Ruler–Master of the Mask: Episodes 9-10
by lovepark
Hitting rock bottom and experiencing the extent of his own powerlessness, Prince Sun must accept his current state and learn how to become a true master. Though the journey will be long and hard, Sun is willing to endure it all in order to bring down his enemies, who are ruining the country and causing misery for his people. As long as Sun still has someone to protect and save, he won’t give up, no matter how difficult the task.
EPISODE 9 RECAP
As Dae-mok pierces the king through his stomach, the king tells the prince to escape with his dying breath. Seeing his father fall to the ground, Prince Sun goes into a frenzied craze as he attacks the intruders around him to reach the king, but Chung-woon leaps in to drag Sun away from danger.
Commander Lee quickly follows after them, and once outside, the commander tells Prince Sun that he’s now the king. He orders his son to protect the prince before going to fight the intruders alone. Chung-woon grabs Sun, and gritting his teeth, he leaves his father behind while Sun cries out desperately.
Greatly outnumbered, Commander Lee manages to hold back Dae-mok’s men for a few seconds to let the prince escape, but he’s soon overpowered and brought to his knees. Dae-mok orders his men to forgo the fallen commander and chase the prince, so in his final attempt to bring down Dae-mok, Commander Lee leaps up in the air to attack. Suddenly, Gon flies in, cutting him first, and Commander Lee falls to the ground, defeated.
With the few precious seconds Commander Lee afforded them, Prince Sun and Chung-woon race into the woods, but Dae-mok’s men quickly follow behind them. Chung-woon offers to act as a diversion and promises meet up with the prince later. As the two split, Chung-woon successfully tricks their pursuers into following him, but Gon and his men aren’t as easily fooled.
Back at the palace, Dae-mok approaches the forgotten fake prince and swipes off the mask. He stares at Lee Sun, who’s quivering on the floor, and holds onto the mask, now dripping with the king’s blood.
Gon and his group find the prince, but just as one of his men raises his sword to strike him, Gon intervenes, killing his own man. Despite Gon’s efforts, Prince Sun gets pushed off the ledge during the fight and lands with a thud below.
Hwa-goon hears the prince’s scream as he falls and rushes over to the unconscious prince. She urges Gon to hand over the drug that temporarily stops a person’s heartbeat, but Gon warns her about the drug’s potency, citing the potential danger of the prince never waking up. However, Hwa-goon believes this is the only option to save the prince from her grandfather, and she forces the drug down Sun’s throat.
Soon, Dae-mok and his men arrive, and Hwa-goon quickly hides with Gon. Trailing alongside Dae-mok, Lee Sun recognizes the prince lying on the ground and runs to him. When one of Dae-mok’s men announces the prince’s death, Lee Sun shouts at the prince to wake up, but once he realizes that the prince isn’t breathing, he slumps to the ground in defeat.
Dae-mok hands the metal mask to Lee Sun and tells him to place his current fears into it. Lee Sun refuses to take the mask since he isn’t the prince, but Dae-mok corrects him: He’s making Lee Sun his puppet king. Dae-mok threatens Lee Sun to become his puppet if he wants to live—reminding him that the moment he tries to be a real king, he too will end up like the prince—and places the mask on his face.
Now that the prince is dead, Dae-mok orders his men to bury him, but Hwa-goon comes out of her hiding place to stop him. Throwing herself into the ditch where Prince Sun lies, she yells at Dae-mok to return the prince to her, but Dae-mok merely tells her that he’s dead. Heeding Dae-mok’s order, Gon pulls Hwa-goon away while she spews hate toward her grandfather until she faints.
Meanwhile, Ga-eun successfully leaves the palace by disguising herself as a court lady on a task to deliver medicine and makes her way back home. She notices that the pouch she left for Sun is gone and goes back to the hill where Sun told her to meet him. Looking toward the moon, she wonders where he is, since she still has many things to tell him.
Once Dae-mok and his men leave, Chung-woon digs the prince out of his grave, having witnessed everything from afar. Weeping, he cradles Sun’s body, but stares in alarm when he feels the slightest bit of movement from him. By the time Hwa-goon regains consciousness, the prince is already gone, since Chung-woon has taken him to Woo Bo.
As Woo Bo begins acupuncture on Sun, Chung-woon expresses his worries about the fake prince taking the throne, and Woo Bo asks if Dae-mok’s puppet king is actually Lee Sun. Grimly, Chung-woon confirms it.
Dressed in mourning garb, Lee Sun is brought before the queen by a minister (who’s also a member of Pyunsoohwe). The queen greets the prince, but after hearing Lee Sun address her hesitantly, she realizes that the person before her is not the true prince.
The minister pressures the queen to pass down an order to enthrone the prince, and though she looks displeased, the queen agrees. She tells the prince to be a good king while handing over the royal seal, but from the tone of her voice and the look in her eye, the queen seems to be plotting something.
Meanwhile, back at Woo Bo’s place, Prince Sun stirs awake momentarily.
Dae-mok meets with the queen, and they exchange pleasantries laced with veiled threats. He asks the queen to give the Water Bureau the authority to print money, and when she expresses her skepticism, Dae-mok mentions how recent illegal printings have caused turmoil for the people. Smiling, he warns the queen that the only way to stop this problem is to call for a meeting tomorrow and authorize the Bureau to print money.
Thus, Lee Sun sits on the throne with a golden mask and white mourning clothes as the ministers urge him to approve the new decree that allows the Water Bureau to print money. Lee Sun is hesitant about the proposal, but as the ministers continue to pressure him, he grabs the royal seal to stamp the order.
Just as Lee Sun is about to stamp, the queen enters the hall. With her head held high, she marches past the ministers and seats herself next to the new king behind a curtain. The queen reminds everyone that the current king is only seventeen, pointedly addressing the ministers who are a part of Pyunsoohwe, and mentions how the law requires someone to assist the king until he is of age. Of course, the queen proposes that she assist him as the queen dowager, and she denies the Bureau control over the country’s currency. Gauntlet thrown!
The members of Pyunsoohwe complain and argue amongst themselves about the recent turn of events, especially since the current queen’s status and family’s power in the royal army are not to be easily undermined. However, Dae-mok silences the group and smiles. He’ll allow the queen to take over as the king’s advisor, but will show her just how powerless her military might is without money. To begin his plans, Dae-mok first orders for the Water Bureau to start loaning money out to the people.
Prince Sun wakes up, and Chung-woon is so happy that he instantly drops the bowl of medicine he was holding. On the other hand, Woo Bo chastises the young prince for trying to leave, but Prince Sun frantically explains that Dae-mok attacked the king.
Seeing Woo Bo’s lack of surprise, realization dawns on Sun, and he asks if his mother is still alive. Chung-woon avoids his stare, but eventually admits that both Royal Consort Lee and the king have died. Sun then asks what happened to Lee Sun, and Woo Bo tells him that Dae-mok raised him to the throne as the masked prince, noting how the king’s plan to help Prince Sun turned into poison.
Ga-eun walks alongside Lee Sun’s mother as everyone from the village is herded to the center by the guards from the Water Bureau. The chief of the Water Bureau sneers at the crowd for leeching off the government without properly paying and tells them that the new king follows the law. Thus, everyone will be kicked out of their homes and moved to a new location.
Lee Sun’s mother speaks up since the new location is a wild field unfit for farming, and Ga-eun accuses the chief of pushing everyone to their deaths. The chief says that everyone will either leave or die here, and angered, Ga-eun yells at him, asking if he isn’t afraid of the heavens. In response, the chief slaps Ga-eun, and reminds her of her new place in life as a criminal’s daughter.
One of the men in the crowd speaks out, saying that he’d rather die here than die elsewhere, so the chief beats him up as an example for anyone else who wishes to defy the new decree. Then he orders his men to empty all the houses, and Ga-eun watches helplessly as chaos roars around her.
All of the villagers gather together on the streets, and the man who was beaten asks Ga-eun if she remembers how the prince saved Lee Sun’s father’s life. At that moment, he thought that if this prince were to be the king, then their lives might improve. However, he wonders why everything is actually getting more difficult instead.
One by one, the villagers express their complaints, and Ga-eun silently tells her father that she’ll protect these people. Standing up, Ga-eun tells everyone to move to the new location, and when someone asks how they’ll farm to live, she explains that there are other ways to live besides farming.
Prince Sun wobbles out, ready to kill Dae-mok, but Woo Bo berates him for throwing away his life. Sun yells that Dae-mok killed everyone precious to him, but his outburst only makes Woo Bo ask how the current Prince Sun is any different from Dae-mok. Woo Bo explains how he once told Dae-mok to become a master, but instead, he became a wolf that everyone fears. Just like in the past, he will give the same answer to Sun: “Become the master.”
Woo Bo mentions that many people sacrificed themselves for Prince Sun and questions whether their sacrifices were made in order for Sun to get his petty revenge by killing Dae-mok. His words are enough to stop Sun’s reckless revenge, and he falls to the ground sobbing.
Ga-eun leads the villagers to the field and suggests opening a market. Since the field is located between two docks and a major town, Ga-eun predicts that they would surely make a profit as merchants. Lee Sun’s mother stands up and says that she believes in Ga-eun, and that’s enough for everyone to join.
While the villagers are busy rebuilding their homes, Prince Sun bows toward the palace and apologizes to his parents, since he won’t be able to visit right away. He promises to gain more power to take down Dae-mok and save Lee Sun and this country. He asks Chung-woon to help him, but Chung-woon tells him that he only needs to order his bodyguard to protect him.
The preparations for the new market go well as the villagers successfully build a well. Off in the distance, Sun watches Ga-eun celebrate with the villagers, but turns to leave without a word. Chung-woon stops him, wondering why he doesn’t talk to her, but Sun tells him that he’s responsible for the death of Ga-eun’s father.
Guilt flashes across Chung-woon’s face as Sun continues about how he can’t forget Ga-eun’s tears. He thinks it’s best for him to leave since Ga-eun told him she can’t be happy with him, but as Sun turns around to glimpse at Ga-eun one last time, she looks up too.
