Black: Episode 15
by odilettante
Now that they’ve both admitted they like each other, Ha-ram and Black are free to enjoy adorable dates together. Except someone knows the truth about Black being a Reaper, which threatens to ruin his relationship with Ha-ram. Black also tries to figure out who is really behind all the deaths, and Soo-wan reaches her breaking point.
EPISODE 15 RECAP
Ha-ram confesses to Black that the one she likes is him (or, to her eyes, Moo-gang). Then she kisses him, much to Black’s astonishment, which causes his Reaper tattoo to glow. Ha-ram’s mother, just arriving at Ha-ram’s place, sees Black’s tattoo. Mom recognizes the tattoo and wonders in fear why “that person” is now after Ha-ram.
Seon-young’s interview tape is leaked to the press. Man-soo is stunned to hear that his father, who he’s idolized, could have had sex with teenagers. Man-ho is also accused of murdering Jin-sook to cover it up, and his crimes further include the shady business dealings that meant buying the Mujin mall land from himself. Senator Nam is also implicated, his chances for presidency now squashed.
Man-soo meets with Man-ho, desperate to be told that the interview video is fake. Man-ho points out it would be silly to put a fake tape in a safety deposit box and keep it for twenty years. Man-ho blames Man-soo for the leak, since Man-soo was the one who opened the safe and gave the tape to the police.
Man-ho also blames Man-soo for his arrest, since Man-ho didn’t know the butterfly watch his father gave him was related to something so seedy. Man-ho was the one who originally ordered the investigation into Scarface’s arson case, flagging the insurance request as fraud. But Chairman Oh made him sign the payout, anyway, much to Man-ho’s bewilderment.
Man-ho’s furious that all the work he did to keep Royal Group from being destroyed by Chairman Oh’s perverse actions was ignored, since the chairman planned to leave everything to Man-soo. Man-ho insists he didn’t kill Jin-sook — the only hit he ordered was the attack on Tiffany.
Man-soo retorts that Man-ho tried to kill him, too, but Man-ho says that wasn’t him. Even if Man-ho hated Man-soo, he couldn’t kill his own brother. He doesn’t know who attacked Man-soo. Man-ho then wonders if Man-soo purposefully accused Man-ho of murder and corruption, so that Man-soo would be arrested and Man-ho would inherit everything.
Man-soo dazedly walks through the police station and sees the evidence board with all the photos of the people related to the case that have been killed. Man-soo stares at it in disbelief, shocked to think that his father was responsible for their deaths — including the deaths of Ha-ram’s father and Joon.
Chief Bong is thrilled that today is his squad’s first day as Violent Crimes team, but he gets a call about Kwang-kyun, and his face suddenly becomes serious.
Leo thinks about the lie he told Kwang-kyun — that he grew up in America, even though he really lived in Mujin. Leo opens up his closet to pull out a book that says it belongs to Kim Woo-shik from Mujin Elementary School.
An old flip phone (with a bunny charm dangling from it) starts to buzz and Leo answers it. It’s his father.
Ha-ram finds Man-soo at a coffee shop, looking completely shaken by his encounter with Man-ho. She thanks him for helping her reunite with Black, then wonders if Man-ho killed his father. Man-soo is just relieved that she hasn’t found out the connection between Chairman Oh and the deaths of her father and Joon.
Black arrives at Ha-ram’s apartment just as she’s returning home. He reminds her that they’re supposed to go on a date today, and while he waits for her to freshen up, he practices his kissing skills on a mailbox until Ha-ram suddenly shows up, surprising him. Pffft.
They go to an amusement park, which Black inwardly sighs over since amusement parks are the gateway for Reapers to enter the human world, so it’s old news to him. But Ha-ram has always wanted to go to an amusement park ever since she and her father got lost one night and she discovered an amusement park hidden in the woods.
Her father, undoubtedly recognizing this mysterious amusement park as the Reaper gateway, convinced Ha-ram that they should go somewhere else to the rescue team could find them, promising to take her to an amusement park later. But he wasn’t able to fulfill that promise, because the next day her mother left them, and her father was too focused on raising Ha-ram himself.
Black realizes that the hidden amusement park in the woods must be the Reaper gateway, especially when Ha-ram says she tried looking for it later but could never find it. Ha-ram happily rides everything in the amusement park, and even though Black is bored out of his mind, he enjoys watching her excitement.
Black tries his first-ever ice cream, amazed by how delicious it is. Ha-ram leans in to kiss off some ice cream that’s dribbled on his lips. As she heads to the next ride, Black dazedly rubs more ice cream all over his lips in order to get another kiss. Ha!
Despite Ha-ram’s joy about being on a date with Black, she wonders if Joon is okay with her being so happy. She spots a young boy with a Shadow following him and suddenly turns around, averting her gaze. The joy of the day is suddenly gone.
Black, noticing the Reapers following the boy, realizes what Ha-ram has seen. He sighs, wipes the ice cream from his face, and goes to comfort Ha-ram.
Ha-ram broods over the fact that, because she saved Scarface, other people died. She vows to never save anyone again. Black reminds her that she saved Tiffany and Hyo-jin, her stepbrother and stepfather, and the children trapped in the fire, which is praiseworthy enough. That seems to perk her up and they continue to enjoy their date.
After he drops Ha-ram off at home, Black gets a frantic call from Chief Bong. Black’s phone has been left in the car all day, so he’s missed the dozens of previous calls letting him know that Kwang-kyun was killed in a car accident.
Black attends Kwang-kyun’s funeral. Considering Kwang-kyun’s “Crazy Dog” ways, Black speculates that Kwang-kyun probably gave his Reapers a good fight as they tried to escort him to the afterlife. Black tries to convince himself that it’s none of his business to care so much about a human, but he still can’t seem get over the shock of Kwang-kyun’s death.
As the mourners eat and drink, the dirty detective points out that Chief Bong’s team continues to get into trouble, since everyone believes Kwang-kyun’s accident was due to him driving drunk.
Chief Bong throws himself at the dirty detective, attempting to wrestle him. The other detectives try to separate them, but it’s only when Black intervenes by throwing detectives across the room that everyone stops. Repeating what Chief Bong once said, Black vows that if anyone messes with his team, he’ll make them regret it, even it means fighting the Blue House itself.
