That would be great. KS would be visiting like a normal college student and eat whatever is in the fridge because he wants to know what his mom's cooking taste like.
Yup. It would be great to see more scene with MR, KS and her parents. I bet they wouldve a blast at the noraebang.

OMG yes, I do remember you mentioning this. I really hope noraebang with Kyungsuk and Mirae's fam happens and that in laws will meet up too before the drama ends!

Ohhh TT_____TT That would be so great to see - Kyungsuk coming over to his mom and sis's place and act like a normal son would do at home. I was actually worried when mom told Kyunghee to eat by herself. Like whoa, they just started living in but circumstances are already kicking in with issues. But thank goodness, I was worried for nothing! I`m like Mirae, overthinking, lol. I think this might the the normalization of relationship you are referring to. She looked so happy in her new filming set and enjoying the leftover fried rice!

And also would like to comment on that part where the siblings were arguing on the street. Kyunghee was deadset on not coming back to dad's place and Kyungsuk was like - I`m not taking you there. Kyunghee - where? Kyungsuk then said - she's probably gonna cry tears of joy once she hears you're coming. Like auuugh TT_____TT

"she's probably gonna cry tears of joy "
This guy is a quick learner eh.. he learns something and then keeps applying it ; )

@kimbapnoona We are all eagerly waiting for a family noraebang.. I hope they give us 2 episodes of joy and nothing but joy!

Couldn't agree more. I also loved how he can put two and two together without anyone saying anything. When that co-worker guy said that it was Mirae who introduced the job to Soo Ah, Kyungsuk looked like he believed it - but man, that was so awesome when he straight up asked Mirae what happened between them and that Soo Ah definitely told her something.

I so loved that about him. And winning piece in that scene - "They're not objects" ***smh, Kyungsuk how can I love you more?***

That last scene tho - TT____TT He wants to be part of her life so bad, that even just a little hint of liking him is enough.

I also love how KS can see straight through SA and knows that she doesn't even like him. But I do wish that he would impart some of that wisdom to MR because she's still being manipulated by SA because of this misunderstanding.

LMAO I still can't get over how Soo Ah planned to tell Mirae off to Kyungsuk's mom. How low can she now get? She's resorted to she-did-this-she-did-that. smh. I`m so done. Let's cross our fingers this is the first and last time Soo Ah and CEO Na talk ever.

I didn't really want to mention the dad, but since you did I might as well just do it too. I`m glad that he's not stopping his kids now to come to their mom. Seriously that's the least he could do. And I`m not sorry that he now has the humongous house all to himself and no trace of Kyungsuk and Kyunghee living in there. He can't have everything after all he's done. He might have won the mayoral race, but he can't win his family back too. That's just way too cruel. CEO Na and kids need to move on without looking back.

*Finger's crossed* or else it'll raise my blood pressure.
I'm so done with Soo-Ah. Even if I get to know her story I won't like her at all.
Yes! I don't feel sorry for Dad but I was just happy that he didn't stop them. Ms. Na and the kids deserve their time together.^^

I wish they didn't write the dad character this way. From what they showed he didn't seem like a bad person, but was having a 'mindset' that a male is the head of household and deserves his families loyalties.
the whole 'hitting his wife' came too suddenly and felt out of character.
they can't really redeem him after all this.
of all the characters in this show, i thought his was the poorly written one in my opinion.

They made him more relatable in drama, in manhwa he is more of a caricature. That slap is an inherent part of the story, can't be crossed, @mayhemf

@mayhemf @allphryne How I see it is this - yes the dad is not completely an a.hole. When he said that he could finally sleep knowing Kyunghee is in a better place, that showed who he is deep down. That he does care about his kids and would rather let them stay at their mom's than be at a place he doesn't know where.

He lost his temper and ended up hitting his wife. It was a one time thing - it had never happened before and perhaps it will never happen again. But the damage was done. Even if he didn't have a history as a wife-beater, he still hit her because he snapped. Tragic, but he cannot undo it. He lost his wife and kids because of that one mistake.

@13infamyss The part that hit me the most was how he dealt with the consequences of him hurting her. Saying that he would make her happy and that she would be taken care of made me realize that he doesn't really understand his wife. Her sense of smell and her work is everything and he robbed that. There is nothing that he could have done to repay it but he thought he could throw money at the solution.

@luzitania True. Adding on to that - how heartbreaking is it that even her will to cook delicious food for her children is now restricted because of his mistake? She is unable to smell what she prepares for them. I thought I teared up in that scene.

Did he even say sorry to her? I don't remember. And the fact that he lied about it to his kids - all their life they've loathed her for abandoning them for another man.

This drama, indeed, shows us that the consequences of our actions - whether we did it intentionally or not, a one time or recurring action.

