Witch’s Court: Episode 3
by Helcat
Yi-deum has a talent for attracting attention with her headstrong attitude and cavalier disregard for proper procedure. But what makes for a fascinating heroine can also spell trouble, as Yi-deum takes a knock in her professional life. To make matters worse, she might just have baited the wrong foe(s) into her personal life as well.
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EPISODE 3 RECAP
In the aftermath of Yi-deum’s stunt, Jin-wook calls Yi-deum a psychopath and runs out to find the victim, Woo-sung, and plead with him to stay. Woo-sung shoots Jin-wook a look of utter betrayal before hightailing it away from court.
Outside, Prosecutor Min asks Yi-deum some hard questions, clearly suspicious that Yi-deum was the one to leak the information to the defense. However, Prosecutor Min’s interrogation is interrupted by Jo Gap-soo, who slyly says that she is still the same as ever before adding, “You can’t improve if you only look back.”
Having no time for mind games, Prosecutor Min simply says that Jo Gap-soo hasn’t changed either—he’s still as brazen and shameless as he used to be. Laughing, Jo turns to Yi-deum and compliments her on the good show she put on in court, and warns Prosecutor Heo that she needs to raise her game to compete.
Humiliated, Prosecutor Heo accuses Yi-deum of laying a trap with her phone in the bathroom, and Jo Gap-soo’s gaze sharpens with interest. Prosecutor Min’s face is carefully blank, but Yi-deum casts a wary look in her direction when Jo Gap-soo and Prosecutor Heo leave.
About to get in the car, Jo Gap-soo turns to Prosecutor Heo as he asks whether she is aware that Professor Sun will be taking her appeal to a different law firm—of course, this means that Prosecutor Heo’s services will no longer be required at his foundation. Jo Gap-soo tells her that she must walk back, his tone intimidating as he states, “Remind yourself of your beginnings.”
Jo Gap-soo chuckles over Yi-deum’s bold tactics, and sighs that she is stuck under Prosecutor Min’s influence. Henchman Sang-ho ominously promises to discover what he can about Yi-deum.
In Prosecutor Min’s office, Yi-deum is defiant as she explains that she had to reveal Woo-sung’s sexuality against his wishes because they would never win otherwise. Prosecutor Min is unmoved, instead asking what Yi-deum will do now that the news outlets have turned the rape case into gossip fodder. Her voice raised, Prosecutor Min fires out that Yi-deum isn’t as clever as she thinks she is, adding, “It’s because you’re incompetent that you keep turning toward ways to cheat!”
Prosecutor Min says that she knows Yi-deum applied to a different department for personal reasons, but whatever they are—to fulfil an ambition, or to avenge someone—they have no place here in the Crimes Against Children Unit, and asks for Yi-deum’s resignation.
Drowning her sorrows in alcohol after work, Yi-deum is unhappily accosted by Jin-wook, and snappily asks if a “psychopath” like her can’t carry her own drinks. Jin-wook says seriously that he and Yi-deum need to talk, but Yi-deum huffs that she has already been reprimanded by Prosecutor Min, and doesn’t need it from him as well. Jin-wook gets increasingly frustrated as Yi-deum interrupts what he’s trying to say, until he blurts out, “When are you going to move out?”
Ha! Jin-wook explains to Yi-deum that many people have been asking about when they can move in, but she hasn’t told him when she’s leaving. Plus, Jin-wook adds, having her at the apartment makes him uncomfortable, as if he has brought work home with him. Unbalanced, Yi-deum can only nod in agreement.
At home though, Yi-deum is grouchy about Jin-wook’s attitude toward her, his senior, because now she’s getting beaten up by both her boss and junior at work.
Thinking back to Prosecutor Min’s unwittingly perceptive words that she is seeking revenge, she pulls out a battered old box and lovingly strokes a copy of the flier she made for her missing mother.
In flashback, we see a teenaged Yi-deum as she angrily puts up posters and vents to her friend Yoo-mi that someone keeps pulling them down. As they walk home, Yoo-mi wonders whether the person stealing the posters could be the same person who kidnapped Yi-deum’s mother, perhaps out of guilt. Yi-deum’s face lights up in hope at the idea.
Unfortunately, that hope is quashed, because the person vandalizing the posters is schoolgirl Se-na. Se-na resentfully admits that this is revenge, because Yi-deum’s complaint that Se-na’s father hadn’t done his duty was causing her whole family to be transferred away from the police station.
Yi-deum is unrepentant as she declares that Se-na’s father should have done his job properly then, but she’s thrown for a loop when Se-na spits back that her father can’t work miracles—everyone knows that Yi-deum’s mother ran away and left her child behind. Enraged, Yi-deum launches herself at Se-na, pulling at her hair and clothes.
