While You Were Sleeping: Episodes 9-10
by girlfriday
Now there’s a girl who wears her crush on her face and doesn’t care who sees it. I’m mostly rooting for this romance because she’s so smitten, but once in a while, it’s nice to get some signals that she’s not in it alone. Well, we may have known that, but it’s only fair that she gets a clue.
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EPISODE 9: “Don’t Believe Her”
Hong-joo sleeps fitfully as she has a dream: She’s lying in a field wearing a broadcast station jacket, looking dead or unconscious as the rain falls. She narrates that she’s having that dream again—it hasn’t happened yet, but it feels like she’s already in that time.
As Hong-joo wakes up covered in sweat, she continues in voiceover, “A dream that feels like I’m still dreaming when I wake up. A nightmarish night, like morning will never come.”
She narrates that the only thing that wakes her from this nightmare is the sound of her mother cooking breakfast, telling her that night has gone and dreams have hidden behind the future. “To me, my mom is the morning that wakes me from the night,” she says.
On cue, Mom comes into Hong-joo’s room to open the curtains and nag her about the state of her room, and Hong-joo mouths all the words along with her and then hugs her tightly. Right away Mom guesses that she had “that dream” again and comforts her quietly.
As Jae-chan gets ready for work, he thinks back to the dream kiss and shakes his head, calling himself crazy. Little bro Seung-won asks if he’s leaving so early to meet someone, and Jae-chan says it’s to avoid meeting someone.
Just as Seung-won asks who the someone is, the doorbell rings with a food delivery from Hong-joo’s house. Jae-chan flails and tries to send Seung-won out to the door, insisting that he can’t do it because he looks too good right now, which would lead to a misunderstanding. Pffft.
Seung-won ignores his crazy talk and Jae-chan is forced to go out, but he breathes a sigh of relief when it’s Mom outside, not Hong-joo. She hands him a whole tub of fish she’s prepared for easy breakfast cooking, and he’s so smiley about her not being Hong-joo that she assumes he loves mackerel.
But when he gets to his usual coffee shop, the Cupid Barista says his coffee’s already been ordered. She says that he and Hong-joo have been missing each other for days, so she helpfully told Hong-joo to come earlier. Hee.
Jae-chan hides out of sight as Hong-joo takes her usual seat by the window, and he sits there watching her crane her neck and get excited every time she thinks she sees him approach.
He finally goes over there and asks if she’s his stalker and has nothing better to do, and why she isn’t going back to work. She says she’d rather look at his face than return to work, and he quips that she just doesn’t want to work.
Hong-joo turns pensive at that and asks seriously whether she should go back. She says it’s fifty-fifty, and leaves it up to Jae-chan to decide for her. He just asks if being a reporter is that difficult that she doesn’t want to return, but she says it’s because she wants to return that much.
When Jae-chan walks into work, Yoo-bum locks step with him and says he’s looking good. Jae-chan: “I was born that way.” Lol. Yoo-bum asks if he’s dating, and Jae-chan says he is… “with my cases.”
Yoo-bum insists that Jae-chan ride the crammed elevator, and then in front of everyone he purposely asks with double meaning, “How far have you gone? When it was me, I was fast—in just one month…” Jae-chan cuts him off, but Yoo-bum finishes by saying that he was awarded for being a top prosecutor in his first month.
He makes a big show of saying that Jae-chan must’ve misunderstood, only to out Hong-joo’s name in front of everyone and brag that he was faster with her too. Ugh, you are disgusting.
After Yoo-bum gets off the elevator, everyone starts whispering that it must be true that Jae-chan stole Yoo-bum’s girlfriend, and he awkwardly tells them that he can hear everything. They advise him to defend himself now, hoping to get more information out of him, but Jae-chan refuses to say anything about it.
He does smile to himself when they start talking about how Hong-joo is the daughter of the samgyupsal restaurant owner and rumored to be very pretty and smart. Chief Choi asks if she’s like Hee-min, who flips her hair in delight at the very back of the elevator, where no one can see her.
But the women say that Hong-joo is on a different level beauty-wise, and Hee-min immediately deflates. They get so carried away that they declare Hong-joo an untouchable femme fatale, and Jae-chan chokes on his morning coffee.
Cut to: Hong-joo holding up a display of her chicken bones left over from last night’s dinner, which she’s reconstructed in skeleton form to show the chicken shop owner (cameo by Kang Ki-young) that her chicken was clearly missing a leg.
She waves her stack of coupons and asks why she’s never gotten a whole chicken’s worth when she orders a chicken, accusing him of using leftover parts to create an additional chicken somewhere. She whips out her phone to say that she has more evidence, like she’s on some kind of investigative special report. Mom finds her like this and apologizes to the chicken shop owner and drags Hong-joo out by the ear.
At their own restaurant, Hong-joo recognizes that she’s wasting her talents on investigating chicken corruption, lol, and Mom confronts her angrily about the reinstatement form she found on Hong-joo’s desk.
Hong-joo says quietly that she’s returning to work, and Mom protests that Hong-joo quit because she dreamt of dying on the job and promised to just work with her at the restaurant. Hong-joo says that the future could change, pointing out that Jae-chan changed things and saved them.
Mom asks if Jae-chan promised to protect her, and Hong-joo says no, but asks if he could change the future, why can’t she? Hong-joo asks why Mom can’t believe in her as much as Jae-chan, but Mom argues that she’s far less trustworthy than Jae-chan, and weaker, and worrisome… and cherished. Aw, Mom.
Mom repeats Hong-joo’s words back to her: “You’re all I have in this world, so don’t leave me alone.” Hong-joo agrees, and Mom hugs her in relief.
Officer Woo-tak and his partner interrupt when they stop in for lunch, and Mom just goes, “Again?”
At broadcast station SBC, the news desk team leader asks Reporter Bong—the one who interviewed the pianist and testified against her father—if Hong-joo is returning to work next week as originally scheduled.
Reporter Bong is her direct superior, but he has no idea, and the team leader complains that they need to know because they’re getting new team jackets made. Uh-oh, are they blue?
At the prosecutor’s office, the staff meeting runs long because one of Jae-chan’s sunbaes wants to pursue a drunk driving case involving a drunk man who insisted that his drunk friend drive them home, which she argues is partially his fault. But the boss shoots it down. When it’s finally time for lunch, Hee-min finagles the boss into choosing Hong-joo’s samgyupsal restaurant, to Jae-chan’s ire.
As Woo-tak finishes his lunch, he sums up what he’s gathered so far about their dreams—that Hong-joo has dreams about random people, Jae-chan has dreams about her, and he has dreams about Jae-chan. He thinks there’s a reason for that, considering it like a puzzle where Hong-joo is Patient Zero of a contagion.
She frowns at that, but he says it’s just a metaphor and that having these dreams is awesome. She thinks she sold her country in a past life to get this ability, but he thinks it’s just the opposite, since they could potentially stop terror attacks and wars. He suggests that the three of them each learn a different foreign language for just such a case. Ha.
Mom smiles and gives the cop another point in her notebook, which puts him neck and neck with Jae-chan.
Hong-joo asks if he’d feel the same about these dreams if he dreamt that he would die, and asks if he’d quit his job if he knew he’d die at work. Woo-tak says no, pointing out that he worked too hard to become a cop, and insists that he would just change the future. He says with such assurance, “It can be changed,” that Hong-joo starts to believe it too.
Suddenly Mom yells at him to get out, shocking him as she pushes him out the door and snaps at him not to call her “mother.” Woo-tak wonders what he did wrong, but his partner thinks it’s his fault for asking for a cash receipt, heh. Inside, Mom scratches Woo-tak off her suitor scorecard in retaliation.
Jae-chan sees Woo-tak leaving just as he arrives with the prosecutors, and inside, Hee-min loudly asks if that’s the famous femme fatale Nam Hong-joo and asks for free soda. This time the group prayer devolves into a four-way debate on the drunk driving case, while Jae-chan awkwardly sets out silverware on the side.
The argument gets so heated that the prayer circle breaks, and they decide to put the case to a vote. Jae-chan is the split but he doesn’t vote either way, saying that he sees both arguments and needs more information before deciding.
Hee-min argues that it’s cowardly not to vote because he’s too concerned with what his superiors will think of him, and looks to Hong-joo for affirmation. Hong-joo doesn’t know why she’s getting dragged into this, but she argues that first of all, it doesn’t seem right to make civil servants pray.
Hee-min argues that the four of them are Christians, and Hong-joo says that only twenty percent of the population is Christian, making the probability of this foursome less likely than the odds of seeing a double rainbow. Thus, she argues, it’s likely that someone here is hiding his or her faith because of the boss (as Prosecutor Lee hides a Buddhist bracelet under his cuff), and that someone who doesn’t pray in this situation is extremely firm in his beliefs.
