Circle: Episode 8
by Paroma
The villains may be motivated as much by a misguided desire to help people as they are for personal gain, but in either case, Jung-yeon is determined not to let herself be used for their purposes. One brother helps her come to terms with her identity in the present, while the other fights against the bigger evil in the future, both driven to fight despite impossible odds.
EPISODE 8 RECAP
It’s 2008, and Professor Park walks into Kim Kyu-chul’s house, which was rented to him by his colleague, Professor Han. While the men chat, an unobtrusive camera hidden in a tiny star on the ceiling scans Professor Park and tags him as someone without authorization. Professor Park hands a small box full of blue worms to Kim Kyu-chul, asking why he wanted to see them. Kim Kyu-chul reassures him that it’s only curiosity, which seems to satisfy his younger hoobae.
Kim Kyu-chul tells him that he wants to make a comeback after the trouble he caused for the sake of his children. Professor Park asks after the twins, then wonders what his senior could be working on. Kim Kyu-chul promises to tell him everything and invites him for a meal.
Part 1: Beta Project
Woo-jin tries to convince a distraught Professor Han that he knows nothing about his father’s life as a neuroscientist. He begs to have his brother returned to him and promises to disappear without causing any legal problems for Professor Han.
His professor just laughs, grabbing Woo-jin’s face like he wants to crush it. “Do I look sane to you?” he asks, adding that the moment he started his illegal experiments, he crossed a line that he had to keep crossing over and over again. “I killed people,” he tells Woo-jin, looking momentarily pained as he does so.
But the pained expression turns into one of desperation as Professor Han insists that Woo-jin must find his father’s research. “If you can’t find it, I’ll never stop. This tiresome experiment will continue on and more people will have to die,” Professor Han grits out. For extra motivation, he threatens Bum-gyun’s life too, should Woo-jin not find what he wants.
When Woo-jin emerges out of the deserted hospital, the dirty cop hands him his backpack and warns him against reporting what happened, since he’s not the only policeman involved in this. Woo-jin takes a call from Jung-yeon in front of the cop and says that he found nothing on Professor Han’s laptop. Dirty Cop smirks and tells him to quickly finish the assignment his professor gave him.
Woo-jin gets back to his apartment and rummages through the few items of his dad that he has with him. He comes across a business card from Kim Kyu-chul’s life as a researcher. He decides to try and log into his dad’s email account, but gets stuck at the security question when he opts to change the password.
Thinking back, he remembers how his father had taught him how to ride a bicycle, and in answer to the “most prized possession” security question, he types in “the twins.”
When it’s accepted, Woo-jin gets angry at the father who deceived them and brought them to their current state, though he almost fondly unfurls the business card he crumpled up after his short burst and wipes away his tears.
Chief Hong lets the facts of the case percolate in his mind as he sketches in his notebook. It’s then that he gets a visit from his superior, who wants him to take his hands off the serial suicide case. Furious, Chief Hong borrows a lollipop from Dirty Cop and stomps out of the station.
Woo-jin scrolls through pages of emails until he comes to one with a mysterious subject and an attachment. The file is compressed and needs a password to be unzipped. After trying every word and name he can think of, Woo-jin tries calling his student, Dong-soo.
Dong-soo is unreachable by phone, but Woo-jin tracks him down to a gaming den, where the kid is playing hooky from school. When Woo-jin asks if he’s a hacker, Dong-soo becomes concerned that his tutor has stalker-ish tendencies toward a girl he’s dating, but he agrees to help him in exchange for a favor.
Dong-soo sets up a program to run through all possible password combinations on Woo-jin’s laptop, then sits back as Woo-jin stews in his impatience. He tries to explain to Dong-soo how important it is for him to see what’s inside the file, and realizing his tutor’s urgency, Dong-soo decides to use a different method.
While Dong-soo works on his laptop, Woo-jin visits his grandmother’s hospice room. While she’s out on her walk, he goes through her things, but unfortunately, she comes back early and mistakes him for a thief.
Woo-jin desperately grabs his grandmother and asks her if his father left any research with her, but she’s too overwrought to listen. In her struggle to pull away, she scratches his face, leaving Woo-jin shaken and hurt.
Defeated, Woo-jin leaves the hospice, then gets a call from Dong-soo that he’s cracked the password. He sends the file over to Woo-jin’s phone, but when Woo-jin opens it, there are only a few images of Byul with the twins in front of their old house. Woo-jin is initially disappointed, but then he wonders about the significance of the house.
We find Bum-gyun is lying on the floor of his father’s office, already in the grips of delirium as he murmurs, “Woo-jin-ah.”
Professor Park thinks of his confrontation with Professor Han and reassures himself that he had no idea that illegal experiments were going on. Patting himself on the head for being different from Professor Han, he goes up to his office to find Chief Hong waiting.
As soon as Chief Hong brings the dissected blue worms out of his pocket, Professor Park’s good intentions fly out the window, and he disavows knowing anything about them.
Professor Park learns from Hong that someone related to the case is now missing and that worms had come out of two of the dead students. This knowledge drives Professor Park to seek out Lee Sunbae and grill him about Professor Han’s experiments.
Lee Sunbae spills the beans, admitting that Professor Han is attempting to gather a person’s memories and turn them into video files. Professor Park scoffs at the idea, since there is no way to store human memory, let alone convert those memories into footage.
Jung-yeon goes into Professor Han’s office and finds her camera sitting on the table. As she goes through its footage, Professor Han opens the door, and Jung-yeon quickly starts the recorder and places the camera so it faces Han.
Hurrying out from behind his cubicle, she says that she was worried about him, but Professor Han just bluntly asks her how much she knows. Jung-yeon plays dumb for a moment, before suddenly breaking character and spitting out Byul’s name. She asks if he’s really involved in Bum-gyun’s disappearance and the student deaths.
Growing agitated, Professor Han says, “This was all because of you.” He calls her “Byul” as he says that everything he’s done was in an attempt to get her to regain her memories, and that he means to eventually use the blue worms to retrieve Byul’s old memories.
Calling the deaths of the kids a “side effect,” Professor Han stresses that if Jung-yeon could get the memories back that Kim Kyu-chul locked away, all of humanity could live in a braver, grander world.
Jung-yeon listens in distress as Professor Han talks about Byul’s ability to turn her own memories into video files and choose which memories she wanted deleted. Even though the professor doesn’t know where Byul is from, he has confirmed that she shares the same DNA as other humans and therefore hopes to replicate her ability to eradicate emotional suffering from the world.
He talks about how Byul never got angry, even as tears run down Jung-yeon’s face. Professor Han grabs her, still calling her “Byul,” and tells her that she’s humanity’s savior. He desperately asks her to stay still while Woo-jin looks for his dad’s research. Upon seeing the resistance on her face, he ominously adds, “If you want Woo-jin and Bum-gyun to be safe, that is.” Jung-yeon backs away from him in horror.
Min-young speaks to someone on the phone who tells her that she has a foreign object in her brain. She tells him that she’s seen the CT scan and knows the risk, but she seems relatively unconcerned about it at the moment, since has to find someone right now.
Not being able to get in touch with Woo-jin, she visits the neuroscience building and quietly enters Professor Han’s office. Before she can look through his desk, Professor Park walks in, and Min-young ducks behind a desk to hide.
Professor Park finds the camera Jung-yeon had left recording on Professor Han’s desk and replays the argument. Meanwhile, Professor Han has locked Jung-yeon up in what looks like a hospital room. She yells for Professor Han, still calling him “Dad,” then curls up in a ball when no one opens the door.
As Professor Park absorbs what he just saw in the video, Min-young comes out of hiding, snatches the camera, and makes a run for it. Professor Park grabs her and almost manages to take the camera back when Min-young whips out her trusty taser. She accuses him of being in on the student deaths and asks him about Bum-gyun.
Connecting the dots, he realizes that Bum-gyun might be in Kim Kyu-chul’s old house and promises to help her. Min-young immediately calls up Chief Hong and tells him about what she found out. As he hangs up, Dirty Cop asks Chief Hong what the call was about, and is stunned upon hearing that Bum-gyun has been located.
Dirty Cop immediately calls Professor Han, who gets a lackey to send someone over to the house.