The trio of schoolgirls end up at the police station, looking rather rough and injured. Se-na’s parents rush in, and her mother is vitriolic as she blames Yi-deum for her husband being transferred, adding that Yi-deum is so evil that her own mother ran away from her.
Se-na’s father barks for his wife to stop talking and leave with Se-na. Yi-deum desperately clings on to Se-na’s father’s arm before he can leave and pleads for him to understand that she didn’t want to get him in trouble—she just wanted to find her mother.
Gentle with the teary teenager, Se-na’s father says that it’s a good thing they haven’t found a body—it means that Yi-deum’s mom is alive. Reassuring Yi-deum, he states, “Runaway moms always come back, at least once, to see their kids.”
Outside, Yi-deum pulls down the remaining posters, and is determined as she says that she will no longer rely on other people to find her mom. Instead, she will use her own skills—perhaps by joining the police, or becoming president—to either find the person who kidnapped her, or force her mom to come out of hiding.
Back in the present, Yi-deum brusquely wipes away the tears from her eyes as she reminds herself that nothing useful comes from crying.
Cut to: Yi-deum sobbing over a bowl of instant noodles.
Meanwhile, a young couple is ecstatic as they shop for wedding dresses. As the young bride-to-be asks for a more modestly cut gown, her fiancee stares in horror at his phone—at a very public sex tape of his future wife.
The next day, Yi-deum makes a flashy entrance wearing sunglasses to hide her “sodium” sins from the night before, and the rest of the team sniggers. The team suspects the victim Ga-young’s ex-boyfriend of posting the video online, though he claims that he is a victim as well, because his face is shown too.
Prosecutor Min asks for everyone’s opinion, but ruthlessly states that anyone who believes this will be too difficult to prosecute should just go home. She continues that a video like this one is akin to murdering someone’s good character, but no one can meet her eyes when she asks who will take the case… apart from Yi-deum.
Yi-deum says that she will come to this case with a new heart and treat it as penance for her behavior in the last case. Prosecutor Ma isn’t totally convinced however, and orders Jin-wook to chaperone Yi-deum on the case, to avoid being betrayed again. Yi-deum is less than happy about this, but accepts the case anyway.
Outside, Yi-deum “magnanimously” tells Jin-wook that she will forgive him if he apologizes for calling her a psychopath yesterday. Hilariously though, Jin-wook proceeds to say he doesn’t think he was wrong—in fact, Yi-deum should be the one to apologize for outing Woo-sung in court.
Incredulous, Yi-deum aims a swift kick at Jin-wook’s shin, and states that losing a case hurts 100 times more than that—and to a prosecutor, winning is apologizing. Yi-deum also adds that she has put her apartment up for rent, so Jin-wook better be prompt about repaying her deposit.
Office manager Mi-young cheerfully wheels in a huge pile of new cases for the beleaguered lawyers to work on. Prosecutor Jang Eun-jung is given an unusual one, where it is unclear who the offender actually is, because it is a father claiming that the upskirt shots found on his phone weren’t taken by him at all—but by his young son.
The father breaks down as he says it’s very difficult as a single, working father to monitor his mischievous son the whole time. Taking pity, Prosecutor Jang sternly tells the young boy that his hero, Thunderman, wouldn’t approve of such photos being taken and allows the two to leave.
Mi-young can’t believe that Prosecutor Jang let the man get away, and cites his past as proof that he’s guilty. Jang is firm though, and mumbles that the son doesn’t even have a mother around to help.
Meanwhile, a distraught Ga-young watches the sex tape in the interview room, but is adamant that she saw the video (to celebrate her and her ex’s 100th day together) get deleted. In fact, Ga-young was worried that her ex, Kim Sang-yoon, would upload pictures he had taken secretly when they broke up, and won’t believe that this “demon” is also the victim he claims he is.
Office tech expert Seok-chan looks pleased with himself as he demonstrates to Jin-wook and Yi-deum how easy it would be for a person to upload their image to the cloud, which would render deleting it from the phone useless.
Unimpressed, Yi-deum pointedly asks why a deflated Seok-chan called this meeting if he has no further evidence. Seok-chan nervously explains that he traced the IP address, and found an incorrectly deleted video from a website in China showing a sex tape of a second victim.
Unfortunately, Sang-yoon is nowhere to be found. Yi-deum and Jin-wook theorize that this is probably Sang-yoon’s MO, and that there will be more victims out there. An address for the second victim comes through, although Yi-deum good mood is rankled by Jin-wook’s careless order for her to enter the coordinates into the GPS.