Ha-ram’s surprised to find Black sitting outside her apartment, and he tells her that Kwang-kyun died. I suppose it’s hard to know that Black’s wearing mourning clothes when he’s always dressed in black. Black’s confused about what he’s feeling, realizing that it must be sadness. He doesn’t like feeling that way.
As Black heads to his car, Ha-ram’s mother suddenly appears and orders him to stay away from her daughter. She calls Black a Grim Reaper, which causes his tattoo to glow. Mom says she knows what he is and will tell Ha-ram, but Black grabs her and drags her to a secluded alley so they can talk in private.
Mom says she won’t allow her daughter to be fooled like she was. A flashback reveals that when the search party was looking for Ha-ram and her father lost in the woods, Mom heard Ha-ram calling out for help and hurried to the sound of her daughter’s voice.
She saw her husband pulling up Ha-ram from where she nearly fell from a cliff. As he did so, his tattoo glowed. Mom, staring at him horror, demanded to know what that thing was on his neck.
Mom tells Black that she recognized the same tattoo on Black, and orders him to stay away from Ha-ram. Black refuses. Mom tells Black that she loved her husband, too, but Ha-ram will leave him just like Mom left Ha-ram’s father the moment she found out what he was.
She orders Black to go with her to tell Ha-ram the truth about what he is, so he can see Ha-ram’s reaction for himself. But Black threatens Mom to keep it a secret or else he’ll kill Ha-ram. He has no intention of getting involved with a human, and tells Mom to stay out of it until Black leaves on his own volition. Mom weeps over the fact Ha-ram is sharing her mother’s fate.
Hip-hop is stunned to hear that Ha-ram’s father was a Reaper, but Black demands that Joseon tell him the truth about Ha-ram’s father. Joseon explains that Ha-ram’s father was the 444 of the previous generation of Reapers. That 444 was even more coldhearted than Black, and considered the best 444 of any generation.
But when he was out collecting souls on his own because his partner had to be elsewhere, 444 looked into the eyes of the bride crying for her dying husband, and ended up falling for her — thus possessing Ha-ram’s father’s body and living with her mother until she learned the truth.
That means Ha-ram is half-Reaper, half-human, and explains why she can see the Reapers, but only as Shadows. It also explains her amazing healing abilities. Joseon surmises that her ability to see how people will die must be some mutation due to her being half-human, since it’s not something Reapers can do.
Black assumes the Death Squad must have taken him and locked him up after Ha-ram’s father’s body was killed the second time. But Joseon sadly says 444 perished.
That shocks the other Reapers, since the only way for a Reaper to perish is by harming another human — surely Reapers can’t perish just by falling in love? Joseon says that 444 killed someone, and a flashback reveals that Ha-ram’s father killed a man who was holding his wife hostage, saving her life — and the life of their yet-unborn daughter.
Joseon warns Black to be careful. Ha-ram’s mother and 444 were both in love just like Black and Ha-ram are, but Black should keep in mind the fate of the original 444. Black scoffs, since he’s not foolish enough to perish for a mere human. He still plans to leave as soon as he finds Loser.
Black gives himself a pep-talk in the mirror, reminding himself that he’s 444 (at least, the new generation) and just temporarily borrowing Moo-gang’s body. He sternly tells his reflection that he’s only here to find Loser, realizing realizes he needs to get his gun back (which was confiscated when he was suspended after punching the dirty detective).
Black arrives at the police station and basically insists he’s reinstated just because he says so. The dirty detective protests, and Black holds up his phone, revealing he “accidentally” recorded the detective saying that Ha-ram should have died to make life easier for them — a statement he’s sure the press will be eager to hear. Thanks to these threats, Black is officially reinstated and given his gun back.
Black waits outside of Ha-ram’s apartment, reminding himself that he’s the coldhearted 444 who will leave as soon as he finds Loser. But as soon as he sees Ha-ram, his bravado turns into more of a wistful, “At least I hope I’ll be able to leave.”
He and Ha-ram head to the hospital, where Leo is filming a scene. She’s annoyed when Black asks her if she sees anyone with a Shadow, since she told him that she was no longer going to save anyone. Black’s not asking her to save anyone, though — just to see if they have a Shadow.
Annoyed, Ha-ram tells him that no one has a Shadow and she storms off. Black tries to follow, but Leo steps out during his break, mentioning he heard about Kwang-kyun’s death. Black asks if there’s been anyone strange around Leo lately, and Leo says there hasn’t. Black wonders to himself if he’s following the wrong guy and if Loser is hiding elsewhere.
Black asks Leo what his relationship is with Man-ho or Chairman Oh, but Leo’s just Man-soo’s friend, who only saw Man-ho in passing and never met Chairman Oh in person.
Black wonders if the man who ordered Scarface to get the tapes wasn’t Man-ho or Chairman Oh after all, since Leo genuinely doesn’t seem to have a connection with either. Black’s still annoyed that he can’t figure out where Loser is hiding, since all the obvious places Black has thought to look haven’t panned out.
Black finds Ha-ram at a music store, listening to An Chi-hwan’s “If I Were,” which she tells Black was Joon’s favorite song. Black cautiously asks if she’s still mad at him, but she just puts the headphones on him so he can listen.
I would like to be anything
In the world for you
Just like today
When we’re together
You don’t know how much happiness it brings me
He takes off the headphones, saying it’s too sad. But Ha-ram buys a copy of the CD and takes it to the columbarium to leave it with Joon. She also tells Joon that she’s now dating his younger brother, Moo-gang.
Ha-ram admits to Black that she saw Joon the day he died, and wishes that his Shadow had appeared then so she could have saved him. She sighs as she wishes she had stayed with Joon that day.
Young Ha-ram tracked him down to where he was waiting for Seon-young. When young Ha-ram went to tell her father that Joon was in town, she saw her father’s Shadow, which made her forget all about Joon.
Ha-ram asks Black to never leave her, like Joon and her father did. Black pulls her into a hug, saying he’ll see her later. But he broods over the fact that Ha-ram’s mother left her husband once she found out he was a Reaper.