She looks at Jae-chan and says that she doesn’t think he’s cowardly or concerned about what others think of him at all, and he smiles at her in appreciation. Prosecutor Lee is impressed with her, and Mom looks at her thoughtfully.
The chief prosecutor thinks Hong-joo’s voice sounds familiar, but it’s not until they get back to work that he remembers her as the dogged reporter who always pushed her way to the front of the press line and broke that story about a prosecutor sexually harassing junior employees. They all wonder why a reporter that good would have quit to work in a restaurant.
Hong-joo sees her sunbae on the news and is so distracted with thoughts of other people hard at work that she accidentally slices her finger. Mom runs over and Hong-joo starts to cry, but she covers it up by blaming it on the onions and heads outside.
She ends up walking all the way to the SBC building, but she stands across the street and can’t manage to cross it.
EPISODE 10
The chicken shop owner does exactly as Hong-joo suspected, and takes a piece of chicken away before sending an order out for delivery. Hong-joo happens to spot the owner in the alley out back, where he feeds the chicken to a litter of stray kittens.
Hong-joo sighs to realize that’s what he’s been doing all this time, but she decides not to bother confronting him about it.
At home, Hong-joo looks up at her dream notes and sees one that’s coming up soon. In her dream, we see a boy surprising a girl with balloons and sparklers on a college campus surrounded by all their friends. But the mix of sparklers and spray bottles causes a fire to ignite, and the girl screams as she’s engulfed in flames.
At the same time, Jae-chan has a dream about Hong-joo on that very college campus, being chased down by a group of boys, and crying out in pain as they push her to the ground.
In the morning, Jae-chan and the other prosecutors eavesdrop as Prosecutor Sohn questions the drunk passenger she wants to prosecute. He argues that he wasn’t the driver, but she says he gave his drunk friend the keys, and even directed him towards streets where they wouldn’t be stopped for breathalyzer tests. A little girl is badly injured and her parents died in the accident they caused, but the man claims that he has no responsibility since all he did was get in the car.
Jae-chan asks Prosecutor Lee to swap on-call days with him because he has to be somewhere important tonight, but even offering to take his holiday shifts doesn’t work to convince him. Finally he blurts, “Blind date!” and Prosecutor Lee agrees instantly with a handshake.
Woo-tak dozes off in his patrol car, and he dreams of the same group of college boys running down the street. But in his dream, they’re chasing both Hong-joo and Jae-chan. Jae-chan fights them, but they outnumber him and he’s soon overtaken. Hong-joo lets out a piercing scream, and Woo-tak wakes up.
His partner wants to stop for dinner, but Woo-tak suggests going to the university to patrol first, worried about his dream.
Hong-joo heads out with a fire extinguisher in hand and tells Mom that she’s going to save someone from her dream. She asks Mom to reconsider her returning to work if she succeeds in changing the future, and sets off in good spirits.
Hong-joo arrives on campus just in time to see the proposal event begin just like in her dream. The boy and his friends are all excited, but the girl is decidedly not, and seems distraught.
The spray bottles get dangerously close to the sparklers, and that’s Hong-joo’s cue to unleash her fire extinguisher and douse them all. The girl expresses her annoyance and stomps off, and Hong-joo is so proud of herself that she doesn’t notice how pissed off the boys are that she ruined the whole event.
She takes off running and they chase her all over campus, until Jae-chan yanks her behind some bushes to hide. She asks how he’s here, but he just shushes her and holds her head down to keep her hidden.
He even takes her hand to do some more running, which makes her smile. They nearly run right into the group, but Jae-chan uses a track team as cover and they run alongside them until the coast is clear.
Hong-joo tells Jae-chan about her dream and how she rescued the girl, who also happens to be the Cupid Barista at the coffee shop they go to every day.
Hong-joo asks teasingly if Jae-chan has been dreaming about her often, but he ignores that and thanks her for taking his side the other day in front of his coworkers. She says she was just stating facts, not taking his side, and he smiles at that.
She asks what he’s decided about the drunk passenger case, and he says he’s voted to prosecute. She asks why, when all the man did was hand over his keys, but Jae-chan says it’s because “that’s all” he did—it was minor, but that minor act cost lives, and he could’ve just as easily chosen to stop his friend and prevented it.
Hong-joo says he’s changed. “Because of someone,” he replies.
The college boys spot them from across the street and start over in their direction, when Woo-tak pulls up in front of them and charges them with jaywalking. HA.
Hong-joo and Jae-chan are none the wiser, and Woo-tak just smiles at them from afar.
Cupid Barista, the girl who was supposed to receive the proposal, feels a strange burning sensation on her arm, even though nothing happened to her. (Whaaat, now there are phantom pains from alternate timelines…?)
She gets a call that sends her running to the hospital, where she finds her oppa—the chicken shop owner—crying over their brother’s body in the morgue.
Prosecutor Lee is there with Chief Choi, since he’s the on-call prosecutor tonight, and when he goes over to begin an autopsy, Chicken Oppa wails that it isn’t necessary because he was the driver and he killed his own brother. The prosecutors note that he doesn’t seem to have too many injuries from the accident, but they don’t argue.
Hong-joo comes home and tells Mom that she saved someone tonight, but Mom argues that she never agreed to let her go back to work. Hong-joo tells her that she used to love writing in her diary every day, and would fill it with pages and pages no matter how tired she was. But lately she only ever writes one thing every day: “Same as yesterday.”
Hong-joo says her diary entries from the last year combined are shorter than one day’s entry from a year ago. “I just want today to be a little better than yesterday, rather than throwing it away because I’m afraid of my dreams,” she says.
Mom still doesn’t like the idea of her returning to work, but Hong-joo argues that she’s able to change the future after meeting Jae-chan and Woo-tak. She says, “I learned that there’s one sure thing in my life—that nothing is determined for sure.” Hong-joo promises not to go back to work without Mom’s permission though, which seems to weigh on Mom.
Breakfast is another sad affair at Woo-tak’s house, where the milk is chunky and the toast is burnt. He looks at Robin’s dog food jealously and heads out with a sigh.
Jae-chan wakes up to his house filled with smoke, with Seung-won burning the fish while bragging on the phone to So-yoon that he’s an awesome cook. Jae-chan shouts loudly into the phone, “So-yoon-ah! It’s all lies! Do a video call!” Teehee.
Seung-won chases him out of the kitchen and Jae-chan runs away screaming, “It’s a fire! FIIIIIIRE!”
So that’s how both Woo-tak and Jae-chan end up eating sandwiches for breakfast (heh, this writer did always have good PPL game). Woo-tak is busy studying his dream notes, and he tells Jae-chan that on the night of the Valentine’s Day accident, he felt himself get hit and nearly die, though he can’t really explain why. He asks if Jae-chan has ever felt anything like that before.
Jae-chan says he has, once. He was young and nearly drowned, but someone saved him. In flashback, we see that it was young Hong-joo who’d resuscitated him.
He says that he survived, but he felt like he’d sunk and died in the water, and that feeling was very real.
Woo-tak snaps his fingers and asks if it’s possible that Hong-joo was the person who saved his life, because this fits his theory. He says that when Jae-chan saved his life, he was extremely grateful and wanted to return the favor somehow, and then he began to have dreams about Jae-chan’s future.
He argues that if Jae-chan dreams about Hong-joo’s future, then perhaps she’s the one who saved his life. Excellent deduction, Batman!
Jae-chan scoffs and says there’s no way, because the kid who saved his life was a boy, a really strong boy who liked baseball.
That night, Jae-chan holds the desiccated mackerel over the trash and debates whether it counts as food waste or not, and is embarrassed when Mom sees and asks if that’s the fish she gave them. She invites the boys to eat breakfasts at her house from now on, and when Jae-chan politely declines, she says it’s because she wants to ask for a favor.
She tells him that the reason Hong-joo took a break from work was because she dreamt of dying on the job as a reporter, and Mom forced her to quit immediately. She says that she should’ve stopped Hong-joo till the end, but she couldn’t because she felt too bad for her, not being able to do what she wants in life.
In Hong-joo’s room, she’s near tears when she discovers that Mom has laid out her work clothes, freshly cleaned and pressed. Awww.
Mom asks what kind of food Jae-chan likes, promising to feed him and his brother every morning. He asks why, and she says she wants to repay him for saving her daughter… and then asks him to protect her if anything bad happens.
Jae-chan returns to his house deep in thought, remembering his conversation with Hong-joo about her job. He narrates using Hong-joo’s words from earlier, “It wasn’t that I didn’t want to. I wanted to, but I was scared.”
In the morning, he finds Hong-joo checking out her reflection in the bus stop mirror, dressed for work and pumping herself up to face the day. He narrates, “Face are peculiar. You can see a person’s mood, thoughts, and feelings in some faces like a mirror, while others can hide their thoughts and feelings behind a face like a mask.”
