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Team Dramabeans: What we’re watching

So, what are we all watching this week?

What kept you reaching for more (or agonizing when there was no more), and what made you want to throw your remote through the screen? Time to weigh in…

 

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Mr. Sunshine: There’s a lot going on and we’re still setting the pieces in place, but everything looks cinematic and grandiose in a way we don’t often get in dramaland, and that’s refreshing (even if I don’t think it quite hits Goblin levels of emotion or scale). The time period feels like we’re on the cusp of something significant, a feeling that carries over into the drama itself. I don’t know yet if I like the show, but it has me interested. I can’t help but wish we were centered around Yoo Yeon-seok’s antihero journey into redemption and self-acceptance, though, because I find his Dong-mae a helluva lot more electric than boring ol’ Eugene, and think his arc will be a lot more gripping.

What’s Wrong With Secretary Kim: I feel like I’m meant to care more about the kidnapping backstory than I do, but I hope that now that the truth is out, we can move past the not-quite-mysterious foreshadowing and return to focusing on Young-joon and Mi-so’s relationship. Kidnapping has overstayed its welcome crashing on rom-com’s couch, and rom-com would like to reclaim its home, please.

Are You Human Too: I’m a week behind on this. Shinbot is still painfully adorable and I appreciate that our heroine is the only one who really sees him as something more than a machine or a program. You could argue that she’s too far gone on the other extreme, perhaps seeing him as more human than she ought, but maybe that’s not such a far-fetched concept when she’s actually starting to change Shinbot’s AI. I’m still not sure I’m going to be happy with the resolution for him, but in the meantime I’ll enjoy his sweet, guileless personality while I can.

 

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Mr. Sunshine: I know they were going for a splashy, epic premiere, but I honestly didn’t connect with the story at all until the second episode, when Kim Tae-ri’s character came to the forefront. I get that the hero’s lack of allegiance to his homeland is the whole point of his character arc; it’s just so much easier to connect with a character who feels very passionately about fighting for Joseon, especially when she’s defying social norms to become an active gunslinger for the resistance. So far I’m impressed with the women in this drama and encouraged by the fact that the pretty, delicate noblewoman is in fact a hotheaded rebel-in-training. Yes, please. More of that. And more of Yoo Yeon-seok. There is never enough Yoo Yeon-seok in life, ever.

What’s Wrong With Secretary Kim: I was bored by all of the heavy focus on the kidnapping backstory and hyung drama this week, but hopefully that means we’re past it now? We’re past it, right? It’s nice to finally see Park Seo-joon’s side of things, and all the little ways in which he (secretly, stupidly) cared for Park Min-young over the years. Now that the dramatic stuff is over with, can we just stick to office coming out shenanigans and awkward bedroom seduction tactics? No one’s pretending that’s not what we signed up for.

 

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Investigation Couple: I’m happy that I stuck with this one through the major slowdown just to get to the final case. A new investigation reopens a decades old case and the pressure is on both the prosecution and forensic teams to solve it. They have learned to work well together and this investigation should highlight that fact. This drama has been a challenge to stick with, but something about Jung Jae-young’s Baek-beom kept me coming back. I’m hoping that there’s a possibility of real happiness waiting for the lonely medical examiner.

Your House Helper: This drama acknowledges how bogged down people can get when their personal spaces are cluttered. Ji-woon restores order to his clients’ homes and in the process, they see their lives more clearly. He’s an interesting cross between an organizational whiz and a psychologist. I’m eager to see how Da-young and her new roommates will be further influenced by Ji-woon’s advice going forward because clearly their lives have stalled for one reason or another.

 

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Handsome Guy and Jung-eum: This mediocre rom-com was the perfect thing to watch in the post-surgical haze after I got my wisdom teeth out this week, but I doubt it will leave any lasting impression on me—and not because I’ve been hopped up on painkillers. It’s a shame that it’s such a paint-by-numbers story, with a plot that would have worked fine in twelve hours but drags in sixteen. Especially so because I had such high hopes for this reunion between Hwang Jung-eum and Namgoong Min, who had their wires so heartbreakingly, beautifully crossed in Can You Hear My Heart. This cast certainly has the acting chops for a much more demanding script, but not only are the lead roles lackluster, the secondary roles are wasted on Choi Tae-joon and Oh Yoon-ah. I’ve put away my hopes for a cracktastic watch, and decided to simply enjoy the cuteness of the OTP, who are complete dorks in love by this point.

What’s Wrong With Secretary Kim: This was a week of heavy reckonings with the past, for both Mi-so and Young-joon, and I really love how the show slowly unraveled the details of what happened that day, and what both of them have been dealing with in the years since. Young-joon’s long-overdue conversations with his family were hard to watch but they were also my favorite scenes this week, because we finally saw Young-joon release all that pent-up hurt and show his vulnerability to the people he’s been sacrificing his own happiness to protect all these years—people who are rightly guilt-stricken, because they should have been the ones protecting him. But it was also beautiful to see him take the first steps toward reconciliation and healing, despite the pain, and for Mi-so to be right there for him, just as he was with her the previous day when all her memories hit her full force. I adore these two together. As funny as their “semi-living-together” hijinks were, what truly moves me is how honest and rock-solid their relationship is in the tough times. And I will never understand how Young-joon manages to be totally overbearing and obnoxious and yet completely respectful of Mi-so’s wishes at the same time. Guess it’s that Park Seo-joon magic. (Now I just want her to drop her Secretary Mode when it’a just the two of them. Surely he’s earned an upgrade to permanent Oppa status by now, Mi-so?)

 

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Mr. Sunshine: I like it. I think. Which I’m slightly disappointed about, since I wanted to love it as much as I loved Goblin’s opening week. I mean, the show is absolutely gorgeous and the plot covers quite a lot of ground in the first two episodes, so I’m trying to put a finger on why it hasn’t sucked me in quite yet. I’m hoping it’s just a side effect of having a story that’s so sprawling with a large ensemble cast, that the show has yet to build momentum, and is still in its introductory phase. I think Goblin definitely benefited from the comparatively simple plot: Find the goblin bride and finally die. Here, there’s a whole bunch of characters that sort of act like they’re the leads of their own dramas, and it feels like narrative whiplash when we jump from one to another. That might be why I found the most compelling scenes to be the ones featuring Jin Gu and Kim Ji-won’s cameo: They had a clear objective, and they had a single villain. I’m hoping that all the threads start converging soon, because I’m really enjoying the unique backdrop of this story’s time period, both visually and narratively. I want to love you, Show, just let me love you!