Woo-jin wanders along the streets at night wondering if their old house is somehow connected to all of this. Suddenly, he gets a call from Professor Park, who without prelude tells Woo-jin that his brother is in their old house. Woo-jin looks up, and we see that he’s standing right in front of his childhood home. He runs towards it and notices an ambulance standing in front of it.
It’s the same one that carried his brother away from Eunsung Hospital. Woo-jin rushes to the front door to find two black-clad men waiting for him. He tackles them, trying to reach the door, but the two gang up on him and beat him up.
Woo-jin tries to fight back and is resilient about reaching his brother, but they beat him to the ground and kick him until he’s coughing blood. As the two men leave him lying on the front yard, he crawls up to a shovel, forces himself to stand up, and bashes one of the men on the head.
Min-young, Professor Park, and Chief Hong are on the road driving to the house, even as Woo-jin takes down both men and coughs out blood on the grass. Painfully and slowly, he enters the basement where Bum-gyun had been confined, but finds it empty.
Woo-jin’s eyes fall on the locked door of his father’s office in recollection, and he uses his fingerprint to get inside. He finds things askew and sees the bottom half of a figure lying on the ground. Very slowly, he approaches his father’s office until he confirms with his own eyes that it’s Bum-gyun lying on the ground.
Something breaks inside him then, and he rushes to cradle his brother’s limp form in his arms as he cries and calls his name, desperate for him to wake up. Woo-jin apologizes over and over again, crying madly, until Bum-gyun awakens enough to recognize his voice.
Woo-jin cries and thanks his brother for being alive, while Bum-gyun mumbles an apology of his own. Above the reunited brothers, the camera hidden in the star on the ceiling analyzes Woo-jin and decides that this individual has authorization. The computer on Kim Kyu-chul’s desk lights up, and the monitor comes alive with a string of data.
Part 2: Brave New World
Joon-hyuk sits in the Investigation Unit room playing with his Rubik’s cube. After some deliberation, he sets down the cube and walks away, and we see that the puzzle has been solved.
He speaks to Jung-yeon through a VR program and tells her that he’ll meet the CEO of Human B and stop him, regardless of whether that mysterious individual is Woo-jin or not. Jung-yeon says that she unblocked memories even when she believed Woo-jin could be the CEO, so she’s completely on board with stopping Human B no matter who it is.
Joon-hyuk visits the Human B building and asks Deputy Chief Lee to pass on a message to their CEO: If the man knows that he’s Bum-gyun, then it’s time the CEO met him and Bluebird in person.
Back in Ho-soo’s pad, he shows his new ally the signature cut behind his ear and says that he was a victim just like Ho-soo twenty years ago. “I was the first victim to lose my memories,” he adds, thinking that it’s not such a stretch that Human B would do something to his brother too.
Ho-soo is surprised to learn that Human B is responsible for Joon-hyuk’s brother’s disappearance. Joon-hyuk scoffs at the idea of Smart Earth being a crime-free city, and says that he’ll find out where Woo-jin is once he meets the CEO.
Deputy Chief Lee informs the shadowy figure behind Human B that Joon-hyuk wants to meet him in person. In response, the chairman looks at the picture of the two brothers on the old phone.
As they make their way to their office, Ho-soo advises Joon-hyuk to stop eating flour-based products for his health, and Joon-hyuk argues that eating donuts is a Hollywood-sanctioned reward for hardworking cops like himself. Affectionately calling him “Erro” again, Joon-hyuk also observes that Ho-soo’s nagging has gotten worse since his chip was disconnected before shoving his last bit of donut in Ho-soo’s mouth, ha.
When they enter the Investigation Unit room, they find Bum-gyun’s old phone sitting beside Joon-hyuk’s solved Rubik’s cube. Joon-hyuk approaches it cautiously, then picks it up and turns on the display. As soon as the image of the twins appears, he recognizes the phone as his old phone and tells Ho-soo that Woo-jin was the last person to have it.
He checks the messages, and there’s only one with a time, date, and location in it. Ho-soo warns him that it could be a trap. It’s the same warning he gets when he tells Chief Hong about the meeting and shows him the picture of Woo-jin with the painting, which he reveals was taken in the CEO of Human B’s office. He asks his old mentor to wait at the terminal with officers at the ready, and to protect Jung-yeon if something goes wrong.
On his way back, he gets a call from Minister Park, who asks him to meet in the mayor’s office. There, Minster Park hands over a USB with a list of visitors to the long ago Investment Briefing, where Woo-jin was last sighted. He tells Joon-hyuk that if the CEO of Human B had been present in that meeting, he would be in the visitors’ memory. Joon-hyuk asks if the minister wants him to hack into the memories of these people, but Minister Park simply says that it’s up to him.
Woo-jin gives the USB to Ho-soo with instructions to meet Chief Hong should anything go wrong before leaving to meet the CEO. In his mind, he hopes that his brother doesn’t turn out to be the man behind Human B.
Back in the mayor’s office, Mayor Yoon asks Minister Park if the investor’s briefing he mentioned was the one that was held in 2022. Mayor Yoon reveals that he was a reporter back then, and that he’d incidentally heard about the top secret meeting while tailing the head of a foreign company. Minister Park says that he only found out about it after entering office and takes his leave. Mayor Yoon watches him go with a thoughtful expression on his face.
Chief Hong studies the picture of Woo-jin in the CEO’s office and tells Detective Ha that something is fishy. He recognizes the painting beside Woo-jin but can’t remember where he’s seen it before.
Meanwhile, Mayor Yoon goes through files of notes from his days as a reporter, until he comes across the date of the secret investment briefing. Among the list of attendees, he finds Minster Park’s name. Mayor Yoon now recalls that though he’d not been allowed to go inside the hotel, he’d taken pictures of every person who arrived for the meet, and he’d photographed Minister Park going into the building. He immediately calls security and has Minister Park brought back to his office.
He confronts the minister about hiding the truth of his presence from Joon-hyuk. Though Minister Park denies any involvement with the briefing, he doesn’t seem terribly surprised when Mayor Yoon pulls up the pictures he’d taken of him on the day of the briefing. Mayor Yoon asks him what his connection is to Human B, and Minister Park smiles strangely as he wonders how to explain it to him.
As Joon-hyuk heads over to meet the CEO, Chief Hong jumps up from his seat with recognition written all over his face. At the same time, Ho-soo hands the USB to Jung-yeon.
Minister Park rounds on the mayor and asks him why he thinks Joon-hyuk was kidnapped and almost forcibly chipped. Mayor Yoon guesses that it was to keep him quiet, but the minister says that it was to block his memories. He smiles evilly at Yoon and points out that although you can’t erase the memories of someone without a chip, it’s utterly easy to do it to anyone who already has a chip in him.
“Mayor Yoon, do you know which emotion is the most dangerous?” Minister Park asks with a smile. “Curiosity.” As Mayor Yoon’s eyes widen in recognition of the threat, Park introduces himself as the CEO of Human B. The mayor yells that this is illegal, but Park simply repeats that he’s the CEO — the very same person who created the chip in Mayor Yoon’s head.
In flashback, we see that it was Minister Park’s plan all along to get closer to Joon-hyuk by playing the rescuer to his damsel. He had been in collusion with Deputy Chief Lee the entire time.
Then, Minister Park brings out his phone and gives the order to “erase it.” On the other end, Deputy Chief Lee types in a command into the system and blocks all of the mayor’s memories.
Back in the office, Mayor Yoon suddenly collapses. After taking a moment to look over the mayor’s prone form, he calls in security and directs them to get help while pretending to be distraught.
Chief Hong unearths an old notebook from 2017 while Joon-hyuk reaches the meeting site. Jung-yeon goes through the content of the USB and tells Ho-soo that it’s not a list of names but of chip addresses, and that they can access their memory footage if she tracks each one.
Minister Park calls a council meeting of Smart Citizens and brings Deputy Chief Lee in to explain what happened to Mayor Yoon. Lee lies that Bluebird hacked into the mayor’s memory and blocked all of it so that he will never function normally again. Understandably, everyone present becomes instantly aware of how vulnerable they are, and Minister Park takes advantage of this and declares that Smart Earth is under attack.
