Temperature of Love: Episodes 7-8
by LollyPip
Timing can be everything, and unfortunately for Jung-sun and Hyun-soo, they met at a time when both of them were experiencing some pretty huge changes in their lives. Their problem in the past was never whether or not they had feelings for each other, but that they disagreed with how to handle those feelings in the middle of major upheaval. Hopefully by now they’ve learned from their mistakes, because they’re about to get a second chance.
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EPISODE 7 RECAP
On the night that Jung-sun tells Hyun-soo that he got the internship in France, he asks to see her, but she declines. He goes to her place anyway to ask why she was crying on the phone, admitting that he knew because he’s cried like that before.
Hyun-soo starts to recite the adage that men only cry three times in their lives, but Jung-sun interrupts to say pragmatically that anyone can cry whenever they want. Hyun-soo complains that she’s just feeling cranky, so Jung-sun talks her into going for a run.
It cheers her up, and they stop by the river for a stretch before sitting to have a drink. Jung-sun suddenly asks without preamble, “Will you wait for me?” He tells her that she was his first thought when he got the message about the internship, and that he wondered what he should do.
Instead of answering, Hyun-soo turns on Amy Winehouse’s Back to Black, and they listen to the lyrics as they both think back on their time together. As they walk, Hyun-soo says that her scriptwriting teacher taught her that in a love between a man and a woman, the drama begins the moment they break up.
As Amy Winehouse sings the lyrics, “We only said goodbye with words,” Hyun-soo stops and asks Jung-sun if he knows what that means. He says his English isn’t that good, so she translates, and his smile fades as he anticipates what she’s about to say.
Hyun-soo wonders how it’s possible to only say goodbye with words, and says that her relationships always ended completely when the end was declared. She tells Jung-sun that love isn’t very special to her, and that her parents still love each other after thirty years of marriage, but there’s not much to their relationship. She says that she doesn’t want to waste an important time in her youth on something so trivial as love.
She tells Jung-sun that she cried because her dream collided with reality once again, and that it was a particularly hard day. Jung-sun says that she’s difficult to understand, and she says that he is too, but he tells her that he’s difficult in another way. Hyun-soo says that she’s sorry, but Jung-sun tells her not to be, because she gave him a clear answer to his request to wait for him.
But later before leaving the country, Jung-sun still tries to call Hyun-soo one last time from the airport. Hyun-soo is having dinner with Jung-woo, so she decides not to answer his call for the first time ever, and Jung-sun hangs up without leaving a message.
He gives his phone to Won-joon to deactivate, and with a warm farewell hug for his friend, he follows his mother to their plane. On the bus ride home, Hyun-soo returns Jung-sun’s call, but unbeknownst to her, he’s already on his way to Paris.
She shows up for her first day at work the following morning, and Jung-woo points her to a huge pile of books. He says that her first assignment is to read them over and analyze them, to help him decide which ones to buy the rights for.
She tries to carry all the books at once, but she only manages to dump them all over the floor. Jung-woo tells her to go to her desk and he’ll have someone bring them to her, but she says she’ll carry them herself, mystifying him with her independence and stubborness.
Hong-ah shows up later to bring Hyun-soo some food and tell her that she’s already submitted her entry into the writing contest. Hyun-soo tries to shush Hong-ah as she complains that her boss is already working her too hard, seeing him approaching and worrying that he’ll overhear.
She introduces Jung-woo to Hong-ah, whose eyes bug out when she sees how young and handsome he is. She looks him up and down like he’s a piece of meat, then launches into full-throttle flirt mode. She asks him flat-out to buy them lunch, but he just looks uncomfortable and excuses himself.
Once he’s gone, Hong-ah says that she was sizing up Jung-woo because he seems to like Hyun-soo. Hyun-soo denies that Jung-woo is interested in her, but Hong-ah argues that if he weren’t, he’d have fallen for her flirting just now. Hyun-soo just counters that she’s in no place to think about men right now.
After work, Hyun-soo submits her script for Man Who Eats Rare Steak to the writing contest. She tries to call Jung-sun again, but this time the automated message says that his number no longer exists. She’s confused, but she’s distracted when Jung-woo calls her from his office (which is on the balcony overlooking her work station) to ask why she hasn’t gone home yet.
Hyun-soo goes to Jung-sun’s apartment, telling herself that she’s only there because he comes to her place so often and she doesn’t like feeling indebted. She’s shocked when a stranger answers the door and says he’s the new tenant, and she staggers home in a daze.
Hyun-yi reminds Hyun-soo that they’re moving tomorrow and wonders nastily how long her new job will last. Hyun-soo is too upset to respond, stunned that Jung-sun would just disappear without a word.
But then she remembers that in his own way, he did tell her, by asking her to wait for him. She thinks about how she turned him down, belatedly realizing that that was the last time she would see him.
Months go by, and December rolls around. Hyun-soo is hard at work as Jung-woo watches her from his balcony, and he goes down to return a story analysis that he’s finished reading. Ha, it’s for Cheese in the Trap, and she tells him that she’s almost finished analyzing Misaeng.
Jung-woo says that she can drop that one, since another production company already bought the rights. He invites her to dinner, and at first Hyun-soo says she’s not interested, but when Jung-woo levels a look at her, she remembers how he likes to make people do what they don’t want to do and says she’d love to.
He’s all, “Okay, let’s go then,” and warns her teasingly not to try to trick him. He asks if she’s not hungry, or if she just doesn’t want to eat with him. She says she’s not hungry so Jung-woo tells her to go home.
Hyun-soo immediately changes her mind, making Jung-woo grin when she says she’s fickle like that. But her good mood and her appetite disappear when their meal reminds her of the soup that Jung-sun made for her, and she can’t bring herself to eat.
Later, Jung-woo flops on his couch in frustration, and Joon-ha drops by to crash at his place after a late night of shooting. They crack a couple of beers as Joon-ha asks how Hyun-soo is doing, and Jung-woo casually confesses that he likes her.
He says he’s going to ask her out, but Joon-ha warns that Hyun-soo isn’t the type to have flings. Jung-woo tells Joon-ha that it’s not a fling—he’s been watching Hyun-soo for a while, and he says confidently, “She’s my woman.”
Hyun-soo gets a call early one morning, and she’s barely awake to hear that she won the writing contest. That evening, she comforts Hong-ah as she whines about not winning, assuming that Hyun-soo didn’t win, either. But Hyun-soo tells her tentatively that she won, and Hong-ah seems happy for her, if a bit jealous.
Hyun-soo is on her way to meet Jung-woo at the top floor of a skyscraper, and he barely acknowledges her arrival when she joins him. Finally he says he likes skyscrapers because he likes looking down from high places.
Jung-woo tells Hyun-soo that his father was a failed businessman, and that his father lost his mother in return for that failure. He says that his father then became ill, and that he was afraid that Jung-woo would end up like him. So he gave Jung-woo every penny he had to go to the States, in the hopes that a big pond would make a big person.
Jung-woo says that it worked, and he made a lot of money, but his father died before seeing his son successful. He tells Hyun-soo that he wants to make his own family now: “Family is something I can choose now. I think I could live happily with you.” But when he finally looks at her, he sees that her eyes are brimming with tears.
There’s something interestingly soft about Jung-woo’s expression as he watches Hyun-soo cry. He asks if his story was that sad, assuming she’s crying for him, and he congratulates her when she tells him that she won the writing contest.
But she admits that she’s not happy, even though it’s what she’s wanted her whole life. She tells Jung-woo, “I have a man I love, but I realized it too late. I realized what love is only after he disappeared from my sight. He’s my life’s…”
Jung-woo interrupts, flustered and confused, but Hyun-soo keeps talking. She sobs that he asked her to wait for him, but that she didn’t answer his call because she was with Jung-woo. She says that it was the last time he ever called her, asking futilely, “Where can I go to see him now?”
Jung-woo laughs wryly at the situation as Hyun-soo dissolves into tears, but he puts an arm around her and does his best to comfort her.
Five years later, the present day.
We watch again as Hyun-soo confronts her drama’s director for going off script too much, as Jung-sun watches from the stage. He speaks out in support of her and gives her the tiniest of smiles. But in her humiliation at seeing him for the first time when she’s acting her worst, Hyun-soo turns and runs from him.
Jung-sun follows her, but she’s too far ahead, and he can only call out to her not to run or she’ll fall. As she disappears around a corner, he mutters, “I know how easily you fall down.”
In voiceover, Jung-sun says that he was told that the writer wouldn’t be visiting the set, “But Lee Hyun-soo, who has a boyfriend and is now a writer, showed up unexpectedly.”
Hyun-soo runs until she’s out of breath, and Hong-ah and Kyung (the other assistant writer who quit working for Writer Park) find her and ask if she caused a scene. She says that’s not the problem.
Meanwhile, Jung-sun takes off his apron and tells an assistant PD that if the writer doesn’t agree to the scene, then he won’t do it.
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EPISODE 8 RECAP
Jung-woo arrives on set to ask the director not to cancel the shoot. Director Min says his hands are tied when the writer refuses to cooperate and shows up to make a fuss, but Jung-woo tells him that he shouldn’t change the script without telling her.
Director Min sneers that Hyun-soo must be acting out because she knows Jung-woo will back her up. Despite Jung-woo’s pleading, the director cancels the shoot for the day.
Jung-woo goes to see Jung-sun, who’s cutting fresh herbs. Jung-woo sighs over how much the canceled shoot cost him, and when Jung-sun asks cheekily if he’s running low on money, Jung-woo fires back that Jung-sun just feels guilty because his restaurant, Good Soup, is losing money.
Jung-sun isn’t concerned, reminding his investor that he knew the first year would be like this, reassuring him that he won’t let him see a loss. He asks why Director Min won’t stick to the script, so Jung-woo explains that he’s a bit of a diva who only works with new writers so that he can change the script as he likes.
Jung-sun says that he liked the drama Man Who Eats Rare Steak, which he saw while he was in France. He mentions that Hong-ah told him about it, which makes Jung-woo ask if he knows Hyun-soo. Jung-sun says that he does, and that he also knows she has a boyfriend, but Jung-woo laughs and asks who told him that.
Jung-sun thinks back four years to his time in France, when Won-joon and Hong-ah had come to visit him. Won-joon had gone off on his own to explore, and Hong-ah had moaned that she was still entering and losing writing contests, but that Hyun-soo had won one.
Clocking Jung-sun’s excited reaction on Hyun-soo’s behalf, Hong-ah wasn’t happy to learn that Hyun-soo had told Jung-sun all about her drama. She’d asked Jung-sun if he liked Hyun-soo, and he’d answered, “No. I loved her, but she rejected me.” Jealous, Hong-ah had told Jung-sun that Hyun-soo was dating an older, rich, handsome man who doted on her.
Back in the present, Hong-ah drives the writing team home as Kyung finds that a video of Hyun-soo’s fight has already been posted online. Hyun-soo has other things on her mind, and she asks who hired the chef who was on set today. She assumes that Hong-ah didn’t know about it when she freezes at Jung-sun’s name.
Awww, Won-joon is finally following his dream, working as the sous chef at Jung-sun’s new restaurant. He stays late at Good Soup working on a recipe, and Jung-sun deliberately sneaks up on him and startles him. He tells Won-joon that he saw Hyun-soo today, but that she ran away from him.