What’s Wrong With Secretary Kim: I’m so glad that we got some explanation as to why every single member of Park Seo-joon’s family reacted in the weirdest way to the childhood kidnapping. It’s still not satisfying, to be perfectly frank — like, what the hell, Mom and Dad, why did you let one son take the blame for something he didn’t do and let the other wallow in misplaced, self-righteous anger? — but I’m just happy to have moved on from that subplot. I mean, I was really over the older brother being generally obnoxious when we knew as the audience that he wasn’t the victim. This show is at its best when our main leads are being cute and I’m looking forward to four more episodes of more cotton candy fluff, even if I’m scratching my head at whether this story even has enough filler to occupy four more hours. Oh well, I could watch Park Seo-joon in three-piece suits flirt all day, so I’m not complaining.

To Jenny: This is adorable. I always take promotional material with a grain of salt, so I’m quite surprised by how true to its premise To Jenny has turned out to be, at least in the first episode. It’s a sweet story about first loves, taking risks, and above all, the music that permeates each characters’ lives and dreams. And as I had hoped, the soundtrack itself acts as another character in the show, with a mix of well-known pop/indie hits and quirky original songs that are reminiscent of the classic band Song Gol Mae or the more recent Kiha & the Faces. I started watching this show for Kim Sung-chul, but I’ve been pleasantly surprised by the whole cast, from the sassy younger sister, to the lead’s friends. Also, who else needed to do some Internet searching after seeing the soldier asshat from Smart Prison Living being all dorky and musical here?

 
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Ms hammurabi: kind of draggy this week, but still good.

Wok of love : beside chil seong's mom got cancer and poong trying to wake sae woo up to sleep with her, i have to say this week is the best week for this drama. Hope for the last week even better.

CAHM : oh, this week so intense and sad and quite thrilling. Hyunmoo and mom imagination about life without a monster were so sad. And hyun moo problem i think isnt about he doesnt get enough love, he doesnt know he is loved. And na moo smiling to that killer was much scarier than him beating that killer.

To jenny: this show is fun and good. cant believe it being produce by new director and writer. Male lead's sister so cheeky and adorable.

Your house helper : this one so far like my facorite sback. Its not full of nutrition like proper meal, but i love it. And i eager for more. It is light but not boring. I think im already in for about 10 episodes. Ibhope tge story getting better because usually this kind of drama can get draggy and sloppy in the proccess.

*i miss life on mars.

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Greasy Melo: Still loving it (and adore our trio leads) despite the drama now feels a tad unfocused and repetitive.

to.Jenny: Love, love, love. The OSTs simply stuck inside my head the moment I heard them. The leads are too adorbs and the little girl is such a confidence goal. I'm totally enjoying the music-making scenes and kinda sad that it's only 2 eps long.

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Tiramisu cake... tiramisu cake... I've been singing the song everywhere lol

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Do not make me hungry.. Now, I want Tiramisu cake... 😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣

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WOK- I want to continue watching the show because I love, lovethe leads but it’s snooooooozefest.

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<the little girl is such a confidence goal

I love the little girl, but even more so I love how seriously her brother takes her as his confidante and adviser for everything. It's actually a totally adorable and beautiful brother-sister relationship.

And the songs are hilarious! They are so out there in their ordinariness/randomness (tiramisu cake, samgyeopsal – everything is a topic of a song!) that they are actually quite brilliant.

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Investigation Couple: I am happy that we get a new lawyer and new case. I can’t wait to see how they resolve the new case.

Legend of Fuyao, Legend of Yun Xi (need better subbing and need to catch up subs of YouTube.), Sweet Dreams and My story of you: I need to catch up with all these shows.

Mr. Sunshine: I think they need to make this 30 episodes because 24 is not enough with so many storylines and casts. Also, they will change YYS character and we will see that on episode 13. I would rather have him they way he was and not change it. Oh well... I still love the cinematography and music and everything else. Episode 3 was good but why sooo many camero shots of close up face especially LBH. OMG, soo many headshots of him.

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Mr sunshine: I don't think having 30 episodes is a solution. Yes there's a lot of cast and storyline, but the pacing of the show is so off. Like you said, waaay too much time spent on brooding characters just staring into the cameras. If they could cut all that out, 24 episodes is more than enough for a good epic historical show.

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The Handmaiden’s Tale: season finale was good. I was happy that she pushed Aunt Lydia (forget her name) down the stairs. However, I do not want her died yet. I want Aunt’s Lydia back story. I want to know how she got that position because you cant just leave us with what happened to her mention the nephew and that is it. Also, I so want June to go to that truck with her baby. However, I do understand that she need to get her other daughter out. Therefore, I can’t wait to see how it will played out Season 3. I hope season 3 is darker than season 2. Congrats to Emmy nominations and hope they win Emmy’s awards.

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Greasy Melo I love it, I'm annoyed by it, I love it, I thought it was go a slightly different way. I guess this was a realistic romance for me as well as for our leads.

Are You Human Too Have, under instruction, picked it "the fuk back up". I still think all of the interesting ideas and characters are weighed down by a trailer load of kdrama tropes so heavy it might collapse underneath them.

Meet me @1006 Why? I don't know. I watched all of it. Who can explain it? The female lead made me want to strangle something but the story was interesting enough.

About Time The story of my delayed plane, my tired brain, and my decision to watch the first episode of this was short and painful. I picked it up, I instantly dropped it, I will not be back.

And... that's it. I got no time, yo. I have decided to binge LoM and WWSK. I may pick up House Helper but not this week. Life is happening. A lot.