Oh Min-jung, the second victim, used to be a much sought-after hairdresser, but the salon the two lawyers arrive at is much more humble. Min-jung tells Yi-deum and Jin-wook that there is no one at this salon by that name, and protectively places a hand over her very unexpected pregnancy bump.
Away from prying eyes, Min-jung explains that she changed her name when she moved to avoid any nasty rumors. She and Sang-yoon dated for a little while when she was taking a break from the baby’s father (phew!), and she stupidly did whatever Sang-yoon wanted because he was cute and fun.
Except it looks like the exact same thing happened to Min-jung as it did to Ga-young—the videos were taken, and then right before Min-jung’s wedding, one was posted online. Min-jung was able to get to the video before her fiancé ever saw it, and although she considered going to the police, she didn’t want the publicity to affect her imminent marriage and new baby. So she hired a private company to delete the files.
Min-jung understands why the lawyers are here, but she warns them that she refuses to go to court, because she still gets chills thinking about Sang-yoon. Yi-deum and Jin-wook sigh in frustration at the dead end, but they hustle back to the police station when Jin-wook receives word that Sang-yoon has been arrested.
Sang-yoon is sanguine in the face of Yi-deum’s interrogation, creepily citing the specifics and maximum jail time of the crime he has been charged with. He wonders why he would do anything to a woman he hasn’t seen in two years and smugly finishes, “Why are you treating me like the perp?”
Jin-wook points to the second victim’s video they have found, and threatens the man with both the crime of taping and distribution. Sang-yoon counters that there isn’t much money in distribution, and pumps up the creep factor when he says, “But the younger the girls, the better it sells.”
Sang-yoon points out that the only reason the prosecutors want him to confess is because they can’t connect him with the tapes. Yi-deum taunts that Sang-yoon must love punishment with the way he is acting, and Sang-yoon’s mask of geniality drops as he says menacingly, “Don’t be rude. If a woman I never met before lectures me, I get upset.”
Yi-deum looks amused as she tells Sang-yoon that he shouldn’t think of her as a woman, which is a challenge that Sang-yoon can’t pass up. Yi-deum tries to stare him down, but Sang-yoon rises from his chair, and her eyes involuntarily drop. Although she snaps them back up immediately, Sang-yoon is smug in his triumph: “You are a woman.”
Her feathers ruffled, Yi-deum privately pushes Jin-wook to arrest Sang-yoon, saying that they can find the evidence they need while he’s in custody. Jin-wook is reluctant, but Yi-deum is insistent that she can take responsibility. The ride to Sang-yoon’s apartment is tense, as the team knows they are running out of time to gather the digital evidence they need.
Meanwhile, at the station, Sang-yoon is left unsupervised long enough to fire off a text reading “Expecting company. Clean thoroughly.” The recipient, hearing the buzz of the police at the door straight after, is tipped off and hastily tries to destroy the computer in the shared apartment before the police can break down the door.
Unfortunately, the accomplice has enough time to toss the hard drive out of the window, although the police take him into the station in handcuffs anyway. The prosecution team is hopeful that they will be able to recover files from the smashed computer, but Yi-deum is still disappointed that Sang-yoon will walk free for now.
At the station, the newly released Sang-yoon admonishes his accomplice for not getting rid of the evidence properly in time. Discontented, Yi-deum stops Sang-yoon to warn him that she will see him behind bars once she gets the proof, and orders him not to leave a five mile radius until she does.
Prosecutor Jang looks harassed as she leaves her house with her two rowdy sons, and on the train, she instructs them not to be noisy. The two boys chorus in unison, “Or you’ll arrest us? You always say that to Dad.”
Embarrassed, Prosecutor Jang hushes her sons. Spotting the “Thunderman” son and father from her case yesterday, Prosecutor Jang is disgusted to realize that the young son is indeed taking dirty pictures on his father’s phone—but only after the father hands it to him with directions on who to photograph. This time, it’s two schoolgirls.
Prosecutor Jang marches over and swipes the man’s phone. He immediately starts to snivel that his son is sorry, but Jang isn’t fooled this time, and informs him he has been caught in the act.
Elsewhere, in a night club, Sang-yoon broods over a photo of Yi-deum, his expression foreboding.
The work day over, Jin-wook bids Yi-deum goodbye as he prepares to get in his car. Offended, Yi-deum asks whether he is going to offer her a ride since they live in the same building. Jin-wook reluctantly obliges, then readily accepts her clearly disingenuous decline, though Yi-deum solves that problem by simply climbing into his car.
Frank as ever, Yi-deum admits that she doesn’t like working in the Crimes Against Girls Unit because you see the worst of humanity there. She laments that while others get the glory by chasing corrupt corporations, this unit will never even advance her career.