He wonders if he’s a horrible memory for her, though he can’t think of anything he’s done wrong. Won-joon suggests that Jung-sun ask her himself, offering to give him Hyun-soo’s number. Jung-sun declines, saying that he doesn’t want to force things.
But he caves, and later he stands on the roof trying to work up the nerve to call her, though he resists the urge to save her number in his contacts. But when Hyun-soo’s phone rings (while she’s looking up Jung-sun online), it’s Jung-woo on the other end, who says that he blocked what articles he could about her tantrum today, but warns her to brace herself for the backlash on social media.
Good Soup’s kitchen is bustling the next day as Jung-sun and his chefs prepare for service. The mood is lighthearted as they tease the maknae, Min-ho, who complains when they all coo that he’s cute. Jung-sun is all, “He doesn’t like it, so stop it, no matter how cute he is.” HA.
Jung-sun is called to the dining room, where he finds his mother setting out flower arrangements. She asks him to reserve a table because her boyfriend Daniel is coming for lunch, and asks him to come say hello while Daniel is here.
Hyun-soo is so stressed that her hair is falling out at an alarming rate. She and Kyung join Hong-ah, who’s busy “liking” any negative comments posted by netizens about Hyun-soo’s outburst yesterday. She shows Hyun-soo the comments, sparking an argument between Hong-ah and Kyung, who both work as Hyun-soo’s assistant writers on her current drama, Unruly Detectives.
They’re joined by the drama’s chief producer, CP Yoo (cameo by Ryu Jin), who pleads with her to apologize to Director Min. Hyun-soo says politely that he’s completely changed the theme of her drama, and that she’s lost her way.
This gets back to Director Min, who complains to Writer Park, Hyun-soo’s old boss. He’s gotten hold of all of Hyun-soo’s scripts for the entire drama, and Writer Park offers to fix it for him ad take over, kissing up to him shamelessly.
Over lunch Jung-sun’s mother requests that her son come out to say hello, but her boyfriend Daniel says that he knows Jung-sun doesn’t like him. He’s gloomy and negative, grumbling that the best thing he ever did was not have kids even though he was married twice. Jung-sun’s mother says that it’s surprising, since it’s not like he has a problem in that area.
Daniel gets upset, thinking that she’s insulting his virility. But she plays him like a fiddle, pushing all the right buttons until he’s praising her for acknowledging a man’s true value. Gag.
Jung-sun finally shows up to offer Daniel a painfully polite greeting before heading back to the kitchen, barely suppressing his eyeroll.
Jung-woo invites Hyun-soo to talk, but she knows he wants to talk about her fight with Director Min. She complains that he’s like a parent who keeps stepping in to handle his child’s problems. She says this kind of thing happens all the time, and that it’s her job to fix it.
A man covered in blood leads a car chase through the streets, screaming at his brother, who’s in the car with him, for betraying him. It’s Hyun-soo’s drama, which she’s watching with Kyung, and they note that the lines were changed again.
Hyun-soo takes a call from Shin Ha-rim, the lead actor (cameo by Ryu Seung-soo), who has complaints about his lines not being manly enough. He pulls rank on her, lecturing her to listen to someone who’s been in the business a lot longer than her.
One of Jung-sun’s chefs is addicted to the show, and a big fan of Shin Ha-rim’s. Won-joon impresses him by saying that he knows the show’s writer, and the chef asks him to call her and cheer her up since she’s taking a beating online.
Jung-sun overhears this, and he goes online to post an anonymous supportive message to Hyun-soo. That is so adorable.
CP Yoo mediates a discussion between Hyun-soo and Director Min at the station, though the latter makes it obvious that he thinks this is a waste of his precious time. Hyun-soo humbly agrees to let Director Min make changes to the script, so long as he tells her the changes beforehand.
Director Min pitches a fit, but Hyun-soo refuses to back down, even if it means she’s fired. The CP says that won’t happen because he likes her storytelling style, and tells Director Min to stop adding in so many expensive explosions, heh. Director Min snaps that this is why the CP sits behind a desk instead of directing, accuses him of taking bribes from the production company, and storms out of the room.
Afterward, Hyun-soo finds Jung-woo waiting outside to take her to dinner. But she stops in her tracks when she sees that he’s brought her to Good Soup, which she knows is the name of Jung-sun’s restaurant, and she refuses to go inside. She claims that she’s tired, but a voice calls out, “No matter how tired you are, you should still eat.”
It’s Jung-sun, who walks up to Hyun-soo, and she stiffens nervously. Jung-woo steps away to take a call and Jung-sun steps closer, asking Hyun-soo why she’s not running away. He says she ran the last time she saw him, and he asks if he did something wrong.
Hyun-soo can’t even look at him as she says that it was just an awkward situation. She uses the pronoun “jagi” like she did when they first met, and he quips that it makes them seem close. Hyun-soo falls right back into the same banter they shared the first time she used that word, finally looking at Jung-sun in her irritation. He smiles, and she can’t help herself and smiles back.
With the ice broken, Hyun-soo relaxes and congratulates Jung-sun on becoming a chef. He returns the congratulations, and they both say that they haven’t really earned it yet. Hyun-soo notes that Jung-sun sounds all grown up, and he fires back that if he’s an adult, it must mean she’s old now. Ha.
Hyun-soo says that Jung-sun has grown annoying, and he shrugs and says that growing is good. Losing a bit of her tenuous good humor, Hyun-soo asks why he disappeared without a word, only to show up now and act all cynical. Jung-sun drops the smile, asking if she forgot that she didn’t take his call.
Hyun-soo snaps in a quivering voice, “How can I forget? Do you know how much I regretted it, and how much it hurt?” Jung-sun asks why she regretted it and why it hurt, but Hyun-soo freezes up, unable to think of an answer that doesn’t expose her most vulnerable feelings.
Finally she says to forget it, that it’s in the past. Jung-sun says that she has a big-shot boyfriend and her dream of being a writer came true, and he asks again, “So why did you regret it, and why were you hurt?” He waits for an answer, but they’re interrupted by Jung-woo, who asks why they’re still outside.
He peers closely at the two of them and says in a dry voice, “Someone who didn’t know you might think that you’re having a lovers’ quarrel.”
COMMENTS
Okay, I love me some Jung-sun, but that was harsh to just leave without even saying goodbye to Hyun-soo. I know he tried to call her and she didn’t answer, but did he leave a message? Did he have his friend let her know how to reach him if she wanted to? Did he even tell her the date he was leaving? No he did not, and I’m mad at him for that. Of course he was hurt that she rejected his request to wait for him, and that she even called what they had trivial and not worth waiting for, and that’s understandable. But they were still friends, and the day that you’re leaving the country for five years doesn’t just sneak up on you. Jung-sun knew that there was something between them despite Hyun-soo’s decision not to pursue it, and it’s frustrating that he has no idea that his leaving the way he did would have hurt her.
Especially when Hyun-soo really was doing the mature, responsible thing by not promising to wait for him. She was at a stressful place in her life, unemployed and nearing thirty, and from her perspective he was a young kid with stars in his eyes and unrealistic ideas about romance. Both of the options he proposed were impractical—he was either offering to give up his dream for a woman he just met, or asking her to wait five years for him to return, based on little more than a mutual love of food and one (admittedly amazing) kiss. By turning him down, Hyun-soo was being very responsible, and while I don’t think that Jung-sun was being deliberately cruel by not telling her when he was leaving and never calling her again, he still hurt her by disappearing without a word.
But as much as I admire Hyun-soo for doing the right thing and not making any promises to Jung-sun, I also sympathize with her immediate and overwhelming regret once she realized that he was really, truly gone. She wasn’t expecting him to just disappear like that, and to know that he had tried to call her and she had ignored his call had to be devastating. In the back of her mind, Hyun-soo probably expected Jung-sun to talk her into waiting for him like he talked her into everything else, and so she was crushed when she realized that she’d missed the moment that might have changed everything.
I haven’t said much about Hong-ah because I’ve been trying to get a good read on her, but she really began showing her true colors this week. She professes to be devoted to Hyun-soo, yet she has no problem telling lies to keep her and Jung-sun apart (such as telling Hyun-soo that Jung-sun is a playboy, and telling Jung-sun that Hyun-soo has a boyfriend). She seems to think that she’s entitled to whatever she wants, even Jung-sun, who has always been friendly but kept a very firm line drawn whenever she tries to push for more. But what really revealed who Hong-ah truly is was how she takes such quick offense when a man even looks at her, saying that it makes her feel dirty, but she did the exact same thing to Jung-woo when she met him. She’s a hypocrite of the worst kind, and no true friend to Hyun-soo or Jung-sun.
When we saw Jung-sun with his kitchen full of adorable chefs, I finally figured out what show this drama reminds me of: Coffee Prince. It has that same grainy, nostalgic feel to it, and it touches on a similar concept of making people happy through food (and drink) as an experience, not just something to eat and forget. Jung-sun shows his caring for others through his food, which is something I can strongly relate to. I can only hope that Temperature of Love turns out even half as great as Coffee Prince—if it does, we can all consider ourselves extremely lucky.
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1 namedx
September 27, 2017 at 3:04 AM
Completely and utterly charmed by this drama!!Thank you so much for recapping the series, Lollypip! <3<3<3
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namedx
September 27, 2017 at 3:09 AM
Oh, and can Kim Jae Wook please get his own drama!! The guy is too much of lead material to be playing 2nd best. Totally gives the lead a run for his money, but then when yang-she Jong enters the screen again, I melt into a puddle of goo. Replayed that last scene a good 3-4 times - loving the chemistry. x
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wandergirl
September 27, 2017 at 3:37 AM
Yang Se-jong just disarms me everytime he's on the screen. 😍
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namedx
September 27, 2017 at 3:41 AM
Ah it's my first time watching him on screen so I fell extra hard it seems!
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하데스
September 27, 2017 at 5:24 AM
I wouldn't say he's giving the leads a run for the money so much as it wonderful to see most of the actors, leads and otherwise, doing a bang up job which just makes the drama that much better.
Has KJW really not had a lead role yet though?!
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thekimchikorner
September 27, 2017 at 6:43 AM
I second that! Kim Jae Wook needs his own drama....now. lol
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pickledplumtree
September 27, 2017 at 7:16 PM
Yes X 1000!
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skelly
October 1, 2017 at 4:34 PM
I am pleasantly surprised, really, about the acting from ALL of the leads. They are all doing a fabulous job, and they have been given really good material to work with - all four main characters have good points and flaws, an interesting backstory and a lot to overcome.
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curly
September 27, 2017 at 7:20 PM
Exactly. This drama is enchanting! Really! But I can't help to fall for Jung-woo during that confession scene! His expressions and the way he looked on Hyun-soo. Waaaah. 😍💖😍💖
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2 Rachel
September 27, 2017 at 3:12 AM
I just have to say this: TWO HOUR-LONG EPISODES A WEEK IS NOT ENOUGH!!
Am loving this show more and more with each episode. I quite liked that they didnt dwell longer than an episode with Hyun Soo and Jung Sun separated cuz that would have just been extra heartbreaking. But if it was 5 years later and Jung Woo has liked Hyun Soo since then, it means he has liked her for 5 years!!! I'm still on team Jung Sun/ Yang Se Jong but I really respect Jung Woo's 5 years of unrequited love for Hyun Soo.