He follows her on the bus from a distance and watches as Hong-joo stands across the street from the station, unable to work up the courage to cross it.
Jae-chan narrates that there comes a moment when you can see the line between a mirror and a mask, as we watch Chicken Oppa and his sister mourn their brother’s death. They cry as he’s cremated, but then on close observation, Chicken Oppa is laughing through his tears.
Cut to: the alley behind the chicken shop, lined with dead kittens. Noooo, not the kittens!
Jae-chan narrates, “That moment when the feelings you didn’t want the world to see show through. When you come to face that moment, don’t close your eyes.” He watches as Hong-joo misses a walk signal, and another.
She shuts her eyes to work up the nerve to cross, when Jae-chan takes her hand in his. She’s surprised to see him, and without a word, he just leads her across the street.
Hong-joo returns to her department and everyone welcomes her brightly. Bong sunbae hardly looks up from his pile of paper shreds (he always seems to have a large pile of tiny somethings), but points to the new team jacket that’s waiting on her desk.
Hong-joo picks it up and freezes to recognize it as the blue jacket she’s wearing in her dream.
She thinks back to earlier after Jae-chan took her across the street. He’d offered to take her all the way inside too, and she warned that she would misunderstand and get clingy and ask him to drop her off all the time and protect her.
But he shocked her with his answer: “Let’s try that then. Cling and ask me to drop you off and to protect you. I will. If that makes you feel safe, I will.” Tears pooled instantly and she’d complained that it seemed real. Flustered, Jae-chan said he meant it, and Hong-joo said she was crying because it was what she wanted to hear so badly.
She grabbed his tie to dab at her streaky makeup, and when he complained, she pointed out that he said he’d protect her, heh.
She shuffled over to him and tried cautiously leaning against his chest, and was surprised when he didn’t avoid her. He even cracked a tiny smile while she wasn’t looking, and slowly reached his arms around her and patted her on the back.
At her desk, Hong-joo finds the courage to pick up her new jacket and even says that she’s happy with it.
Jae-chan stands outside the SBC building for a while, looking at the mark she left on his tie and smiling up in her direction.
COMMENTS
It almost seemed too easy for Jae-chan to suddenly decide not to be afraid of having someone depend on him, when it was so overwhelming to him before. Obviously I’m happy about the outcome, since we knew he’d end up being that person for Hong-joo anyway, despite his fears. I just expected a more involved process to push him in that direction. Maybe it’s as simple as him seeing her fears, which outweighed his own.
In that sense, both Jae-chan and Mom put aside some huge fears for Hong-joo’s sake today, and I’m glad that her professional life took precedent for once and that we got to see her as a smart, passionate reporter who was good at her job. In fact, she seems to be better at her job than Jae-chan is at his, and I’m looking forward to this new chapter that focuses on her investigative reporting.
Woo-tak’s theory about the dream ability as a chance to repay a debt for saving a life is a pretty good one, and seems to be the best explanation so far. It doesn’t explain Hong-joo’s original ability or why she dreams of random people, but it does explain why Jae-chan dreams of Hong-joo and Woo-tak dreams of Jae-chan. At least life-saving is a better reason for the supernatural connection, which seemed flimsy until we learned that Hong-joo did save Jae-chan in their childhood. (Though really, he thought she was a boy?) We should probably just be glad that one of them cares to find out why this is happening to them in the first place.
The phantom pain and lingering feeling that you died is frightening, because it makes me think that the other timeline exists somewhere in an alternate reality. I think it’s just supposed to be a ripple effect of sorts, but maybe it’s the first symptom of contagion, followed by dream visions? I guess we’ll know if Cupid Barista suddenly starts having dreams too.
My favorite part of this story is the way that the core characters are starting to become a little family. The constant focus on breakfast and how the three main characters’ breakfasts always get compared just makes me wish for the day that Mom gets to feed all the kids and Robin the dog too. But that might be hoping for too much, and I’ll be satisfied if Jae-chan takes Mom up on her offer to come over every morning. In the end, it was probably Mom’s sincerity that got through to Jae-chan and made him reach out to Hong-joo. Not because she asked him to, but because hearing Hong-joo’s fears made him want to be there for her, and that desire overcame any other feeling he had. I thought Hong-joo’s reaction was hilarious—emotional, but almost upset that he said all the right things and fulfilled her fantasy, like it was too good to be true. I hope it’s not. It had better not be!
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1 Mel
October 11, 2017 at 9:08 PM
Yay! its here!!
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2 hallie is craving for watermelon sugar
October 11, 2017 at 9:17 PM
Jung Jaechan ♡♡♡
He's so sweet!
As always, thankyou for the recap :)
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hallie is craving for watermelon sugar
October 11, 2017 at 9:26 PM
So, if someday one of the three dream seers save someone's life and that person feel grateful, he/she will have the same ability, right? Ah, so that's why Soyoon's father didn't get the ability, he didn't know that his life was saved so not feel grateful. Then I wish the bad guys will always be bad guys who won't ever feel grateful toward others.
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Too many biases...
October 11, 2017 at 9:45 PM
And I think they all need to be born in the dragon year?
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greenfields
October 11, 2017 at 10:14 PM
The dragon year bit may be a red herring?
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jollibeeislife
October 12, 2017 at 7:29 PM
They should also lick the lid of the yogurt too, lol.
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3 sweetsour
October 11, 2017 at 9:25 PM
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sweetsour
October 11, 2017 at 9:29 PM
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greenfields
October 11, 2017 at 9:43 PM
I also don't believe he's forcing them to pray - but I also don't think that they aren't pandering to him. This is probably the kind of pressure that arises out of a culture - where you don't make different decisions from those of your boss. I watched a scene in Misaeng, where Jang Baek Ki, Kang Ha Neul's character, his boss and another guy at his boss' level, are discussing which of the two women who just walked into their office is more attractive, and Jang Baek Ki sides with the other guy. Later on, said other guy (half-jokingly) advises him to think again before making a choice different to that of the boss.
Of course, this scene in Misaeng is a silly situation, but I was intrigued and looked it up, and it does seem like Korean work culture runs along these lines. My own culture, also Asian (South Asian) is similar - particularly in smaller organisations where your boss may be the head of the entire organisation - though perhaps not to the same extent.
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greenfields
October 11, 2017 at 9:47 PM
(As an example, because my previous boss is/was vegan, people rarely brought to work/ordered from outside any food with milk or milk products (so pizza, cake, sandwiches, etc - nope), and meat or sea-food was simply unheard of. This despite the fact that no one else was vegan and only a few were vegetarian.)
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TM
October 11, 2017 at 11:38 PM
Now that's tough
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Too many biases...
October 11, 2017 at 9:48 PM
I totally get it! Even I'm south asian and the religion group is very important when it comes to a job. Usually catholics have a higher chance of recruitment in a recognized organization in our country.
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too lazy
October 12, 2017 at 4:41 AM
And colleges! So many reservations!
Yes, I'm south asian too.
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Dylan [JooJoo couple, fighting!]
August 4, 2023 at 8:08 AM
That’s, er, not true. As a Catholic myself, it’s harder for us to get a job or a house or anything else because that’s the fun of being a religious minority. I’m sure Muslims might have similar experiences…
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Miranda
October 11, 2017 at 10:09 PM
It is the head prosecutor's fault. When you're in a position of leadership at a company you're not supposed to influence others in personal ways. That applies to religion, drinking, flirting, spending money, etc. If the head prosecutor wants to pray before his meal, he obviously can, but he's instead doing it in an ostentatious way that requires his underlings to either join or conspicuously opt out.
Besides, his "prayers" aren't remotely appropriate even under religious cover because their content is all about scolding his underlings. This isn't about religion at all, it's about a man in a position of authority exercising that authority inappropriately. He shouldn't be starting off group prayers, and he shouldn't be using that time to deliver monologues about work issues. The whole thing's ridiculous.
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Miranda
October 11, 2017 at 10:24 PM
I should note that this is a very Western take on things, but then again where I live there's a firm line - people do cross it, sure, but they cross it knowing they're in the wrong. This is the sort of stuff that gets you a quiet word from a peer, or in the blatant cases, a meeting with HR.
I can say that as a manager, the idea of interrupting a team dinner to pray as a group would be waaaaay over the line. That's basically proselytizing in the workplace. You can practice your religion personally, you just can't impose it on other people, and the same goes for stuff like drinking habits or socializing.
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UrsulaX
October 11, 2017 at 10:47 PM
I agree with you. It's unlikely the boss is unaware of the pressure he is exerting. Even if he is, many private and public institutions discourage anything that could be remotely construed as religious pressure, regardless of anyone's intentions. A manager or boss should show a little sensitivity regarding such matters.