EPISODE 10 RECAP
Unfortunately, Ga-eun only sees the retreading backs of Sun and Chung-woon, and doesn’t think much of them.
Sun approaches a drunk Woo Bo to ask for advice on defeating Dae-mok, but Woo Bo simply tells him that he still doesn’t understand. He orders Sun to not do anything until he figures out what he’s supposed to do and promptly falls asleep.
Officer Park Moo-ha visits Ga-eun at the new village and offers his condolences, especially since her extended family abandoned her. Ga-eun assures him that the villagers are her family now, and proudly explains the plan to set up a market. Moo-ha offers to help her anyway he can, and remembering something, Ga-eun asks if he could help her get inside the palace, lying that she wants to sell medicine.
Prince Sun kneels before Woo Bo, who continues sleeping until a peddler walks by and wakes him up. Having expected the peddler, Woo Bo shares drink with his companion, and Woo Bo tells him to take Sun with him to train. The man laughs, thinking that Sun is too weak looking and won’t last a fortnight, so Woo Bo suggests a wager.
Thus, Sun ends up carrying the peddler’s belongings and trailing after him as he meets his men. The peddler, who’s the boss of the other peddlers, introduces Sun as a burden from Woo Bo, and when Sun fails to provide them with a name, the boss simply nicknames him “burden.” Heh.
That night, Sun lays sandwiched between snoring men, and unable to sleep, he goes outside for some air. He remembers his last moments with Woo Bo, as the old scholar told him to follow the peddler and learn his trade. He informed the prince about the peddlers’ vast network, and if he could gain their trust, he would gain one of the country’s best sources for information and transportation.
In the morning, dressed in more appropriate garbs, Sun helps load a wagon with goods, but stops his work when he hears a woman crying out. Carrying a baby on her back, the woman mourns her husband’s death, and the boss tells Sun that peddlers often die on the road.
Sun reaches into his pocket to help the widow, but he only has two coins. With a pleading look, Sun asks the boss if he can get an advance on his pay, but the boss merely smacks him upside the head. He asks Sun if he’ll do this for every widow that comes along and reminds him that his actions are futile. Instead, he hands Sun a red book and orders him to collect fees from the merchants.
Grumbling, Sun goes out to do his duty and is met with a range of responses—some bark angrily at him, while others give him sympathy. After finishing his round, Sun looks at the bag of coins and suddenly realizes that this is the answer.
Sun plays tug-of-war with the boss over the fee, reminding the boss about the peddler’s motto to help other peddlers when in need. The boss chases Sun around the tables, yelling that they can’t help everyone, but Sun disagrees.
He explains that the fees should be saved and used to help peddlers when they get injured or die. He repeats the boss’s words about a peddler’s fate to die on the road, and negotiates with the boss to use his plan just once.
While Sun seems to have convinced the other peddlers, it’s not enough for the boss, and he yells at his men to catch Sun. In the end, Sun falls to the floor as the other peddlers pile on top of him.
The next morning, the widow thanks the boss for giving her money for the funeral, and he says that the money came from everyone. One of the peddlers hands over the credit to their youngest, and the boss motions for Sun to step forward. The widow thanks him, and Sun grins adorably as he asks if he’s been promoted from “burden” to “maknae.” So cute!
The peddlers trek a rocky mountain on a gravel path while carrying goods on their back. The boss looks toward the back of the pack at Sun, who’s struggling to keep up, and smiles to himself.
Ga-eun walks down a path near the new village, and as time speeds up, we see the village slowly grow and flourish. Five years later, Ga-eun walks into the bustling market, but stops as she sees Sun shopping at a stand.
She chases after him, but the man turns out to be someone else, much to her disappointment. Suddenly, a little girl pops up behind her, and Ga-eun is surprised to see Kko-mool (Lee Sun’s little sister). She sighs, asking if Ga-eun still hasn’t forgotten about “Chun-soo,” and advises her to forget about her first love and find a new one. In response, Ga-eun bops her in the head and drags her home.
Kko-mool catches her mother staring blankly into space and guesses that she’s been thinking of Lee Sun again. Ga-eun mentions how she misses Lee Sun, but his mother pretends that she doesn’t. Ga-eun knows she’s lying since she leaves the gate open every night, and Lee Sun’s mother starts to cry, admitting that she worries he won’t be able to come back home if the gate is closed.
In the great hall, Lee Sun sits as the king, donning a golden mask, and the ministers urge the queen to relinquish her advisor position since the prince has come of age. Nervously, Lee Sun looks over to the queen, who opens a scroll with shaking hands. She agrees to step down, and the royal seal is finally passed to Lee Sun.
Dae-mok informs the members of Pyunsoohwe that the Water Bureau will soon be collecting all the money they loaned, and the members of Pyunsoohwe are to do the same. This creates a stir among the members, and when one of them asks what they should do if someone refuses to pay, he says that they’ll take collaterals. He orders the chief of the Water Bureau to collect the money before commanding his son to store everything until he gives him permission to use it.
The plans are quickly put into place as the chief of the Water Bureau marches into the market with the new order while Kko-mool sells medicine at the stand run by her mother and Ga-eun. He demands that everyone pay back the money they borrowed from the Water Bureau in two weeks, and posts the list of borrowers on a board. The medicine stand is also on the list, and the villagers complain about suddenly having to pay back such a large sum.
Ga-eun runs after the men from the Water Bureau as they stop by a small stall. The chief orders his men to take control since the owner failed to pay back her loan, and the men from the Water Bureau destroy her goods. The woman’s young daughter cries and falls to the ground, and Ga-eun runs up to help her. Holding onto the child, Ga-eun glares at the chief, and he glares back.
In the evening, the villagers gather for an emergency meeting, and Ga-eun reminds them that they’ve turned this barren land into a flourishing market. She asks a peddler in their group about their leader, whom he mentioned before. Another villager asks if he has lots of money, and the peddler gets up to explain that the peddlers’ leader rose to the position because of his knowledge and problem-solving skills.
Lee Sun’s mother asks what the cost of his help would be, and the peddler says that the leader only asks for absolute trust and loyalty. Thus, Ga-eun offers to meet with this leader to see if he could help them.
Woo Bo visits Lee Sun’s mother, and trades friendly barbs with Kko-mool. He wonders where Ga-eun is, and learns that she left to meet the peddlers’ leader. Surprised, he wonders aloud if those two have been linked by fate.
Ga-eun follows the peddlers up the arduous mountain path while dressed as one of them, but noticing her bloody foot, they suggest taking a break. They spot smoke across the mountain peak, and make their way towards it.
Elsewhere, Sun and Chung-woon, dressed in dark clothes and wearing masks, knock out a few guards from the Water Bureau in order to spy on the Water Bureau Chief and Dae-mok’s son, who are looking at boxes of copper inside a storage room. Their spying is interrupted by shouts from the other side, and when they go to check it out, Sun recognizes Ga-eun amongst the captured peddlers.
COMMENTS
Last episode, Dae-mok pointed out how the king’s plans have backfired on him, and this episode showed what he meant. First, the king’s plan to kill Dae-mok became the catalyst for Dae-mok to finally bring down the king, but it’s really the king’s plan concerning the mask that led him to his ultimate downfall (which was also mentioned by Woo Bo). It’s ironic how the mask that was supposed to save the prince’s life actually endangered his life by making his place in the world precarious. Since the mask embodied the prince’s identity, the mask soon became the “prince” rather than the person behind it. As a result, whoever controls the mask controls the prince (who is now the king).
The subtitle of the show (Master of the Mask) really makes sense; since now that Prince Sun has lost his mask, the conflict revolves around becoming the “master” of the mask, both physically and metaphorically. However, even then, the interpretation of what a master is and does depends on the character and his or her actions. I think Woo Bo’s continuous mantra of “being the master” is not about power but more about a person’s character, so while being the master for Dae-mok solely means having control over the mask (and throne), becoming the master of the mask is a completely different journey for Prince Sun.
I cannot express how much I love the (adult) villains of this show. Besides Dae-mok, the queen is shaping up to be quite a formidable and cunning antagonist who is equally hungry for power and ruthless in her pursuit. I find her intriguing and hope the show doesn’t kill her off too soon, since I think Dae-mok needs more adversaries than just Prince Sun. Also, Dae-mok’s son seems much less cunning than Dae-mok (since he couldn’t even understand Dae-mok’s plan to control the economy by hoarding the money), and none of the other members of Pyunsoohwe are nearly as tough as the queen, so they won’t become worthy roadblocks for the show’s resident villain.
I also hope the show will reveal more about Peasant Lee Sun and how he’s changed while being the puppet king for five years. From the way his mother acts, it appears that Lee Sun hasn’t been home at all or been able to contact his family. He must be terrified since Dae-mok controls him from behind while the queen controls him from the side. In addition, the very reason he agreed to wear the mask has disappeared, so his new role must be taking a toll on him. However, the show has told us that Lee Sun is actually quite intelligent, so I’m hoping that he might also be secretly planning his own revolt in the shadows while pretending to be an obedient puppet. There’s a lot of potential for Lee Sun as a character, besides being a friend in distress who needs saving, and I really want the show to capitalize on his unique position and the problems he must face.
At this point in the story, the time skip seemed inevitable and necessary. The show has done a good job portraying Sun as the naïve prince with admirable ideals, but it’s also highlighted his powerlessness. Prince Sun needs to gain more knowledge and a better understanding of the real world—including the daily struggles of the people and their needs—in order to take down Dae-mok and, more importantly, to become a good king for his people. It seems like Prince Sun has risen in rank and may be the new leader of the peddlers that Ga-eun is hoping to meet. Either way, if the ending scene is any indication, it does seem like Sun has learned some new skills, and hasn’t been idle these past five years. Let the battle begin!
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1 aoiaheen
May 26, 2017 at 11:35 AM
Yay! Mane of glory is back! Doesn't YSH wear it well?