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3 kenpachi25
September 27, 2017 at 3:18 AM
Ahh. This show is soo good. Please continue to be good, show-nim!
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4 hanny
September 27, 2017 at 3:23 AM
Who does get second lead syndrome?? I like Jung Soon and his charm, but d*mn Jung Woo steals my heart!!
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5 jewel
September 27, 2017 at 3:25 AM
yo im not much of a commenter and i havent read any recap since i discovered db years ago, but i did both just now and this early (was i waiting for this recap?)! guess i finally found a drama a finish. (been dropping almost everything for the past 3yrs) im happy for myself :-)
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6 wandergirl
September 27, 2017 at 3:34 AM
Loved that Amy Winehouse bit: "We only said goodbye in words", which rings true to Jung-sun and Hyun-soo's farewell drinks along the river. They said goodbye, but their hearts didn't.
It's going to be interesting to watch how Jung-sun and Hyun-soo will reconnect and relearn each other's personalities and quirks. As a viewer, I'm excited and I want it all NOW, but I also get the feeling that this one's probably something that gets better through a good simmer. A slow burn drama, which I seem to like these days.
I'm sad that they're turning Hong-ah into a petty frenemy, while Jung-woo will be part of a cliche love triangle. I know they need it for conflict, but I really don't want the drama to resort to that. I'm hoping I'm just getting the wrong interpretation from the teaser clips.
Is it just me, or one of the Good Soup chefs (Min Ho?) is somewhat inspired by Kwak Si-yang's character in Oh My Ghostess? I've only seen one episode of OMG but I'm getting the same vibe. Also, how cool is it that Jung-sun's doctor friend, Won-joon, is now his sous chef! Now that's one side character I'm rooting for.
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es
September 27, 2017 at 3:40 AM
SAME, i keep hoping that hong-ah isn't going to turn out to be the jealous, backstabbing friend trope, but all the signs are pointing in that direction, and it makes me sad. :(
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하데스
September 27, 2017 at 5:32 AM
I trust that this drama will not go down the pothole riddled road that most dramas go, but along the road less travel, or better yet, a newly discovered trail. So I'm hoping that we wouldn't get a silly, trite, infuriating, and nonsensical love triangle. Please drama, you're better than this. And if you aren't, just one or two eps, max.
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Rainbow Unicorn
September 27, 2017 at 7:35 AM
Amy Winehouse .. <3
"He left no time to regret...Me and my head high..And my tears dry.. Get on without my guy
We only said goodbye with words.. I died a hundred times..."
<3
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growingbeautifully
September 27, 2017 at 9:33 AM
I thought that with those song lyrics, HS would say something profound ie that words do not mean goodbye or something along those lines, but what the heck! She practically told him to disappear, because that's what she wanted for all her relationships, and so he did. I was so disappointed in the way she used those lyrics! 😒
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Yuyuu, The Drama Queen
September 27, 2017 at 1:13 PM
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Yuyuu, The Drama Queen
September 27, 2017 at 1:53 PM
When she said that, Jung-sun's face broke my heart.
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rentenmann
September 28, 2017 at 7:42 AM
Ugh, same here. Poor guy. 😞
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7 es
September 27, 2017 at 3:36 AM
i can't believe how enchanted i am by this drama, and i hope it continues to be just as charming as these first few episodes, because i don't know how i'd deal with the disappointment otherwise HAHA. the writing feels realistic and heartfelt (i can't believe this is the same writer who wrote high society) and the directing adds this lovely, reflective touch to it, but it's really the two leads i'm most enjoying right now - they're really hitting it out of the park with their characters and mutual chemistry. although my favourite thing about these first few episodes is how adeptly the notion of timing in relationships has been handled - that it wasn't some dramatic external obstacle that had stopped them from coming together, but the mere commonplace fact that they were just facing vastly different crossroads in life, and were simply trying their best to live their lives, as you do.
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8 Sunfower23
September 27, 2017 at 3:38 AM
I absolutely agree with the fact that he shouldn't have disappeared without telling her anything. It's harsh. Especially when he knows how she changes her mind all the time. She always said it " she fickle like that". But what I like about him, it's that I am secure about the fact that the devil Hong ah won't have her ways with him. So yes there will be drama but once he will know the truth about her being single and her strong feelings about him, I’m pretty sure he will do anything to have a second chance with her.
I'm sad that there is another female character like this - can we have for once two females being friends but really friends without any backlash, petty behaviors such as lying, jealousy etc. I don't get it, there is real friendship between women, it does exist. I don't think it was necessary. She could have been an interesting character without it.
But I do love the show. I hope there won’t be any useless drama and more of adorable interactions between our couple.
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🍙 kimbap noona
September 27, 2017 at 5:00 AM
I like that Hyun--soo is self-aware and admits that she is fickle, but I am perplexed by her comment regarding her parents' love and marriage not being that special when we can see she and her sister clearly enjoy and benefit from their open affection toward each other and to their children. I can only fathom that she really does not mean it when she says that she believes love is trivial despite during a tumultuous time of her life.
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하데스
September 27, 2017 at 5:35 AM
Yeah, I didn't quite get the parents comment either.
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PakalanaPikake
September 27, 2017 at 8:23 AM
There are times when I wonder just how self-aware Hyun-soo really is. Her ability as a judge of character doesn't seem to be so hot, either. She appears to be totally clueless as to Hong-ah's true character and agenda.
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⭐ Sera The Ms Temper ⭐
September 27, 2017 at 9:05 AM
I don't think she has the ability to judge someone's character, especially it is quite obvious Hong-ah doesn't seem to hide her true character totally.
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PakalanaPikake
September 27, 2017 at 10:45 AM
Hyun-soo's inability to judge character makes me wonder how the heck she could possibly become a drama writer. This does not compute for me at all.
lexyk
September 28, 2017 at 6:09 AM
I actually think Hong-Ah is pretty good with hiding her true colors. I dont think Hyun-Soo is a bad judge of character, I think anyone in that situation and at this point would not have been able to know that Hong-Ah was indeed a selfish, hyocrite "friend". If we, viewers, had not seen Hong-ah telling lies to JS and 'liking' all those negative comments we wouldn't have been able to know that she is in fact a wolf disguised in sheep's clothing. In the first two episodes, she seemed really sweet and sincere in her friendship with Hyun-Soo. I mean, I dnt think I would have realized she is an hypocrite if I were Hyun Soo, unless I actually find out about what she is saying or doing behind my back. I think Hong-ah even didn't know she could go to that extent. I think she just always enjoyed the fact that their friendship was imbalanced. And she seems to be liking attention, so I think now the dynamic between the two friends has changed but only for Hong-ah and she feeling jealous of the attention that Hyun so has: her career going well, Jung-soo being in love with her, etc.
⭐ Sera The Ms Temper ⭐
September 27, 2017 at 9:02 AM
I'm curious about how she views her parents' relationship because for her it isn't special. So what does 'special' means to her? I hope this drama will get back to it. I do think she was at one time thought love is trivial thing for her life, but she did have a thought she would have get married after 5 years later, by the time Jung-swoon compeleted hus study.So I'm interested to know more about her views about marriage, and relationship.
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PakalanaPikake
September 27, 2017 at 11:15 AM
Good point about what Hyun-soo means by "special." It may be that her parents' marriage seems boring because they "just" love each other for 30 years. It's mundane, pedestrian, predictable. It's normal. Not exciting except for the love birds themselves, who take joyful pleasure in each other's company.
Re: Hyun-soo's statement that she'd likely be married by the time he returned in five years, this reminds me of the voice over early in the show when she said that she quit her job at a good company to pursue her dream of writing, but it was taking a lot longer to accomplish. And that was before Writer Park fired her.
I have a feeling that she does not have a realistic sense of the time and effort required to succeed at her quest. It parallels her being a poor judge of character (Hong-ah).
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TM
September 27, 2017 at 11:36 PM
I think she doesn't think her parent's relationship is special because she's used to it so it's normal. Just like when you say to people you live in a certain country they will be envious for any kind of reasons but to you it's quite normal because it's the country you live in so it's nothing special to you.
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es
September 27, 2017 at 5:48 PM
i was puzzled by it too, but my personal interpretation was that hyun-soo was just taking her parents' happy relationship for granted - that because she's seen and been surrounded by that kind of love her entire life, it makes her think that it's not really something worth chasing after, when she has seemingly more important worries in life.
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PakalanaPikake
September 27, 2017 at 9:00 PM
It's possible that Hyun-soo's parents are having so much fun that they don't seem to be expending any effort or sacrifice in their relationship. Why? They could truly be ultra-compatible. They could be practicing Confucianists who sincerely cultivate harmony. Or maybe they came to a meeting of the minds long before their kids were born -- so Hyun-soo has never seen healthy conflict -- or any conflict at all -- between them. Absence of conflict = boring?
Hyun-soo recited to Jung-sun her writing teacher's credo to the effect that in relationships between men and women, the drama doesn't begin until they break up.
That may be all well and good for a drama production in which the omniscient writer concocts the scenario, invents the characters, and basically functions as a puppet master pulling all the strings. But in real life, no one is omniscient, people have free will, and nothing is predictable. It's ironic that in her capacity as a writer, she does the very thing to her characters that Jung-woo does to his employees: she pushes them around. Since they are fictional, no harm done. But when she is on the receiving end of that same kind of treatment, she doesn't like it.
Who the heck is her writing teacher? I hope it's not Writer Park, a drama queen if ever there were one.
What does this quote say about Hyun-soo? That she prefers three-act structure with a central conflict to kishotenketsu (four-act structure without conflict)? Does she prefer melodrama and makjang to slice of life? (See my fan wall for articles on kishotenketsu.)
Didn't sister Hyun-yi and their male friend tell her she's lousy at writing romances, which is why she writes action dramas? Hyun-soo makes it sound as if she has had numerous relationships, and that she was the one who called the shots. This makes her sound like a control freak -- yet another parallel with Jung-woo. I'd love to see a flashback showing all of her past relationships, especially the breakups. She may be talking through her hat. It would be interesting to see her former boyfriends' versions of their relationships. Her shortcomings as a judge of character may have been a contributing factor.
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supyangbaik
September 27, 2017 at 9:41 PM
Yes, apparently she can't write romance/melodramas. I believe it's because she has never been in love and as she says, love is trivial? Her sister even says she wishes HS will get her heart broken once. I guess HS is always the one ending the relationship for whatever reason.
하데스
September 27, 2017 at 5:38 AM
I was really disappointed in the Hong-ah character as well. At least we have Jung-sun who is mostly aware of who Hong-ah is. But I'm the opposite to you with Jung-sun pursuing Hyun-soo. I agree with @lollypip. I want Hyun-soo to pursue Jung-sun.
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⭐ Sera The Ms Temper ⭐
September 27, 2017 at 9:07 AM
Yes, I want to see Hyun-soo pursuing Jung-swoon this time. But hopefully the process won't be that hard lol.
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PakalanaPikake
September 27, 2017 at 10:50 AM
Call me a meanie, but I hope that Hyun-soo has to work her ass off to win Jung-sun back. Her flippant, dismissive attitude irritates me no end. Grr.
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하데스
September 27, 2017 at 1:30 PM
No, no, please no. I want this drama to be more than just getting together officially. It could be so much more. A decent amount of work, fine, but not a whole drama's worth.
