[2017 Year in Review] Editors’ Picks
by javabeans
I’m always curious to see which dramas float to the top when putting our staff’s Editors’ Picks together, because while I know which dramas were my favorite from the past year (and have a pretty good idea of the Beanies’ favorites too), it’s always an interesting exercise to try and separate personal favorites from bests, mosts, and leasts. Not that they aren’t related in some sense, of course! But here are the dramas that made it to the top of our Picks lists through rounds of voting (and surprisingly little aggravation! The consensus was strong this year).
2017 Editors’ Picks
BEST DRAMA
Forest of Secrets
awcoconuts: Although it faced stiff competition from a mythical melodrama, a mind-bendy work of science fiction, a sweeping sageuk, and a quirky, endearing rom-com, I was equal parts shocked and pleased to discover that Forest of Secrets earned the title of best drama from our editors this year. What could have been another tedious show about law enforcement and rampant corruption within the system was instead a tautly paced tale that kept viewers on the edges of their seats. The coveted trifecta was achieved: A masterfully crafted story (by a rookie!) was brought to life via a confident directorial hand and an outstanding ensemble performance. While the show may have lacked the pathos of previous best drama winners, its flawless, cinematic execution was a perfect example of pre-production done right. Forest of Secrets demonstrated that even a story centered around someone who feels nothing can succeed, when told skillfully, in evoking a fever pitch of emotions from its audience.
Honorable Mentions
Because This Life Is Our First
BEST DIRECTING
The Lonely Shining Goblin
tipsymocha: The Lonely Shining Goblin was always going to generate a lot of hype with star writer Kim Eun-sook penning the script and big names attached (namely Gong Yoo). But while the writer deserves a lot of credit for constructing this world, it was director Lee Eung-bok (who proved he could stage gorgeous backdrops for a sweeping romance in Descended From the Sun) who brought an ambitious vision to this drama, breathing life into this alternate, fantastical reality where a 900-year-old goblin’s mood determined the weather and grim reapers served as the tea-serving gatekeepers to the afterlife. Not only was this world believable, it was also visually stunning and epic in scale, even in the smallest, personal moments between our characters, achieved in no small part by PD Lee’s sentimental and steady directorial hand. Pacing might have been Goblin’s fatal flaw to some, but goodness knows every moment, however languid, was as beautiful and shining as our favorite goblin in the throes of first love.
Honorable Mentions
Forest of Secrets
BEST WRITING
Because This Life Is Our First
chocolatte: Because This Life Is Our First stands out from the year’s crop of dramas for many reasons, but chief among them is Yoon Nan-joong’s writing. More than being original, it was how the pieces of plot and character unfolded that were something else entirely—accidental cohabitation and contract marriage are standard K-drama fare, but thanks to the writer’s ability to strike a just-right balance in her storytelling, the drama felt both fresh and familiar, absurd but realistic, and breezy yet introspective, all at once.
As a romantic comedy, Because This Life certainly delivered on the heart-fluttering moments and the laughs. But what resonated with me the most was the show’s unflinching take on the lives of modern working women, and how it didn’t shy away from exploring our heroines’ full stories. By creating this trio of girlfriends who were smart, scrappy, and unapologetically themselves, the writer made it impossible for us not to root for them wholeheartedly, in support of whatever happy ending they each aspired to—love, family, thriving careers, or all of the above.
Honorable Mentions
Forest of Secrets
Seven Day Queen
BEST COMEDY
Strong Woman Do Bong-son
CandidClown: We all knew that Strong Woman Do Bong-soon was going to be funny. It just had to be, what with its premise of a tiny yet mighty woman beating the heck out of men that were literally twice her size. And comedy there was aplenty. From the physical humor of Bong-soon’s casually devastating punches, to Min-hyuk’s adorable pouting rants, there was something for everyone. Most of it worked, some of it really didn’t (*cough* Boss Tak *cough*), but all of it helped the show live up to its promised hilarity.
What was unexpected, however, was the depth that was shown outside of the comedic antics. I certainly never could have guessed that Strong Woman would provide not only one of my all-time favorite OTPs, but also one of the creepiest villains I have ever viewed. Between Min-hyuk’s swoon-worthy looks and a bride-napping psychopath, the comedy became a much-needed breather that tied the show together. It was the humor that brought us back from the emotional edges, signaling a return to normal and promising that our heroine—and her Prince Min Min—would undoubtedly save the day. Now if only laughter could do that in real life….
Honorable Mentions
Chief Kim
BEST ACTION OR THRILLER DRAMA
Circle
odilettante: Cliffhangers are essential for any good thriller, and Circle gave us two each episode, thanks to the split timelines between the modern-day 2017 “Beta Project” and the dystopian 2037 “Brave New World.” The main draw was in figuring out how these two timelines connected, although each timeline was filled with enough twists and turns to be a compelling story in its own right. While special effects might be lacking for a show classified as science fiction, there was a cinematic quality to the way it was filmed and edited, plus the cast—particularly Yeo Jin-gu and Kim Kang-woo—more than made up for any technical shortcomings. Instead of being predominantly action-packed, the drama leaned into the philosophical quandaries of using technology to manipulate memories for the common good, while also exploring the moral dilemma of exploiting a person’s (or an alien’s) life in order to create a happier and more peaceful world. Alien technology may have been the primary plot device, but the end result was a very relatable struggle about humanity and the importance of family—or those who feel like family, no matter where they’re from.
Honorable Mentions
Rescue Me
BEST HISTORICAL DRAMA
Seven Day Queen
chickachunga: A tragic love story of epic proportions, Seven Day Queen was the sageuk that gripped you from the first minute and never let go. Despite knowing the fate of our star-crossed lovers at the outset, the story was so expertly crafted that each week, we were taken through the emotional ringer with tragic turns that made us ache and fleeting moments of unperturbed joy that made us smile through our tears, wishing the couple could safely be in love for just a second longer. The amalgam of deft direction, poignant writing, and riveting performances from Lee Dong-gun, Yeon Woo-jin, and Park Min-young resulted in a breathtaking and gut-wrenching tale that crescendoed in intensity amidst ever-growing stakes, all the while in keeping with the central characters’ inherent traits and motivations. Chae-kyung remained a dignified and strong heroine who chose to love courageously till the bitter end, and although she was only queen for seven days, in my eyes, she had all the trappings of a king what with her ironclad resolve and inner fortitude. Heartwarming and heartrending in the best ways possible, Seven Day Queen was an underrated gem of a sageuk that’s one for the books.
Honorable Mentions
Rebel: Thief Who Stole the People
BEST ACTOR
Jo Seung-woo (Forest of Secrets)
murasakimi: Though Forest of Secrets is truly an outstanding ensemble drama—aided by its near-perfect directing and laser-focused storytelling—Jo Seung-woo’s portrayal of unemotional, righteous, and brilliant Hwang Shi-mok was an acting masterclass in showing the subtle and understated transformation of an emotionally bereft character slowly open up to a trusted few. While we are accustomed in dramaland to constructing an entire plot of a drama around a main character’s personality differences, and how that inhibits or facilitates their ability to relate to others and/or do their jobs, Shi-mok’s interior emotional journey happened in large part in silent moments, as the tightly plotted murder mystery continued to barrel ahead at full-force. I can’t imagine the skillful execution of Shi-mok’s grace and quiet manner in more capable hands.
