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Team Dramabeans: What we’re watching

So, what are we all watching this week?

What kept you reaching for more (or agonizing when there was no more), and what made you want to throw your remote through the screen? Time to weigh in…

 

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Life: I find myself curiously drawn into this world despite NOT finding the premise all that exciting — hospital politics and internal power struggles — and I have to say it’s because these directors are excellent at creating atmosphere, tension, and a feeling of energy that doesn’t necessarily come from the plot itself. I’m not surprised because both directors have strong resumes: PD Hong Jong-chan of Dear My Friends and Live Up to Your Name and Im Hyun-wook, who has credits on Awl and This Week My Wife Will Have an Affair, although he wasn’t the main director on them. And I have to say that Jo Seung-woo in the antagonist’s role is a stroke of genius, because I’m not convinced he IS a villain despite the setup pointing in that direction. Or maybe he’s an honorable villain, I don’t know. I’m surprised to feel invested in this show, but in a good way.

What’s Wrong With Secretary Kim: My interest has been waning in this show for several weeks, because despite it being as cute as a button, the latter half has felt so absent of plot that it makes the whole show feel purposeless. I’m happy for the couple, but did I need to see so many episodes to get to this ending?

Let’s Eat 3: I do like Baek Jin-hee in this role, but my liking is so grudging because I was so attached to Seo Hyun-jin. I have to actively tell myself to forget the other seasons and to treat this one as a standalone show, because when I do that, I find it charming and sweet.

Thirty But Seventeen: I’m tentatively hopeful for this. It already feels super familiar despite the plot being somewhat different, because the childhood-trauma-into-adulthood-healing setup is handled so similarly to the PD’s other dramas (Pinocchio, I Hear Your Voice) that I feel like I already know the rhythm of this show. I’m hoping that turns out to be a good thing.

Mr. Sunshine: I’m still watching this, but to be honest it’s half because because I’m trying to figure out why it’s not working for me. I just don’t care about Eugene’s identity struggle (although on paper the conflict seems so rich), and on top of that I can’t feel any warmth toward Lee Byung-heon, and that one-two punch is deadly for my interest in the show. I also find myself incredibly uncomfortable with the cartoonishly evil portrayal of the Japanese characters here, which feels regressive and lazy. Which isn’t to say that this stuff didn’t happen in history — it absolutely did — but when a drama takes such a ham-handed approach to character building, it brings the whole production down. Dong-mae and Hina are two examples of layered characters with Japanese ties, so I know it’s not like the producers are incapable. So the fact that all the other Japanese characters are portrayed like Gargamel on a Smurf-hunt makes me think they’re just not interested in telling a more nuanced story.

 

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Mr. Sunshine: The promise of bromance certainly helped keep my attention this week, because otherwise I find that I’m waiting around for Yoo Yeon-seok and Kim Tae-ri to have more scenes together, and it’s starting to feel like a drop-of-water-in-a-desert situation over here. But I am invested in the fate of Joseon in this era, so I hope the resistance movement gets going in earnest in our story. I mean, I know this isn’t Gaksital, but can we get a little more action around here? Everyone’s carrying around big guns and big swords, but so far all they’ve done is measure them while getting territorial over a girl. I think I’m going to enjoy her outgunning them all.

What’s Wrong With Secretary Kim: The final week really highlighted how little conflict there was to drum up between these two characters, so it felt like one really long, drawn-out epilogue. (Seriously though, can anyone explain to me why there was MORE screen time for these last two episodes?) While I found the characters utterly delightful, they didn’t change all that much from beginning to end, which was wasted potential for a drama that had plenty of time and then some to squeeze in significant character development. As a romance it was sweet and lovely and genuinely funny, but it worked best in the early phases when there was tension to be had—when Secretary Kim was searching for independence, leaving her boss grasping at straws to understand why she’d ever leave his perfect ass. Ah, the good ol’ days.

Let’s Eat 3: I didn’t expect the sisters to be the relationship that grabbed me, but I really love the storyline that follows Baek Jin-hee’s broken bond with her flighty stepsister. She may be an infuriating character, but she really adds a great dynamic to the group as the source of all conflict (plus, I find her haplessness kind of endearing?). Dae-young’s reactions to the sisters—confusion, mild horror, amusement, more confusion—are always spot-on for how I feel about them in any given moment, and I like that he’s being set up to be the one who brings them back together… after about 99 servings of jealousy and misunderstanding, of course.

Thirty But Seventeen: This is adorable. Shin Hye-sun is great at playing the teenager in the body of an adult, and the comedy doesn’t disappoint. It’s such an obvious setup, but the characters are quirky and the situations are a bit off-kilter (reminiscent of High School King of Savvy), and Yang Se-jong’s character is just weird enough to keep him interesting instead of being another standard cold and prickly hero. I find myself already invested in the first-love reunion, and eager for more age-confusion hijinks. Also, Robomaid is my favorite. Or maybe Yeh Ji-won is my favorite, because she always plays the nuttiest supporting characters in every drama and steals the show.

 

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What’s Wrong With Secretary Kim: I just started watching. OMG~ this is totally hitting all my cotton-candy fluff drama needs. I never thought that I could like Park Min-young more than I liked her in Healer, but Secretary Kim is fantastic—just the right mix of down-to-earth and competent. Park Seo-joon probably could make a rock fall in love, but their chemistry is seriously off the charts. Kyaah, two more episodes to go!

 

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Investigation Couple: As expected, the final episodes solved the decades-old case that the prosecutorial and forensic teams were involved with. What was unexpected was what came next — a new case that centered on a familiar suspect, the chaebol from Eun-sol’s first case. That continuity was a great detail, but when it became obvious that there was no way to resolve the case by the end of the final episode, I could see it was headed for an open ending. That made sense; there’s always that next case waiting in the wings. The problem for me was that this unresolved case left too many unanswered questions and I knew that I wouldn’t be satisfied with the finale. It wasn’t meant to be satisfying because Investigation Couple ended with the biggest cliffhanger of all: “To be continued…”

What?! Never did I expect a second season, but that’s exactly what’s been set up, and I’m actually looking forward to it if it happens. I really want to have the questions posed by that final case to be answered and I would definitely tune in for that reason alone. But that’s not the only reason I would give a second season a try. Investigation Couple worked for me because I think it tapped into a familiar formula that has worked with many crime shows. The drama had a good pace as well, and it brought closure to each case relatively quickly so there was something new to challenge the viewer week after week. I had my complaints about some of the character development and that huge break in the broadcast almost lost me, but I kept coming back. Investigation Couple managed to weave a web of mystery that I couldn’t escape and it just may be strong enough for a second season.

Your House Helper: I’ve fallen under the spell of this drama and I’m not quite sure why. Perhaps it has something to do with the stage of life that Da-young and her friends are in, when young adults find themselves overwhelmed by the burden of independence. Some people make that transition look so easy but that’s not the case for everyone, at least not for Da-young, Sang-ah, and So-mi, and it makes them relatable. They’re just trying to survive and Ji-woon, who specializes in overwhelmed people, offers much needed help and wisdom. But whenever he appears, all I can think of is the familiar saying, “Physician, heal thyself.”

 
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I couldn’t watch Time this week because of time constraints and will most probably skip it barring widespread exceptional reviews since I’ve lost the mood to watch a melodrama (You can blame Thirty But Seventeen for that). I could go back to it though if the premier of Familiar Wife next week tanks and makes me sad again. I’ve not finished the second episode of Your House Helper this week yet, and there’s Life on Mars as well to do extended thoughts on during the weekend! I love watching those shows though so it’s not a waste of time.

(Fan Wall Spazzing) Life on Mars (Episodes 11-12):
I was very surprised when the show introduced yet another 1988 arc in the corrupt system that the 1988 killer was battling because I had assumed that the 1988 killer arc would be the final one before the male lead returns to 2018. The common man vs shadowy organisation trope is not one which I’m a fan of normally, but I trust that Life on Mars will remain faithful to the male lead’s time-twisty puzzle as the main plot line. The third quarter of the show has been nothing short of excellent, with lesser focus given to the procedural cases that were more prominent in the first half.

(Fan Wall Spazzing) Thirty But Seventeen (Episodes 1-4):
Let the cohabitation hijinks ensue! I’m feeling cautiously optimistic about the show: while it does have a number of worrying setups (see: rival violinist / doctor with crush on female lead / angst over stupid Truck of Doom), it does have a compelling story to tell in the female lead’s arc: regaining one’s identity in a world where everything including herself has changed. I’m not too impressed with the male lead’s arc: getting over childhood traumas and reigniting childhood crushes is overdone, but hopefully Yang Se Jong will be given some good material to showcase his acting prowess.

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(Watching) Let’s Eat 3 (Episodes 3-4):
The show redeemed itself a little with the 2nd male lead with the reveal of his 2004 self and his inner klutzy disposition despite portraying himself externally as aloof. I want to see more development of the 2004 trio because it seems like they’re being used mostly as comic relief, as well as less of the 2nd female lead who strikes me as being rather manipulative in forcing herself upon the two male leads. All signs point towards her having betrayed her stepfamily for her current lifestyle which means that I’ll be waiting for karma to strike back. Let there be some intense tea sipping!

