Suits: Episode 6
by LollyPip
As Kang-seok and Yeon-woo prepare to face down their toughest foes to date, they’re going to have to be flexible and see the situation from all angles. It’s not enough to win at all costs, because that attitude can lead to a lot of damage. Failure is often the best teacher, and both Kang-seok and Yeon-woo are about to learn that sometimes, in order to win, first you have to lose.
EPISODE 6: “They drink the same water, but cows make milk, whereas snakes make poison.”
Kang-seok takes David Kim, the opposing lawyer in the Noxi Chemicals case, to a baseball diamond. He makes David an offer: agree to repair the sewage disposal system at the factory, establish a foundation for the community, and pay each claimant one billion won (about a million USD).
Smirking, David asks what Kang-seok would choose as he picks up the bat. Kang-seok says he would have taken the offer and left, and he asks if their positions were reversed, what kind of ball David would pitch. David just says he’d throw the best ball he’s ever thrown.
Kang-seok winds up for the pitch…
Having been tricked by Lawyer Seo, Yeon-woo listens as he outlines the case — his client had some drinks with friends, where they joked as friends will do. A video of her went viral without her consent, which makes her a victim, but instead she lost her job.
Yeon-woo is dazed when Ha-yeon, playing judge, calls on him to make his statement. He scans his brilliant memory for ideas, and he finds a case in which an agreed-upon settlement was rejected so the lawyers were given more time to prepare for trial. Ha-yeon grants the extra time — ten minutes.
Yeon-woo runs into Ji-na outside, who asks if he’s angry. He says he’s mad at himself because he may have to give up. Lawyer Seo interrupts them, reminding Yeon-woo that it’s illegal to talk to his client (the part Ji-na is playing).
Yeon-woo asks if Lawyer Seo should be treating his hoobae like this, then sighs that it’s what he expects from someone who plays dirty. Lawyer Seo sneers that there’s no such thing as playing dirty in a trial, and that he has other ways of winning.
Instead of pitching the ball to David, Kang-seok lets it drop from his hand. He says that he just realized that David can never be like him, so he has no reason to pitch his life away. David compliments Kang-seok’s creative ways of accepting defeat.
He turns to put the bat away, and feels the ball ricochet off his back. Kang-seok warns that this will be the last night David sleeps well.
Back at the mock trial, Yeon-woo requests to file a counteraction on behalf of the (imaginary) news anchor that Lawyer Seo’s client offended in the viral video. Lawyer Seo objects that the mocking from his client wasn’t malicious enough to be insulting, and Yeon-woo challenges him to prove it.
It’s a brilliant move, because the exact nature of the slander was never described, since the mock suit is between the client and the station that fired her. Looking impressed, Ha-yeon permits the counteraction. She announces that this case now regards violation of personal rights, and that the plaintiff and defendant are switched.
She evidently planned for this possibility, and hands out new evidence to Lawyer Seo and Yeon-woo. She tells Yeon-woo that this was a good move, but that if he’d planned this from the beginning, he wouldn’t have been cornered to begin with.
Back at his desk, Yeon-woo watches as Ji-na goes out with her teammates. She turns back, but he’s gotten a text from Se-hee and is on his way out.
When he sees Se-hee smiling at her job, he says that she looks like she’s found an answer to her question (of what her purpose is). She says that she just knows it’s sad to stay depressed about the past, and that she likes being a dog groomer, but it feels good when people mistake her for a veterinarian.
She asks Yeon-woo about his day, and he says haltingly that he wonders if he deserves the title of Attorney Go. Se-hee tells him that he took the first step when he decided not to go back to his old life. Yeon-woo stops and confesses that he’s not a real attorney, but Se-hee doesn’t look surprised.
The following morning, Yeon-woo tells Kang-seok that Lawyer Seo betrayed him, but Kang-seok says that he should have been prepared for all variables, because this could have been a real trial. He tells Yeon-woo that the mock trial is for the firm to decide whether to keep him, and that in court, he’s either a winner or a loser.
With a sigh, Yeon-woo says he’s right, though he feels like he’s walking the path of a loser. Kang-seok snaps that a winner would be finding a solution, not making excuses.
He redirects to ask if Yeon-woo has researched the medical histories of the Yumi Pharmaceuticals plaintiffs, and when Yeon-woo says he’s doing a thorough investigation, Kang-seok says, “No, you’re standing right there.” He cocks an eyebrow, and Yeon-woo gets the hint and scurries out of the room.
Geun-shik talks to Lawyer Seo, who was supposed to be his ace against Yeon-woo and Kang-seok in the mock trial. Lawyer Seo apologizes for letting Geun-shik down and promises to destroy Yeon-woo.
As he’s looking into the Yumi Pharmaceuticals plaintiffs, Yeon-woo finds a petition to another law firm that startles him. Meanwhile, Kang-seok meets with Director Jeon, who shows him video of a man whose Lou Gehrig’s Disease had taken his ability to move or speak. Eighteen months after starting on their medication, he was moving and speaking freely again.
Kang-seok asks if it’s true that in the three years of clinical testing, not one patient suffered liver problems. Director Jeon offers to show him the medical records, and Yeon-woo bursts in to ask why they won’t show their financial statements. She asks what the financial records have to do with the clinical test records.
Yeon-woo states that clinical trials are the most important part of developing a new drug, because once it’s approved, the company’s stock price increases. Director Jeon confirms that that happened, but she insists that CEO Kim didn’t try to benefit from that.