@13infamyss I don't remember him saying I am sorry. Not only did he not apologize but lying to his children about it was unacceptable. No wonder he is left all alone in his huge house.

Omg, now I have to check out Prison Playbook! It's on my list, but I haven't been able to watch it yet. He's fantastic here.

I loved him so much in that...

Isn't he also in the Undateables? the nerd cousin who became playboy after the makeover?

@june I haven’t seen that drama so I don’t know. :)*

The writernim would write a compelling story whatever genre. I am a big fan!

LOL, dw, that's been the story of my life too for the past 11 episodes. My vocab seems so limited, and I don't know any words, but love. lol but really, is there any greater term than love? Tell me, I'd love to use it for a change! xDD

*squeeeee* ahhhhhhhhh~ he saw a ray of hope, and he did not hesitate to grab it! I know he has been lowkey sad this episode cuz she's avoiding him and that sarcasm about her being happy about Kyunghee and mom reconciliation was </3, so he must be so happy when she said "That you and me....." *squeeee*

@news @13infamyss. So why was his question a negative sentence?
Do you really think he thought she might like him. Have to go rewatch.
Poor guy can’t handle if she ignores him. Worse is, he seems glimpses of real Mi-Rae when she is with her friend and Sunbae. She is so upbeat and talkative. But she has never been that comfortable around him. So I thought he thinks she may not like him.

@13infamyss Lol

@Blue Footed Booby
Was it a negative sentence? I don't know Korean but only understand bits, so it seemed like he said, "Do you by an chance have feelings for me?" Even if he used a negative sentence like, "You don't like me, do you?", it wouldn't matter. You're right, he probably thought she only likes him as a friends, which is why the last scene is impactful because he finally realizes that she might like him (too, since it's obvious he likes her).

I think it is like that KS would think that MR is not interested in him....her cheering for TA Sunbae at the screen batting cage but barely acknowledging him, and how much hurt he must have felt when she said "I was having fun until you came along" (but again kudos to KS for asking her directly why she is looking dejected.)

@mayhemf @news @kimbapnoona i feel like his question at the end was mistranslated and didn’t really fully catch his real intention for asking it. The direct translation of his question was “don’t you like me just a little bit?” It’s like he’s asking her if she likes him even just a little bit. Cuz he’s ready to take that chance. The drama had their sequence of event a little all over place tbh. This was a question he asked after he confessed. But in this drama, he asked her this before he even confessed! lol. But in any case, it still somehow fits in the scene as she’s been avoiding him the entire episode and when she said “that me and you”, he seemed startled that there is “me and you” between them. And that perhaps she doesn’t completely “not like” him at all. Cuz really, from his POV, it feels like he’s an unwanted pest always wanted to stick around her.

@13infamyss
Woooo how interesting that the drama adaptation handles the sequence differently, and yet the pacing still feels really organic! I wonder if ep 12 will give us KS's confession?

@13infamyss

What? The direct transition “Don’t you like me just a little bit?” is so cute! Can you translate the whole last scene?! You would totally make my day :-D

And you read the webtoon? I want to read it too (as long as there's translation)! Where do I find it?!

@kimbap n👀na

Did she really say "I was having fun until you came along"? Is this the scene after the baseball scene when they're sitting together and drinking?

@news @kimbapnoona @13infamyss
Thanks for translating. so much is lost in translation.
I am so looking forward to tonights episode.. its the 12th isn't it. I am dreading some angst.

@news
She did utter that line (at least according to Dramafever's translation) when all four of them were sitting outside of the convenience store. How terrible and fragile she must have felt all day with her confidence being shaken by SA to lash out like that!

@kimbapnoona yeeep! The drama is following webtoon’s story but the events are not in sequence. The brawl scene happened after he confessed too and they somehow became estranged! But as we can see, regardless the change in events, it totally works and fits. in the drama, they kinda drifted apart too when Mirae is avoiding him yet he still went and protected her even tho no confession has happened in both camps. Auuugh! I’m really really hoping he confessed and she confessed too in ep 12 and that they start dating. They have much more squeeing scenes post-confession. I need to spazz on those!

@news I only understand a little bit of Korean that’s why I can pick up some phrases that might not be in the subs, but I would recommend you to check out dramamilk.com as she does live recaps and she translated the last scene of ep 11 more accurately and the meaning came across better.

the webtoon is available on any English manga site. But I go to mangago.me to read it ☺️

@news also to add on, Kyungsuk asked the same thing in the webtoon. That’s why I kinda knew translation was a bit off. He was hopeful that she likes him a bit. Korean netizens comment as well on his question was so hilarious. They’re saying it’s not a little bit but a lot! Lol

But he doesn’t know that cuz Mirae is hiding it well!😭😭

@kimbap n👀na
Oh no! Yes, he must've been so hurt! I'm hurt just hearing it now lol.