Black quietly portals into Ha-ram’s room while she’s sleeping. He gently lies down next to her, watching her sleep. He can’t believe that he’s actually jealous of humans, and admits to himself that for once the coldhearted 444 is afraid.
When he gets home, Black opens up Joon’s guitar case. Despite this being the first time he’s ever seen a guitar, he manages to play and sing “If I Were.” Black’s impressed with his newfound skills, assuming that Joon must have taught Moo-gang how to play. He also finds a note in the case, which he starts to read before Joseon arrives to check on him.
Black asks if he knows why Black can’t leave Moo-gang’s body, but Joseon says he hasn’t figured it out yet. Black can’t stay in Moo-gang’s body forever, especially if it will hurt Ha-ram to find out the truth like it did for her mother, so Black tells Joseon to call the Death Squad tomorrow. Joseon wonders if Black can leave Ha-ram with no regrets. Black doesn’t answer.
Man-soo’s been mulling over the murders that happened twenty years ago, and doesn’t think his brother could be responsible. Man-soo’s birth mother finds him at the hospital, but Man-soo wants nothing to do with her.
Ha-ram rounds the corner and sees them talking, noticing the woman’s Shadow again. Hip-hop is thrilled that Ha-ram’s there and that she can see them (or at least the Shadow), and he purposefully bumps into Ha-ram so that she’s is forced to see how the woman dies. Hip-hop’s convinced Ha-ram will call Black and they’ll figure out a way to save the woman’s life.
Ha-ram’s at the hospital to check on Man-soo and bring him porridge, but he tries to brush her off. He also ignores her questions about the woman he was talking to. But when Ha-ram says she thinks the woman will commit suicide, Man-soo sits up in concern.
Black prepares his goodbye speech to Ha-ram, where he plans to tell Ha-ram that he (as Moo-gang) will be moving back to America. But a shiny light catches his eye and he portals to the room across the street to figure out where the reflection is coming from. He sees the telescope set up, focused on Moo-gang’s house, and wonders if someone is spying on him.
The photos of Moo-gang plastered on the wall seem to confirm it, and Black also finds a tape recorder of Moo-gang’s phone calls. Black wonders who would be spying on Moo-gang, but he doesn’t have to wonder for long because Missing-finger arrives, talking on the phone to someone about Man-ho, Kwang-kyun, and Moo-gang’s informant.
Black wrestles with Missing-finger, who escapes. Black chases him through the neighborhood, but soon he has to stop. Black collapses on the ground, once again clutching his heart as he tries to catch his breath.
Soo-wan finds out that Lee Byung-tae, Moo-gang’s informant and the son of the insurance investigator who was killed, is actually the restaurant owner she visited — the one who said he didn’t remember seeing Moo-gang.
Black returns to Missing-finger’s room, but it’s been stripped bare. Black wonders if there’s someone else behind everything, someone who isn’t Man-ho. He sees a forgotten photo wedged into the floorboard and picks it up.
Lee Byung-tae is convinced that Moo-gang must have gotten his memory back since Black was so obsessed with finding Scarface. Byung-tae wonders why Moo-gang hasn’t called him yet, but when he sees Missing-finger pull up to the restaurant, Byung-tae hides.
Byung-tae recognizes him as the man who had gone into Moo-gang’s room to try and kill him, wanting Moo-gang’s eyes. Byung-tae was the one who’d called and warned Missing-finger to not touch Moo-gang, or else Byung-tae would release the video tape.
Realizing the culprit has to be someone other than Man-ho or Chairman Oh, Black decides to hold off on his plans of calling the Death Squad until he’s captured the person responsible for killing everyone. Black sets up a victim board in his basement where he puts all the photos of everyone who’s died, as well s a photo of Man-ho and the mysterious man with the butterfly watch.
As he makes connections between the photos with string, he realizes that, excluding everyone Scarface killed due to personal grudges, the man with the butterfly watch must have killed everyone else.
Black thought Man-ho was originally responsible, but now deduces that there must be three watches out there — Byung-shik’s, Chairman Oh’s (which was handed down to Man-ho), and the the third one belonging to the mysterious man behind all these deaths.
Retracing Kwang-kyun’s steps the day he died, Black discovers Kwang-kyun contacted a detective in Mujin, who sent a copy of an old case file Kwang-kyun requested.
The detective now shows Black the original file, which includes a bunny keychain as part of the evidence. Black gets the crime lab to look for any evidence on the keychain, and they actually manage to pull a decent fingerprint.
Soo-wan visits Joon’s ashes, apologizing for not being brave enough. She wonders if Moo-gang would be safe now if she had either spoken up or died with Joon back then. She cries as she says that she’s exhausted and wants to give up on everything. She asks if she can join Joon, and pulls out a syringe of something fatal.
Black arrives just then and says that she can’t die now, calling her “Seon-young.” Soo-wan, surprised, asks if Moo-gang’s memories have returned, and he shows her the guitar pick he found in Joon’s case. She’d bought it for him as a goodbye gift when he left for Seoul, hiding it in the case for him to find later.
Black says that he’s also found the man responsible for everything. He hands her a stack of photos of all the victims, and then the bunny keychain. She’s shocked to see it, and Black reveals that twenty years ago a police officer — Kwang-kyun — went to investigate a call about sexual assault, and discovered the bunny in the empty phone booth.
A flashback shows that Seon-young had called the police to report being raped, but before she could finish, Clara grabbed her and dragged her out of the phone booth. Clara had warned her that Seon-young would be arrested for prostitution if Seon-young reported it, so Seon-young didn’t try calling again.
Black asks if the owner of the bunny keychain is the man who raped her, and Soo-wan, tears in her eyes, silently nods.
Flashback to when Congressman Kim interviewed Seon-young. He told her that he needed to switch out the tapes. He stuck the tape with the completed interview in his bag and started a new tape, asking her where the sexual acts happened. Seon-young said she can’t quite remember — a mountain cabin somewhere.
Congressman Kim reached out to stop the recording on the new tape. He asked her one last question: how much did she get paid for having sex, adding that he could pay just as much. Terrified, Seon-young tried to resist as Congressman Kim grabbed her and threw her to the ground to rape her. Unbeknownst to Congressman Kim, the camera kept filming.
