Enjoy TSLOMS, the fish cult, and Veronica Park! Have a nice drama watching day, @sneha!

It was 2003 for Europe.
It killed 15000 persons in my country.

HEY YOU GIRL - Only teenage girls will go Kyaaah Kyaaah. I liked the trailer but yes movie has disappointed me. Cricket Match is more interesting.

@coolgirl ahh. People don't take Heat seriously. I'm regularly getting scold by my mom for my antic because of it.

I'm scolding mine because she's getting old and not taking it seriously! :)

I hope she does, too. I am very afraid for her....it was scary to see how eager her dad and her husband were to keep her captive.

OMG, are there really two Directors?
Hahaha!

apparently the two directors don't talk to each other?

LOL! Jung Ji Hyun directed Mr. Sunshine, I did not hear any complains on the camera work though from that show...
Second one is new or maybe he teleported from 90s or is talking via walki-talky from there so we get the blurred images....

@oppafangirl
*nods wisely*
Yes, I hear temporal distortions are terrible on film quality. Maybe they should have used a Director from this side of the singularity?

I'm thinking more Devo like moves, or maybe the back up dancer moves from Addicted to Love?

After I wrote that I realized SNF was in the 80s - but DEVO - if I remember right they had some crazy music videos.
I remember the TV in the record store playing music videos when MTV started. I was hooked!

Yeah I have no interest in that one

I think Arthdal is mine. I stopped 10 minutes in.

Yep. What bothered me most with the confession was Ye Rin most probably had no clue he was going to do that. The confession will attract more problems than solving the issue in hand. I can't wait to see what happens next. Excited2!

I didn't expect to feel so much sadness Fukuda and Hiroshi. A happy ending is inexistent for this kind of story (Nokdu Flower says hello too).

Hahaha nooo, please, if you only watch the first four episodes of Save Me 1 you will probably drop it, because it is all so dreary; 1-4 is the backstory of how the family got dragged into the cult, and it gets pretty oppressive. The thriller bit doesn't begin until episode 5 or so, but it pays off to endure till then. Waiting to find some time for the second series myself...

Re. actors: Woo Do-hwan and Go Joon. That's all I have to say :-) . Seriously though, don't worry on that score. This is a good drama.

There are some drama vets in s1 too and they all elevated the show. My favorite is the creeptastic Jo Sung-ha. He won the DB yearend fir Best Villain and I got to write the blurb hehe maybe cos the Overlords notice me raving about his evility :D

The young ‘uns aren’t too bad either. You probably already heard all the noise about Woo Do-hwan. There’s a reason people watched the ???? Great Seducer for him haha, but Seo Ye-ji was amazing too and carried the cornered and desperate arc very well.

Chicago Typewriter is one of my all time favorite Kdramas. I even bought a copy so I would have it available always. I will need to search for the film though as I didn't know about that.

Burning was shortlisted for Oscars and won at Cannes and a lot more other film festivals, YAI was amazing in his role though I did not get the movie when I watched it but thinking about it for the next few days was really rewarding, I may even rewatch it for some more details.

So far I'm having a little trouble finding Burning anywhere. Where have you seen it recently?

Kissasian has it, though viki does not have it, I don't know about Netflix, I am not its fan.

Burning is on Netflix in the US.

It... wasn’t really my type of movie... lol.

@mindy ah Netflix! No wonder. Thank you!

@zzthorn,

I can sympathize. The battened-down sangtus [topknots] covered with gats and winged caps is one reason why I prefer sageuks set in the Three Kingdoms era: free-range manes of glory. Unless I am already familiar with at least some of the members of the cast, it's murder trying to distinguish between all the goateed geezers at court in Joseon. Throw in dismal mood lighting and a cast of thousands, and I go bonkers trying to figure out who is who.

Yes, PakalanaPikake, exactly!!

Same for me. Couldn't even watch the original Scarlet Heart - gave it a shot but I find baldness generally unattractive and couldn't tell the difference between all the brothers to boot. Re Korea, give me Goryeo over Joseon any day so I don't have to look at those hats that would make the most rebellious character look prim!

Manes of glory -> Hwarang

well, don't say i didn't warn ya...
*tries again to erase memory*

Lol. LJS is kind of like John Wayne in that he just plays himself every time.

especially if you have a dog....

I completely agree with your comment.
I think the problem with people not recognizing Yeon Seo's selfishness and self centeredness is that she's played by an excellent actress: Shin Hye Sun who is very good at making people empathize with her character even when she's not sympathetic.
Also it's easier to overlook the flaws when shipping the character.

To me, Yeon Seo can't compare to Chun Hyang: both were shaped by their environment but it's the only common point.
For Chun Hyang, life was an endless road of hardship. She was poor, forced to work after school, living alone with an irresponsible and immature mother that
spent all the money she won for the rent in useless things.
Yeon Seo has it all: her two loving parents until she reached 17 years old and Mr Jo after that as substitute family, money, talent, beauty.
When life hit her hard, she had resources to recover unlike Chun Hyang, who got her life all messed up by Mong Ryong and could only hide and try again far from him.

Not all heroines must be role model, but there's a balance to keep when it's the lead heroine who is concerned, because it can spoil the interest for a drama.

I personally dislike Yeon Seo, i pity her sometimes but mostly don't care about her happiness.
It's funny because i think that she's been more a victim of Dan than the other way. He lied and deceived her so many times, but yet the more he ran away, the more she ran after him.
Now, he's being very possessive with her.
For me, it looks like a mutual obsession more than love.

You're right to point that she looks down on the people who work for her. They are used and dismissed as if they are objects. Getting paid a lot more to give up self respect.