@13infamyss
Thanks! I'm going to look it up! Lol wait until he finds out how much she likes him. He won't leave her side :-)

All this fun conversation about this drama is keeping me from my life! I can't leave the door to enjoy the sunshine and nature lol!

@13infamyss
Since we got a little bit of MR avoiding KS for the latest episode, could we please count this off as "noble idiocy" angsty period we typically get post episode 12 and just have the rest of this show of them doing things like eating popcorn with straw chopsticks and MR gaining self-confidence through her internship at Atelier and solidification of her circle of friends? 😭

Aww I'm having fun reading all the spazzing around GB - proves just how great a show it is. It's proving as much fun (if not more) as APAD was during its airing. One major difference though, GB has me re-watching eps during the week long wait, just so I can ease the pain of waiting.

Pity they haven't the time to develop every single character though, or explore a lot of the issues subtly hinted at, but given the ep count and the focus being primarily on Mi-rae's character (not to mention that fact that it's based on a manga) I'd say the writers have done pretty darn well. The characters, even the cliched ones, are all meaningful in their own way, the dialogue is great, and the acting is nuanced enough to make you stand by the characters and their struggles every step of the way - Su-ah being the only question mark remaining, but even she makes a great antagonist. Her level of manipulation is no joke, and successfully leaves viewers seething! Heck, I even enjoyed the moment funny subae (who's going off to the army) confessed to Ye-na.

The drama is seemingly subdued for something that's based on a manga. The absence of (too many) OTT antics makes it a pleasant watch, but more importantly, it's the strokes of harsh realism that makes it more than just your standard shoujo/romcom fare. Ideas of beauty, dealing with ones insecurities and social pressures are just some of the issues drama does well to put a spotlight on.

@namedx
Where have you been?! I haven't seen you on DB for so long..or maybe I missed you since I usually only read comments for this thread and a bit of OT.

What drama is APAD? Yes, I wholeheartedly agree with everything you said! This drama is so well done in all aspects. I would also like to see the story development of side characters, but regardless, they feel complete like real people dealing with the every day challenges of self discovery/acceptance, becoming young adults and university life. I absolutely love all the real and compelling issues they present in this drama too.

I really appreciate that MR and KS did not fall in love immediately. It was a slow and organic development from knowing each other to friends to slowly liking each other.

Soo-Ah is a great antagonist. I hope to see the drama explore her background more. The bits we've seen really explains why she is who she is. My heart totally broke when her grandma visited her and SA didn't even help her walk up the steep hill or carry her belongings.

And I couldn't believe Tiger JK made an appearance! I saw him live with his wife (also called Mi-rae) and they were just fantastic.

Hey @news - I've not seen you around much either! I'm usually lurking on DB, but when a drama like this comes along, it compels me to come out of my shell - the need to fangirl with others is forever present. Glad to see you here gushing bout GB!

APAD = A Poem a Day. The rave around that one was great on the beanie wall! Speaking of which, you've not signed up your username yet! Please do! ^^

I ❤ the organic development of the leads too - it's so satisfying to watch their feelings for one another unfold. Their chemistry is super adorable and totally believable too, despite the age gap.

@kimbapnoona sorry I just saw your comment on Mirae telling Kyungsuk she was having fun until he came. LIKE AUGH, can she stab him more in the heart? He doesn't understand, this Woo Young hyung rubbed salt into his wound more by saying he finally got rejected! TT_____TT

@namedx Thanks for bringing this up, OMG, I totally forgot to mention Yena and this senior who's going to army. It's cute that Yena ended up liking him or maybe she fell for how he constantly and cutely pursued her.. I`ll never forget his acrobatic skills just to look cool. And it's ironic that people are judging them too - a pretty girl going out with a not-so-handsome guy. What a toxic world to live in.

Also yes, I`m not sure what APAD is. I don't think I've seen it. I love the fact that we all come together and pitch in our thoughts on this beautiful drama. It kinda sucks that we're all over place which makes it hard to track who posted what, but it def won't stop us from spazzing and talking about this drama!

@newso "I really appreciate that MR and KS did not fall in love immediately. It was a slow and organic development from knowing each other to friends to slowly liking each other." - It's honestly on my mind when did Kyungsuk like Mirae. I feel like as early as ep 3, he already showed interest in her. One of my favourites scene is still that part where he asked her if she herself thought that he was cool. (their first meal together!) Or perhaps longer than that. He's been gentle with her ever since he found that she was the same girl at the bus stop.

As for Mirae, I think she started having an interest on him after he cleared up the misunderstanding on their middle school years. That he didn't make fun of her back then. She really saw Kyungsuk in another light after that.