PakalanaPikake
September 27, 2017 at 9:28 PM
@hades,
"I want this drama to be more than just getting together officially."
So do I. ;-)
Please let me rephrase that. I want to see Hyun-soo work her ass off to grow up, wise up, and learn to pay attention to what's going on around her. I want her to become a better judge of character. I want to see her cease being so self-centered. I want to see her learn to play well (and fight cleanly) with others, and stop knuckling under to bullies like Writer Park. I want her to learn how to stand up for herself professionally and in her personal life without being a hysterical nutjob. I want her to learn to cultivate detachment, and to think more quickly on her feet. I want her to become more thoughtful, and to learn to engage her brain before opening her mouth. I want to see her let go of her snarkiness and flippancy and become a person who has genuine consideration for others and puts herself in their shoes. I want her to start living life instead of avoiding it under the pretext of workaholic career development. I want her to become honest with herself and others. I want her to become able to recognize and appreciate good people when she meets them -- because it takes one to know one.
CatoCat
September 28, 2017 at 8:28 AM
I vouch for it and the below long comment.
But you are asking too much from Hyun Soo. As per drama logic she will start considering others feelings more in the future episodes, isn't it?
9 namedx
September 27, 2017 at 3:52 AM
I'm not going to be too hard on Jung-sun for leaving the way he did (although the fact that people in dramaworld never seem to have a way of contacting someone once they've left the country is just beyond me, but whatever) because it shows a difference in their age and how they deal with things. Just as we see Hyun-soo as doing the right thing, I can believe that jung-so acted in a way that he felt best. And I like how that just lead to things hanging in midair - makes their future interactions a whole lot more interesting. I do feel more for Hyun-soo though, perhaps because I can relate to her position & age! But I can also relate to how people make regretful decisions at different points in their lives; now just need to see if Jung sun comes to that realisation the way Hyun soo did. Kudos to the writers if this continues in the same direction as it has done - please don't fail me, drama!! *fingers crossed*
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purebristles
September 27, 2017 at 4:36 AM
Actually I can believe that JS left like that because this is how I broke up once. We wanted honesty for clarity, but I also wanted to be protected from any further pain that I felt it was simpler and better to cut off all ties and put it out of mind.
I don't claim to have JS' clarity, but I can understand and emphatise how after being emotionally hurt by his mother who just takes from him and never gives, that he simply chooses his own path and walks down it until the end.
In this, JW and JS aren't so different, which is possibly why they are drawn to each other.
I shouldnt have started this drama, it's really making my heart ache.
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하데스
September 27, 2017 at 5:42 AM
I agree in that the person who Jung-sun is made sense for the way he left. He tried, it didn't work out, move on. I think he even talk about this part of his nature before. I'm not saying that it was that easy for him to do though, but just that I understand it.
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PakalanaPikake
September 27, 2017 at 11:04 AM
You're right. I recall Jung-sun telling Hyun-soo that he doesn't chase after women who are not interested.
His leaving the way he did made sense to me.
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Yuyuu, The Drama Queen
September 27, 2017 at 1:31 PM
Yeah, considering who Jung-sun was...his departure made sense to me. Especially with a mom who always takes but never gives, I feel like he's not the sort to beg for affection/ attention.
But I hope that this time around, he'll learn that sometimes love is worth fighting for (as cheesy as that sounds).
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10 moochie
September 27, 2017 at 3:59 AM
I wonder if Hong-ah means Snake in korean. lol. But props to Jo Boa for making her character so annoyingly snakey, in some other drama her characters antics might be seen as comedic and somehow likable(think of Heirs Rachel) but Jo Boa managed to really plant a seed of distaste in me for her character.
I'll be honest and say that I totally did not understand what the heck was happening between Crazy Mom and Boytoy Daniel. Is Crazy Mom parttimingas a SugarMama too??? because that's the only thing I was able to get from their conversation. Also, I think I can see now how Crazy Mom drove Dentist Dad up the wall. (Not saying the Dentist Dad was justified but heck, i prolly won't be able to stand the mindf*** she's doing to everyone around her)
I now have a name for adorable puppy! Kang MinHo! It's so weird how a guy that tall and with that deep voice could be so cute.. even the way he pouts is so cute. lol.
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Yuyuu, The Drama Queen
September 27, 2017 at 4:47 AM
How ironic that Jung-sun's mom is now dating a younger man, after being "concerned" for her son when he was in the same situation.
Also, her casual comment on how nice that waitress at Good Soup is, didn't go unnoticed. It reminded me of how she said something along the lines of "my son won't get married before thirty". Jung-sun is now 28, so she will probably be nagging at him to get married.
I wonder if she will also be an obstacle in JS+HS's relationship this time around.
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PakalanaPikake
September 27, 2017 at 10:59 AM
Is the Pope Catholic?! Of course she will.
I'm anticipating her demanding Jung-sun go on blind dates before too long. Will she demand an heir, too? ;-)
I noticed Crazy Mom hinting about the server. Very smooth. Sheesh.
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PakalanaPikake
September 27, 2017 at 10:21 PM
Pedantic Trivia: According to DramaWiki, the waitress is actually the sommelier (wine steward).
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moochie
September 27, 2017 at 9:51 PM
Of course same rules don't apply to Crazy Mom. I think she's just looking for everyone to pander over her (which waitress was doing) so she could control and manipulate them but once they stand up to Crazy Mom she'd throw them to the dogs. I predict though that she and Snake-ah would meet and mom would likely push her to him because a.)snakes of same leather, will likely plot together b.)HA is a spoiled rich kid and I think more than manipulating people, mom likes money.
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ohhaeyoung
September 27, 2017 at 8:33 AM
that conversation between mom and her younger boyfriend was super weird...maybe it was the DF translations but I was like "uhh what a weird relationship"
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11 rentenmann
September 27, 2017 at 4:05 AM
These two broke my heart this week! But I'm still hooked and can't wait for more. Oops, off to work now. Have a good one Beanies, and thanks again for a fast recap, @lollypip!
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12 ssandsnr
September 27, 2017 at 4:05 AM
Thank you for the recap! I'm always surprised by how fast you are!
I'm so in love with this drama and it's only the second week, I don't know how I can deal with the wait for so many episodes...
I'm am very disappointed in the direction the writer took Hong-ah's character though, it really is like Doctor's and Lee Sung Kyung's character all over again. I just want a nice, wholesome friendship between a bratty girl and the lead for once, is that too much to ask for?! At least there's Bo-kyung, who I hope will be a source of genuine, female friendship for Hyun-soo.
On another note, Jung-sun writing that anonymous comment to support her is seriously the cutest thing ever!
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🍙 kimbap noona
September 27, 2017 at 5:05 AM
Downvote Hong-ah a thousand times for her passive aggression online against Hyun-soo! 👎👎👎👎👎 (Because the only way to fight anonymous passive aggression online is anonymous passive aggression, you know, fighting fire with fire)
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purebristles
September 27, 2017 at 8:43 AM
The anonymous comment support thing reminds me of the other young swoony guy who just left our screens - #School2017's Tae-Woon - and how he left encouraging notes on Eun Ho's webtoon virtual wall.
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TM
September 27, 2017 at 11:48 PM
Don't ask me why but I don't like Hong Ah's character and the actress makes me want to not like her too. I don't remember the last time I've seen such a childish and hypocrital character
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13 🍙 kimbap noona
September 27, 2017 at 4:09 AM
I love the bromantic scenes between Jun-sun and Jung-woo like all of us, but Won-joon is really the best bro any guy could ever ask for. As matter of fact, he is possibly the most considerate boyfriend any girl can hope for. (You are blind because you are self-absorbed, Hong-ah!)
Hwaiting Won-joon, for love and for your dream!
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PakalanaPikake
September 27, 2017 at 8:36 AM
Sim Hee-seop played Gil-dong's awesome hyung Gil-hyun in REBEL, too. ;-)
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⭐ Sera The Ms Temper ⭐
September 27, 2017 at 9:10 AM
I'm going to steal Won-joon from Hong-ah. I will!
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PakalanaPikake
September 27, 2017 at 10:42 AM
You might have to arm wrestle me for him. ;-)
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LollyPip
September 27, 2017 at 10:58 AM
I will take all three of you down.
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⭐ Sera The Ms Temper ⭐
September 27, 2017 at 11:06 AM
Let the best girl wins. 😉 But first let's take Hong-ah down together.
PakalanaPikake
September 27, 2017 at 11:32 AM
ROFLMAO!
*defers to Recapper-nim*
🍙 kimbap noona
September 27, 2017 at 11:32 AM
I surrender, but leave me the lunch boxes.
Ally
September 27, 2017 at 12:34 PM
I think I saw him first. As a melt-my-heart general surgeon with amazing lap chole skilz
http://www.dramabeans.com/2017/01/romantic-doctor-teacher-kim-episode-16/#comment-2638610
⭐ Sera The Ms Temper ⭐
September 27, 2017 at 11:09 AM
Let's play fair and square😎
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14 dukseonnoona
September 27, 2017 at 4:13 AM
This week’s episodes just breezed by! I’m excited to see where this will go now that we are already on the present timeline. Hyun-soo makes me want to write again. 😊
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15 Yuyuu, The Drama Queen
September 27, 2017 at 4:33 AM
Thank you for the recap @lollypip, I'm glad that you talked about Hong-ah and I absolutely agree with what you said. She's really the worst of hypocrites. I hate how sweet she is to Hyun-soo's face, but secretly does everything to prevent her happiness. I wonder how they came to be friends even.
About JS and HS, I feel that in the current timeline, their "temperatures" are more in line, they're both at the same place in their lives, having achieved their dreams, but still trying to adjust to it. And like many others, I hope this time around, it's HS who pursue JS more!
And last but not least, why does Jung-woo actually like Hyun-soo? Also, his way of approaching love is quite cold, he treats it like a math equation. And his "she's mine" gave me chills. (but damn, he's sexy!)
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Namu 🐧
September 27, 2017 at 6:14 AM
"but damn, he's sexy"
I think I always said it everytime he pops out in my screen 😅
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PakalanaPikake
September 27, 2017 at 1:15 PM
@yuyuu,
He might have originally seen her as a challenge to be overcome. He might admire her persistence in pursuing her dream. Maybe he thinks she's a kindred spirit. For now, I really don't have a handle on why he likes her.
Jung-woo had just told Hyun-soo about his family's misfortune and that he'd gotten to the point in his life when it was time to settle down and start a family of his own. At first he was touched by her apparent empathy, but was taken aback when she told him that she'd let the man she loved slip away. Hyun-soo only realized after winning the contest how empty her dream of becoming a writer was. Her tears derailed his plighting of troth. I don't think that his words even registered with her. She was in her own little world. Jung-woo quickly got over his shock and put his arm around her shoulder to comfort her. The parade of expressions crossing his face was priceless.
Although Jung-woo usually comes across as detached and very calculating in business settings, I'd caught glimpses of vulnerability -- especially when Hyun-soo ranked out on him for his “childish” eating habits, only to learn that he was missing his dead mom and eating actual "comfort food."
