We survived Hundred Million Stars From the Sky recently, though, so I think we’ve got this. (If you’ve already seen this classic, don’t spoil it, purty please!)
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Tags: Angel's Last Mission: Love, Designated Survivor: 60 Days, One Spring Night, Search Query: WWW, What We're Watching
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1 Lord Cobol (Kdramas, like water, flow downhill)
July 6, 2019 at 4:24 AM
Who would win? The archer in Joseon or the slingers in Arthdal?
Arthdal: D/C: At least the bad lighting helps hide the bad makeup. Big budget (except for lighting/electricity) "epic" built on a foundation of mud. Slave parts were an F on my how-I-liked-it scale, rest was a C.
Designated Survivor: C+/B-: On my personal enjoyment scale, day 1 was an A and day 2 a D. For the "how good it was", I'm being generous because day 2 was bad in the same ways as 800,000 other kdramas -- mostly contrived arguments with Designated Obnoxious Idiots -- so if you're a kdrama fan you probably have a high tolerance.
Investigative Couple / Partners for Justice: C/B: Ok except for doctor's mental issues. And
Designated Obnoxious Idiotscrooked prosecutors.Joseon Survival: C/B-:
Secret Life of My Secretary day 13: B/B: / Chemistry & cuteness 👍 vs plot 👎. Whichever of those wins, my plan for binge/catch-up looses as I remain far behind.
Voice 3: C/B: If you like over-the-top baddies & strong female leads, and have a high tolerance for contrived obstacles, then you might like this show. If you loved Voice season 1 you might be able to stomach it.
And of you can't stand contrived obstacles why are you watching kdramas?Angel's Last Mission: Love: B/B-: Lead actress 👍; plot 🙄. Writer seems to be "winging it"
in the rain. As SailorJumin said in a recap "Where is this drama’s rule book? Is it up on the same shelf as Abyss‘ rule book?". Not sure why this show doesn't get as much plot-hate as Abyss or Alhambra. Yet.Required fields are marked *
Kafiyah Bello
July 6, 2019 at 5:01 AM
Do you finish Voice 3? I quit at episode 13. It was getting so repetitive
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Lord Cobol (Kdramas, like water, flow downhill)
July 6, 2019 at 9:14 AM
Finished. Not really worth it.
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outofthisworld 不愧是我 🏍
July 6, 2019 at 5:43 AM
Why Angel > Alhambra?
Shin Hye Sun
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oppafangirl
July 6, 2019 at 8:16 AM
Totally, having bad plot + pot plants together is an overkill!
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Athena
July 6, 2019 at 8:58 AM
Partners for Justice - I don't know, I am kind of liking crazy doctor who is afraid of scissors cutting his...um...ya know what...off.
Angel's Last Mission - I have the plot hate for this. God is the big bad and everything is by fiat as far as I can tell at this point.
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thatstp
July 6, 2019 at 1:04 PM
He cut it off? I don't remember that. Now I have to start from the beginning again.
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Athena
July 6, 2019 at 1:36 PM
No, the Mom, she is threatening to cut his special assets right off...that is what I got out of that scene. Horrifying.
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thatstp
July 6, 2019 at 1:47 PM
OOOoohhhh, yeah.
OldLawyer
July 6, 2019 at 9:58 AM
The only reason Angel's Last Mission does not get more plot hate is that the central romance has actually been consistent even if the rest of the show is a total mess.
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LT is Irresistibly Indifferent and reminded of the slow march of death
July 6, 2019 at 11:35 AM
As far as I can tell, Angel's Last Mission is pretty standard YA nonsense. It's a coherent show, it's just extremely shallow.
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Vespertyne29
July 6, 2019 at 3:49 PM
Both ALM and SLoMS sound so boring. I tried ALM, but got immediately bored, and dropped it after 2 or 3 episodes. Rom-com-melodramas are really not my thing.
I just can't even begin the Arthdal Chronicles. It looks SO BAD.
It's a pretty dry period right now for me and Kdramas. Nothing looks interesting.
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2 Radily
July 6, 2019 at 4:25 AM
For the month of July, I also intend to pick up Class of Lies, A Moment at Eighteen and Melo Suits Me. As for My Absolute Boyfriend, I’ll probably push through the last 4 hours in one shot next week!
Designated Survivor: 60 Days
Real life politics are dirty, with countries all wanting to assert their rights and people (the military and the opposition in this drama) all gunning for more power. This show doesn’t stray far from that but what caught my interest was how the previous president was a good man who eventually crumbled under the power: how will Park Moo Jin now fare against the same circumstances? Despite his political inexperience, his rationality has won him allies and defused conflicts. So far so good, but the culprit is still out there. Conspiracy theory time! I have two theories about Na Kyung’s boyfriend: 1, he is part of an shadow organisation that seeks to ensure that the situation in the Korea Peninsula remain destabilised (whether it be for the military industrial complex or not), placing him as one of the nefarious ones, 2, he is a DPR Korea spy that obtained information about the missing dud (which they investigated because it was stolen) and rushed there to steal it so as to prevent themselves from being implicated (here he’s a potential ally). I believe he’s still alive now, as drama logic dictates that his romantic relationship with Na Kyung will complicate investigation matters down the road.
Search Query: WWW
I’m trying to understand what was the trigger that made Ka Kyung decide to rebel against KU Group since I don’t think Unicon being threatened by Barro would be sufficient motivation for her to snap. I love the juxtaposition of the two very different sets of parents (Ka Kyung’s real parents vs. Morgan’s adopted parents): it was a nice inversion of how society usually views them (and we finally get Ta Mi supporting Morgan for once!). The spotlight given to the Barro TF team at the bookend really made me smile (so many character arcs packed into it!): this is a nice start to the drama’s 2nd half.
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Dorotka
July 6, 2019 at 4:38 AM
I can't wait for Hotel de Luna!!!
I'm even scaring myself with my excitement 😆
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OldLawyer
July 6, 2019 at 11:51 AM
Hotel de Luna is probably the show I also am most looking forward to.
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Kafiyah Bello
July 6, 2019 at 5:04 AM
To give a theory for Search Query (that rhymes, 😂). I think it was a combination of the fact that she was just about to enjoy herself and then her parents got in trouble. So it snapped back to her the reality of the situation she was in. Every time she starts to relax, she is reminded by her mother in law or her parents that she has no control of her life, this was just the straw that broke the camel's back.
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13infamyss
July 6, 2019 at 6:31 AM
Yes definitely the sight of her parents on their knees before the mother in law and how they’re asking her to do the same was the trigger for Ga Gyeong.
Interesting conflict is we have here is now that they’re about to divorce, her relationship with her husband seems to be getting better. I like that the husband doesn’t seem to be the mother’s favourite child either.
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fanofdesignatedsurvivor
July 6, 2019 at 5:43 AM
Designated Survivor: 60 Days - watch this show people! Tension-filled, exciting, good acting. Ji Jin Hee is great. Hope the Korean version makes the show its own rather than just a replica of the US version
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FlyingTool
July 6, 2019 at 9:49 AM
I think the break was a combination of things. Having the only two friends in her life, Tammy and CH tell her she had lost herself, the rights of users she had authored when younger, along with the only accomplishment in her life, Unicom becoming ever more corrupted, I think set up the break. The final scene with her parents on their knees and the MIL smirking was the final straw.