Confused, Jin-wook stops her to say that he thought she felt bad for the victims in the sex-tape case. Confused now too, Yi-deum says that she felt compassionate, but that doesn’t mean she can relate to the women—in fact, Yi-deum pronounces that she would never shoot a video like that even if she was dating.
Meanwhile, unbeknownst to Yi-deum, the conniving Sang-yoon is being shown around her apartment, ready for new renters. His grin turns evil as he is left alone.
Jin-wook and Yi-deum continue their argument, as Jin-wook tries to persuade her that anything can happen when you’re in love, so she shouldn’t judge people so harshly. Yi-deum resolutely declares that she can’t relate: “Feeling emotions for victims complicates things and doesn’t help the investigation.” The ensuing elevator ride is awkward, and Jin-wook steps off first.
Happy to be home, Yi-deum dances her way out of her clothes and into the shower. As she steps out, freshly washed, something catches her eye though. It’s a blinking red light in the bathroom mirror, and she’s horrified to discover that a camera has been filming her every move.
Nearby, Sang-yoon smirks as he watches on his screen.
Yi-deum runs to check the rest of her house, but panics when she hears someone trying to enter the code to her door. Yi-deum’s fear mounts, and she grabs hold of a frying pan just as the code is entered correctly. Someone slowly makes their way down the stairs as Yi-deum cowers behind the kitchen wall.
COMMENTS
What good has ever come from a character declaring that something would never happen to them? It looks like Yi-deum’s hubris will come back to haunt her next episode, which I think will be a tricky thing for the show to balance, but I’ll just reserve judgement until I see how it plays out.
I will say though, that I am glad we have a coincidence in this show that finally works for me. I find the plotting can be lazy at times—in this episode for instance, when Prosecutor Jung sees the lecherous father on the train, or Sang-yoon being allowed to send that text at the station—but this time the show pulls it off because both sides of the story work. I find it hilarious that Jin-wook is actually Yi-deum’s landlord and junior at work, and on the flip side, the cunning that Sang-yoon displays by infiltrating Yi-deum’s apartment makes him an even more chilling villain.
Above all though, I think what helps this show rise above its weaker plot elements is how good it is at understanding the victim’s perspective and in showing a range of well articulated reactions. Woo-sung’s utter betrayal from not just the criminal, but the entire justice system that was supposed to protect him, was tough to watch. I would love to see some closure on his case, but if we leave it where it is, that would be the more realistic ending. The justice system, as was the case here, can often be re-traumatizing for the victim, and it certainly isn’t present for the healing journey that victims must go on.
Which was why it was so understandable that Min-jung didn’t want to come forward to the police when Sang-yoon released her sex tape to the public, and instead wanted to just hide the horrific act. It wouldn’t be fair to brand Min-jung a coward when the system would require her to give up so much—her dignity, her marriage, her time—without even a guarantee that her violation would be successfully prosecuted. The show is doing a very good job of showing how difficult it is for victims to come forward, and how difficult it is for prosecutors to get a conviction in sexual crimes.
The other thing I am really digging about this show is Yi-deum and Jin-wook’s relationship, and the levity it brings every time Jin-wook does something to annoy Yi-deum. Yi-deum’s cutthroat tactics obviously rub Jin-wook the wrong way, and are probably better suited to a different legal department. That, plus the fact that he is also her landlord, has put their relationship amusingly off-kilter. On the other hand, Yi-deum is undoubtedly good at what she does, and isn’t wrong to think that Jin-wook isn’t giving her the respect her senior position demands—but then again, it’s not like Yi-deum is too concerned with hierarchy herself, is it? These two are coming at this job from such different outlooks that the sparks between them are inevitable.
My favorite moment from the episode came from when Jin-wook gave Yi-deum the most insincere offer of a ride home after Yi-deum basically demanded it. Although still a little antagonistic, I enjoyed how both of them have adapted their responses to each other—Yi-deum just steamrolled past his lack of consideration, and Jin-wook let her brashness slide. I can see how a more amicable partnership between these two would work, bickering included, but with just enough compromise to get the best of both worlds.
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Tags: Episode 3, Jung Ryeo-won, Witch's Court, Yoon Hyun-min
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1 greenfields
October 20, 2017 at 3:27 AM
About Woo Jan's lack of closure, I agree. It's most realistic that way. Also, what makes me so sad is that he preferred to be a rapist than to be gay. Is the how lightly rape is viewed, and how severely homosexuality is punished? What a sad commentary on our times.