Jung-woo's preference for skyscrapers -- because they provide a vantage point from which he can look down on everyone else -- made him sound like a cat. A very large, lithe, sexy cat. Maybe a tiger. ;-)
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16 ModyJoji
September 27, 2017 at 5:05 AM
Jae wook got me shook
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17 하데스
September 27, 2017 at 5:19 AM
1. I’ve never been type to take pleasure just in the sound of another person’s voice like a narration by Morgan Freeman or James Earl Jones—well maybe JEJ. Yang Se-jong’s voice gets to me every time—in a good way. The first two minutes of this episode, I nearly died.
2. It wasn’t just because of YSJ’s voice, but also because I was so freaking ecstatic that he went anyway to meet up with Hyun-soo. The banter there was so good.
3. So when Hyun-soo busted out Back to Black I thought that Jung-sun spoke or understood english pretty well…facepalm...
4. In what other way are you difficult Jung-sun?
5. I don’t know if they are going to roll with the fact that Hyun-soo didn’t answer that call because they are putting so much emphasis on this was the first time she didn’t answer him. I mean, in real life if sucks when people have an expectation that you always do something because they’ve never experienced you not do it. So when you don’t, especially at an important time, it’s amplified ten fold, which sucks.
6. I did not expect to see a continuation of the past storyline with the fallout of Jung-sun’s departure. I thought that we would just come back to the present. This small segment was oh so good because it had me speculating like a mad man. Are Jung-woo and Hyun-soo going to get together!? Then Jung-woo falls for her, NO! That scene when she was crying after Jung-woo’s confession made me happy, she realized that she loves him! Will she wait!?
7. Hong-ah is all kinds of discomfort inducing. She really is a snake. I really really really hope she gets found out soon. Please drama. At least Jung-sun knows what’s up?
8. The reversal in power dynamics between Jung-woo and Hyun-soo was just too funny. Well, not reversal so much as Hyun-soo became more confident in her stances. Could also be fallout from the Jung-sun’s missed call.
9. Good Soup. To hell with having a menu item tell a story, let the freaking name of the restaurant be an ode to your past love.
10. This is the first time in a drama that I’ve remembered the mains’ names so quickly and easily.
11. When Hong-ah asked if Jung-sun liked Hyun-soo, when he said that he didn’t like her, he loved her, I was like so many people just melted just a bit right there.
12. Jung-sun and Hyun-soo’s statement about not yet truly being a chef and writer respectively gives me hope for future episodes.
13. Jung-woo, please be a bridge and not a partition.
14. And…mother just got worse with that boyfriend.
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Rainbow Unicorn
September 27, 2017 at 7:26 AM
The Good Soup name got me too.. the story really is soo good and smooth! I love the confidence these characters have about their love & the maturity they display.. not the usual wishy-washy ridiculousness!
The whole cast is amazing & YSJ is gold.. and I louuvee that the character continues to be an amazing support and friend to Hyun-soo despiter her totally ignoring his confession - crossing my fingers his character doesnt go down the annoying dark lane of second leads where Hong-ah already is.
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하데스
September 27, 2017 at 6:17 PM
So I was looking at the asianwiki page for this drama and apparently Jung-sun's online handle was "Chakhan Seupeu" which means good soup, so yeah, I missed that/not as clever as I thought. Sigh.
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🍙 kimbap noona
September 27, 2017 at 8:21 AM
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🍙 kimbap noona
September 27, 2017 at 8:24 AM
Love your comment! I also love the banter as well as the gentleness and steadfastness of Jung-sun. He is too difficult not to be loved by us viewers.
Yes on #13, please be the solid bridge as you were in Coffee Prince, Waffle Oppa! I love the complexity of your character, but dimming all the lights out will not help you to win the love of your life.
Also, can we please put waffle on the menu at Good Soup? We don't need to be filled in in on the backstory of that one.
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하데스
September 27, 2017 at 6:22 PM
WAFFLES!!! w/ Nutella? Peanut butter? Fresh fruit? Now you got me started with a craving. 🤤
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ohhaeyoung
September 27, 2017 at 8:39 AM
YSJ's voice is so soothing and manly and omg I'm over here melting just remembering how the sound of his voice has enchanted me in this drama...this is my first time ever seeing him in a drama. I'll admit when I saw the posters and teasers I thought he was just ok looking but then I watched the first week's episodes and saw him smile and heard him speak, and my heart is now his lol
This week's episodes were pretty great too and omg I'm gonna have a hard time waiting for new episodes of this drama cause I just love it so much already.
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하데스
September 27, 2017 at 6:35 PM
I was the same re: thinking YSJ was not that special--that sounds cold saying that. A lot of my recent male lead favourites have been like that though, unassuming at first but knock you over the head in no time flat. Lee Je-hoon, and Kim Jung-hyun come to mind. It's one thing to have good looks. It's quite another to have a personality or persona that oozes appeal.
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하데스
September 27, 2017 at 6:43 PM
Hmmm...Wikipedia says that YSJ had a brief stint as a model.
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Herlene
September 27, 2017 at 10:17 PM
I really like him in dramas since Duel. In some poster shooting, he shows confidence. But whenever I look at him from press conferences and interviews, he was different, he seemed very awkward and uncomfortable at times. In fact, I felt that he was stressed from the limelight perhaps.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7o4OXHerYfk
I wondered what he was quietly reciting at 2.17 when SHJ was interviewed from the video? Is he rehearsing something?
ohhaeyoung
September 28, 2017 at 8:53 AM
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ohhaeyoung
September 28, 2017 at 8:55 AM
yesss my latest oppa crush is Yeon Woo Jin who isn't that hot upon first glance...but his performances in My Shy Boss and Queen for Seven Days solidified his position as one of my top favorite korean actors that I also happen to find insanely attractive lol
i first saw Lee Je-hoon in a movie, Phantom Detective and while he was def pleasant to look at it's definitely his stellar acting that makes him so appealing. The friend that went to see the movie with me couldn't stop gushing about how pretty he was though :D
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18 russe
September 27, 2017 at 5:35 AM
I definitely see the Coffee Prince comparison! I feel like another part of what makes this show feel like a movie is the musical scoring and camera work - both are so beautiful and make each little moment feel even more heightened. I'm really loving the characterizations as well, although I'm also disappointed that HA seems to be going the traditional second female lead route...But the rest of our main quartet is flawed in a realistic and fascinating way and I need more now.
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하데스
September 27, 2017 at 5:47 AM
I see the Coffee Prince comparison as well, but more in the honesty and down-to-earthness of its characters. It also reminds me of Tomorrow With You as well in that way.
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wandergirl
September 27, 2017 at 6:33 AM
THIS! I thought I was the only one who got that Tomorrow With You vibe from this drama. Probably another reason why I love Temperature of Love so much.
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🍙 kimbap noona
September 27, 2017 at 8:35 AM
Me too! I really love the somewhat melancholic and contemplative atmosphere of Tomorrow With You. The worlds for both shows feel dreamlike but the inhabitants feel real.
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lexyk
September 28, 2017 at 7:24 AM
Yes!! It's true, I only now realize it! The feel is the same as TMY!
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19 sundaychild
September 27, 2017 at 5:36 AM
I am loving this drama so much! Very brisk storytelling. I have high hopes for this one. And kudos to the (properly enough) showcasing of food/drink -- as well as of writing/creating -- as comfort and lifeline for the leads and the supporting cast in general. And can I just say, keep the bromance between Jung-Woo and Jung-Sun, please. Let it be a full-on relationship as well, even if they will need to fight over the very talented Seo Hyun-Jin's feisty (but a marshmallow inside) Hyun-Soo.
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20 Neha AB
September 27, 2017 at 5:59 AM
Can someone please clarify to me... I have one question... Didn't good soup and Jane meet through online chat room? Was I mistaken? When good soup leaves for 5 years, couldn't Jane have contacted him again through the chats again?
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Jusyed
September 27, 2017 at 6:23 AM
Exactly what I thought'!
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wandergirl
September 27, 2017 at 6:37 AM
I'm guessing they didn't want to deal with the hassle of a long distance relationship. They didn't even have a proper relationship to begin with, they were just enjoying each other's company and were in the getting to know you stage. Hyun-soo didn't want to wait, Jung-sun respected her choice. It somewhat made sense to me that they decided to leave it at that, even if it's a heartbreaking choice.
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Rainbow Unicorn
September 27, 2017 at 7:29 AM
Well that's kdrama for you.. going abroad somehow always means that u have nooo way to keep in touch cuz apparently emails/chat rooms dont work across countries!
But if we do wanna play with logic.. we could try to reason that GoodSoup left the running chat room cuz he was no longer in korea.. but truthfully, would someone be thaat thorough in cleaning/canceling their memberships etc while leaving a country?!
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purebristles
September 27, 2017 at 6:35 PM
Good point. What I would like to see a follow-up on is why Good Soup has bad spelling (something mentioned in the first episode.)
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Goodsong
September 27, 2017 at 6:36 PM
We assume that he left the chat room.
After he left without a word, if I'm hyun soo, feeling hurt, i would not contact him even if i know his email and also if i know my friends knew his whereabout and visited him. When hyun soo realised she love him indeed, it's actually too late to fly to Paris to rekindle or start a long distance relationship. It'll be awkward and as a woman, we just leave it as a past failed relationship but emotions can come when the person thinks about it.
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K To
September 28, 2017 at 8:32 AM
OK, you answered the questions that were ringing in my head.
Although if I was as desperate as how Hyun soo made it out to be :"Where can I go to see him!" I'll call him even if I have to swallow my pride.
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21 nofrilldaffodil
September 27, 2017 at 6:24 AM
Hong-ah has a serious case of inferiority complex, in my opinion. Her friendship with Hyun-soo thrives on her needing to feel superior to her friend, whether in terms of career/financial success, or popularity among men. Now that her friend is doing well (career wise, and relationship wise too) , she feels threatened. Cue all the dramatic behaviour of an entitled b*tch.
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lexyk
September 28, 2017 at 7:28 AM
+1000 Thanks for that! I didn't know how to describe it: this is exactly what Hong-Ah' problem is!
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22 Sim
September 27, 2017 at 6:38 AM
Even though 2012 jung sun doesn't look like babby clone, am I the only one that immediately thought of sexy clone when we came back to the present?
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23 thekimchikorner
September 27, 2017 at 6:39 AM
I am so loving this drama! Way more than I expected to. I'm glad we're back in present day and now get to see how their relationship evolves. Totally agree about Hong-Ah....she's a huge hypocrite and a terrible "best friend". I don't have much hope of Hyun-Soo figuring that out anytime soon, but Jung-Sun just might.
https://www.thekimchikorner.com
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24 hannaehh
September 27, 2017 at 6:44 AM
Hong Ah yahhh, girrrrll, why are you like that? I'm so disappointed with her character development as I prefer girls friendship/womance than rivalry. Anyway, I love the boys in Good Soup kitchen. They all seem friendly. I'm in love with Yang Se-jong, but I must say, Kim Jae Wook looks smoky hot too in this drama. 😍😍😍Love the visuals in this drama.
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Rainbow Unicorn
September 27, 2017 at 7:30 AM
The whole cast is soo fab! and of course special love to YSJ!
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🍙 kimbap noona
September 27, 2017 at 11:46 AM
Not gonna lie how many times I started a drama because of its visual, but only good writing would convince me to stay til' the end. I am very hopeful here.
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25 bacon181
September 27, 2017 at 8:23 AM
this drama success on making me feel like falling in love and sad about love again after another Oh Hae Young *please don't mind my drama-queen-mood*.