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3 Dorotka
July 6, 2019 at 4:30 AM
Uf, this week I'm worried.
I'm mainly worried about Spring Night... that it may pull Pretty Noona on us. I didn't like the ending of the last episode... and even more the preview. I hope it's totally misleading. And that somebody finally stops Gi Seok. (Just WHY is Jung In constantly telling him he can do whatever he wants to her and bother her???).
I'm also worried about the Badass Ballerina... and her Black Dressed With Black Thoughts Angel. (Their wedding was beautiful though.)
Luckily I have Let's Eat 3 to ease my worries with all that food... and (nostalgic) college years. I think so far (I watched the first 8 episodes) it's my favourite series from the three. It's not only because it organically shows the origin of Dae Young as a foodie, but also because of the two time lines and smooth switching between them and the general pace. And because of the sisters.
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Dorotka
July 6, 2019 at 4:31 AM
I'm also re-watching the available episodes of Before We Get Married. And lot of dialogues are so much better on second viewing. Not only it is clearer why some words of Wei Wei cause such en extreme reaction of Ke Huan, but it also shows where the problems in the relationships are (and thank you Girl Friend and Sister for voice of reason). The writing is good. And so is Jasper Liu's acting.
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Table122000
July 6, 2019 at 8:55 AM
I'm loving Before We Get Married. It's my crack drama for the summer. I totally plan a binge watch myself once it's over. Watching once a week as each episode comes out does affect the flow, but I'm too addicted to stop the live watch and wait until all episodes are out. Now that we are almost halfway through, a mini marathon sounds good. There is so much going on in this drama, a second viewing to catch all the things I missed the first time is needed. I read an interview with the author of the novel and they gave insights into what they wanted to explore with the novel and also insights into the characters. It's not just about cheating. I want to watch the drama again now that I have that input as well.
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Linda Palapala
July 6, 2019 at 9:34 AM
I'm starting to get bored with it - I thought they would've gotten "together" already and am getting impatient. But since you say the writing is good...perhaps I should pay more attention to that!
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Dorotka
July 6, 2019 at 10:44 AM
That's just my personal opinion 😄
I think it also depends on your expectations... yes, the intro is rather steamy... and so far nothing much actually happened 😆
But I love all the talks (especially with the Girl Friend) and slow evolution.
And regardless whether Ke Huan and Wei Wei will end up together or not, their meeting was crucial for both of them as it forced them to re-evaluate their current relationships.
*** There are minor spoilers bellow ***
So far we mainly see Ke Huan's changes - from initial fascination to pulling Wei Wei's pigtails to trying to let Wei Wei go and make her happy as (and with whom) she wishes to desperately missing her... though the most important thing is he finally spells out to his girlfriend that their relationship has been long time dead and he breaks up with her and moves out.
Wei Wei is more closed and stubbornly hanging on Haoyi, though the question is (as her friend asked) - is it really Haoyi or just the idea of being with him? Wei Wei is also forced to ask herself, whether The Retirement Plan is also HER plan... and whether living in the future (with extreme frugality now) is the living she actually wants. And whether she is a real partner to Haoyi or just a part of his Plan (and maybe any (frugal) girl would do).
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Linda Palapala
July 6, 2019 at 11:05 AM
I'm wondering if the real question (and moral of the story) is: do you be sensible and marry the practical man or go with your libido and marry the passionate man? Well,if the passionate man also makes good money, then no problem.
Beverly
July 6, 2019 at 11:13 AM
I thought Ke Huan's reaction to his ex's involvement in his promotion was interesting. That those around him see her actions and connections as an asset and he sees it as undermining what he is working for and controlling. Her position is one that is usually shown as a positive and as a job of its own though she doesn't have a traditional job.
sorrynotsorry
July 6, 2019 at 12:01 PM
I actually hope we get a bit more about how she ended up with 321. If we go with the premise that she at least thinks she loves him, then her story arc works quite well. The story is her figuring out her own messy emotions. Not really anything new but it's much better than I thought it would be.
Dorotka
July 6, 2019 at 12:14 PM
Linda, after the 5 episodes I watched I think the question is a bit more complex than libido vs practicality. 😉
I may give the Show more credit than it deserves, but right now I think it tries to ask questions like: Are you really happy in your current relationship? What do you really expect from a marriage? Does your partner really sees YOU (and you Him)? Are you still on the same page?
I like that there are layers and each episode gives us some extra info. And so the person who originally looks like a jerk may actually be a bit of a caring gentleman... and the person who originally looks like a caring sensible partner may actually be a bit of a jerk...
Linda Palapala
July 6, 2019 at 12:22 PM
@dorotka Yes, my response was a bit simplistic and you filled in the details with your response. This is why I like Taiwanese dramas, they ask these complex questions beneath aseemingly shallow story at first glance.
Dorotka
July 6, 2019 at 12:43 PM
Agree.
Taiwan can produce interesting dramas.
(Though the last one I followed so intensively was In Time With You... 2011... wow...where did the time go??).
4 Dorotka
July 6, 2019 at 4:32 AM
And... confession... I'm already quite some time still on ep 15 of Fangirl (Her Private Life) and on ep 11 of Pinku Couple (Touch Your Heart) and can't seem to finish it. However I finished (and enjoyed till the end) Secretary's Secret Life. What does it mean????
🙂🙂
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latebloomer
July 6, 2019 at 8:31 AM
It's that mysterious power of Do Min Ik to make you love him no matter how fluffy the rest of the show is.
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snowy
July 6, 2019 at 12:46 PM
I stalled for a while after ep 10 of Touch Your Heart. I made myself finish it this week. Just an "ok" drama for me.
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5 sorrynotsorry
July 6, 2019 at 4:34 AM
Angels Last Mission: I stopped watching this one a while back, and I don't know if I will jump back in. SHS is fantastic but I'll see what everyone thinks about the end because I don't know if this writer can pull it off.
Before We Get Married (t-drama): It is nothing new but the chemistry between the leads is great.
I am taking a break from starting new k-dramas. I'm in a bit of a slump because usually, WWW would be right up my alley. I want to try to use this time to finish up some dramas that, for whatever reason, I left in limbo. First up is Romance Is a Bonus Book with 4 episodes left.
HBO: Chernobyl: One of the best things I've watched on tv in a long time. Outstanding.
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tsutsuloo
July 6, 2019 at 9:55 AM
Yes! Chernobyl is definitely on my list.
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sorrynotsorry
July 6, 2019 at 10:14 AM
Yeah, just when I think HBO is worthless (I wasn't into Game of Thrones), they come up with something like this.
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6 frabbycrabsis loves KBS Drama Specials
July 6, 2019 at 4:37 AM
@missvictrix, you are in for a RIDE.
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7 Dorotka
July 6, 2019 at 4:50 AM
@missvictrix I have seen Bali and I won't spoil you... but I also won't join you for a re-watch... that said, I never regretted watching it... it's just very intense...
And back then I started because of So Ji Sub...and fell for Jo In Sung... badly...
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cheekbones
July 6, 2019 at 8:51 AM
Yes, I fell so hard for Jo In-sung, too.
And while his name pops out, I just want to mention that when I first saw Ji-hwan of the makjang drama in Search, for a second I gasped thinking he's JIS making an epic cameo. 😜
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OldLawyer
July 6, 2019 at 10:00 AM
So Ji Sub is a great actor
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missvictrix
July 6, 2019 at 1:11 PM
I can't wait!