About the present case - I don't like the trajectory the show seems to be taking. Does Ma Yi Deum have to be a victim herself? To what end? Understand, and empathise? To make her more likeable amongst the audience? This is the laziest way to go about it and it also makes me sad - can't a badass female lead remain a badass female lead? Character growth is good, but I'd prefer it in the way of Chief Kim - where he learned to be 'good' because he was forced to be so, and not because he was a victim and had a big revelation.
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seoul_searcher
October 20, 2017 at 3:34 AM
I think if you watch the next Ep you'd find it isn't going the way you think it is in terms of her character
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secretseven
October 20, 2017 at 11:36 AM
I have to say that I agree with not liking the direction that the writing was going. But it got me thinking that since this drama is thematically focused around violence against women, and how the Sang Yoon put women in their right "place" is emphasizing their sex. This show is not a depiction of the ideal situation where a woman can be strong despite reality, specifically Korean strict gender binaries. I mean, Yi Deum can rise as a strong woman, but us not wanting her to be victimize doesn't make women victimization less common. Also, being in Crimes Against Women unit, she is definitely more likely to encounter men/people who are misogynistic. She is a woman... and this show has been faithful to the depiction of Yi Deum's struggle as a woman, from enduring sexual harassment from her boss to now, this attack... So I actually agree with this.
Not taking into account the next episode. XD
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greenfields
October 21, 2017 at 4:02 AM
Hmm..I can accept it as a consistent plot element, but not where it makes people say they're glad it happened to her.
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deltadragon23
October 21, 2017 at 12:15 AM
Hmmm, but it did make me think of this quote by Cheryl Strayed. The truth of the matter is, it often does require uw to experience what someone else has in order to truly understand and empathize fully.
“But the reality is we often become our kindest, most ethical selves only by seeing what it feels like to be a selfish jackass first.” - Tiny Beautiful Things by Cheryl Strayed
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greenfields
October 21, 2017 at 4:01 AM
But then you are actually justifying what happened to her - and essentially saying that it is good it happened/that she may deserved/'earned' it somehow (bad karma?) in exchange for her disregard of victims earlier. I.e. that it's justifiable in some instances - say where a prosecutor who should ideally be sympathetic is not.
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deltadragon23
October 27, 2017 at 5:27 PM
Oh no! I'm not saying in any way that what was done to her was the result of "bad karma" or that was justified or deserved based on her previous actions. You are making vast assumptions based on a connection I made from the drama to a quote in a book. I would never wish anyone, no matter what they have done or thought in the past, any sort of harm. I'm just pointing out a universal theme that is being represented both in the drama the book "Tiny, Beautiful Things": that it often takes going through something similar to truly understand someone else's situation. That's all. I'm just restating an observance of life, rather than passing judgement on Yi-deum.
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alasecond
October 21, 2017 at 2:02 AM
i am putting my money on our hero being the result of rape.. like his mother got raped and the lady who was killed in ep 1 .. whom ma's mother was going to help by giving forth the casette to then lawyer (now dept chief) lady..
So, the woman who dies was a rape victim, hero being that son.. then he became orphan so the head of this crime unit (then lawyer fighting the rape case) gave him up for adoption to a nice rich family
Ma on the other hand.. is not a result of rape.. didn't think her mom was raped. she was just a witniss.. but yes.. ma will avenge death of her mother.. and hero avenge the rape/murder
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2 seoul_searcher
October 20, 2017 at 3:28 AM
I love the way the main leads banter it's honestly the highlight and their characters are so refreshing as it's been switched around. I can't say this enough but I love Yi deum she's definitely crazy and headstrong but it's charming
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3 meowingme
October 20, 2017 at 4:01 AM
Woah, the perp on this case is such a bastard, am itching so bad to bash his smug face, ugh. My understanding of what happened in the interrogation room was him deliberately checking Yi-deum's body before making the "you are a woman" remark, which is why she was so upset.
Yi-deum's back story is so sad. Kinda get why she thinks she shouldn't bother about the victim's feeling, coz when she was the victim, all the "good guys" didn't seem to care about what she felt and judged her mother to be a runaway...
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isa: I'm not a serial killer I'm just really passionate about things
October 20, 2017 at 11:05 AM
Thats how I saw the interrogation scene as well. I thought he stood up to look down her blouse.
And even when the cop with the straight up awful wife and daughter was comforting teenage Yi Deum at the station he still disregarded her feelings with the "runaway moms always come back once" line. Just because he couldn't find her doesn't mean she ran away. And I feel like I read somewhere that surviving families prefer to have the body found for closure. So his hold out hope wasnt really helpful. If being helpful was his goal. It could have been a backhanded jab.
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ar_arguably romantic
October 20, 2017 at 9:53 PM
To her, it seems like the good guys only want to help when it's easy and they only want to make easy decisions or decisions that would allow them to appear as a good guy. Murders are easy. Death by falling into the river drunk. Truck of dooms. All are easy. Women disappearing is always something complicated.