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Meet me @1006! Hi there, glad to read someone else gave this drama a shot on here. The premise is great isn't it. But like with tons of Taiwanese (and Mainland) dramas, I'm having trouble finishing it all. Your issue with the FL sounds familiar, aside from the slow plot developments all dramas decide to dumb down their female lead. WHY do they do that?? With a capable team this has great potential in SK.

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Actually the last 10 episodes are very very good. Skip until about episode 19 or 20 and then finish it.

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I didn't think she was dumb. She was a reporter and an ordinary person. Although she spent quite a bit of time crying, in her position I would have done the same. In the end, she was a strong person, just not "in your face".
Just what do you mean "dumb down" anyway?

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To continue, I think Lego Lee's character wasn't how a real male would react either. He thought she was a ghost at first. A lawyer should have applied logic. And the first scene in the tub, what kind of reaction was that for a male?

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I thought she was excruciatingly stupid. And the actor deciding to play her like a petulant 5-year-old trying to explain what happened to the last chocolate chip cookie did not help.

I have quite a lot of thoughts on my fan wall about the show if you wanted to drop by.

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Then I really wish you would watch a few minutes of Love's Lies, because that was really really bad - even I noticed how bad it was! Not only was the female absolutely stupid, the actress couldn't act. Since I watched 1006 after Loves Lies maybe that's why I didn't think it was so bad...

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I had to drop it because everyone was acting dumb and it really looked the whole show was dragging on. 1st 2-3 episodes are good but then it falls flat. Heroine is super annoying in 1st 5 episodes with all nonsensical and illogical acts.

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Like most Taiwanese shows they need to fill a ridiculous number of episodes. I think one episode was entirely devoted to filling their PPL quota (apparently her fridge is excellent, Subway is delicious, and vegetable juice is better than any other beverage).

They also love their romcom tropes, especially cohabitation tropes. None of these made sense in the context of 46 minutes.

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Maybe this is why I quite often watch the last five episodes of a drama first?

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Re: ppl and Subway. Will they ever learn too much of something is a bad thing? Makes me never want to eat a Subway.

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I was in love with meet me @1006)))

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The infantilisation of the female characters was the big drawback for me but then I could say that about a lot of Asian dramas (and I do, I do).

The show had two things I liked - one of the antagonists was a Nice Guy and the male lead was less a tsundere than an Anti Nice Guy (we need a word for that).

There is quite a lot of violence against women across the show and it is always portrayed as a bad thing even in cases where there was alcohol involved or she was sleeping with someone. It refused to slut shame anybody, even minor characters, and the male lead never responds to the female lead being in danger by trying to lock her up.

Zhen Yu may have spent an inordinate amount of time wanting to “protect her” but he never suggested she stop investigating, he never tried to control her and he even recommended she get the help of his nemesis.

He was quite an impressive male lead overall, even in his "jerk" personna.

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I tried Meet me @1006 upon reading the recommendation last week. I lasted a grand 5 minutes. I didn't give it a fair chance but that opening court scene irked me so much. I think I have forgotten what TW dramas are like. Just need to get used to their style again.

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That courtroom scene was egregious. But then I don't think I've ever seen a satisfying TV trial.

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@leetennant @outofthisworld
Re courtroom scene: creative license? I've never seen a realistic courtroom scene either so I just let it pass with a chuckle. But then real courtroom scenes are usually too boring. With the exception of...
A couple of my experiences as a juror in two superior court trials. The defendant woke the judge up when he got up and yelled "you're lying! at a witness" And yes, the judge had fallen asleep. His brothers (several big huge guys) threatened the jury. In the deliberation room one juror said he hated cops and for that reason he was voting not guilty. I could go on...

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I can accept liberties taken in name of creative license but some dramas are too much. The worst are actors who can't play the part of a lawyer or prosecutor realistically. I get that we have colorful characters in real life but which lawyer gets away with histrionics all the time?

Miss Hammurabi might be quite dramatic at times but the court scenes are pretty good.

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@leetennant @outofthisworld
Eeks,
I did say to not trust my judgment! To be honest, when I say I've "watched" something, I rarely watch every minute of any drama. I use ff quite a bit, especially with minor characters and stuff I don't care about. If this sounds like an excuse for liking 1006, well, yes it is! I mostly liked the ending episodes because they resolved the time merging. Since I had suspended belief anyway because time merging isn't too realistic I suspended all belief. (Wait, is it suspend belief or suspend disbelief?) But this was my first Taiwanese drama so I didn't have the prior experience of what they're like. I've heard T. dramas are usually fluffy romcom and I'm not interested in that so I've never tried another.
Re Chinese fantasy, some of the earlier ones I sort of watched, I thought they portrayed females as evil witches who will steal a man's soul if you let them, and you will let them. I'm specifically referring to Legend of Zu Mountain.
I'd still love to read your rantings on Love's Lies!

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LOL, ranting about Love's Lies is starting to sound like fun. I'll see if I can find it.

It is suspension of disbelief and I find I can accept time merging better then I can accept a defence attorney finding a supposed murder weapon and not turning it over to the prosecution before the trial.

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Since I've seen plenty of dramas that evidence isn't turned over to prosecution or vice versa, I took it with a grain of salt, so to speak.
Question: Don't females write 99.9% of dramas? Why would they infantilize females so much? Have you watched Love Me If You Dare? One person said they couldn't stand the female because she was strong at first and then suddenly became weak, which happens so much in dramas. I didn't think so. She was only 19 to begin with, naive and a nice person. Her strength wasn't strength, she was just flirty. She was strong at the end I thought. ( I read the novel online and it was quite smutty...)
Love's Lies, I thought the female was so stupid, or at least whoever wrote her character wrote her that way. The entire plot was a mess. I did like the 2nd lead story with the cop and the female Dr. They didn't get enough screen time however.
I'm trying to remember what an author told me once about female characters in literature. They only have power if they're 1) an alien/witch/supernatural power, 2) a cop. Can't remember the 3rd way.

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Question: Don't females write 99.9% of dramas? Why would they infantilize females so much?