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8 LT is Irresistibly Indifferent and reminded of the slow march of death
July 6, 2019 at 4:52 AM
Just as I picked up and promptly dropped Arthdal last week, I did the same with WWW but for different reasons. It is the year of dropping and I'm afraid that I still can't work out what WWW is trying to be. It's almost like they've filmed independent parts of different stories and then stitched them together. On paper that sounds like it'd be my favourite thing ever but in reality I couldn't find something in it to hold onto. No, not even Scarlett and her love of Makjang.
Speaking of the Year of Dropping, I also dropped Absolute Boyfriend although that wasn't a surprise. I still think this show had a surprisingly-excllent first half. But I wasn't shocked when it jumped the shark big time this week. I was more surprised by how much I had enjoyed it until then. But, yeah, that shark was jumped and that shark's named Zero Ten.
As for shows I am actually still watching, Angel's Last Mission continues to delight me with how utterly shallow it is and how weird it is that Shin Hye-sun is acting her guts out in the middle of this puddle.
I've picked up One Spring Night but am not very far in yet so am yet to have an opinion. The first few episodes were certain deft so we'll see how that goes.
I've been doing my promised fish cult watch of the Secret Life of my Secretary and finished it today. My fan wall has all my thoughts of the drama, which boil down to this: I loved everything about this show except the OTP. And unfortunately an OTP is rather an important part of a romcom. It's a shame because the show had a lot of good things to say about his face blindness and living with an illness. And Veronica Park ruled everything with her little finger.
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oppafangirl
July 6, 2019 at 8:19 AM
I told you to skip ep 3/4 and rest is far more coherent, just 3/4 are absurd.
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oppafangirl
July 6, 2019 at 8:24 AM
*to put more context : I dropped www on ep 4 (after FF 80% of it) but Greenie convinced me that ep 5 was good and I felt the show was much better later. Obviously they need to get a better editor and fire their cinematographer along with the second director...
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LT is Irresistibly Indifferent and reminded of the slow march of death
July 6, 2019 at 11:40 AM
The problem was I was so bored in 3 I couldn't keep going. And at the time I was watching a billion shows.
I might reconsider it later but I just couldn't maintain my interest.
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Cooler
July 6, 2019 at 5:03 PM
Lol, I started on Episode 5, then circled back to the others because I liked Episode 5. I never start in the middle of anything I can stream; but, if I hadn't, I may not have gotten to Episode 5.
I was following through recaps and the cliff hanger made me curious. The recaps are coming a little slow, and I didn't have the patience to wait.
The lens flares are making it damn near unbearable. Who TF thinks that's a good idea? There's not only a freaking ton of them, but their damn long as well. I can deal with the sepia tint and vignettes, but if I thought it'd make a difference I would create a bot--after learning to code enough to create a bot of course--just to continuously spam the cinematographers social with "WTF ARE YOU DOING? STOP WITH THE F**** FLARES" in Korean.
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Jeremy
July 6, 2019 at 8:34 AM
I don't know anymore if shs is acting her guts out or everyone is just that bad. What was the plot for this drama anyway? Why is the ost better than the writing? Why am I still watching it?
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FlyingTool
July 6, 2019 at 10:08 AM
You’re description of ALML is so on point! SHS is giving the performance of her life in this ... puddle as you said.
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Vespertyne29
July 6, 2019 at 3:57 PM
I can't bring myself to watch any of those shows, although I did give Angel's Last Mission and WWW a try. AML was an immediate drop. And like you, it seems as if WWW should be something I love, but I just don't. I may watch it one day, but I've been mostly bored for each of the few episodes I've watched, and while I haven't dropped it forever, I also haven't committed to ever watching any more of it.
As usual, it's the Chinese wuxia dramas that are killing it for me. Ended up really liking Ever Night and can't wait for the second season, I am delighted with Listening Snow Tower, and so far The Untamed is charming me with its pretty boys, ghosts, and sadly-gutted-for-censorship-reasons boy love story!
Waiting for the next crop of Kdramas to see if they will get out of the slump/mediocrity that this mid-2019 period seems to have fallen into.
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poofmagk
July 8, 2019 at 9:57 PM
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LT is Irresistibly Indifferent and reminded of the slow march of death
July 8, 2019 at 10:00 PM
I used to be pathologically unable to drop, to the point where I had to watch all of every show I started. So this year I made a decision to force myself to drop shows if they weren't working for me. It's definitely been a good decision. I haven't regretted anything I've dropped.
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9 gia
July 6, 2019 at 4:55 AM
Angel Last Mission : This drama is still my favorite one and i am praying we get a happy ending for danyeon couple these two poor souls deserves nothing but happiness.
One spring night : the preview for the final two episodes kinda put me in a bad mood and i don't want the ex boyfriend in the picture again cause i'm sick of him clinging to JI to save his ego and the whole come back to me jiho is not good enough talk is getting repetitive,.
Search WWW : I FF the main couple scenes cause i can't with their cheesy dialogues but the rest is fun and i am enjoying scenes with scarlet and her actor, also GG scenes with her husband are interesting as well.
Planning to start watching CDrama le coup de foudre since everyone is talking about that one!
Waiting for : Hotel de Luna and when the devil calls your name..
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10 cozylurker
July 6, 2019 at 4:59 AM
One Spring Night. I can't believe it's gonna end soon, got too attached and now I can't say goodbye. I mean, when will I ever get to see such a warm and cozy drama again? Not to mention the beautiful ensemble.
It's one of those shows which I want to unsee so that I can go over it again and experience the joys of watching it for the first time.
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11 Kafiyah Bello
July 6, 2019 at 4:59 AM
Investigation Couple 2: The ending of Seo Hyun's busy busy week(lol) was nicely wrapped up. It moved the story forward and we found out more about why Dr. K is Dr.K. Multiple personality disorder, haven't seen that in a while. Now we really need to stop the schizophrenic's are dangerous story. It is incredibly uninformed and ignorant and frankly I am annoyed. It's stupid and I am not going to like this storyline, we were doing so well.
Designated Survivor: I love it. I love that they didn't follow the American show as closely because it needed to be Korean. One of my biggest pet peeves when they do a remake is when they don't make it better, so they are doing that here, so cheers.
Angel's Last Mission: Much like @laica, I am bored. I stopped watching episode 14 because I just don't care. Shin Hye Sun cannot save the silly religious aspect of this or the terrible storyline, so I am out.
One Spring Night: What an excellent couple of episodes. Jae In fighting for her sister. The wonderful moment between to the two mothers, silently crying and then understanding each other. Jung In and Ji Ho just fighting for each other. Eun No coming in clutch. Just excellent all around. Brava to the writing on this. Now, the previews are kind of annoying me, but Ji-Ho's grief at find that awful woman is married with a child is perfectly and rationally understandable. I would be feel like s(&t and then I would feel bad for my kid and feel like s&#t again. So we will see how this plays out.
Search Query WWW: I love alll of it. I will say though that Mo Gun and Ta Mi are the least interesting romance. I don't care at all about them. The real tea is with Ga Kyung and Jin Woo. OMG, their scene at his side house 🤷♀️, was excellent. Her screaming at him to not eat her nasty food and him eating anyway. The fact that he is clearly willing to divorce her, date her, and marry her again. I ship it so hard. It's weird because although there isn't a great deal of character development, I just like them together. Now my next favorite couple is Cha Hyeon and the Ji Hwan. My goodness are they adorable. Her joy not only of him but that silly drama he is in is my absolute favorite part. I really really hope this ship sails. As for Team Barro fighting, but honestly I kind of want Unicom to win, I really like Ga Kyung as a character and want great things for her. As the same time team Barro is doing such a great job, regardless I will be watching this fabulous drama.