Honorable Mentions
Gong Yoo, The Lonely Shining Goblin
BEST ACTRESS
Park Eun-bin (Age of Youth 2)
dramallama: As Age of Youth’s “sparkle,” Song Ji-won (or “Ssong”) was delightfully brought to life by Park Eun-bin in both seasons, but it wasn’t until the second season that her portrayal turned thoughtful and poignant. Park Eun-bin’s commitment to Ji-won’s charmingly strange character continued, but she also sensitively transformed Ssong as a character investigating her haunting childhood, seamlessly juxtaposing her shameless and dramatic antics with a gradual recollection of her lost memories. When the traumatic memories came to light, she began to break, and Park Eun-bin was the crucial vessel in depicting this raw heartbreak, making apparent that the persona was inseparable from the actress. Park Eun-bin deepened Ssong’s layers and elevated the character, her cheer followed with tearful regret, and her pain often hidden behind a smile (and oversized sunglasses). Park Eun-bin straddled this dichotomy with a palpable fragility that made your heart break as you watched her spirit slowly fade. But just when you thought that the weight of misfortune had crushed her, she returned with a fierce conviction and vulnerable bravery that made her sparkle so beautifully that you couldn’t help but look at her with one of Sung-min’s lasting gazes, hopelessly in love with the symbiotic actress and character.
Honorable Mentions
Seo Ye-ji, Rescue Me
BEST SUPPORTING ACTOR
Lee Dong-wook (The Lonely Shining Goblin)
Helcat: I have always had a soft spot for Lee Dong-wook, because in a dramaland full of stiff—or even worse, boring—performances, I always know that he’ll bring the oddball to liven up my viewing experiences. And when a drama understands his off-kilter vibe and harnesses it, you hit magic, as we got in The Lonely Shining Goblin. Lee Dong-wook’s deadpan delivery and impeccable timing had me in stitches when the Reaper could so easily have been an irritating fool, and his amazing chemistry with every single cast member elevated any scene he was in. But what really cemented Lee’s performance was when we glimpsed the heart-wrenching backstory of the King, and the Reaper’s journey to accepting himself. When Lee Dong-wook cried, I cried.
We were spoiled with great acting throughout Goblin, but it takes talent to shine within that outstanding pack, and Lee Dong-wook pulled it off without even stealing thunder from his cast-mates. No wonder the Reaper was my favorite character (as well as the reason I stayed till the end, shhh).
Honorable Mentions
Lee Dong-gun, Seven Day Queen
BEST SUPPORTING ACTRESS
Honey Lee (Rebel: Thief Who Stole the People)
girlfriday: Honey Lee’s soulful, complex take on Joseon’s infamous femme fatale Jang Nok-soo was so achingly beautiful that I still get wistful when I think about her. Easily the highlight of her career and the most inspired performance in the chock-full ensemble drama, she made Nok-soo a fully fleshed out person with pain, dignity, and a beautiful spirit that couldn’t be masked when she poured her heart out in song. I was left breathless every time she sang and danced, like she was expressing a pain no one could fathom, and was so impressed by the gravitas she gave this character. She took a classic villain role and turned her into a woman we couldn’t help but love and respect, for the way she fearlessly survived and remained loyal to those she loved. At times maternal, at times beguiling, and then other times girlish and innocent, she was enchanting from beginning to end, and I never once questioned why everyone in Joseon, man or woman, fell in love with her.
Honorable Mentions
Esom, Because This Life Is Our First
BEST ENSEMBLE
Age of Youth 2
Sunny: Whenever a sequel is announced, there’s a feeling of apprehension: Will it capture the magic of the original while still presenting a fresh story? In Age of Youth 2’s case, the answer is yes and yes. The second installment of this heartfelt drama did not disappoint, and some may even argue that it was better than the first. The secret to success for this series was no doubt the characters, who were all so relatable despite their zany quirks. The girls experienced a lot of growth in the first season and it was wonderful to see how those events continued to affect them in the next. The tone may have been darker, and the story more focused as Park Eun-bin took center stage with a more somber storyline, but the charm never waned. Even as the dynamic shifted with the departure of one housemate and the arrival of another, the girls managed to forge a bond that held strong through encounters with crazed men with knives, dating drama, and heightened emotions that can only be felt in the midst of youth. These girls will forever hold a special place in our hearts.
BEST ROMANCE
Seven Day Queen
LollyPip: There’s a general consensus that for a romance to be good, the main couple should wind up happily in love, and most importantly together, by the end of their story. But Seven Day Queen set out to prove that two people can still share an epic, lifelong love, even if they never get to share their lives together. And it accomplished that perfectly, sweeping us up in a love story that taught us that happy endings are nice, but they aren’t required to make a story great, not when two people make the decision to be utterly committed to each other heart and soul. What made this drama so wonderful wasn’t that it gave us exactly what we wanted, but that it showed that a romance drama can break all of the “rules” and still be a gorgeous, heartwarming example of love at its finest. All of the separations, the longing, even the villain twisted by his own love never felt like constructs to play with our emotions and keep the lovers apart for drama’s sake, but in fact they were the love story, the very things that proved that the prince and his wife shared a love that was steadfast and constant until the very end.
Honorable Mentions
Because This Life Is Our First
BEST BROMANCE
Circle
Saya: Circle is a tale of twin brothers who keep losing each other, and who give their all to find each other again. With the show split across two timelines—complicated by aliens in the present and a bleak dystopia in the future—neither time nor circumstance was ever on their side, which meant a double-dose of pain for us. We were never in doubt of how much these boys longed for each other, and every separation was as harrowing as it was heartbreaking. Kim Kang-woo’s anguish at not even knowing which twin he was in the future timeline, and the subsequent struggle to piece together his identity, cut my heart in half. But it was Yeo Jin-gu who tore it to utter shreds, and though he’s been an established actor for a long time, for me, Circle was his real coming of age.
It’s really pretty simple when you come down to it: Circle IS its bromance, and “bromance” isn’t even a strong enough word when the love these brothers had for each other filled two worlds. If love has to hurt, it should hurt like this.
Honorable Mentions
Chicago Typewriter
BEST GIRLFRIENDS
Because This Life Is Our First
TeriYaki: There’s much to appreciate in Because This Life Is Our First, but near the top of that list was the friendship between Ji-ho, Su-ji, and Ho-rang. Friends since high school, the three girlfriends dealt with the disillusionment of life on the cusp of thirty, unsure of what their futures held, but always found comfort in each other. Traditional Ho-rang, rebel Su-ji, and secretly married Ji-ho shared tears and laughs while they helped each other discover who they’re meant to be and who they’re meant to share their lives with. The women weren’t competitive or jealous, there was no judgment (aside from a little nagging over bralessness), and the women simply counted on each other to provide what they couldn’t find anywhere else: unconditional acceptance. They were there to encourage one another to pursue their dreams when life’s challenges weighed them down, and that’s what made these girlfriends so memorable: They were each other’s ultimate cheerleaders in this game of life.
Honorable Mentions
Age of Youth 2
BEST CHARACTER
Reaper (The Lonely Shining Goblin)
abirdword: Friend, lover, adversary, lost soul, and king; it’s easy to see how Goblin’s Reaper stole so many of our hearts. He could have just been there for funny roommate hijinks and that would have been enough, but he was so much more, a high-concept character tethered to earth by his aching soul. Reaper embodied the line that the entire show walked, giving us expert deadpan humor in one moment and full-blown tragedy and redemption in the next. The link between the goblin and the reaper’s pasts never felt like dramaland cliche, but instead reinforced the show’s themes of fate and second chances. Reaper’s role was one of the most interesting parts of the mythology: sentenced to staff the way station for the dead, as a result of not appreciating the value of life itself. In his stylish tearoom where he escorted the newly dead to their afterlife, he was the oblivion tea to the goblin’s eternal memory. Those mournful eyes of Lee Dong-wook made us all root for a nameless reaper who just wanted to make his way back to a certain former queen.