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s9313071e
May 26, 2017 at 11:39 AM
I like his hairstyle at the end of the episode. It does make him look more handsome. Heh.
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celine
May 26, 2017 at 4:35 PM
I like this new hairstyle more than the top-knot and I like his clothes outside of the palace. Can we just have Prince Sun rule with the people and not return to the palace so we can keep the hair and the clothes? hehe!
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chingu
May 26, 2017 at 11:50 AM
Among many things, YES, he wears it well. He wears the hanboks well, the metal mask well, the straw hat with the cute lil' cotton balls well, the nobleman hat (which I just learned is called a "gat") well, the cloth around his forehead well, and the list goes on and on...
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muymuy
May 26, 2017 at 12:01 PM
I think he a spectacular in everything. Is there anything YSH is bad at? ?
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PeepsLeAwesomePotato
May 26, 2017 at 6:17 PM
Math.
Apparently, he hates the subject.
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chingu
May 26, 2017 at 11:50 PM
I feel 'em. Math's always been my biggest weakness. Sigh.
2 s9313071e
May 26, 2017 at 11:44 AM
I enjoyed the CP's encounter with the peddlers. I love the contrast between the CP's idealistic nature and the peddlers' realistic manner of looking at things, and I am glad that the CP's idealistic nature wins them over in the end. I love how hard the CP tries to integrate into the peddlers' lives, and how the head peddler looks out for him and takes care of him like a son.
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celine
May 26, 2017 at 4:46 PM
This is the best boot camp to becoming a great King. Live among the people. Feel and experience their struggles. Understand their situation and come up with ways to help them. I'm glad that while he's learning that his upright principles alone can never defeat the enemy, he did not completely lost them in place for more cunning and strategic mindset. I think a combination of both is best for him to not only defeat the enemy but to become a great leader for the people.
I admit that I think the show used too much of YSH's tears, but I see it as a way to show the stark difference from the idealistic, powerless, sheltered prince before and the one we are about to meet now. He was naive and reckless and full of uprightness. Now he needs to be stronger and more cunning. Woobo knocked some serious sense into him even if it took him quite a number of attempts.
Loveparks' analysis of the meaning behind "master of the mask" is really nicely put.
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3 immawish
May 26, 2017 at 11:47 AM
I replayed that scene with Prince Sun and his new hair 6884238862 times. Thank You Drama
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s9313071e
May 26, 2017 at 11:52 AM
You like his new hairstyle that much? Me too. I watched the next episode multiple times because I can't get enough of his hairstyle.
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celine
May 26, 2017 at 4:48 PM
My new favorite mane of glory! He should keep it!
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4 Hye Mi
May 26, 2017 at 11:50 AM
Thank you for the recap!
Interesting revelation about the Queen. Then can we understand HG's threat under this new light?
'You will be sorrier in 10 years.'
Does she and her grandpa knows this side to the Queen? I'm still not convinced because if that was the case DM would have thought of a plan to hold the Queen in check. However, if they were completely caught off guard by her scheming then HG's threat has lost some of its weight and potential to be interesting (reads: battle between DM and the Queen).
Then I'm not too sure about the addition of the Queen to our already full plate. The writers have had a lot to delve into already so I'm still skeptical about this turn of event. Here hoping they can tie everything neatly by the end of the show.
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s9313071e
May 26, 2017 at 11:55 AM
Is the Queen really as scheming as she seems? I get the idea that she knows that the CP is not the real deal, so she seeks to curtail his power. She knows DM is the one controlling the CP, hence he is the one with the real power while the CP is the puppet.
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Hye Mi
May 26, 2017 at 12:03 PM
I honestly don't know. It's very difficult to make of some characters because next ep her action threw my assumption out the window. I really haven't seen how she fits in with our story as a whole. Perhaps later on there will be explanations as to what role she played in the assassination of the King and later in all of this reigning thing.
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celine
May 26, 2017 at 4:50 PM
Yeah. This is exactly my take on the Queen's actions. I saw it as a way to help the prince (who I felt she knew is not the real one). I think the next episode will reveal much more to the real nature of the Queen.
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5 Starry Knight✨
May 26, 2017 at 11:59 AM
I'm just not feeling Ga Eun. She seems like the typical goodie heroine with no interesting or unique character trait.
The prince was also naive and straightforward in his revenge but thank heavens Woo Bo was there to teach him the nuances of strategy. When dealing with villains such as Dae Mok it's important to have an equal if not higher level of wit and cunning to stay a step ahead of him and overthrow his plans. I wish that they show how the prince experiences real world and grows more mature and wordly during that time skip.
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s9313071e
May 26, 2017 at 12:05 PM
Yes! I am also not feeling GE either. She seems the typical one dimensional goody two shoes character. In fact, I am more fascinated by HG, despite the role being played by a weaker actress. I think HG is more layered and intriguing than what the actress is able to portray currently.
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poiopi
May 26, 2017 at 5:51 PM
yay!! my feelings too!! I wish hwa geon was the main lead. Ga eun is so bloody boring. they have zero chemistry together.
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Summer
May 26, 2017 at 9:26 PM
HG really isn't as layered as people make her out to be. She's smart, self-absorbed and obsessive. Basically she's a sociopath of sorts. It's pretty much a stock character in and of itself. YSH is probably unable to add layers to her character because it isn't written in the script or character description and so she doesn't know how to add dimensions to her 2D character.
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martha
May 26, 2017 at 12:43 PM
KIM SO HYUN deserves better...am really hoping for a major arc change in her character soon ....she is the only one who hasnt changed much after the time skip..i wonder what was the writter thinking while he was writting these 2 characters..i mean ksy is faar more capable than soo hee but she has been given a weaker character....so FAR I HAVENT SEEN THE VEGENCE i was promised in the teasers...also the one helping the prince is HG AHHHHHHHH!they said she was the one who will help him bcome a better ruler........................PLS DRAMA GODS DO SOMETHING .......am hoping the writter has smthing amazing in store and i will have the so hyun i love soon enough
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Ana
May 26, 2017 at 1:21 PM
Same. For instance the whole leading the village it would have been far more interesting and believable adn character building to see some conflict and opposition (she's an inexperienced, teenage girl in sexist, seniority obsessed Joseon South Korea for goodness sake) and see her have to fight her corner but everyone just like "Yay Ga Eun is the best!" and it's all good.
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6 s9313071e
May 26, 2017 at 12:02 PM
How many episodes does this drama have?
It's already 10 episodes, but GE's characterization is still weak. She still seems one dimensional, from what I have watched of this episode and next. I thought she is a woman gunning for revenge on the CP. I don't see any signs of growth in that area. She is still the innocent, lovely Lady Han everyone knows.
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Hye Mi
May 26, 2017 at 12:08 PM
20 standards, 40 in the new format I think, unless there will be talk of extensions later on, but that will have to depend a great deal on ratings in later episodes.
Technically we're at ep 6 going by the old format of 20 one-hour episodes. Still, it's one third of the way already and I feel you on the writing of GE character. I think I'll give it 4 more episodes to see how it goes.
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Clove
May 26, 2017 at 12:11 PM
She's basically a 1D Lee Eun Bi of the Joseon era at this point. But saeguk heroines are generally poorly written. I feel if it weren't for KSH I would have no interest in the character at all. I'm so glad she's playing a negative character in her upcoming cameo. I'll just wait for that for now.
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Hye Mi
May 27, 2017 at 5:49 AM
I'm neutral to Lee Eun Bi so her lack of character development didn't bother me as much when I watched Scholar, though later I ended up dropping it. Now I can empathise with LEB's fans because I'm in their shoes now: the actress that I care about and watch the drama for doesn't get what I think she deserves.
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Clove
May 27, 2017 at 6:46 AM
I was talking about Lee Eun-Bi from School 2015. KSH's character in that show. Lol!
She was the weaker of the two twins and the one closer to a candy character but that character was much better written and was more 2D was what I meant.
I've not seen Scholar so I'm not sure Lee Yu Bi's role in that.
Hye Mi
May 27, 2017 at 1:57 PM
Oh LOL my bad haha. I dropped School 2015 because bullying doesn't sit well with me and what I've seen in the series was too disturbing (not a criticism; all the actresses did so well it brought the problem too close to home I found it very hard to watch since it hurt too much). That's why the name didn't ring a bell and I mixed her up with Lee Yoo Bi
On the bright side, now you know which series to avoid I guess XD.
martha
May 26, 2017 at 12:36 PM
am sooo pisssed at the writer for this drama AND I FEEL CHEATED...I WAS also looking forward to a strong revenge drama on ksy's part....i think most of us were excited for this drama bcos of ysh and ksy and we all know how BAD ASS kim so hyun can be but i feel like she is under used here LIKE SHE CLD BE 100 BUT SHE IS MADE TO BE 50%....am soo dissapointed but its still episode 6 xo AM REALLY HOPING HER CHARACTER WILL CHANGE SOON ENOUGH..........LET her know the crown prince's iDENTITY if that will awake a fire in her
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Grapes
May 26, 2017 at 1:37 PM
Arghh.., i am so pissed too specially after watching the next episode, she has no important screen time with CP, i am only interested in this drama because of her, if she turned to be a typical innocent heroine i am not sure if i can stay tuned because i am trying hard to like the drama and stick around.
Also reading so many comments from viewers that wish for CP to like HG and even root for her is annoying and shows how bad and disappointing KSH character is, i wish she has more important role in the next episodes, i still have hopes.
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GG01
May 26, 2017 at 3:28 PM
I feel a bit bad for rooting for the second female lead because I really like Ga Eun. =( But since episode 1, I felt more intense chemistry between crown prince and the second female lead. And is weird because I still like Ga Eun more than the other girl. Is not that I dislike the main couple, I found them cute, but is hard for me to believe they are that deep in love for only knowing each other from a day before all the mess happened. The writing has some plot holes but I still like the drama.
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Mina
May 26, 2017 at 6:10 PM
I understand you so well right now! That's exactly what I am feeling! I am faithful to KSH so whether HG is a good character or not, YSH is a good actress or not, I don't care, I will always root for GE so it is so annoying to read some comments because I know my girl could have done so much better!