Yes and I don't understand it either. It was one of the things that confused me when I started watching kdramas. There are quite a few problems with the representation of women in American and UK shows but the industry is highly male dominated and that gets the blame.

But kdramas are written by women. Not sure about Taiwanese or Jdrama.

I remember watching W for the first time. It's still one of my favourite shows - although that's despite rather than because of the juvenile fan-girl female lead.

I was astonished to find that a woman created that main character, but no more astonished than when I watched Goblin.

I admit I'm often harsh on kdramas compared to other countries because I find Jdramas are saddled with Kawaii culture and everything about that is shockingly infantilising. i find Taiwanese shows have an element of that too. I guess it's a cultural import? So I guess I expect more out of Korea and get more upset when they infantilise women.

Have you watched Love Me If You Dare? One person said they couldn't stand the female because she was strong at first and then suddenly became weak, which happens so much in dramas

I haven't seen it but the "introduce strong female character and then disempower her when she becomes the love interest' is a real problem. My favourite go-to example of that is Strongest Deliveryman, where the female character had her own story and her own arc but once they started dating she was just 'lead's girlfriend'. Her screen time dropped and she lost her own arc.

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@leetennant: Oh, this is interesting. Yes, I'd take character driven over plot driven any day. @pakalanapikake might want to join in because she knows more than I do.
Western shows are usually based on the 3 act play: Introduce conflict, escalate conflict, resolve conflict, so there's usually a winner/loser (good guy/bad guy). I'm thinking most Asian drama are more based on the 4 act play of Ki-sho-ten-ketsu, where conflict isn't the main focus. Introduce characters, Develop characters, Introduce some kind of "twist" (not in the traditional sense) it could be a new character, unexpected development, complication, etc. (Goodreads had an excellent explanation). Reconciliation. There may or may not be a winner/loser, good/bad, etc.
Both western and Asian dramas middle sections can drag or be boring, imo because they're setting up the end game.
Apparently Breaking Bad was based on the Shakespearean 5 act play, where after the 2nd act of escalating the conflict, things start to go bad and then get worse.
I'm not an expert at this by any means, so you probably are more knowledgeable than I am.

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@leetennant: Love Me If You Dare is one of my favorite dramas. I'd never thought of her as starting strong and becoming weak. She was a college student, naive, no experience. While the comment was she started strong, I thought she was just flirty. He adored her, she adored him. He was the nerdy genius with no experience either and she was the first girl he'd met that was genuinely nice and caring. That was enough for me. I started watching kdramas because I'm sick of American shows. At least kdramas have heart. A friend told me Korean shows are about surviving in a harsh society/culture, whereas American shows are about hope. I just think most American shows the past few decades are shallow and no heart. I was so amazed that kdramas were so emotional and dealt with people actually caring about one another. I pooh-poohed Chinese dramas for the longest time and only tried Nirvana in Fire 2 for some reason and I've watched it 4 times and now I'm on my 5th. It took awhile to get so many characters straight.

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(I always hit send too soon). Don't the female writers write men how they wish they were but in reality no way are men really like that. One actor even admitted it. Don't male authors usually write females how they wish they were?

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I agree with your friend. Korean shows are about finding a small group of people to survive the world with, American shows are about the belief a small group of people can change the world.

The first is entirely character driven, the second is entirely plot driven. That's why kdramas often meander all over the place unable to resolve narrative threads and American shows often characterise in broad strokes. The first is the source of the "it was so good until episode 14" complaint made about almost every kdrama ever and the second is the source of the "shallow" complaint.

Of course there are great shows from both countries where the writers manage to both tell a great story and do great characterisation. But you don't know what's cream and what's milk until you taste it unfortunately.

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"Also, who else needed to do some Internet searching after seeing the soldier asshat from Smart Prison Living being all dorky and musical here?" This comment from tipsymocha is why I am now going to check out To Jenny.

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WWSK: I was right in my theory of Hyung manipulating his memories to cope with his guilt (I learnt something educational from a drama, thank you Suspicious Partner). Had they shown his side of the story more we would actually have sympathized with him. Secretary Yang is boyfriend goals. So glad we moved past the whole kidnapping fiasco.
AYHT: Roboshin taking charge was soo satisfying. Even more satisfying was Mom getting called out for acting like crap. Bromance was on point. He's definitely on the Ye Line. Seo Kang Joon, words are not enough to express my love for you (that smile, it might just cause a heart failure)

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I've only watched 2 dramas this week:
Marry Me Now - I seem to have fallen in love with this drama even more and like it every bit as much as Father Is Strange...!
Wok of Love - just watching it for the cute and the chemistry at the moment. I think that I have been hypnotized, I keep having an overwhelming desire to do 2 things: adopt a kitten and eat dim sum. *sigh*

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I get sudden urges to eat jajangmyeon. It has almost become a swear word in my vocabulary. I´m just chill and minding my own business and then.. Jajangmyeon!!!

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😂😂

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I cook jjajangmyeon before every episode. It's the only way to make it through.

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I have those little packs of seaweed with perella oil. Oh goodness. 😳

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Any beanie who is watching the new Meteor Garden? Really wanna know how it is. The trailer seemed nice and the lead girl seemed more natural than Jan Di, I guess. Also how long does it take for C-dramas to get subbed??

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I don't know where you are from but I've heard in the US that Netflix is picking it up. This is gossip so not 100% sure. MyDramaList might have the specifics.

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Yeah it’s on Netflix here until episode 6 . But I really didn’t like Shen Yue here . The voices is dubbed and the reason why the lead falls here is very very (how do I put it) not convincing . They should probably would have spent some money of the huge expenditure on writing the story/ screenplay better.

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Only 2 dramas kept me past 2 episodes this summer: Secretary Kim and Life On Mars.

Regarding Secretary Kim, I’m seriously mind boggled by the comments to do away with the kidnapping. My concern is less about being faithful to the webtoon (I only read it cuz I wanna know the difference). Like, what is expected to fill in the plot? I’m already worried that the last 4 episodes will be plotless anecdotes for product placement. And although the side characters are interesting, placing too much emphasis on their stories will draw attention away from the OTP and will eventually make me pissed. I like it this way, fluffy romance lined with heart-tugging backstory.