Kang-seok breaks in to say that Director Jeon, who’s dating CEO Kim, didn’t want his ex-wife, to take this case. He tells her that she should have put the past in the past if she really cared for CEO Kim, and she reluctantly agrees.
She begins to say something else about CEO Kim, but hesitates. Yeon-woo shows Kang-seok something, which sends him to confront Attorney Jang, who represents the plaintiffs, in front of a judge. Apparently, Attorney Jang has filed suits against five different pharmaceutical companies for side effect issues.
One plaintiff in the Yumi Pharmaceutical case was also on the list of plaintiffs against another company for their Alzheimer’s drug. Kang-seok asks for dismissal of the case against Yumi Pharmaceuticals, and for Attorney Jang to be punished.
Attorney Jang hands the judge a financial statement showing that Yumi Pharmaceuticals was nearly bankrupt when the Lou Gehrig’s medication went on the market. In his opinion, it proves they had motive for forging the clinical trial results. The judge decides that both attorneys are making assumptions and refuses to dismiss the case.
Ha-yeon is waiting for Kang-seok in the car. Kang-seok is annoyed that he has to pretend that CEO Kim is a decent man just because Ha-yeon insists it’s so, and asks shy she believes he’s not the type to play with lives.
She tells him that when CEO Kim was working as a chief surgeon, a colleague of his committed malpractice. The issue was a medical grey area, but CEO Kim stubbornly insisted that a doctor must take responsibility no matter how mall the mistake and quit his job.
Kang-seok mutters darkly, “Because he could always get a job in a pharmaceutical company.” But Ha-yeon retorts, “No, he was unemployed for two years. Just like you. There’s one thing you both have in common — you would never lie to me.” Kang-seok says that there’s actually a lot she doesn’t know about both of them.
She changes the subject to say she’ll fund the settlement in the Noxi Chemicals case, but that Kang-seok’s shares contract will be used as collateral. He says he’s more worried about the file he hands over, which contains pictures of CEO Kim and Director Jeon looking very much in love.
Ha-yeon is upset that he did a background check, but Kang-seok asserts unhappily that it’s his job. Ha-yeon confesses that she knew they were seeing each other while she and CEO Kim were still married. She regrets giving Kang-seok this case and takes it back, instructing him to focus on winning the Noxi Chemicals case.
She goes to see CEO Kim, who continues to insist that he would never alter clinical test results just because the company was in financial trouble. He asks Ha-yeon to trust him, but she says that she only trusts documents and evidence.
She hands him the file, reminding him that she once asked him if he was seeing someone else and he told her no. She asks him to be honest now, but CEO Kim still swears he never forged anything. Ha-yeon warns that if he’s lying, he’ll be embarrassed by his own lawyer in court.
David visits Kang-seok to gloat that seventeen of the twenty plaintiffs in the Noxi case have agreed to his settlement, which means he’s won. Kang-seok informs David that as of now, all twenty plaintiffs have refused his offer in favor of the one Kang-seok’s paying them.
David asks if the partners are angry that they paid off its own plaintiffs with firm money. Yeon-woo pipes up that actually, it was Ha-yeon’s personal money. David calls them desperate, but Kang-seok says that they’re considering this a pro bono case.
David warns in English, “Listen to me, stupid. Once I’m in that ring, you’re not going to see some gentleman sweep by me. I’ll have every single one of them bleed their bodies dry and get tossed out on the stretchers. You got that?”
Kang-seok replies that David won’t even get into the ring, showing him the recording of the call between him and the factory manager at Noxi Chemicals. On that recording, David ordered Lee Jin-seok threatened, even specifying who should do it and how. He offers to let David hear it, holding out a tablet with the recording queued up.
When David doesn’t hit “play,” Kang-seok asks if he’s scared to hit the ball. He moves to play it himself, but David grabs his wrist and says that it’s illegal wiretapping, so it can’t be used against him in court. Kang-seok claims that he was given the recording anonymously, so his evidence report states that he doesn’t know whether it was recorded illegally.
David accuses Kang-seok of needing to use an illegal recording just to beat him, but Kang-seok concedes that if this is a fight, he lost. He tells David that he can feel as victorious as he wants so long as he signs Kang-seok’s settlement agreement, otherwise he can go to jail.
When David asks if Kang-seok would sign if he were him, Kang-seok says that if he were him, he wouldn’t do illegal things just to win. He states that this case is making him emotional and sincere, because as soon as he heard that recording, he wanted to put David in prison.
Yeon-woo silently hands David a pen as Kang-seok says that just because they drink the same water doesn’t mean they’re similar: “Although they drink the same water, cows make milk, whereas snakes make poison.” David signs, though he says they’ll meet again, and Kang-seok will taste his venom then.
After he’s gone, Kang-seok admits to Yeon-woo that he really was emotional, because he was method acting, ha. Yeon-woo asks if he would have turned in the recording as evidence, but Kang-seok says he doesn’t do stupid things or pull dirty tricks in court. He says that David signed because he knew what was on the recording, so curious Yeon-woo plays it.
LOL, it’s a recording of Yeon-woo getting blindsided by Lawyer Seo at the mock trial. Kang-seok smirks, “See? I don’t do dumb things in court, like you.” Yeon-woo just marvels at his deviousness.