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Shan
May 26, 2017 at 6:36 PM
I know! I was disappointed when the revenge stopped for 5 years. But! I do think we are seeing GE starting to fight back, albeit slower. She stood up against the Water Bureau guy all by herself - she has no bodyguard compared to CP and HG - and I feel like we will see her growth/change as she finds out truth after truth. It's exciting to guess what her reaction will be, and I guess less reason to watch if all the characters knew the truth right from the start.
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7 kiara
May 26, 2017 at 12:06 PM
The queen is the only one left in the royal family to face Dae-mok alone. She has every right to fight for power as the rightful dowager queen of Joseon.
Fortunately she is older and seems wiser than the former king and would handle Dae-mok as best as she knows how.
She is worth rooting for!
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s9313071e
May 26, 2017 at 12:10 PM
At the moment, I am rooting for the Queen too. She seems to know more than she lets on, but she is wisely keeping her observations to herself for fear of upsetting the power balance in the royal court. Unless the writer makes her out as a power hungry bad guy, I will be rooting for her.
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Hye Mi
May 26, 2017 at 12:14 PM
I'm just curious as to why she hasn't been poisoned by DM already. The guy seems to be a control freak and wouldn't take it easy on any threat to his power or position.
Then I started to doubt if it was really DM who poisoned the King Consort.
I was kind of prepared with everyone's speculations about the Queen's nature in earlier eps, but she still completely came out of the left field for me XD.
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Shan
May 26, 2017 at 6:31 PM
I agree! I'm intrigued to find out what her goals/ambitions are. I wonder if her relative in Pyunsoohwe is tipping her off? Maybe they can't kill her off because they don't have the loyalty of that half of the military, so they might easily turn on them? It's good that within the palace there are battling wits as well, if not Pyunsoohwe would have ruled the country even before timejump and there wouldnt be as much story to go on!
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mango
May 26, 2017 at 8:41 PM
The queen knows what she's doing and that's what is keeping her alive. I wonder if she will become Prince Sun's ally or be greedy for power.
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8 Mayflower
May 26, 2017 at 12:27 PM
This is basically Doctor Stranger, the only time I ever rooted for a 2nd female lead. But Yoon So Hee is no Kang So Ra and her pronunciation is so off!
Also, why does this drama have such uneven screen time for the four leads? L & KSH have a lot less screen time than they should. Is this writer trying to pull a gender reversed CIIT? That drama still gives me nightmares!
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martha
May 26, 2017 at 12:57 PM
hhahahaha i hope not..still hate how they cheated phj
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Hye Mi
May 26, 2017 at 1:29 PM
Your second question: That's my biggest beef with the writer. Call me bitter or impatient and whatnots, but the even in a male-centric drama the female lead should never be this sidelined.
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Mayflower
May 26, 2017 at 9:40 PM
This writer doesn't know how to write ALL her characters into the main storyline it seems.
Also, if there really was more plot to be explored then they should have just made this a longer series rather than trying to fit it all into 20 episodes. They've been filming for 6 months. A 50 episode drama could easily have been filmed in this time.
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Hye Mi
May 27, 2017 at 5:54 AM
Let's say these writers don't know how to handle multiple characters and have serious problems giving priorities where priorities are due.
When I pay more attention to the details and how each character is fleshed out on screen, many of what I have considered smart/ cunning/ thoughtful traits more often than not turn out to be convenient writing to make the characters look so rather than making them a real part of their personalities/ behaviour.
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Mayflower
May 27, 2017 at 6:25 AM
Agreed, its like they created a world with these numerous characters but now can't figure out how to sew them all into the main storyline.
But I guess we never should have expected this much from a rookie writer. Its just sad KSH is suffering the brunt of that bad writing but I don't want to give up on a show in which she's clearly put in a lot of effort.
Here's hoping for better in future episodes!
Mayflower
May 27, 2017 at 6:26 AM
* should have expected
9 Lunabird
May 26, 2017 at 12:41 PM
A great episode! I love how this show is bringing out Ga Sun's clever and passionate character along with Prince Sun's good ideals but powerless role. That cliffhanger at the end added so much more suspense as I was wondering after 5 years, how was Prince Sun going to react and save her. As for the other Lee Sun, I really wonder how he is going to revolt, when Dae Mok is pulling the strings behind him and the Queen is right on his side to "assist" him. He seems to be stuck. Furthermore, the villains are proving to be very powerful and I think that they are very good at their part. Hopefully, the people will finally find out the true ruler at the end, and the real master of that mask.
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10 Ana
May 26, 2017 at 12:42 PM
Sigh. I don't know...maybe my expectations were too high from the early descriptions, advertising and hype.
The writing for this show is just so weak. It's like they just keep throwing everything at us with the hope that we don't have time to think too much or look too closely. Everything happens so quickly to everyone that I struggle to care about any of the characters or anything that's happening.
Characters with the exception of possibly Hwa Goon are unoriginal copy + paste.
L's acting isn't as terrible as I thought it was going to be and that's the most I can say about him.
Hwa Goon is a very interesting character and I actually feel her relationship with the Prince would have made a far more interesting and torturous central love story. I think Yoon So Hee is doing OK now after a shaky start and is improving but I think with a more superiorly talented actress from the beginning this character would steal the show and be a fan favourite.
The main loveline is weak and unconvincing. I'd get it if the lead characters had a little crush on each other from their interactions but we're supposed to believe they are in love. Not buying it. I don't think the writer knows how to write romance. He just threw in a few cliche scenes and then was like, screw it, it's Yoo Seung Ho and Kim So Hyun the fangirls can do the rest of the work.
Nor do I even understand why KSH took this for her first 'adult' lead role role. She must be getting better offers than this milquetoast stock love interest female character?
The directing and editing is also very slapdash considering this is mostly pre-produced.
Maybe post-timeskip the Prince will stop crying every episode? It really hard to sustain pathos when he's breaking into tears every episode. By this episode I just find myself thinking how good Yoo Seung Ho is at crying scenes but I can't really feel anything anymore.
Poor Yoo Seung Ho. He is hard carrying this thing and we're only a third of the way in.
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Ana
May 26, 2017 at 1:03 PM
* I meant "tortured" not "torturous"! I really need to register so I can edit.
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TheImprintOnMyNose
May 27, 2017 at 6:11 AM
Nah you can't edit even if ur registered, which is annoying. The previous format of the site had it better
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Ana
May 26, 2017 at 1:06 PM
*Sorry. I meant "tortured" not "torturous"! I really need to register so I can edit.
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Ek Ladhki Thi
May 26, 2017 at 7:03 PM
I wish I could copy your entire comment and repost it. I'm glad I'm not the only one feeling disappointed with this show. I also agree about the romance, I let out a long scream when the prince appeared in front of Hwa-gon and she had tears when she saw him, and I felt nothing when Ga-eun and Prince Sun reunited. I feel cheated on behalf of Kim So-hyun with how underused she is in this drama. Right now, I'm having major second lead syndrome in spite of my love for the actors playing the lead roles. I love Yoo Seung-ho, but I had more emotions when Peasant Sun tried to throw himself off a cliff and was stopped by the grateful guard dude than from a combination of Prince Sun's crying scenes. This is not what I wanted from this drama and it saddens me greatly.
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Solo
May 27, 2017 at 12:00 AM
I think we are essentially suppossed to like/identify with all the lead characters since they represent different corners of the power struggle and the journey to build a nation which is essentially what this drama is all about. Its an extravagant coming of age story of sorts with murder and politics thrown in for good measure.
I think you're just too focused on a certain aspect of the show which is why when that falls a little flat you get disappointed. I don't think we should ever have expected a perfect show and I also don't think the screen time for the actors is something that is a problem. Considering how most of Yoon So Hee's scenes were filmed only March onwards while YSH, KSH & L have been filming since Jan there is plenty of screen time for them in the future.
Its okay to not love the show but we need to find more constructive criticism than 'please give XYZ more screen time'. Its only the 6th episode and they have basically tried to cram a 30-50 episode Saeguk into a 20 episode one. If this were a rom-com or only romance focused saeguk the OTP would be front and centre but since it isn't there are not too many scenes with the OTP but whenever they are together they shine so that's something to be happy about.
And every good drama needs competent 2nd leads to root for! Which is what makes the contrast between them so fun!
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Ek Ladhki Thi
May 27, 2017 at 1:29 AM
But that's the problem, I'm watching these characters and while I see what the writer is trying to tell me, I cannot identify with it. It's not just about Kim So-hyun's screen time, it's never been, it's about the way her character has been treated like an afterthought so far.
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martha
May 27, 2017 at 2:12 AM
yap my point exactly.......she cld be more and we were expecting more and i elieve in korea this series will lose major viewers if character description and screen tym continue this way.........people are not getting what they were promised or come to look for
Solo
May 27, 2017 at 2:48 AM
I don't think GE is an afterthought but yes she is not the best written character. Its something I'm willing to forgive the writer(s) for though because they are basically writing 20 different characters and the main story they want to tell is about how a powerless prince rises to fight against a powerful organisation. This drama was about politics and power struggle from the very beginning and I think that's why people started watching it in the first place. If I remember correctly, the very first character description for GE was ' a woman who LS loves and who helps him grow as a justice ruler' or something like that. The revenge part was added later and frankly I don't think turning into a murderer actually suits GE's virtues. In fact over turning the authority of the throne would be a more fitting revenge for her.
By gathering the masses on her side GE is actually getting stronger not weaker. And since when does darkness trump kindness? She is a firm and resolute female lead who is trying to make practical life choices.
And I have to admit these 6 episodes have basically been set up. Even the CP has not grown that much. He's just more aware of reality and doesn't cry at the drop of a hat anymore but that's about it. You still have 14 episodes to go, lets wait and see where else this story takes us.