Also, just to add to your point, the emphasis is on withstanding pressure to conform to a religion, not judging the religion itself. Everyone seemed to value Hong Joo's astute observations, so I thought the whole scenario was pretty benign. Plus, I like the way the prayer ritual has become an opportunity for each employee to air or debate grievances. You are right that it's not about religion, but this prayer session was less petty than the first. Instead of alienating the new employee, the employees were debating what constituted a crime. I could respect them for that.
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TM
October 11, 2017 at 11:54 PM
I liked Hong Joo's remark and at the same time I can't completely agree with her. Sure in this drama you could say that they're not all Christians because their "prayer" is strange (I'm not Christian but it's not rocket science to understand that this is not the way they do things). But using her statistics stuff to make her point is not the reason why you could say they're not Christians. Her statistics were all about probability but sometimes probability is wrong (no one would win the lottery otherwise). So yes the probability is low but that doesn't mean they can't be Christians. Anyway just wanted to say that
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UrsulaX
October 12, 2017 at 1:37 PM
I looked at the recap above, and I think her point was that it was highly unlikely, not impossible. If a random stranger told you he/she just won the lottery, you might doubt the veracity of that claim because it's unlikely. In that sense, I think it's reasonable to question something that's unlikely even if it is possible. It's certainly worth correcting a false perception that something rare is in fact common (in this case, the others ostracized Jae Chan as if he were some oddball anomaly).
Two possible objections to her reasoning might be (1) religion is not a random variable and (2) the population at the law firm may differ fundamentally from the country's population and thus not reflect the religious proclivities of the general population. One's religion is not as random as flipping a coin; it's often a reflection of one's personality, background, education, etc. Obviously, it would be silly for Hong Joo to walk into a church and argue that only 20% of the population there is really Christian. It's possible that Christianity is more prevalent among people in certain areas, with certain backgrounds, or in certain professions. Religious discrimination or advocacy could lead to the recruitment and hiring of Christian lawyers, or perhaps that firm tends to have a higher number of Christians for other reasons.
Still, I think that scene was a pretty decent attempt to show Hong Joo had a brain.
TM
October 18, 2017 at 3:06 AM
I was happy they showed she is smart this way too because so far she was portrayed differently. I just can't agree with saying that because statistics say there is only 20% of Christians then you can't all be Christians because that's not true, it's just highly unlikely. And basically that's how I understood this part from the translation of the episode (that it's impossible not that it's unlikely and that is very different). And you just can't judge people's religion only on statistics because it's not something that you can see (contrary to for instance statistics that say that there is a certain % of women and men in population or workplace, because most of the time you know if the person in front of you is male or female)
sweetsour
October 12, 2017 at 7:27 AM
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Miranda
October 12, 2017 at 8:39 PM
If you ostentatiously pray before a meal and encourage the joining of hands and open reciting of prayers as a group, that's a problem. And it's also promoting religion, which is a no-go in most secular jobs.
I don't mind a ostentatious Christian coming in for a light level of mockery when the religion is being used by a head prosecutor to manipulate his team. And yeah, it's using one religion as an example of inappropriate influence, but the religion itself isn't being mocked. Hong Joo's comment is not really statistically viable (people group together and change the calculation, etc) but it's not making fun of the religion - it's making fun of a practitioner who uses the religion to influence his team.
I still don't think there's a good argument here for "the head prosecutor just so happened to pray before eating and his team joined in". He knows what he's doing. He pretty clearly expects them to join based on what Jae Chan experienced the first time they went to eat, and the entire joining-hands thing is way over the top. Very few people take on a management position without understanding that holding a group prayer before meals is WAY over the line. Do I think he's doing it to convert them all to Christianity? Not really, I think he just likes creating yet another group activity where he's the boss/leader.
A religious person might not like this scene, but I'm an atheist and this rings pretty true for me. If religion intrudes on my non-religious life, which it frequently does, it doesn't get immunity from getting picked on occasionally.
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sweetsour
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faith
October 11, 2017 at 10:25 PM
i think we are not supposed to like the prayer scene, actually. writer park is trying to highlight a few ridiculous work culture in korea. this one is more absurd that i've ever seen. the hierarchy culture is so obvious when the head mention seniority to make the lady stop poking him about the DUI case.
even the first prayer scene, they already shading Jaechan, showing that that this prayer scene is actually a work ritual and not voluntary things. but who is the one started, we never know yet.
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Staraga
October 12, 2017 at 3:04 AM
Yes in Korea, hierarchy culture is the basic of their lives. Esp position. i think that's why Koreans are pretty suppressed lots. They literally put the managements on a pedestal and take it like they are lower beings. Often or not, those "CEOs" / "Bu zhang nim " likes to act like they are very relatable but immediately takes offense when they feel you are not respectful enough..
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BC
October 12, 2017 at 6:57 AM
The public agents should be professional and not to "promote" any kind of religion as Hong Joo pointed out. The law shouldn't be influenced by religion as well, it should be neutral. It would be strange and shocking (not only for koreans) if they were muslims and came with little carpets under their shoulders to the restaurant and started to pray their prayers. When Save Me (Rescue me) drama finished lots of people were criticizing Park Bo Gum when he posted an invitation to his church prayers on his media account. He is a most wanted celebrity in Korea at the moment and he has plenty of influence. It's simmilar to some of american actors who don't hide that they're scientologists. Lots of those vivid fans could easily become ones as well. One shouldn't be ashamed of his/her beliefs but at the same time the same person shouldn't impose his/her religion on anybody.
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UrsulaX
October 12, 2017 at 1:54 PM
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4 faith
October 11, 2017 at 9:27 PM
Kang Ki Young is the new Min Joong Gook. or is it Lee Yeo Bum? probably both. what's with kdrama and cat abuse lately ? 🙄
right now the theory for how JC and WT to get the dream is that they are almost in the verge of dying and was saved by someone. then, they profusely WISH that they will repay their savior. and by that WT theory is correct. JC dream for HJ because she saved him and WT is saved by JC. So Yoon dad does not have the dream because he was saved way earlier than WT and he did not wish to repay the deed as he did not know he will die in terrible death.
subway make a grand entrance today LOL. but it seamless created so no complaint there. i will grab subway too if i have shitty breakfast LOL. this is a definitely a better constructed PPL scene. i still cant forget that Hyung and Dalpo went to eat pizza after a tearful reunion scene. 🙄
how scary it is to dream yourself dying while doing your favorite work? everyone can understand her fear. im glad JaeChan is there to support her. even though he has to sacrifice his tie for that 😉 . date fast you two!!
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faith
October 11, 2017 at 9:30 PM
by the way, did anyone notice there is rope around the younger JaeChan's neck during the drowning scene? 😨
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Miranda
October 11, 2017 at 10:10 PM
Yeah, it looks like he was drowning himself.
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faith
October 11, 2017 at 10:20 PM
is it? or someone tried to kill him tho?
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Miranda
October 12, 2017 at 4:21 AM
Since it looks like it’s right around the time his Dad died, I suspect he’s tied himself to a rock and thrown the rock in a river. I don’t think anyone’s trying to kill him, and he’s probably got massive survivor’s guilt, as by now he’ll know his dad didn’t need his phone from home.
es
October 11, 2017 at 10:48 PM
yup, i was wondering about that too.
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5 Riman Rakshit
October 11, 2017 at 9:28 PM
I love how irrespective of his fears, he is there for Hong Joo when the time comes! Also how cute is that tie scene :D wish I could do that with my oppa's tie but he wouldn't like that :(
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Riman Rakshit
October 11, 2017 at 9:32 PM
Oh Sub Wae made his grand entrance today as well, however it was constructed pretty well
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Ek Ladhki Thi
October 11, 2017 at 9:45 PM
Sub-wae oppa is the break-out star of the year. After languishing in minor parts, he finally made a huge impact in Goblin, and it's been a steady upward climb for him.
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HANI
October 11, 2017 at 11:11 PM
Sub-wae oppa didnt bother me for once~
lol
Finally oppa is learning the art of being subtle
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6 Lord Cobol (Kdramas, like water, flow downhill)
October 11, 2017 at 9:39 PM
Woo-tak seems to do a lot of sleeping on the job. At least he's well-rested on the special occasions when he takes the wheel.
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greenfields
October 11, 2017 at 9:50 PM
Hahahaha he may actually be my favorite character. Hong Joo may have tried to figure it out and given up, but I don't understand why Jae Chan isn't more bothered about the how and why these dreams are happening. TO anyone. At all.
Even otherwise, Han Woo Tak has a super cute batman obsession, and a super cute smile. What's not to favorite? :D
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sangmaharani
October 12, 2017 at 1:13 AM
I'm rather indifference about WT Batman's obsession since I am more a Spiderman's stan. 😂 But I seconded the super cute smile part.
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UrsulaX
October 11, 2017 at 10:57 PM
I feel bad for his partner. He is forever waiting to eat or waiting to go to the bathroom. Poor guy.