As much as I like the cuddles and kisses, I can’t stand long rom-coms with nothing going on. If it’s more than 3eps, something needs to be happening aside from the romance, be it family or work. I can’t imagine how ridiculous it would be if they shifted to office stories, cuz nobody is really “working” (seriously nobody looks competent in that office except VP, even Kim Miso is just a conditioned secretary, not brilliant)

And Life On Mars is just… so… damn… good. The acting, the cinematography, the retro props and costumes, the “domesticating” by using real Korean crime stories, every aspect shows devotion of production company. Some scenes just leave me gasping when it’s all over. I’m gonna go watch the original.

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This has been my first time live-watching a bunch of shows and each week my weekly report has got a little shorter.

Are You Human Too?
This was the highlight of my Kdrama week. I love it so much. A large part of this is down to Seo Kang Joon and Gong Seung Yeon's chemistry and performances. So-bong and Nam Shin III are adorable, and I only want good things for them. I'm still as unsure as ever about the complexity of Nam Shin's AI, and whether the show will ultimately let an AI achieve personhood. The fact that Oh Ra's response to his changing behaviour has been fear and frustration hasn't really helped on that front, because it seems she has effectively seen him as a wind-up Nam Shin doll towards which she could act out mothering behaviours.

I am onboard for the foreseeable, though afeard of what the future will bring for the precious leads. Though, please KDrama, fewer cutesy bike ride montages. It just makes me ZZZZZzzzzzz.

What's Wrong with Secretary Kim?
I've had a wee rant on my fanwall about this week's episodes, mainly about episode 12. I am frustrated with Young Joon's good intentions trumping genuinely considerate behaviour. Again, it's that age-old romance trope of woman-teaches-emotionally-illiterate-man-how-to-be-a-decent-person: he oversteps, she kindly and calmly explains why it's an overstep, he apologises, and grows as a person. Rinse and repeat.

The Parks are so pretty and so much fun to watch, and there are plenty of moments where I've laughed out loud. Yoo-shik, Se-ra, Cheol, et al. have also been unepected delights. But GOD YJ is so presumptuous. Episode 13's preview of Secretary Kim calling him 'Bulldozer' is keeping me on the hook for next week.

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Wok of Love
Sae Woo and Poong have had such sweet moments this week (and such wonderful kitchen kisses). I'm a bit disappointed by the move to the Giant Hotel, which seems bland and anonymous in comparison to the crowded, colourful Hungry Wok. I don't quite see that as a win within the wider context of the story, especially since the hotel is still massively in debt. Sae Woo's parents are ridiculous ingrates and - tedious disapproval of her chosen partner aside - have no right to prevent Seol-ja or Geok-jeong from doing work they find rewarding.

There are so many loose threads I don't know how it will all be wrapped up by the end. I love my Hungry Wok gang, but I do have to admit it's been more than a little hit-and-miss.

P.S. Let Sae-woo sleep, Poong.

Mr. Sunshine
ISo far I am intrigued by the historical setting, which is so unfamiliar to me. I think I'm watching as much for educational purposes as for entertainment. While DoS and Goblin were epic nonsense, I can't deny that that there was something in both shows that kept me coming back for more. (Except the last two episodes of Goblin. Still haven't managed to get around to them.) I'm not feeling that compulsion yet with Mr Sunshine, and I am assuming it's down to the show prioritising scene setting over character dynamics in the first two episodes. That said, I am also quite sceptical that I will be cheering on Lee Byung-hun and Kim Tae-ri's romance. But that might just be because LBH kinda creeps me out, tbh. I don't know why. He just does.

Sketch's last episodes air this weekend. I'm sad to see it go.

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I'm going to miss Sketch too.

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Miss Hammurabi! I skipped episode 14 because it was too intense and stressful for me. Episode 15 made me alternatively happy (kiss! or lip smush?!) and anxious (what will happen to Se Sang)? I have loved this show a lot.

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Sometimes I think "that age-old romance trope of woman-teaches-emotionally-illiterate-man-how-to-be-a-decent-person" is 9/10s of all romances. Not just K-romances, either: see Beauty and the Beast.

It's particularly disappointing in K-dramas, though, when the heroine starts out as "kickass" (even when that manifests in some eye-roll-worthy depictions) and then loses all her spunk, personality, and drive in service to understanding and (in the end) domesticating the problematic, arrogant, assy hero through the power of luuurv.

And why, oh why, is it so often a rich man/poor woman?

I hope the trope is dying down somewhat now. The more egregious examples are a little older. (I'm looking at you, Secret Garden, You are Beautiful, and Boys Over Flowers.)

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Belated reply! Yes, not just a Kdrama one, for sure. It's so exhausting and disappointing in this Year of 2018. And so much of the "education" just involves watching the heroine be subjected to various forms of abuse and mind wtf-ery. *vomit*

I couldn't get past the first episode of Boys over Flowers for that exact reason. Oh, and perhaps my inbuilt antipathy towards abusive rich folk. Yuck.

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I think and I should be the last to the My Ahjussi party. HOW IS THIS SO INCREDIBLY GOOD?? I DON'T WANT IT TO END- PLEASE SEND HELP

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Soompi has a nice thread on My Ajusshi. The girls over there are wild!!!😂😂😂😂😂

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Yes, join the party that won't end over at Soompi. And fan site, can't forget fan site: https://givemeslippers.wordpress.com/

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Dramas
* Dear my friends E8-16 : A gem about life, Kamsahamnida for all Dear my friends 😌
* To.Jenny E1 : I loved it, hoping ep2 will be nice as well, I have the tiramisu cake song stuck in my head x)
* House helper : I'm behind, I was having too much fun with the hijacked lyrics posts x)

K-shows
*1n2d E223 : 2018 Land, Sea & Air Olympics = hilarious ep
Land MVP Mr. Sly: his devious strategy worked x)
Sea MVP Kim JongMin: he jumped and overcame his fear *proud*
Can’t wait for next week with Air part which is on another level O_o

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Miss Hammurabi: Episode 14 was such an emotionally difficult episode to watch. I had to pause and look away at times. It's true that the cases are built on testimony and collected evidence which may not always be objective or complete and that judges are not omniscient. That is a very scary thought. It is a juxtaposition of having a lot of power and not really having any power. It was hard watching OR so devastated and spiralling and questioning everything. Given that part of the harsh treatment OR receives is heavily backed by misogyny, this episode was interestingly timed with what has been going in South Korea this year regarding their version of the #metoo movement and that high profile suicide of an accused sexual predator this week.