Chief of Staff: We have come to the apex of the drama. The Chief of Staff may need to turn the tables. This is such a great political drama, let the backstabbing commence. 😊
Watcher: I haven't found a sub yet, please show up, please up.
Arthdal: I'm in it. Eunseom come on, you can escape and be great. Also now that Tanya knows he is alive, hopefully there will not be a love triangle. Theirs is the only story I care about, lol.
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Dr.K assistant
July 6, 2019 at 5:57 AM
I think Dr.K isn't really dangerous, I think the show doesn't show him as dangerous but actually a capable doctor in the personality, it just the morning guy/Jang Cheol works within the law and the night guy/Dr.K willing to take side job. The transformation is weird but I get the sense that it's not the disease that makes him different, it's the trauma. Both of his personality can do the job with a different priority, the night guy will take the night job for the money for their mother but the morning guy will do it within the boundary for the law.
I am sorry if this complicated but it's good that he isn't a murderer.
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shach
July 6, 2019 at 6:37 AM
I noticed that there is new trend to have hot actors as charismatic villains post "Voice 1" but they usually lack KJW charisma to successfully pull to off and Noh MinWoo is no exception and overdramatic direction of personalities changes doesn't help him at all, or maybe because they paired it with episode dealing with schizophrenia that make it too much with me. They started so strong but now I'm not sure where they going this season.
I agree with everything regarding Survivor and WWW, and actor who play Ji Hwan is so hot when he smiles ;)
With Chief of Staff I wish our Chief would stop be the only clever boy in the room, it's getting hard to belive that he can play seasoned politician this easy, I expected them to be more cunning. And who leaves blackmail material in their workdesk, who!!!
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13infamyss
July 6, 2019 at 6:50 AM
The sad, revolting thing about this is Ga Gyeong marrying into his family one more time! As much as I appreciated the close bonds of Asian families, it’s the idea that marriage is not only a joint between the husband and wife but also a joint between two families. Wives especially need to serve the husband’s entire family. It sounds suffocating and tiring. Falling for Jin Woo for real this time will be her weakness as the
Mother in law will certainly use that to trap her one more time in the Oh family.
Anyways I really liked that part where Ga Gyeong confessed to Jin Woo now that she freed herself from the shackles, the next conflict she’s got is she has no where else to go! Whether she liked it or not, Jin Woo’s place had been her home. I’m glad he offered her a place to stay that wasn’t “their” home. I also liked the steps she’s taking in being an independent - cooking her own food, etc. I always forget she’s a chaebol lady too who didn’t know how to do these menial things
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sorrynotsorry
July 6, 2019 at 10:18 AM
I can't remember what drama it was, but there was a conversation between the female lead and her best friend wherein the lead explained the guy she was interested in had no parents as they'd passed away. The friend thought for a moment and said something like: weeeell that's not the worst thing really. I eventually understood the context. It's a harsh statement but no nightmare scenarios every Thanksgiving.
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Kafiyah Bello
July 6, 2019 at 11:37 AM
I agree, but I honestly think he would be willing to cut off his family to be with her. He seems independently wealthy and his mother doesn't care about him, she said as much, plus even if he wasn't wealthy Ga Kyung would probably be fine being the primary breadwinner.
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knewbie
July 6, 2019 at 7:33 AM
Re: Investigation Couple 2. I'm no expert on mental illness, but I thought the new story with the guy with schizophrenia was pretty good. I didn't get the impression that he was especially violent, just extremely sensitive to how others treated him and his son. Rather, the show seemed to be emphasising how others (including his own mother and social worker) constantly perceived him to be violent. I was also quite impressed that they addressed the question of how society should take care of people with serious mental issues. For example, the dilemma of the two cops was surprisingly subtly portrayed. Everyone blamed them for not having arrested the man earlier, but in fact they were kind to the man and his son, helping them to deal with the irate driver/customer and calling their social worker instead of just chucking the man in jail.
Now the case of Jang Cheol aka Dr K, on the other hand, seemed like complete cobblers to me. Not another Norman Bates type with a monstrous mother and multiple personalities to boot! To me it seems like a cheap way of letting Noh Min-woo do creepy things in his role without losing the sympathy of his legions of fans.
Anyway, we still don't know whether anyone has been murdered, let alone whether the guy is guilty. And with the two stooges I mean bigwig prosecutors assuming that he is guilty, I'm willing to bet that he'll turn out to be innocent.
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Kafiyah Bello
July 6, 2019 at 11:25 AM
This is a great interpretation. I will follow your lead.
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knewbie
July 7, 2019 at 2:44 AM
Thanks but frankly I'm keeping my fingers crossed. I THINK the case is okay so far, but Investigation Couple is not exactly known for being consistent, so it might still go where you and I fear it'd tread...
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FlyingTool
July 6, 2019 at 10:17 AM
The scenes with GG and her husband were so loaded with things unsaid, with the ghosts of might have beens, could have beens. Wonderfully acted!
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12 Moonbean
July 6, 2019 at 5:01 AM
I am on the road and traveling/holidaying for the next 6 weeks so I won't have much time to watch TV (bummer in terms of timing as many new shows I'm interested in are starting in July. I guess I need to binge them on my return), nor will I have much internet access for downloading. With the hectic preparations of the last week and trying to tie loose ends I haven't been able to watch much last week either.
Mother of Mine:
As I expected the Chairman acted all shrewd and cynical but in the end turned out to be a typical weak old man who is easily deceived by a pretty young woman (which really is a hateful character).
Still the marriage was totally unexpected. Mi Ri should have told Tae Joo the truth before getting married but it wouldn’t be a makjang weekend drama if she did (which unfortunately is the route the drama seems to be going towards). That was a truly awful wedding ceremony in which nobody but Tae Joo looked happy (how in the world he was so oblivious to her state of mind reflected on her face is beyond me – they are even dumming down the characters to make this stupid storyline work). Even if they were into this couple which viewer can enjoy this wedding or marriage?
I found it amusing that after seeing the awful uncle the office guys changed their tune about getting Mi Ri promoted to get rid of her.
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Moonbean
July 6, 2019 at 5:09 AM
Angel’s Last Mission: Love:
I was bored with Episode 13, the crazier Luna gets the more pointless everything becomes. She is outed as the villain. How does she think she will get away with it? Even Nina denounced her, so why is she persisting? What will she gain? Their misguided parents are enabling her by trying to save their deranged daughter. They should pay for their own crimes but it’s no favor to Luna to get her off the hook.
Episode 14 was marginally better due to the humor. The scene of Dan asking for the secretary’s blessing and many faces of Hoo while the soon to be newlyweds were shopping cracked me up.
There seems to be hope for Kang Woo and Nina yet.
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latebloomer
July 6, 2019 at 7:03 AM
But Dan as an angel ready to kill? That's just not who he is, and not something I want to watch.