Citing a Smart Earth law, Minister Park takes over the governance of the city in his capacity as the Minister of Science and Economy. As he begins a manhunt for Bluebird, the only one to look concerned is Mayor Yoon’s personal assistant.
On Ordinary Earth, Chief Hong flips open his old notebook to a page of scribbles. It’s a sketch he made of the painting that now hangs in the CEO’s office. Back in 2017, he’d first seen it above Professor Park’s desk and sketched it while waiting for him. Putting the pieces together, Chief Hong realizes that Minister Park must be the CEO of Human B.
As Jung-yeon traces the address in the USB, she realizes that something is wrong. The USB was just a way for the Human B supercomputer to hack into her system and detect her location. Even as her base is being located, Jung-yeon immediately disconnects everything and runs out with Ho-soo.
Anticipating her escape, Minister Park directs Deputy Chief Lee to block all communication networks in that area. Now Ho-soo and Jung-yeon are cut off from Joon-hyuk, with no way to warn him of the trap.
Deputy Chief Lee reports to Minister Park that they lost Bluebird, but Minister Park has one more card up his sleeve. He reaches the place where Joon-hyuk is waiting, huffing and out of breath, and tells him that Bluebird has been compromised. Joon-hyuk says that there is a place he is supposed meet Jung-yeon in this kind of a situation, and they head over together.
Their car stops in the middle of a field, and Park follows Joon-hyuk out with a minion in tow. That’s when Joon-hyuk casually turns around and asks what’s really going on. Pulling out his phone, he shows Minister Park the picture of Woo-jin and the painting. We see that before the communication blackout, Chief Hong was able to call Joon-hyuk and tell him where he’d seen that painting before.
Now, Joon-hyuk asks why Minister Park’s painting would be hanging in Human B’s CEO’s office. Minister Park tries to pretend that it’s a copy, but as soon as Joon-hyuk takes a step closer, Minister Park’s minion pulls out a gun. Joon-hyuk easily disarms the man and swipes the gun, pointing and shooting past the minister’s ear in the same motion.
As Minister Park’s ears ring, Joon-hyuk studies the man’s neck and notes that no chip lights up to combat the rush of adrenaline normal in this situation. He asks Minister Park if he’s the CEO of Human B.
Instead of answering, Minister Park asks where Jung-yeon is. Joon-hyuk asks him again, and this time, Minister Park admits that he’s the man Joon-hyuk had wanted to meet so badly. “How do you feel?” the minister asks with a smirk.
We see that day in Professor Han’s office one more time, when Minister Park first learned about Byul’s ability to store and erase memories. This time, we see how his hands trembled and his eyes lit up at the possibilities such an ability could open up.
In the present, Joon-hyuk holds a gun to CEO Park’s head and yells, “Where’s Woo-jin? Where’s my little brother?”
COMMENTS
I’m so grateful for that ending, because I was genuinely starting to believe that Joon-hyuk has some kind of damsel disorder, where he keeps blindly walking into traps and waiting to be rescued. I was also tired of our heroes in Brave New World passively responding to the actions of their nemeses. It’s time that they changed the game and brought some trouble to Human B’s doors.
I loved that Minister Park’s evil plan to catch Jung-yeon was brought down by the interference of a lowly detective who was always mocked for his habit of constantly sketching in his notebook. It was a nicely done bit of foreshadowing that was subtle enough for us to ignore, yet more satisfying for the surprise.
I find that I’m happy that Woo-jin isn’t the CEO of Human B, since Minister Park’s character works nicely as the head of an evil corporation. Given how slimy his character was in the first few episodes, I was experiencing whiplash at how friendly and honest he had suddenly become. Good to know that it was all an act.
While Woo-jin, his dad, and Professor Han were all men who believed that erasing memories could be an effective way of taking away human suffering, Minister Park has no such moral reasons for his involvement in the project. Given that he remained chipless all these years, he clearly thought of the Stable Care System as the ultimate power tool to manipulate and control people. The ease with which he rendered Mayor Yoon witless indicates years of abusing the system that he helped set up.
Woo-jin of 2017 clearly believed that Professor Park was on his side. So, did he disappear after he learned otherwise? What is the data that his father’s system gave him access to, and why was he authorized while Bum-gyun wasn’t? Does the Jung-yeon of 2037 have Byul’s memories?
Byul’s humanity is a subtle recurring theme in this story, and I can’t wait to dig deeper into it. Even as Professor Han was yelling at Jung-yeon about Byul’s inability to feel anger, his “daughter” was responding to his revelations with fear and sadness. At this point, despite everything she has learned about herself, Jung-yeon is still a twenty-one-year-old girl who’s facing heartbreaking truths about the only family she has ever known.
With so many mysteries still unsolved and Human B looming more darkly over all our heroes, Circle continues to play with our expectations and answer every question with more questions. Now that Bum-gyun has been found in the present, I’m hoping that the Woo-jin of the future makes an appearance soon. And while we wait, I’ll start writing a petition for a Sherlock Hong spin off, ’cause that’s a show we all need in our lives.
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1 June
June 16, 2017 at 8:06 PM
This episode blows me away! :D
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2 June
June 16, 2017 at 8:08 PM
I'm actually starting to think Joon Hyuk may be Woo Jin after all!
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pjk
June 16, 2017 at 8:15 PM
me too!
i see parallels between joon hyuk and woo jin!!
like that scene between jung-yeon and joon hyuk in ep 7, where joon hyuk was shocked at what jung-yeon was saying about how woo jin could possibly be the chairman, the dialogue reminded me of a scene between jung-yeon and woo jin from 2017, when jung-yeon accepts that she is byul and cries out at woojin saying what she is supposed to do, and woojin says what is he supposed to do knowing that his brother was right and he believed jung-yeon instead. idk, the korean dialogue really reminded me of that scene immediately haha
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Ellen
June 19, 2017 at 7:36 PM
Joon hyuk solved his cubes, as we know when they were kid boem gyun could'nt solved that. And i also agree that boem gyun got his glasses since he was a kid, but joon hyuk are not wearing glasses
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Yuyuu, The Drama Queen
June 16, 2017 at 8:30 PM
The fact that Joon-hyuk only knows he's Bum Gyun through WJ's memory is still nagging at me this whole time. Where the hell does WJ's memory footage even come from?
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Dahlia
June 16, 2017 at 11:42 PM
I'm dying to know this too! How did they get Woojin's memory?
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circulate9oo
June 17, 2017 at 5:21 AM
Either he got himself inserted with the chip or he's the same as Byul. I really want to lean in towards the latter... but then the other characters should've known about it. I don't know anymore hahaha
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Dahlia
June 17, 2017 at 12:20 PM
I think it has to be the chip, because we've seen him age from child to adult whereas Byul doesn't seem to age. But if he had a chip and then had it removed, who removed it, who gave it to the detective.... So many questions and I hope Circle's got enough time left to answer them.
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LT is Irresistibly Indifferent and reminded of the slow march of death
August 26, 2017 at 8:06 PM
It makes more sense if Joon Hyuk is Woo Jin because they would have gotten the memories from his own chip. If that's the case, why are the Detective and Min Joung lying to him?
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Miranda
June 16, 2017 at 8:39 PM
The posters make me think he really is Bum Gyun - Jin Goo is the only character split in half between the two worlds, so I think he's the one actor who is the same in both.
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nanabot
June 16, 2017 at 8:51 PM
Yh, that's what makes me think JinGoo might even be the one to play WooJin in 2037 too.
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circulate9oo
June 16, 2017 at 10:18 PM
Actually in the full poster, Joonhyuk is also split into two, but the difference is that Woojin's half in 2037 is edited like a computer glitch while Joonhyuk's half in 2017 is completely normal.
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rentenmann
June 17, 2017 at 4:34 AM
Oh man, so might that signify Woo-jin 2037 as being "alive" only as a computer program with a digital projection for something even remotely concrete to see? This show has me doing all kinds of mental acrobatics. But I love it!
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cinny
June 16, 2017 at 8:44 PM
I don't think so. We've been shown a lot of sweet interactions between Joon Hyuk and Min Young. It'd be awfully weird for her to suddenly have Joon Hyuk as Woo-jin, when the person she really cares about is Bum-guyn all along.