I've been wrong for thinking that I will stay faithfully only for Yang Se Jong since the first episode because episode 7 successfully make me fall for Kim Jae Wook. Precisely on the confession scene. it's just beautiful and sad. and please drama gods, don't make him turn to the dark side.
It must be hard to choose if I'm the one on Hyun Joo's position *one can only dream*
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26 PakalanaPikake
September 27, 2017 at 8:26 AM
Thanks, LollyPip, for your recap and comments! ;-)
I suspect that Hyun-soo's carefully-cultivated blasé attitude has become a mindlessly contrarian habit that she excuses with the mantra “I'm fickle like that.” Such BS doesn't wash with me. It's manipulative, not cute, and only slightly less irritating than Hong-ah's predatory aegyo. Say what you mean. Mean what you say. If you don't know or are uncertain, admit it. Don't expect anyone to read your mind. It's not rocket science.
I was floored by Hyun-soo's dismissive statement to Jung-sun about her parents' love and devotion even after 30 years of marriage. I felt like thunking her on the noggin for saying love is nothing special. She not only insulted her parents, but him, too, for loving her.
As she played “Back to Black” for him, she said that when she ended relationships, there was no going back. I don't blame Jung-sun for heeding her decree that she would not wait for him. She made it abundantly clear that she was calling it quits, and not to try getting back together with her. He honored her stated wishes after she refused to answer his final phone call. Up until that point, she had always answered his calls or returned them quickly. He probably figured that she really meant what she told him. She got exactly what she said she wanted.
When Hyun-soo finally realized what had happened, why didn't she track him down through their mutual running buddy, Won-joon?
As for the alleged heartlessness of his leaving for Paris without contacting her, in my book it was trumped by her own heartlessness. She was not the only one scrambling to keep her head above water. He had his hands full with preparations to move half-way around the world to follow his dream.
It's ironic to me that Jung-sun, although chronologically younger, came across to me as more mature emotionally than Hyun-soo. Having grown up with highly dysfunctional parents, it was a wonder that he wasn't a basket case or a maladapted bastard. Maybe he spent a lot of time in therapy that will be revealed in flashback. He clearly showed signs of being a peacemaker in that cringe-inducing interchange between Hong-ah and the drunk who groped her after she bumped into him.
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growingbeautifully
September 27, 2017 at 9:17 AM
I'm also thinking HS's proud declaration of fickleness is a cop out. She seems to speak and sometimes to act without really thinking it through, and then puts it down to fickleness when she realises she may have made a mistake.
I too was shocked that she called love petty, even after witnessing her parents. Had she not been one who benefitted from that love herself, afterall. But it's interesting that in her 'good' family, she has a sister so hostile towards her. I wonder what's the story behind that.
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PakalanaPikake
September 27, 2017 at 10:37 AM
Maybe her sister is sick and tired of Hyun-soo's "fickleness"? Not to mention her mooching.
Kid sis may be pissed off that Hyun-soo has chased after her dream for years and years and still has nothing to show for it. Maybe she herself didn't really want to become a teacher, or has gone the civil servant route because it offers more economic stability than jobs in the private sector.
If I didn't know better, I'd think that kid sis and Hong-ah are long-lost sisters, or that kid sis is Hong-ah Lite. Maybe the stork delivered her to the wrong family. ;-)
Whatever the reason, she's a piece of work.
Maybe we'll get some flashbacks of Hyun-soo's childhood that shed some light on her sister and parents. Could it all just be a lovey-dovey act?
*scratching my head*
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kw02
September 27, 2017 at 11:41 AM
I am guessing HS' parents are a loving couple but not very good at parenting, particularly in disciplining and showing love for their children in an equal light. I could imagine sibling rivalry must have been bad when HS and her sister were young.
And in reply to the original comment #26, growing up from a dysfunctional family can actually make people stronger, if it does not kill them in the first place ^^" Just as HS says, others do not make her happy, she chooses to see things in a way that results in happiness. I believe JS chooses to live life his own way and not be dragged down by his unhappy parents.
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PakalanaPikake
September 27, 2017 at 1:55 PM
Ah, sibling rivalry. How could I have missed it. ;-)
I like your idea that Hyun-soo's folks might be loving but incompetent parents. They might only appear to be the opposite of Jung-sun's folks, who are overtly bad parents.
Very good point re: overcoming family of origin issues and becoming a stronger, better person as a result.
"Just as HS says, others do not make her happy, she chooses to see things in a way that results in happiness."
It sounds fine and dandy in theory... but it's also a great set-up for self-deception. We already know Hyun-soo is a poor judge of character. Her tendency to put her foot in her mouth makes me leery of her claim.
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isa: I'm not a serial killer I'm just really passionate about things
September 27, 2017 at 4:50 PM
Oh, now that's an interesting theory. Hyun Soo is turned off by love because while her parents love each other--they were crap parents. Other than the fighting in the streets there seemed to be a bit sibling rivalry when the mom took up for the bitchy sister and the dad took up for Hyun Soo. Maybe they've always been that way inadvertently pitting the two against each other. The parents only like/understand the sibling most like them or most like their spouse (who they are crazy in love with) and the other is difficult and weird.
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lexyk
September 28, 2017 at 7:42 AM
I kinda understand Hyun-Soo's take on her parents' love. I have a friend whose parents are like that. Even after 20-30 years of marriage, they are still very in love and very affectionate towards each other, even in the presence of her friends (she is usually not happy when that happens). My friend on the other hand is actually completely turned off by affection and she seems to be looking around for someone to romance her exactly like her dad does to her Mom. She is very hard to please in romantic relationships and I think her defense mechanism is just generally to be turned off by "love" (flight). She has 3 siblings and I think because their parents were so into each other they didn't really have time to spend with their kids and to reinforce their bonds. So she is not very close to her siblings and to her family in general. I'm thinking it could be Hyun soo's case too. Maybe growing up with too much of something makes you want something on the complete opposite... My hypothesis.
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TM
September 28, 2017 at 2:51 AM
About her being fickle, I completely get your point but some people like this actually exist. I know people who take a long time to choose what to eat at a restaurant: they choose a dish then switch to another but then choose the original one or another and so on. And all that could happen in less than 15 minutes.
I completely agree with you about how Jung Sun is more mature than Hyun Soo or maybe he is as mature as her I'm not a 100% sure yet. And of course the reason is that he had a difficult childhood while Hyun Soo didn't.
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27 Dermie
September 27, 2017 at 8:28 AM
Its official I have a big second lead syndrome already.
Not that I don't like d lead guy, he is so cute jst that Kim jae work is so manly and mature.
It's actually my first time making a comment
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Ally
September 28, 2017 at 2:12 PM
Welcome! This is a great drama to make an entrance.
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28 doubt_no_more
September 27, 2017 at 8:30 AM
This drama...really hits me on all level of emotions, because I have personal experience with leaving someone behind just like Jung-sun. The difference between drama and real life is, in drama the leads will meet again however long they are separated and mend the broken relationship, but in real life no such thing will happen to you, but regret and guilt.
For this drama, I am still having a hard time reading Jung Woo. Will he falls into typical second lead guy (the possesive type) or will he fall into the cupid type. I hope for latter because I am tired with love triangle plot when it is clear none of the second leads have the chance.
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29 growingbeautifully
September 27, 2017 at 8:39 AM
Thanks LollyPip. I'm still loving the show.
I was thinking about how Hyun Soo is conscious about her age and wants to be adult and responsible, and yet how at the same time she's seems immature.
Although she has the amazing example of her own parents' love of over 30 years, she totally misses the forest for the trees. She only sees from the outside that romantic love does not seem to be anything special (I felt the word, 'petty' was down-grading love too much), and thinks of it as a waste of time. She is strangely unaware that a relationship does not have to detract her from her plans, or that it is in such a relationship that she can have the fulfillment of joy and contentment, or that in a relationship her joy could be augmented.
Instead she has to find out the hard way that saving herself for her youth and achievements, like winning the contest, (which are meant to give her that joy and contentment), feel hollow and fall flat because she had avoided/rejected love. So ironic.
She's loveable and flawed and I seem to see in her a mix of childish independence - refusing to pick up the call, insisting on carrying all the books herself at one time - which borders on foolishness. Although the dialogue puts the growing up as on the part of JS, HS could do with lots of it herself. 😉
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growingbeautifully
September 27, 2017 at 8:56 AM
Another ironic situation ... I love this writer!!!
I was so amused by Jung Woo's love confession scene. What an epic response to someone who's proposing. I actually thought it was a pretty swoony proposal. Jung Woo was making a clear statement that he wanted to spend his life with HS, only to find that he'd triggered in her, regret that she had rejected someone else. His changing expressions as he listened to her were so great. In the end he had to smile. What a guy!
But poor guy! What a situation to be in when he was making himself vulnerable and hoping to win himself a lifetime partner.
I thought it was wonderfully generous of him to put aside his own feelings (shock, humiliation?) and to comfort her instead of letting his ego take over and being angry. I was iffy about him before, but I really liked him this episode. Plus, he's so good to look at!!! 😍
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growingbeautifully
September 27, 2017 at 9:09 AM
Overall, I find JS's attitude towards love, his truthful, direct way of speaking instead of playing games, and asking for clear answers or the meaning behind words/behaviour, so much more mature and responsible than HS's.
My other favourite character is Won Joon, the supportive friend and one who dared to pursue a dream of being a chef when he was a doctor. His focus was not on himself but on the other, he took Hong Ah's bad temper in stride and gave advice that always made sense.
By comparison, so many other characters appear childish, deceitful and manipulative. But that's the fun ... watching how they change, if they change and how the OTP get by despite them all. 😋 😆
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30 po
September 27, 2017 at 8:51 AM
He doesn't know she loved him. That's why he was surprised when she talked about getting hurt and regret. He tried to call her but she didn't respond which he took as a sign to move on. Even before during one of the dinners she told him to not think of a no-strings-attached kiss as love and on the goodbye run too she said she has no time for petty love and how she always ended relationships when she wanted. So he believed she had completely ended it with him. That's why he was confused as to why she ran away from him and did he become a bad memory for her.
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Herlene
September 27, 2017 at 9:54 AM
But she had unintentionally blurted out about having regrets about it and being hurt by him leaving. This should gives hints to him regarding how she feels about him...despite what she had said before him leaving...
After all, she is always fickle like that, saying things without meaning them....
I have confidence about him realising this soon.
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Herlene
September 27, 2017 at 10:08 AM
And I really appreciate the character Jung-Sun. He is logical and analytical, he wears his heart on his sleeve but he is not imposing his feelings on others. Even when it comes to his feelings, he state whatever it is as interpreted, loud and clear.
Case in point, when Hyun-Soo said about having regret and hurt. That confused him and he ask for the reason straight away. And in the scene during the train-kiss, he made it clear that he doesn't know whether this is feeling of love and made his intention clear.
Although throughout the drama Hyun-Soo was described as blunt and plain spoken, it wasn't the case when it comes to matter of her feelings. On the contrary, Jung-Sun seemed like that quiet kind of guy who does all the internal analysis in his mind, but when he made up his mind, he speaks candidly and directly....Like how he confess to Hyun-Soo when they first met and in instances when dealing with difficult colleagues.