I suppose that we are both hooked more on the mystery and that's why we keep watching. I'm curious to see how this will be resolved: predictable happiness or shocking sad twist?

Sorry, if i have been too intense about my feelings for those characters. I realized while writing what bugged me so much about Yeon Seo since i started to watch ALML, and i needed to be loud about it.

I feel the need to clarify my point:
I'm not making generalizations about what one should act when turning down someone else's feelings. Especially for us girls and women. We all know it can become dangerous if the man is unstable, sometimes life threatening. Also, it's not our responsability to take care of their ego.

But Yeon Seo and Chun Hyang's rejections have a context, the one provided by the drama. Before rejecting the second leads, the two girls have been rejected by the first leads few times. Their hearts were broken and yet they couldn't get over their feelings. Basic empathy is why i expected them to be understanding of the second lead's feelings.
Unrequited feelings work also both ways: those male supporting characters didn't chose to fall in love. It happened to them.

And to finish to complicate things, Chun Hyang and Hak Do were friends when he confessed. It's hard to act cold and blunt when you know well the other person. So i really understand the dilemma of Chun Hyang.

For Yeon Seo, i disagree with your perception. Everyone is saying she's rude, even Dan. What happened with Kang Woo is just another example of her horrible personality.

If you check back Kang Woo's lines, you'll see that he never pretended to be better than Dan. When he confessed his feelings on the beach, he didn't try to break a happy couple. She was once more running after Dan and in tears because she was left again only with promises. Kang Woo offered her to
lean on him instead.

I don't contest that she had a right to tell him that she wouldn't fall for him in any case and that she doesn't want to talk about it anymore.
But he wasn't pursuing her at that precise time. He missed the practise to avoid her. She came after him to his office, she brought the subject of his feelings, he didn't.

If he wants to wait and reminds her once a while of his feelings, she can't forbid him to do it. There was no need to tell him to get over his feelings immediately as if it was a switch to turn, as if she had no memory how she pursued and harassed Dan to love her during weeks.

She made already herself clear after the audition that she wanted only a professional relationship and she was polite that time (in a good mood because she won).
But if she expects sincerely to have a good professional relationship with him, she shouldn't have told him this time she hoped he would hate her.
As a ballet director, he was always on her side, defending her right to dance again. Didn't she thank him for believing in her? What kind of collaboration does she expect with a man who would wallow in negative feelings because of her? That's just another way to keep the person obsessed, For me it's cruel and needless.

I'm all...

I'm all for girl power but not at the expanse of basic humanity.

@coolgirl

I think this is a case of 'lost in translation'...
What actually happened is 1) LYS reiterated to KW the point that she is not interested in anything romantic 2) he completely ignored her words and said sth to the tune Dan won't be around for long... so I'll wait for you to get over him. Now is the critical bit... what she actually said was 'rather than you waiting (for sth that has no chance of happening) I would rather you hated me (for now so you can move on properly'. I was actually very proud of her level headed and unequivocal refusal of him. There was no option of things changing tomorrow, no excuse for false hope.

The nice leads in kdramas could take a lesson or two from LYS - if so there would be a lot fewer deluded second leads out there.

Of course KW is completely oblivious to reason so he fails to get it regardless. But given his behavior she did 100% the right thing imo.

@charlieblue17
I don't get your point : who lost what in translation?

I have made my point clear on the reasons why she should care more about the way she rejected Kang Woo and why what she said was mostly stupid.
I have no interest in debating more with people who want to defend a character like Yeon Seo.

Strong heroines are on other dramas: look for something else than romcom and you'll understand better that makes the difference between real strength and immaturity.

@charlieblue17
I just realized after rereading this discussion that actually this debate makes no sense: her boyfriend Dan is dead, called back for a short time on Earth as guardian angel to say goodbye to her but he's supposed to join paradise soon.
Though he refuses to let go of her.

That's why Kang Woo wants to wait: to see if one day she can move on and try to be happy with someone like him.

When she rejected Kang Woo she had no idea that her guardian angel would disappear and she would end her life alone.

So really to treat him like a basic second lead who tries to pressure the girl to date him even by destroying her actual happiness is a lie. And the comparison with One Spring Night is completely out of place.

Sorry @coolgirl I agree with the others.
Yeonsoo has no obligation to be considerate of Kang Woo's feeling. Especially since she's told him repeatedly she doesn't like him and has asked him to be professional. In the "real world" his behaviour would be sexual harassment. This is her workplace and she's asked him to just behave like her Director more than one.

I think she's awesome for just shutting him down when he's repeatedly so far out of line. I mean, "I'll just wait till you get abandoned and move in then".

Unbelievable. He's a total douche.

@leetennant

That's your opinion to think that she has no obligation to be a decent human being, i will continue to tell that she's a ruthless girl and a shameless heroine.

You won't make me change my mind or make her magically better just because you keep repeating it.

And I'm not even a fan of his character So you can say what you want about him.

You should be more careful about bringing real life issues as sexual harassment, especially without understanding the concept. It can make the discussion triggering for others readers
But it's up to you.

Hopefully he will soon get over her with the help of another girl.
It should be quite easy actually since it would be hard for him to meet worse.

Oh, sure, the man who's obsessively stalking a woman because she looks like his dead ex is definitely going to "get over her with the help of another girl".

@leetennant

I was just thinking yesterday that in any professional workplace Kang Woo's behavior would be sexual harassment and forgot to write about it. Thank you for bringing up. This is serous. No means no. As her director he has no right to keep bringing it up after she refused him.