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7 Lord Cobol (Kdramas, like water, flow downhill)
October 11, 2017 at 9:41 PM
Uh, except for having dreams and saving people. Nothing worth writing down. Nope, nothing.
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sweetsour
October 11, 2017 at 9:52 PM
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greenfields
October 11, 2017 at 10:11 PM
I do sort of agree with you. It's hard for me to frame it right but - while I'm enjoying the drama and will watch it till the end, I also think it's gone a little too far into fantasyland. So much so that there's very little to relate to here. When I was younger I'd have been head over heels for this kind of drama, but now I feel a little distant.
What I mean is - I think this is a story for teens and those still in undergraduate college. Something like 'The Hunger Games' which had wonderful elements of class, poverty , differentiation and more, but which were left unexplored or explored only at a superficial level.
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UrsulaX
October 11, 2017 at 11:38 PM
Ha ha. I feel that my taste has actually deteriorated with age, but I get your meaning. Weirdly enough, this episode feels more grounded in reality than the last to me, perhaps because the hero and heroine seem more respectable than they did before.
In general, shows like this suffer from flimsy logic and gaping plot holes, so it's up to the characters to sustain the audience's interest. Maybe I'm giving them too much credit for being smarter than they initially seemed, but there is something blissfully uncomplicated about the leads that I actually appreciate.
I like a show that allows both its major and minor characters to actually like and appreciate each other in a variety of different ways (as colleagues, relatives, lovers, friends, etc.). Here's hoping the plot doesn't spoil their good natures by becoming unnecessarily convoluted.
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greenfields
October 12, 2017 at 12:22 AM
:D " I feel that my taste has actually deteriorated with age" - made me laugh so much. I may be the same way, in some ways.
The leads are indeed blissfully uncomplicated. Which is perhaps another reason why I find the show to be directed at a younger audience. The only ones with some layers appear to be Han Woo Tak (who remains a mystery) and Lee Yu Beom (who sadly had only one scene in this episode).
SkyAngel
October 12, 2017 at 7:36 AM
I've live in SK for few years and I can tell you one thing most Kdrama are live in fantasy land and far from the reality there, especially with their chaebol characters love with their poor love interest, but hey that's actually what makes people there love it couse they can forget reality for a while and live in drama land.
And we already know from the start this drama will have fantasy element as it's main point, so it will be the writer job to actually make the fantasy element interesting and alive for the whole 16 episodes.
There are some reality drama out there and this drama already said they're not it from the start.
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greenfields
October 12, 2017 at 8:50 AM
That's an excellent point, and I appreciate the perspective of the domestic audience that you've written. Thanks.
I do actually think that an idea of what's popular in dramas gives an idea of ground reality - so where chaebol romances are preferred, it tells me (I may be wrong) that it is VERY difficult to break class barriers, and the poor, no matter how hard they try, are likely to remain so. All the corruption shown among the upper class and the vengeance sought against the same, is probably rooted in some reality as well.
I may be wrong of course.
Lydia
October 11, 2017 at 11:12 PM
I hope not too cos i have loved this writers past works alot. The thing im finding hard to move past is suzys very very poor acting. Its really bad. I used to think people are biased and this is my first time watching her in anything (save for her cameo in you who came from the stars)... now i feel like i finally can relate to where they are coming from. Sigh... i love lee jong seok and that super cute 2nd lead guy though and kim won hae ajussi... so need to hang on.
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alasecond
October 12, 2017 at 3:20 AM
lol.. in the last segment when JC does that voiceover.. how once can't know from one's expressions..
I was like.. Yes go suzy.. no one can ever know what she is doing/thinking/emoting :)
And i don't know if in this context it is good acting or bad...
Whatever, i 'd rather stick with my theory.. girl knows being pretty pays.. and so nothing comes before religiously employing best and industry leading practices to minimize and slow down wrinkles.. Don't move your face muscles :)
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Snowbear
October 12, 2017 at 11:12 AM
Yeah, Suzy... She’s bad. The writer probably even trolled her on the “face is a mask... voice-over”. Hehehe.
Why does she have many projects when her face can’t convey the appropriate emotion during the scene...?
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Manchisymofy1
October 12, 2017 at 11:11 AM
Remember that she has just acted in one dream.... she has been dreaming and peeling onions.....
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8 Ek Ladhki Thi
October 11, 2017 at 9:43 PM
Like I'm not even mad that Hong-joo is so painfully obvious about how much she likes being around Jae-chan. I love her. I also loved that she's a low key really smart person. I'm also glad that I was somewhat on the right track of why everyone Hong-joo touches turns to Nostradamus. I'm anticipating the next few episodes. It's always fun to see how ripple effects happen.
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9 happiness
October 11, 2017 at 9:44 PM
i knew the chicken dude was evil, something about him just felt off... when hong joo saw him feeding the cats i thought to myself "he's probably going to kill the poor things later" the laugh as he was crying was so creepy.
The narration at the end was amazing!
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greenfields
October 11, 2017 at 9:56 PM
Is he evil? I sort of imagined him as Bok Joo's samchoon at first. But then he had a whole other family.
In any case, I think the death's of the cats and of the little brother were the consequence that followed the saving of the sister, the girl in the cafe shop. This means that changing the future does have consequences - balance of life and death and all that - we just didn't know it until this episode. We also don't know as yet what the consequences of other changes have been.
I also thought it may be number of years. The kid and the cats may together add up to the age of the cafe girl.
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Coral
October 12, 2017 at 1:14 AM
It also crossed my mind but I don't think this is meant to be a consequence of their actions. The guy is a psychopath and he was likely planning to kill the other guy from a long time ago. We already saw that the prosecutor assistant has suspicions (the way he looked at him after pointing out that the dead had not injuries as the other guy); also Hong Joo has already paid attention to the guy, it is possible that she finds the dead kittens or something else...My bet is that the three flying dragons are going to chase him, and maybe the other girl will play a role if she is able to dream premonitions too (but I doubt it).
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Ek Ladhki Thi
October 12, 2017 at 9:22 AM
Talking about balance reminds me of something I might have read (or watched) a long time ago. It said that when you change the future by saving someone from death, someone or someones have to die in place of that one person because the count of the living and the count of the dead needed to be balanced or something like that. I can't remember where it was from now.
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greenfields
October 12, 2017 at 10:41 PM
There is quite a bit of fiction with this theme actually. But at this moment, I also can't think of a single story which talks of this.
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Miranda
October 11, 2017 at 10:13 PM
He struck me as... off... as well. Don't know if he's evil or what, but I don't see the cats as being a supernatural death. I think he did something to them.
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Dreamer
October 11, 2017 at 10:34 PM
Also, I think Chief Choi clocked that it was weird that the dead body was cold already. Meaning chicken man had probably killed the younger brother earlier and faked the car accident. Maybe he used the same poison that killed the kittens.
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hallie is craving for watermelon sugar
October 11, 2017 at 10:53 PM
That explains why he doesn't want autopsy to be performed.
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hanbin
October 11, 2017 at 11:14 PM
Did you notice that he wore gloves while feeding the cats? The chicken must have been poisoned.
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TM
October 12, 2017 at 12:22 AM
Well I didn't thought he was evil so I was surprised when I read that he laughed in the recap afte his brother died! I also wondered why the cats died well now I know. I was so sad over the cats' deaths and I'm not even a cat person. I'm not an animal person at all actually
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10 Staraga
October 11, 2017 at 9:53 PM
Its seems to be shaping up a little. WT's theory seems to be on the spot.
Some intervention was done before there the subject becomes aware of what is going to happen.
Example, the cupid barista. She did not know that she will be badly injured and no one knew that HJ has effectively adverted an accident.
Even though she has that phantom pain, she has no way of knowing and appreciating HJ’s action.
However, in WT’s and JC’s case, they were saved in the nick of time with a substantial action (or bravery) from their Saviour. Thus there was a very conscious gratefulness that perhaps draw them together. Also, I am very curious on WT’s backstory. He seems to be highly independent and alone in the world yet he can’t make himself the simplest toast. He also said that it was very hard for him to become a policemen.
Can’t help feeling and expecting a strong reason for that.
Also, as mentioned by Girlfriday, there is a ripple in every action that was taken to rectify, we can observe here that for every rescue the Trio makes, something worse happen. There might be a catalyst somehow triggering a stronger reaction by the bad guys. Example from killing strays to killing a human?
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Mariconnie
October 12, 2017 at 1:42 AM
I agree. I do not think the barista will get dreams because she was unaware that she was saved. Like WT said: the gratitude to thank the saviour triggers it. In JC's case even if he didn't know the dream story like WT, surviving the near-drowning it was obvious someone saved him. He even gave her the nickname 'chestnut'h so there is gratitude there as well.