Honorable Mentions
Goblin, The Lonely Shining Goblin
BREAKOUT: ACTOR
Woo Do-hwan (Rescue Me, Mad Dog)
tineybeanie: A 2017 without Woo Do-hwan would have been a drama desert with no oasis. He was one of few bright spots in my drama slump ennui. After first falling in love with him as the misunderstood rebel who became the drama’s hero in Rescue Me, I proceeded to fervently watch Mad Dog just to see him on my screen again, where sometimes his acting and his character’s plight moved me more than veteran Yoo Ji-tae’s. Admittedly, he’s still a bit green where lovelines are concerned, but I think we have a solid leading man in the making. Yang Se-jong was a close second, but the edge goes to Woo Do-hwan for his raw shining talent and powerful screen presence.
Honorable Mentions
Yang Se-jong, Duel, Temperature of Love
BREAKOUT: ACTRESS
Chae Soo-bin (Rebel: Thief Who Stole the People, Strongest Deliveryman)
Regals: What a busy year for Chae Soo-bin, who began the year stealing scenes in Rebel: Thief Who Stole the People in the extremely challenging role of Ga-ryung, plucky wife of outlaw Hong Gil-dong. Despite contending with several impressive performances from her castmates, she managed to stand out for herself as the feisty and pure young maiden who steals the heart of our hero. Her arc gave her ample opportunity to show off her range, from adorable innocent puppy to intense and fearlessly courageous heroine. Coupled with a poignant, heart-rending love story fueled by her electric chemistry with Yoon Kyun-sang, she captured the hearts of everyone with her exceptional performance. Not finished there, she then followed up with a spirited portrayal of the confrontational Dan-ah in Strongest Deliveryman. She again showed her ability to stir our hearts as the girl determined to escape the seemingly unbreakable hell of lower-class life before eventually discovering hope and breaking her biases along the way. No matter the role, she made us root for her success, and her rising stock in dramaland seems poised to continue its trajectory as she forges onward with her next role in I’m Not a Robot.
BIGGEST DISAPPOINTMENT
Revolutionary Love
javabeans: Okay, I’ll take some of the blame here, in that clearly I did not learn my lesson after this director crushed my hopes of another (heh) Oh Hae-young Again with the limp noodle that was Introverted Boss. What was I thinking, having hopes and expectations a second time? But I can’t take the blame for Revolutionary Love’s over-the-top attempt at comedy that often came off abrasive or tone-deaf rather than anywhere near funny, or for reducing Kang So-ra to a constantly angry character or making Siwon seem stupid. After seeing what he could do with a charming character with layers of feeling (She Was Pretty), it felt like a wet rag to the face to get a one-dimensional simpleton of a hero who made it tough to root for him. I’m not sure what kind of revolution they were going for, but their Byun Hyuk was a far cry from the one I wanted.
Honorable Mentions
Introverted Boss
BEST VILLAIN
Father Baek (Jo Sung-ha, Rescue Me)
mary: The best villains are ones that give you a sense of utter hopelessness, and Father Baek is one for the creepy books. The worst a casual observer could say about him was that he was crazy in an overzealous way. But he was not—he was perfectly rational. In fact, his logic was so sinister that he put aside outward pride and personal comforts in pursuit of his goal. Shit on him and he’d hand-wash your clothes. Call the cops and he’d open his church and make friends. Throw scalding tea in his face and he’d pour you a new cup while quoting scripture at you. Everything he did—from praying for your pretty soul to sheltering your broken family to letting you run around town crying for help—was calculated to make him more pious, and to make you the clinically insane kid who needed to be surrendered to him. No wonder our girl was hard-pressed to escape his creepy web. Because whom do you call for help when everyone thinks you’re a devil fighting God’s messenger? Father Baek was a master at blinding everyone with his fake charity, and I wouldn’t want to be the woke soul caught in his trap.
Honorable Mentions
Yeonsangun (Lee Dong-gun), Seven Day Queen
BIGGEST WASTE OF TALENT
Lee Jun-ki (Criminal Minds)
Laica: After the hot mess that was Moon Lovers: Scarlet Heart Ryeo, I think we were all anticipating Criminal Minds with tremendous optimism. It would remake a successful series with a proven formula, featuring an incredible cast and a chance to see Lee Jun-ki in the type of role he seems born for. Unfortunately, this show was bafflingly, crashingly disappointing, giving Lee Jun-ki neither a decent character arc nor any satisfying relationships with the other characters, subjecting him instead to a deplorable lack of screen time. The glimpse of initial chemistry we saw between him and Moon Chae-won deflated into a lackluster dynamic that went nowhere. Instead of giving each team member a defined role and showing us how they grew to work as a unit under Sohn Hyun-joo’s leadership, the drama focused on day players and gave the cast frustratingly little to do. I can only hope that this is the tail end of Oppa’s run of bad luck, that his next drama will finally give us the Epic Lee Jun-ki we’ve been waiting for, and that he’ll reunite with Moon Chae-won one day in a romance for the ages.
Honorable Mentions
Ha Ji-won, Hospital Ship
MOST INOFFENSIVELY MEDIOCRE
Reunited Worlds
SailorJumun: Reunited Worlds had everything it ever needed to be an enjoyable and charming drama. It had a tragic death, an intriguing fantasy element, and, best of all, the reunited friends/lovers trope. Yet the reunions, arguably the most important aspect of the show (it’s in the title, for god’s sake), didn’t pay off the way you wanted them to. Sure, the beginning was very warm and atmospheric, but it never developed beyond that: The hero inexplicably returned years after his death, and all the excitement and urgency that should’ve come with him wasn’t there. On the one hand, the show didn’t drag us down with an excess of aggravating twists or frustrating makjang nonsense. But on the other hand, nothing happened when we felt like something should’ve happened: The suspense did nothing, the romance did nothing. To be fair, the story may not have been cut out for a full-length drama, with far too many episodes and far too little plot, keeping the characters quite literally sitting around waiting for the big climax. But just because it wasn’t godawful doesn’t mean it was any good; it was just yet another promising setup wasted with poor execution.
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1 C
December 29, 2017 at 3:13 AM
No Go Back Couple/Jang Na Ra?
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zitszack
December 29, 2017 at 3:38 AM
exactly that's what i thought
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gadis
December 29, 2017 at 4:56 AM
Best heartwarming family drama: Go Back Spouses
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dukseonnoona
December 29, 2017 at 7:21 AM
I’ll have to add SLS of the Year and Mom of the Year awards for Go Back Spouses. 😂😂😂
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Yuxilee
December 30, 2017 at 4:01 AM
For me it's Father is Strange
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xiao jingyan
December 29, 2017 at 5:32 AM
that one is crying fest, a drama that gets better every episode.
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PYC
December 29, 2017 at 7:42 AM
Best mom of the year, honorable mention for best girlfriends, and the list goes on.
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Chandler
December 29, 2017 at 8:29 AM
Yeah, I was a tad bummed to see her and that show not included at all. Lol, if I had it my way that show would win everything. It even had a slight edge over BTLIOF for me, in writing, directing, acting etc. I just thought the directing in that show was so clever, the writing, so poignant and funny, and the performances were undoubtedly some of the best this year.
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Samurai
December 29, 2017 at 10:24 AM
I agree quite a lot. GBS just hit all the spots for me and made me laugh, cry and feel with the character like no ither drama did at that time.
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clover
December 29, 2017 at 11:31 AM
Completely agree with you. BTIOFL was nice, but it didn't bring me the emotion that GBS did. I literally cried every time Jang Nara did.
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swoosiederkins
December 29, 2017 at 11:07 AM
While I can't say that the show should win everything (I haven't seen a lot of these dramas lol), I do agree that overall I enjoyed it more than BTLIOF. While BTLIOF was a lovely drama, for some reason it never moved me to tears or laughter the way Go Back Spouses did. (I think we may be in the minority though).