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dee
June 16, 2017 at 8:57 PM
but we've been shown sweet interactions between WooJin and MinYoung while they were looking for BumGyeon in 2017 as well.
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cinny
June 16, 2017 at 9:12 PM
Not romantic interactions... That's just between Woo-jin and Byul
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dee
June 16, 2017 at 9:23 PM
ah, maybe it's just me who misinterpreted
I guess WooJin just being nice to every girl lol.
circulate9oo
June 16, 2017 at 10:19 PM
I agree and the same thing applies to Woojin and Byul. They had this romantic tension in 2017, and I just don't see it working for Jungyeon and Joonhyuk in 2037.
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immawish
June 16, 2017 at 9:30 PM
Yesss that has been bugging me too but that can't explain the affection minyoung has for joonhyuk...
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hellobye
June 17, 2017 at 1:28 AM
But Min Young will know if he is Woo Jin or Bum Gyun right since she said Woo Jin and Jung Yeon left Bum Gyun with her and left together. And we know Woo Jin went missing after he left Jung Yeon. Means Bum Gyun/Joon Hyuk is with Min Young?
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Ally
June 17, 2017 at 6:32 AM
Wouldn't Byul recognize him as Woo-Jin though? She just saw him 10 years ago. And what about the picture in the chairman's office of Woo-Jin? We know he's not the chairman, but he obviously has some roll to play on smart earth.
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circulate9oo
June 17, 2017 at 6:47 AM
Byul was separated from Woojin much earlier than that... She was no longer with Woojin in 2022. But yeah, even still, there's no way she wouldn't recognize Woojin's face.
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Ally
June 17, 2017 at 9:50 AM
How would anyone forget Yoo Jin-goo's face? ?
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winter
June 18, 2017 at 6:26 AM
They could if they changed the actor XD
Lord Cobol (Kdramas, like water, flow downhill)
June 18, 2017 at 12:13 AM
FWIW, Bum-gyun wore glasses both as a child and in 2017. Woo-jin & Joon-hyuk don't.
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Shay
June 19, 2017 at 11:01 PM
bruh what if he's wearing contacts
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3 Adal
June 16, 2017 at 8:12 PM
Where on earth is Woo Jin? I'm scared to find out the answer to my question. What happened to their dad? I've never felt such dread mixed with anticipation for the next episode of a drama before. I do hope that both Woo Jin and their dad are all right.
I guess we'll find out how Professor Park double crossed Professor Han in the next episode.
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nanabot
June 16, 2017 at 9:04 PM
Double-crossed being the appropriate word. I don't exactly see him becoming the Chairman as one of those "This-Dongseng-will-finish-his-hyungnims-research-in-his-honour" circumstances.
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circulate9oo
June 16, 2017 at 10:15 PM
And also Prof Park probably got all the access to files because Woojin unknowingly is the password to the computer data, and Prof Park was with Chief Hong and Minyoung when the came to rescue Bumgyun.
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Adal
June 17, 2017 at 2:18 AM
I wondered about that scene. I think the combination of Woojin and Bum Gyun together was the password to unlock their father's research. "The twins" are their father's greatest treasure. So it might be that the presence of one twin alone could not open the code. Something like having dual keys to a safe or something. I may be wrong, but that was the impression I got.
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piyangyangs
June 17, 2017 at 5:06 AM
I've been thinking the same thing!
I wonder why their father left those data with his twins though.
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Min
June 17, 2017 at 5:11 AM
I think so too, they're both the key to the lock, but without one half you don't get to open the latch. so when they're both together it works.
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meganpg1
June 17, 2017 at 6:30 AM
Wonder Twins Activate!
circulate9oo
June 17, 2017 at 6:53 AM
The way I understood the scene was that it was Woojin who was needed to access the computer. I thought both twins were needed at first too, but upon rewatching, it clearly showed that only Woojin got scanned by the device before activating.
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ShaRi
June 17, 2017 at 8:46 AM
I think the system only scanned woo jin when access was granted.
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winter
June 18, 2017 at 6:30 AM
I'm pretty sure that the Little star shaped scanner was placed there by Pyol which is why only Woo-Jin can activate/unlock it. Bum Geun and Pyol never were too Close...
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TM
June 19, 2017 at 1:04 AM
I wondered about that too. I initially thought the twin's father was the one who installed it but then because it is a star it makes more sense that it would be Byul. And if it's Byul then only Woo Jin was scanned because she seemed closer to him that Bum Gyu
4 Yuyuu, The Drama Queen
June 16, 2017 at 8:17 PM
Wow, just wow. I love it when I can trust a show to continuously outsmart me.
I was never entirely convinced that Park Dong Geon was on the good side, but I never expected him to be THE chairman. For me, he was always a character with questionable morals....but did he just "decide" to become evil, because Prof Han's idea of changing the world enticed his greedy side? He certainly seems to have lost all the guilt he felt about his creation causing deaths. Does he now feel morally justified in his actions, because the chip doesn't kill people anymore? Did he create Human B with "good" intentions of helping people or simply with the aim of gaining power? Are the two even mutually exclusive in his context?
Now the question (among several others) is: Where is Woo-jin and what the hell happened to him? Is he living as someone else with an erased memory? Is he dead? Why did he take that picture in the chairman's office?
And also now that we know Prof Han isn't the chairman, what happened to him?
The preview of the next episode seemed to hint that Jungyeon still hasn't recovered her memories in 2037 (deliberately or because she really can't?)... I'm half-hoping she doesn't let them insert a chip in her, because Human B can't be trusted, but also half-hoping they do insert it, so that I can finally satisfy my curiosity about what she is.
About the 2017 timeline:
First of all what is that star-camera thingy? Is it an automatic system or is someone behind it? And if it only gets activated by the twin's presence, does that mean their father wanted them to have access to it? Why? Did he predict that he could disappear? Is he ALIVE?
Since the twins were reunited, how where they separated again?
Also, I really feel for poor Woo-jin. That guy can't get a break, everything's just been going downhill for him.
Gosh, my speculations are more question marks than words. Maybe I should stop trying to figure things out and enjoy the rest of this show...but the mystery buff in me just can't give up. I will miss this show, I love it so much.
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nanabot
June 16, 2017 at 9:00 PM
Ikr. For me this is one of those shows where you just want to stop theorising and see what happens next but the questions still pop up in your mind.
I think the star camera thingy was activated by only WooJin's presence. I dont think BumGyuns presence had anything to do with it. That makes sense tho...seeing as WooJin was always with Byul-noona then...appa probably did that as a sort of safety-bargain measure?
I just wonder what happened after the computers came to life...did Prof. Park come in to help WooJin with BumGyun and then see it? Did prof Han find it?
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kayedrama
June 16, 2017 at 9:28 PM
I think it was the twins being together that activated the star-sensor
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alasecond
June 16, 2017 at 9:56 PM
oh they made it clear right that the house twins and dad moved into was some Mr Yoo's house and he gave it to dad for his research..
so that star camera is actually to spy on him.. and see its location.. so perfectly captures the laptop
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nanabot
June 17, 2017 at 12:20 AM
Hhmm idk...why would prof Han have been spying on him as far back as 2008? If he'd been then i think that even after the twins dad disappeared he would hv been able to hv access to a sufficient amount of info right?
And also, WooJin was granted access after being scanned. Prof. Han had no links to WooJin that far back...
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Yuyuu, The Drama Queen
June 17, 2017 at 7:06 AM
I'm dying to know who that "Mr. Yoo" is, and if he has any role in the story.
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circulate9oo
June 17, 2017 at 7:10 AM
It's Professor Han Yongwoo (Jungyeon's "dad") who lent the house to Kim Kyucheol.
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Yuyuu, The Drama Queen
June 17, 2017 at 8:56 AM
Why is he being called Mr Yoo though if his name is Han Yongwoo? Am I missing something?
circulate9oo
June 17, 2017 at 9:03 AM
@yuyuu Yongwoo Sunbaenim was actually the term Park Donggun used when he talked to Kim Kyucheol. Dramafever subs also translated it as "Senior Yong Woo".