(Watching) What’s Wrong With Secretary Kim (Episodes 15-16):
The show was really lucky to have casted Park Seo Joon and Park Min Young as its leads, for it would have crumbled without the sizzling chemistry between the main couple. I’m not going to blame the writer for the main plot lines since it’s an adaptation but I’m certain the writer had more creative freedom in the side characters, where the non-coupled people were so poorly written! It’s always bad to see actors and actresses being wasted when they could have gotten better experience and exposure in other shows. (Side-note: Lee Tae Hwan’s acting reputation is going to take a hit.)

(Watching -> Fast-Forwarded) Are You Human Too (Episodes 25-28):
Secretary was the character that caught my eye this week: blowing up in front of human Nam Shin, actively scheming to keep BOTH human and robot alive and trying to appeal to human Nam Shin’s fundamentally good side. I really loved how he was both Team Robot & Team Human (this faucet made his character really interesting) and really wished that there were more characters like this that displayed sensitivity and support towards both of them. I’ve lost interest in the plot now that it’s clear the show intends to let Nam Shin slide down some rather slippery slopes. What a bummer.

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I agree - this show truly did Lee Tae Hwan a disservice -- his acting is terrible in it! (not that I've seen him anywhere else, but ouf! Stiff as a board much? )

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I am up to episode 13 of your house helper. It is entertaining but not perfect.

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Life On Mars : Still my main squeeze so to speak. Last week's episodes were close to heart attack inducing because I was so close to ragequitting on the off chance that something happened to Officer Yoon. Gladly, she survived and came back to kick more butt and catch bad guys, but once again the drama made me clutch my hair because I honestly did not expect the ending. This week, I cannot wait to see what happens!

Your House Helper : I started watching last week and what can I say, it was unexpectedly nice. I'm liking the set up of the three girls coming together and rekindling what seemed to be a solid friendship. I think Bona is doing a pretty great job, as are the other two ladies. I'm looking forward to catching up on the rest of the episodes. Oh, and I would lay my life down for Ddobok the dog. ♥️♥️♥️

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Ddobok is the highlight. 😘😝

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He certainly is! Every moment he's on screen and no one is petting him, I'm internally screaming because he deserves all the pets and hugs!

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Every moment he's on screen and no one is petting him, I'm internally screaming ...
Ikr, don't they know they'll gain good vitamins by petting him. *I made that up but still...😜

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Thirty But Seventeen: Despite the fact I think the premiere took this premise one coincidence too far, I'm in love. It actually feels organic, with wonderfully quirky characters to boot.

Let's Eat 3: More food, less Seo-yeon please and thank you. (I should have expected the Sun twist. Season 2 did that as well.)

Risky Romance: IT'S SO INTERESTING. How thought of this premise?? Give them a raise! Although I have to say, there's something odd about In-ah, the 1% that stops me being completely on board.

Your Honor: Not bad? Can't say I didn't think it was predictable, but Yoon Shi-yoon has thrown subtlety out of the window and is ridiculously entertaining. Can't say it wouldn't be the first to go if I can't juggle all these shows, though.

My ID is Gangnam Beauty: I generally stick away from plastic surgery stories because they tend to portray the procedure as the way solution to all life's problems, but I'm actually looking forward to this one. It might actually stray away from that idea.

Mr Sunshine: No words. The shows I have the most trouble talking about are the ones ripe for analysis. I'm just gonna watch quietly.

Descendants of the Sun: It's been two years, but I might actually finish this soon! 🎉

Hana Nochi Hare: FINALLY.

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Hanadan translations doesn't merit any time at all. original dropped it. Bad translations just ruin a show.
Risky Romance is playing hard to get and both viki and dramafever are fighting over it. This love-triangle is causing inconvenience to us viewers.

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I can understand enough Japanese and Korean to get through rom-coms. In fact, I don't why I waited so long for the Hana Nochi Hare fan-subs because I understand more without them. With Risky Romance, though, the subs being accurate is more crucial since there's a lot of medical-speak. (So that's why Viki hasn't uploaded it, huh? I hope they sort that out.)

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More food, less Seo-yeon please and thank you.
I dropped this drama because of her, couldn't stand her selfish manipulative acts. Perhaps I'll check back if Beanies say she got some redeeming points later.

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I think she's supposed to be impish and endearing, but I imagine it's the way Lee Joo-woo portrays her that makes her come across this way. Anyhow, I'm sick of her and I don't want her to have a love-line. Just make up for the years you left Ji-woo alone, you selfish ass!

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it's the way Lee Joo-woo portrays her that makes her come across this way.

Such a shame because I like her in Waikiki but then in that drama she got cute awesome points while in this she just....bad to everyone. It could be that the writer will shine a light on her later but seeing how she treats her sister and that hopeless guy, I'm like nope.

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Pfffft. I have no idea why, but I just love the way Lee Joo-woo plays her bratty characters with gusto. For some reason, I find her hilarious and annoying simultaneously. Lol, I don't understand myself...

I actually think her portrayal is the only redeeming factor right now, since I personally think it's the writing that has failed to make her the least bit likable, unlike Waikiki. At this point, if she was played by a less funny actress that would probably just make her less entertaining and even more blatantly annoying to me.

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She's kinda cute in the past, but in the present she has no-one to be cute to!

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I've watched the first episode of My ID is Gangnam Beauty and what I get thus far is that they are dealing with plastic surgery not necessarily fixing all of life's problems and actually giving you some unexpected issues.

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I quite liked the first episode, so I'm going to give this a go.

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I thought it totally fizzled out in the 2nd episode and became a shell of itself. Plus, you know how they won't show her before plastic surgery? Isn't that a statement in itself against the premise of the show?

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Yeah, having seen the second episode I completely agree. I'm gonna watch a little longer but I think plastic surgery stories and I just don't get along.

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@frabbycrabsis: it wasn't the plastaic surgery, it was the immature kids. And her always saying "deh?" And the writing isn't that great. But again the most profound thing was their unwillingness to show her being "ugly". That kind of smacks in the face of ugly vs beauty. The message was you still don't want to shown as unattractive. The only positive I found was the problems that being pretty can bring too.
And I'll bet it turns out he "liked" her better when she wasn't attractive, her old ugly self. Fat chance in real life that would happen.

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It's a shame that nobody is watching Are You Human Too?. It is a great show, possibly becoming my favourite of 2018 and one of the few I will complete (it's been a bad year for me). Spoiler-free review ahead:

Basically, it's a mixture of genres: low-key sci-fi, some rom-com, action and good old melo. It's by the director of Gaksital and the writer of Princess' Man, and so far they have not disappointed. The story is tight, the characters are deep, the plot twists are unexpected, and the romance is not icky. A year ago I wouldn't have touched this drama - I thought a story about falling in love with a robot is ridiculous. But that is not what this drama is about. The title sums it up: the characters and viewers are asked what makes someone human, and the presence of a robot that looks and acts like an innocent person affects everyone. I don't know if I have done this drama justice, but if anyone is tempted and wants to catch up before the finale, now is the time! *inserts Swatch PPL*

P.S.: I'm still watching Mr. Sunshine, but I've put Your House Helper and Meteor Garden on hold. I am trying to have a life beside dramas.

P.P.S: I am currently watching "The Classic" (2003) because I want to know what made Nam Shin cry. Not obsessed at all.

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No, not obsessed. It's for research purposes only.

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Of course. *cough* I am thrilled that my research involves watching young Son Ye-Jin and Cho Seung-Woo tramping through the countryside, Jo In Sung as an umbrella-improviser and "The Pillar" Lee Ki Woo in a role where I can like him (I'm only halfway through). Tears have already been shed so this looks bad for my tissues supply.

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I'm among the minority Beanies (?) who isn't watching AYHT (or to be more precise dropped it) despite of its hype, but I'm quite surprised none of our big bosses is watching it either.

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I don't know if many beanies are watching it... we are just very active on the fanwall ;)

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Oh I see. But I think aside from the recently ended Secretary Kim, AYHT is another most popular kdrama at the moment based on what I saw, at least among international fans.

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High Five Sera, I want to watch it but I can't push that play button (forever stuck at ep 14/15), I love all their robo talks as well.

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Robot drama in general is just not my thing. But if the casts are my favs, then I'll be watching it. For example for the upcoming remake Absolute Boyfriend. And I really loved drama special Home Sweet Home as well despite not really familiar with the casts except Lee Sang yeob. I have heard many good things about Seo Kang Joon's performance, maybe if I have liked him much more before this drama, I'll continue watching LOL. The funny thing is I'm already looking forward to his next drama because the lead girl is none other than awesome Esom.

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Robot drama is not usually my thing either, but this one (despite the every present tropes) explores the ramifications a bit more, in a human way. I never liked Seo Kang joon either, but I have to say he's outstanding (and the perfect robot I think because of the way his lips moves when he smiles) in this role.

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What? Nobody's watching RUHuman? Or do you mean the recappers didn't watch? The most intriguing thing is how can this possibly end well for anybody? I can't imagine...

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There may be a lot of groaning or lamenting later.