Seon-young ripped off the bunny keychain from the congressman’s bag in her effort to resist him, and afterwards, still held it in her hand as Congressman Kim warned her if she ever told anyone about this, he’d ruin her.
Black realizes that the tape of Seon-young’s rape is the one that everyone is searching for. Soo-wan doesn’t know where it is, but when Scarface was threatining Seon-young and Clara, Joon had appeared with the tape in his hand, leading Scarface away.
Seon-young had found Joon in the middle of the road, run over by a car. When she saw police cars headed their way, she ran away. Soo-wan was convinced that Congressman Kim was the one who hit Joon with his car and took the tape, until Jin-sook said she met with him to give him the tape for a million dollars.
It turns out that Congressman Kim came upon Joon’s body after he had already been run over. He searched the body, but didn’t find the tape.
Black wonders why Congressman Kim would kill so many people just for one tape, but Soo-wan points out that the tape can ruin the congressman’s life. She adds that Moo-gang knows where the tape is, and plays a voicemail Moo-gang left the day he died.
Moo-gang told Soo-wan that even though he knows she’ll be hurt by the truth being revealed, he can’t stay silent if it means proving that his brother was murdered. Moo-gang apologized, adding that his feelings for her were real, and they could talk later. Except later that day, Moo-gang was shot.
Soo-wan begs Black to remember where the tape is, but since he’s not Moo-gang, of course he doesn’t remember.
The sound of a commotion elsewhere in the columbarium attracts their attention. Black and Soo-wan watch as Congressman Kim declares that he’s running for president, and the primary focus of his platform is to reform corrupt ties between politics and businesses so that tragedies like Mujin’s mall collapse won’t happen again.
Ha-ram, watching the press conference on the news, believes that an upright man like Congressman Kim deserves to president. Of course, Black and Soo-wan, watching the press conference live from the columbarium, know how terrible the congressman truly is. Soo-wan tells Black that he must stop the congressman, no matter what.
Black wonders where the tape might be. A flashback shows Moo-gang finding out that a “child fortune-teller” took it. Hours before he died, Moo-gang arrived at Ha-ram’s apartment to look for the tape.
COMMENTS
Not only is there a third butterfly watch (*tears out hair*), but also a third video tape! I feel like I ought to be surprised that Congressman Kim is the Big Bad, but Man-ho seemed like too obvious a choice. Not that Man-ho is an angel by any means — he definitely deserves to rot in jail (after all, he’s knowingly covered up his father’s crimes and, while the other deaths aren’t attributable to him, he did try to have Tiffany killed. Plus we can never forget Sip-gyeong, RIP!).
I am furious, though, that all these deaths have been so that a man in power could become more powerful, all the while hiding the fact he raped an underage girl. Mostly I’m furious because it seems all too real. Maybe not the contract killings, but definitely the part about a man using his authority and public image to hush up the fact he sexually assaulted someone. I can understand why Soo-wan was so determined to not let anyone see the tape — she knew people were willing to kill over it. If she wanted to live, she had to continue to hide the truth. But if there was ever a time for Soo-wan to have her #metoo moment, it’s now. She might be risking her life, but at least she has Black on her side, so she’s no longer alone. Together they can fight to take down this bastard and reveal what a truly horrible man he is.
Of course, that all depends on them finding the tape, which Moo-gang knows about and that Ha-ram apparently has. Or had. But I doubt Ha-ram knows about how important the tape is, because if she had watched it, then she wouldn’t be so willing to support Congressman Kim. I had a brief thought that she hid it (unwatched) in the time capsule, thinking it would be a fun memory from Joon to unearth later. But if Moo-gang found the tape, then that obviously doesn’t make sense. Then again, if Moo-gang found the tape that day, I feel like it would have found it by now. There wasn’t much time for him to ditch it between the time he stopped by Ha-ram’s place and the time he got shot. Unless he left it with Leo — we know he visited Leo at the hotel, which is how Moo-gang ended up at the mall and was taken hostage in the first place.
Which brings us to Leo. Since he’s not connected to Man-ho or Chairman Oh (which has been the puzzler for the past few episodes), that means he’s connected to Congressman Kim. The obvious answer is that Leo is the congressman’s son. It would explain why Leo has a bunny charm similar to the one that was on the congressman’s bag, the one that Soo-wan ripped off and then left in the phone booth. It would also explain why he’s so addicted to drugs, because I can’t imagine his childhood was that great, knowing what his father was like. I’d want to escape reality as much as I could, too.
At least I can be satisfied that we finally have proof that Ha-ram’s father was a Reaper, and that she’s half-human, half-Reaper. I feel like that should give her a better chance with Black, at least better than the doom-and-gloom her mother is predicting. Her mother wasn’t a half-Reaper who’d lived with seeing Shadows all her life, so for Ha-ram to discover that the man she loves is a Reaper shouldn’t be as terrifying, right? I hope not, because I need more cute amusement park dates! Then again, it would mean putting off finding out what really happened to Joon, since, despite what all the characters believe right now, I’m not convinced that it was Joon’s body on the road. I do believe that Black is Joon’s missing soul, and once Joon’s body is found, it will mean that Black can move on to the afterlife. But is sacrificing the chance to be with the woman you love worth going to heaven?
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1 Lumiere
December 7, 2017 at 1:35 AM
There was a third tape?
1 - the interview between Congressman (or reporter) Kim and Seon-young
2 - the rape that was accidentally filmed
3 - ?
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eva
December 7, 2017 at 1:45 AM
Clara made a tape in which Soo-wan began to unbutton her shirt.
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Lumiere
December 7, 2017 at 2:36 AM
Ah ok. I forgot about that one.
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2 anna96
December 7, 2017 at 1:43 AM
Ugghh it was fun until last few episodes but now they're dragging it too much ! Without much context
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3 eva
December 7, 2017 at 1:44 AM
If only Soo-wan had talked earlier, how many people's lives would have been spared! But then I couldn't really bring myself to blame her. Such a sad girl.