Ha-yeon calls Kang-seok to meet her at a bar. She says that she heard about the Noxi Chemicals case, confirming that he’s the best closer there is. Kang-seok can tell something is off, and she confesses that she let her emotions blind her to the truth.
Ha-yeon says that CEO Kim still claims he didn’t forge the trial results, so Kang-seok asks why she’s upset. She says, “He couldn’t afford to do something like that, because he needed that drug more than anyone. He’s dying. He has Lou Gehrig’s Disease.” Oh no, I was afraid of that.
While walking Se-hee home again, Yeon-woo says that he feels better after telling her the truth. Se-hee says that he made a decision not to go back, so he’ll find a way — she’s just glad he was honest with her.
Yeon-woo says that everyone has a rabbit they want to hide, recalling Ji-na’s story about the rabbit that hides on the far side of the moon. Yeon-woo begins to say something else, but we don’t hear what he tells Se-hee.
He’s surprised the next morning to hear that CEO Kim has Lou Gehrig’s Disease. Kang-seok is sure that Director Jeon knows, reminding Yeon-woo that she said CEO Kim is a victim. They bring her in, and Kang-seok asks when she became aware of CEO Kim’s illness. She says that he didn’t tell her until he could no longer hide his symptoms, but she still claims that he didn’t alter the trial results.
Kang-seok says this isn’t about blame, but she grows agitated and repeats that he didn’t forge the results. Yeon-woo says that they know she’s the one who lied, and that if she wants to protect CEO Kim, she needs to tell the truth.
Director Jeon begins to cry and says that CEO Kim decided to test the new drug on himself and improved, but at the end of the clinical test, one patient started having liver problems. It could have delayed or even prevented the drug’s acceptance, so she excluded that patient from the clinical trial.
They report this to Ha-yeon and CEO Kim. Kang-seok advises that Director Jeon hire a lawyer, since they can’t defend her. Ha-yeon says that they can, but only if CEO Kim dissolves his company and give the plaintiffs as much settlement as he can afford. Then he can list himself as a victim and also receive a settlement, which he can use to start a new company.
He refuses, saying that he can’t do that because he didn’t suffer any side effects. But Ha-yeon disagrees — he’s no different than the other victims because they all have the same illness. Having been listening closely, Yeon-woo bursts in with a revelation.
They call in Attorney Jang and the plaintiffs to say that they’ve come up with their final decision — to admit fault and apologize. Confused, having thought they were here to come to a settlement, Attorney Jang asks what this is about.
They play a video of CEO Kim in the throes of his worst symptoms, then he addresses the plaintiffs. He says that it’s unfair that they have Lou Gehrig’s Disease and now suffer from side effects of the medication, while that same medication made him better.
He adds that he truly didn’t know about the side effects, but now that he does, he wants to keep researching the drug until he eliminates the side effects. Ha-yeon tells them that if he bankrupts his company to give them settlements, he won’t be able to keep studying the medicine.
Kang-seok says that their offer is not to give the plaintiffs money now, but ownership shares in Yumi Pharmaceuticals so that CEO Kim can keep working and perfect the medication. Ha-yeon adds that money won’t extend their lives, but the medication will, and she begs them to help CEO Kim. Seeing the wisdom in this, the plaintiffs nod.
Later, Kang-seok visits Attorney Jang’s office to inform him that he’ll be disbarred soon. Attorney Jang spits that Kang-seok is no better than him, with his fancy suit and fancier car. Kang-seok grins that he’s fairly compensated for representing clients who trust him, while Attorney Jang fabricates crimes that don’t exist. He starts,” We may drink the same water… no. You aren’t a cow or a snake. You don’t have the right to drink water at all.”
Lee Jin-seok thanks Kang-seok for his help, but he says he was just doing his job. After Jin-seok leaves, Ha-yeon asks what Kang-seok meant when he said it was because of him and not David. He admits that he got angry for the first time in ages, and Ha-yeon agrees that they were both unprofessional.
Se-hee shows up at the firm to be Yeon-woo’s mock trial witness. She worries that she’ll forget what to say and make him look bad, but he assures her she’s just nervous. When she goes to get water, Ji-na follows her to the break room. Lawyer Seo asks Yeon-woo if Se-hee is his girlfriend, interested in being set up with her if she’s not. This weasel, seriously?
From the doorway, Kang-seok and Geun-shik watch their proteges. Geun-shik says that Lawyer Seo is good, though not on their level, and Kang-seok is all, “Since when were we on the same level?” HAHA.
He asks Yeon-woo if he’s okay with the mock trial coming up. Yeon-woo is surprised after all the times he’s been told not to mention it, but he jumps on the chance to get Kang-seok’s advice. Kang-seok says that Lawyer Seo is conceited, so Yeon-woo needs to go after the person, not the case.
He says this is Yeon-woo’s first fight, so he has to win no matter what. He leaves with one last bit of friendly advice: “Destroy him.”
In the break room, Ji-na asks if Se-hee is here for the trail. Se-hee admits that she’s worried she’ll make Yeon-woo look bad, and she’s confused when Ji-na says they’ll have a happy ending.
The trail resumes with Yeon-woo now representing the plaintiff, Da-ham, who claims to have been damaged by the mocking of a coworker going viral. Representing the defendant, Ji-na, Lawyer Seo states that Ji-na was only joking.