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I've just finished "The Classic". Based on my thorough research, I'm prepared to end AYHT in tears (but beautiful tears that sparkle). Namely= They both feature a necklace that belonged to mom.

Nam Shin or Robo Shin, hand me those napkins. TT

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I'm going to ignore this "research" and head blissfully into the shredder, I mean the final weeks.

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hmmm... my memory is patchy but wasn't it the mum story the one that ended in tears? I thought the kids were alright...

#myKidsAndTheirOTPsAreGoingToBeFine
#noTearsForMePLS-evenIfTheySparkle

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The only way AYHT can end well for roboshin is if somehow his brain can end up inside his skull and not in that huge machine that he unknowingly depends on.
Thorough research? I don't get it.

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@ndlessjoie and @charlieblue17 I don't think it's a bad thing to end in tears. I'll take a bittersweet, beautiful ending over a forced happy ending for everyone.

But ok, no more research and theorising for now. We'll be shredded soon enough.

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Linda Palapala the research consisted of WishfulToki watching "The Classic" to see why OriShin cried while watching it. It was purely for research, not due to an obsession with AYHT.

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@ndlessjoie: smacks self on head...oh, now I get it! I didn't realize it was "The Classic" playing in the theatre, nor did I associate any of these comments with Nam Shin. But now I'm confused about "they both feature a necklace that belonged to mom". (I have a rotten memory).

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Don't worry @linda-palapala I should maybe explain my theory more clearly, but I didn't want to write a long spoilery post here (plus it might turn out all wrong come Monday).

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I just need to talk to anyone about this show... IM SO EXCITED.

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This past few eps have been reaally interesting because Shin human woke up from his coma and it's now setting everything on fire. His character is so intriguing... and apparently, there's a reason for why he acts as selfishly and arrogant as he acts (beyond family trauma, there seems to be more to it). On the other hand, Shin III is an evolving AI that seems to be developing feelings. I'm ded and so ready to how this show will go on.

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I'm saving AYHT for my vacation show...!!
I'll tell you what I thought when I've watched all of it!
*HUGS*

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I can’t remember the last time waiting for the next episode of a drama proved so torturous!! After the first few eps, I honestly thought this would be nothing more than a casual watch for me, but now I can’t seem to get enough of the adorable roboshin and the lovely so-bong. Her character has grown so much and is such a pleasure to watch now!!

It’s not the most perfect drama out there (writing is a little lazy at times) and I do wish they shed more of a balanced light on the orig Shin, but damn if the feels aren’t there to get ya. Emotionally, I’m there with the main characters every step of the way, and that’s what matters. Writers really need to end this well now for it to prove a wholesome drama. Pretty please!!!! 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼

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Exactly. I need to be emotionally invested in the characters, and in this drama I feel like I'm peeling off onion layers with every episode and getting to know them a bit better. I did not mention So-Bong in my original post, but her character is the one that has shown the most growth, to the point where she puts me to shame for her commitment in a difficult situation. This is the same girl who was running away from everything in the first episodes? Just WOW.

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I know, is it Monday yet? I can't wait to get my weekly dose of AYHT. And yes, the writing is not perfect but there are things that they are doing very well. It feels like So Bong and NS3 have been with us for ages already. I have seen them grow and now I'm so invested in their happiness. And it's the same with Shin now that he's back and we are seeing more of him. If the end is tragic I don't know if I will be able to handle it. I love these babies. ❤️

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Oh, God. The Classic. Most unnecessarily tragic story ever.

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Well said. Also, writer Jo Jung-Joo is doing what every writer with an imagination should do: ask what if. That's a basic starting point for both science fiction and literature. What if you could make an AI with more integrity, more humanity and better judgment than Homo sapiens? How will the people around him react? Kill him? Love him? Jo Jung-Joo is showing us that the answer is a measure of each individual.

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Life on Mars: I swear, this drama's cliffhanger will be the death of me. I don't know how they still manage to scare the crap out of me whenever Tae-joo is in danger even when that happened literally almost every eps. And I don't think I'll ever be ready for him to return to 2018.

Life: Finally I can see Lee Kyu-hyung oppa back on my screen again. Now I just need to wait for Netflix to release the subbed version. *tapping fingers impatiently*

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What makes you so sure he'll return to 2018??

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He returned!

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Eek, is this in the most recent episode that just came out? I haven't seen it yet! Interesting...

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Yes, sorry for the spoiler! I did not actually spoil it. But you will have to watch I am not saying more. You are up for surprise or may be not.

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I can't remember what happens in the original Brit version - whether or not he returned temporarily to the present. So I'm not sure if LOM/k version follows the original at this point. Anyone remember?

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If they’re going to end LoM as UK original series, I’m going to throw something!!! That would be quite unsatisfying ending for me 😢

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I liked the UK ending, but I'm just weird like that. We don't always need all the answers to life and everything.

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I am actually very impressed with this drama and I have not seen the UK version, but I will after this one. Just to see the cultural differences. I think I will trust the show to give me a good ending, (You know I loved the ending of Signal, so I can join you in being weird. And I completely agree that not all questions in life need t answered, I also followed the same policy for exams in my Uni :P.)

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The real question is: does he return to 2018 (because he regains consciousness) or does he decide to stay in 1988.

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Life on Mars : I like how the mystery is solved piece by piece. The relationships between the characters are the best !

Mr Sunshine : it's a beautiful drama with great characters but the story itself is not very clear.

Are you Human Too : it's a nice drama. I like the subject, very interesting.

What's wrong with Secretary Kim : they lived happily and had a lot of children :D

Thirty but Seventeen : I liked the two episodes. There is a lot of mystery (who went and visited her, who paid the hospital, where his uncle ran away, etc)

Your House Helper : it's nice to see those 3 women helping each other.

My ID is Gangnam Beauty : the beauty and plastic surgery themes can be interesting. I like the first episode.

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Mr Sunshine is a love story couched in the history of the times. Will the writer go as far as Japan annexing Korea? Will the 3 lead males eventually join the Righteous Army? It's more or less following history. Does real history have a plot?

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But History is made by people. Ae Shin wants to save Joseon but she have no idea how, Eugene wants the revanche fo his parents but as politic side, he doesn't seem to care, Dong Mae wants money and it's all ?, Hee Sung wants to marry Ae Shin but after that ? He takes the place of his father ? He never showed any interest about that and cleary he's not a big fan of his family.
We know they all want Ae Shin but for the rest, we don't know anything. I would like they have a purpose other than Ae Shin because if they all made their choices of life about her, they will finish to look pathetic :p

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I think she's the catalyst for their journey to heroic Righteous Army.

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COMPLETED

What's Wrong with Secretary Kim: I thoroughly loved this drama. Like many others have commented, it may have gone on 1-2 episodes too long. I didn't mind too much because I love the slice of life aspect others may have found boring. In that way, it reminded me of 1% of Something (2016). I liked watching them just be. I also really appreciated that no one really changed all that much. Their faults and quirks make them who they are, right up until the very end. This was my favourite PSJ drama, and one of my favourite rom-coms.

ONGOING

Meteor Garden: Shancai is sending me crazy. We're 20 eps. in and Shancai is, Shancai. The weird thing though is that for all the craziness in this drama, it feels real and relatable. Or maybe I've finally gone crazy.

Thirty But Seventeen

Eps. 1-2 we're meh. Eps. 3-4 were awesome. I'm a YSJ fanboy, but I might become a Ahn Hyo-sub fanboy as well.

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I've thought about trying Meteor Garden but can't tell if you're actually recommending it. It's even on Netflix USA.

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Meteor Garden is an alright watch for a bit of nostalgia, but these past couple of eps pretty much killed what little love I had for the show. Despite the acting being rather green, I felt they were doing an okay job with Domyoji’s character - he’s likeable in this...but then his character regressed just to wedge in some conflict between the pair, and then it stopped making any sense. I blame the writers. Some of the changes made to the plot line simply doesn’t work.

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Ah, thanks for the input. I need to be very careful with adding too many shows! The cast looked too young for my taste anyway.

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I tried and gave up at maybe 6. They can't convince me they're older than 12, honestly 🤷🏻‍♀️.

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Hehe the ironic thing is that they are now in college instead of high school unlike the previous J, K, and TW adaptations, and both Daoming Si and Shan Cai are actually IMO smarter and more mature than Geum Jang Di and Gu Jun-Pyo intellectually and emotionally. Go figures!

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@kimbapnoona they're definitely smarter. They play bridge.

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@wishfultoki: Yes, the writers had them play bridge so we'll know they're smarter.

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Hi @kimbapnoona, I believe Taiwan was a college setting and, to be completely shallow, those guys looked like almost-men. I keep thinking of Jerry Yan's hunky arms and looking at these four beanpoles and . . . well, I just can't. 🤣 Yep, I have the depth of topsoil in the desert. I'm with you all the way on Jan Di and Jun Pyo, what a pair 🙄

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@lindapalapala, @wishfultoki, @kimbapnoona,
Jan Di and Jun Pyo would argue over the rules for 52 Card Pickup.

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@bbstl I realized after writing that comment that I actually have not seen the original TW Meteor Garden despite hearing so much about it for years...I am probably the only person from Taiwan who have not seen it.