Yuyuu, The Drama Queen
June 17, 2017 at 9:21 AM
Thanks @weaselking.
It must've been a mistake in translation from where I watched it then.
circulate9oo
June 17, 2017 at 11:03 PM
@yuyuu Oh I see... :( It's really hard to have mistranslations in a series like this because mixing up names/ words could lead us to having an entirely different understanding of the plot. Just like the part in Ep 1 with "Find your siblings," along with Minyoung being called Inyoung in her first appearance.
rentenmann
June 17, 2017 at 4:40 AM
In the 2017 segment, I think that Byul may have used one of the stars to create to security camera and computer for the passwords, etc. It could have been something she did way back when the twins were little kids. But that's just me trying to work out the details and what goes into them.
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Namu 🐧
June 17, 2017 at 8:34 AM
Yeah.. I thought that too, imo the star cctv (or whatever it is) was Byul's. And woojin's face is the access because little woojin have special connections with Byul
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LT is Irresistibly Indifferent and reminded of the slow march of death
August 26, 2017 at 8:10 PM
"He certainly seems to have lost all the guilt he felt about his creation causing deaths."
What I love about this show is that they continually show us something that could mean two things so the reveal works either way. Was he guilty about the deaths? Or was he concerned that he would be blamed for the deaths? Was he angry that illegal research was being done on teens without their consent or was he angry that HIS research was being used without his consent? This show has good characterisation of the "bad guys", which is rare.
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5 Lunabird
June 16, 2017 at 8:36 PM
This episode blew my mind again. I suspected Professor Park was bad, but now being the CEO of Human B, it seems he really turned evil. Also, with Woo Jin still un-found, I wonder where did he go? Wouldn't he want to go back to meet Byul (Jung Yeon)? Does Jung yeon still have her memories from 2017? There are so many questions floating around my head. I need the next episodes.
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nanabot
June 16, 2017 at 8:43 PM
Im guessing she still has her 2017 memories in 2037 because she clearly remember WooJin and that's when she met him. What I'm curious about is- you know when WooJin was holding BumGyul on the floor and crying and that Camera/Scan thingy granted "access"...thus revealling the data in the computer....will it somehow activate byuls memories? Will that be how byul gets her memories and then will somehow be taken advantage of?
Frm the preview it seems WooJin will be asking her for smth and she seemed irked(?)/disturbed/irritated...
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6 nanabot
June 16, 2017 at 8:37 PM
That unexpected plot twist (unless its another red-herring) had me shook though!
Does that mean Prof.Han is dead (who knows, maybe like a mad scientist he eventually had to test his stuff on himself while trusting one of his "partners" to observe him or smth along those lines lol). Fr he might be dead right?
And WooJin might honestly just be dead too right? (Or, ya know might be the detective in 2037).
Or maybe they'll just keep Yeo JinGu for the role(?)...
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June 16, 2017 at 8:44 PM
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cinny
June 16, 2017 at 8:46 PM
No Woojin can't be the detective. Joon Hyuk has had a lot of experience interacting with so many people as Bum-gyun, including hints of romantic interactions with Min Young in 2037. There's no way it would turn into an "oops, I thought you were your twin brother". Too awkward and unnecessary.
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nanabot
June 16, 2017 at 9:14 PM
Hhhmmm. Well that is definitely true, it would be pretty unnecessary...tbh the main reason im doubtful is because JoonHyuk hasnt "regained" any memories himself and is only living frm what hes been shown...he might think hes BumGyun, because thats all he knows...but then again that detective who's there in 2017 and 2037 should be able to tell diff right?
Argh but then AGAIN there are cases of kids looking like mom in childhood but looking more like dad in adult life right? So WooJin coulda just resembled BumGyul more as they grew older (and JoonHyuk was found in 2027 right? Thats when they found him without memories)
Buuttt then again on the other spectrum, Im also wondering idmf somehow YeoJinGu is gonna be WooJin in 2037...that shoulder of his in the poster crossing over to the other side (2037) arouses my suspicion.
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LT is Irresistibly Indifferent and reminded of the slow march of death
August 26, 2017 at 8:12 PM
I've heard other people say they see hints of romance between him and Min Young. I don't see it myself. He definitely trusts her and they're friends but I don't see a romance there. It's what makes me thing that he isn't Bum Gyul because she's the one person who should respond to him differently. I think she's lying to him.
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nanabot
June 16, 2017 at 8:49 PM
The "partner" being prof Han who oobviously takes the opportunity to make Things work for himself...or maybe he and WooJin cooperated to take prof Han down but then he changed after they got rid of him in some way and he just couldnt let go of his brain child (ie. The blue bugs).
And if WooJin is the 2037 detective, is BumGyul dead? Wb their dad? And really where on earth, Smart or otherwise, is Prof. Han?
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7 gadis
June 16, 2017 at 8:37 PM
Thank God, we finally know for sure who is the chairman. Eventhough that means we are now back to square one. Where is Woo-jin? Dad? Prof Han? Prof Park is such a wily man. So smart of him to make that particular clause that the minister of economic will fill in the mayor's position had something happened. Now Smart City is finally fully operating under his whim. Which means super dangerous situation ahead for our good guys.
I can't help but think that the star camera in Dad's office was Byeol's. Though I can't imagine her reason for that. It looks like a scanner to access something. Her blocked memories, maybe? Or the intricate system of her brain she stored there in case of trouble? Seems like the twins' presence in that room is the only requirement needed to unlock whatever it is in Dad's computer.
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immawish
June 16, 2017 at 9:42 PM
That could be it! It was actually Byul's and given her affection for woojin the camera ONLY recognize Woojin instead of Bumgyun or the twins.
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pipette
June 17, 2017 at 2:31 AM
It seems to me that he's been planning to take over Smart Earth for a very long time. He definitely is more villainous and far-seeing than I gave him credit for. It's not just wealth that this man wants. It's all the power.
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LT is Irresistibly Indifferent and reminded of the slow march of death
August 26, 2017 at 8:13 PM
That technology was too advanced for 2008, which was bothering me until the end when I realised it was probably Byul's.
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8 cinny
June 16, 2017 at 8:41 PM
It's not Woo Jin that the father's system gave access to per se, but the presence of both Woo-jin and Bum-gyun which authorize the system. It's "the twins" that unlock things when it comes to their father.
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Yuyuu, The Drama Queen
June 16, 2017 at 8:47 PM
That was my thought as well, that it was both their presence and not just one of them.
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circulate9oo
June 16, 2017 at 10:11 PM
That's what I initially thought of as well. But it actually showed Woojin being the only one scanned before the device permitted access. Like they really carefully edited it in a way that it avoided Bumgyun's body parts during the scanning process.
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Yuyuu, The Drama Queen
June 17, 2017 at 7:12 AM
I went back and checked it out again, and seems like it indeed only scanned WJ! I think some of the comments above are right in assuming that in this case, the star-camera thingy might be Byul's doing.
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cinny
June 18, 2017 at 9:24 PM
Actually you're probably right. There's no reason the dad would use a "star-shaped camera". Even in the beginning scene of episode 8 when a young Park visited the twins' house in 2008, I don't think the father was even aware of the camera. And the messages shown don't seem to be from his computer but just within the camera itself. Likely it's a Byul thing which is separate from the hidden data. The hidden data are in the cross USB with the grandmother.
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ShaRi
June 17, 2017 at 8:53 AM
It only scanned Woo jin :)
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Cinny
June 18, 2017 at 8:53 AM
It could have registered Bum gyun presence already so no need to rescan
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9 dee
June 16, 2017 at 9:08 PM
is Joon Hyuk already has a chip in him but inactive or what. Gosh, why should I bothered this is only drama, but yes I'm bothered.
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kayedrama
June 16, 2017 at 9:37 PM
Nope. He doesn't have a chip. Remember last ep, they tried to insert one but Min Park fake-rescued him
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dee
June 17, 2017 at 4:42 AM
but Min Park said something to Mayor Yoon. I don't know I'm just confused
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Yuyuu, The Drama Queen
June 17, 2017 at 7:20 AM
What Minister Park meant was that Human B had to go to the lengths of kidnapping Joon-hyuk to insert a chip so he could keep quiet, but since Mayor Yoon already has a chip inserted...there would be no need for drastic measure, they could simply block his memory.