He says that the video was made by spycam, but Yeon-woo points out that Ji-na knew it was there because she winked at the camera. He calls on Da-ham, who hams it up as she wipes away dramatic tears and sniffles that she’s worked hard to become the station’s main anchor and gain the trust of the entire nation (LOL, Ha-yeon is trying so hard not to laugh).
Da-ham continues that because she gave Ji-na advice, she became the laughing stock of the nation when Ji-na’s cruelly impersonated her, and that she even had to break up with her fiance. Lawyer Seo objects on the grounds that her relationship has nothing to do with this case. Da-ham wails that it’s not easy to get married, making the whole room giggle at her histrionics.
It’s Se-hee’s turn to be questioned — she’s playing a morning newscaster at the TV station. She says that the video was taken at a get-together to congratulate her for landing the morning news position, so she was also there when Ji-na made fun of Da-ham. She says it made her feel uncomfortable, and that in her opinion, the Ji-na did it because Da-ham recommended Se-hee for the job and not herself.
Lawyer Seo asks if Ji-na ever told Se-hee that she was unhappy, and she admits she didn’t. He says she doesn’t know how Ji-na felt, but Se-hee blurts out earnestly, “Doesn’t everyone have a rabbit in their hearts? A rabbit that lives on the dark side of the moon so others can’t see it’s there, like a secret.”
Ji-na, recognizing her own words, glares at Yeon-woo, and he looks like he’d love to dive under the table.
Se-hee says that Ji-na (the character) has many secrets, but she can’t hide her feelings well. Lawyer Seo asks her what he’s feeling right now, and when Yeon-woo objects, Lawyer Seo says that Se-hee can’t read minds and doesn’t know how it feels to be mocked and unfairly fired.
In his office, Kang-seok listens to the recording of David’s phone call. David tells the manager that they must instill fear in Lee Jin-seok, but since he’s a strong person, they have to strike at him in front of his weakness — his daughter. He snarls that you can tolerate rats nibbling at cheese, but when they want the whole block, “You extinguish them, with a bullet in the heart or an ax in the head.”
Back at the mock trial, Ji-na is questioned. She says she was just having fun with friends, and that she wasn’t upset about being passed over for the promotion because she expected Se-hee to get it. She improvises that if there was a video for every time a hoobae mocked their sunbae, the internet would be flooded with videos of Da-ham. Oh, snap.
Yeon-woo asks about her claim that she wasn’t angry, and Ji-na says that she and Da-ham were close friends so she had hope, but she didn’t really expect the job. He asks if she made some did something to Da-ham, and she replies that in fact, it’s Da-ham who’s been telling people her secrets.
He asks what she means by secrets, and she barks, “The rabbit.” There’s a long silence as she and Yeon-woo stare at each other, and finally Yeon-woo snaps back into character and says that Ji-na’s critical email to her colleagues was sent out of spite. She asks why she’s accused of spite when Da-ham told her secret for fun.
He brings out her mock employee evaluation, which states that she’s anxious when on the air, and can’t handle emergencies. Ji-na disagrees, so Yeon-woo asks if she thinks she has no ability to be a news announcer, since she said she knew she wouldn’t get the job.
Aggressive now, Yeon-woo asks why she never looked within herself for the reason she wasn’t promoted, instead of blaming Da-ham. He says that if Ji-na had tried to improve herself instead of making excuses, she might have gotten the job, and concludes that Se-hee spent that time on herself so she earned the job. Oh damn, he’s just attacking every one of Ji-na’s insecurities.
Ji-na fights back tears as Yeon-woo keeps hammering about life being a series of challenges, and that people don’t fail because of stage fright. She interrupts to yell that she’s as capable as anyone, and Yeon-woo suddenly realizes what he’s done by using her fear against her. Ji-na gasps that she’s afraid, no longer in character, and Yeon-woo excuses himself.
He pulls Lawyer Seo aside and asks for a settlement. Lawyer Seo says he has no reason to settle, since nothing Ji-na said was crucial testimony. He wants to continue, but Yeon-woo looks at Ji-na and says he doesn’t.
Ha-yeon declares Lawyer Seo the winner of the mock trial, as Yeon-woo stands looking deeply ashamed and Geun-shik whispers that he’s done for. He turns to see Kang-seok standing in the back of the room, arms crossed and a dark look on his face.
COMMENTS
After this week, I don’t like Ji-na as a person as much as I did before. She jumps to a lot of wrong conclusions, particularly in regards to Yeon-woo, then lashes out without even bothering to find out the truth. It would have been obvious to anyone that he didn’t splash mud on her that first day on purpose, yet she held that against him pretty strongly until he told her the truth. Then she started acting cranky when she decided he’s dating Se-hee with no evidence other than seeing him and Se-hee being friendly together, and joins his opposition just to stick it to him rather than just ask if he’s dating someone.
Then she hears Se-hee repeat her “rabbit in the moon” analogy and jumps to the conclusion that Yeon-woo also told Se-hee her deepest fear, and instead of waiting and, you know, asking, she calls him out right in the middle of the mock trial. Granted, Yeon-woo was pretty awful when he used her weakness against her, but to be fair, Ji-na’s the one who made it personal. I’d like to alter what I said in the last recap — Ji-na is much too volatile and negative, and she doesn’t deserve Yeon-woo’s friendship (much less anything more) until she figures out how to talk to people instead of assuming the worst about them.