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OldLawyer
July 6, 2019 at 5:38 PM
Killer Angels are not a new thing. The very first time an angel appears in the bible is when Adam and Eve are driven from the Garden of Eden- and God sets an angel at the entrance to prevent their return. An angel with a flaming sword. If Dan has to kill he can kill.
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latebloomer
July 6, 2019 at 5:45 PM
The angel with the sword stands between men and the garden, but he is not known to have cut anyone down. For Dan to kill would go against his nature personally and as an angel. It's not part of his mission. He has no authority to take a life. So he would be destroying himself in more ways than one. I hope the writer won't stoop that low, and will come up with a more creative way to stop Ru-na. Dan the killer angel would make me regret ever watching this show.
PakalanaPikake
July 7, 2019 at 12:18 PM
@lindag Kim Dan is a latebloomer, too!, @oldawyer,
I seem to recall an Angel of Death having been very busy in the land of Egypt on the first Passover, but that job was filled long ago. I cannot imagine Dan, originally a minor angel in charge of helping animals die, becoming a Cosmic Hit Man. I've taken him to be a guardian angel, which I see as more along the lines of the still, small voice within that tries to lead us out of temptation -- while still honoring humans' free will -- rather than as some kind of Heavenly
Terminator.
@moonbean, I agree about episode 14. The scene of Dan asking for Yeon-seo's hand, and Adult Supervision Jung's makjang response to it, had me roaring. Hoo's disguises still crack me up, especially the presence of his goatee when he's in drag. Yes, I am easily amused. --
Enjoy your travels! I'll miss your comments. ;-)
OldLawyer
July 6, 2019 at 5:42 PM
I agree that, at this point, the role of Luna seems to be over. But I also think that the evil relatives were always a sideshow. The heart of the story is the love of Dan and Yeon-seo. Their big problem is not Luna- it is the question of how to stay together.
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Moonbean
July 7, 2019 at 8:11 AM
I agree and that's why I wish they stop wasting time on the relatives and close that chapter already.
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Moonbean
July 6, 2019 at 5:18 AM
I have only seen one episode of Arthdal Chronicles this week. I don't like the politics and am bored of Eunsom's captivity but I still find Saya fascinating. The return of the Neanthals and the hidden cult following the older traditions also added to my level of interest.
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PakalanaPikake
July 7, 2019 at 1:54 PM
@moonbean,
I'm pretty much on the same page with you about ARTHDAL. I haven't seen Sunday's episode yet. Another Blue-Blood sighting? Yay! I just hope that the way Eunseom leaves the mine is not as a 95.32%-dead corpse.
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Moonbean
July 6, 2019 at 5:27 AM
WWW: Haven't watched this week's episodes yet but I'm still enjoying this very much. Scarlet is absolutely my most favorite character and I am loving her prospective romance with the young actor.
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thatstp
July 6, 2019 at 1:19 PM
Mother of Mine: Join me and @larelle79 as we ride this 'til the wheels fall off. I still can't believe Mi Ri agreed to live in the house with the chairman for 3 years.
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larelle79
July 6, 2019 at 2:51 PM
That's right !!! Ride or die. Ride or die.
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Moonbean
July 7, 2019 at 8:14 AM
Oh, I am with you both. The only problem is after about 2 weeks I need to give a 4 week break due to my travels and binge to catch up as we near the end (maybe that wouldn't be such a bad thing considering the direction we are headed!)
And I also can't believe she agreed, without even discussing with poor Tae Joo as well. He clearly had no wish to live there.
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13 outofthisworld 不愧是我 🏍
July 6, 2019 at 5:15 AM
This week I watched
- Designated Survivor:60 Days
- Jealousy Incarnate
- The Fiery Priest
on the fanwall.
3 dramas in 1 week - how did I do it? I flicked the pages as I would the FF button.
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outofthisworld 不愧是我 🏍
July 6, 2019 at 5:20 AM
and side dramas
My Absolute Boyfriend - robo comedy turned robo makjang.
Just like how they turned cute to creepy, this supposedly light hearted rom com is going to end with a big bang with meltdowns and exploding batteries.
WWW - I love that makjang drama within the drama. Who's the cute guy. This is how you do cute, MAB!
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Cloggie
July 6, 2019 at 5:23 AM
The makjang drama within WWW is so cute it literally made me squeal in delight.
Scarlett living the fangirl dream...
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13infamyss
July 6, 2019 at 6:54 AM
Hehehe. How fascinating is it that now she gets to be at the actual set watching the plot unfolds before her eyes! Scarlett, you’ve come a long way. As a fellow drama lover, I couldn’t be prouder. 👊
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13infamyss
July 6, 2019 at 7:10 AM
Also E did you watch Memories of the Alhambra? He was Marco in that drama and I still can’t for the life of me tell it was the same actor! This boy is great. Can’t wait to see him more in dramas; he’s got another one this year with Kim Hye Yoon!!!
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outofthisworld 不愧是我 🏍
July 6, 2019 at 8:00 AM
I did! And I didn't recognize him at all!
I am not all caught up on WWW yet, still on ep 8. I have to stop myself from FF to just Scarlett and his scenes. I can't put a finger to it. It's not like he's drop dead handsome or suave but I can't stop watching.
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13infamyss
July 6, 2019 at 8:39 AM
That’s the actor’s charm for sure. 😍 I was smitten the moment he gave a smile at Scarlett, who was looking so worried for injuring her hated makjang actor.
You have 2 more episodes, that’s not too bad. Ep 10 indeed grabbed my poor shipper’s heart!
Augh same, It was a struggle to sit through and wait till Scarlett and Ji Hwan show up on my screen but surprisingly I’ve lasted without the need to ff! Lol. Ga Gyeong’s story becomes interesting too, so that’s something to watch out for.
Cloggie
July 6, 2019 at 1:17 PM
Ep 10 is the best as @13infamyss says. I won't spoiler it by telling you why, but I'll just say that it was the one that made me squeal.
I really like the actor because of how elastic his face seems. There's such a huge difference between how he looks when he plays the evil character in the makjang drama, versus the nice guy he is around Scarlett. Really talented at playing these different personas.
It makes the contrast with some other people in the drama all the more obvious
Linda Palapala
July 6, 2019 at 11:08 AM
@outofthisworld Have you watched ep 31-32 of Absolute yet? I was all excited until they said the robot could be fixed. I know this is supposed to be a comedy but I've barely seen any comedy, though it might be hilarious if it does end with a bang and exploding batteries.
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outofthisworld 不愧是我 🏍
July 6, 2019 at 11:31 AM
Yes I have @linda-palapala
I couldn't believe the preview! I made up that stupid makjang ending for fun and it looks like the drama is actually headed that way, minus the "Da Da's hand for cure". Well, she did faint so it's still taking a toll on her. And everyone will be blaming Wang Joon again for being a douchebag because he dare asks Young Gu to leave Da Da for her sake. I can literally see it in my head - Wang Joon with his worried face and Young Gu looking sad. Gaaawwd....at least it's ending soon!
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Linda Palapala
July 6, 2019 at 11:41 AM
I've come to absolutely hate the song "You Are My Destiny". What destiny? Sheesh. And her dad saying love the one who only sees you - gag me.
I don't have a love/hate relationship with this show, it's a hate/hate relationship that I'm loving.