@13infamyss
It's hard to pinpoint when the official "like" began, but they were definitely aware of each other early on. The more they got to know each other, the more they enjoyed each other's company. It's just so lovely the way he initiated a friendship with her first.

@namedx
I'm the same as you. I just comment once in awhile, but a few beanies have wondered why I haven't signed up, so I finally did! I'm glad we can finally follow each other! I want to follow @kiara but I'm such a newbie, I don't even know how to do it. Since you followed me first, I was able to follow you through my notifications.

I'm just loving GB. Even though I've liked many dramas, this is the first one I'm fangirling on DB. Maybe because I started watching it last weekend and was pleasantly surprised at the compelling story and characters that I easily watched all 10 episodes in 2 days. I haven't watched APAD, but since you mentioned it, maybe I'll have to check it out!

Yay, congrats on making your ID official @newso! to follow, you just click on the person’s profile and click “follow” on the top right hand corner. Or you could do it when names crop up under the featured beanies section.

Is everyone done watching ep12?

@namedx I added episode 12 comments further below because this chain was getting too long; it's hard to scroll up and down.

@13infamyss you are hilarious!!
I had dinner plans today but wanted to make sure I came back home early to watch ep -12. Everything revolves around that.

CANDLE- I thought so too. I think she wants to give him one.

@13infamyss
Yes, I will! This is my new crack lol! Are you guys coming back to this thread tonight to talk about episode 12? If so, count me in!!!

@mayhemf hehehhe I have a bad case of obsessing this drama. I can't help it. lol I didn't think I'd love it so much. I think the last time was Reply1988. Those nights were sleepless too and it was a weekend drama!

I really hope she does give him something she created by herself. I think it would be absolutely cute.

@newso Yes we are. We usually just post comments like "Just finished watching Ep 12", so we know there would be be ep 12 spoilers and those who have seen it can start replying to that thread and pitching in thoughts!

@13infamyss my last obsession was 'My mister'. I never used to watch dramas 'live'. I started dramas 2 years back and most watched old dramas.
My first live was Ajushi (I was completely hooked), then Misty and now this and MR.Sunshine.
Its a lot of fun to have these discussions. Only some shows are worth it.

The way she tried to manipulate CEO was horrible. And she got mad at MiRae because she already had a relationship with his mother.
She had no clue how close those 2 have gotten.

@13infamyss I like this sequence in drama. It doesn’t feel out of place. Am so glad to hear that there is some dating phase. Can we have 2 episodes of that please.

@news. Please do register. I understand your situation. Am trying to do some planting while the weather is still good. And I took a break for drama chat :)

“Why SA told MR that she and KS didn’t have lunch together”
It was so full of spite. Basically she is negating MiRae’s help in getting them to have lunch together. Since she failed, she passes the blame on MR. so from SA’s perspective MR did not help her at all.
What is she expecting to sit with him and help KS like SA. THIS Woman!!

@Blue Footed Booby
@alua also told me to register! I may have to sign up, so I can join all the fun conversations :-) Btw, what are you planting?

@kimbapnoona
Do you mean why SA lied to MR about not having lunch with KS? SA is very manipulative, so I agree that she lied about it to make MR feel guilty and help her more later. She said, "He must've felt uncomfortable eating with me without you" to shift the blame on MR and make her feel bad.

Whoa, I finally registered and how strange to see all my comments in my account dating back when! This is like my drama diary.

@newso @mayhemf There's always that kind of drama who pulls you out of lurking, makes you write essays about it, which take hours and hours to finish. But you don't care because it's worth writing about, and that need to share your thoughts with everyone else's is so real. This is what My ID is Gangnam Beauty is for me right now. Thoughts and feels are just overflowing. So much to say in so little time.

@13infamyss
Yes! Some shows I love to watch but don't necessarily feel the urge to comment, but MIIGB makes me want to talk about almost every single scene and conversation! It is just the perfect crackstastic balance between cute and heart! 😍😍😍

@mayhemf I've been trying to grow an urban garden, but even though I have a lot of windows, my apartment doesn't receive enough direct sunlight, so I may need to get some lights for them. I'd love to see your herbs/medicinal plants if you post them on your wall. @namedx posts delicious food photos and they look so yummy!

@newso - I feel ya! I live in a tiny apartment. I used to live in a unit with Northern exposure with no direct sunlight. Recently moved to a unit facing South. It changed everything.
I used to have those lights too. It worked, but made a lot of buzzing noise.