LOLed at "almost men"....it is like the MG casting director loved the height difference he/she saw in A Love So Beautiful and thought "hey, let's get Shen Yue to play Shan Cai and then quadruple the height difference by casting 4 bean poles as F4!!

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The bridge thing is completely absurd lol but there's a good reason for it: China's censorship. This is a good blog post explaining all the weird plot changes due to the censorship: http://www.dramapanda.com/2018/07/why-meteor-garden-2018-has-poorest-f4.html
I think these changes, while making the characters more relatetable (in some ways), take away a lot from the epic grand romance (aka SC is not longer the one who changed the angry, violent DMS into a normal person).

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It's very bland. While a lot of the quirky over the top vibe of BOFs bugs a lot of people, it definitely made an impression. This version of Meteor Garden seems very watered down though all the elements are there....or else after watching both the Korean and Japanese versions, I should walk away from this franchise.

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I loved 1% of Something. I have it on order as a hold at my library so that I can re-watch it with my wife.

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Your House Helper: 5/10 I'm way behind (watched days 2 & 3 this week) and may not get much farther. I've liked some of the cast in other shows, but the story is so dull I don't care about the cast. Except the cute dog. And even a harem like the male lead seems to be lining up wouldn't be enough to make me do that much housework.

30 But 17: 9/10 A different kind of cute chick than we usually see. A guy who says he's not a weird person, then turns into a weird person. A housekeeper who seems to have wandered in by mistake from some robot show. Better than I'm making it sound.

Are You Human Too:ep 7/10 (ep 9-14) Now we know that Roboshin's real brains are off in a server farm, which helps deal with compute-power and heating problems, but raises new questions. He should go into stupid mode whenever he doesn't have a good connection, and there should probably have been some latency issues when he was in Europe. Meanwhile, I could *almost* sympathize with the head baddie when he was saying how he had to win or he was a dead man because of all the bad things Grandfather had made him do. It's rare to see the head villain that desperate instead of just greedy.

What's Wrong with Secretary Kim: 6/10. Ep 11-16 Ep 11 - "Saved" by the phone just when things were getting interesting. Of course, it's a kdrama. Ep 13 & 14 - There's a fine line between sticking with what works or running it into the ground - the magnificent aura has gotten a bit old and they dropped the excuses to not move forward just barely in time. I've gotten pretty tired of Mr. Workaholic, a bit tired of Se-ra. How about more Ji-ah and Yang Cheol? Show has been gradually losing appeal. There wasn't much plot after the kidnapping/spiderwoman was explained, so it depended on characters & acting, but once the novelty wore off....

Life on Mars: 8/10 for episodes 10 - 12.

Investigation Couple: Series 7/10, including Stephanie Lee bonus points. Dementia case - at least my cats won't fight over inheritance. Serial killer case - also, cats don't bury their victims, only their poop. And those 30-year-old Hwaseong serial murders must have been solved at least 30 times in dramas and movies by now. Their idea of being original is having the comatose person who is about to wake up move a toe instead of a finger. Sigh. Now they are planning a sequel. They haven't earned it, but I hope Miss American-accent-and-mannerisms is in it.

Time, Gangnam Beauty & Your Honor: 3/10. "Thanks" to these, I might have time for Mr. Sunshine & Your House Helper.

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Talking about desperate villains, that's what I loved about the "Tomorrow With You" villain. He's a very believable villain with motivations that make sense.

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lol "stupid mode whenever he doesn't have a good connection"
That made me chuckle. 😂

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It is not a harem, nor is there even any competition over the male lead. If you keep watching Your House Helper you will soon see another man showing up for the actress who was in Woo Hoo Waikiki. And, further down the road...but I do not want to be a spoiler. If anything the viewer gets frustrated at times with the male lead's apparent inability to get over his First Love when the Love of His Life is clearly standing before him.

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What’s Wrong With Secretary Kim: Not going to make my re-watch list, but I liked it for what it was: A simple, fluffy rom-com that was a mostly fun watch.

My ID is Gangnam Beauty: I was wary of this since the plastic surgery angle makes me sad and uncomfortable, and the premiere did make me sad and uncomfortable but also piqued my interest. I like the college setting. I feel like it has the potential to cover some interesting ground.

Time: This reminded me a lot of Secret but with a much greener cast. I feel like the acting had to impress me more in order for me to be in the mood for a melodrama with lots of crying, jerks, secrets, lies and terminal illness.

Thirty But Seventeen: This did not check my box for either rom or com. The thought of romance squicks me out a bit unless there is a time lapse before anything happens. I liked the sweet but dumb nephew and his equally dumb friends (probably because it reminded me so much of High School King of Savvy) but comedy, including the robotic maid, didn’t really work for me.

Dear Judge: I wasn’t planning to watch this and don’t plan to continue but my mom wanted to watch the first episodes. Perhaps it was the angle they were going for, but I felt like Yoon Shi Yoon was overacting to the point it was distracting.

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I tried the first episode of Dear Judge. No, that angle did not work at all, but I I think I was more disappointed to see that again, we have a kdrama mother who prefers one kid and hates the other for no reason (of course, YSY may have invented that sob story). Add an evil twin, and creepy prosecutor who sexually harasses the main girl. Not for me.

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YSY was definitely overacting. Also isn't it weird that nobody in the court found his behavior fishy? I mean he made the rookie officer write the final verdict for a case so how's that normal at all? I guess I would just be staying a couple of episodes just for the sake of lee yoo young.

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As said yesterday in Open Thread - I'm into

Witch's Love is LIFE TIME RISKY ROMANCE . hehe waiting for translation of 2 and only a rom-com can put your heart at ease after LIFE TIME.

Personally i think LIFE's only competitor is TIME. Maybe Gangnam Beauty might challenge both in future but fore now these 2 shows are the shows which consume all energy of Viewers aka audience.

THE HOUSE HELPER 8/10 - Cliche but still this show is such a god slice of life drama. Kdramas can't do Slice-of-Life but this one so far has done quite a good job. All characters are likable except creepy stepbrother who abused his legal sister and we have yet to confirm if SEXUAL Abuse was part of it not.

TIME - 8/10 typical storyline but still it touched part of heart. As usual i'll reduce the score week by week. Its upto show to save its own ratings.
Question - Who is responsible for that young girl's life? Whom you can fault?
Ms. Kim - As i had said weeks agoThis one was softcore porn . We just needed few topless scenes. All that kinky stuff is always left to viewers imagination.

Still 17 aka 17 but 30 - 4/10 Dropped. These is not much wrong with the show but i still find something crucial wrong with the show.

Kakugo - waiting for movie

My Story for You - 7/10 almost dropped. Nothing wrong with the show. ist just that i skipped it for a week and now as per my habit i'm hesitant to pick it back

Your Honour - Dropped.

Witch's Love - almost dropped.

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Good Doctor - episode 2 bored me and i can see how this is a korean remake. Seriosuly, Shindo is the saviour who will bring change!!? This looks good for a Chinese or korean drama not at all suits a Japanese drama.

Seigi no Se - 5 episodes done. based on manga. 7/10 for our heroine.

Marry Me Now? - Almost dropped. No time for nonsense when we so many new shows premiering

Life on Mars - Watched 7 episodes in 2 days and when the show took break, i also took break and now i can't pick the show. I have to surpass this mental barrier.

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Go back to Mars. It's the best show here now... at least for me.

And I want more Moon Shik... more funny moments when he has to spend time with his new family... and without that shoehorned romance with his "hyung's" girlfriend...

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Agreed. Go back to mars. The 2nd half is exciting 😊

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Moon Shik could have been the sole saviour of the show but writer's incompetence is being rewarded by good ratings. These cardboard cut characters could be mold into such interesting characters with a bit of effort and sincerity that i feel baffled watching the kind of crap writer keeps on spouting. I'm actually surprised by the hatred towards Moon Shik when he's the one most lame antagonist there. Its fact that most other characters showed level of hypocricy that can easily rival Moon Shik. But, no, Moon Shik is being thoroughly bullied by the views of one section of audience.

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Yes to House Helper, I like the slice of life feeling as well. I haven't seen this week's episodes, but so far I'm interested the most in the girl who is in love with her gay friend... and then the funny lawyer 😁

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<THE HOUSE HELPER

Sadly they ruined the lawyer for me this week. Camping out in front of the house of a girl to get "one last glance" is stalking, and this show rewarded the guy for it with Sung-ah agreeing to meet with the lawyer for a meal. So not okay.

I also find the lead girl quite bland/boring. Never mind that she was super naïve in the most recent episode – "sometimes there are issues with the company cloud storage". Seriously? It's the second time she left something at home, and she hasn't realised that she can UPLOAD to storage, EMAIL herself AND bring the USB physically to the office if she's really so in doubt about the cloud storage?

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I just ignored all of that easy way out nonsense from writer. I think writer is forcing damsel-in-distress on heroine. There is just too much cliche and convenient stuff circling around her.