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paroles
December 29, 2017 at 1:33 PM
I agree that at the very least it has better writing than BTLIOF, but the drama isn't very popular in the international community so perhaps they haven't watched it.
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mary
December 29, 2017 at 1:49 PM
OR the middleground: some of us watched it, it just didn't win in the internal Editors Picks voting :)
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gadis
December 29, 2017 at 2:24 PM
Agreed with what you said. BTLIOF is good and restrospective, but it's all in the brain. While GBS is all about heart. It made me feel without needing to think about it, and that makes it a great drama in my book.
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PYC
December 30, 2017 at 12:02 AM
GBC wins in the heart department, hands down in 2017! Every emotion and interaction is a reflection of real life with top notch writing, directing, acting and music. It is not only a time travel drama done well but takes us viewers down the memory lane to re-visit and re-assess our life journey leading to the sage conclusion of treasuring the present. There are two best dramas to me this year: Forest of Secrets which is the best of best dramas with no contest and Go Back Couple as a gem that will stand the test of time.
BTLIOF is a likeable drama but occasionally borders pretentious, making its central premise quite hollow in my own view. Perhaps what irks me most is its different narrative styles for the main couple and the others, turning it into a schizo drama. In the end, I like its treatment of the other couples so much better than the JH-SH pair.
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coolbeans
December 30, 2017 at 8:27 PM
Forest of Secrets and GBC were two of my favorite 2017 dramas too! Add Chicago Typewriter to that list as well. Agree with your last paragraph as well.
2 kanzcech
December 29, 2017 at 3:18 AM
I agree with everything on the list.
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anayahs
December 29, 2017 at 3:30 AM
Same, except maybe I'd personally keep Chief Kim for Best Comedy.
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⭐ Sera The Ms Temper ⭐
December 29, 2017 at 4:23 AM
Agree.
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whoopeeyoo
December 29, 2017 at 4:32 AM
Ditto. SWDBS got me laughing, but only for the first few episodes. After a time, the gangsters were taking too much screentime they weren't funny anymore. Unlike Chief Kim where it was just laughter and amusement all around. Glad it still got a mention though.
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azzo
December 29, 2017 at 4:49 AM
YES! Chief Kim is the best comedy of the year for me! I still go back and re-watch the episodes when i'm feeling down, never fails to make me laugh!
whoopeeyoo
December 29, 2017 at 4:56 AM
@azzo1 I do that too! And it still surprises me every time that it ALWAYS makes me laugh.
⭐ Sera The Ms Temper ⭐
December 29, 2017 at 5:22 AM
Chief Kim probably will remain as my fav comedy drama forever!
razzledazzle
December 29, 2017 at 5:38 AM
🖐🏻 Agree! SWDBS was hard to watch after awhile, let alone laugh. Chief Kim was just comedy done right.
Spi
December 29, 2017 at 10:51 AM
I did not watch Chief Kim but SWBDS was definitely not funny to me. It was too corny and at times offensive. The only thing that drama kept me watching was the cute couple, but then it was so smooth to the point, it appears to me the couple was just so good at playing in love but I did not really feel that they were actually in love.
Lord Cobol (Kdramas, like water, flow downhill)
December 29, 2017 at 4:59 PM
Chief Kim was FAR more consistent, but Strong Woman was better on its good days. Agree with rating Strong Woman best.
kabsy
December 29, 2017 at 4:56 AM
Completely agree
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mary
December 29, 2017 at 5:10 AM
Me too :3
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wakimary
December 29, 2017 at 5:39 AM
same!
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Carolina
December 29, 2017 at 6:34 AM
Same. I loved Chief Kim.
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Ginger
December 29, 2017 at 8:42 AM
I'd vote Chief Kim for Best Comedy too.
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lotus
December 29, 2017 at 8:57 AM
Yes. I support this personal claim. Chief Kim delivered 👍👍👍
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Jessi Bear
December 29, 2017 at 9:42 AM
Yes yes yes! while repeated gags in Chief Kim had me rofling over and over, SWDBS got pretty old pretty quickly. I think if SWDBS should win anything it should be "Most Badass Heroine" or if there was an award for "drama that looked the most fun to film" ahahaha
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mintkiri
December 29, 2017 at 1:13 PM
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poofmagk
December 29, 2017 at 2:40 PM
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gerry13
December 29, 2017 at 6:12 PM
I watched both and Chief Kim is the better drama
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Maryse
December 30, 2017 at 1:58 PM
And SWDBS had way too many poop jokes
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mintful
December 31, 2017 at 7:14 PM
Same, Chief Kim was a fun ride from beginning to end 💕
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Saarthak
January 2, 2018 at 8:10 AM
Totally Agree
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Chiisan
December 30, 2017 at 2:12 PM
I came here just to make sure Forest of Secrets is the Best Drama.
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Meri
December 31, 2017 at 2:09 AM
me too :)
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3 greenfields
December 29, 2017 at 3:35 AM
My favorite categories are 'Biggest Waste of Talent' and 'Most Inoffensively Mediocre'. Hahahaha can we have more of these funny ones next year? :D
Also to add my own:
'Best Cameo' - Jo Jung Suk, Legend of the Blue Sea (it counts as a 2017 drama right? Like Goblin)'
'Best Use of the 'Truck of Doom' ' - Falsify (the catalyst for the whole show!)
'Best Great Beginning-Bad Ending Award' - Black (from Beanie comments)
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greenfields
December 29, 2017 at 3:40 AM
'Best Beginning-Disappointing Middle-Great Ending' - Temperature of Love (again from comments, >_< I gave up in the disappointing middle)
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하데스
December 29, 2017 at 5:43 AM
Hmmm...I wouldn't say Temperature of Love had a great ending, more like a 'thank the drama gods you had some mercy on us' ending. That show could have easily been drama of the year for me had it not gone so stupid crazy from the middle. I would say that that drama would be my most disappointing of the year.
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lotus
December 29, 2017 at 9:01 AM
"That show could have easily been drama of the year for me."
Same. The first eight to ten episodes were so, so, darn good and then draggy scenes started to appear and just... wHYYYYY ;;
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lotus
December 29, 2017 at 9:04 AM
I stuck to it though. It took me weeks to watch the last four episodes but I did finish it. I needed closure with Yang Se-jong's character.
I'm glad he got honourable mentions in the breakout actor category <3
kanzcech
December 30, 2017 at 1:29 AM
Same... It could have been one of best dramas of the year.
Alas the pointless conflicts dragged down the whole show.
하데스
December 29, 2017 at 6:53 PM
@chakhanseupeu I'm so looking forward to whatever Yang Se-jong does in the future.
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liquidsoap
December 29, 2017 at 3:49 AM
Change 'Truck of doom' for 'Most deadly crosswalk', gives us more dramas to pick from :D I nominate WYWS, there were So Many Ways To Die there :D
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greenfields
December 29, 2017 at 3:58 AM
Done! ^^ I spent the entire drama worried for Woo Tak's survival, right from his death at a crosswalk in the beginning of the drama. Nevermind that Jae Chan was once in danger at a crosswalk too, and Hong Joo spent many moments at crosswalks.
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liquidsoap
December 29, 2017 at 4:01 AM
at this point every kdrama character should be encouraged to jaywaylk, it's much safer :D
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Grapes
December 29, 2017 at 4:16 AM
There's a new opponent for the truck of doom at the crosswalk it's the motorcycle of doom it's breakout appearance was in Black Knight, although I think it needs more performance improvement because it was taken out easily by a flying pan from the heroine.