Lulla
May 27, 2017 at 1:33 AM
So agree with this
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Lulla
May 27, 2017 at 1:35 AM
I mean, agree with Solo
Ek Ladhki Thi
May 27, 2017 at 1:38 AM
Oh, and because this isn't a 50 episode saguek is the main reason why they need to develop the female lead as well as the male lead, it is more understandable to sacrifice the second female lead because this drama isn't even supposed to be about her.
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Solo
May 27, 2017 at 2:54 AM
I agree they should develop the leads better precisely because of that but they are rookie writers so I get their inability to do so.
I'm not sure of the exact motivations to write this kind of a 2nd female lead but I'm reminded of Lee Honey's character in Shine or Go Crazy and how amazing she was as a 2nd lead and made a nice contrast to female lead. I think the point is to show that many types of women existed in the Joseon era which is an interesting point to make but yes I think they did get too carried away with one character over the other. Nonetheless, I still find this show in and of itself quite interesting.
11 slimrocket
May 26, 2017 at 12:57 PM
Write a comment...I also want Lee sun to plot something behind dae mok's back after all he is described to be quick and smart.
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12 Hanabi
May 26, 2017 at 1:02 PM
Super disappointed. The story is lackluster and I just don't feel the chemistry between the leads at all. I don't really understand at which point did they fall in love or why are they so in love? I think I will give this drama a few more episodes and if things don't change then I am dropping it.
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martha
May 26, 2017 at 1:30 PM
i think the leads have chemistry its just that i need more or a bt bad ass bcos dae mok and his entire army are bad ass..... the story is interesting cant see much of the leads together bcos the writter is stupid enough to gv the CP and HG more screen tym ....am putting my faith in the leads to deriver
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Summer
May 26, 2017 at 9:05 PM
To people wondering at which point they fall in love can I just say no one one in this drama falls in love with fan fare. HG fell in love at first sight for CP and CP for GE who in turn fell for CP because she felt something familiar with him since she met him. Possibly at first sight since we all know how she stared at him. LS has loved GE basically all his life.
And how can anyone say GE and CP have no chemistry! Even in still cuts KSH & YSH have crackling chemistry! While HG & CP chemistry feels so manufactured mostly coz he just looks soooo uninterested in her!
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Hanabi
May 28, 2017 at 5:45 AM
Oh yeah, maybe the slow-mo horse riding and the "we look into each other's eyes for an eternity while a slow song is playing in the background" does it for you but I've been watching K dramas for 6 years, it is not enough for me anymore. I am crawing for solid writing, love lines and characters and so far I don't see it in this drama. Just because I like the actors, I am not gonna pretend I like the show.
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13 silvermists
May 26, 2017 at 1:06 PM
I am so happy Ga-eun got to shine in this episode in her own small way. She's an exceptionally smart and intelligent woman (girl?) and I am so glad we got to see her use that to guide her people to safety and showed them the way to set up new homes and a source of livelihood for themselves!
I love the quiet dignity that Kim So Hyun exhibits in all of her characters that make them seem so much more regal. It's something that shows so clearly in this episode: you can take the title out of the noble woman, but that dignity and kindness? that she is born with.
In the same way we see the Prince exude pride and dignity in everything from the way he holds himself, to the way he talks and the way he binds with people. It's what makes him such an excellent, and natural, leader. He commands attention and respect from his very bearing and loyalty through his actions. It's why people listen to him. And it is also why no matter how much the peasant Lee Sun pretends to be king, he can never own to the role. Ultimately, if it comes to a showdown between the real and the fake king, I would think ones reputation would speak for itself.
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Grapes
May 26, 2017 at 1:49 PM
I was so delighted in this episode because GE was like a leader and hope for those poor people, and we didn't see much of HG and prince scenes together but the next episodes happened i am disappointed again.
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Ana
May 26, 2017 at 2:27 PM
I find this line of thinking classist and something I see quite a bit in Korean dramas. That only those born into money, royalty nobility are innately more dignified, worthy, leaders. Meanwhile the poor are usually depicted as ignorant buffoons who need the wealthy/nobility/royalty to shepherd and think for them.
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Gwinna
May 26, 2017 at 4:49 PM
Yes, that has started to bother me a bit in this drama as well. The CP has gained power as a peddlar but LS has made zero progress as king after 5 years? Granted Dae-mok is keeping a close watch on him, but as he is one of our main characters it would have been nice to see him take some kind of initiative. Portraying him solely as a victim seems kind of classist.
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celine
May 26, 2017 at 5:34 PM
I would have loved to see more of King Sun in those five years, but I doubt he made any growth because he is a puppet. That being said, I think we have a good chance of seeing him develop when he reunites with Prince Sun and Gaeun. I don't know how that will happen just yet, but Gaeun wants to get inside the palace to assist the royal physician and for sure Prince Sun will find his way back to the palace to save his friend on the throne. Those might pave the way.
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Lulla
May 26, 2017 at 9:33 PM
I think it's because CP and HG are both royal/has educated background, while LS came from a poor family. LS has been used to think that 'I'm a nobody, I'm just a poor peasant, I'm just a replacement for the CP", while the others think about how to survive and to reach their goals. LS has been hiding for 5 years and basically only trying to hang on, feeling desperate that the CP is already dead and there's no way he can replace him. There should be a day when he finally realizes that he can do something too, no mater who he is or what his background is.
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Lulla
May 26, 2017 at 9:34 PM
Sorry, I mean CP and GE
Mina
May 26, 2017 at 6:04 PM
Love your comment to bits!! That's the kind of thing I want to read! Lol
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14 aklr
May 26, 2017 at 1:52 PM
What are the plans of the Queen? Could it be that Fake Prince is still going to be a puppet or is he going to fight?
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15 martha
May 26, 2017 at 2:03 PM
may i take a moment and apreciate dae mok as a worthy villain....a great villain makes a creat hero.i love the queen a lot and i hope she is on the good side.....i love Ge eun am hoping she will go black ninja soon enough even on the CP(momentaly after knowing his true identity) just to have the moment i hv been waiting for.also i hope so hee doesnt kill anyone or bcome jelous in the future(bcoz she has a murderous nature)
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16 White
May 26, 2017 at 2:22 PM
I do not doubt acting kim so hyun, I believe because she's the queen of drama. Hopefully writernim can change the character becomes more interesting
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17 panshel
May 26, 2017 at 3:18 PM
I am so unbelievably proud of Sun, I could cry. Working his way from the bottom, understanding what it means to help each other, having empathy and sympathy -- he will make the best king. Woo Bo is such a wise teacher. I loved Sun collecting market fees. (sulking) "Ye, gomapseumnida."
I've never been so happy to see Fate in my life. I can't wait until Sun and Ga Eun reunite. After the hell they've been through, both of them really need someone to lean on. Dae Mok has now killed every single one of their fathers: Lee Sun, Ga Eun, Prince Sun (also killed his mother), and Chung Woon. I knew the villagers building a well was too good to be true. The Water Bureau would never let the people have free water.
Ever since the casting was announced, I was prepared for L to be the acting weak link, but in actuality, Yoon So Hee is ruining this show. Good grief, she is horrible.
Thanks a bunch for the recap, @lovepark!
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18 chingu
May 26, 2017 at 4:48 PM
Thank you for the recap, @lovepark!
Oh man, when Ga-eun led the ENTIRE VILLAGE, albeit small, to the deserted land, I was just so proud of her. I wish Prince (ehem, King) Sun was there to witness that momentous moment because I was just like, "That's the future queen right there!" *sheds a tear* I'm so proud of her and everyone for having the faith, bravery and strength to START ALL OVER in a brand new place and build their own flourishing little town. *cries tears of joy* ??????
Goodness gracious, I just LOVE that Sun is working his way from the bottom, up and earning all of these people's trust and loyalty because I keep imagining the epic moment when–with the help of the nation–he will rise above Dae-mok and his evil underlings and successfully take back his rightful place on the throne. I can't WAIT to see all their evil faces admit defeat! Mwuhahaha!
I also hope that Lee Sun will never forget his roots and everyone that helped him along the way (Ga-eun and Sun) so when the time comes, he'll happily return what belongs to Sun back to him and be on his and Ga-eun's side and help them defeat Dae-mok.
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Shan
May 26, 2017 at 7:13 PM
I think that's why I'm rooting for CP and GE more! They have to start from the bottom and work their way up, and they built their trust among the people. I felt like HG had everything handed to her on a platter, although she is smart and knows how to use what she has. But for eg. having Gon save the prince, would she have been able to do that if not for the fact that her grandfather easily gave Gon to her? I'm all for the common people rising up against the evil Pyunsoohwe so I can't wait to see how it will go about.
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19 beodimel
May 26, 2017 at 5:03 PM
Sometimes this show loses my interest, but pulls me back in the next second. Most of it is credit to YSH.
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20 Gwinna
May 26, 2017 at 5:09 PM
I feel like this episode is a bit weaker than the ones before. Both Ga-eun leading the villagers to move and set up a market and the crown prince earning respect among the peddlars happened a bit too fast to have much weight or let us feel their struggles. Also, the plotholes are a bit more apparent - why didn't Dae-mok kill the queen along with the king if she is so powerful? Why were the villagers being forced to move in the first place? It's never explained, and that makes the story weaker. That being said, so far it's still entertaining enough for me to keep watching.
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lulla
May 26, 2017 at 6:07 PM
I'm also wondering why the Queen is not poisoned. If it was said that she had strong connection with the millitary, then wouldnt it give stronger reason to kill her? Or, perhaps she has stronger bodyguards/more security around her, that makes her impossible to be killed *shrugs - I think this is the only logical explanation from now*. Becoz, if the Kind agreed to work with Pyunsoohwee, then the group could place people around him and his family. On the other hand, if the Queen stays among her trusted people, then it will be difficult for Pyunsoo guys to approach her.