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Bebot
October 12, 2017 at 4:28 PM
There's also a possibility about Woo Tak being a brother of the soldier that's why all 3 of them are connected. Maybe he became a police officer because of the soldier. If you will havea look at it JC and HJ are connected bec of their father's death and HJ saved JC when they are young. Jae Chan started his dream when WT is going to die. So it's all connected I don't think it is contagious and its bec the people they saved are grateful to them. I think it will be just the 3 of them. If its bec of the reason that the people they saved are grateful and will start to dream too then I will drop this drama when that happens.
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11 nocturnalninja
October 11, 2017 at 10:01 PM
I hope we get an answer to Chicken Oppa's intentions and what made him do those things. Anyway, I loved the OST for this ep! They play it at the right moment and at the right time. Also, they don't put it on repeat unlike other dramas do. They use what's appropriate and it makes the scene more beautiful.
I swooned when Jae-chan said that he'll try to protect her. The scene felt poignant to me and if I were Hong-joo, I'd cry the same. Heartfelt words can always melt your heart.
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12 Cid
October 11, 2017 at 10:01 PM
Hong-joo, Woo-tak and Jae-chan dreams. Hong-joo dreams about people that something like death is going to happen to them so it makes her to interving which then lead her to be in danger due to her decision, this lead to Jae-chan dream about Hong-joo be in danger causing on him to intervine to safe HJ and in the process now he is in danger which leads to Woo-tak to dream, see both but is JC he see is in trouble, and he also react to help them specially JC, so my question is who dream about WT?? If no one does, does it mean that his purpose in the story is to be a sidekick and be able to help JC save HJ and in the process save JC by risking his life at the end?? Intriguing about the dreams and the purpose of them.
Anyway I'm loving this drama week after week, love the characters and all actors and actresses are doing an amazing job.
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13 lezah
October 11, 2017 at 10:02 PM
If he lets you ruin his tie with your eyeliner and doesn't mind... He's a keeper. 😝
I don't have time to properly type what I really wanna say but aksjhkajhdksja the way he grabbed her hand, and the way she just leaned on him so easily... their relationship is so comfortable, and it just sort of... happened? And I love it. It's not overly exciting or wild, but it's 2 people who understand each other and support each other when the other party needs reassurance. It's warm and comforting. 😍
I was so nervous the whole time thinking that HJ and JC would get beaten up, argh!! Thank goodness for WT who saved the day. And I'm also glad that WT was there to reassure HJ that they can definitely change the future, when she was agonizing over whether to go back to her job. I'm honestly so, so glad that they've got him on their side looking out for them, because it seems like there's a lot more in store for our Three Flying Dragons and they need to rely on each other to save the day. 💪🏻
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Too many biases...
October 11, 2017 at 10:31 PM
The moment where she wiped her smudged eye make up from his tie was the best part of the drama for me. I just love it! Imagine, if we did it in real life we'll probably be in jail!
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14 Miranda
October 11, 2017 at 10:12 PM
Anyone else waiting for someone to have a dream about Hong Joo dying in a fire due to her habit of falling asleep with ALL THE CANDLES lit? No, just me then?
I swear, every scene in her room makes me nervous.
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es
October 11, 2017 at 10:55 PM
nope, me too. 🙋
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Manchisymofy1
October 12, 2017 at 11:31 AM
Im totally nervous about the same...!!!
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15 Too many biases...
October 11, 2017 at 10:20 PM
Guys! Didn't anyone notice? Woo Tak always sees the changed future! I analyzed his dreams and he always sees the changed future. First, when he saw so yoon's dad falling from his apartment he saw jae chan there. Which means, that jae chan decided to follow the dream. Second he saw the Park jun mo case finishing nicely. It wouldn't have happened if they called Jae chan and told him what to do. Third , was when he saw Jae chan and Hong joo get beaten up by the gangsters. Jae chan wouldn't bee there unless he decided to go there and change the future and to protect hong joo. Thus, Woo tak sees the changed future!
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Namu 🐧
October 12, 2017 at 1:47 AM
agree
Hong Joo saw the original dream (future)
Jae-chan saw the original and/or after Hong Joo’s intervention
and Woo Tak saw the future that changed by Jae Chan’s action
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ywcnois
October 12, 2017 at 6:19 AM
Except for the dream about what happened in the restaurant..
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ywcnois
October 12, 2017 at 6:31 AM
It would make sense if Hong-joo just dreams about random people, Jae-chan dreams about moments when something bad happens to Hong-joo and Woo-tak dreams about moments when something bad happens to Jae-chan. But the restaurant scene doesn't match up. If this theory was true, Jae-chan would have dreamed about the chopstick piercing through Hong-joo's hand, not (only) Woo-tak. And Woo-tak might not even have dreamed about it, as Jae-chan was not in danger.
I hope the writer has considered this, but I'm afraid it might be a plot hole.
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16 Tiny Grandma
October 11, 2017 at 10:31 PM
Interesting.. I started to notice the pattern of the dreams now! It used to be confusing for me as to why seemingly our three dreamers are dreaming different timelines, but now it makes sense.
Hong Joo is the first dreamer, thus she gets to dream the real future that is supposed to take place. Because she saved Jae Chan life in the past, Jae Chan begun to become a future-dreamer too, in order to save Hong Joo. Now that Jae Chan's actions changed Hong-Joo future and in addition to that, saved Woo Tak's life, Woo Tak joined the dreamers team to prevent Jae Chan's misery (which, would have happened when Jae Chan is trying to prevent bad incident that could have happened towards Hong Joo).
Well built plot, it would be interesting too to have the girlfriend that was saved to be part of the future dreamer team. But then that leads to another question; are all victims of near-death experience becoming like that? I hope there's an answer to the pattern :)
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TM
October 12, 2017 at 2:43 AM
I understood from the previous episodes that Hong Joo dreams of the real future but then I couldn't understand the other guys dreams so I'm glad the drama explained this. I'm just wondering if Jae Chan will dream ALL of Hong Joo's dreams or just the ones in which Hong Joo would be in danger
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Bebot
October 12, 2017 at 4:41 PM
I think Jae Chan is only dreaming about Hong Joo when she is n danger while Woo Tak is dreaming about Jae Chan when he is in danger. That way the 3 of them can change it.
Like now that HJ feels like she wants to save the person in danger on her dreams JC will dream about HJ so he can save her and then WT will dream about JC and he will save him. But hopefully WT will not die in the end I have a feeling that one of them might sacrifice.
As for the 2 saved people WooTak is the one that really died in their dreams. Soo Yun's dad is no connected to them so take him off. The barista lady that they saved in this episode she's just going to be severly burn they didn't say she died. So there's possibility of WT dying at the end but hopefully not.
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17 NP
October 11, 2017 at 10:44 PM
It was hilarious the way Hong Joo confronted the chicken owner over the missing pieces with a full chicken skeleton ROFL, but then it suddenly wasn't funny anymore when I saw the dead kittens T_T. HOW COULD HE OMG
Ok but yea this new fanthom feeling everyone's getting of the accident they avoided is a little creepy hehehe
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NP
October 11, 2017 at 10:45 PM
phantom*
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18 HANI
October 11, 2017 at 11:02 PM
I loving our 3 dragons relationship. Is HWK will be interested in HJ romantically? I hope not. I want them to be friends and interpret those dreams together. And I'm glad that at least HWK actively trying to understand what's going on. I actually buys his theory tbh. Still have the supernatural element to it but at least it kinda probable?
And that Subway PPL? Thumbs up writer-nim. I mean, when HWK eyeing Robin eating his(?) breakfast, I thought he gonna steal some like before. So, l take subway anytime than HWK stealing Robin's food tbh. lol
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19 witheachnewmorning
October 11, 2017 at 11:03 PM
oh shit OK so I love how this writer always has these narrations at the end of the episode which tie in perfectly with the narrative (the smile + dead kittens freaked the hell out of me even though I was already suspicious of chicken guy)
also I have this rly bad feeling that batman will die by the end of this series :( the way they were talking about preventing death made me think about how they might not avoid it all the time? that cheating death once might cause life to keep trying to make u die? I think I got this idea from Goblin but seriously I won't be able to handle it if my favourite character (and actor) died this time :(
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20 prosecutorsunshine
October 11, 2017 at 11:07 PM
@girlfriday, I think you hit it on the head when you said that maybe Jae Chan's turn-around at the end to protect and support Hong Joo is just as simple as him seeing her fears, which outweighed his own. He saw her fears, her mom's fears and I think he genuinely feels strongly for her to be so protective that made him just embrace the present situation. I honestly would have loved Jae Chan flailing around a bit more about his feelings for Hong Joo, being jealous, defensive and all but the last few scenes were so sweet and gave me warm fuzzies that I can live without flailing Jae Chan.
Anyway, some thoughts about this episode.
1. Batman cop is real yo. From his Robin dog, to excellent detective skills (deducing the common factor which triggered the dreams) and the clear inclination to be a hero and fight for justice, Woo Tak's like the kdrama Bruce Wayne minus the mansion, the ladies and the gadgets.