What's Wrong with Secretary Kim: I love the reveal of YJ's memories (though they were traumatic memories) and how he helped MS all those years. I replayed the scenes of YJ+MS's early boss-secretary partnership several times. I think the drama doled out the truth just in time since I was feeling impatient with the kidnapping drama. Yang Cheol and that cola confession. Lol and awwwww! And whoa that kiss between the OTP. *fans self*

Big Boss (up to season 2, ep 10): I ended up binging it. I've fallen in love with this c-drama comedy on high school life and friendship featuring a totally incorrigeable heroine and her group of high school friends/classmates. I love how her wild imagination gives all the characters chances to get into a variety of costumes (soldiers, wuxia video games, qing dynasty, republican era). This drama is based on a manhua, but unfortunately I can't find a copy of it.

The Eternal Love (up to ep 10...): C-drama. I'm not into "heroine suddenly time travels to the past and falls in love with dude" stories (all I can think abt is the lack of modern toilets and medicine...), but so far, this one is a pretty cute, well-paced drama. I have some strong negative opinions about some of the heroine's decisions, but hers is a case where I find her likable enough that I can overlook those decisions. The hero is interesting and looks ridiculously handsome with the long hair and robes.

Paused for this week: Legend of Fuyao, Legend of Yunxi.

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AYHT: Nam Shin III and So Bong are such cuties. ❤️ I'm enjoying the series a lot and now it seems that the action will pick up in next episodes. I don't know if I can handle two Seo Kang Joons in a drama (can you get intoxication from too much eye-candy 🍭 exposure?), but I will do my best and watch 😄
Ms. Hammurabi. I'm liking it a lot but it is to dense for binge-watching for me, so I'm a bit behind. Anyway I love how they tackle social issues, and the romance is subtle but very cute. I loved the bit about the perfume gift and how he didn't notice at the beginning that she was using it because he had a cold...haha! Myungsoo as the shy judge is adorable.

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Mr. Sunshine:

Like I have said before: I really, truly hope this drama is not only trying to be amazing but that it will be the great masterpiece of writer-nim Kim Eun Sook.
I want to believe it, although, coming from the creator of Goblin, Descendants of the Sun, The Heirs, Secret Garden, I cannot be so sure😒. The heirs was particularly awful and nonsensical (and that from only scamming through the recaps🙄)!!!!
I have heard DOTS and Goblin were kind of meh at the end, and Secret garden was kind of a mess, wasn't it??? 😂😂😂😂
But since the cinematography is so beautiful, I will give it a try... And also, oh my! I love Kim Tae ri's character... I hope she remains herself until the end. And I am really curious whether she will also fall for Eugene...🙄

WWWSK

I have been kind of mocking the kidnapping subplot, and I still believe Mi so made a big deal out of it, for she could have not remember so much, but for yoon young, wow... it was a big deal! I am surprised he became so normal after all he has been going through. Not only the kidnapping and seing a woman kill herself but all this years carrying with the trauma alone and pretending he didn't remember. It is absolutely harmful to a person to act like that. That silence must have been psychologically killing for him. Poor guy. Honestly.
But I am happy there seems to be nothing to hinder our OTP's puppy love for each other, and it is so cute I am afraid the writer will add some kind of stupidity in the next episodes in order to create a climax we don't need and ruin the drama.😒😖😒😒
I agree that to have only fluffy scenes with so much love, it can be boring or simply too much sugary stuffed for me, but really... a needles separation it will make me angry.

Let's see what it comes, because plotwise this drama is very weak.

House helper

This show is kinda weird, but interesting and warm. It is also shallow and deep at the same time... I don't know yet how to judge it. I like him, maybe for the first time I like Ha seok jin in a role... I think the girls are silly, but they don't annoy me. And the rest is still unknown.
For now, it is a drama I can watch slow and even fast forward some parts... 😁😂😁

Love O2O
Not this week but last week I kind of binge this show because I was curious, and hey!!! I can't believe I fell so much in love with it! Gorgeous, simple and full of healthy good looking young people! Very lovely, cute and funny. I loved it. I will watch it over. 😍😍😍😍 very very beautiful indeed.
No misunderstandings, no noble idiocy, no much of silly and jealous second leads, at least no to the point they can harm out OTP.
And this is what I liked the most. The otp commitment and trust, which many korean dramas could take as an example, by the way...
Full recommended! 😊

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I forgot to mention I have been watching Another Oh hae young, because I promised @swunnie I would watch. And yes, I like many things in this drama, mostly Kim Mi Kyun, the cinematography and many of the secondary characters, but there is no way I can like Eric Mun. Everybody saying the guy is gorgeous but just like Hyun bin... I cannot see it!!! Maybe because these guys looks are not my type??
I recognize I like pretty faces, I am more for those who always smile and look cute even if they are angry: Park hyun sik, Yoo Seung-ho, Lee Jong suk and Jung Hae in... I know, I am their noona, but I can't help it.
Anyway... Oh hae young... watching slowly.
The humor is rather very good. The crazy sister speaking French!!! 😂😂😂😂 I bet she will end with the lawyer. Please, nobody tell me! 😂😂😂

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“But I am happy there seems to be nothing to hinder our OTP's puppy love for each other, and it is so cute I am afraid the writer will add some kind of stupidity in the next episodes in order to create a climax we don't need and ruin the drama.“

That’s exactly why I like this particularly pleasant rom-com. The drama(or trauma) that the OTP experience did not make them misunderstand each other and did not make them grow apart. We see them grow more understanding of one another, more loving, more caring.... and nobody is sabotaging their relationship, thank goodness.