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TM
September 28, 2017 at 3:04 AM
Was Hyun Soo described as blunt and plain spoken? I think she's like that in her job or with anything that holds no or very little value in her life (she did refuse to work for the second lead and she did criticize the drama writer). I think Jung Sun is the blunt one, especially regarding his feelings. I don't remember ever seeing a similar main male lead before
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31 ohhaeyoung
September 27, 2017 at 9:39 AM
I was wondering how they were gonna weave subway into a drama featuring a chef. And we had subway PPL twice in these episodes :D
haha anyway I know it's been said that this drama feels like real life in a lot of moments and it really does...second female lead looks like real ppl I know and omg I just love this cast and the way the story is unfolding
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32 nami1116
September 27, 2017 at 9:41 AM
Wow, it's been a long time since I last fell in love with a drama...I love everything about it and Yang Se Jong is so dreamy and a talented actor to boot *_*
I started watching this mainly for him since I was so impressed with his performance in Duel and oh boy, do I not regret it. I was craving for a sweet, soothing romance for the fall period and it sure hasn't disappointed me for the moment *please keep being good drama* ...my only complaint is the choice of music in the restaurant. Who thought it was a good idea to put Hélène Rolles as background music? As a French, I have a hard time focusing on the scenes because of the silliness of the lyrics...I was hoping it would stop after the time jump but to my dismay they keep feeding us with that crap (even had a thought of flying to Korea just to throw that rubbish in the Han's river lol) . Hélène Rolles, in my country, is considered as a has-been 90's sitcom singer/actress and was only popular with the teens /End of rant.
All in all, I really like this drama, its atmosphere, characters who feel so real and relatable (except for Hong Ah, she's started to get on my nerves last episode, Mommie Dearest and Writer Park) and the hardest thing to do now is waiting for next week episodes haha
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TM
September 28, 2017 at 3:11 AM
OMG I was so bothered by that song too! I remember listening to it in the 90s when I was really young. How did they find out about this song anyway? That's what I've been wondering about.
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nami1116
September 28, 2017 at 12:34 PM
haha I know, I did wonder too and then I made some researches and found that Hélène Rolles is enjoying a good popularity in Asia (mostly in China)... I'm embarrassed to say that I own her first album (I was still young and naive) and tried to sell it but to no avail lol
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TM
September 29, 2017 at 4:34 AM
... I bought her single too so don't be embarassed. I'm surprised she's popular in China. Did she release any new albums ever since the 90s?
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PakalanaPikake
September 28, 2017 at 1:00 PM
Re: Hélène Rolles
I'd appreciate it if anyone could tell me the title of the song. If it's the one I think it is, I liked the melody and wished I could hear the whole song. A while ago I came across a nice Richard Clayderman piece used as background music. I'd never heard of him before. Only later did I read negative comments. Tough noogies. I like it anyway. ;-)
Since I don't understand French, schlocky lyrics won't bother me. On the other hand, the piece must have been selected for a good reason, even if only for irony. Perhaps there's just a single line hidden in the cheesiness that perfectly expresses the sentiment in the scene. ;-)
Thanks for any assistance in tracking it down. ;-)
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nami1116
September 28, 2017 at 1:23 PM
Those are the songs used in the drama for the moment : 'Amour Secret' (convo between Jung Sun/mother/Daniel) , 'Je m'appelle Hélène' (Hong Ah and Hyun Soo) and "Ce train qui s'en va' (first convo between Jung Sun and Hong Ah)
Songs by other artists : 'Aquarelle et Jeunes Filles' - Emmanuelle Mottaz/ 'L'aigle Noir'- Barbara and 'Sous Quelle Etoile Suis-je né?'- Marie Myriam.
Hope it helps :)
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PakalanaPikake
September 29, 2017 at 5:45 AM
@nami1116,
Thanks so much! I appreciate your taking the time to look up the music and link it to the scenes. Maybe I'll be able to notice something in those passages that eluded me before. You're the best! ;-)
PakalanaPikake
September 28, 2017 at 1:12 PM
I've been wondering about Korean music directors myself. (I used to be a disk jockey, and my ears still prick up at interesting and unusual music.) I've been really impressed with the background music in many shows. SOUL MATE and COFFEE PRINCE had internationally eclectic background music.
I've been watching LINGERIE GIRLS' GENERATION. Greek progressive rock, a German disco Eurovision Song Contest entry, maybe one French pop number, vintage American pop dating from the 1950s to 1979, a TV theme song -- and that's not counting the Korean music that I can't look up.
Maybe this music director speaks French, or studied in France.
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TM
September 29, 2017 at 4:41 AM
I don't think the director speaks fluent french because there were mistakes in the email Jung Sun received from the French chef: in the email they used both "tu" (casual) and "vous" (polite) which doesn't make sense from a french point of you (you stick with "vous" when you talk to someone you don't know and you certainly don't alternate between "vous" and "tu" in the same email).
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PakalanaPikake
September 29, 2017 at 12:04 PM
I think the music director is a different person from the PD.
That's interesting about the grammatical issue in the email. Maybe they sandbagged a staff member who studied French ages ago in high school to write it. ;-)
I recall seeing something similar in another drama a year or two ago. For a business letter supposedly from the USA, it was oddly unprofessional.
As the saying goes, "The devil is in the details." ;-)
TM
September 30, 2017 at 11:31 PM
The devil is in the details indeed! I guess they asked a staff member with very rusty french. Or they used google translation.
33 stellaness
September 27, 2017 at 9:42 AM
This show is so great. Its a kdrama but feels different. Every episode feels like a refreshing breeze compared to all the other dramas so the writing, directing, and acting are in a happy harmony. Oh my goodness do I love Seo Hyunjin in this. She brings the same realness to the character that she did for Oh Hae Young. Yang Sejong is so sweet too. They have the kind of love that I dream about.
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34 PakalanaPikake
September 27, 2017 at 10:14 AM
The symbolism of peony in THE KING LOVES was a recurring theme in that drama. The language of flowers also made an appearance in REBEL. I wasn't expecting to see it in TEMPERATURE OF LOVE, but I think it's kind of neat.
Globe amaranth (bozo in Japanese) signifies “captivating and unchanging love,” according to the subtitles I read. It is used as a lei flower in Hawaii, where it is known by its Japanese name. Bozo looks very much like red clover, but retains its bright magenta color instead of turning brown when it dries out. It is a sturdy everlasting. I don't recall it having a fragrance, unlike red clover, which is a lovely nectar flower for bees, with a sweet, delicate scent.
I can sort of see why Crazy Mom likes the literal symbolism, if by captivating she means "taking hostage." That's what she's been doing to her son and ex-husband. I wouldn't bet the ranch on "unchanging love" -- in her case, it's more like "unchanging hatred."
On another level, I think bozo is very apropos for Jung-sun. He was captivated by Hyun-soo, and I think we'll find out that he still loves her despite her rejection. He's a gardener as well. I can also see globe amaranth being an apropos blossom for Hyun-soo now that she's finally realized what Jung-sun means to her.
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35 Ally
September 27, 2017 at 11:17 AM
I could not help myself from watching these episodes again. Usually, I'm annoyed with flashbacks, but they are used so well here, and it helps that the flashbacks are sweet and doesn't consist of the same arrow being shot in the same lovely actress in ad nauseum. Amy Winehouse's "Back to Black" was used in a genius way here. (And if I didn't love this show before, I do now just because they included her in it!) Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, but while the song was playing, she was thinking about the swoon-worthy moments in their relationship, from the first skin -ship to their first, soft, very sweet, weak-at-the-knees, kiss. Then the two shadow silhouettes appeared with his going forward and hers stopping. She is breaking up with him--at least drawing that line in the sand, and putting the breaks on a relationship that she cannot commit to. That's the essence of that song, except Amy is lamenting at a man that has left her and she is "back to black"-- the loneliness, depression, and tragic sadness that she feels in that state. The shadows were also an apropos imagery of this, with his walking forward towards the future, and hers staying stagnant where she is. Great foreshadowing of the future where he goes away and she stays there. Until she is ready to receive his love, she will never mature, never feel that love is anything but petty--which she is right now herself, only caring about her work, winning a contest, being selfish.
Which is what she realizes when she actually wins, that the shine is gone when there is no one to share it with! Finding someone who loves you for who you are is no easy feat, and she had this, and it slipped away. Seo Hyun Jin was SO GOOD in crying over her complete foolishness--nevermind another very attractive and rich man was spilling out his heart to her at the time. Other than that, this is real. This has happened, numerous times, in countless lives around the world.
And to the comments about not being able to communicate with each other while he was gone--she was probably too ashamed to reach out to him and he was certain that she didn't want anything else to do with him with that line drawn at their last meeting (and not answering his good-bye call to boot) probably didn't think it appropriate to contact her. This is real too. There are guys that I had close friendships with, that could have amounted to more, but after we moved away from each other, neither of us ever made contact again. It was much later (like at a 15 year reunion) that I found out how they felt back then. AND they were CUTE too. What could have been. Thankfully, kdramas give us a way to see what can be, if life circles back and you get a second chance. I really like this the most, because I can see me in Hyun-Soo, completely clueless about love--until it hits you with a two by four (and in her case, keeps hitting her with the same charming smiles, over and over and over-- with which you will...
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Ally
September 27, 2017 at 11:19 AM
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Ally
September 27, 2017 at 12:07 PM
...never hear a peep of complaining from me!)
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Herlene
September 27, 2017 at 12:55 PM
Yes I really like that shadow metaphor, very well done despite being a sad scene...
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하데스
September 27, 2017 at 3:27 PM
I had to go back to that scene with Back to Black playing to get what you were talking about. I didn't notice it at first. I like that you caught that and made the connection.
While I was reading you comment, I only just realized that just as Jung-sun wanted to share his good news with her and still went the extra mile to meet up, she couldn't do that with her news. I can't believe I only just made that connection or may not aware that I made it before if I subconsciously did.
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36 sueberry
September 27, 2017 at 11:53 AM
Because in the past, I've been so quick to put characters into neat little binary boxes of good/bad, I've decided to keep an open mind about Hong-ah. Her character will (hopefully) be multi-faceted enough to understand, so I don't think I hate her just yet. On a side note, I'm in love with this show, and it makes Mondays a little less gross!!!!
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TM
September 28, 2017 at 3:23 AM
Wow you're really patient. I wanted to do that at first but everything she does is just so bad that I lost all faith in her
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sueberry
September 28, 2017 at 7:04 PM
I definitely get what you mean, but I trust the story and the writer enough to create characters that are not one-dimensionally "evil" or "good" but are complex in a way that'll make me understand them, even if they are the villains of the story. And even if Hong-ah appears horrible now, I bet she'll undergo some character development, so we'll end up gaining a better picture of her in hindsight. So yes, I won't lose faith just yet
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TM
September 29, 2017 at 4:32 AM
As long as it's not a 180° change in the last episode, I'll be happy with any character improvement
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37 Serendipity
September 27, 2017 at 12:06 PM
This drama had a very promising opening, fresh and different but now is going a bit downhill due to the two-dimensional characters of Hong-Ah and Jung Sun's problematic Mom...
Doctor turned sous chef is too good for Hong Ah.
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38 fab
September 27, 2017 at 12:28 PM
"You liked her?" "No" "I loved her" YESS *throws hands in the air* *dies of heart failure*
This has to be the best burn and simultaneously the most heart-stopping little line in history. He's indeed Jung SWOOON. Good soup is love, so hang in there love birds!