2. I really like how they gave Hong Joo the dogged investigative reporter job storyline. It fits in with the character really well, the sense of justice, saying the truth and helping people out. If Hong Joo uses her dream skills to also do her job better and get a lead on investigation, I think that's an interesting angle.
3. Chicken oppa was totally creepy. When he was crying and then he started laughing, wow, he gave me the same shiver as Min Joon Gook.
Anyway, looking forward to tonight's episode!
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Ek Ladhki Thi
October 12, 2017 at 9:28 AM
I also think that it's pretty awesome that the writer chose to give our 3 heroes the 3 "noble" professions. Journalists, Prosecutors, and Police Officers are normally those who are on the side of truth and justice. It might just be a coincidence on the part of the writer, but I still think that's pretty cool.
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21 redfox
October 11, 2017 at 11:08 PM
I have become a Hong Joo-Woo Tak shipper. He is such an earnest hero wannabe I just can´t. But since he is "Batman" it will never happen :-( But I like his stance so much more!
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Namu 🐧
October 12, 2017 at 1:54 AM
I also curious why, of all the superheroes that exist, he chooses Batman
I hope there’s more backstory about that
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redfox
October 12, 2017 at 7:36 AM
Might be because his dad was supposedly killed and Bruce Wayne also became Batman because his parents were murdered?
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22 kbgrace
October 11, 2017 at 11:25 PM
"Cling onto me" AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH *hearteyes*
excuse the fangirl in me
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23 Snowy
October 11, 2017 at 11:58 PM
Where on earth can a production set get that many dead cats? ._. Can someone please assure me that they were not the kittens shown eating? Lol.
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Fatcat007 (Kitty 💜)
October 12, 2017 at 12:34 AM
They probably put sleeping pills in the kitty's food. So now they are sedated cats looking dead lol.
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beardlesscal
October 12, 2017 at 12:53 AM
I don't think they're real, looked like fake cats to me
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Ginger
October 12, 2017 at 7:14 AM
Yes, I think they're stuff toys. Didn't look too real.
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24 Fatcat007 (Kitty 💜)
October 12, 2017 at 12:31 AM
Woo yak you're a genius!! I'm impressed someone got the connecting dots so perfectly.
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Fatcat007 (Kitty 💜)
October 12, 2017 at 12:32 AM
*woo tak
Dammit autocorrect :-/
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25 panshel
October 12, 2017 at 12:34 AM
I had the same theory as Woo Tak that they dream about the person who saved them which would explain why Hong Joo dreams about Jae Chan. But not only did they meet at their fathers' funeral, young Hong Joo saved young Jae Chan from drowning too? Fate overdose. I wonder if Hong Joo felt like she had died from jumping off the roof. Or Mom felt like she had died from falling down the stairs.
That was exactly what I wanted him to do: take her hand and cross the street with her. It is really sweet how easily he gave in to Mom's request. So are they together now? I had no idea prosecutors do autopsies, and those dead kittens were horrifying. Thanks a bunch for the recap, @girlfriday!
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Sam
October 12, 2017 at 2:18 AM
I think hong joo and jae chan after meeting at the funeral became friends for a while. Jae chan said he called the other guy chestnut so they were close enough to give each other nicknames.
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inkinews
October 12, 2017 at 4:23 AM
Yeah in Korea, prosecutors are more involved in the investigation.
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Amilia
October 14, 2017 at 11:27 AM
Got to admit, I had the exact same thought. Prosecutors do the autopsies?!?!?! While the grieving family is in the room?!?!?! Really???
I knew Korean prosecutors are more hands on than their American counterparts, but that really shocked me. I could see the prosecutor being present for the autopsy, but I would have thought it would actually be performed by someone with medical knowledge.
Maybe this is why it is so hard to pass that stinking test that everyone studies for for years. You not only need to have a complete knowledge of the law, you also need to know enough medicine to be a medical examiner.
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26 Jin Di
October 12, 2017 at 12:54 AM
Does anyone else think Woo Tak might be the younger sibling of the military guy that killed the fathers of Jae Chan and Hong Joo?
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Peridot
October 12, 2017 at 6:56 AM
It's a possibility. I think that the event with the soldier is what connects the three protagonists in some way.
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27 Wang in the north
October 12, 2017 at 1:06 AM
Now THAT was some awesome hair flip.
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28 yumii
October 12, 2017 at 1:33 AM
Choi Dam-Dong seems more astute than assumed each time we see him working.
He immediately sense that there was something off about kitty-killer.
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29 Coral
October 12, 2017 at 1:35 AM
Can we agree that Batman cop is the cutest thing? 😊💕 He was adorable while running around Hong Joo and trying to engage her in some sort of superhero team that will prevent wars and terrorist attacks. He really is a vocational cop and wants to protect people. And I hope Mom forgives him at some point and invites him for breakfast, the poor boy needs it.
As for Jae Chan and Hong Joo, the scene I liked most was when she defended him in front of his co-workers. Awww, the way he looked at her. I think he had a shift in his feelings there. So far it has been a bit of a play, with him dreaming about kissing her...but now it is something else. That and Mom asking for protection, I see how he could not refuse. I also loved how she used his tie to clean the makeup, she is a weirdo, haha! I'm warming up towards this romance and I'm waiting for things to heat up.
And please, someone tells Hong Joo to change the heels for flats. You don't go out there on those high heels when you know you might need to run for your life. That was making me nervous.
All in all the episode was cute and with a feeling of warmth in it. I love how the show includes some everyday life scenes, like breakfast, or working lunchs or throwing away the garbage, it makes the characters more relatable. I like how the group is becoming a small family and hope nothing bad happens to any of them. Can't wait for next episode.
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30 nofrilldaffodil
October 12, 2017 at 1:52 AM
This episode's highlight was the chicken skeleton - I did NOT see that coming.
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sidnerella
October 12, 2017 at 8:18 AM
Really though...I scared my whole household when that scene came up. I guffawed and scared my dog from sleep.
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kineticx
October 12, 2017 at 3:09 PM
I saw the chicken bones from the first episode but didn't understand why they lingered on that shot... Love that almost everything is connected in this show!
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31 wandergirl
October 12, 2017 at 2:56 AM
That sweet declaration from Jae-chan in the end got me all 😍!
Oh and thank God for Dramabeans and recaps - I didn't even notice that Cupid Barista was the same girl at the university and Chicken Oppa was the brother crying over the dead sibling. And they're related too?! Man, what a small world.
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Staraga
October 12, 2017 at 3:24 AM
Drama 101 - Everybody or Anybody is somebody's someone. They basically live and work in 1km radius.
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32 CY
October 12, 2017 at 3:21 AM
I'm impressed with how meticulous writer Park is. At first i found HJ weird since she came across as someone so straight-forward and thick-skinned that you would expect her confidence to reflect in her job or something but she was just jobless and helping out at her mom's restuarant. I also found it weird that YB would date a girl like her since he's so calculative he would probably go after some girl with a higher profile and calibre. But now that we know HJ used to be some famous reporter, everything became clear. Her personality really reflects in her job - her never-ending questions and assumptions and how she was never embarassed of herself...she really suits the job. No wonder YB was dating her, she is really of a high calibre and not some random jobless woman...heh.
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sidnerella
October 12, 2017 at 8:23 AM
I was thinking the same thing in the first episode...why would someone so seemingly shallow and image conscious as YB be dating a girl with seemingly no connections in the professional world. For someone who likes to use people, it didn't make sense that he would keep someone like HJ close to him. Now it makes sense.
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33 Withyakyu
October 12, 2017 at 3:42 AM
I always wonder why everyone has so much time on their hands before going to work. What time does the office hour start? How early are they leaving their home to have such leisure?
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34 BEBEBEAN
October 12, 2017 at 4:28 AM
I think it is because JC is weirded out with the dreams because they're like supernatural and he didn't appreciate having them unlike WT who's very excited about them. So he ignores them. And he's very busy and pressured at work,no time to ponder about other things.
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BEBEBEAN
October 12, 2017 at 4:31 AM
opps! this is suppose to be a reply to someone.
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35 Iris Zhang
October 12, 2017 at 5:32 AM
I reckon chicken shop poisoned his brother and was testing the poison first by feeding it to the cats. A whole alley full of dead cats right outside your chicken shop is pretty suspicious tho :/ and probably bad for business?....
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36 karin
October 12, 2017 at 5:34 AM
May I just swoon over Woo Tak here? 😍😍😍
He is just getting cuter the more I see him. I just can't even focus anymore, just too distracted by his cute smileeeee 😗😗
I hope to see more of him! I hope I won't see him heart broken at the end of the series though, that'd be so sad.
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37 Dermie
October 12, 2017 at 5:41 AM
Jst some few things to say:
How come no one is talking about d ost, they are all so beautiful,loving Suzy's because I love you boy.its jst so good.