Also I feel there must be a story behind Haram's father killing that man to save his wife. Waiting to find out this weekend. God I don't know what to do when this week's episodes end!
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4 tombraider
December 7, 2017 at 1:59 AM
Can I just ask? Is Congressman Kim a prominent person 20 years ago? I cannot understand how did he happen to be as influential as Charman OH and Woo Byung shik. He seem to be just a normal journalist/reporter 20 years ago and not as powerful and wealthy as the other two. But how did he end up having the 3rd butterfly watch for himself so expensive; a symbol of loyalty for one another, and as one of the members of the BIG THREE. Please enlighten me.
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eva
December 7, 2017 at 2:05 AM
He must have discovered the child prostitution ring and used the tape he made to blackmail the other baddies. Hence his riches and power.
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tombraider
December 7, 2017 at 2:14 AM
thanks eva.. no wonder that fat pig never published the tape that implicates chairman oh and woo byung shik. he gave the tape to chairman oh and in exchange of that is the expensive watch and power.
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Macin
December 8, 2017 at 4:13 PM
This is exactly what I was thinking! It makes no sense, unless he found out about their responsibility in the Mujin Mart collapse and they offered to shut him up with a fancy watch and a 13 year old. As one does.
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5 Coral
December 7, 2017 at 2:26 AM
Ha Ram said that she did not see the shadow close to Joon that day. I think this is an obvious clue...but honestly I don´t know what the hell might have happened to Joon oppa. Is he still alive or did he die at a different moment, maybe something to do with the sunk car and Ha Ram seeing him all wet in her dreams? If he is still alive he couldn´t be any of the characters we know, right?
For the rest, I loved their date and want to have more romantic moments, Black is being too shy on his affection for Ha Ram, haha!!
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meowingme
December 7, 2017 at 2:50 AM
Loved their date too! Died laughing when Ha-ram just said nonchalantly "It's sweet" after the ice cream kiss, while Black froze ^^ Such a smooth move, Ha-ram!
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eva
December 7, 2017 at 5:04 AM
Joon can't be still alive. No way? Just a deliberate cliffhanger soon to be proved wrong in the next episode.
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6 tombraider
December 7, 2017 at 2:29 AM
i must say this drama is not for a lazy brainer..as you watch ur brain should work like that of a detective because of too many information to analyze, too many missing puzzles to fill in and too many dots to connect. even in the midst of doing household chores I cant help but think of the events that happened in an episode, I feel like I want to sit down and join mad dog do his job. my colleague once commented that she tried watching the 1st episode and dropped it altogether because for her its too boring. Oh well,, to each his own.
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Grapes
December 7, 2017 at 3:00 AM
It's not everyone's taste, it's so ramped of information and too many characters were intoduced in the first few episodes, at first it feels random but when you get to the story it starts connecting, but it needs a person who loves mystry and willing to wait for the mystery to reveal little by little.
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Meh
December 7, 2017 at 4:20 AM
I agree. This show is doing quite badly on the bean count :( I can’t believe it. After being on dramabeans for yearsssss and after hundredsssss of kdrama, this is the ONLY show that got me intrigued enough to comment.
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tombraider
December 7, 2017 at 4:27 AM
high five meh!! i had been reading drama beans comments from watching other kdramas..i must say silently reading as never had i left any comment ever before.. but this drama.. i need to interact with other beannies to explore the whys what's how's where's and who's of this drama. Never was i so enthusiastic looking forward to thursdays and fridays as i know drama beans thread and recap will be out soon.
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eva
December 7, 2017 at 5:06 AM
Yeh most K-dramas are so predictable.
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Coral
December 7, 2017 at 6:39 AM
I know, this is the only drama that I´m watching these days, the only one that catches my attention. I find it quite fun, unpredictable and the love line is also sweet. I know that it requires a lot of attention from the viewer and it might not be everyone´s cup of coffee, but still don´t understand how this is not more popular.
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alasecond
December 7, 2017 at 7:02 AM
For me, Go Ara is a huge..HUGE turnoff..
stupid bathroom humour in earlier episodes did not sit well..
major part of the mystery was obvious since the beginning (identity of 444).. and besides SS and his 2 reaper friends banter no one is interesting...
second lead is too much of a candy and baby to hold against the lead...characterization wise also weak and boring..
his brother wasn't a good villain to hold attention in the beginning..
So at the moment, i have run out of my patience with others... i watch the scenes with SS and wherever actual explanation of residual mystery takes place
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ar_arguably romantic
December 7, 2017 at 7:34 PM
I love Black, and I think it's doing fine on the bean count considering it's
1. a thriller - people may have been tired out by all the thrillers this year - even rom-coms have thriller elements nowadays.
2. has SSH and Go Ara- they've been heavily criticized for their bad acting. Most people will see their names attached to a project and be like "hard pass". It's already amazing that more than 5 beanies are watching it.
3. written by the God's Gift:14 days writer. She's great at this thriller stuff, but the last 5 minutes of that drama was complete nonsense.
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Moriaelini
December 19, 2017 at 12:13 AM
That really amazes me about Go Ara...she was absolutely wonderful in Reply 1994. That is part of why I decided to watch this series...how much I loved her in that one.
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Macin
December 8, 2017 at 4:15 PM
I relate to that household thing on a spiritual level haha!
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7 meowingme
December 7, 2017 at 2:42 AM
R.I.P Kwang-kyun, you will be missed! Damn show keep killing them dogs T_T
Congratulations to those who pegged Kim as the culprit *clap hands*. Am a bit disappointed tho, that the major reveals happened through coincidence; Kwang-kyun accidentally saw a bunny keychain and Black happened to see the flash of telescope, hmm. And super sad at the reveal Ha-ram's dad perished... but maybe Joseon is lying for some reason..?
Ha-ram's mom frustrated me; I'd rather she told Ha-ram the truth about her father and her own heredity than doing things behind Ha-ram's back. She seems to always think from her own point of view instead of putting herself in Ha-ram's shoes, ugh.
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tombraider
December 7, 2017 at 2:46 AM
oh i dearly will miss Crazy dog. His acting is superb; I must say really commendable!