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My ID Is Gangnam Beauty: Are we seriously supposed to believe Jo Woo Ri is the most beautiful girl in school? 100 points is extremely generous. Where is Jung Da Bin when you need her? I never read the webtoon, but this premise of the most popular boy in school looking out for the ugly outcast girl, while cliché, never fails to make my heart flutter. It was so frustrating how they refused to let us see teen Mi Rae's face. The girls bashing her looks weren't even pretty. If only her classmates could have known she can dance like an idol. I wanted to strangle those three little brats for bullying fat Mi Rae. I was so proud of her for sticking up for herself. College students are in grave danger of alcohol poisoning. When predatory sunbae gave her a bottle of water, I gasped, "Don't tell me it's spiked." But holy crap, Mi Rae almost got raped.

Gawd I wish Cha Eun Woo could act. His eyes are just void. I am rooting for Cha Eun Woo to pull a Seo Kang Joon. Not only are both from Fantagio, but both are face geniuses of their generations. Seo Kang Joon couldn't act in the past, but look at Shinnamon now. Im Soo Hyang and Jo Woo Ri are too old for Cha Eun Woo and Kwak Dong Yeon. I've read complaints from webtoon readers already from Soo Ah ought to be a goddess to Mi Rae ought to be a fashionista.

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i think they didn’t want to show the young actress’ face because to protect her as she might be criticized (not sure if this is the right word) and feel uncomfortable with being called an ugly person. i personally think they should’ve done so for elementary school mirae too if they were going to blur out teenage mirae’s face.

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I think they will for sure reveal teenage Mi Rae's face later. We are going to get lots of flashbacks since Mi Rae and Kyung Seok have known each other since middle school.

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I thought maybe they didn't show the teen actress ugly face because they were using the main actress and didn't want to let us see that she wasn't ugly (?).

And if they do eventually show us the teen face it will likely just be the lead actress in ugly make up. Or, NO makeup?????

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Ah, so that was the problem with Cha Eun woo. I thought My ID had a few problems production wise, but the premise is so interesting, showing both sides of beauty and the problems each one (being plain or being pretty) can have. I'm watching as long as it keeps being interesting.

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I wouldn't exactly blame Cha Eun Woo. His character walks with the same poker face whole webtoon, it is no wonder that production team chose him, any super handsome guy would do.
Actually, I always thought prince charming was partly to blame for Mi Rae's surgery. He might not have been jerk to her but he probably never tried to be her friend and she actually needed one at those times.
Mi Rae actually looks older than her age even in webtoon (probably due to PS), they even addressed this issue in first episode (when students were getting to know each other).
I agree with you on Soo Ae, not trying to put down the actress, but seriously? Her? She is pretty but not THAT special.

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That’s the thing, here she did have a friend, a best friend in fact. It’s interesting that they left out that detail when we saw her getting bullied. I actually am not liking the addition of the BFF, she feels racked on and unecessary.

I think the PD or the writer felt Mi Rae in the webtoon was a little too awkward for main audiences but I wish they had kept her that way to show the depth of damage bullying and extreme lookism can have on people who are negative outliers when it comes to korean beauty standards.

That’s just me though, most other webtoon viewers might not mind the change.

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I don't think it's fair to blame other people for your own choices. If Kyung Seok is a loner who doesn't want friends, why should he have to change his personality and befriend her? It's not his fault Mi Rae chose to get plastic surgery. I think Park Yoo Na (who got a measly 80 points) is prettier than Jo Woo Ri.

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Why Cha Eun Woo though. Kwak dong Yeon and Cha Eun Woo should have change role because Kwak is more reliable to become the leads at this point.I intially want to pass this. But omg Kwak Dong Yeon is always someone I like in KBS drama special. I will watch for Kwak Dong Yeon.

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Because Kwak Dong Yeon doesn't look like he stepped out of a webtoon, while Cha Eun Woo is a top visual.

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Kwak Dong Yeon is very handsome though. Especially In KBS Special drama SLOW. His hair here is just doesn't give his visual justice. Haha Cha Eun Wo Is... beautiful....

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Che Eun Woo is actually more emotive than the character in the webtoon. I was actually thinking he was coming across as too nice in respect to his non-verbal body language.

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I've started reading the webtoon and watched the trailer and I feel like Cha Eun Woo has a sweet vibe while the webtoon Kyungsuk has a more unapproachable handsome vibe?

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This was a major criticism from fans of the webtoon. That Cha Eun Woo is not cold enough. But Cha Eun Woo can't help being Cha Eun Woo. He's too perfectly nice.

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Ahhh, so that's the issue. Oddly enough, this might be why I like him here still despite how green he is. I like how his character seems a bit softer, more indifferent than outrightly cold, while being secretly really observant (I honestly find that character dynamic hotter than his hotness...if that even makes sense). He definitely needs to be more emotive though, but he doesn't seem completely hopeless in that department.

Perhaps he'll get more comfortable as it goes on. Lol, I'm pulling for him because I thought he was surprisingly hilarious in The Best Hit.

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Like you ,I really like Cha Run Woo here. His handsome face is one thing, but the character itself is intriguing because he comes across as a warm person despite his indifferent persona.

On the other hand, I dislike the use of petty, jealous and vindictive second female leads. And I wish the story hadn't gone down quite THAT route - college campus settings can be done so well without them.

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Here's the thing, while I completely understand your feelings about Soo-ah, I actually do not take as much issue with her presence in the story from a writing perspective, as I would in a typical rom-com that throws in a manipulative second lead solely to stir up conflict between the leads. There are many shows where that addition doesn't make sense within the context of the story. But here both the webtoon and the drama are not setting out just to be about campus life, but rather specifically the bullying a girl goes through for plastic surgery. While it is extremely unpleasant to watch, Soo-ah is clearly the bully in this equation and I appreciate that her necessity to the story is for more than messing with the leads, but rather to be the instigator of the conflicts that Mi-Rae will unfortunately need to face before she learns true self-acceptance. Not having Soo-ah's character could have fundamentally changed the show.

Perhaps I relate to this because the only time I had to deal with a girl like this was at college of all places. I can't remember her name, but my fav of the other girls, the one who looks out for Mi-Rae drinking, really put my freshman year into words with that "why am I back in grade school" comment. Girls like this exist and the issue isn't whether they are present in a story, but rather that they are usually not at all important to the themes the show is exploring, and that actually doesn't apply here.

Obviously that doesn't change how aggravating her scenes are so I still understand your problem. I would have a much harder time with her if Kyung-seok didn't see through her and I didn't live for the moments he shoots her down.

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Honestly I didn't expect much from Eun Woo. I've never seen him as a second lead before and then he's suddenly first lead so I figure his acting would be lacking. Plus the roles I do remember him in is similar to this character he plays here. However, I have hopes because Eunwoo comes off as smart, diligent and hardworking so I'm hoping to see a bit of improvement by the end of the series. lol

Also I found the actor who played teenager Do Kyung Shik to be more expressive. He caught my eyes instead. Do you know who he is? I was surprised by their resemblance and even shocked to find that his voice was deeper than Eunwoo's! How's he supposed to be the younger version ? lol

On a side note, definitely agree about Fantagio...they have a knack for noticing some insanely good looking men! Eunwoo's story about being recruited in the bathroom...hahaha

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He has been first lead in web dramas. Teenager Do Kyung Seok is played by Shin Jun Seop from MYTEEN. He is a '98er, so one year younger than Eunwoo. Eunwoo's casting story is funny but also scary. "Someone followed me into the bathroom." Visuals are always street casted.

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Thank you :)

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Watching Lawless Lawyer and Marry Me Now--really really really enjoying both.

Just finished What's Wrong with Secretary Kim?, and I have lots of mixed feelings: so cute, great characters, enjoyed it, etc--but it also didn't hit that sweet spot for me. something was missing, which i'm sad about, because the potential was great.

Going to make myself finish: The Undateables and About Time this week. Why? I do not even know.

Planning to start (thanks to beanie-influence :p) Life on Mars and Meteor Garden shortly.

Added Mr. Sunshine (cautiously) and Life (eagerly) to my queue, too.

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I am not sure when my brain will recover from being complete mush during my recent workcation in order to tackle Life of Mars, Come Here and Hug Me, and Are You Human Too, but maybe the reason for the slow recovery is because I am watching not much else besides Meteor Garden. Despite some of the anticipated stupidity from our leads, the cute in some of the scenes short circuits my brain into drama nirvana. Certainly having Beanie compadres to hold my hands through the good, bad, and ugly sure makes the trip less scary.

Like a good loving drama addict I picked up a new drama. 30 But 17 is delightful and shows lots of promise to be a great watch! I love all the quirky characters and thrilled to see the Deok-gu the Chihuahua is weaved into of the fated childhood first love connection and the canine actor is listed as a main character on Asianwiki.

Last night I may have found a new unhealthy object of affection. Legend of Yun Xi is set up to deliver crack, pop, and sizzle: a heroine of lower birth who is smart as a whip (spunky candy) who was forced to marry the emperor’s brother (chaebol) whom she called “Dead Ice Cube” (tsundere.) She has mastered the art of poison (geeeenius) and he may not be who he appears to be (birth secret.) The drama starts off with her as the bride telling off the nasty Mother-in-Law (nasty mother-in-law) and for the next few episodes she is tasked by the Emperor’s mother to find a birthmark on her husband’s body. Since he is also super smart suspecting that she has a hidden agenda, they have not yet spent the night together which leaves her scheming of various ways to examine EVERY part of his body (forced skinship, seriously this is so much fun I can’t even.) A few episodes in I can see the bursting chemistry of our OTP is gonna deliver some serious crack.