To be honest, a lot of the legal happenings that go on in this show confuse me. For example, I have no clue why Ha-yeon and Kang-seok felt it necessary to pay a settlement to their own clients in the Noxi Chemicals case (unless it was to make them refuse David’s offer, which feels unethical). It seems to defeat the purpose of even having a lawsuit if the other side gets off scott-free and your own lawyers give you the settlement money. But I do find the cases that Kang-seok and Yeon-woo work on interesting and engaging because they usually involve human rights, and I particularly loved the creative resolution to the Yumi Pharmaceuticals case. I do wish that David’s vague mentions of a chicken company lawsuit and Kang-seok not knowing what his case was really about had been explained, though — I was expecting something really twisty and surprising, but it just fizzled out.
Seeing the way that Kang-seok and Yeon-woo approach the cases from such different angles is fascinating. Kang-seok is all about the win no matter what, which is his job, but he also seems to have convinced himself that kindness and compassion are never necessary. While Yeon-woo still wants things to be fair and for the “good guys” to win, which is wonderfully idealistic but not very helpful in a courtroom. I’m enjoying the fact that in Kang-seok’s real-life cases and Yeon-woo’s mock trial, they both butted heads with a rival who was willing to fight dirty just to win. They were forced out of their comfort zones, and seeing them squirm was entertaining, even as we know they’re learning some valuable lessons.
Kang-seok always assumes that he’s unique and that nobody is capable of figuring him out, so he can use the same tactics on everyone and still be triumphant. But despite his confidence that he’s the only one of his kind, David Kim kept anticipating his moves because Yeon-woo is correct — he was thinking just like Kang-seok. So Kang-seok was forced to do the opposite of what he’d normally do in order to defeat David, including letting his emotions get involved and admitting defeat. He needed to learn that you can’t just treat every case the same way, but I’m worried that we haven’t seen the last of David. He’s much too devious and invested in winning to stay away for long.
Meanwhile, Yeon-woo believes that everyone is interested in fairness and justice like he is, so he was blindsided when Lawyer Seo didn’t hold his same values and used that fact to gain the upper hand. But Yeon-woo tried to play by Kang-seok’s rules and win no matter what, only for it to backfire on him when he accidentally got carried away and hurt Ji-na. I’m proud of him for not getting caught up in the game and realizing that winning isn’t worth hurting people, but I do hope that this doesn’t backfire again and get him in deep water with Kang-seok.
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1 dian
May 14, 2018 at 9:11 PM
i love how the story going here in episode 6. and yeon woo's decision in the mock trial is heartwarming, like what you said "winning isn't worth hurting people". and i think yeon woo is the winner in this mock trial. i like how yeon woo's work, he did all of kang seok's tasks first, and he did finish it with offering solution too. even he doesn't have time to prepare his mock trial.
i like how kang seok give his support and come silently in yeon woo's mock trial, by asking how yeon woos feeling in front of lawyer seo, even though he did said he doesn't want yeon woo speak about that mock trial in front of him.
there are so many good scene in this ep, and thanks for recapping this great drama
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zitless
May 14, 2018 at 11:54 PM
You're right about that. That 'move aside' he said to lawyer seo was the highlight of the episode for me.
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2 NP
May 14, 2018 at 10:14 PM
Uh-oh, run away puppy Yeon-woo. The look on your master's face isn't looking too happy at the moment. Though I understand why he did it and am actually happy he stopped questioning Ji-na there. Sometimes there's just more value to things/situations/people than to hurting friendships over these type of matters.
I totally agree with everything @lollypip said about Ji-na. It's sad because she was shaping up to be a great friend and ally for Yeon-woo, but she needs to learn not to jump to conclusions and get emotional. And I totally forgot to mention Se-hee in my comment in the last recap, but yeah I agree with everyone's views on how she's kind of sticking to Yeon-woo now that he's in a better place. >_>
My favorite is Da-ham. I love her. She's such a riot.
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NP
May 14, 2018 at 10:14 PM
Sometimes there's more value to losing than winning*.
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blnmom
May 15, 2018 at 7:10 AM
Daham in the mock trial was so funny!
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NP
May 15, 2018 at 1:13 PM
She cracked me up. It kept things from getting too serious.
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3 Jenni
May 14, 2018 at 10:26 PM
I think the character I like most in here is Da-ham. Ji-na disappoint me with how she behave.
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4 PakalanaPikake
May 14, 2018 at 11:44 PM
Thank you for recapping, LollyPip.
I was quite confused by this episode. I thought it was just me, but if you're finding some of the events just plain screwy, then I'm relieved. I thought I was losing my touch. ;-)
Ji-na seems to be going off the rails, and that's too bad. She had been a promising character. Perhaps she is still redeemable, but for now, I'm unhappy with her nasty pettiness. For all I know, there might be a flashback coming up that will help make sense of this week's episodes. But I'm not going to hold my breath.
As for the Yumi Pharmaceuticals class action suit, Kang-seok really did hit David Kim with a baseball?! Is he nuts? That's assault! Does Kang-seok have some kind of professional death wish? Or does he have some kind of admissible proof that Kim sent thugs to intimidate plaintiff Lee Jin-seok in front of his daughter? Sheesh!
With regard to the revelation that Yumi's CEO Kim is in the same boat with the clinical trial subjects because he has ALS (amyotrophic lateral sclerosis aka Lou Gehrig's disease) himself, it surprised me a bit because I thought that his girlfriend, Director Jeon, might have been the one who was ill.