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하데스
September 27, 2017 at 1:43 PM
Sometimes there is a matter of fact-esque quality to how he says what he says. So when you combine that quality with that line, it was so unexpected that it was that much better after hearing it.
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fab
September 27, 2017 at 2:17 PM
Case in point he said in between coffee sips. His delivery combined with the soft and slightly glassy look in his eyes and wary smile all speak of melancholy beyond those few words.
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Ally
September 27, 2017 at 3:02 PM
Now, we see why he got the first lead role. A smoothie delivery, dripping with sadness.
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Ally
September 27, 2017 at 3:04 PM
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fab
September 27, 2017 at 3:28 PM
That's right. It isn't just his full lips, soft floppy hair, and fine physique...
Ally
September 27, 2017 at 4:06 PM
Well, that doesn’t hurt either. 😜
39 ladykrueger
September 27, 2017 at 12:32 PM
It's not good. I looooove Jung-sun, but I've also come to love Jung-woo, he is such a fun character. What to do?
This drama is officially my new crack. It's so awesome, I hope it stays that way.
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Herlene
September 27, 2017 at 1:03 PM
Jung-woo came across as a bit too possessive in declaring his love for Hyun-Soo in my opinion. His confession sounds more like marriage proposal! I just hope that he will be respectful of Hyun-Soo's decision and wish when it comes to dating because it takes two to tango. I hope he wont turned into yet another scheming second lead (like Hong Ah) that cause problem for the OTP when he find out Jung-Sun is the man Hyun-Soo talked about.
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fab
September 27, 2017 at 1:52 PM
I know right, telling her his sad biographical story and him wanting to start a family with her is just *tsktsktsk*. Looking back, Hyung Soo's reaction sobbing over another man is just...hilariously appropriate. He may have been "observing" her but he hasn't caught on anything about who she really is.
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Yuyuu, The Drama Queen
September 27, 2017 at 2:00 PM
I also didn't find his background story moving at all, but rather manipulative. I felt like he was expecting some sympathy from her. Why not just confess AND tell your sad story a bit later?
I hope I can get a good grasp of Jung-woo in the coming episodes, but at the very least I don't want him to turn to the dark side if he's intended to be ambiguous.
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namedx
September 27, 2017 at 2:11 PM
Aww I actually found that to be really endearing. It's clear that he rarely opens up to people emotionally, so the fact that he trusted his feelings enough to want to disclose his painful past to Hyung-soo shows that he's at least earnest. And the way he laughed at the situation once Hyung-soo admitted to already being in love with another man, whilst heartbreaking, showed him to be a great sport and potentially a supportive friend. Whether he'll stay like that is yet to be seen. I'm aware that he has quite a competitive streak, so it'll be interesting whether he'll use his position to sabotage the growing feelings between HS and JS. Hong-ah is already determined to go down that path it seems..but I'm crossing my fingers for HS to not cross that line!
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fab
September 27, 2017 at 2:32 PM
Oh I don't perceive him as a baddie or anything yet. As of now he comes off insincere basically the complete opposite of Jung Sun which is fine; it could stem from his tragic childhood. As far as both second leads goes, the writer has neglected to insert some subtlety and depth in them.
K To
September 28, 2017 at 8:42 AM
I burst out laughing despite the melodramatic music. Couldn't help myself
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40 Yuu-chan
September 27, 2017 at 1:31 PM
OMG can we talk about how hot Kim Jae Wook is???? His acting's so smooth and swoon-worthy!! Can't understand why hasn't he been given a lead role yet! This is a crime!!!!!
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namedx
September 27, 2017 at 2:13 PM
It's criminal! I agree!
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41 FL
September 27, 2017 at 1:45 PM
Jung Woo is just so dreamy damn why do I always fall for the second lead T_T I really want Jung Woo and Hyun Soo to get together but it's not going to happen is it
Also I hope Jung Woo and Jung Sun stay friends instead of a stupid storyline where two guys fight because of a girl
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42 nami1116
September 27, 2017 at 2:23 PM
May I add that On Jung Sun might be the most interesting, fleshed out character that writer Ha Myung Hee has ever written. Most of the time, she tends to write super boring, bland male leads while creating amazing second leads (Hyungsik>>>>>>>>>Sung Joon in HS)...or is it Yang Se Jong's magic at work? <3 Must be the first time I'm rooting for one of her male leads and I watched all her works.
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hellocam
September 28, 2017 at 3:18 AM
Almost forgot this writer wrote High Society! I agree, I like her leads in this drama. I watched High Society so I chose not to Doctors.
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hellocam
September 28, 2017 at 3:20 AM
*chose not to watch Doctors
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43 Sara
September 27, 2017 at 3:11 PM
Thank you Llollypip!! Im so happy you are recapping this!!!
I actually think Jung sun did not do anything wrong by leaving the way he did. She was clear when she broke up with him and he did try calling her one last time.
As for not leaving a message, why would he? All he knows is that she doesnt want anything to do with him and if Hyun Soo wanted to get in touch, she did know his friend..
On a side note, please writer dont resort to such predictable second leads. There is so much potential for the characters so far..
Back to waiting a whole week for the next episode :)
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44 isa: I'm not a serial killer I'm just really passionate about things
September 27, 2017 at 4:23 PM
How is it that I keep showing up for this party late? I don't think that I blame either Jung-Sun or Hyun-Soo for how they reacted to the nobreakup of their nonrelationship.
We had already been shown by the way he left his old restaurant that when he feels wronged--he leaves. He seems like he makes snap judgments like that. When he first met Hyun-Soo he immediately asked her before he ever knew her name. He knew he was in love when he ran to see her after his bad morning. I don't think when/if she admits to having stronger feelings for him than she realized that he's going to make her wait long at all or put her through the ringer. If he still has feelings for her (and obvi yes!) I think he's going to be more than willing to pick up where they left off. When he left--and the way he left--it seems like it was the first time that we've seen him go back for something. He seems like (unlike Hyun Soo) when he says he's done, thats it. He actually is done. But he tried her twice and she didn't respond and he turned around and was done.
Hyun Soo--I wonder what happened to her?! Why would she say her parents relationship isn't special? What we know about her right now (or 5 years ago) is that work and not love is her priority. I'm wondering if she had a bad breakup or was cheated on or something and that was a catalyst to leaving her job at a company. I wonder if one of her parents actually did cheat on the other (that lady accusing them of cheating when they were canoodling up against the wall) and thats why she's disillusioned with love and she doesn't think her parents relationship is that special even though to most people 30 years together (in this day and age?!) seems pretty ding dong special. I hope that there's more to Hong-Ah than bitchy undercover frenemy. I agree with everyone who says that she seems to feel entitled to everything and everyone. She seemed like she liked Hyun Soo A LOT MORE when Hyun Soo was getting fired and kicked out of her (bitchy) sisters house and things were going along just great for Hong-Ah. She seems to really like the adage misery loves company. I am excited for the doctor who followed his dream and became a chef. He's adorable.
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하데스
September 28, 2017 at 3:59 AM
You make some really good points. I didn't think about Hyun-soo's past relationships or the possibility that one of her parents might have actually cheated on the other--although for the latter I think that the reaction of being called cheaters would have elicited a more visceral response than what we got. I would really love to know more about Hyun-soo's previous job. I can't remember if we got a reason for why she left. And with Hong-ah, she really seems to like Hyun-soo when she is not doing so well and Hong-ah is the one better off or with more possibilities. The way she assumed that Hyun-soo did win was messed up.
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하데스
September 28, 2017 at 4:01 AM
Oh, and former doctor turned chef guy is awesome. Good to see that Jung-sun has a good friend in his corner. Hope he has little to do with Hong-ah in the future.
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45 pickledplumtree
September 27, 2017 at 7:25 PM
Since Hong Ah has turned out to be a fake friend who is rather self-involved and shallow, in my mind it would make more sense for character to have pursued Choi Won Joon. He has the doctor credentials, is successful and established, has the money, is still an awesome cook, and is pretty darn handsome...some might say even more handsome than Oh Jung Sun. Of course that wouldn't do much for the plot device they're aiming for at all. Perhaps her character's motive is that OJS never gave her the time of day, so she's fixated on him. I dunno...
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TM
September 28, 2017 at 3:33 AM
She seems to believe that every men on earth are interested in her. In an episode she even said that she thought Jung Sun didn't pursue her because he's from a poor background (and not because he's just not interested). Anyway to her it doesn't make sense for a man not to like her
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fab
September 28, 2017 at 9:56 AM
She is the worst kind of character. The one who thinks her friend is inferior to her because she's pretty and rich and younger. Jung Sun being so openly in love with Hyung Soo will only grow her narcissism ('either be with me or with no one'). The prospects of her meeting his mother makes me shudder but it's also pretty fascinating; they are so much alike.
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46 turtleshell
September 27, 2017 at 9:04 PM
Wow, it's so rare nowadays to find a male lead character (in dramas and reality lol) who shows so much understanding and respect towards a girl's decisions and still be so cool about it afterwards. OMG, I just wanna say that I have fallen in love with On Jung Sun.
I actually feel like his departure wasn't harsh. I felt that Hyun Soo made it very clear about how she felt so his departure didn't come off harsh to me because that was technically their goodbye . I mean, she knew he was going to leave eventually too. But, I do have to say that I think his timing was a bit off because she was in a very vulnerable situation and could only focus on herself. In that scene, I got the feeling that she didn't realize or was fully aware of what he was trying to get at even though he mentioned the internship AND asked for her to wait because she was feeling upset and was too into her own situation to the point where she wasn't really paying attention to what he was actually trying to convey.
I'm so excited to see what's going to happen next. I love the plot line of past lovers reuniting. XD
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47 sweetsour
September 27, 2017 at 9:44 PM
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48 Rainbow Unicorn
September 27, 2017 at 9:56 PM
Question: So Hyun-soo wrote Man who eats Steak and it was produced as a drama since GoodSoup saw it in France.. then why is UnrulyDetectives considered her debut and she a new writer?
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PakalanaPikake
September 27, 2017 at 10:14 PM
Maybe MAN WHO EATS RARE STEAK was a one-episode drama special?
While on the subject: I loved how Hong-ah while in Paris lied through her teeth that she helped Hyun-soo come up with the title, and Jung-sun promptly called her on it. The look on her face when she realized she was busted was priceless. ;-)
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하데스
September 28, 2017 at 4:02 AM
I loved that as well. That whole scene was great.
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49 PakalanaPikake
September 27, 2017 at 10:09 PM
It took me a while to figure out that Jung-sun was actually filming a scene in a drama, not a cooking show. Since Jung-woo's company, ON Entertainment, is producing it, now I understand how a real chef is being used instead of an actor playing a chef in an action film.
What I don't understand: Why is Jung-woo putting up with so much guff from PD Min Yi-bok? He's the one paying the bills. Is it because Min is the only PD who will work with newbie writers (so he can walk all over them and mangle their scripts the same way Jung-woo pushes around his employees)?
I've got a bad feeling about PD Min's collusion with Writer Park.
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하데스
September 28, 2017 at 4:04 AM
I kept thinking it was a cooking show as well...😲
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50 tsinita
September 28, 2017 at 8:10 AM
for lack of a better word, I am LOVING the TEMPERATURE of this drama.
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