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Grapes
December 7, 2017 at 3:17 AM
I didn't except that he would die I thought he will be the last man standing.
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eva
December 7, 2017 at 5:08 AM
Same feelings about Haram's Mom. And to move from Haram's Dad to such a wife-beating bully that is her current husband.
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ar_arguably romantic
December 7, 2017 at 7:49 PM
Ditto! RIP, Crazy Dog! He was so close! I think the reason why the mom can't put herself in Haram's shoes is because she sees reapers as evil things. She doesn't know that reapers are pitiful beings who are either trying to work off a debt or trying to pass time until their bodies are found. I think even in Goblin, the rumor among reapers was that reapers committed the greatest sin (and that's why they have to work instead of traipsing off to paradise) and I think some reapers didn't want to know what that sin was. It was not until later that we found out what that sin was.
She may have wanted to spare Haram the truth about her father because she didn't want Haram to herself as fully human, and not part reaper. In the past, she saw Haram as a monster because of her father. But in recent months, I think she's starting to see Haram as a human.
The way Black threatened Haram's mom...will make for an awkward formal family meeting. Would they just pretend they haven't met in the alleyway?
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eva
December 7, 2017 at 9:18 PM
Haha!
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meowingme
December 8, 2017 at 12:23 AM
Now that you said it, can kinda see that Ha-ram's mom is too stuck on her idea that reaper is bad news. Guess not everybody is like Eun-tak ^^ I wish we know why she's so freaked out tho, did she receive any bad/weird treatment from him? Even when she saw the reaper sign, he was in the process of saving her daughter...
And on that family meetint, hope there's no red bean soup served ^^
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namnam
December 8, 2017 at 8:06 AM
There was a stark contrast between how he treats Haram and her mother(and almost everybody else) in that scene. Once again did we realize how special Haram is for Black. Altough I must admit it was a tiny bit disturbing because we expect mothers-in-law should be treated in a particular way.
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Macin
December 8, 2017 at 4:33 PM
I just kept (somewhat apprehensively) saying “Respect your elders, Moo-gang!” Like, how can you take your future mother in law by the throat like that... in an alleyway... while you threaten to kill her daughter (which of course, he wouldn’t dare do, but she doesn’t know that!)
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Macin
December 8, 2017 at 4:31 PM
Now, with the context we have, I feel like she didn’t see Ha-Ram as the monster, but her husband. After all, she brought Ha-Ram up despite her visions, but she only left once she found out her husband was a Reaper. It was enough that her daughter was shunned, maybe she wasn’t able to deal with both those truths and that’s why she left. She probably thought as the dad was a reaper, he’d be a better fit for Ha-Ram (he would understand more than she would), and so she left Ha-Ram with him instead of taking the girl with her.
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Macin
December 8, 2017 at 4:27 PM
I agree with a lot of this. I’m gonna use their alternative names as I can’t really remember their Korean names.
It really bothered me as well that Crazy Dog found the keychain by coincidence, the silly way in which they kept bringing the light onto Black’s face, and the fact that Crazy Dog went to question Kim whilst drunk.
I feel like 007 Iying to incite Black to leave the body, because he knows that otherwise, Black will stay as Moo-gang with Ha-Ram.
Yeah, the mum should’ve just gone to Ha-Ram straight away instead of beating around the bush like this... if she wants to protect Ha-Ram then telling her instead of threatening Black with telling her seems more plausible, but perhaps she just doesn’t want to hurt Ha-Ram because she knows how it feels. Maybe she thinks it’s better for Ha-Ram if Black leaves as Moo-gang, than as 444.
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Moriaelini
December 19, 2017 at 12:20 AM
I am honestly just totally disgusted by Ha Ram’s mom. Okay I get that discovering that your spouse may not be totally human would be scary, but why didn’t she think about how he had treated her all those years? Clearly he loved her and Ha Ram and he showed it too. For her to leave him and go to a wife and son beating pos..the mind boggles. Okay, he did sort of redeem himself a bit, but I still cannot believe she didn’t give Ha Ram’s dad at least a fighting chance after him being such a great husband and father. Don’t even get me started on her trying to kill Ha Ram when she was a child.
I am so so sad that they killed off Crazy Dog! That made me cry a little when I saw the end of episode 14.
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Nelly
February 17, 2018 at 10:11 AM
tbh if u watch the previous episodes, there has always been light reflecting on black whenever he’s infront of the mirror talking to himself. i initially thought that maybe it was a lighting mishap on the part of the crew, but it kept on happening, and now daaaaaamn. every LITTLE thing just has meaning 👌
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8 Jen
December 7, 2017 at 2:48 AM
Now I wonder..
What's on the letter that Black never get to read?
What's inside the time capsule that Joon and Haram buried?
Why did Scarface burn money noted on his victims?
Who ordered the kill on Haram's dad?
Who the hell is 007 and how the hell he keep all these secrets to himself!!!
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Grapes
December 7, 2017 at 3:07 AM
Exactly, those questions is not even answered in the next episode, the writer will keep us hanging to the end.
I am most curious about 007 since the beginning he seems shady.
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Grapes
December 7, 2017 at 3:15 AM
I will also add one to your questions,
where's the rape tape that dirty man fimed? is it the thing that they buried in the time capsule?
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Jen
December 7, 2017 at 5:39 AM
I have a feeling.. because it was mentioned in the much earlier episode.
All those mysteries and hints!
We still don't know who is creepy Doc too.
Where is Loser?
How did Haram got the tape and not even remember she has it?
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eva
December 7, 2017 at 5:11 AM
Scarface burned paper money for dead people for this is a Chinese custom, to appease the dead. He is a Chinese of Korean ethnicity, who crossed over to korea to work.
Harm's Dad vanished because he killed a human with a gun. That's what happens to a reaper. I wonder this the same thing will happen to Black, when he, very likely, will be protecting Haram. History repeats itself. Everything is in a loop/cycle/double in this show.
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9 tombraider
December 7, 2017 at 4:10 AM
what is exactly moogang and leo discussed behind closed door..? why it was recorded on leo's laptop? why leo seems indifferent and oblivious to the killings happening around him? and how did haram got the tape? on the day moogang went to harams house to ask about the tape why did leo randomly called moogang to go over his hotel and it seems like they are a common acquaintance prior to that?