The whole part where the mother was judged to be a runaway. They wouldn't have thought that if she was a married woman. But a single woman with a child out of wedlock. Of course, she has to be an irresponsible person. While I don't like some of choices Yi Deum has made, I can see how she has become this person who disregards others' feelings and sometimes even tramples over them.
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4 nerdy
October 20, 2017 at 4:05 AM
I actually disliked how prosecutor Jang lat that pervert go. I mean, even if he wasn't using his child he still had no problem putting the blame on his son. Plus, this is a guy who is taking photos of underaged girl's underwears. Not the quilty of best parent
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5 xhuizini
October 20, 2017 at 4:36 AM
Yi-deum and Jin-wook slowly learning to tolerate each other despite their obvious difference is what makes me love each episode that comes out.
And Min-sook being frank with Yi-deum when she said, “It’s because you’re incompetent that you keep turning toward ways to cheat!” -- man, I felt bad for Yi-deum but truth really hurts.
Can't wait for Monday again!!!
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chasingbears
October 20, 2017 at 7:53 AM
I really respect Min-Sook because she also values her work to be as equally important to other departments and do not tolerate Yi-Deum's crap lol
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6 BedeliaJane
October 20, 2017 at 4:49 AM
This drama was never in my radar, but after reading the recaps for ep 1 & 2, I checked it out, and I got hooked! I've developed a crush on Yoon Hyun Min! How come I find him so attractive here even though I've seen him in other dramas?! I guess it could be the character he's playing...
I've been replaying ep 3 & 4 a lot - I love the banter between Jinwook & Yideum! I really hope Witch's Court doesn't end up like Witch's Romance in which the witch kinda lost her "wickedness". Really loving Jung Ryeo Won here! Makes me wanna rewatch History of Salaryman & King of Dramas!
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7 nocturnalninja
October 20, 2017 at 5:48 AM
“Feeling emotions for victims complicates things and doesn’t help the investigation.” - Ma Yi-Deum
I wasn't glad that she had to be a victim herself in order to empathize with other victims. I would have liked if she didn't have to experience it just to realize her mistake and eat her own words. But I guess experience is the best teacher and she probably learned her lesson. I hope this show continues to mold Yi-Deum into a more responsible prosecutor who is able to understand the victim's feelings with the help of Jin-wook
In the bright side, I still love our duo! Their endless banters are amusing to watch and they are absolutely adorable together! *finger hearts*
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ar_arguably romantic
October 20, 2017 at 9:58 PM
I wasn't glad about that either, but from the standpoint of messaging - the show is telling us that people should be more careful about judging victims, that it is easy to become a victim, and that Yi Deum shouldn't have had to learn her lesson via being victimized herself. We all got to see her hubris.
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8 LaLa
October 20, 2017 at 5:50 AM
She is morally flexible, harsh, combative, and selfish. But I don't care. I love Ma Yi Deum.
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9 hannaehh
October 20, 2017 at 6:23 AM
I love Ma Yi Deum though she can be so selfish and self-centered, but I love her anyway. I find it amazing that up until now, she doesn't resent her mom at all for leaving her (like how kdrama always showed us), but simply she missed her mom and she's still trying to find her mom by being famous and put her name out there for her mom to find her. I felt sad for her when she said to herself to not cry, and she channeled her sadness by watching movies. But the next day...she came to the prosecutor office with her shades, LOL.
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10 Pensola
October 20, 2017 at 6:27 AM
I don't like the idea toward the end that Yi-deum has to experience being a victim to become a better person, or to "punish" her for her behavior. I still think she is an asshole despite me liking her character, but I just don't want the world to forget what she did, and Prosecutor Min (and the male lead) served that well. They did not let her get away with excuses, and made sure her way of thinking does not equal right. Even if the phone was the only way to win, her way of using it without the victim's knowledge was wrong, and she needs to know that this unit demands some tact and empathy.
Not to mention that she still is not sorry about outing the victim from last episode, and as the male lead says this or the next episode, she has NO idea how it is like being homosexual anywhere, and how the choice to come out of the closet is stolen with the expectation that one should be grateful for it. And Prosecutor Min still not trusting Yi-deum and assigning her junior to be her watchdog - which Yi-deum finds humiliating - was even better, because just yelling at her once is not enough. She doesn't need to be assaulted, she does not need to change her personality (too much) for me to like her. But the world needs to remember what she did, and no matter how much her choice was the only one to take to win, her behavior and intentions behind them must still be remembered and have consequences. Otherwise she is just a Mary Sue. (Because a Mary Sue is not necessarily a character who is perfect, it is a character who can be flawed or do bad things, but the world bends itself to forget-and-forgive or make her bad actions look good.)