But, I love it that CP becomes the chief peddler. I think this part still makes sense, considering how smart and passionate he is. I can imagine him earning respect from everyone with his bright innovative ideas. GE is also the same. She has that strong characters to begin with, so it's only natural for her to lead everyone. But, perhaps the drama needed to show how she slowly gained the trust of everyone, like CP did, so that her story felt more believable and didnt feel 'too easy'
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Lulla
May 26, 2017 at 6:09 PM
Becoz, if the Kind agreed to work with Pyunsoohwee, -> I mean, "the King", sorry
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Gwinna
May 26, 2017 at 6:24 PM
The only thing I can think of is if the queen were killed then her family (with control over the military) might revolt, so it's less trouble for DM to keep her around and neutralize her power instead.
I think it is consistent with what we have been shown of the CP and GE's characters that they would both end up becoming leaders, I just wish the show had spent a little more time showing their struggles so that their eventual success could have had more meaning.
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Lulla
May 26, 2017 at 8:07 PM
You are right about the Queen. From the way DM handles her, it seems that he is a lot more careful than the way he handles the King and family. The queen must have more political power than what DM can handle. And I dunno about others saying that the Queen is power hungry, I believe that she is a true kind politician who loves and wants to protect the kingdom. She didnt hold any grudge toward CP's mother who gave birth of a son (instead of her), and she was obviously suspicious of the identity of the fake CP, yet still being careful and not taking any careless actions. I really wonder whether she quietly had been investigating the identity of the CP or not, or perhaps DM/Pyunsoo activities. And I'm guessing that she will be an important figure to bring the real CP back to the palace (perhaps GE will be her trustful underling in the future)
Anyway, I like the way DM's going to go against her by trying to control money, and that leads him/his men to the real CP's interference (the copper case). Despite the flaws of the plot, I find this one quite interesting . I cant wait to see how this plot is connecting the characters.
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mungbean
May 26, 2017 at 7:39 PM
I think GE's journey to being the villagers' leader is a bit diff from CP though. CP had to work harder to gain the other peddlers' trust since they literally know nothing about him. Whereas with GE, assuming she's lived with those villagers her whole life (which is likely since LS' mom took care of her as a baby in the character descriptions) then there's already a bond between her and the villagers. They probably watched her grow up and you can tell with the way they address and treat her, it's like she's their precious little Young Agassi. Plus you add the fact that her dad was very well respected (even if he died as criminal) by those villagers so for GE it was only a matter of taking after her father. Although we've only seen stuff here and there (like her treating that child way back in ep 1 or 2), we know she's a caring character so she already built their trust little by little as she was growing up.
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Lulla
May 26, 2017 at 8:17 PM
You are right, I agree with you too. GE and her dad are already known as good people by the villagers. Considering that she is so intelligent and has a leadership character, then it's easy for her to mobilize the people!
Yeah, after reading people's comments, now I realize why the drama gives GE this role. GE is meant to be a leader/the Queen, along with CP. So, they should gain the love and the trust of the people, then slowly climbing up to the top towards the merchant groups. When the time comes, they will have enough political power (the people's support) that is strong enough to claim the throne.
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21 celine
May 26, 2017 at 5:29 PM
I am still enjoying Ruler though I find it uneven. When something is great, it's really truly great in its delivery like those scenes of Prince Sun with the peddlers. I felt so proud watching him. And that walk up in the mountains is reminiscent of Lord of the Rings journey to me lol
For now, I enjoy the growth of Prince Sun. I wish to see more on King Sun and Gaeun as well. On the other hand, Hwagun remains to be not in my radar. I'm the type of viewer who does not care for a character no matter how seemingly interesting it is on paper if the actor/actress is just bad. Because how can a character be fleshed out well on the screen if the person cannot portray it properly? If it were a better actress then I'd probably be rooting for the second lead. Hence, I'm not feeling SLS for Hwagun here. I do wish for more on Gaeun's character, but what she is now is fine with me and I enjoy her moments with Prince Sun. I find myself focusing on the character growth more than the romance, so I'm okay with taking time in the romance department.
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22 chicann7
May 26, 2017 at 6:03 PM
I'm blown away by the intense acting of the three main leads Kim So Hyun, Yoo Seung Ho and INFINITE's L!
Admittedly, this drama took me by surprise. I'm not a big fan of historical series and don't really like watching dramas that feature a political storyline. So I was dreading this but now I've grown to love it since it has an intriguing plot plus YSH looks so handsome with that long hair - haha!
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23 Lynn
May 26, 2017 at 6:52 PM
The story has been super fast paced qwq
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24 Shan
May 26, 2017 at 7:06 PM
Actually I was just thinking... all of the love stories, save for Peasant LS, are love at first sight. I said I wasn't 100% sold on CP and GE's first love story in the last episode, but I don't understand HG's love for the CP even more. They met just twice with little interaction, but she is still willing to go against her grandfather multiple times just because he was good looking? I know she makes for an interesting character because of the conflict she has with CP versus Pyunsoohwe/family, but from the start isn't her reason for loving CP quite weak? She barely knows him. Peasant LS is the only one really believable in terms of his crush on GE given she taught him to read and write and they spent a long time together. Not that I'm totally against love at first sight, but it's why I'm slightly happier that CP and GE didnt give up everything for love 5 years ago. At least they had another goal to work too.
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Gwinna
May 26, 2017 at 7:30 PM
I agree. While I think all of them besides peasant LS fell in love a bit unbelievably fast, it harms HG's character the most simply because her entire character is built on the fact that she is in love with the CP. The CP and GE are focused more on fighting Pyunsoohwe/helping the villagers at the moment, but HG has not been given any kind of motivation or goal besides her love, so having that all-consuming love be based on one short meeting where there wasn't even any conversation really undermines her character. I mean, she apparently barely talks to her family anymore due to the fact that DM killed the CP. But there is nothing in their first meeting to make that kind of extreme passion believable. If they were going to put so little effort into the romance, I really wish they had given HG more layers to her character than just being madly in love.
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Lulla
May 26, 2017 at 8:22 PM
That's why, I never think that HG has more character development than GE *lol*. She is just basically madly in love and will protect CP, while GE, despite being in love, still has other desires and purposes, like to lead the people and to investigate her father's case. Still, I like both girls
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GG01
May 27, 2017 at 10:08 AM
She felt in love because the prince Lee Sun "in a way" saved her in the greenhouse. All the people who see him or tried to see him were killed. She didn't felt in love at first sight.
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Gwinna
May 27, 2017 at 11:58 AM
I didn't say she fell in love at first sight, I said she fell in love with him during their first meeting, which is true. Although I think that's splitting hairs honestly. Even if we say that he saved her life (although the queen did just as much to "save" her, and there's no way Dae-mok would have let her be executed), the extreme nature of her love that suddenly became the most important thing in her life after that encounter still seems disproportional to me.
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Shan
May 27, 2017 at 6:31 PM
I had said love at first sight, but then I reckon love at first meeting does sound more appropriate :) For both HG, CP and GE.
25 Jung Hana
May 26, 2017 at 8:06 PM
I really like Ga Eun as a character, it’s just the screentime doesnt do her justice. Her character is not that “weak”, just like CP, she has her own tragedy and people who are so precious to her that she tries to protect them with all she’s got. She almost has nothing – no power, no money, no helpful relationships, the people who are around her are all villagers and she had to lead them through their darkest night ever. Ga Eun remind me of Melanie Hamilton in “Gone with the wind” who is humble, kind and seems so weak and soft but when it comes to her precious ones she can do anything to fight for them. The writer and director didnt spend much time to let us see her development in those 5 years, but I can see Ga Eun became the true leader of them, they all believe in Ga Eun and when anything happens they come to her for help. She started from the bottom with nothing in her hands but she managed to get through and chose not to look back or being in grief of her father’s death. I love that calm yet powerful look in her eyes even when things get worse and out of her control. I think it’s not overcoming hardships the most difficult thing but keeping your own values when the reality is harsh and there’s no hope for anything like ‘justice’. Ga Eun has some characteristics similar to CP but she’s totally another type, though she has her own dream about an ideal Joseon, she has never been in an idealistic (or let’s just say unrealistic) world, she sees things as they are and that’s how she can make friend with peasant Seon, learn things from Woo Boo who is no longer a respected teacher and now lead the villagers who are being in despair.
The only thing that I can complain about Ga Eun is her screentime. She deserves more time to show how she helped the villagers in 5 years and how she struggled to get through it all. But the writers just doesnt do her justice. She put the burden on KSH and without her expressive eyes I wouldnt feel for Ga Eun that much.
I hope MBC will learn from that Cheese in the trap mess because right now I have seen many comments of Knetizen complaining about GaEun’s screentime and HwaGoon being pushed too much.
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mango
May 26, 2017 at 8:46 PM
I agree with you. Ga Eun is not weak, she is strong in her own way. If we had seen her leading the village in those five years, the viewers would not have the same reaction.
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kentang
May 27, 2017 at 12:04 AM
Im so agree with you, Gaeun definitely not weak nor damsel in distress or candy whatever the name is. She is strong. The only complaint is the lack of screen time.
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martha
May 27, 2017 at 2:46 AM
am so happpy about ur comment. it has given me life....she is a leader now i see that...like i hv said above a lot of korean relevant watcher love her so her character will make or break its success in korea and L also need more screen tym hope epi 13 n 14 will do justice to them
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26 mango
May 26, 2017 at 8:44 PM
Commandant Lee T__T The father and the son are loyal to their master and even in front of death they are dedicated to their duty. Chung Woon won't disappoint his father !
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27 Begin
May 26, 2017 at 9:34 PM
I don't really understand the criticism for GE as a character or her growth trajectory. She's your typical female candy lead like in every other drama. Yes, it's the first time KSH has ever played such a character so we are missing her usual fiestyness but I can understand why she chose it. K-netz love characters like this and every successful actress has played some version of this character. In fact if you ever want a Kim Eun Sook drama one should get used to playing candy.
KSH plays her character beautifully. It's just the screen time that is lacking a bit but I can see it increasing in the future. Also, I'm calling it that HG will die by epi 18. The character is being set up for an ultimate betrayal for love which I'm certain will end badly.