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Until now, yes. And I like that as well, but then again. There are 4 episodes left and I am nervous about what could they do in order to create tension and excitement to the story. I didn't read the webtoon, so... I really don't know what to expect 😒🤔😐

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Mr Sunshine: I feel like Kim Eun Sook's strength as a writer is her witty lines and funny conversations, which is lacking so much in this show. Everything else is pretty much hit or miss for me. DOTS and Goblin had their moments, but as of now, this show hasn't found its own moment yet.

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It is barely starting. It is ok to give it time to build up

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Since I survived a lot, this is what i was watching to help my survival:
Why secretary Kim: Cute and Fluff, its rare that I like rom com these days but I think its Park Seo Joon's charm here, else everything is so predictable.
Come and Hug Me The darkness shocked me but I finally understood why our serial killer father wants to kill Nak-won and why he has a hit list.
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And Maybe Lee Tae Hwan wants to learn how to cry from Jang Ki Yong. (No not from Park seo joon, he covers his face with hands)
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Are You Human too? Well, I am slowing catching up to Robo Shin. Only here was Seo Kang Joon.
To.Jenny Cute and I love the lyrics of the songs. If somebody knows the song in opening of Ep1, please tell me, I want to know all the lyrics.
I can Speak An awesome movie, its really good.

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Re: To. Jenny opening's song is Jang Kiha & The Faces - Kieuk(ㅋ)

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Great! Thanks a lot!! :)

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Are You Human Too?: I was honestly surprised at some of the twists we got and I love that our robot protagonist is standing up for himself and what he wants. I just wish Sobong had more to do.

Life on Mars: AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

Come and Hug Me: Finally binged through this and it's not quite as good as I was expecting, tbh, but I had pretty high expectations. I think the story and characters are great but the execution/pacing is a little too slow for me. But the best thing about the show is how openly the characters communicate with one another, and there are in-character reasons when they don't. Big bro Hyun Moo has totally stolen my heart and as long as he doesn't die I'll be happy.

Mr. Sunshine: I want to like this more than I do. It feels a bit disorganized and the storylines are really scattered at the moment. I don't really care for either Eugene or Ae Shin (though their class divide and Eugene's conflicted feelings regarding Joseon are very appealing) and at this point, I'm just waiting for an actual story to happen.

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Slow week. It's too hot outside and it makes me kind of grumpy.

AYHT: ShinnaBong interactions are the sweetest thing ever; who could say no to a guy whose should-you-miss-me alter-ego is a moony-eyed I-love-you-ing cutie? Through some bromance in the mix and I am 100% sold. With the Grandpa-the-master-puppeteer reveal and BioShin waking up I'm really curious what next week will bring.

WWWSK: the drama has reached the point in the story where I had dropped reading the manhwa and I feel very limited motivation to continue. The most emotion that the latest episodes elicited was anger at the I-am-the-victim-til-the-bitter-end mentality of the (still badly acted) Turd. The problem that I am having is that the characters feel like manhwa characters rather than people so I've lost the emotional connection with the material.

Humans: I wanted to give it a go since people recommended it as a more interesting take on AI-self-awareness, but gave up 2eps in. While it has somewhat interesting things to say about the relationship of humans to technology (o dear, the dreaded singularity) and the use of technology as a way to limit the free will of humans, the AI aspect of it was kind of meh - both technically and philosophically. Admittedly it is a very long series and it may get more interesting on the way but I don't have the patience for it at the moment.

Lastly, I accidentally watched a video of Seo Kang-Joo's band singing and got a weird reaction. First Turd was there and my displeasure at seeing his face there suggests that I won't be able to watch anything with LTH in it for a very long time.

The other weird thing was seeing SKJ and immediately wondering how did robocutie end up in here. I am having a reverse uncanny-valley effect where I 100% buy him as a robot but feel strange thinking of him as a human. His-face-is-too-symmetric-to-be-real kind of feel. Casting him in AYHT was kind of genius...

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I'm also having "reverse uncanny-valley effect" LOL. It will be interesting to see what Seo Kang Joon brings to the table in portraying human Nam Shin. Is it almost Monday?

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Re Humans, that's a shame. I absolutely loved it. Season 3 has just finished and it was fantastic. What I find about Asian shows on AI is that a robot is introduced as a one-off and then one or two humans have to deal with whether or not he or she is 'alive' or 'sentient' or 'has emotions'. It then becomes about individuals rather than about society and they tend to leap over the pesky 'hows' or even the pesky 'whats'.

Someone declares the robot alive and we just accept it.

But in reality, robots are introduced into society as tools en-masse and people get habituated to them as tools. If they then gain self-awareness, even personhood, then how do we react to that?

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I agree that the setup is the most relevant for discussing the future of AI. It's just that I did not like the execution.

As the title warns, the focus is very much on the humans. How to we feel if our place is taken by automated systems better than ourselves? Not only at work, but at home as well... Who are we once we're delegated what used to be most of our life to technology? Those are interesting questions to ask, but not quite what I was looking for.

The self-aware robots and the evil scientist chasing them setup is kind of cliche. Also, the robot maintaining self awareness despite a full system wipe rubbed me the wrong way (it had the flavour of the soul-as-separate-from-physical-body irritation you were voicing the other week).

It may also have something to do with the fact that I haven't watched a western series in a while and am no longer used to this style of storytelling; the pacing feels too slow and I did not manage to warm to any of the characters after 2h - which would be the point I'd normally give up on a drama.

Or maybe it's just that I'm growing grumpy and impatient.

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It's funny you should say that because I'm having the same response to kdramas.

The entire setup of AYHT is the same as every other kdrama ever made. It's just that the pure-hearted doppelgänger who's replaced the sleeping prince to keep his place in the kingdom from the scheming Prince Minister with the help of the ordinary woman drawn into their schemes...happens to be a robot.