Omg that would be soooo epic if Mirae tells Soo Ah off! I cannot wait to see that happen. I really hope that happens!

and that is true on Kyungsuk - he’s losing confidence on Mirae’s feelings on him and might be really shaken up in ep 12. 💔💔

And lol @kimbapnoona thanks bringing that up lmao. Soo Ah’s face when Mom said Mirae’s name in a familiar tone. And she said to herself “you’re impressive Mirae” like gurl, you’re the sly fox, stop. lol.

I don’t know how I feel about Soo Ah really in this episode. Like I loved that scene where Kyungsuk stood up, told her to enjoy her meal and left but like auuugh. 🤯🤯

I really want her to learn this the hard way. It doesn't mean that she's had an awful background that she gets a slap on the wrist for everything she did and we're over it.

Our stoic hero, the forever straight shooter: "Do you really not know? That I like you. Let's start dating." He does no waste a minute!

this one is good. but i have to give the trophy to WY sunbae, "there's so many things that you don't know about me. that i can not drink, that i easily get cold, that i hate studying, and that i like you".
smooth,direct, and casual. no one see that coming. hands down, sunbae.

-Really really loved that Kyungsuk-WooYoung part. I don't have words. It's as you have said. Kudos to the director. That scene speaks volume.

-I was a mess when during the rain scene. Before that scene you mentioned tho - he was like "Are you okay? Did it upset you?" He prioritizes her feelings before anything else.

"Let's start dating" that was him gathering up his confidence, but boy, look at his confidence slowly falters, when Mirae keeps dodging his straight question "What do you think about me?"

-That scene with his hyung was funny too.
Kyungsuk was like: She said she can't date me.
Hyung: She rejected you?! Who-a.
Kyungsuk: She said she can't date me, not that she doesn't want to.

LOL Kyungsuk not giving up on any hope.

RE: Coloured Hair - It's hilarious too that everyone thinks and worries he's either in rebellious stage, dating, or got his heart broken. When in reality, he only did a hair salon modelling. LOL

-Auuugh I knew they were gonna find out about that. That was totally a buzzkill moment for me. I was so elated that future in laws have finally met and bam! way to kill it I really wished they didn't have to know. And really what a way to figure it out too.

-LOVED, LOVED, LOVED IT. My favourite 'ignore' scene was at the orientation at mom's workplace, by the benches. I love it more when she gets ignored and everyone gets to see it.

He was saving the best strike ever for last - "you're mental" xDD If that doesn't make Soo Ah stay away from Kyungsuk, then I dunno what else.

@junah Yes, WY's confession was pretty epic and I'm sure in a different drama, I would be swooning, but there's a simplicity and sincerity to KY's that I find so endearing. It's unplanned and the antithesis of smoothness without bells or whistles, but it comes straight from the heart, all of which are consistent to his character.

Yep agree. She deserves Kyungsuk - well they both deserve each other.

I can't wait to see them go out, learn more new things about each other and how they can bend for the person they love. Kyungsuk used to not care about anything else (well he still doesn't!), but when Mirae is concerned, he's become very sensitive. Because of her insecurities, he's learned to bend and try to understand her. Hopefully, we get to see Mirae change too from the timid girl to someone who's ready to accept Kyungsuk and all the baggage that will come for liking him. It def won't be an easy road, but there's two of them in that battlefield, so, she will be fine!

-It's interesting that Soo Ah asked that question to Kyungsuk twice "do you really not feel anything?" She was so desperate to win his affection/attraction, but it's clearly not because she loves Kyungsuk, but rather it's for her personal vanity.

I have a hypothesis for Kyung-Seok studying Chemistry. First- he is more than smart enough to be doing any kind of STEM subject but, second, because subconsciously it was a way to be close to the mother who had abandoned him. The mystery is why Soo-Ah is studying Chemistry.

They are different in that I can see why Mirae would pick Kyungsuk over Woo Young. It's not a matter of what made them attracted to Mirae as Woo Young said to each their own. Even though Woo Young made it clear that yes, it was her face that attracted him first, but that getting to know her more made him fall for her, bottom line is it was her face (which is a very sensitive topic for her) that started all his attraction. He made a great piece that people can like whoever and however they like, and that there's nothing wrong with liking somebody for their face, however, face remains a taboo subject for Mirae.

I kinda don't want to delve into this discussion as Kyungsuk in the webtoon had an argument with Woo Young over this. He asked Kyungsuk what difference did it make if he liked her for her face or her heart or whatever part of her body. He knew what he liked. Kyungsuk snapped at Woo Young, and I do see where he's coming from. I don't want to talk about it right now in case the drama deals with their big fall out too in the next episode. I don't want to spoil us all the fun. xDD I will get back to this once the drama talked about it (really hoping they do)

Regarding Kyungsuk's choice in taking chemistry. He talked about this in Ep 2. His bar hyung asked him why did he major in a field that he knew would get a rise out of his dad. He said he was not sure, but the more he was told not to do it, the more he wanted to. His mom was a chemistry major. Perhaps deep down he was curious even though he said he wasn't. Or I guess, I`ll just say it's in his blood to have an interest in chemistry too. Like mother, like son. xDD

I think he picked Chemistry just to piss off his dad.
I vaguely remember some mention of this in an earlier episode.