Dunno if that helps...but simply put, it was just a comparison between Mayor Yoon and JH.
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s9313071e
June 17, 2017 at 8:18 AM
I wonder why Minister Park doesn't have a chip on him.
dee
June 18, 2017 at 2:27 PM
thank's!
10 kayedrama
June 16, 2017 at 9:11 PM
I already suspected Park to be on Human B's side, but for him to actually be the Chairman? I didn't think he was clever enough to be the CEO haha. I'm still not settled even though Woojin is not the CEO, bec he just might be locked up somewhere by these Human B android ala Kim Tae Hee in Yongpal.. Or yup, he might actually be Joonhyuk afterall. Oh, the possibilities!
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11 Playstore, Okay Or Not Okay
June 16, 2017 at 9:16 PM
The part in 2017 where Woo Jin was identified by the star device/computer in his father's office is really interesting. I wonder what sort of programs/information would open after that. Or what exactly that means.
On another hand, I'm glad our Ho Soo found out the right path in last two eps.
Lastly, I'm blown away by the cast's excellent acting. 2017 Bum Gyun and Woo Jin scene was heart wrenching. I got 3 elder siblings and I think I would be in hysterics as Woo Jin in similar situations. Everyone is just perfect in this drama.
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12 moonriver
June 16, 2017 at 9:17 PM
UGH, this episode was amazing! I felt relieved in both parts, in a sense that Woo-Jin finally found his hyung, and the identity of the Chairman was finally revealed. I just need to know where Woo-Jin is and how he's been all this time.
And it's interesting that Woo-Jin had access (but a part of me wants to believe that in some way, the twins needed to be together for the files to be opened), I think it's mostly about his connection with Byul. But I will wait with full anticipation!
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circulate9oo
June 16, 2017 at 10:08 PM
That's what I initially thought too, that it's the twins needing to be together for the files to be accessed. And I was totally mindblown by that. But then upon rewatching, it was really carefully shown that Woojin is the only one who got scanned and I was mindblown all over again because that means it's got to Byul who did it.
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SuShin
June 17, 2017 at 4:03 AM
I only saw the episode once and when I saw it I initially thought it was so sweet their dad treasured the twins so much he used them as his password. So when I read your comment about Woo-Jin being the only one to have access to the computer made my heart sink for Beom-Kyoon. But if that's star scanner divice was Byul's doing, that's the whole another story and it does make a lot of sense considering her bond with the little Woo-Jin and how Beom-Kyoon was explicitly annoyed of her presence. She would definitely grant only Woo-Jin access to her memory.
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13 immawish
June 16, 2017 at 9:38 PM
GAAAAAH I had thoughts of Park being the chairman but I totally decide to forget because Minister Park was too nice ajshsgshhs. And also, I kept suspecting that Joonhyuk might be Woojin but I'm not having another Woojin but Yeo Jingoo, okno. I mean given Jungyeon's connection from the start in 2007 then 2017, jungyeon could've immediately recognize, no?
Anyway, I don't think I can go through the said event of woojin finding his brother not being able to remember him, because remember the pain in his face when grandma didn't recognize him I'm not ready.
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circulate9oo
June 16, 2017 at 10:06 PM
IKR? I'm so happy about the reunion but thinking about what Jungyeon said in 2037 on how much Bumgyun not remembering broke Woojin... and I'm just like, please let Woojin be happy. He deserves to be happy.
And yes, I also can't have any other Woojin except Yeo Jingoo.
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rentenmann
June 17, 2017 at 4:56 AM
Seriously, who else would they find to have that beautiful voice for 2037 Woo-jin? I can't think of anyone.
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circulate9oo
June 17, 2017 at 5:28 AM
Lee Sunkyun! :D Even his age is not too far-off. But still, my heart calls out for YJG for 2037.
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14 Ek Ladhki Thi
June 16, 2017 at 9:45 PM
Damn you Han Sang-jin, I almost trusted you.
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15 circulate9oo
June 16, 2017 at 10:03 PM
Circle never fails to blow me away! First things first: finally my dearest twin brothers have been reunited. It was really touching and sad at the same time. What have these two brothers done to deserve this kind of evil fate? Woojin was just absolutely desperate about finding his brother so I'm so happy he finally made it. Woojin thanking his brother for being alive was so emotional and heartfelt.
I think it was Byul who made Woojin the password to all the data in the computer. I got goosebumps when that star thingy scanned Woojin and it's actually him that allowed the access to the computer. It makes me wonder what their connection really is. I get the sense that there's something more between Byul and Woojin than what we have seen so far.
I never had any concrete guesses on who the chairman would be but I definitely didn't expect Park Donggun as the one. They put Woojin as the giant red herring once again (just like the way they used him for Joonhyuk's identity) so that we got doubtful about Woojin being the chairman so our minds immediately went to either the twins' dad or Prof Han. And yet the show is still steps ahead of us. Slow clap to Circle. So when Chief Hong and the rest came to rescue Bumgyun, Prof Park who was with them, would see the computer being accessed and that is what he used to start Human B.
What if Joonhyuk is actually neither one of the twins?
The PD also said during their presscon this week that the plot twists we have seen so far are nothing compared to the upcoming ones. That really scares and excites me at the same time.
PS: Professor Han could really do well in joining Show Me the Money. He'd make a good rapper. Maybe he actually became one in 2037.
PPS: I really want to give Woojin a hug. He kept on crying then wiping his tears and then trying to soldier on just to find his brother.
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circulate9oo
June 16, 2017 at 10:25 PM
And according to Jungyeon in 2037, the heartbreak for Woojin is still not over even after he found his brother.
And Yeo Jingoo deserves all the awards he can get for this show, but I won't be surprised if he won't since Korea only likes to honor popular shows most of the time.
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Dahlia
June 16, 2017 at 11:50 PM
Woojin needs a hug, some hot chocolate, and a happy ending with his brother (and Byul, Minyoung, and the good detective).
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circulate9oo
June 17, 2017 at 12:21 AM
Yes, please. T_T He just really loves his brother so much, he's even willing to give up on everything and go disappear just to be with Bumgyun. I'll sue if Woojin doesn't get his happy ending with everyone he loves and cares for.
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rentenmann
June 17, 2017 at 5:01 AM
Slow clap to Circle, indeed. Do we really only have two more episodes of this awesome drama? I want more, so I hope I'm wrong!
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circulate9oo
June 17, 2017 at 5:04 AM
There are only 4 more left. T_T
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rentenmann
June 17, 2017 at 5:11 AM
Noooooooooo!!!!
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16 jillian
June 16, 2017 at 11:43 PM
This show just keeps you guessing what is next. I really like the reveal of the Chairman's identity. He wasnt among the two men I was suspecting though.
That ending though.. just a couple more days for the next episode.
Let me just throw a wild guess.. Joon Hyuk is really Woo Jin. And Ho Soo is Bum Gyun. ?☺?
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17 giocare 🌻💛
June 16, 2017 at 11:48 PM
THEYVE FINALLY FOUND EACH OTHER ??Now Im scared the bad guys will wake up and separate them again
Is it possible that the Mayor’s Assistant is actually Bum Gyun?
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Katy
June 17, 2017 at 12:07 AM
Oh they will. Didn't you see in the preview Woo Jin crying and saying "so I can save my brother!" They're definitely going to be separated, especially since bad cop knows and has informed the professor.
Gosh the preview was making me want to cry, I'm mentally preparing myself for an ultra depressing episode Monday!
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Yuyuu, The Drama Queen
June 17, 2017 at 7:35 AM
OMG OMG! So someone else noticed the Mayor's assistant!
I thought I was crazy for assuming things...But I thought he might actually be Woo-jin. It's just...the way the camera lingers on him a little too long, the look he gave Minister Park after Mayor Yoon "collapsed" as if he couldn't trust Park Dong Geon entirely. Also the way he suspiciously eyed that USB when he discovered Bluebird's location.
This show's got me assuming crazy things! I can't believe myself, lol.
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18 YM
June 16, 2017 at 11:49 PM
I like that the characters are all actually pretty smart. Joonhyuk is instinctive, jungyeon is a genius hacker, minister park is also very good with his schemes. They seldom make very stupid mistakes and that makes them harder to predict.