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greenfields
December 29, 2017 at 4:23 AM
LOL Now that you mention it ... Don't forget the Car of Doom. It got Yeo Jin Goo twice this year! (though to be fair to Car, Yeo Jin Goo was only at a crosswalk one of those times)
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Nutini
December 29, 2017 at 4:33 AM
So true, lol, every time a hero/heroine start crossing the road, especially in slow motion, I get anxiety issues
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하데스
December 29, 2017 at 5:45 AM
Speaking of so many ways to die, I present Live Up to Your Name.
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vamvinco
December 29, 2017 at 6:13 AM
LOL. For 'Best Use of the 'Truck of Doom' I would like to nominate JinGu's drama Untouchable. They need two trucks of doom to kill the hero's wife (She successfully dodge the first one, but before she can catch her breath the second truck of doom struck her at intersection). That's commitment and hardwork! (By the trucks, of course)
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whoopeeyoo
December 29, 2017 at 7:46 AM
ohmygod is this for real???? HAHAHA
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vamvinco
December 29, 2017 at 8:02 AM
Very real! I know the drama want me to be shocked or sad because she died. Only I can't help but laugh because it's so extra! 😂
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whoopeeyoo
December 29, 2017 at 9:38 PM
I haven't seen it but I'm already laughing. Writers! That's not how you do ohnoshegonnadie-ohshedodgedityessheisntgonnadie-ohshedies
HAHAHAHA
greenfields
December 29, 2017 at 7:56 AM
Hahaha I feel the need to watch just this scene! Ridiculous! Go Truck! Fighting!
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kd6606
December 29, 2017 at 6:35 PM
How about adding:
Best Non-sequitor Thoughts Invading Emotional Moments-- Reunited world
Most Food Left on Tables - well, too many to name...
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greenfields
December 29, 2017 at 11:36 PM
Bwahahahaha! I particularly love 'Most food left on tables'. ;D It's blasphemy!!! Junho is the only one not guilty of this!
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Chiisan
January 4, 2018 at 12:35 PM
Biggest Waste of Talent - I don't necessarily agree with Ha Jiwon, Hospital Ship. That's assuming she's talented in this genre. Ha Jiwon's acting is very polarizing - she's good in some projects and awful in others.
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MikeyD signed up
February 6, 2018 at 8:36 PM
I remember tuning in to see 'Reunited Worlds' and feeling they had written standard K-drama tropes on slips of paper and randomly pulled them out of a hat to loosely create the story. Magical realism time travel high school restaurant chef...
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4 azzo
December 29, 2017 at 3:35 AM
I'm just so glad that best character went to Reaper beacuse to me he was the best thing in Goblin, I mean don't get me wrong, I did love the show but part of it was only because of Sunny/Reaper tragic love story!
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dukseonnoona
December 29, 2017 at 7:25 AM
AGREED. I only stayed until the end for Sunny and Reaper. 😍😊
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5 limechilli
December 29, 2017 at 3:38 AM
So glad to see Chae Soo Bin there. I really enjoyed her performance in Rebel. I thought it would be hard for her character to become the love of Hong Gil Dong after his love with Honey Lee, but she really made Ga-Ryung into an amazing character that you can imagine can shake the heart of the legendary Hong Gil Dong. Have had her on my radar since she made me hate her in Sassy Go Go! Onwards and upwards with the gorgeous Robot Ji-Ah/Aji3 indeed!
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Cloggie
December 29, 2017 at 6:16 AM
I liked her in Strongest Deliveryman, but I think she's really great in I'm Not A Robot. It's nice to see someone go from strength to strength
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dukseonnoona
December 29, 2017 at 7:27 AM
And I just realized Chae Soo-bin has been working non-stop this year. Three leading roles in a drama for a year, just wow! I soooo love her! ❤️
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DoubleFault
December 29, 2017 at 7:39 AM
CSB has been great in all of the dramas that I have seen her in (Sassy Go Go, If We Were A Season, I'm Not A Robot) and had amazing chemistry with all of the leading men that she was paired with. I might as well start watching Rebel and Strongest Deliveryman next.
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teacakes
December 29, 2017 at 8:26 AM
I can't give a thumbs up but I want to say how much I agree with this comment. She's so good, I hope her rise continues because I loved her in all her dramas this year and she's so good in INAR. This is greedy but I hope she does dramas in 2018 too and that she's successful.
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byeol
December 29, 2017 at 9:01 AM
Yes! Her character in Sassy Go Go is what made me look forward to what more she can offer then Rebel happened and she made me one of her fan. Watched Strongest Deliveryman because of her. And now, she is showing us more through Aji-3/Pretender Aji-3/ Jo Ji ah in I'm not A Robot. She doesn't disappoint! There's only a few good actress of her age, I'm glad she's gaining recognition she deserves.
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Ginger
December 29, 2017 at 9:05 AM
Chae Soo Bin won me over by her cameo at the end of Shopping King Louis. I only found her so so in Sassy Go Go and Moonlight. Now I love her performance in all her latest dramas.
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Lord Cobol (Kdramas, like water, flow downhill)
December 29, 2017 at 9:20 AM
First time I saw her was her cameo near the end of Shopping King Louie. You have to nail it to get on my radar from such a short appearance. After Rebel, Deliveryman & Robot I'm especially impressed by her in Robot. (Maybe next she can play a rebel delivery robot?)
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Lord Cobol (Kdramas, like water, flow downhill)
December 29, 2017 at 5:07 PM
Wow! These upvotes got me promoted to Goblin's Underpants!! (Time to check my underwear?)
PS: I decided to get a head start on my New Year's Eve soju because I don't need to do anything tonight or tomorrow.
FWIW, if you ever wonder wether alcohol impares you, try playing any computer game -- in my case I know I'm being sloppy but I'm sloppy anyway. Very sloppy. One bottle of soju seems to be my (more than my limit).
PPS: if drunk-podcasting is OK for the overlords, drunk-posting must be ok too (?)
PPSP: guess I'm a talkative drunk poster.
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teacakes
December 29, 2017 at 12:06 PM
It helps that she has great chemistry with every single one of her leading men up to now. But she has great chemistry with costars in general, she even had it with Eunji in Sassy Go Go and also with Ji Soo though their characters had fewer interactions and hated each other, I just kept wanting them to interact at all.
I'm personally waiting to see her paired up with male breakout Woo Do Hwan or even aim a little higher and see what she'll look like as an OTP with her Moonlight Drawn by Clouds costar Park Bo Gum.
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limechilli
December 30, 2017 at 3:01 AM
IKR, I wanted her to interact with Ji Soo even though I didn't think they could end up together! OMG, CSB and Woo Do Hwan!!!!
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alasecond
December 29, 2017 at 12:49 PM
i saw her first on SNL.. and she parodies this whole oppa thing.. and she was sooooo good..
i knew it since then she is super talented actress...
then followed up with sassy go go and INAR
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6 WishfulToki
December 29, 2017 at 3:38 AM
Long live Reaper!
Bravo Honey Lee!
For Seven Day Queen as 'best romance', strangely enough, I agree regarding the child actors. They were magnificent.
Thanks for this list. I guess I should try Forest of Secrets again... I only watched episode 1 and didn't feel compelled to continue.
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liquidsoap
December 29, 2017 at 3:55 AM
I agree that the child actors deserve the spotlight, but in the end the way they put Being Alive before Dying Tragically in Love was pretty fresh and heart-wrenchingly beautiful.
TBH I was disgusted by the prince's actions for most of the drama (that first kiss was... ew, rapey). If he wasn't such a dear for her in their childhood, she would never have fallen for him.
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whoopeeyoo
December 29, 2017 at 4:35 AM
As someone who loves Forest of Secrets, I admit that the first episode didn't really grip me too. But I continued because I wanted to see if the hype was warranted since it only gained traction among beanies after the first couple of episodes. Only to realize after a couple of eps that I just want to get to the bottom of the show and I don't care about the hype anymore. Haha! Hope you get around to it!