Oh and did I mention that there is an unadulterated (unfiltered, unpixelated, unfuzzed) butt shot of our Dead Ice Cube? WHAAAATTT?? Have the Chinese Censor Executors’ minds also turned into mush by watching too much Meteor Garden? In any case I am cautious and hopeful for this to stay engaging, future butt shot or not.

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FYI: Legend of Yun Xi is from a novel Poisonous Consort. However, from what I read the drama is totally different from the novel.

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Thanks for the info, @trina! This makes me feel hopeful that the show might have enough interesting plot lines to stay engaging for 48 episodes, and hopefully not go off the rails into the land of the logic fails!

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It does reasonably well if you can accept the sci-fi fantasy aspect to it.

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I certainly didn't expect the Wolverine-esque plot in the beginning but actually finds it interesting so far!

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“Butt shot” hahaha Reminds me of Meizou’s “Asi’s face is as red as a monkey’s butt!” 😂
Is YunXi good? I’m planming on starting that drama after I’m caught up with FuYao...there is also this new drama where characters are half bald? Drama looks so pretty but no subs available....

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I have fallen way behind on FuYao! It takes serious discipline to live watch C-dramas with so many new episodes a week 😅. By episode 30 I have found myself FF almost every scene in Fuyao except ones with Ethan Ruan and Yang Mi. For whatever Fuyao might turned out to be in the end, I am thankful to discover Ethan Ruan through this, He is all charisma.

I have binged the first 9 episodes of Yun Xi the last 24 hours and loving it so far! Yun Xi is everything I want in an heroine -sharp, funny, kind burt not afraid to be manipulative to get what she wants, and cute as a button. The OTP relationship is developing slowly but it is so satisfyingly organic.....I am currently watching the cracky stage of the hero starting to notice all her loveliness which prompts him to take actions to be close to her and to care for her in subtle ways. I just love it when I find a character that doesn't need my suspension of belief to see why guys are falling for her!

What is the new drama you are thinking about starting, @giegie0384?

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I’m enjoying FuYao so much and have yet to find myself using the ff button, like İ did when I binge watched Peach Blossoms (only because I wanted to see what happen next lol) Ethan Ruan is so charming 😍 and I’m having a huge girl crush on YangMi!

I’ll start YunXi then...story sounds interesting. I’m talking about YunXi, but I’m also interested in this drama called The Story of “something” Palace...can’t remember the full title, I think it just started last week and characters are half bald. 😅

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OMG I just saw our tsundere hero cracked a hidden smile for the first time because Yun Xi was thankful that he went through the trouble to care for her wound.....eeeek! Oh boy I have fallen in love! 😍

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Now you’re making me start the drama right now, @kimbapnoona...I love tsundere heroes...but I have to watch ep 34-48 of FuYao first.

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Fuyao: If anyone is in doubt, watch the first 12 minutes of ep 21. I've watched it a dozen times.

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@giegie0384
Yun Xi live reporting: another butt shot sighting (mind blown in the Asian dramas environ). Okay, this one is more a one-inch crack shot, but still, what is going on?

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@kimbapnoona You are cracking me up with your but- I mean YunXi live update 😂

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The Palace of Yanxi is probably what you're thinking of.

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@kimbapnoona—Your recap of Legend of Yun Xi through a k-drama lens is the funniest thing I've read online today. I'm watching Legend of Fu Yao and it would be madness to add another Chinese drama to my queue so ... *adds show to watchlist*

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Also, My Dramalist lists the alternative title as Poisonous Genius Consort, which is hilariously like the fake K-drama titles we spin out here at DB. "Ugly" but Actually Beautiful Lady Doctor Consort.

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🤣 I knew it was unwise to press the play button on episode 1 of Yun Xi since I am already falling behind on Meteor Garden and Fuyao but then Drama God rewarded my bad behavior by giving me one full of my favorite tropes with their subversions!!!! I will forever step backwards on the road of recovery for my drama addiction......happy but sigh......

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It should be Poison Genius Consort actually. Not a great translation. The protagonist is an expert on poisons.

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I've put Yun Xi on pause, but that drama has one of most memorable heroine introductions I've ever encountered. She was already in her wedding gear and the in-law's house was going to turn her away, so she climbed out of the carriage herself, threw off the veil that would be traditionally lifted by the husband, and strutted (?? not sure what the right word would be) up to her mother-in-law like a boss!

I love those scenes of her trying to examine his body and how she has a sketch to cross off all the different parts she has checked.

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I was absolutely delighted by that opening sequence and was hooked! Also even though this is a contract marriage between mothers and even when her father opposed, she levelheadedly committed to it fully because she knew this was the best way for her to gain position and power for herself in that society.

Those detailed body diagrams (at last still with loincloth for modesty) to note which parts of the body she has examined are hilarious. 😂 Manipulating her Mother-in-law to order her son to let her wash his feet under the guise of fulfilling a wife's duty so she can examine them is the stroke of a genius!

I love how shameless she is.....when her husband is holding her fake intelligence reports to the Queen Mother out of her reach and what does she do? Jump onto the prince to gain elevation. Oh I love her!! *hearteyes*

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Yay... someone here who loves Legend of Yunxi as much as I do. I really enjoyed reading all your comments here. :D It's an unhealthy guilty pleasure for me as well. Binged watched all 48 episodes in a matter of days just because I could. ;)

The show does a really good job of integrating the OTP's romance with all the other aspects of the drama. It's a rare beast in that regard. A clever, accomplished female protagonist who can see the big picture and a brilliant male protagonist who can see the big picture. What's not to like?

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*nods furiously in agreement with everything @lilliums said*
Now I have binged a few more episodes like someone who is willing to poison oneself for years to save lives, the only complaint I have are some of the missed opportunities to make their kisses swoonier. The first drunken kiss initiated by her was cute, but I wished his wasn't motivated by jealousy!

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Life on Mars: WOW last week was so action packed and i feel like we're running towards the finale. Anyone who's interested, this show would make a GREAT binge. Why do I get the pressing feeling not all mysteries will be solved? But I trust the writing, because this show has not let me down yet. I said it last week, but it is the best of all currently airing shows right now.

Are You Human Too: I felt so horrid after that cliffhanger. How did I not notice they had switched (won't say more as to not spoil). This show really nails cliffhangers. I'm still dying of curiosity to see how they will solve this human-robot issue, because although we know Sobong says she doesn't mind, roboshin still thinks he's a robot with no emotions... and we all know that's not true. Idk, i want these conflicting morals and dilemmas to be addressed way more than the office politics. Also, good going show for making me pity human shin and then yank it right back with that ending. I'm sorry, what he did was BEYOND rude.

House Helper: still cute and slow but in a good way. I think @teriyaki explained it well. What's alluring for me is the transitioning stage of the girls' lives: they're learning to be independent and are trying to get their life together. My worry is that Jiwoon, at this point, seems to have more scenes with sang A and their friendship is more developed. Thus, i see more chemistry between them than with Do young. Please develop Jiwoon and Do Youngs relationship more, show!

30 but 17: cute. The trauma bit seems like something I've seen before, the female lead is so cute and relatable that I really liked the premiere week. Im staying cautiously optimistic-- WWWSK taught me that.

WWWSK: dropped last week, but all i have to say is SALAD.

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Life on Mars: What an intense week. Some of our questions were answered this week but more questions were raised. Who is the guy talking with Tae-joo on the telephone? What is going to happen to Tae-joo now that he knows who the real culprit behind the murders is and is now dead? Will he able to change the past and save the brother(s)? Arghhh. I have so many questions rn.

Are You Human Too: I feel and understand what OriShin is coming for due to what he has been put through from childhood up until adulthood HOWEVER that doesn't justify his rude behavior toward the people that actually care about him especially to our dearest Shinnamon roll. AYHT still surprise us with good plot twists and complex characters and is proving to be one of the most unpredictable shows (in a great way) of 2018. Now, can we have RoboShin and So-bong be happy in the end after all they have been through?

What's Wrong With Secretary Kim: Lowered my expectations so I can fully enjoy the final week of the show (with some skips here and there) and it worked! We've got a finale full of all the good things we had ever hoped for. Kim Ji-ah and Go Gwi-nam's story made me happy and Secretary Yang and Bong Se-ra's hilariously cute relationship had me in stitches. Park Seo-joon and Park Min-young's sizzling chemistry made me wish for another drama (with a better plot) with them as leads.

My ID is Gangnam Beauty: As someone who had read the webtoon, I was really happy with the changes and additions made in the drama because it worked so well! (Mi-rae didn't have a bff if I remember correctly) Didn't expect much from the first episode but I really enjoyed it. My only complain would be that the Mi-rae in the drama is more shy and timid and her style is so-so unlike the Mi-rae in the webtoon whose style is a bit on the chic side and appears to be chic on her classmates (which is the opposite of her real side).