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Katrina
October 20, 2017 at 9:29 AM
Her being victimized reminds me of a book I started to read a woman and some others were time traveller and she was warned/told not to time travel by herself because as a woman she would be more in danger in certain times/places. So of course she immediately ignores that and promptly time travels by herself and as soon as she gets -
wherever, she is gang raped by a multitude of men. I dropped it immediately. Now I understand women are generally more at risk. But the way the writer used her being horribly, repeatedly violated as a 'told you so moment' will forever piss me off. This is no where near that level, but the fact it immediately popped into my head bums me out. On the whole I've really been enjoying the show and Ji-woo and Yi-deum as partners in any sense are just great to watch.
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Pensola
October 20, 2017 at 12:05 PM
Oh, was that the Outlander book series that the TV show is based on? Apparently both the main character and her daughter get raped there at various points. I also just watched a fairytale movie where the legend is that if the princess isn't married before she turns 18, a troll kidnaps her and marries her into his slave. The Princess is a Strong Independant Woman, so she runs away, but the legend is true and so she is kidnapped. While it was mainly a plot point to start the story itself (so three farmer brothers could try to save her), it did feel kind of like a "told you so, you wimminz are too strong-willed for your own good", and I didn't like it.
As I said, I didn't want Yi-deum victimized, only that she should realize that her behavior in this unit were unacceptable and that it would make her boss and colleague lost trust in her. I was satisfied that Ji-woo refused to apologize since Yi-deum, no matter how right she feels she was to use the tape, didn't apologize to the male victim either, and that the Prosecutor doesn't let her get away either. I know what happens next episode, but it still saddened me that Yi-deum has to be victimized to a degree still.
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11 magicbeanie
October 20, 2017 at 6:28 AM
I love the scene where Yi Deum cries over a instant noodle bowl while watching comedy shows...it is a good mix of sadness and comedy relief. The chemistry between the leads is off the bar even though at this moment they probably would rather have a fight with each other if possible lol
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12 missjb
October 20, 2017 at 7:13 AM
They are just need to get rid of a fluffy unnecesary light scene to make this drama more engaging. When they get serious, the scene is just so good.
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Katrina
October 20, 2017 at 9:34 AM
I don't know, with all the heavy subject matter if there weren't any fluffy scenes to look forward to I would probably not be able to watch it with as much enthusiasm as I do now. The lighter scenes are not cartoonish and almost are always of Ji-woo and Yi-deum, so for me I could handle more of those
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13 KaniaDJ
October 20, 2017 at 9:33 AM
So... I'm gonna make a very shallow comment right now. Jin wook, why you so sexy??? What other drama is he on? Why is this the first time i saw him? I dont even know his name, but he got me all hot and tingly inside. There, i said it.
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Katrina
October 20, 2017 at 9:37 AM
He was in Heartless City, Tunnel, Witches Romance, and Falling for Sung-joon(or Falling for Innocence) that I've seen.
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Katrina
October 20, 2017 at 9:39 AM
Deeply thoughtful, considerate and hot. I'd be more surprised of he didn't rate that reaction! 😎
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loveblossom🌸
October 20, 2017 at 10:34 AM
Hehee, Yoon Hyun Min is very sexy! He was hot in Heartless City. Bad boy character. Then he was really cute and boyish in Witch's Romance.
I've seen him in a bunch of shows, but his roles in these dramas and Tunnel are my favorites. Might have to add Witch's Court to that list too. :)
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Ginger
October 20, 2017 at 11:27 AM
Saw Yoon Hyun Min first in Falling for Innocence, then in Tunnel. He is not the handsome boy type, but really liked him in Tunnel.
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BedeliaJane
October 20, 2017 at 2:57 PM
He was also in Discovery Of Romance with Eric & Kim Seulgi. But I think he's the most swoon-worthy in Witch's Court! 😍 I'll have to check out his other dramas! Maybe Tunnel first and probably My Daughter Geum Sa Wol to see his chemistry with his real-life girlfriend Baek Jin Hee.
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KaniaDJ
October 21, 2017 at 12:51 AM
Thank you ladies for the info! This is my first time seeing him. I haven't seen any of the dramas you mentioned. The most recent one is tunnel, right? Yes, he's not the handsome/pretty boy type, but oh dear... that only makes him sexier. just like when I fell in love with Ryu Jun Yeol.
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14 purplerain☔
October 20, 2017 at 10:27 AM
How dare that pervert film my prosecutor ma. what kinda sicko is he
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15 secretseven
October 20, 2017 at 11:45 AM
WARNING Feminist in the Comment Box!