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하데스
December 29, 2017 at 5:50 AM
Forest of Secrets is worth it. It's an example of how good overall a K-Drama can be.
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coolbeans
December 29, 2017 at 9:34 AM
Forest of Secrets - I checked it out because I was in a slump and it was on Netflix. Just finished it this past week and it's now my #1 drama. It's THAT good. Took me for one helluva ride. It truly lived up to the hype!
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Tom
December 29, 2017 at 11:03 PM
@WishfulToki
Don't feel compelled to like a drama...your own tastes are important...
I was hooked from ep01 so it was an intense ride all the way through for me. I could feel the ooze just under the surface from the 1st week so the drama was watching is seep to the surface and seeing if our protagonist duo could survive (let alone win out).
The tension ratchet up slowly...so you need to let it build from its ordinary beginnings...This is a drama you have to let the characters reveal themselves...(much like in real life you never know if your friend is your ally or enemy in disguise)
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7 kabsy
December 29, 2017 at 3:39 AM
Yay Grim Reaper, Seven Day Queen, Because this is my first life, Secret Forest, Age of Youth 2!!!!
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kabsy
December 29, 2017 at 5:00 AM
But no Live up to your name, Go Back Couple, Avengers Social Club (probably because it was not recapped), Chief Kim was better than SWDBS (I wish it had been written better)....
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8 liquidsoap
December 29, 2017 at 3:44 AM
Really? Strong Woman for best comedy? I'd sooner see it in best romance, I found the gags repetative at best and offensively unfunny at worst.
Personally I'd probably choose AOY2 for its first episode, but imo it was pretty decent with funny stuff until the Plot happened.
Not a fan of most of the winners but I loved reading about your picks anyway 💘
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하데스
December 29, 2017 at 5:52 AM
Agreed--minus the romance part actually.
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liquidsoap
December 29, 2017 at 6:31 AM
oh for me the best romance was in Chicago Typewriter no contest. SWDBS had a pretty great villain but I don't get the hype. I know a lot of beanies liked it though 😊
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alasecond
December 29, 2017 at 12:52 PM
yup think the same.. it was a super hyped drama.. and probably garnered initial set of ratings because of PBY...
that show had nothing to offer except for the lead pair who are acknowledged good actors..everything else was nonsensical and ridiculous
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Samurai
December 29, 2017 at 10:32 AM
Same here about the humor in SWDBS. Tasteless and a major turn-off.
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celine
December 29, 2017 at 6:36 AM
I agree with your sentiment about SWDBS and the comedy there. Dropped it fast.
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liquidsoap
December 29, 2017 at 10:40 AM
I mean one of the gags involved actual domestic violence? so I can't say I blame you
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coolbeans
December 29, 2017 at 9:35 AM
100% agree. Was shocked to see it won Best Comedy over Chief Kim.
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boomboompow
January 4, 2018 at 1:49 PM
I've had a rough year and Buamdong Revenge Club and The Best Hit gave me more laugh than Strong Woman DBS. Not to say that SWDBS isn't funny, but it fell flat midway to the end.
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MikeyD signed up
February 6, 2018 at 8:42 PM
Strong Woman was bipolar. The funny bits were very funny indeed but, OMG, the serial kidnapper subplot seemed to have come from an entirely different series. Word of advice - don't put scene of beating women with lead pipes into comedies.
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9 Orl
December 29, 2017 at 3:49 AM
I was totally expecting it but still, I'm sad that Buamdong Revenge Social Club was not mentioned. This drama was so good at every level and very satisfying but it was not heavily promoted so nobody watched it...
An other drama I really liked was Lookout, the acting and directing was amazing (despite the rushed ending)
I think Reaper as the best character is a little bit exaggerated (even though he was a more interesting character than Goblin overall). His character writing and development was a bit messy sometimes.
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하데스
December 29, 2017 at 5:55 AM
Avengers Social Club was awesome. It had it's issues though, mainly with how long it took them to get comeuppance.
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Orl
December 29, 2017 at 7:07 AM
I didn't see that as a problem because the scenario was well structured (it was never too slow or too fast), and in the character's situation, it was obviously going to be hard getting their revenge. Because of all their hardships, it was even more satisfying (for me at least) to see them achieve it (and it was not too long either like those crazy revenge drama when they spend 20+ episodes to get things done and you don't even remember why at the end)
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하데스
December 29, 2017 at 7:42 AM
I’m happy it was 12 eps and not 16. I guess I should have said that the suffering slightly draw out. Don’t get me wrong, I loved the emotional side of it, but it was just slightly draw out. And I wished the half sister got her due, but oh well.
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Orl
December 29, 2017 at 8:05 AM
I understand what you mean. I also think the ending was not perfect in some aspects (like I thought stepson/stepmom would carry on their unique relationship, whether in a romantic way (ok i'm a hopeless shipper of them let's face it) or in a more brother/sister way, or friendly way, or anything else than the rushed ending we got of those two). But anyway the rest of the drama was strong enough to love it as a whole :)
하데스
December 29, 2017 at 8:21 AM
I really really really wanted a mother/son realtionship here. Sigh.
10 Chukahae (축하해)
December 29, 2017 at 3:57 AM
Omo . . . Forest of Secrets for insert opening soundtrack Best Drama. 😊
Wish I could express my feeling with Forest of Secrets' gifs in this thread. 😁
I knew that the drama had quite a number of following among beanies but I'm not sure that it's popular among our editors to be voted as Best Drama. Chukahae Forest of Secrets. Chukahae to other winners as well.
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kiara
December 29, 2017 at 6:12 AM
I'd switched Yoo Jae-myung (Lee Chang-joon) with
Lee Dong-wook as best supporting actor.
Yoo Jae-myung's character and quality of his acting was my favorite.
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⭐ Sera The Ms Temper ⭐
December 29, 2017 at 6:43 AM
Heolll.. How. can.I.forget.him!!!!
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PYC
December 29, 2017 at 7:48 AM
Totally agree that Yoo Jae-myung in FOS should be best supporting actor or best villain. His was one of the most unforgettable performances in 2017.
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Yuyuu, The Drama Queen
December 29, 2017 at 10:44 AM
Yes, I'd also give him the Best Villain award. Never seen such a nuanced villain as him
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coolbeans
December 29, 2017 at 9:37 AM
YES!!! Yoo Jae Myung made me cry! What a complex and beautifully written character. I'm going to watch anything he's in from now on. Whoever the casting director is for Forest of Secrets needs a standing ovation for his/her choices. I loved the entire cast.
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Tom
December 29, 2017 at 11:49 PM
@coolbeans
+1
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Chukahae (축하해)
December 30, 2017 at 8:04 PM
Agree. He definitely got his own arc in the finale and did justice to it. The way he portrayed his character and his ability to bring out the pathos behind his story were really compelling.
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11 gadis
December 29, 2017 at 4:05 AM
Reading this post, I realized that only 2 of my fave dramas this year made to the editor's pick: Forest of Secrets and Age of Youth 2. But since many other beanies has talked about it in their "2017 Year in Review", I'm content with that.
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12 lezah
December 29, 2017 at 4:13 AM
Grim Reaper!
I'll never forget the countless hours spent rewatching his scenes in Goblin, as well as the two special episodes just so I could get more of him, his black hat, and those soulful eyes. Indeed, every time he cried, I cried.
I am surprised that SWDBS won best comedy because I couldn't stand any of Boss Tak/random schoolboys' scenes (even though I loved the show), and I am eagerly waiting Hyung-sik's new projects. I kind of wish Buamdong had been on this list, because it gave me its fair share of laughs and awws.