I actually think it's not very possible that woojin is still alive, but I'm still keeping my hopes up!
I want him to reunite with Jungyeon :(
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rentenmann
June 17, 2017 at 5:04 AM
I feel like Woo-jin 2037 will be a hologram AI program only, or something to that effect. Like his consciousness is the only thing that survived, and no physical manifestation is still around. It's pretty far out there, and I hope my theory is wrong, just because I want the twins to be happy for at least a few minutes on our screens!
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Namu 🐧
June 17, 2017 at 8:53 AM
When the show revealed that JH is BG, I always think maybe in 2037 WJ already dead, and became something like AI/hologram like you said. That thought scare me so much, because it so tragic for WJ, BG, and Byul ?
I hope I am wrong
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giocare 🌻💛
June 17, 2017 at 7:50 AM
Wow I hadn't even considered the possibility of him being dead. Thinking about that now breaks my heart
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s9313071e
June 17, 2017 at 8:24 AM
About JY being a genius hacker, I like how she isn't that genius of a hacker in the 2017 timeline. She is always using the primitive methods of spy and capture using cameras etc to "hack" into people's stuff. I love how amused WJ is when he realizes what her hacking meant. Haha.
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circulate9oo
June 17, 2017 at 11:06 PM
I totally loved that part. She sounded so proud of herself and tbh, it really was witty of her to "hack" into his password that way. :D
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TM
June 19, 2017 at 1:16 AM
Please don't say that. I don't want Woo Jin to be dead :(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(
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19 Evelia
June 17, 2017 at 12:47 AM
I really enjoy each episode, I don't even know how it will all end. When I think I know we're the story will go, the next episodes brings more surprises and more questions.
Thanks for the recap.
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20 Lincoln Gu
June 17, 2017 at 1:16 AM
The greatest mystery is that there's no subway, not in the present and the future as well.
How can anyone build any meaningful interactions without subway?
Put a subway sandwich between Jung Yeon and Joon Hyuk. They will be having chemistry right there and than.
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rentenmann
June 17, 2017 at 5:07 AM
Have we seen anyone eating much? Doughnuts and making their own bread, but I can't think of any other times, haha.
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sirena
June 17, 2017 at 9:54 AM
Give it time and we'll get a bonding-over-a-subway-sandwhich moment ;)
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21 Sweetsammy
June 17, 2017 at 1:46 AM
I am just glad that woojin is not the evil ceo of human b... but now i hope that he is alive and not dead...amnesiac or something else..... can we please have a happy closed ending wer the bros finally meet and go out for a game or movie or something??
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rentenmann
June 17, 2017 at 5:09 AM
If I could, I'd upvote this 1000 times! I hope they get a few minutes of being happy AND together before this awesome drama comes to a close. I don't want this to end, it's too good!
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22 pipette
June 17, 2017 at 2:27 AM
I thought the Chairman would be either Woo Jin or his Dad or even Professor Han. I didn't even consider Professor Park! Good job show for throwing me off!
I enjoyed this episode one because I finally think we are settling into the main mystery. Jung Yeon is Byul, Professor Park is the Chairman. Now the focus is solely on finding Woo Jin and also finding out what happened to the twin' dad.
I'm so glad Woo Jin found Bum Gyun but omg, was it sad to see Woo Jin getting beaten like a rag doll before he found Bum Gyun. The star thing was really cool. I guess the twin's dad trusted absolutely no one which is a good call considering the fact that he's surrounded by shady dudes all around. Also, I guess the important research is all in this old house, on that system. Here's to hoping Professor Han does not get his grubby hands on it.
I felt equally bad for Jung Yeon. Someone who she considered a father figure has basically been using her for his own ends and purposes. That's got to be soul-crushing for sure. If anybody gets to crush Professor Han, it should be her.
As for the 2037 timeline, I'm finally glad Joon Hyuk seems prepared. His cowboy cop tendencies are a bit annoying for me. He kind of made up for it by coolly firing it at the Chairman. That was a badass.
And I love that Jung Yeon didn't fall into their trap either. She scrammed as soon as she figured it out it was a tracker.
Cannot wait for the next ep!
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circulate9oo
June 17, 2017 at 5:11 AM
Yes, seeing Woojin getting beaten to a pulp like that was so horrible, but he just didn't care and just desperately wanted to get to his brother. Thankfully it wasn't in vain as they finally found one another... but I'm still worried for them cos there's definitely more bad things to come.
I'm actually thinking it's Byul who set up that password since it only allowed access for Woojin.
I agree... poor Jungyeon... the moment she woke up from that coma, she believed Prof Han to be her father only to realize she's been fooled the entire time. I felt so sorry for her when she couldn't even get herself to go inside the house during the previous episode.
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23 Livii
June 17, 2017 at 2:59 AM
The ending of the first part was so hard to watch. Poor woo Jin. He really needs some hugs and kisses.
Also that minister was overacting way too hard to not be shady. What happened to professor Han then, was he killed in 2017 itself? Feeling a bit antsy about Byul. I need her alien past and memories and her connection to woojin to be explained already.
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SuShin
June 17, 2017 at 3:49 AM
Yeah, I feel the same. Wio-Jin was so lonely. It's like he has only himself to depend on cause the others (Cheif Hong, Jung-Yeon & Min-Young) are as clueless as he is.
Joon-Hyuk has advantages of being older, supposedly wiser, and more resoureful allies (same squad Woo-Jin was with but but again older, wiser and know better than their 2017 selves).
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24 SuShin
June 17, 2017 at 3:57 AM
I initially thought the mayor's assistant (young man with glasses) will play an important role in revealing the truth because the camera keeps focusing on him during the minister meeting scene. But till the end of the episode he didnt even speak a word so I'm not sure if I was over analyzing things again. But then @festerfaster mention he looked unhappy, I started to think again that he might be coming back later and expose Minister Park.
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25 Melona
June 17, 2017 at 4:25 AM
Circle really makes me distrust everyone. We've all been theorising from episode 1 and yet I think none of us actually expected Professor Park to be the Chairman. Show won this round. The shadow of doubts actually extended to even the main characters, that during the scene of Jung-yeon and Ho-soo together, as JY realised she's been tricked and her location was being exposed, I was so on edge and worried that Ho-soo would suddenly betray her right then and there. Because if he did, JY would be so screwed. To my utmost relief, HS wasn't being two-faced like Professor Park. I'm sorry I doubted you Ho-soo...
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26 circulate9oo
June 17, 2017 at 5:19 AM
BTW, Yeo Jingoo said in an interview that he himself thought he would be the chairman of Human B to the point that he kept practicing for it. ?
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kiara
June 17, 2017 at 6:49 AM
His character is the one that I'm mostly invested in and it doesn't feel the same that he is still missing in 2037.
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circulate9oo
June 17, 2017 at 6:59 AM
Same here. YJG himself actually wants to appear in 2037 as much as we do and he seems to have contemplated about it a lot. He said if he would appear, could he actually appear in Part 2, and if he could, under what circumstances could he appear in it? LOL
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ShaRi
June 17, 2017 at 9:26 AM
Jin goo is so darn cute! :D where was this interview? was it on youtube? By the way i'm a huge fan of jin goo!
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circulate9oo
June 17, 2017 at 11:09 PM
Yay~ me too! High five! It was during Circle's presscon last week, I just saw it on a news article on naver but someone also translated bits from the presscon on twitter. https://twitter.com/sel3nette/status/875524093382082560
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PakalanaPikake
June 18, 2017 at 12:20 PM
@weaselking,
Thanks for that link to the press conference and Astrid's translations. It gives nice glimpses behind the scenes. ;-)
@kiara,
I'm with you. I miss YJG as Woo-jin in 2037, too.
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27 growingbeautifully
June 17, 2017 at 5:21 AM
Thanks festerfaster!
What made me happy this episode - my hoped for bromance between Joon Hyuk and Ho Soo is happening, and Ho Soo without a chip can actually have gut feelings! LOL. I'm so glad that Ho Soo decided to embrace the pain of remembering, to be truly himself and to trust Joon Hyuk. What scares me is that Human B can easily reconnect Ho Soo's chip again and erase his memories!!!