Linda Palapala
July 7, 2019 at 2:27 PM
@outofthisworld Please forgive, but I've thought of another great ending: they fix the robot who then is perfect in every way, you know, like he only has eyes for her, a total romantic, yada, yada. So then the makers produce Zero 9 duplicates en masse. They sell like hotcakes to all the girls who are sick of imperfect males and now won't have to bother with any male egos in their relationships.
outofthisworld 不愧是我 🏍
July 7, 2019 at 10:01 PM
@linda-palapala
I don't know if a robot bf like 09 will truly sell like hotcakes. He has Zero personality other than loving his 'Yeoja Chingu'(doesn't it drive you nuts that he still calls her that and not by her name?).
This is show's greatest flaw - they failed to give us a robot which we will root for no matter how skeptical we are of a human-robot romance.
PakalanaPikake
July 7, 2019 at 2:06 PM
@linda-palapala, @outofthisworld,
It boggles my mind that, according to AsianWiki, the early working title of MY ABSOLUTE BOYFRIEND was ROKOKING (ROMANTIC COMEDY KING) because there's been precious little comedy, and not much romance, either. MY DELUDED HOSTAGE-TAKER might be closer to the reality. MY CYBORG STALKER if you want to put the emphasis on Diana. Or from Mawang-joon's perspective: THE ACTOR LOVES.
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Linda Palapala
July 7, 2019 at 2:28 PM
Please see my above ending for AB.
outofthisworld 不愧是我 🏍
July 7, 2019 at 9:43 PM
You are right @pakalanapikake
They did try to do comedy but fell flat, it's the same with the romance.
gadis
July 6, 2019 at 6:00 AM
Pfft... I can relate to this. The Fiery Priest's spam is probably the worst. It took me so long to wade through fan wall to read the other beanies' posts.
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thatstp
July 6, 2019 at 1:25 PM
All of the spam is wearing thin for me. Day after day, it's too much. I scrolled for 3 pages to get to something other than spam.
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Linda Palapala
July 6, 2019 at 9:54 AM
IMO Jealousy Incarnate is difficult to get into until about the 14th episode (or was it the 8th? I don't remember) but then it gets really good.
Hey, I'm the ff queen. But I've been de-throned, esp since finishing The Legends - I did not fast forward thru a single second, loved the writing, the awesome demoness, all the side characters and their stories. And the butterflies. And the chemistry between not just the OTP but all the characters had chemistry. Well done, I say!
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outofthisworld 不愧是我 🏍
July 6, 2019 at 9:59 AM
Sorry @linda-palapala, I was referring to a new kind of drama watching. I've no idea about the episodes. If you are curious, stick around on Beanies during weekdays for the daily drama.
*sigh* Legends. I need to pick this back up one day. But Xu Kai has another drama coming up I think.
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Linda Palapala
July 6, 2019 at 1:37 PM
He has a couple of dramas coming up: Arsenal Military Academy which is also with Bai Lu (yay!) and Ode to the Daughter of Great Tang.
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thatstp
July 6, 2019 at 1:27 PM
I saw The Legends is on Viki now but not fully subbed. I am patiently waiting. Hopefully, the subbers won't drop it.
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Linda Palapala
July 6, 2019 at 1:35 PM
It's fully subbed on my Viki, in English anyway.
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thatstp
July 6, 2019 at 1:49 PM
Sorry, it's not The Legends but Age of Legends.
Linda Palapala
July 6, 2019 at 2:16 PM
@thatstp I tend to get those mixed up too, have to really think first! You're right, on Viki Age of Legends is going to take awhile to sub all the way. But hey, I waited 6 months for it to be subbed on YouTube, just to hear what happened and the conversation they had at the end. Then I smacked my head and went "Duh!" I shoulda figured that one out!
14 welh
July 6, 2019 at 5:21 AM
ANGEL'S LAST MISSION. The reveal that every human's life is controlled by fate negates the entire long story line of Dan trying to find a way to become human. It is easy to see how the show will end.
ONE SPRING NIGHT. The long, sluggish relationship journey appears to be heading to a 180/skip Pretty Noona ending because there is not enough time to wrap up all the characters' issues.
GREAT ESCAPE 2. Finished the season. The later episodes are not as intense as Season 1, but the idea that the team needs to remember past episode clues to solve current issues was good. Production values still great, but it seems to run thin on future story lines.
MAFIA GAME IN PRISON. This show was fun but got repetitive until recently went the warden adds new rules to the game.
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15 Kurama
July 6, 2019 at 5:29 AM
Investigation Couple 2 I like it. The daughter is safe! She can continue to marry off her mother with a schizophrenic doctor.
Designated Survivor: 60 Days I really liked the 2 episodes. But I had a doubt and I thought I had read wrong and Lee Joon Hyuk was not in this drama. I love Son Suk Goo as an actor :D
Angel's Last Mission: Love Great kissing scene. It's kind the only thing I remember in the plot that is very confusing.
One Spring Night I don't want it to end >_<
Search Query: WWW I just love Gakyung's couple. They are kinda cute. Her parents are worst than Jung In's One Spring Night ones. I'm happy she decided to quit this family.
Voice 3 So the season was disapointing because they continue with the same "we don't trust Kang Woo" plot. But the best parts were when he was with in his team, so a lot of the story was wasted. I'm still curious for Voice 4.
SuperBand It sucks because I can find the episodes but their performances on youtube are great!
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CS
July 6, 2019 at 7:53 AM
Yes! I have loved the SuperBand YouTube clips! I wish I could see more of the show or even just more about it. The performances are fantastic!
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Kurama
July 6, 2019 at 8:13 AM
I can't help myself to listen Wake Me Up cover. It's so good!
I found some episodes but the sound is awful, it kinda sucks for a music show and without subtitles.
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Kurama
July 7, 2019 at 6:33 AM
So I watched the first episode of Watcher and it's so good! I want more!
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16 marina
July 6, 2019 at 5:39 AM
Laica said:
The husband who is quietly, yearningly in love with his powerful, coldly charismatic wife. (God their relationship is my favorite romance plotline in the drama—I am rooting so hard for them to just run away together and leave their toxic families to torment each other.)
The end.
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17 Aya
July 6, 2019 at 5:46 AM
Search WWW - You guys I just love this show :( and as Laica said above I loved the endings of both episodes this week so much especially where we just got to spend time with the team and the OST like I just felt warm inside. Also I will defend Mo Gun with my life until he actually does something legit creepy because so far he’s just been a cute guy who’s a little cheesy, I really don’t get everyone’s beef with him. Cha Hyeon has basically acted just as obsessive and weird with Ji Hwan and people are finding it adorable, maybe that’s the commentary the show is going for I don’t know but it’s starting to get annoying seeing people complain and then praise what is essentially the same behaviour. If Cha Hyeon where a man would her obsession with Ji Hwan be as cute to people? I don’t think so. Either way, I love both couples and they’re all just adorable together. Ga Kyeong continues to both irritate the hell out of me (leave Ta Mi alone!) and fascinate me endlessly, her scenes this week being particularly amazing and even her relationship with her husband is one I’m finding myself rooting for. She’s just so sad and he loves her so much.
Also off topic kind of but I’ve definitely noticed and even seen it pointed out by a couple of translators that Jang Kiyong is starting to get odd hate comments seemingly out of the blue this week and I definitely think people are finding out he’s signed to yg as they search him more. Its the only explanation that makes sense tbh because his clips for this show trend in the top 5 of Naver tv top 100 after every episode and always with positive comments but this week the comments have been weirdly negative for no reason. I hope for his sake he doesn’t have long left on his contract and is at least considering leaving that hell hole.