Lawyer Seo is lower than slime mold. Geez, that's an insult to slime molds everywhere. My apologies, guys. I can't get a handle on what he's up to, but it can't be good.
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korfan
May 15, 2018 at 3:58 AM
I think the baseball just zoomed barely past David Kim. I can't say I'm positive about that though because it just went by so fast.
If I understood correctly, the proof that Kim sent the thugs is in the recording Kang-seok has in his possession. However, Kang-seok knows that because it was illegally obtained it can't be used in court. However, he mentioned he wrote in his report of evidence that it was anonymously sent to him therefore he has no way of knowing how it was obtained ..... this would make it admissible. Legal beanies can definitely correct me on this and perhaps expand on this.
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PakalanaPikake
May 15, 2018 at 9:14 AM
Thanks, @korfan.
Now that I think of it, the ball had to have just whooshed past Kim. Otherwise he would have writhed in pain, hollered, and we would have head a thud.
So now Kang-seok is playing as dirty as David Kim is. That's setting an upstanding example for Yeon-woo. I have a feeling that we ain't seen nothing yet when it comes to sliding down the slippery slope.
If Kim plays dirty enough to send thugs to terrorize a plaintiff, I expect that he would target his opponent's protege. Yeon-woo had better watch out. I have a bad feeling about his ending up as collateral damage.
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korfan
May 15, 2018 at 11:04 AM
Perhaps Kang-seok is ok with "bending" the law outside of the courtroom but not while in it. If he's comfortable with pushing the limits of ethical behavior, to the point of getting right on the edge of that boundary, he'd justify things by saying it wasn't done during a trial. ..... He has mentioned once or twice what can be done during a trial and he mentioned something about being within the boundary of a legal framework. So, he seems to be clear about being in the courtroom it's when you're out of it that it's no holds barred for him perhaps. .... Hmm. I wonder if this is why he prefers not to take things to trial?! No restrictions if you don't!
Ooo, David Kim going after Yeon-woo! You're right, he may just do that! That's a possibility I can see happening. Maybe that's how Yeon-woo ends up in jail. We are, after all, watching a long flashback.
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PakalanaPikake
May 15, 2018 at 1:23 PM
@korfan May 15, 2018 at 11:04 AM
Sheesh. Third time's the charm for posting this.
I like your theory of Kang-seok's brinksmanship. And I think you've hit the nail on the head as to his reason for preferring to settle out of court. In the courtroom, he is constrained by the law. Oh, wait, he could be disbarred for doing nasty, illegal, and unethical things outside the courtroom, too.
Kang-seok has just proven that by going after the ambulance-chasing Lawyer Jang from the Yumi Pharmaceutical class-action suit. The guy recycles his plaintiffs. What a stupid move. He looks like the patent trolls who have plagued so many software and computer equipment makers over bogus intellectual property issues that the courts simply don't grok.
Aside: A pox upon the hellspawn who invented the first infernal End User License Agreement that basically stated that the
chumpcustomer who had paid a fortune for software did not actually own it, but was “granted” the right to use it and to make one backup copy. I hated it the first time I read a EULA 30+ years ago, and the jerks are still at it. It was an egregious case of paying a lot of something for a lot of nothing. Everyone was so gung-ho to get their hands on a PC they unwillingly “agreed” to be ripped off forever and ever amen the second they opened the sealed envelope containing the software diskette. The high-tech emperors are still buck-naked.Whew. Where did that come from? I guess SUITS has sold me on the evil of lawyers, as if I needed any convincing. ;-)
/rant off
Yeon-woo in the slammer in the opening was exactly what made me suspect that David Kim may be the one who puts him there. But will Lord Goldfish somehow be involved, too? Is he as capable of brinksmanship as Kang-seok? (Silly question, I know.) He could end up throwing Lawyer Seo (who is now officially David Kim Lite) under the bus just to get at Kang-seok and Yeon-woo.
I'm still wondering why David Kim is in Korea instead of at that hoity-toity New York firm he bragged about. Has he already been canned for unethical behavior? Or might he have been given the option to resign as a form of career seppuku in the US? Maybe his only recourse is to practice law overseas.
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bong-soo
May 15, 2018 at 3:46 PM
Hi @pakalanapikake. We know Kang-seok is a big baseball fan. With that windup (which told me he knows what he is doing) he might of killed David if he hit him intentionally. David had turned his back and was leaning down iirc. He whizzed the ball by him which is still pretty good (and dangerous.) If David had been batting KS might have thrown a brushback pitch. Having gone to Harvard perhaps both those guys became part of Red Sox Nation.
Sidebar. From Jang Dong-gun's Wiki bio:
David Kim brought up boxing and I almost made a boxing comment in the episode 5 recap. I will make a quick one here. What got me thinking about boxing was @lollypip's comment:
Fighters (boxers) hate for a decision to be determined by the 3 judges at ringside, "We go to the judges' score cards.") The fighters want to determine themselves the outcome of the match.I think that fits right in with Kang-seok's philosophy-stay out of court, if you can.