Thirty But Seventeen: Pilot episodes were fun and the characters are hilarious but the scene stealer Jennifer is so iconic. The plot is interesting, the set-up is nice, and I really like the actors in this show so let's see how the next episodes goes.

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My ID is Gangnam Beauty: I don't like the bff change. Narratively, it would make more sense for Mi Rae to have been an outcast. This newly added friend negates the fact that people didn't like her.

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What’s Wrong with Secretary Kim: A super fluffy, lovely rom-com. I rate it high on my enjoyment scale. The final two episodes did feel like an epilogue, but I didn’t mind. I enjoyed seeing the OTP going through the steps leading up to their wedding. I probably would not have liked the romance as much if it weren’t for Park Seo Joon and Park Min Young. The office side characters & stories were also nice & funny. This show often brought a smile to my face after a long day at work.

Life on Mars: EP 12 was so intense! I’m pleased with the gradual revealing of the plot details. Never a wasted moment. I feel bad for Tae Joo though. His mystery is still unclear. I hope he discovers some big clues. Thank goodness Na Young is safe. I hope she is not in danger anymore. She’s been in danger multiple times already.

Let’s Eat 3: Ji Woo’s budding crush on Dae Young during their college days is adorable. I wanted to see him show a hint of interest in her though. In the present, they’re still acting like friends and nothing more. Ready for things to shake up in the upcoming week (maybe?). I’m attracted to Sun and curious about him. He’s this aloof, no-nonsense guy, totally different from his childhood. I’m looking forward to seeing him outside his element.

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Life on mars : its not grabbing my attention as tight as before, but still great.

Lets eat 3 : first time i watched lets eat and i quite like the story. Im curious about what made this two sister fight each other and i love go dae young college days.

30 but 17 : i like it! I think if the next 2 episodes still as good as the premiere then i will watch at least for 10 episodes. The story so far quite mainstream but i love the comedy and bromance. My favorite scene : "Dont think, feel! F.I.L!"

Your honor : that worm when they perform autopsy in front of those trainees, omg. Im eating while watching that and skip for the next 2 minutes because i love my food. Overall i give the premieres 6.5/10. Im not sure if i will invest into this drama.

Time : the first 2 episodes quite solid actually. But still im not sure if the witer can build up the story and make it more interesting than any usual rich man makjang drama.

Your house helper : teriyaki said it.

Life : where is the sub?!

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Thirty But Seventeen- At the moment, I’m really interested on how Seo Ri will need to adapt her new life as 30s. I actually feel sympathy for her to miss graduating from high school, college life, intern life and work life. I can’t imagine what hell is Seo Ri going thru, but seeing her still can smile shows how she’s indeed 17 as she’s still carefree as ever. ❤️❤️

Let’s Eat 3- Not only we have juicy food, but this season also have juicy drama. The tense between step sisters and how all 4 leads know each other. I love it so far! ❤️❤️

What’s Wrong with Secretary Kim- Love this drama til the end. I love how this drama gives positive vibes about relationships. 4 couples formed in just 16eps! ❤️❤️❤️

Your House Helper- Other than satisfying feelings that I got seeing Ji Woon cleans everytime, I love the relationships development in this drama. Idk why I ship Da Young with Ji Woon so bad. ❤️❤️

Life on Mars- I just started watchig this and oh my!!! I feel like having a heart attack after Tae Jo got shot then got bumped into a car. My soft heart can’t take it, but I’m still gonna continue watching this. ❤️

I haven’t watched this week’s Are You Human Too episodes because I read spoilers and I don’t feel like watching because of the angst at the moment. Anyway, anyone knows where can I watch Life?!

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If you understand Korean you can try watching LIFE here:
https://ondramanice.tv/drama/life-korean-drama-detail

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Thanks🙂, but I don’t fully understand korean and with medical terms and all, I don’t think I can watch this drama without eng subs.

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1. House Helper
i am too deep in its spell no idea why. i just enjoy seeing all the characters living their life while i watch and feel i am sitting right beside them somewhere in the frame.

2. 30 but 17
its soooo cute. Male lead is the introvert i always wanted to see, all attempt from a girl to seek life got wasted with one liners. I fell for him in the scene. I did this many times, and as i turn people start bad-mouth me why am i so arrogant....lol

3. AYHT
Robo Shin vs Human Shin.. battle is on now finally. lets see who wins.
while i wait for LJH to be back in another Rom Com....

4. Life On Mars..
its boggles my head each n every episode and am still enjoying watching it... Miss Yoon is my fav female character so far.

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life on mars- this show keeps on delivering such amazing cliffhangers week after week. I hope the last 4 episodes are equally good.
your house helper- I really like the slow pace of this drama. I don't actually like the lawyer that much..his stalkerish behaviour was off putting...the girl lied to you.Have some self respect!
I really like the senior of DY... initially it looked like she was just an opportunist like everybody else but when it turned out she was trying to save her project I was so happy. Also I really like JW's relationship with both the girls.
come and hug me- since I binge watched, I didn't really have that much time to dwell on the annoying reporter. Some side characters weren't developed properly and the showdown wasn't that impactful, but overall it was a good show.
30 but 17- the first episode didn't really draw me in...but I'm willing to give it another go for YSJ. But I just wish he stop measuring random things. I know it's done for comedic purpose, but it can be downright scary and annoying.
WWWSK- I'm trying to finish this but there's no story .. I was really waiting for MS to find her happiness apart from her relationship with YJ...but since it's not happening... I'm kind of disappointed.

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Re "the annoying reporter" in COME AND HUG ME. I could ask which one. Except for one who had a change of heart at the end they were all fairly despicable. I noted before that I could not remember a drama where reporters/journalists were portrayed so negatively. Anyway sorry for the rant.
I am sure you are referring to Reporter Park Hee-young (in a now memorable portrayal by Kim Seo-hyung).
The plaque for Reporter Park is already up in the Reporter's Section of the KDrama Hall of Fame of Villains.

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Yes I'm referring to her. I guess I couldn't care less to remember her name, seeing that her departure from the show was also forgettable.
I totally agree with you regarding how the reporters were portrayed here.

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Yes, the measuring gets old fast. And it's a waste of screen time that could go to cute animals. Or plot. Or even Subway PPL.

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I thought the measuring things was weird since he was measuring things he must have surely measured before. Like there is no way he would not have measured the outdoor benches in his neighborhood before unless the benches were recently replaced

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He's been away for months (I think?) so perhaps the benches were replaced/newly put during that time, also shhh it's there just for that #chocopieincident to happen to any future couple, we know fate is strong in Korea.

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LOL! I think this will be a new trend in drama land.

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Do I have an affinity for shows with 'space theme'?
Life on Mars
Meteor Garden
Two shows which I'm addicted to and can't be more different in terms of quality.

I've been singing praises of LOM for weeks now. It's just so so good and all it has to do now is finish well and it'd be a 10/10 for me.

Meteor Garden is both terrible and terrific! How did I end up forgiving all those horrible tropes, cheesy moments and worst of all - the male lead attacking the girl in a manner which could get him charged for assault?
I think it's because I see this version most like a manga. From what I've recalled of the Taiwanese MG and Korean BOF, neither gave me that feeling. I should have watched the Japanese version but I didn't.
In anime, violence and all politically incorrect things are common. Maybe it's like how Tom & Jerry. Quite a number of children's cartoons are actually very violent.
Maybe I don't even need understand why I am still watching - my brain has been usurped by Pineapple Head.

Want to watch: Time, Thirty But Seventeen and Life.

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The heavy Meteor shower for the last couple weeks might have caused a drama apocalypse and turned all of us into MG zombies whose diet consist of gorgeous coats and One True Pineapple!

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Gorgeous coats!??

Shouldn't we be as critical of DMS' coats as we were of Kim Tan's(Lee Min Ho) in Heirs?

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The F4 boys have impeccable taste in coats. DMS is just a tad more adventurous with his wardrobe to better coordinate with his pineappled tresses.

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Our Drama Lord,
Give us this day our daily milk tea, and forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive all the MG logic fails which trespass against us, but not the coats because they are our salvation; and lead us not into more Flower Boys temptation, but deliver us from the Pineapple. Amen.

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Sometimes I wonder if our continued consumption of MG is our own form of illogical Shancai-ing. I will offer up a Subway sacrifice to augment your prayer @kimbapnoona. May the Pineapple be with you.

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NamaSHIte, @egads

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I am a total Shancai for lisping the stupid pun @egads
Correction: NamaSIte

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@kimbapnoona I love this prayer. The one thing I have a bit of a beef with is the ending. I think we need to be delivered from Shancai. Unless I'm reading the intent/meaning wrong.

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Hahaha @hades. You are totally right....it should be "deliver us from Shancai" but instead of mentioning what bugs us, how about "deliver us to Pineapple"?

I thought of Pineapple because it sounds closer to the word "evil" in the original Lord's Prayer.

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I thought about trying Meteor Garden, but hmm, maybe not. Right now I'm just adoring Legend of Fuyao. Tongue-in-cheek humor and mocking the fantasy tropes/genre (see my post). But also beautiful moments. Very clever writing.

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Thanks for reminding me about Legend of Fuyao. I might be able to pick it up now that LOM is ending and there's not many kdramas on my plate.