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10 Meh
December 7, 2017 at 4:17 AM
I can’t help but feel that Leo is not Leo.... I mean. Why does he need to go back and look for his elementary school book that states the name of his school? And did anyone notice this too? He took some time to find the burner phone as well. If that phone has been used all this whole for Congressman Kim daddy to contact him, shouldn’t he know where he placed it?
Leo aside, I am starting to feel a liiiiiiiittle pity for Man Ho. He really strives so hard for his family business. And it does seem that he values family (to a certain extent). He didn’t kill the father nor Man Soo. But of course, he’s still a dog killer 😑
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gashina
December 7, 2017 at 7:18 AM
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Katrina
December 7, 2017 at 11:19 AM
Are you saying Leo is actually Joon? But his father would know so I guess not
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ira
December 7, 2017 at 5:39 PM
Feel the same too.
who knows if leo is loser? hmmma
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Macin
December 8, 2017 at 4:41 PM
I was thinking that as well! About the phone placement, I mean... This whole story about him living in Mujin for a while came so out the blue, and when he asks Moo-gang if he’s sure Crazy Dog was drunk, it gave me a weird vibe. There was no real back story between him and Kim aside from that phone call.
Yeah, the thing with Man-Ho was pretty deep. Though I can’t excuse his covering up for his dad, I can understand because he was trying to protect/save the company, and to have his dad be proud of him (whether for the company or just for bonding). Still, I wonder what options he had in the first place.
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11 Just Alee
December 7, 2017 at 5:18 AM
I need to ask this: according to 007, Haram's father (previous 444) looked into the bride's lovin eyes and thus fell in love with her instead. Wasn't it the same with Black? He looked into Haram's eyes when she protected him from Sangmin. Obviously Haram already falls for Black (the real 444 in Moogang's body) and at that moment Black kept thinking about reapers shouldn't look into human's eyes in whose in love. So, does Black fall in love with Haram bcoz of that?
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Katrina
December 7, 2017 at 11:21 AM
I think he loved her before that.
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vlkBadWolf
December 8, 2017 at 12:09 AM
I think the "falling in love by looking into the eyes of a human in love" does not apply to Black - there might be difference between reapers and reapers in a human body
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12 PakalanaPikake
December 7, 2017 at 6:54 AM
Thank you for recapping and commenting, odilettante. I need to get some shut-eye, so will be back to read later.
Something has been bugging me. Is there some kind of wordplay involved with Han Mu-gang's name? Han + Gang = Han River? Mu = ??? The chief reaper in ARANG AND THE MAGISTRATE was Moo-young ("Nameless"??) In SIX FLYING DRAGONS, what does swordsman Moo-hyul's name mean?
Thanks! I'm really curious about the possibilty of a special name. Maybe I'm only barking up the wrong tree. ;-)
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odilettante
December 7, 2017 at 12:01 PM
Eh, I'm not sure, but I do know that 만수무강 (mansoomoogang) is an idiom that basically means "long life" (as in, "may you live a long and healthy life").
That might not mean anything in terms of why Moo-gang and Man-soo were so named, but I wouldn't put anything past this writer.
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PakalanaPikake
December 7, 2017 at 11:34 PM
Thank you so much, odilettante! I appreciate your taking time out from your minioning to provide linguistic info. ;-)
Mr. Spock just popped into my mind. LOL.
"May you live a long and healthy life" is a little late for poor Moo-gang, but maybe it bodes better for Man-soo.
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Macin
December 8, 2017 at 4:48 PM
I was thinking of that link as well, when the fried chicken scene happened in Moo-gang’s place. I didn’t notice it until Moo-gang was talking about him and Man-Soo being friends, and he said “만수 무강 친구” and it all suddenly clicked together... but I do wonder if that was intentional, and what would its’ relevance be in the story
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13 kdramawatch
December 7, 2017 at 4:59 PM
I have a feeling the current Leo is actually Loser.
My guess is Leo died of overdose that day when Moo-gang went to the hotel room and didn’t save him. Loser was supposedly going to look for Leo. So ended up he enter is body.
Why Haram can’t see the shadow in Leo is because Loser is Black’s partner and they are supposed to collect Haram’s soul.
Haram did say that she can’t see her own shadow.
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ar_arguably romantic
December 7, 2017 at 8:05 PM
Good point!! I think this is why this Leo seems a bit nicer than past Leo - who bullied Loser and who, at one point, used violence in an attempt to force Tiffany into his van. Post Loser's escape, I think the only time Leo seemed like an asshole was in his interaction with Loser's ex-gf. If Loser's in there, I hope he can stay.
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PakalanaPikake
December 7, 2017 at 11:38 PM
I was wondering if Leo died after Moo-gang left. What better place for Loser to hide than in the body of his reaping assignment.
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14 tombraider
December 7, 2017 at 7:10 PM
I will support that theory that Loser is in Leo’s body. For me this is a plausible theory. You know that feeling of bewilderment after you realized the person whom you had been protecting from the very beginning is Loser himself. Its really a kind of exciting twist to the story. This could answer one of my concerns of why Leo seem not to bother about all the killings that is going on around him and why does he seem like he got amnesia about his past life. And one more hint, remember Leo saved that writer woman on rooftop who wants to commit suicide? I think he pity the girl and that he does not want her to experience the same fate as him; that somehow he regretted he committed suicide to begin with.
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tombraider
December 7, 2017 at 7:50 PM
I forgot to add, there was an episode where Leo asked himself; why does Han Moogang never helped him at all, that day when he overdosed in that hotel. He should know why Han Moogang did not help and left him to die after what he told him about his father. And he seemed shocked after watching the recorded encounter of him and Han moogang on his laptop.
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eva
December 7, 2017 at 9:15 PM
SOmeone must be watching Leo and putting him under surveillance.
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Yuri
December 8, 2017 at 6:15 AM
Now the question is, who is that creepy doc who wants to kill leo?he is a reaper too right ? Because he knows about the crystal ball of 444.