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5 Sam
May 14, 2018 at 11:57 PM
I missed Yeon Woo's grandma, Da Ham and Kang Seok interactions with Yeon Woo and Yeon Woo's bicycle this week. I mean they were there (except for grandma) but it didn't feel that comical, fun and happy with the cases overload. I have no complaints with Se Hee and Yeon Woo just doesn't keep rushing when he's around her. Theirs is a somewhat peaceful relationship (as compared to Ji Na, at least) and although I'm pretty sure that Se Hee is not gonna stick around for any romantic development, can't I just say that she's sweet? She shows more dimension that Ji Na at the moment, although she could never compare with Da Ham Sunbae, which brings me back to the case- the three women's positions/roles were quite similar to their real-life status. Da Ham, the sunbae; Se Hee, the hoobae who got promoted; Ji Na, the hoobae who plays victim at first but really isn't. And amongst all of this, our cute lawyer is stuck- unable to hurt anyone and falling one short of winning. But now, I'm excited to see what wish the Lord of Goldfish will be asking Kang Seok to grant and what repercussions Yeon Woo will face. Waiting for the next! Really hope that the next week makes me happy with cuteness and bromance galore. Waiting, waiting, waiting!
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blubluskye
May 15, 2018 at 5:17 AM
I miss Yeon-woo's granny and Yeon-woo's bicycle. Please make a comeback.
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6 zitless
May 15, 2018 at 12:00 AM
What I am afraid of is the fall out after this. Yeon woo is going to face two people but I am sure Kang Suk's scolding will have more effect because he didn't meet his expectations.
As for Jina she has a lot of growing to do and I will be disappointed if she blames the whole event on yeon woo. The poor boy already has to stretch 24 hrs into 48 don't add another 24 because he has to make it up to you. Please Jina let's be understanding.
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blubluskye
May 15, 2018 at 4:59 AM
The poor boy already has to stretch 24 hrs into 48 don't add another 24 because he has to make it up to you. -- best comment ever.
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7 blubluskye
May 15, 2018 at 5:12 AM
I like the boss-employee relationship between Ha-yeon and Kang-seok, and we all know that it is never easy for a leader to admit his or her mistakes. Yet, Ha-yeon admits her clouded judgement to Kang-seok and the two move on. I like how cool they both are.
I'm getting a bit worried for Yeon-woo, because he's found himself in the limelight of two girls, all of a sudden. Personally I think it's due to the pace of this remake (they have only 16 episodes to capture all that jazz from 7 seasons!) that the romance here isn't as easy to digest. In the original material, because they had time to set the setting, it was easy to read Mike's feelings towards Jenny (Se-hee) in the early episodes. It was also easy to read Mike's flirty cues towards Rachel (Ji-na). And then we see the boy confused, but the viewers certainly wasn't.
I used to think Meghan Markle had a tendency to overreact in the original... but after watching this, I don't think so anymore.
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zitless
May 15, 2018 at 7:18 AM
I know right. Mike had the opportunity to learn and grow from his relationship with jenny. But we might not he getting that here, or the effect will just be as fast as the speed of light.
Yeon woo will just use his relationship with sehee to realize he likes jina. If the progression is natural I think I can handle that.
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immawish
May 15, 2018 at 5:10 PM
Yesh about that Meghan Markle comment tbh. I think I was not impressed on how Rachel acted on season 2 about the recommendation letter and all that, also the Logan Sanders thingy. But after watching this show, dang thank god Meghan did it without making Rachel looked like a total fool.
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8 blnmom
May 15, 2018 at 7:17 AM
I kind of like that Yeonwoo lost the mock trial. I was expecting him to win it last-minute because he's the hero of the show, so it was somewhat of a surprise. I hope Fish Man will make him and Choi do something ridiculous as his wish for our viewing pleasure.
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9 Ashablue
May 15, 2018 at 8:44 AM
It was very telling of PHS character that he stopped the interrogation because he knew that it was emotionally disturbing to Ji Na. I dont think Kang would have cared at all if he was in his place. We'll see how this is going to go, since i dont think they're going to leave this mock trial as it is, or at the very least there will be another showdown with PHS and Lawyer Seo
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10 Rukia wants melona
May 15, 2018 at 10:30 AM
Thank you, @lollypip!
Yay! Finally got caught up on this show so I could read the recaps...
Ji-na is disappointing, why is she acting so insecure if she likes Yeon-woo? What's so hard about talking with him and verifying things, you know, like she would do for her job?
At first I thought that Se-hee was a bit opportunistic for asking Ji-na about Yeon-woo. But with Ji-na acting the way she is, I find Se-hee rather sweet
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zitless
May 15, 2018 at 1:29 PM
If you are talking about approaching her at the lobby first, I would do the same thing because she is a familiar face even though it's from a distance. The major thing I think was on her mind was 'I have seen Yeon Woo with her, she might know something But it was pointless since she had to call had m anyway.
Okay now you are right Se Hee approaching Jina was pointless.
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11 korfan
May 15, 2018 at 11:11 AM
Someone should ask Ji-na, "So, as a paralegal working in a top law firm, dealing with a multitude of cases and knowing how the attorneys work, is it logical to jump to conclusions without gathering the facts first?"
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Rukia wants melona
May 15, 2018 at 11:44 AM
My point exactly!!
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12 PakalanaPikake
May 15, 2018 at 1:34 PM
I've been trying to get a handle on Yeon-woo. It prompted me to consider my own lifelong quest to understand my skills and aptitudes. Aptitudes are inherent abilities that you're born with, as opposed to interests. You can be interested in something but not necessarily any good at it. Interests can change over time, but you never lose an aptitude's knack.