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Miranda
July 6, 2019 at 8:13 AM
I am fiercely in love with WWW. I love every single relationship on that show, including Ta Mi and Ga Gyeong's corrupted friendship - I even think I understand it, with GG getting sold into basically a life of servitude and watching Ta Mi continue the trajectory of freedom. Envy is a powerful thing, and I think it goes bone-deep with Ga Gyeong regarding Ta Mi, while she's never envied Hyeon, just loved her.
Speaking of Hyeon, it does look like she had one powerful crush on Ga Gyeong when they were teenagers, but that doesn't make her a secret lesbian today, or even make that a dropped storyline. A lot of girls have extremely powerful, highly charged crushes on another girl that aren't very different from the ones they have on boys. I really like that the overwhelming crush is shown, as is the fondness and hero-worship the two of them still have between them.
Hyeon's accidental total possession of her actor is hilarious. Unlike the magical oppa versions of this story, I never got the feeling that Hyeon was taking actions on Ji Hwan's behalf because she was attracted to him. She felt responsible, then outraged, then sympathetic - but they're all pieces of her core being responding to situations he happens to be in. That she's completely blindsided by his direct attraction to her is completely adorable, and when he states it the way he did - well yeah, who WOULDN'T fall in love with Hyeon?
As for Mo Gun... He does not bother me one bit. I've known guys like him, and while they are INCREDIBLY rare, they are a different sort of unnerving from stalkers. It's this self-confidence paired with actual competence, and then a laser-like focus on the woman who he likes. But it's not creepy. It's just... surety. I can understand why people get some stalker vibes off of the things he does, but the thing is, he doesn't overstep and he does understand boundaries. Unlike a stalker who basically lays traps, he just lays out opportunity and if the woman doesn't take it, he stops.
I think the best illustration of Mo Gun's essential character (and why he's not a creepy stalker) is at Ta Mi's apartment. He leaves and doesn't lurk in the hallway; he takes himself out of her sight in the elevator before going into shutdown mode. When she opens the door, he asks her if he should stay before making a move. Then he tells her to take him inside. He asks her outright if she wants him. Then he won't kiss her until she promises not to kick him out the next morning. It's not "can I kiss you" or "is this okay", but this process is a type of informed consent. For me it's even more powerful because it's not "can I do this to you", it's "I'm asking you to do this to me". It's collaborative and very adult in the way mature people act in relationships, and in particular how a fully-formed, adult individual can negotiate what parts of them they'll cede to overwhelming chemistry.
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Aya
July 6, 2019 at 9:18 AM
Right, he's always been respectful, enough that Ta Mi felt comfortable sharing a bedroom with him out of town and the only time she mentioned being scared she was talking about her attraction to him and not actual safety. And really you put all my thoughts on Mo Gun into words so thanks for that, it's just been bothering me that people keep trying to turn him into some creep for what seems like no reason other than their simple dislike of him.
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thatstp
July 6, 2019 at 1:31 PM
Same.
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agoodheart
July 6, 2019 at 8:14 AM
Agree with you, I don't get why people have problems with Mo-gun. To me it's a given that everyone conveniently appears at the 'right' time to move the story forward, it's like that in every drama. One example is Sky Castle which I watched recently.
Yikes that Jang Ki-yong is signed with YG. Hope he leaves soon.
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soulsearch12
July 6, 2019 at 2:48 PM
Regarding the Naver TV thing, I noticed that the clips from the show do really well (trending/skewed very heavily towards the female audience since they seem to be the majority upvoting it).
That being said, I feel like the more one gets more popular the more people want to start 'hating' and honestly its so eye roll inducing. He was signed to YG K model/acting agency since 2014 I believe, same with Nam Joo Hyuk and Lee Sung-kyung. Way before the YG destruction came about, since his leading role in 2018 and supporting roles that earned him acclaim/awards.
Its a tricky/hard situation b/c of the serious situation rn with YG. Reminds me of Hollywood/CAA situation with Weinstein going down. He's a big rising star who has shown he has the acting chops as well, so I hope that he doesn't get affected. Whatever occurs, I would never blame the actors b/c its such a difficult situation, hope for the best and that he leaves that hell hole of a company asap and signs on with a better agency.
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18 Kairoskat 💐
July 6, 2019 at 5:50 AM
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19 greenfields
July 6, 2019 at 5:50 AM
@laica - thank you for your detailed comment on WWW because you literally said it all. This is why I love this show so much. Honestly if it keeps this up, it might even enter my small 10/10 list just because it's such a rare gem.
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LT is Irresistibly Indifferent and reminded of the slow march of death
July 6, 2019 at 11:47 AM
Gah! I don't see it, I just don't see it.
Usually when people love something and I don't I can at least see why they love it and why I don't.
But I don't see it in WWW. I just don't know what the show is about.
After this weekend I'll only have two airing shows left so maybe I will pick it up back up later.
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Linda Palapala
July 6, 2019 at 3:57 PM
Thanks for saying that! I don't see it either. I usually feel in the minority with most things.
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greenfields
July 6, 2019 at 5:50 PM
Maybe you're not in the right space for it? It IS without doubt a weird show. Just that the weirdness is working for many? 😅 I also disagree with your assessment that the drama doesn't know what it is - it does, imho. But again, it's a weird one so it may not work for some.
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20 Kairoskat 💐
July 6, 2019 at 5:53 AM
I'm watching Perfume and still only Perfume 💜
It's funny and touching. Jae Hee/Ye Rin is awesome, she's learning from her mistakes and taking steps to get away from her husband also she's great at handling the two bros. Jin Kyung being awesome and stopping her mum from quiting half way. Ji Na being awesome for supporting Ye Rin eventhough the guy she likes, likes Ye Rin and not her. Yi Do is awesome for being him. Minsuk is awesome for pushing Yi Do-Ye Rin/Jae Hee closer. Yi Do's secretary is awesome for being Jae Hee's person who knows her body change secret. Everyone is awesome except sleazy husband and Min Suk's sasaeng fans. Haha
I'm so excited for next week's episodes!!! 😆
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YY Chats with Toast Between Bites
July 6, 2019 at 9:08 AM
I'm only watching Perfume and fastforwarded to my favourite couple in Mother of Mine, the youngest sister and the publisher. I find this couple soooo romantic. He's seven years older than her, but he's so hot, omg, and I love their scenes together. I don't watch any of the other subplots, too melo for me. I must be the only person in the world rooting for this couple, because everyone seems to hate her...I think she's sweet, and he's so handsome, so, yeah, I'm shallow...who cares about crazy in-laws when all I want is a dose of sweet heartskipping moments, and these two have got plenty.
Perfume always makes me laugh and cry. I'm terrified of the husband, he's so creepy, with his fixation on the young Ye rin. I know she's his wife, but it still creeps me out the way he ogles her and stalks her.
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lemoncello
July 7, 2019 at 5:26 AM
Waaaahhhh... on "Mother of Mine": I've dropped the show long ago, but still watch the clips on Youtube; and only watch the publisher & maknae's love story. I'm too tired with Miri & Tae-joo's plot (in addition to Miri's birth mother & Tae-joo's dad). I didn't see their love story quite natural. I don't know, I just don't feel it. The oldest plot sometimes quite hilarious with her husband.