This is my current favourite drama. I love the realistic depiction of gender politics. If we look at Sang Yoon's reaction to Yi Deum's power, he emphasizes that she is a woman, like her sex makes her a prey.
It's also interesting to read between the lines of Yi Deum's, "How can you see me as a woman?" like authority and femalehood cannot coexist. And in a highly structured hierarchical society where gender roles are so emphasized, it's definitely the message. Yi Deum rejects the "softness" in women like empathy and treats it as a source of weakness as well.
I would really love her character arc of finding that balance where she can be a strong woman who do not bend or conform to how patriarchy defines what a strong woman is.
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redoy21
October 21, 2017 at 3:37 AM
👏👏 Totally agree !! Sad that you have to put a label that you are feminist when what you said this is supposed to be a general knowledge that woman are perceived as weak in many society which shouldn't be the case. I would also love if they can potray a badass who is proud to be a woman !
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Jibber Jabber Drama
October 21, 2017 at 5:31 PM
I actually don't think that Yi-deum was saying that femalehood and authority can't go together. My interpretation here was that she thought gender was irrelevant to the fact she is an authority, and rejected Sang-yoon's attempt to make it about gender.
I also don't think that Yi-deum is rejecting the softness because it is about femalehood- from the flashbacks of her as a child, we see a quick to anger, quite selfish person. After her mother went missing, she was shaped by the lack of regard for her in society, and eschews empathy because she was shown none. These are not things that should be linked to her womanhood, o
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16 Lady Lolo
October 20, 2017 at 12:43 PM
This show is in the running to be my favorite drama (Stranger still has it so far), because I'm always a sucker for a strong female lead. I love how Yi Deum has the personality of a typical male lead that would usually annoy me until they undergo a character development arc (idk if it's the writing of Yi Deum's character or Jung Ryeo Won herself, but she's so damn likeable even when she is kind of an asshole).
I love and hate the fact that she's also a very realistic character. While she isn't victim-blaming (thank goodness), she is saying things that a lot of women in real life do about victims of such perversion i.e. 'I would never walk down a dark alley at night', 'I would never go to a frat party', etc. because we would like to believe that we would be smarter than the victim and wouldn't place ourselves in a similar situation. It's much easier to think that way rather than accepting the fact that sexual assault and other related cases can happen to anyone, and the problem doesn't lie with the victims not being careful enough: it's an entrenched societal normalization of such disgusting behavior, and that is a lot harder to come into terms with.
Anyhow, I thought making Yi Deum a victim was a touch contrived and exemplified lazy plot writing, but I'll save my comments for how it played out in episode 4 on that recap.
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redoy21
October 21, 2017 at 3:33 AM
Me too !! Stranger is one of my favourite this year and this is also rapidly becoming one of my fav this year. i love the main lead !!
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17 knom
October 20, 2017 at 5:33 PM
I really like their bickering and team work. Initially I was worried that this pairing would be off but thank goodness they proved me otherwise. Another solid episode. I really like the pacing and editing of this show. Plus, the OST by Solji is such a beautiful song (it's finally released. Yay). The highlight of ep 3 episode for me was her ramen crying scene. I can relate to that. When you try soo hard not to cry but you still want to, the best way to conceal it (and make you feel a bit less embarrassed/weak) is to laugh and cry while watching a tv show (putting the blame on the show for the tears. lol).
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18 redoy21
October 21, 2017 at 3:02 AM
Maybe I am biased toward s our awesome Heroine but I dont like Prosecutor Min atm. When she shouted at her being incompetent ,I don't see her telling them any alternative way to win the case. Would it have been better if they lost that case and the victim went to prison while the offender went free . Need i remind her that because she lost the case ,a rapist is going to become a political leader...
And yup i am a bit dissapointed with the writing of this episode which involved coincidences and making our Anti Heroin a victim which will make her vulnerable but I am looking forward to see her kick some ass next episode.
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korfan
October 21, 2017 at 3:52 AM
Regarding Prosecutor Min, exactly! Had the victim been sentenced to jail instead of the offender, how does she think she could face the victim (or anyone else, for that matter) and say that justice and the law prevailed or worked?
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redoy21
October 22, 2017 at 11:27 AM
Exactly.. as Ma Yi Deum pointed out it would hurt a lot more if they lost the case..
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19 gypsea
October 21, 2017 at 3:03 AM
POSSIBLE SPOILER
i haven't seen the next ep yet, just the preview clip at the end of it. but please please dont tell me that we are being set up for a possible birth secret between the OTP?!?!?!?! i acty like this show and dont want to have to drop it because of the doomsday birth secret spoiling everything...
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