Years ago, well after graduating college, I took a battery of aptitude tests at the Johnson O'Connor Research Foundation (JORF). Come to find out that I am well-suited to law and psychology. (I seriously considered going back to school for a Master in Social Work.) Watergate and the sleaziness and unethical shenanigans of the legal profession put me off. SUITS reminds me of that with a vengeance. For nifty insights into the aptitudes lawyers (and other professions) exhibit, the foundation offers a free publication. Although it's easier to understand if you've already taken the tests, it addresses all of the traits JORF tests for, and how each manifests in everyday life. Over the years, they have come to identify patterns of aptitudes shared by successful members of various professions.
Full disclosure: I have no connection with JORF, other than as a client who appreciates the fascinating research that gave me so much useful insight into what makes me tick.
https://www.jocrf.org/sites/jocrf.org/files/assets/Understanding_Your_Aptitudes.pdf
I read the book last night with an eye to understanding Yeon-woo and his intriguing yet inconsistent capabilities. I would hazard a guess that he is an Objective personality who needs to work with others, whereas Kang-seok is a Subjective personality who prefers to be a lone-wolf rock-star and subject matter expert.
One of the hallmarks of lawyers is a high degree of inductive reasoning. It is actually a form of pattern recognition that can masquerade as intuition when it occurs instantaneously. What I think I'm seeing in Yeon-woo is a person with a terrific eidetic memory, but I don't think he's got split-second pattern recognition. It takes him longer, but he eventually sees it. If he were in a less time-constricted field than trial law, he might do much better. As a mitigating factor, he was overloaded with two cases plus the mock trial, and was trustingly unprepared for the latter.
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May 15, 2018 at 1:39 PM
Part 2 of 2
As for Ji-na, I suspect that her test-taking trauma could well trace back to low clerical aptitude, which might make her slow in the manual aspects of filling out test forms. Perhaps it is really a case of perfectionistic performance anxiety. We don't know anything about her background. For all we know, she could come from a family of celebrated lawyers, and she might not have all the attributes of her kin. Or she might have everything it takes and more, but was shut down by someone who jealously felt threatened by her chops being more prodigious then their own.
I'm beginning to suspect that her inductive reasoning is stronger than Yeon-woo's. Perhaps the pair of them would complement each other's aptitudes and make a dynamite team. For the moment, Ji-na's pettiness has put the kibosh on that pipe dream.
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13 bong-soo
May 15, 2018 at 4:12 PM
Thank you @lollypip for the recaps. Thanks for explaining to us that mock trial. I was really confused,
Kang-seok observed how the mock trial played out so I am sure Yeon-woo will be getting some feedback. Especially as there was the bet component,
( I have a feeling that Geun-sik is, how do I put it, going to be a good guy at some point in the story. (I hope he is not the reason Yeon-woo is sitting in that prison at the beginning of the drama.) Ha-yeon must be a good judge of character to head up a law firm like this one and she keeps him around.
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korfan
May 15, 2018 at 8:43 PM
I've been wondering this also since a couple of episodes ago, why exactly does Ha-yeon keep Geun-sik around? Is he in fact a good lawyer? Other than seeing him walk around the firm's hallways, giving the junior associates orders, and watching him give Yeon-woo and Kang-seok a difficult time, what else does he do? Is he handling cases .... is he going to trials? No idea.
Let's see if he surprises us in the coming episodes and does something unexpectedly good.
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14 immawish
May 15, 2018 at 5:18 PM
Gah, I knew the comment about Jina is coming, right after the episode I was thinking on what they did differently from the US version that this Jina's action felt so wrong and absurd. But that's the problem, they did it exactly the same way. I think Rachel won watcher's heart earlier in the episodes with all the context of her not going out with her co-worker BUT Mike melted her heart nevertheless, whereas we didn't get Jina at all except her being cutie cutie about-to-be love interest then she snapped too quick when we haven't had her sitting in our y'all-better-make-her-ended-up-with-him chair.
But regardless all that, again, what this drama sold in the first place was its bromance and we're eating good. Also : petition to bring more Daham because this drama (also Kangsuk) ain't running without her.
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immawish
May 15, 2018 at 5:23 PM
Anyway I am totally afraid now on how they are going to work the loveline between Jina and Yeonwoo now because if they totally go by the US version, oh my god it won't be so convincing
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15 Myna
May 16, 2018 at 10:25 AM
I am loving the growing relation between Kang-seok and Yeon-woo
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16 Kimberly Mulder
May 30, 2018 at 8:36 PM
Hey!
So apparently Ji-Na told Yeon-Woo about 'every one has a rabbit' and the moon thing.
Can someone please tell me in which episode and around what time frame (approximately) cause i can't find it. Went over every episode and still can't find it. And i've got a feeling, because i can't find it, that i've missed something.
~ > " Then she hears Se-hee repeat her “rabbit in the moon” analogy and jumps to the conclusion that Yeon-woo also told Se-hee her deepest fear, and instead of waiting and, you know, asking, she calls him out right in the middle of the mock trial. Granted, Yeon-woo was pretty awful when he used her weakness against her, but to be fair, Ji-na’s the one who made it personal. I’d like to alter what I said in the last recap — Ji-na is much too volatile and negative, and she doesn’t deserve Yeon-woo’s friendship (much less anything more) until she figures out how to talk to people instead of assuming the worst about them."
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17 pohonphee
July 5, 2023 at 11:18 PM
I know Son Suk-ku is good in English, but to make him speak random English just to show off is just funny 😂. Cannot stop replaying and laughing
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