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Heather Gier
February 11, 2018 at 1:08 PM
I thought that was loser
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Gry
December 30, 2017 at 4:55 AM
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Macin
December 8, 2017 at 4:55 PM
OOOOH! This just got good! Also, it would explain why he had to take the notebook out (with Leo’s real name), and why he couldn’t find the phone quick enough.
But was Loser friends with Man-Soo, or is that part of Leo’s memories that Loser is getting now? Also, the whole thing about Leo living in Mujin and stuff, would Loser actually not remember that, and maybe he just became suspicious when Moo-gang paid him a visit and that’s why he went back to the notebook and the phone?
I’m liking this theory anyways, you may well be right! It’d be funny to see Moo-gang’s reactions if he’s been protecting Loser all along, haha.
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15 ar_arguably romantic
December 7, 2017 at 8:28 PM
I loved this episode, even though the Congressman Kim reveal made me sick. It feels worse that he got her to trust him only for him to rape her. I hope we can see him in hell being mauled by dogs.
I loved how Crazy Dog's colleagues mourned him, including Black, who left Crazy Dog those toothbrushes. The whole team is a little goofy, disgustingly unhygenic, and they're not the greatest detectives, but they care for each other so much. It's funny that Short-legged Grandpa mourned Crazy Dog because the actors were on opposing sides in one of my fave dramas of the year - Chief Kim.
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16 tombraider
December 7, 2017 at 8:43 PM
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17 Mia K.
December 8, 2017 at 5:21 AM
I'm as furious as you, @odilettante that some arch devil politician thinks he can justify killing so many innocent people with keeping his position in power. It's annoying that most dramas are about the characters feuding and killing each other over political or corporate power, or simply keeping the top spot in the family tree. It's sickening that they are motivated by greed that way.
I'm laughing my head off at Moo-gang this episode... It's like he has multiple personalities. The one who smears ice-cream on his lips to get another smooch, and the other one that looks bored while rollercoasting on a thrill ride!!
Still rooting for a befitting finish... Episode 15 was slow but I hope they ramp it up for the finale week.
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18 kim
December 8, 2017 at 9:53 AM
What about the grim reaper doctor? aigoo, I can't stop thinking about him.
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19 Macin
December 8, 2017 at 4:05 PM
Yes! I’ve been thinking Black is Joon since 007 said that Black was a lost body... It was either Joon or the boy with the one hand, who died with 416 (how come they both died together but only 416’s body was found? That boy should still be a lost body then, unless I missed something). But it would of course make more sense if 444 isn’t actually Joon. Then again (I’ve debated this logic waaay too much in the past week, haha!), if Joon and 416 died within days of each other, how comes 444 (as in dead Joon) was already well known when 416 became a GR? In fact, didn’t 416 die before Joon? Is Joon even actually dead, because I really don’t think that body is him, since they’ve never actually shown his face? But then again, wouldn’t the police and the mum and everyone have realised it isn’t Joon when the body was taken to the morgue? Unless it was too unrecognisable or something, but that’s a bit of a stretch I think.... Idk, I’m really looking forward to next week, but it’s also the last week so im dreading it! Go A-Ra has been doing really well in this role, in comparison to her role in the Reply series, which I found quite annoying and I probably wouldn’t have finished without Baro and Chilbong.
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Macin
December 8, 2017 at 4:07 PM
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Moriaelini
December 19, 2017 at 12:30 AM
They always had missing hand’s body. It was shown when they were showing flashbacks of the disaster. His body was never missing so he wouldn’t be a reaper for that reason. I am still placing my money on Black really being Joon.
Now see, I loved Go Ara in Reply 1994, and that was part of why I decided to watch this one.
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Macin
December 19, 2017 at 1:53 PM
Oh yeah, I got confused... they had his body’s but not his hand of course!
I still wouldn’t understand how they found MH’s body back then, but it took them 20 years to find 416’s even though they died next to each other. But I’m guessing it would be because of all the rubble, making it difficult to find, but still, 20 years...
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Macin
December 19, 2017 at 1:56 PM
I o Ku liked her once she’s went to australia, because she seemed to become a lot more mature. I feel like I didn’t like her because partly I really didn’t like that boyfriend of hers, but either way I didn’t like the character itself until she went to Australia and had to grow up.
I feel like before all that, she was just roaming around her house not doing much, thinking of that guy all day long. I know, she hasn’t difficulty finding a proper job, but to meet her character was just a bit lost back then.
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Macin
December 19, 2017 at 2:00 PM
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Sorry, my autocorrect is a bit messed up xD
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20 Lilia
December 29, 2017 at 8:49 AM
Heeeelp! who is Geon Young that Kang Ha Ram saved and Black didn't mention? I'm bad with names and I can't remember who he is!
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odilettante
December 29, 2017 at 2:58 PM
That was the little boy with the sugar sensitivity who Ha-ram saved (along with the little girl) from the creepy pedophile teacher.
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odilettante
December 29, 2017 at 2:59 PM
Also I'm assuming Black didn't mention him because Ha-ram thought she saved the boy, but Black saw the Reapers still near him and knew he'd still die, anyway, so Black knew that Ha-ram didn't technically save the boy (although she saved him from the teacher).
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Lilia
December 29, 2017 at 3:19 PM
Ah yes, now I remember! thanks a bunch ^_^ it's been eating at me for not knowing hehehe
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21 Ling
January 16, 2018 at 2:56 PM
Can someone please explain me something about Ha-ram's dad and her mother? Q.Q
I really can't understand it...
So her dad shot someone to save her mother, but at that time she was pregnant (with Ha-ram?). And then he perished.
But if he perished at that time, He wouldn't have known Ha-ram.
So he perished later or the mom was pregnant with a different kid??
Ugh help me please, I'm too stupid to understand this drama D:
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Heather Gier
February 11, 2018 at 1:11 PM
He didn't perish until he got killed later when Haram was older
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22 Heather Gier
February 11, 2018 at 1:13 PM
My husband was teasing me today because he saw that I had written notes on this kdrama. I'm American and have a hard time keeping the names a straight as I'm reading the show. So I finally sat down and wrote everyone's name down and who they were so I could try to keep the storyline straight. 😅
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