There's something common about Ethan Ruan and Dylan Wang. I remember I was absolutely charmed off my socks by Ethan Ruan in My Queen and Fated To Love You. These actors are darn charismatic and they really shine in roles where they have to be an adorable rascal.

Now, I am wondering which kdrama actor has this rascally charm?

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I hope you try Fuyao! I almost didn't watch it because the first few episodes seem ordinary. And the "evil woman" is very annoying (but she gets eliminated pretty quickly in an ironic way). Look for tongue-in-cheek and a cheeky performance with Ethan Ruan, at least for the first half of the episodes. The latter half he's doing a fantastic job as it becomes more serious. I'm really impressed with his acting, and the chemistry between him and Yang Mi is out of this world.
It seems at first that Fuyao keeps getting rescued by Wuji, but wow, later on she has awesome fighting skills! Since I don't speak Chinese, I'm not sure if some of the place names are tongue-in-cheek, or serious. But I'm guessing tongue-in-cheek since that's a big part of the drama.

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I think I just need to get over the initial eps, this happened to me more often than not in C dramas.

English subs for C-dramas can be lacking or completely off the mark. I acknowledge it's never that simple to capture the nuances and of course certain things which you can only catch in original language.

Okay, now I've officially bump this how up the list.

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@outofthisworld: watch this clip from ep 21. If that doesn't convince you...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMaL-U4V_ZY

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@linda-palapala

Thank you!

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Haha I think you're spot-on; except for removing some major plot points about school bullying, wealth disparity, and DMS's violent tendency, this version is the most faithful to the manga, so that could be why it feels most like a manga to you :D I usually stay away from abusive male characters in manga but Hanadan has this...magic, I don't know how to explain it -_- sigh. Like you said, terrible but terrific!

In the manga, the scene where Shancai told DMS that the arranged-marriage girl suits him better, he was so angry that he slapped her, I'm really glad that they removed that, but in the manga, the slap was the last time he lay a hand on anyone, esp. Shancai, and he felt so terrible about it that he actually decided to give up on her - my point is, the violence in the manga always has a point, but I'm also glad certain violent scenes are changed because you really have to draw the line somewhere >.<

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Thank you for sharing on the manga. When I was watching certain scenes in MG, it was as if I could almost see how the manga would look like. It's not just Shan Cai and DMS but her parents etc.

Agree absolutely with what you said about violence. There are of course resolutions and lessons to be learnt but I rather not have them.

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I have been traveling the past week thus only managed to finish Jenny (liked first episode more than the second) and Wok (let's forget that ridiculous competition with a top chef losing because of time despite it was HIS choice of food... and that childish mom... and only remember the wonderful trio... and food... and kittie... ). 🍜🐈

Feeling overwhelmed with all those new shows. 🙂 So far managed only first two hours of Time and I feel like that for every episode I should watch an episode of School. ☔
(And somehow missing Hwang Jung Eum in this).

Current on Mars, of course. 😍

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Finally I'm able to join this thread again lol. It has been a while I'm not watching a lot of drama.

My favourites are still Life on Mars & Your House Helper. But I have also started some other shows.

Life on Mars - I'm enjoying this ride so much. That's all. Everybody has said a lot, and I'm pretty much agreed with a lot of thoughts.

Your House Helper - I want to ship Ji woon with Da young, but I feel like there's more chemistry between Ha Suk Jin and Go Won hee, so I want to ship Ji woon and Sang A. But there is our Mr Puppy Attorney as well. 😳 Putting potential loveline aside, I'm liking this show. But I wish the characters will be developed more.

Let's Eat 3 - I think for this season, I'm more interested with the storyline rather than their eating sessions.

Time - It gives similar feel like Secret but the big difference is Secret has amazing casts while not for Time. Kim Jung hyun is doing good so far, but I can't say his performance is flawless yet. The rests are still not getting there yet. Second leads are intriguing with gray caracters.

Thirty but Seventeen - I liked premiere week. RoboMaid is my fav character although I like all main casts so far.

Meteor Garden - I'm not crazy about this drama, but will watch it if I have spare time. Still at epi 2.

Witch's Love - Tried epi 1, it looks quite cute. We have Kim Young ok as one of the witches, heee. Maybe I'll continue watching for now.

Interested to watch My ID is Gangnam Beauty. Looks interesting.

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Welcome back to the thread Sera!! Glad to see you here.

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I feel the same about the chemistry beween Ha Suk Jin and Go Won Hee, also doesn't help that Sang-ah already show her worst/unglam side to Jiwoon and they always have this honest conversation with each other. They are like long-term couple, just comfortable talking/jabbing/joking.

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I'm with you. RoboMaid is my fav part of 30, but 17.

I forgot to mention Your House Helper because I'm not caught up, but I agree that Go Won-hae has chemistry with both and I'm torn. Luckily, I do actually like the friendship she has with Ha Suk-jin, so I equally like the idea of it staying platonic.

"We have Kim Young ok as one of the witches, heee." - Haha, oh great, now I definitely need to at least check this out.

I enjoyed the first ep of My ID is Gangnam Beauty so much that I'm probably overselling it a bit in my post, but it surprised me with its depth. I really like the main leads already. Most importantly, it feels like the female lead's growth will be main focus of the show.

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Welcome back chingu!

Meteor Garden - I wasn't hit by the Rock until later like ep 4?

Time - awww....I was hoping Kim Jung Hyun would be good in this. Hopefully it gets better.

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LEGEND OF FUYAO: Have I said a 100 times how much I adore this show? The first few episodes were ordinary until I realized it quite often mocks fantasy tropes and the whole genre. My first clue was "Prince Fierce" the fierce warrior who couldn't even swim. Then there was the mock ppl of a jar of face cream between two guys. And of course to mock the scene where a princess has to embroider, Fuyao complains why do scriptwriters make them do that. Why can't they chop wood or something? But it also has beautiful poignant moments and chemistry out of this world.
Just watched ep 7 of MR SUNSHINE: Finally, some action. It's getting better and better and I can hardly wait for the new episode tomorrow. But there are some fans who might be disappointed in who loves who in the developing love triangle/quadrangle(?).
TIME: So far it's pretty good. I love me some melodramas. Sometimes over the top but still good enough to keep watching.
GANGNAM ID: Surprisingly good because it's giving both sides of the beauty dilemma and the problems both being plain looking (bullied) to plastic surgery beauty which brings about it's own problems of especially guys who want to have you because of your looks (she was almost sexually assaulted).
ARE YOU HUMAN and LIFE ON MARS: No need to elaborate, everybody else on this forum says plenty.

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Why do I always forget to mention something! In ep 7 MR SUNSHINE I was so happy I'd just read a bit about the history during that time. A U.S. company really did start to build the railroad but then sold it to a Japanese company, and the Japanese really did use the railroad as a starting point to build more which eventually facilitated the Japanese takeover of Korea. In the drama the hidden money that Eugene has must eventually fall into the hands of the Japanese and they use that money to buy the railroad.

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Legend of Fu Yao is love!

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I'd almost rather the title be "The Journey of Fuyao and Wuji". That's beautiful.

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The Journey of Fuyao and Wuji....with their pet Yuan Bao! I never thought I would love the CGI hamster so much!

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Yuan Bao? Ingot???

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Yuan Bao, cutest pet ever and a life saver! The writers did a marvelous job with his role.

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Hello Beanies. Happy weekend to all!
For this last round of dramas, I was watching four on-air, two on M-T and two on W-Th, so I had two hours a day which was good and manageable. For M-T, it was About Time (which I ended not liking so much) and Miss Hammurabi (which was consistent enough to enjoy). On W-TH, it was CAHM (which was made more interesting because I watched it with friends) and WWWSK (which was so cute and fluffy). I was happy with this schedule, but then I wasn't feeling so good and needed a distraction, especially since I had nothing for the weekends. So I checked out some Cdramas to binge while I wasn't so good. I watched When A Snail Falls In Love (which I really liked and enjoyed although the romance could've been shown better) and Medical Examiner: Dr Qin (which was also very good although there was no romance, but the trio of friends were awesome). Since I saw many things the last couple of months which kind of burnt me out and I'm feeling a little better, I was thinking to wait before I started live watching anything. Maybe see what everyone thinks before I get into a new drama. Give my eyes a break you know. But, as you all know that never works out.
Me:*Five minutes after I finished WWWSK* You know what, I should probably take a small break and get back into my hobbies or watch movies with my fam before I dive into new dramas again.
Me an hour later: It's hot, I'm bored! There is nothing to do. It's too early to go to sleep. What should I do? *Presses play to a Cdrama- Love 020* Well, all episodes are out, so technically I’m keeping my promise and not live watching anything.
Sigh. Guys, me and the heat don't go well together.

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Just a quick shoutout to @egads because I'm pretty sure you were the one who recommended Dr Qin and WASFIL to me in one of our rabb.it chats. They were even more interesting than the kdramas I was watching at the time. Thank you😀

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Dr Qin is such a gem. I’m glad you liked it. There’s a second season with a different cast unfortunately, but no one seems to be subbing it,

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Ahh man. I would totally be up for a second season, but it sucks it's with a different cast, I don't think it would work. Those three were gold together.

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