I've been heart broken whenever the weekend ends for the past 6 weeks now. You would think I'd get used to it, but it gets harder.

Yes! And there's no preview! Total torture! 😭 Now that we're down with only 4 episodes, I feel like I don't want it to end. 😭

@13infamyss I wasn't planning to watch this drama, but I decided to check it out last weekend and finished 10 episodes in 2 days. I prefer to marathon dramas, so the flow of the story and my feelings won't be interrupted, but I would miss out on all the fun.

Me too- although I think this first step for Mi Rae was that she sat down and cried in the rain over what she had done. The first step towards correcting a mistake is acknowledging that you have made one- and that cry was the first step towards that, as she is having to confront the depths of her feelings.

A big step indeed. And she did not say no when WY told her that he knows since before that KS and MR like each other. So I guess she’s getting there! Friday jebal come soon!

YEAH. what’s the point of a new character now? So many awesome characters need more screen time.

Regarding Dong won the new SA fan boy. Korean nets have eagle eyes. He was in episode 1 watching SA. So he have been there in the shadow!

This!!!!!!! Since Ep 1, Kyungsuk has built that wall between him and Soo Ah. He called her out every single episode until he made that phone mistake and Soo Ah told him that she's not who whatever he thinks she is. We saw Kyungsuk toned down after this, but remained distant from Soo Ah. Soo Ah would approach him and ask him question, but he would reply one word back or call out her statements that negate whatever she just said.

But now that they had that talk at the restaurant and saw her true colours, he was back to building that wall between them again. He was so right from the start for treating her like this. She was not worth any attention to, and that's what he's doing now.

Soo-Ah is manipulative- but if she is doing it to be liked and accepted she is doing a terrible job of it.

Woo Young is a decent guy. He was petty that one time with the chores. But he also looks out for KS and gives him credit when its due. He fights fair and gives really sound advice about living independently. KS can learn a lot from him. So I wasnt surprised that he would be careful on handling the situation with Yoon Byul.

@jillian yesss, he really is a decent guy! It’s great cos you can clearly see the positive influence he has over KS which makes KS almost want to be like him or at least mimic his ways. I love how KS repeats lines said by the other adults around him, be it WY or his Mum. He sure does learn fast when it comes to upholding social relationships.

Also would like to add that he was the only one who figured out that Kyungsuk's sudden change of hair colour. He was like "I told you, I did them all". He's come so far, and I wish nothing, but happiness for him too.

Woo Young has acknowledged Yoon Byul's bravery- which means that he already admires and respects her. What happens when he truly looks at her and realizes that, despite her best efforts to hide it, Yoon Byul is actually a very beautiful woman? And much of this story has been about beauty being as much a curse as a blessing- so Yoon Byul downplaying her looks may be a very rational thing to do. After all, it is arguable that if Kyung Seok's mother had not been so naturally beautiful she might still have her sense of smell.

Yup. That last question was painful. You could see how broken he was.
He got rejected only because he was good looking. And ‘looks’ is the last thing he cares about.
I know this show is all about MR’s growth. But that one moment when I saw everything from his perspective it was very heartbreaking.

@mayhemf So true. He never cared at all about his looks. He was so indifferent with his surroundings and how people fawn over him. But now, that one thing he couldn't care less about was the one and only reason why he got rejected by the girl he likes. So heartbreaking. If it wasn't a problem to him before, now his looks and popularity have become the biggest baggage for him.

I got reminded of this cute scene - when Soo Ah's friend asked Mirae what her type is. Kyungsuk is all ears LOL. And then when she answered she wants a "normal" guy......... he was so done and had to leave. Poor boi.

But he can't and won't change his face - he`ll just have to wait until Mirae learns to love herself and then accept everything of Kyungsuk and that includes his face. And lucky for him, it doesn't look like he'll be waiting for too long! ^__^

We're not meant to. We just keep swooning over him again and again.

We can’t!! How can we??

I was so embarrassed for the parents when they used the term ‘Gangnam beauty’ not knowing its negative connotations. It was heartbreaking to watch them go through that moment of realisation.

@namedx It was not funny I was embarrassed too. But I wanted some one to tell them the meaning so that they stop going around telling everyone that their precious daughter is a Gangnam beauty. I imagined how heart broken they will feel if they heard about it in a negative way!!