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Ana
May 26, 2017 at 11:00 PM
I think her fans are disappointed because in the original character descriptions made her sound like this interesting badass, interesting, atypical steely heroine from a warrior family dead set on avenging her father and there was all the promo with her carrying a sword or knife looking fierce and dangerous...
...but actually she's the typical 2D candy Mary-Sue love interest. She waves a sword around ineffectively on occasion but that's just preamble to being rescued by the various guys in her life. If they'd just sold her as the usual candy girl from the beginning I don't think anyone would have had any high expectations for her character and would be OK with her limited scope. The revenge plot seems to have fallen off the radar to various other plots post-timeskip and the whole thing can be cleared up so easily anyway it barely registers as an obstacle.
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May 26, 2017 at 11:19 PM
I think everyone is forgetting that this show has been written by not 1 but 2 rookie writers and director with no previous saeguk experience. If you look at those as starting points then this drama is doing a fantastic job overall.
I don't see why candy is presumed to be weak and uninteresting. Ga-eun is intelligent and sure of herself and is not afraid to stand up for what she believes in. That's already a LOT for a Joseon era woman. I mean did you forget it's basically a sexist and conservative society where women as village leaders itself is unheard of. Especially poor women! And since when does bad-ass only mean brandishing swords and getting into fights.
GE is quite amazing in and of herself and her character growth while understated is definitely still there. You have to remember that female lead characters in saeguk are not well written because no one believes in them. KSH's character is just a slightly improved version of GA in Hwarang and KYJ in Moonlight. Both needed constant saving by multiple characters. At least GE dares to stand up to people even if ineffectively.
I think if in a show ones only criticism is of the female lead not having enough screen time then its a good enough show. Nobody is talking about plot holes per se so I assume they don't notice them for the most part.
And lets all be honest, if the genders were reversed and 2nd male lead was getting all the screen time with female lead instead of the male lead people would be swooning not cribbing.
KSH has not for one minute been outshined in this drama by anyone else and her chemistry with YSH is fabulous! K-netz agree with me on that coz Seon-GaEun couple is beloved despite their limited screen time together.
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Lulla
May 27, 2017 at 12:03 AM
I've also never understand why should GE character is a typical candy Mary-Sue love interest ? She did need to be rescued from the soldiers, but she basically thought of a way to save the villagers from debts. She wasn't wait for help, but she thought about how to look for one and go get it by herself. That's a big difference. She didn't just stay quite doing nothing, but she is actively looking for a way around.
Perhaps some people just prefer to see a bubbly girl who climbs a forbidden wall to take a peek, or who's good at martial arts, so they never consider how spirited smart and independent GE is. Why should building a market place be considered lower than becoming a merchant leader ? GE built everything from scratch, while HG is already came from a wealthy background. I think people just dont like a typical serious gentle female lead, no mater how strong her character is.
Regarding the revenge, wasn't she going to the palace in the next episode, where she's going to investigate about her father's injustice, to prove what CP's late mom had told her? She already asked for a way to the palace 5 years ago, but she just got her answer now. Or perhaps the viewers expect her to bring another sword and come yelling at the palace door like what she did several episodes ago. If she did that again, then I think that she was just a girl with no character development, since she remained as emotional and careless as she was before.
Seriously, even the CP cried more than her ( not that I don't like the CP, but I just cant get it how come such a strong independent girl like GE is still considered 2D and damsel-in-distress )
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May 27, 2017 at 12:13 AM
Agreed, GE has more backbone than your typical saeguk candy so I really am confused by all the criticism.
I'm enjoying this show immensely with so many characters to watch out for! Also, KSH cross-dressing is so cute! And YSH looks so cool with that hair!
I'm hoping for more Lee Sun in the next episodes because I want to see how he contributed to the fight against Pyunsohwe since he's the only unknown variable at this point.
It's amazing how much plot this show has run through and I still don't know how it's going to move forward in the future! There is so much still left! Though at the pace this show is going I expect GE to find out CPs trust by epi 10 (19-20 in new format)
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May 27, 2017 at 12:15 AM
*CP's truth
Begin
May 26, 2017 at 11:05 PM
By 18 I mean the old 1 hour episode count not the new one.
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28 hanbin
May 26, 2017 at 11:47 PM
I'm screaming Cheese in the Trap while watching episodes 9-12.
I'm so close to dropping this drama. Not just because I feel cheated with the way Gaeun was written (we were promised to have an intelligent,revenge-seeking woman and we get a cookie-cutter type and I'm not happy with it. I love KSH but I cannot stand this injustice. I would have loved her to turn dark after her father's death and show some character development but she's still the same. She was kind before her father's death, she was already a leader before her father's death. 5 years and she's still the same while everyone else grew. She was promoted to be intelligent but so far, all her dialogues were nothing to be written about. Don't even get me started on her silly attempt to see the prince. If not for the King, she would have just been imprisoned for her actions.), but also because I can no longer follow all the things happening. Everything feels so rushed. The prince's momentary death didn't even register to me fully and he's alive again. The time-lapse felt too lazy to me and I've seen better time-skips executed. Before I connect to the emotions that the characters are feeling, another thing is happening and I forget about it.
Also, I'm still not sold on their romance. Yeah, we know that Prince Sun felt love-at-first-sight with Gaeun, but how about Gaeun herself? Their interactions before her father's death were so minimal and trivial and nothing that indicated her romantic feelings for him. So HOW did she come to like him?
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Kay Kim
May 27, 2017 at 12:05 AM
How did PSH ever come to like LMH in Heirs? Its the mystery of the universe we aren't meant to solve. Just indulge in their moony eyes for each other just like the K-netz have been. Plus KSH & YSH or so cute in BTS videos how could you not love them!
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hanbin
May 27, 2017 at 12:35 AM
Don't even mention Heirs. Everytime I hear that word, my eyes see red and I'm boiling with rage.
Yeah, maybe there are things that are not meant to be solved. Thank goodness I love YSH and KSH together and thank goodness Gaeun is nowhere near Cha Eunsang--a helpless, crying mess I wanted to send her a virtual slap everytime.
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Kay Kim
May 27, 2017 at 1:03 AM
Considering how that role literally made PSH's career and turned her into a hallyu star I say let's not write off candy type roles. They do wonders for one's career! Haha!
I can only hope that this role does atleast half of that for KSH! I like her approach to this type of character and I can see her trying to add layers to a character that basically has none. I'm quite satisfied at this point except maybe for the limited screen time but the preview for next week gives me hope that my concern will be addressed.
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Gwinna
May 27, 2017 at 1:02 PM
How have the other characters grown over 5 years? The CP is still righteous and wants to defeat the Pyunsoohwe, LS is still the terrified puppet of the Pyunsoohwe, HG is still obsessed with the CP. I don't think any of them have gone through any big changes during the time skip. And while I am also disappointed that the writers seem to have treated everything related to GE in a perfunctory manner, it is silly to suggest that GE would have to turn dark in order to experience character development, or that intelligence requires wit.
On the other hand, I agree that the romantic development has been weak and that certain events, particularly surrounding the time skip, have been too rushed.
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29 outofthisworld 不愧是我 🏍
May 27, 2017 at 2:18 AM
I wanted to love this show and I really did in the beginning. However, the flaws in writing and directing are getting too big to ignore. Now that I read that there are actually 2 new writers and an inexperienced PD on this, I think I understand better why things are the way they are.
Somehow I feel that saeguks aren't the best genre for rookie writers to start unless it's all fluff type of saeguk. Moon Lovers was also lackluster because of a new writer.
I found myself having problems understanding the actions of various characters, their motives and the main plot. Perhaps my issues or questions can be solved by more perceptive viewers. So, here's the list in no particular order:
1. If Dae Mok is all powerful to the extent that he can just march in and kill the King, why did he have to wait so long to install a puppet who gives less trouble? The fact that the King hid the Crown Prince behind a mask was the best weapon Dae Mok had. He could kill the real CP earlier and have endless substitutes(under his control) because no one knew how the real Crown Prince looked.
2. Does the Queen have a plan? This episode gave me hope although I wasn't sure if she was for the real Crown Prince or her own agenda. However, my opinion changed in the next episode.
3. Why did Pyunsoonwe chase GE's village out to the barren land? Isn't it in their interest to exploit these poor souls so that they spend their whole lives working to pay Pyunsoonwe? By sending them to a barren land where they are very likely to die, wouldn't it mean one less village for Pyunsoonwe to collect money from? I laughed so hard when the villagers dug a well and they drank free water!
4. Is the poison necessary? Related to question one, why does Dae Mok need to use this to control the previous King or current Lee Sun? It looks like he just need to kill them because they are no repercussions. I don't remember anyone asking how the King died a violent death. They were either Pyunsoonwe's people or too afraid to speak.
This point brings me to another drama - Rebel where King Yeonsangun terrorized his court and people but you never got a feeling that he was omnipotent.
5. Why didn't Woo Bo explain to Ga Eun about her father's death. He knew the plot, the real culprit and even the real Crown Prince. Didn't he hear of how GE nearly got herself killed in pursuit of revenge?
I have more questions for next episode.
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Shan
May 27, 2017 at 3:14 AM
Just sharing my thoughts on some!
1. I think Daemok didn't do anything beforehand because he thought the CP was weak/depressed/easy to control which is what his insiders had been feeding him. He had just been waiting to bring CP into Pyunsoohwe and was in no hurry since the current King was already his puppet. Its only when the King sent the fake prince that he got angry for them still trying to defy him and got rid of the King + put the fake prince behind the mask.
3. The well + free water part was a little strange, but I thought about it, and it was in line with Daemok's plans to make people borrow money from the Water Bureau. It's a little contrived, but driving them out to barren land means they needed to find another way to survive and borrowing money to rebuild was one.
4. The poison was so he could control the King. I reckon the fact that he controls the King puts myself of his Pyunsoohwe members in check too, because of fear of Daemok.
2 and 5 - I have no answer. I feel like Woo Bo likes his students to learn for themselves and rather than just give them the answers so GE will have to find out herself over time why her father died. The Queen well, all guesses are in the air for which side she's on.