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13 CoffeeCat
December 29, 2017 at 4:17 AM
Forest of Secrets, Yasssss!!!! There was no other drama this year that was this tightly plotted, amazingly acted and did not feel repetitive despite having a familiar premise. Jo Seung Woo was brilliant and yes, more deserving than Gong Yoo.
So, I pretty much agreed with everything on this list except for the ones I have yet to see (Seven Day Queen, Age of Youth 1&2). Interesting to see there was no underrated (or overrated) category this year. Is it the generally dismal condition of ratings nowadays?
Also, where are the picks for best and worst mane of glory? I really loved those :/ And Most and Least Acting?
Still, I have hope for next year. Dramagods, please do not disappoint. Please. Rescue me from drama slumps. Bring back the feelss...
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WishfulToki
December 29, 2017 at 5:48 AM
Haha, here's my vote for Best Mane of Glory: Yoo Ah In (Chicago Typewriter)
Honorable mention: Park Hyung Sik (Hwarang)
Worst Mane of Glory: congratulations, Hwarang has it too.
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⭐ Sera The Ms Temper ⭐
December 29, 2017 at 6:41 AM
Your comments crack me up!
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CoffeeCat
December 29, 2017 at 6:55 AM
Oh my God, yes! Yoo Ah In was glorious😍 And Hwarang ruined saeguk style for me forever 😑
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14 growingbeautifully
December 29, 2017 at 4:21 AM
Thank you dear DB Staff for a good solid and succinct review.
If there were a category for Great Show with (unexpected) Bittersweet Aftertaste, I'd vote for Because This Life is Our First. I was wowed by this show from the beginning, swept up in the minutiae of each character's (mostly the OTP's) every little act, their comings and goings and conversations. It was beautiful in most every way a show could be, the tropes were upended superbly, the romance was blossoming well and the feels were right, until the feels became weird.
I wanted to root for it until the very end and say I loved the relationship and how great their give-and-take was, but to my chagrin, I found I could not. The one main character whom I was rooting for all the way, somehow, was not quite what I'd taken her to be: strong but yielding, self-contained yet willing to be open, receiving and giving freely. Was that what she was made out to be or did I imagine it all?
I wondered instead if the excellent writing had hidden a selfish, manipulative, ego centric character in one who appeared sweet and hopeful. I could accept a flawed character but there needed to be more that was good in her, to make me feel that she deserved such a loving man. The man, on the other hand, was truly as he showed himself to be. He gave and loved sincerely, he was upfront and true. I felt sadly mistaken in her character, and as if I had match-made them in RL, I felt regret and could not get behind the relationship as I'd wanted to. (My fault for wrong expectations?)
Perhaps the 16 episodes were not enough to go where the show was supposed to. There might have been more developments to bring the relationship to a more even keel, and balanced out a little more for drama-ending satisfaction. Or maybe I'm wrong and the writer wanted to leave us (if we noticed anything amiss) on a strange, unsatisfactory note.
This does not however detract from the fact that it was a great drama, exceptionally well written and wonderfully peopled. It was perhaps a coming together of 2 characters in a relationship that could well be and probably is true-to-life, but it was not one that filled my heart with the warm fuzzies.
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WishfulToki
December 29, 2017 at 6:05 AM
I thought with time and a rewatch the bitter aftertaste would dissipate - like I had missed something with all the clever writing and got the wrong impression of the final two episodes. But no, your post sums up how I still feel about BTIOFL.
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growingbeautifully
December 29, 2017 at 6:19 AM
Thanks WishfulToki! Your comment validates what I feel. I've been feeling so sad about not being able to love the whole OTP thing. I was re-watching it at first so much and enjoying everything. But on going back and thinking it through, again, I find that I sadly have to concede that it was not the story that I expected.
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Tom
December 29, 2017 at 11:58 PM
@growingbeautifully
Just curious, for BTLIOF did you see each new episode's events as:
.....ADDITIVE (just add a new event on to the previous-but they didn't affect your reading of past events) or
.....RE-CONTEXTUAL(new events rewrote what we knew about previous events)?
Also, did you continue that same rule for the last 2 episodes?
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growingbeautifully
December 30, 2017 at 6:31 AM
@Tom Glad to read ya. In truth, it was your comments that got me re-thinking a lot about this show.
To begin with, I was happy to go along for the ride. I did not notice too much that the way Ji Ho was portrayed was saying something that was negative about her character. To answer your question, I began by just accepting scenes and events in an additive way. I did start to wonder a bit but did not analyse things like why Ji Ho 'could not' see the cat's collar. In the last 2 episodes, I still wanted to think well of her decisions (and this is where I came to think there must have been something amazing in the writing that hid things in plain sight, so that I could have missed the clues), but something felt lacking in her return and their marriage. So I guess I continued the same way into the end although feeling dissatisfied and not being sure why at that point.
On reading more comments of yours and others, I did a re-look/re-think and as you say scenes and meanings became re-contextualised. I guess I have to applaud the writer and the whole execution of the show that never actually, deliberately misled us (the way I felt that Ji Ho may have done to Se Hee) but left it all out there for us to see. We could either enjoy the main OTP part of the show as a typical drama-mance ie an expected sweet coming together of 2 lonely people, or find ourselves faced with truer than ever, closer-to-life relationships where not all things are sweet or equal but couples get together anyway.
Tom
December 30, 2017 at 7:26 AM
@growingbeautifully
Thanks. It's nice to see someone else had read my thoughts...they were so late I thought most would have missed them.
I don't know if I should be happy to have had some insight to offer, or offer a shy apology for throwing a spanner in your drama thoughts....
We viewers are not used to re-contextural drama structures....sure they are funky and cool with their unexpected reveals. But we are simple creatures, we like a simple additive narrative...its easier to follow.
This is the rub for BTIOFL. Our preference for additive means when a drama has a re-contextual structure, we almost don't realise there are new rules unless each point is shown to us. We also tend to naturally want to revert to the simpler additive structure...particularly when we are no longer compelled to re-contextualise...like the end episodes or when what we find is uncomfortable.
The questions for each of us are:
Did the drama follow its own rules to the end. (not the rules we would like...but its rules)?
Did we test the drama by its rules (even at the very end)?
Then...what did we think of it as a drama....
I am always happy for people to have a different reading of the drama or see a different underlying structure.
All I can offer is my thoughts and the process of arriving at them....hoping to add to the discussion.
P.S. My BTLIOF post were an outcome of discussions with many beanies and I am so thankful for the community as a place to discuss ideas an stretch how I appreciate dramas.
growingbeautifully
December 30, 2017 at 8:42 AM
@Tom
- Oh, do be happy by all means 😆. I know that not all readers will be happy to accept a different take on what was taken for granted and which gratified them, only to find that the good feels may have been misplaced. I was in shock, myself, but being able to analyse what we spend so many hours on and figuring out what makes them work or doesn't is part of the charm of being here. And there's this thing about self-discovery and discovering more of the craft of show-making or being more aware of how our emotions are (dare I say) manipulated by show-makers, that I actually really enjoy.
As to your question on the drama rules, yes and yes, more so because you asked and I felt compelled to get an answer. I feel that in Ep 16, what Ji Ho said to others or what was revealed in voiceovers, was an attempt to keep to its rules. It may have wanted us to re-contextualise the previous scenes of how she broke off with Se Hee. We were, I guess to think that based on those voiceovers, she did it out of love or because she had a greater good in mind, so that we'd 'forgive' her. However once I started seeing through to this rule, it failed to have that effect (the desired effect?). As long as I was not aware that the show meant for me to re-contextualise, I did so happily in order to rationalise Ji Ho's behaviour. But when I was confronted with the possibility that this was a ploy to re-direct my analyses, I refused to play ball. Or, again, maybe that's precisely what show wanted us to do.