I thought it was interesting that in 20 years, on Smart Earth, a reporter became a mayor and a researcher became a minister. However on normal earth, Dong Soo is still a hacker, Min Young took up medicine and is still a doc, and Chief Hong is still a policeman.
I did have the feeling that Joon Hyuk had finally lost trust in Park, and I'm glad to see that Park failed the most important test, ie, that he avoided having the chip in his own head. As the Minister even and more so as the Chairman of Human B, that speaks volumes about his hypocrisy. That he could have been minister without the chip is also a sign of much rottenness at the core of Smart Earth.
If we take the time the research was in full swing until the future (2008 - 2037) that's 29 years ... I found it ironic that after so long, they were still stuck on getting Jung Yeon's memories and were still baiting one brother or the other to get her. Since they already have the care chip and memory storage, it's a new mystery now, why they still want Jung Yeon.
The irony is that, even without Byul, Park had created Human B, so if they had only left both Woo Jin and Bum Gyun alone, or let them be together, Park would not have been found out so soon. Because the brothers were kept forcibly apart, and so have gathered a team of friends for their cause, Park has probably engineered his own defeat.
I have the same questions as others here have raised. My overriding question now is, ... what more do they want to get out of Byul?
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ShaRi
June 17, 2017 at 9:29 AM
i am wondering too? why do they need byul? Just to stop her from making people regain their memories again? or is there any other motive as well?
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growingbeautifully
June 17, 2017 at 9:55 AM
That's the thing. I believe the subs said that they want her for her memories, and not because they want to stop Bluebird from continuing to unblock other people's memories. Got me puzzled.
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Lord Cobol (Kdramas, like water, flow downhill)
June 18, 2017 at 12:29 AM
She's the alien, her memories would be be only complete source of alien tech.
BTW, I kinda think that the non-suicides early on were because the alien tech was designed to work on aliens and needed lots of tweaking to work on humans.
It might have been the alien's way to prevent all their secrets from falling into earthling hands if their agent/explorer was caught? And she might even have nuked her own memories when things got messy (?)
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28 skyler
June 17, 2017 at 5:49 AM
oh thank God for our woojin isn't the CEO.... I was so scared of what would have happen if it turned out that he grew up to be a criminal.....I always knew that something seemed fishy about mister park and I was right he turned out to be the CEO .....on the other hand I am wondering what could've happened to woojin ? is he dead or is he Ho-soo since it's not like ho -soo remembers everything... mmmh my curiosity is eating me up
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29 blnmom
June 17, 2017 at 6:26 AM
I'm still wondering how Byul got turned from an emotionless robot to a girl with emotions. Did they somehow install emotions, or did she already have them but was suppressing them in the 2007 era?
Also the Rubik's cube brings back memories... I never solved one except by taking it apart and putting it back together. Maybe I'll get one and try again.
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circulate9oo
June 17, 2017 at 6:56 AM
Professor Han got nowhere with the research by 2017, so I'd say Byul actually has emotions that she can control.
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blnmom
June 17, 2017 at 10:24 AM
Oh good point!
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growingbeautifully
June 17, 2017 at 8:51 AM
My kids found a solution to the Rubiks cube, I believe on Youtube. There's a formula of sorts to follow that works every time. I'm hopeless at it myself but your comment brought this to mind.
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blnmom
June 17, 2017 at 10:23 AM
Hmm, have to look this up!
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30 Charmaine Goh
June 17, 2017 at 7:44 AM
hmm staring at the poster again...i'm kind of curious who ho soo actually is. I don't think they featured him so prominently for no reason yet so far he hasn't been doing much. as in he did drive the story but I believe there's more to him? meanwhile just really glad to have good Ho-soo back i was starting to get really done with his character...
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31 Peridot
June 17, 2017 at 9:32 AM
Sherlock Hong, lol! Thanks for the recap.
I will just pose a question for now. Does everyone here believe the revelation that Minister Park was the chairman all along? I mean, we know that he's been a slimy individual, but are you all convinced that we received our answer to the chairman mystery? I can't help but think that this might be another mislead. But maybe I just wrong.
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sirena
June 17, 2017 at 9:56 AM
I'm still not 100% convinced that Minister Park is the Chairman.
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32 Arhazivory
June 17, 2017 at 9:42 AM
From my understanding, the presence of both twins us what allowed for authorisation.
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ShaRi
June 17, 2017 at 9:54 AM
if u watch closely you can see it scanning woo jin and then kind of beeps and only he is highlighted as it shows on the screen that the access is granted.
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33 ShaRi
June 17, 2017 at 9:47 AM
This was a really interesting episode, but as usual left a lot of questions.. So Woo jin found bum gyeom, but later they got separated again somehow? and the star camera thing only recognized woo jin? why was that what was the technology behind it? was such technology available by 2007? Woo jins dad was a neuroscientist (they are more into bio right idk their knowledge on such technologies), so was it his creation or byuls? and he (the dad) never noticed it if Byul planted that camera there? and where is woo jin now if the Minister is the real CEO? i need answers!! the show always gave answers so i am hopeful for the next few episodes. And there is only four episodes left which is upsetting!. and i must say i totally felt like crying when woo jin literary wailed holding bum gyeom. That scene was so emotional. Jin goo is so good at everything but i wonder where he go that ability to cry like that lol. It's so realistic like he is physically in pain.. and i can name some few other memorable emotional scenes he did. In moon embracing the sun when yeon woo was taken way from the palace, in Hwayi when he saw his mother murdered, in Jackpot when his mother (choi suk bin) passed away and now this. My all time favorite is the scene in Hwayi i guess though. i was just stunned as his emotions on the face went from disbelief, pain and then to pure rage.. that was amazing!
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blnmom
June 17, 2017 at 10:22 AM
The first time I saw Yeo Jingoo was in Sad Movie, where he was a little kid, and he had this ability then. You should watch if you haven't seen it, but have a box or two of kleenex ready.
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ShaRi
June 17, 2017 at 10:27 AM
oh yes i have watched that too! Forgot to mention! Thank you! <3
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circulate9oo
June 17, 2017 at 11:13 PM
That's also where I first saw him, little did I know I'd become such a huge fan of his acting years later.
I'd also like to add Giant. When Jingoo was getting beaten in this episode, I was reminded of that same moment in Giant. And that scene where he lost his sister. He's already a very powerful actor at such a young age.
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34 ShaRi
June 17, 2017 at 10:00 AM
Some one in another place had a comment on a theory where Byul being a creation (an AI) of future Woo jin himself and he kind of sent her through time.. which was why he and Byul and he was so connected from the start. and that only he was granted permission to the system which was probably created by Byul.. idk if it's what happened. This show sure makes our brain work and kind of expand our imagining skills i guess! And someone here mentioned jun hyuk not being one of the twins! that crossed my mind too. hehe but i still do believe he is one of the twins but lets see!
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ShaRi
June 17, 2017 at 10:25 AM
he and Byul*
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ShaRi
June 17, 2017 at 12:17 PM
and in in the beginning of every episode there is this part where Woo jin is burning something. It seems like a document. i wonder if it means something.
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35 Aigoo!YuanFen
June 17, 2017 at 12:35 PM
Then Woo-Jin is basically pieces of messed up data in the future.
Perhaps I'm getting too far ahead of myself but I question how a "human" presences can activate a computer...
Can Woo-Jin possibly be NOT human ?Another commenter did question If the twins could have been experiments but what If Woo-Jin is a clone.Bum-Gyun & Woo-Jin have alot of similairities which was normal as we thought they were twins but what If It's more then that.Woo-Jin could be a replica of Bum-Gyun & no one would have known since clones could still feel emotions.That would also explain how Woo-Jin could activate the computer as he was the missing data piece all along...Wait can clones age ???
Is this plausible or am I missing smth??
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circulate9oo
June 17, 2017 at 11:16 PM
I really like where this theory is going :D The thing though is they have never explored the theme of clones in the drama, so I doubt they would suddenly just pull out the cloning card out of nowhere. But yeah, because I'd really love for Jingoo to be in 2037, I'm so into the idea of him not being exactly human.