The entire drama so far would have played out the same way if the pure-hearted doppelgänger had been an ordinary man.

Apart from a few references to the Uncanny Valley, the lead's robot nature could easily have been replaced with 'virtuous peasant' and everyone would have responded the same way.

So it's okay - i'm grumpy and impatient too.

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Also, the robot maintaining self awareness despite a full system wipe rubbed me the wrong way (it had the flavour of the soul-as-separate-from-physical-body irritation you were voicing the other week).

It's been a looong time since I watched season 1, although IMDB assures me it's only three years.

My interpretation of this scene was that it was evidence the corporation producing them didn't really understand the technology. Like me wiping my hard drive and assuming the data is all gone but it isn't really. They'd commodified is work without really understanding it.

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This past week has just be good.

Wok of Love: Practically made me wish I was in a relationship. The way they portray their relationship, I think it is typical. Whenever they are together, am full of smile. I hate Sae Woo's mum for crying out loud. Money isn't the ultimate.

Are u Human: OMG. It is just so good. Nam Shim 3 smile is beautiful. Am happy he decided to do things his own way without his mom pressuring him. I also like the fact that he is evolving. The highlight for me was when he went and confronted Ye Na's dad. He was badass.

I dropped About Time: At first the drama was looking promising but it just fell down the drain. I managed to watch it and I lost interest. Also with Rich Man. I guess I was bored that was why I watched it.

What is Wrong with Secretary Kim: made me emotional. The parents didn't handle the issue very well. They practically ignored the child who was traumatised. I also cried when Park See Joon cried.

Also watching Your House Helper: My question is, is that how they treat interns? She was practically in pains but no one paid attention. Also, I liked it how the friends forgave each other.

Couldn't watch 2Days 1Night because it wasn't posted on the app I watch it. Hopefully, I will binge watch it when it is released.

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(Typed on my phone. Prepare for typos galore and please find it in your hearts to forgive me.)

Greasy Melo: Have I given up on this? I don't know if I can deal with characters acting weird and contrary right now. Can something just make a giant compilation of all the cooking related scenes in this show? Please and thank you.

Handsome Guy and Jung-eum: So I've decided the reason this show isn't better is because I just don't give a damn about any character other than Hoon-nam. Still cute, though.

Come Here and Hug Me: A few years ago, I couldn't understand why one would mark any show that wasn't perfectly perfect as a favourite, but I'm far more enlightened these days. This drama is so good. So good.

Mr Sunshine: This is pretty cool.

Radio Romance: I'm late in watching this one, but once I pretend Kim So-hyun looks ten years older and I don't hate her hair, it's pleasant and enjoyable. I love the radio focus, it's so healing.

Sachiiro no One Room: Hahaha, what?! What is this? "Stockholm Syndrome: The Romance"? Why is this so good???

Good Doctor: So I sampled the first episodes of the Korean and the new Japanese version, and the latter wins by miles. The biggest thing about Japanese drama is that it's never bloated. It filtered out all the unnecessary details and kept everything that makes this good. I love it, and I'm going to keep watching.

Hana Nochi Hare: Once the subbers decide to get in gear, I promise we'll meet again. *longing look*

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I appreciate the Japanese non filler approach . It would be great if the K industry pared their episode counts.
The casting of Evil Ex’s/Mean Girl/ Bad Bastards would plummet as dramas will no longer have episodes to waste on their attempts to disrupt the OTP’s.

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Squeed and gasped through Are Your Human Too along with my fellow Beanies. It inspired me to learn more about gendered AI and why we need more female roboticists. (Also got a history lesson about “Bitching Betty.”)

I'm enjoying Legend of Fuyao to bits. It’s got more humor than I’d expect with a wuxia and everything’s working: the OTP, action, costumes, supporting actors. I’m not even fast-forwarding through the political intrigues!

Handsome Guy and Jeung-eum/The Undateables was amusing and I laughed throughout. (Two words: armpit hair.) This is a mediocre show with good actors and I’m watching it because the leads have managed to create a tender love story in spite of the lame script. Recent episodes have revealed that Hoon-nam remembers every encounter with grown-up Jeung-eum. It’s shocking to think he may have even tussled with Jeung-eum’s callous ex that horrible day at the airport. I’m looking forward to the last episodes next week. Hope the actors get a better show next time.

In search of something romantic and goofy, I enjoyed the 2018 Chinese film How Long Will I Love U. Our star-crossed lovers live in the same shitty apartment—19 years apart. In 1999, the man, 24-year-old Lu Ming (played by 33-yr-old Lei Jiayin), is a frustrated architect/property designer. In 2018, Gu Xiaojiao (played by 30-yr old Tong Liya) is a 31-year-old woman anxious to marry well and reclaim the wealth she once knew as a child. A scientific experiment connects their two timelines together, literally pushing our two lonely protagonists’ apartments together. The first part of the film had me cackling—it’s light and a pleasant way to pass the time.

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That film sounds awesome!

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Missed life on mars this week. Ended up rewatching earlier episodes. I like LOM so much, its such a gem of a drama. The only one in the current batch of dramas that i'm interested in. I

I'm quite intertested to watch my house helper, i want it to be a motivation to clean my house haha. Plus i find bona cute in girls generation 1979. She acts naturally in my opinion :)

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All the Beanie love for Life on Mars makes me want to see it too!

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Give it a try. It's mostly a police and crime drama with a time jump. But the characters are well thought off and feel like real people. Up until ep 9, my fave is ep 7, the hostage case as it was based on a true event. Plus, the acting is top notch, from the main characters, the side characters and even the kids. Child han tae joo is such a cutie hehe

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What the...even hating the cliche childhood connection/tragic family history/past drama subplots, this one was done so well in Sec. Kim that idk how its possible to NOT get invested! It was beautifully acted, weaved, and directed that idk how anyone can not be deeply moved...and I score high on psychopathy I should know. Unless...unless ya’ll have watched too many dramas. Go take a break guys! I love y’all so I’m sincerely concerned with this apathy...

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Totes gutted 'To Jenny' is 2 episodes. The songs are fab and beobja too >.<

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