Also I was a lil not sure about the chemistry when d show started but everytime jae chan holds hong Jo's hand now,I jst get unnecessarily excited and I like how their skinship isn't as dramatic as other dramas,they hold hands lol me normal people do without the unnecessary slow motion or starring or sound effects directors like to use in most dramas.
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rlg07
October 12, 2017 at 7:33 AM
I LOVE the OST.
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Manchisymofy1
October 12, 2017 at 11:42 AM
ME TOO!!!!.......
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38 latebloomer
October 12, 2017 at 6:11 AM
I like the way this story takes what seem to be quirky things and later gives them meaning. Jae Chan takes selfies everywhere - oh, it's for his father. Hong Joo cut off her long, long hair to prevent her dream from coming real - oh, she had long hair because she promised her father before he died. That slick lawyer was dating Hong Joo - oh, it was because she was a high profile reporter. Jae Chan dreams about Hong Joo - oh, because she saved him from drowning. (I'm waiting now to find out how that could have happened without them knowing each other's names.)
In the same way, I feel like the writer just gave Hong Joo a whole new dimension. Until now, we've mostly seen her quirky behavior. Now it turns out she's an intelligent and intrepid reporter, known for exposing crime and corruption. Held back only by fear of dying. Suddenly she goes from being a sort of "aggressor" to Jae Chan, pushing him into situations and feelings he'd rather avoid, to being someone who needs his protection but is trying to face down her fears alone. No wonder he decided to take her hand.
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sidnerella
October 12, 2017 at 8:34 AM
great points to make. All the reason why I am really enjoying the show. The hidden depth to the characters and their motivations.
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39 Ty
October 12, 2017 at 6:36 AM
1 thing about the show is they really taught me something even with the fantasy element s that seeing future is definitely difficult and changing it is dangerous
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40 Peridot
October 12, 2017 at 6:50 AM
I'm not sure about Woo-tak's theory though. Jae-chan is not convinced of it because he thinks that the person who saved him was a boy. I question it for different reasons. If Woo-tak's theory were right, why didn't Jae-chan start having dreams about Hong-joo much earlier, when they were both still teenagers? He only started dreaming about her after that Valentine's day, many years later. Is there something else that has yet to be revealed, some missing part of the equation?
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Peridot
October 12, 2017 at 7:07 AM
And another thing. For how long has Hong-joo been having that dream about dying on the job? She had already taken a leave of absence by the time we are introduced to her in episode one, right? In that case, were there two deaths in her timeline? When she wakes up from the hospital to find out that she has been framed and that her mother has died, she commits suicide. Jae-chan is able to stop that death and change that aspect of Hong-joo's life. But then we find out that she has another dream of her death. But if she had been meant to die a year after that valentines day crash that killed Woo-tak, why would she have had that dream about dying on the job? That dream was why she took a leave of absence in the first place, but if she was going to die beforehand.....
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Madkdr
October 12, 2017 at 7:13 AM
Didn't she only dream that her Mom died cos of her? She didn't know how or why just that her hair was long and tht's why she cut it.
Jae Chan was the one who dreamt that she leapt of the roof. Got to go watch again.
But - ya - it does not explain why Jae Chan only now had dreams of her.
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Peridot
October 12, 2017 at 9:43 AM
@madkdr and @taehee
She might not have dreamed of her suicide, but the were two possible deaths in store for Hong-joo regardless. What I don't understand is if the suicide would have taken place before any death on the job, why would she have been having that dream of the second death well before we are introduced to the characters and the story in episode one. Her suicide would have happened if Jae-chan had not prevented it, so how could she have had the other dream for so long? If things had not been changed, she would have died by suicide. I wish I could articulate my thoughts differently. This is not very important question, but it just got me thinking.
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ywcnois
October 12, 2017 at 12:13 PM
Good question. A few possible answers:
a) In some miraculous way, Hong-joo wouldn't have died when she jumped off that rooftop (doubt that)
b) Jae-chan's dream showed a future that was already changed. Because Hong-joo was worried about her mom (because of her dream), she wanted to go home quickly and got into the accident. Because Jae-chan prevented this, the 'changed future' didn't happen and her death would once again be the one she saw earlier (but this wouldn't explain why she dreamed about this 'changed future')
c) It just shows that fate doesn't consist of only one option. Both deaths were possible outcomes of everybody's choices.
d) plot hole
Peridot
October 12, 2017 at 1:59 PM
@ywcnois
(b). sounds interesting, but some of my questions remain. As for (d), lol! It could very well be a plot hole.
hanbin
October 12, 2017 at 5:12 PM
I'd like to think that multiple contradicting dreams mean that there are also multiple possibilities and that the choices Hongjoo and Jaechan make will determine which dream will come true or not. I like it. It means that "fate" is not absolute and that you yourself will fulfill which future you want to have.
neocortex
October 12, 2017 at 7:51 AM
Hong-Joo didn't know that she was going to die (at the hospital by suicide, it was Jae-Chan who saw that). Her dream was about her mother dying.
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Amilia
October 14, 2017 at 11:41 AM
We know that Hong Joo has had dreams from multiple timelines before. She dreamed of hugging Jae Chan in the street after the accident, and also of being in the hospital with long hair and learning her mother was dead. And, as we know, there events were in conflicting timelines.
So I am OK with her having dreams of 2 different futures. Little bit worried that she has 2 possible fates where she dies young, but I am going to trust in romcom protagonist privilege and believe she will be all right.
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redfox
October 14, 2017 at 12:01 PM
Oh, nice - Romcom Protagonist Privilege - RPP. Should we call it the Ra-Pa-Pa?
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Amilia
October 14, 2017 at 4:48 PM
Oooo -- I like that! Ra-pa-pa!
Ginger
October 12, 2017 at 7:39 AM
I think Woo Tak's presence that Valentine day played a part in Jae Chan starting to have his dreams. Woo Tak surely must have some link to the rogue soldier who killed both dads. He is now like an angel descending on the scene to save JC and Hong Joo, and I expect more similar scenes to come. But, at the end I'm really worried that he'll have to forfeit his life to save the others, may be to atone the wrongs of the soldier?
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sidnerella
October 12, 2017 at 8:44 AM
I really hope that's wrong because I am just anticipating the buckets of tears I will cry if beautiful, cutie pie Woo Tak has to sacrifice himself. But that seems like a plausible theory. Would also go with his super hero theme.
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Peridot
October 12, 2017 at 9:33 AM
Yes, I think that there is more to the story and that it goes back to that incident with the soldier.
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41 whoopeeyoo
October 12, 2017 at 8:31 AM
Did anyone notice that the guy leading the pack of boys who were chasing Hong-joo (the one who's proposing) was the killer in Falsify AKA the most interesting character in that show? Haha!
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Ginger
October 12, 2017 at 10:53 AM
Ah, the handsome assassin, no wonder he looked so familiar. I am watching so many dramas now just can't place many of the faces. Thanks for the reminder.
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bong-soo
October 13, 2017 at 8:13 PM
Good catch of actor Kang Shin-hyo. I went back to re-watch his scenes and sure enough you are right. On first viewing I had noticed the letter W on the front of his hoodie.
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42 samchunfan
October 12, 2017 at 9:21 AM
Now that we have the reporter backdrop for Hong Joo, any chance we'll see Park Shin Hye/Choi In Ha as a cameo...be great if someone references a Dal Po or Ha Myung too....
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43 bunny
October 12, 2017 at 9:54 AM
I think Woo Tak, Jae Chan and Hong Joo need to stick together and have decent breakfast together every morning while they share their dreams to save the world (and each other!)
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Staraga
October 12, 2017 at 6:23 PM
Yes, they should just do it every morning and analyze their drama and save the world...
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44 bunny
October 12, 2017 at 11:02 AM
Rock solid.
What should I do? Now I wish WYWS airs 8 eps a week instead of 4. 🙈
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Manchisymofy1
October 12, 2017 at 11:46 AM
Me too!!!
Im so impatient....!!!
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45 modernworks
October 12, 2017 at 2:41 PM
Honestly this show is o freaking good. Action, suspense, romance, fantasy, comedy, what more could you ask for?
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46 modernworks
October 12, 2017 at 2:45 PM
Ahhh I love Woo Tak, but Hong Joo and Jae Chan are soulmates. I'm just happy if Woo Tak is happy. He seems to like Hong-Joo, but he can see that she and Jae Chan like each other; and he still seems to be happy! Maybe he'll acknowledge his female colleague (who seems to harbor a crush on him).
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47 EMIZONE
October 12, 2017 at 3:40 PM
Really loved hoo joo when she talked to jae chan's subaenims about their religon stuff in their restaurant........I feel that that cafe girl would soon start dreaming since hoon joo saved her.....love that pace at which hoo joo and jae Chan love story is going
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