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YY Chats with Toast Between Bites
July 7, 2019 at 8:42 AM
I'm so happy to find someone who likes the publisher love story too. We are the only two people in the world who like their love story lol. Everyone else seems to hate the youngest daughter. I find her so cute and so sweet.
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lemoncello
July 7, 2019 at 5:28 AM
"Perfume" is awesome! The last two episodes really gave me a heart, including Ye-rin/Jae-hee's conversation with Yi-Do's mother about why Yi-Do's hating her; or why the brothers hate each other.....
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Kairoskat 💐
July 7, 2019 at 3:59 PM
It is awesome! The show has heart in abundance 💜.
Here's the preview for Perfume ep 21-22 hihihi
https://youtu.be/R91RpwZ4LA0
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lemoncello
July 8, 2019 at 7:57 AM
I love the fact that Yi-do still loves Min Jae-hee no matter what happens in her life, like she got obessed. And this is so parralel with his favourite book, “Love in the Time of Cholera”
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21 gadis
July 6, 2019 at 5:55 AM
@mary Your post about Great Escape for the last several weeks finally prompted me to marathon it this week, and I'm enjoying it so much. Yoo Byung-jae is still my favorite member (he is just so unexpectedly smart). I was half-laughing half-crying when Kang Ho-dong volunteered himself as the guinea pig for the green laser thing in Red Eyes eps, especially when he mumbled pitifully about how the program suddenly turned into Real Man.
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mary
July 6, 2019 at 2:36 PM
It was hilarious when the editing team rolled back the footage and he actually hit the sensors a lot of times, but they left him alone to crawl around anyway. XD
Plus squeezing together in the shower while the security guy begs his boss to let him do a #2! LOL
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Beanies206
July 8, 2019 at 7:01 AM
Kim Jong Min has been my favourite variety star for a while and I was so sad that he got separated from the rest with P.O. I always feel like KJM can do more especially in horror episodes since he is not afraid of ghosts. He could be the one opening the doors but he held back for the sake of the rest. Plus, I think the staff expect them to escape by themselves but they couldn't solve the puzzle.
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Beanies206
July 8, 2019 at 7:02 AM
Or the pet was not able to do as they want it to do.
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Beanies206
July 8, 2019 at 6:55 AM
KHD is the last person they should choose for stealth. But it was hard to get through without seeing the laser. Makes me wonder if the filming suppose to be at night or it was done on purpose for the sake of the prison episode.
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22 pcch2345
July 6, 2019 at 6:03 AM
hope everyone's doing well!
last few days i managed to watch:
Arthdal: the only on-air show that i'm up to date and i'm keen to know what's going to happen with the characters and the storyline. Though honestly i don't know my own expectations from this show, sometimes its just so all over place...LOL
Secret Life of My Secretary: i'm almost at the end now, so glad its over...personally i won't miss this one at all but i had to watch it for KYk:-) his smile is so wonderful.
Goblin: one cannot be a fan of kdramas without hearing about Goblin, so finally started watching this show for the first time & while i pretty much know what's going to happen, i'm still amazed how visually stunning this show it...there are newer shows out there now, but Goblin's production will look great for years to come i think
Are You Human?: started this week only, i think this is the first show i'm watching that has Seo Kang-joon in it.
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PakalanaPikake
July 7, 2019 at 2:41 PM
@pcch2345,
Seo Kang-joon's performance in ARE YOU HUMAN TOO is a stunner. I'd earlier seen him in the Joseon saguek HWAJUNG / SPLENDID POLITICS, in which he was rather stiff -- which isn't too surprising, given the genre. I'm impressed to bits with his performances as Nam Shin and Nam Shin III. (Another great performance of multiple roles: Yang Se-jong in DUEL, which aired before this show. He is nothing short of phenomenal as he plays a pair of clones, one clone impersonating the other, and their donor. His subtlety during the impersonation is amazing.) Sadly, other aspects of AYHT didn't live up to SKJ's performance. One bright spot: Lee Joon-hyuk's turn as Nam Shin's companion. (You might want to catch his nifty little drama special NAKED FIREMAN. Very enjoyable.)
In his next drama, SJK and co-star Esom did splendid, nuanced jobs of emoting in THE THIRD CHARM, but the story itself became so depressing I lost the will to live well before the end. They were magnificent in their depiction of a dysfunctional relationship that started out between an OCD nerd and a feisty girl from the wrong side of the tracks.
There's a robotic component in CUNNING SINGLE LADY, Seo Kang-joon's fourth drama.
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pcch2345
July 8, 2019 at 12:49 AM
thanks, will definitely check these out:-)
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23 geminirat
July 6, 2019 at 6:06 AM
One spring night is still making me all interested in what will happen to the sisters. All three have minds of their own and if before, Seo-in let her father have his way, now she is fighting for her own decision. Her mother's decision to leave and then suddenly come back is confusing for me. Why doesn't she have the same backbone as her daughters?
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stberry
July 6, 2019 at 7:30 AM
I think she came back because she could see that JI was going to have a hard time with her father. She might not know what exactly was bad about JH at the time, but I think she knew it was going to be difficult. She essentially went back to the lion's den so she can support her daughter, not because she didn't have backbone, I mean no one was trying to push her to come back anyway, so I'd like to think that was her own choice.
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Miranda
July 6, 2019 at 8:20 AM
The mom doesn't actually have the same backbone as her daughters - different generation, totally different expectations of women. She doesn't really stand up to her husband, though she's doing a lot of soft-power moves... Honestly I just don't think she's got it in her to really change circumstances. Seo In is very similar, when you think of it.
Seo In is extremely lucky to have two younger sisters with the level of fire they have. They're showing her an example and shoring her up to make hard decisions, and they clearly adore her. Jung In is quiet but made of steel, and Jae In is clear-eyed about situations but hides nothing in her reactions. I can imagine Seo In being bullied by her father into staying in that marriage with her mother silently agonizing; I cannot imagine Seo In staying in that marriage now that Jae In knows she's getting hit, because Jae In will in a state of permanent nuclear meltdown until Seo In is safe. Jae In does appear to have some sense when it comes to managing her parents, but if it comes down to her father insisting that Seo In stay in the marriage, I think Jae In will go OFF on him in a way he can't even imagine.
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24 OldLawyer
July 6, 2019 at 6:37 AM
My Wife and I have just finished RICH MAN.
ANGELS LAST MISSION is my favorite show but has serious flaws. Shin Hye-sun is brilliant. Lee Dong-gun is wasted in this show- something I can clearly see now that I am also watching LAUREL TREE TAILORS.
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Kurama
July 6, 2019 at 7:23 AM
Lee Dong Gun is in talk for the remake of Leverage (US) as the team chief.
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OldLawyer
July 6, 2019 at 10:03 AM
Leverage was a successful show.
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RevSparklyAndroid
July 6, 2019 at 10:13 AM
Leverage is one of my all time favorite shows. I've watched each episode countless times and eventually treated myself to the entire boxset.
A KDrama remake?! I'm so in. Please be awesome is all I ask!
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OldLawyer
July 6, 2019 at 11:44 AM
I think that Lee Dong-gun is a perfect fit for the lead in such a re-make. He is actually one of my favorite actors (So Ji Sub is another). If there is writing to match the casting then this will be a good show.
thatstp
July 6, 2019 at 1:34 PM
I really liked the first 3 seasons of Leverage.
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