It’s interesting, because whilst we sympathise with Mi-rae’s decision to get plastic surgery, in the end, the concept of it will always hold negative connotations. But it’s like the Mum said, in the end, it’s not the whole idea of ps which makes her angry, rather it’s people’s perception of beauty and how they then pressurise others to apply those same standards to themselves. Like Su-ah, her standard of what’s pretty and beautiful is based on other’ treatment of her, and that is usually based on the outer appearance. She’s completely blinded to the ugliness within.

@namedx
I think that up to a point the show is giving us reason to find Soo Ah pathetic and to have some sympathy for her. She is not likable by a long shot, but maybe pitiable because she too has trapped herself in the neverending demands of keeping up a show and maintaining others' approval. She does not seem to have explored other resources for getting ahead, except study, look good and back stab the competition.

@mimu1234 Yes, I'd love a proper side-story of tomboy with Woo Young. He says he knows the type of woman he likes, but he is able to look past appearances, so maybe he won't reject her too badly, and after getting to know her, he could change his mind and like her.

@growingbeautifully for sure - it's a long shot, but I guess I can throw some pity her way! She's definitely stuck in a cycle of her own making though. Mi-rae is at least aware of her own personal struggles, but I've yet to see Su-ah showing the same level of awareness. Like KS said, there's definitely something wrong in the head.

Talking about insecurities, I think it's interesting that whilst everyone thinks KS is perfect, the past few eps have revealed him to be just like everybody else. He has his own insecurities too, especially with regards to what it means to be a man of responsibility. His pettiness has also become a lot more transparent, and we see him holding grudges when he doesn't get his way. Lol just goes to show that a pretty face isn't everything.

@growingbeautifully I have no sympathy for Soo-Ah coz even if she had a bad past or she wants other appraisal of her she can do it without harming others relationship. Manipulating for good review and manipulating to harm others is totally different things. The show is failing for me to garner sympathy or feel pity for her as I totally don't have.
Though I want her to get counselled so that she can change her attitude as it's venomous for people near and around her.

@mimu1234 @namedx @growingbeautifully

I love how CEO Na told Mirae that she can't give her advise on anything she can't understand completely. Sure, people should just date if they like each other, but it's easier said than done. Mirae already confided in CEO Na that she's having a hard time accepting Kyungsuk for who he is, so I`m really glad that CEO Na didn't push that "just date him" statement to her. Rather she told her that she's angry at the people who made her think that way. She told her instead not to make a decision she'll regret later on. Mommy is so adult in everything she does, how much more can we love her???????? I`m really, really glad that Mirae is finally in the circle of positive people.

I've mentioned this before, all 3 of them (Mirae, CEO Na, and Soo Ah) are victims of their past and they were so stuck in that same place unable to move on. They all did whatever they had to do to survive - Mirae (plastic surgery), CEO Na (abandon her kids), Soo Ah (get drown in her vanity). Whether it's the right thing to do or not, at that time it was their only way to cope up with the harsh reality they're living in.

@namedx heheheh it's ridiculous really. He is by far from perfect. Look at him striking at Woo Young again for nothing just because his night with Mirae didn't go too well. I love his imperfections, but it's about time he improves the level of his pettiness.

@13infamyss I just adore Ms. Na. Giving advice is much more easier and I love her more that she's not against Mi-Rae dating Kyung-Seok. (Many mothers can go against it)
I love how she's doesn't intrude Kyung-Seok's privacy and being the great mom she's still makes sure to catch up on what's exactly wrong with him.
I'm glad positive people are there in this show. I love how she's bonding with Kyung-Hee.^^

I agree that the Tom-boy is adorable (and the class representative is actually really beautiful) but I am still rooting for Woo Young to finally notice Mi Rae's adorable little friend.

@mayhemf

Btw, did MR really talk about liking KS to his mother or she kept it vague? I couldn’t tell.

- Yes, from Ms Na's response, it sounds like Mi Rae did confide in Kyung Seok's mum. So cute that she did, and a testament to what a wonderful mother figure Ms Na makes.

Yeeeep - that is so me right now @mayhemf woke up, turned my computer on, opened my chrome browser, and typed dramabeans on my address bar. And what a great morning it is! Totally fangirling over your guys thoughts on this episode. They're all amazing.

I thought the same with @growingbeautifully I think she confided in her everything that is Kyungsuk-related.

I really hope he doesn't misunderstand that much, and that he does his usual thing of firing the question to them right away on what they're doing at the steps!

Oohhhh interesting! You're probably right. This new guy is basically Soo Ah's downfall and the reason why she'd start reflecting on her actions. Honestly, at this point yet, I don't think anything bothers her. She was even fine with wearing super short skirts, so I`d like to see her feel uncomfortable by this new guy stalking him.