One of the great points the show brought up on love vs selfishness was the point about whom the subject of one's thoughts were. So many times references were made to things being tried for the first time, or out of curiosity and that some things were experimental. The question then is, for whose benefit was that trial. Who decided to run the experiment and who was/were the object(s) being experimented on.
growingbeautifully
December 30, 2017 at 8:42 AM
...continuing ...
What did I think of it as a drama? Daring and risky but at the same time rather good fun to go back and re-analyse. It was well done, although just watching it did not give the warm satisfaction as expected. I do believe as you mentioned, that it should have been or might have been planned to be much longer. The references to The Graduate were sadly, left quite unaddressed, and I felt that they had a comment to make with regard to on-the-spur-of-the-moment actions, or on sensible motivations or lack thereof. With an added episode or two that could have allowed us to re-contextualise episodes 15-16, we might have had an even better show.
BTW, I must thank you for the references to Every Frame a Painting. I cannot say that I can understand everything that Tony talks about, but it has certainly opened my eyes (and ears) to look beyond. 😁
Kasumi
December 29, 2017 at 6:42 AM
While my biggest pet peeve was the reason See-Hee was shown as being emotionless, I completely agree with your assessment of the heroine. See-Hee’s love and emotions were straightforward and sincere. Jiho’s were definitely not! I was so disappointed in her character development.
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mmmmm
December 29, 2017 at 7:12 AM
This one is hyped among Beanies so I gave it a try. I finished all 16 episodes and found that it was indeed a nice drama. I love those little moments which compelled me to think retrospectively about my life in general.. (room 19 of my own? every person comes together with him his whole life), I didn't feel that much love for our lovely OTP. Instead, I think that the female lead seems to be quite selfish.. actually from the very beginning to the end.. I kinda understand her during in the beginning of the show since they kinda agreed that they were gonna make a marriage contract so no love should be expected whatsoever.. but she did fall for him yet she left him like that because he didn't show her enough emotions? That's quite mean for me... and when she saw him cry like a baby she just decided that she was gonna stay with him? Should it be so easy like that? .. hmm..
Though the overall vibe of this show is good and deserves all the praises it got.. I wasn't quite satisfied with the ending for Ho-rang and her boyfriend. I think the show should have let their relationship continue in a realistic way.. instead of wrapping everything up and put a little bow on it like this.
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Nutini
December 29, 2017 at 7:30 AM
I was so disappointed in last two eps
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nico8
December 29, 2017 at 10:19 AM
@growingbeautifully Oh wow I'm glad someone understands my beef with Ji-ho!! I'll concede that best writing could go to BLIOF, if only for the first 3/4ths of the drama. Ji-ho stopped making sense to me somewhere along the way and totally ruined the main OTP for me. But also...
@Kasumi I agree with you on Se-hee. Probably because I watched NigeHaji before this, Lee Min-ki's portrayal of that kind of character just didn't appeal to me. He straight-up appeared mean to me at first, and not just emotionless (when he actually really isn't??). While Hoshino Gen really got the whole emotionless-because-he's-not-good-with-people thing across really well, and even made the character relatable.
(I really can't separate BTLIOF from NigeHaji sorry haha mostly because I still think NigeHaji did it better)
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alua
December 29, 2017 at 10:32 AM
It was a good drama (perhaps more than good, but I can't quite say "great") – but it's not one I would give "best writing" too – not with last two episodes, and also some earlier odd-ball twists (café boy, who may have turned out nice in the end, but his earlier scenes just felt out-of-sync with the rest of the drama). Ultimately, it seemed liked a drama that wanted to be slice-of-life and had a lot of that, but introduced some sidestories and coincidences didn't really mesh with that.
That's not "best writing" in my book... that would be "Secret Forest", which know what it was doing, beginning to end.
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mylatteday
January 1, 2018 at 10:12 PM
Best writing goes to Secret of Forest IMO. Tight pace and for once ... no filler scene.
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15 mamogatari
December 29, 2017 at 4:22 AM
Totally agree with Jo Seung Woo as best lead performance. His character is emotionless but throughout the show he performed those tiny subtle emotions that made him felt like a lonely, misunderstood man. So humane. Previously I watched Janghyuk's beautiful mind with sort of character but his character is more on angry, arrogant side of an emotionless man. So yeah, I'm so waiting for Jo Seung Woo next drama.
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⭐ Sera The Ms Temper ⭐
December 29, 2017 at 5:15 AM
JSW is so stingy with drama, that it might take years to see him in a drama again (unless FOS season 2 really happen next year and all original actors remain!).
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mmmmm
December 29, 2017 at 7:15 AM
I love him too. He just gave life to that emotionless so nicely. The character came to life because of his (adorable) face, physical gestures. This is a masterpiece. I actually searched a lot for behind-the-scenes videos of him. :)
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PYC
December 29, 2017 at 7:57 AM
Forest of Secrets is a masterpiece in its own league (and it will be some years before we can see another drama of similar calibre).
The acting of Jo Seung Woo, together with Bae Donna, Yoo Jae Myung and the ensemble cast, set it apart from others. While I understand for a site like DB that AoY2 is named the best ensemble, the cast central of FoS is simply sublime without comparison.
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Tom
December 30, 2017 at 12:05 AM
@PYC
+1
And then some more!!!!!!!!!!
I don't need my ensemble to like each other. For me its a show that plays without a lead. Even though FoS had 2 main protagonists...I can't pull out the other characters as lesser...and that goes for character's all the way down the cast list.
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16 superwhopotterlock
December 29, 2017 at 4:26 AM
for some reason the honourable mention for 'the biggest disappointment' cracked me up..like you tried your best to be bad but someone outperformed you too..hehe
while I haven't watched some of the shows like 7DQ and Rebel...I agree with almost all of your choices except best comedy i guess...it should've been chief kim...SWDBS became too much creepy towards the end....
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growingbeautifully
December 29, 2017 at 6:23 AM
LOL! Out performing suckiness!
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lotus
December 29, 2017 at 9:12 AM
".... like you tried your best to be bad but someone outperformed you too..hehe"
THIS GOT ME LOL-ING FOR A WHOLE MINUTE OMG YOU WIN, FELLOW BEANIE XDDD
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superwhopotterlock
December 29, 2017 at 6:38 PM
I'm glad that it was able to bring a smile to your face
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RaOnAh loves Jay B 💚
December 29, 2017 at 6:35 PM
Instead of honorable mention, it should be DIShonorable mention 😅
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17 Grapes
December 29, 2017 at 4:29 AM
Currently watching Forest Of secrets after putting it on hold for like 5 months, I've watched the first episode when the drama started airing but i didn't like it maybe because i was overseas at that time and I didn't have time, but after reading the love that beanies been spreading all over I decided to give it a second chance, i am at episode 13 now it took me 10 episodes to be completely hooked and feel the urge to press the next episode button, it's a good mystery drama has a clever writing, but I wasn't invested or impressed like Signal or Black, but i am enjoying it for the time being and can't wait to know who's the mysterious mastermind, specially after the unexpected reveal in episode 12.
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18 whoopeeyoo
December 29, 2017 at 4:38 AM
Aw, I thought Yoo Ah-in would win Best Hair this year. Hahaha! Also, can there be just cuts of Reaper and Sunny in Goblin for me? I found the first episodes so tedious and the main romance icky (SHE'S IN HIGH SCHOOL) that I was never able to push through with it except for Ctrl+F-ing the recaps for all the Sunny and Reaper scenes. (I'm insane, I know.) Would it be better to watch it while drunk? Hahaha! #makingplansfortheweekend
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dukseonnoona
December 29, 2017 at 7:44 AM
I am also a bit sad that Yoo