OMG????? Vacation! Count me in! Let this vacation be a date of some sort of our couple. LOL

I do not recall that Mi Rae specifically stated that the boy was Kyung Seok, but I am sure that Ms. Na suspects that it is, and would be even more encouraging if she was sure, because I am pretty sure that Mi Rae is the Daughter in Law she would like to have. His dad, on the other hand, may be a different story.

yes. her scars run deep. very deep.
But girl, you deserve love!!

I agree- it is the characters that have drawn us in.

how good is Gangnam Beauty? haven't heard any of the cast before so im wonder if their acting chops are up to par..

This is currently the crack drama for quite a few beanies, but popularity doesn't always mean it's actually good. In this case, it has rightfully earned it's status and reputation, so if you're looking for compelling characters and a story that's meaningful, then this is the drama to watch. The actors are not famous nor popular, but now that I've seen them in their roles, I can't unsee them, so they're perfectly casted.

@T - I went in blind too, not knowing any of the actors except for the female lead. But all it took was one ep, and I was sucked right in.

The acting from the male lead is a tad green at times, but because of the more experienced actors, it's all held together pretty nicely. Plus, the character portrayal, the dialogue and the execution of scenes makes this show a great watch. I was expecting it to be nothing more than a little fluff, but it's proven to be so much more than that. Unsurprisingly, it didn't take long for it to reach crack status for me.

Having said that, it may not be for everyone - some find the pacing a little too meandering and the conflict overly simplistic or just not meaty enough.

@namedx Since I watched GB so late in its run and joined the conversation for the first time in this thread, I'm really surprised to hear that some people "find the conflict overly simplistic or just not meaty enough". My takeaway is the exact opposite. Sexism, gender bias, cultural/societal expectations/pressure, plastic surgery, self-esteem/confidence/acceptance/image, dreams/life purpose/fear, personal growth are just some of the running themes in this drama that I find absolutely thought provoking and riveting. Because of this drama, I started reading the manga and her fears and paranoia are even more palpable. Battling one's own demons in a society that's judgmental and unforgiving can really be psychologically damaging. I find Mirae's journey fascinating and am rooting for her to conquer her fears and become the best version of herself for herself.

@news - I couldn't agree with you more. I'm actually in the process of marathoning the eps again, and I'm discovering so many more layers, subtle glances and meaningful dialogue exchanges. Many of the scenes are so thoughtfully executed too (I'm having fun picking out some of my faves from each ep) - just an all rounder of a show, really. Now it just needs to deliver in the final stretch, then I'll be more than satisfied.

@newso - sorry, forgot to tag you properly!

@namedx Yes, I'm hoping for a grand finale, neatly wrapped with a bow on top! I'll probably give it a second watch as well after the drama ends and I finish the manga. Pls share any new insights with us; don't keep it to yourself!

Also, I thought the display name would be the tag name. Little did I know, it's actually the username. Unfortunately, it had a 5 letter minimum, hence the difference. I'm sure it's hard to tag some people if they have a completely different username from their display name.

What's the secret to adding images to MY SHOWS? The drop down menu doesn't allow uploading a file.

@newso

Yes, a nice neat-ish ending would be most welcome for this show! If only we had more of a permanent space where we could gather and discuss our thoughts, that would have been great - I’m sure there are plenty more beanies out there who are watching the show, or have just discovered it! It’s so easy to get lost in a sea of comments discussing other shows.

Ah, and re adding shows to your “my shows” page, you don’t have to upload images, you simply favourite a show via the pages set up (for said show) on dramabeans. Hope that makes sense!

try mangadex. the webtoon is good and basically drama has the similar plot, eventhough not exactly the same order. but, you might find main characters give different vibe between drama and webtoon. you may find few avid fans of webtoon feel that drama MR is not as awkward as webtoon is, and too feisty. in the beginning of webtoon, she kept avoiding KS and felt like he's scary. Me personally love this slight difference better. i like feisty heroine.
KS webtoon more like scary-cold than stoic-cold. it's perfect for shoujo and i can enjoy reading it, but it will be overused trope where the guy is scary and the girl is the nervous one. i like that both MR and KS is not on dominant-submissive relationship since eps 1, as people may think they are. at least, drama MR has normal tone when she needs to talk with KS unlike webtoon when she kept getting dizzy and nervous around him. anyway, both are equally good. but as far as character goes, i prefer drama than webtoon. in case you want to know, SA is the same annoying as her character in webtoon is, but like 100x worst since her character is alive.

@junah Wow! Thanks for the detailed comparison. Even though an appreciation of the different formats is good, I always love it when people give a critical analysis of similarities/differences.

Yes, I believe you are right. It was GD. 😂

Lol @ his three fridges. Yes, very well stocked. Those episodes were fun.