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outofthisworld 不愧是我 🏍
May 27, 2017 at 9:24 AM
Thanks for answering my questions.
1. It's just that the ease and impunity with which Dae Mok goes about doing everything make me wonder why he bother with any trouble at all, LOL. He had been waiting quite impatiently for the King to send CP.
3. Maybe they like to try their luck? Seriously, the villagers would have died out there if not for Ga Eun's bright idea. If you are a loan shark, you don't just kill your debtors unless you want to harvest their organs. I believe that wasn't the option in Joseon. Besides, who lends more money to people who are bad credit risk.
4. I would actually like to see some kind of weakness in the Pyunsoonwe's factions. To date, they are just boring. The only one capable of challenging Dae Mok is Hwa Goon. If this character is played by a stronger actress, I might buy that she's an actual threat. The writing isn't helping either. Every time I see her love struck face, I can't take her seriously.
2. I have my answer in the next episode and will discuss in the next recap.
5. Hmmm...I don't think highly of this esteemed teacher if he likes to teach his students by taking a risk on their lives. This is one of those drama situations where you ask "Why don't they just talk?" It's a plot convenience.
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Lulla
May 27, 2017 at 3:15 AM
I think this show has a lot of plot holes *lol*. Still, I enjoy it :D , since I'm not looking for too serious drama to watch.
1. Previously, the King obeyed him. Later, his betrayal was untolarable so DM had to kill him. After all, it's easier to maintain the King (that had already sworn to be loyal) than a puppet one. A puppet one will obey more, but he has to be trained and such, in order to be believable.
2. I'm waiting for the Queen myself. I like her, and I hope she has a plan
3. Didnt they say that they chase the villagers out because they didnt pay for tax or something? I guess they were going to use the land for something more profitable. Pyunsohwee couldnt expect to collect money from them, since they woulnt have a lot of money
4. The poison is needed to control people so that they wouldnt rebel. I also wonder why people didnt question the King's and CP's mom's death. I assume that DM had his men to clean the area and sent officials (his underlings) to give false death news to the Queen/the rest of the officials, so that the deaths seemed to be natural. Which means, DM should have his men surrounded the King's place at the time of his death. Still, I think this plot is indeed weak. The Queen should investigate this, since how come the King died in the same night as CP's mom?
5. You're right *lol*. In this case, I assume that WB doesnt know that GE was going to take revenge to the CP. Regarding why he didnt tell anyone about the real CP, it should be becoz "less people know is better".
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outofthisworld 不愧是我 🏍
May 27, 2017 at 9:44 AM
Serious drama or fluff, plot holes still mar my enjoyment. I don't nitpick until the plot holes become so much that they glare at me.
1. That's the thing! I don't think Dae Mok bothers about people believing him. It would be nice if they show that Dae Mok knows there's a limit to how much he can oppress people beyond which he would spark a rebellion or coup. However, we are to believe everyone alive in the palace is controlled by Pyunsoonwe except for Chief Commander and his son. Otherwise, how do we explain that no one turned up to help the King?
3. They could have just use the reason you cited. It wouldn't take more than a line or two. Instead, it appears to be contrived because Trader Ga Eun needs to meet Chief Peddler Sun.
4. Did I miss the part where they use poison on people at large? The Queen's part is confusing. At one stage, I thought she was behind the poisoning of the Consort and in cahoots with DM to get rid of the King.
5. I can actually buy that GE may not believe the dying Consort's words about CP's innocence. However, I think she would listen to Woo Bo who was her teacher. Why would telling GE endanger CP? Dae Mok the number one enemy has already seen CP's face. If anything, shouldn't CP be lying in low profile instead of being the famous Chief Peddler? Maybe they would have Dae Mok not recognizing him because of the time skip and change in hairstyle. They wouldn't go there, would they?
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Lulla
May 27, 2017 at 1:48 PM
1 and 3. The problem with Ruler is they didnt bother to take time to explain the details, so it left the viewers wondering about how things can happen. I agree with someone here saying that the story should be covered in 40-50 episodes, but they crammed it into. So it's kinda hard to swallow for people who are looking for a serious story, as well as people who are looking for an idolish-fluffy one(because it's not a fluffy drama)
4. No, you didnt miss it. Once again, I was assuming that DM used the poison at large, bcoz the drama introduced the poison as an opening for the story in the beginning. The drama was opened with some kind or farmers of the flowers that were used to create poison. If they didnt use that for mass purpose, then they wouldnt need that many people to farm the flowers. Of course, there's still a possibility that they only used that for the King. We really need a background story of DM, so that we understand why there're a lot of people joining his organization.
Regarding the Queen, she should be on the opposite side of DM. When an official (DM's underling) and fake CP came to her, she was suspicious that the CP was a fake. She looked angry but she didnt say anything. It seemed that she knew that she couldnt say it outloud, which meant that she knew that the King's death was unnatural as well. But why did she choose to accept everything? It should be bcoz she also realized the powerful influence of DM. So, I assume again that the Queen is the last powerful party that DM cant touch. On the other hand, the Queen herself realizes that DM is too powerful for her party, so she chooses to get along with everything.
We need more story on the Queen to know what really happen.
5. The secret about CP's face was made so big here, to the extend that anyone who saw his face must die. That should be planted in the minds of everyone in the country. WB found out about his secret by himself, then became a help for CP in a life threatening situation. So, I think it's natural if he also doesnt want to talk much about this 'big secret' to anyone. Plus, the classic reason : if she knew, then she would want to help CP and it would put her in danger as well. On the other hand, I didnt see GE consulting him either after her Dad died, so I assume that there hasnt been any important interactions between them that made WB thought that he should reveal CP's identity to her.
Regarding CP became a head of peddler, I think they will go to DM not recognizing him bcoz of the long time and hair style *lol*. Personally, I'm thinking that CP should try to contact LS in the palace about his whereabout, but perhaps he has never thought about it *I mean, if GE can finally enter the palace, then why cant he???*. The drama has been making a situation where DM has a very big influence in the palace, so that the CP has 0 chance to claim back his place if he just go back. Sooo, with this kinda setup, the CP has to have powerful backup first...
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Lulla
May 27, 2017 at 1:59 PM
I agree with someone here saying that the story should be covered in 40-50 episodes, but they crammed it into. -> into 20 episodes..sorry
30 Anything Chewy
May 27, 2017 at 2:20 AM
I really liked the performance by crown prince's bodyguard, Chung Woo as well... especially the part when he dug up the crown prince's body and cried in grief, thinking that the crown prince was dead... and also in the earlier episode when he stood in the crown prince's place to behead Ga-eun's dad... i was touched by his acting behind the mask...
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Christina
May 27, 2017 at 6:04 AM
Yes, Chung Woo and CP previously were in the same drama - Remember - Son's war! Chung Woo however was a friend of Nam Goong Min. Noticed him there....
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Kay Kim
May 27, 2017 at 6:29 AM
Yes I remember him form that drama as well. He is also the sunbae from Age of Youth! The reversal is so fun to watch when I remember their last interactions!
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31 TheImprintOnMyNose
May 27, 2017 at 2:50 AM
If you mean 'capitalizing on l's unique position' by turning on the dark side in the latter part or second half of the show, then I'm sold already. That'd be an awesome twist and L's actually nailing his role atm!
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Solo
May 28, 2017 at 1:12 AM
I would love to know what L turning to the dark side would look like! His is another character that has tremendous potential but largely remains unexplored. His tragic love for GE is also something I would love to see. They even have an OST for it after all!
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32 aniont
May 27, 2017 at 6:43 AM
I think that the writers focus the story way too much on Prince Sun ... We know that he's the king-to-be, and the hero of the story, and I agree that Yoo Seung Ho carries the show acting-wise, but the way they handle the others characters is terrible. I think that they shouldn't have included Hwa Goon's character, they should have focused more on Prince Sun, Peasant Sun and Ga Eun's trio. It's as if they included Hwa Goon's character just to add a romantic interest to the hero, because hey, guess he couldn't just love Ga Eun while she's also loved by someone else. All the relationships don't feel genuine to me.
I'm utterly gutted by how little screen time Kim So Hyun has, not only because she's the freaking lead female, but also because like many others I started the show because of her and know what she's capable of. It's like a clickbait ! You don't choose Kim So Hyun as your lead female and treat her like this. Ugh.
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cutie
May 28, 2017 at 10:37 AM
It's okay that he's ignoring her because of the letter she left behind, i would have questioned him if he's not ignoring her for some time. Clearly he's still in love and they'll get back later.
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33 kayyis
May 27, 2017 at 7:46 AM
Ruler has veeerrryyyy fast paced storyline. I think this drama actually had 40-50 episodes (1 hour for 1 episode) that shortened to 20 episodes. When I start to symphatized with one event, another event comes that makes me hard to feel deeply connected with the story. So far, Yoo Seung Ho is the savior, the one that makes me connect to the story. but this is only epi 6, I dont know if he can hard carrying this until 20 episodes. I worry about this.
what bothers me more is Yoon So Hee acting. Why on earth she always looks like coquettish girl who wants to jump on Sun everytime they meet when she is now a leader in her group? I can tolerate it when she was younger and she doesnt know about political things, but this time...ughhh.. I really dont like her interpretatiton of HG. She doesnt suit for layered role like HG.
As for KSH, I really enjoying her character here. Because this is male centric drama, I expected from before that she won't had that much highlight and the verrryyy fast paced storyline make it worst. but I hope she will shines in the next episodes.
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Lulla
May 27, 2017 at 12:36 PM
Why on earth she always looks like coquett"ish girl who wants to jump on Sun everytime they meet when she is now a leader in her group? " -> I feel the same way *LOLOL*. It's as if she is gonna jump at him everytime they are near. If I was CP, then I would be affraid to be near her *LOLOLOL* .
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34 aniont
May 27, 2017 at 10:35 AM
I hope this doesn't hurt Kim So Hyun's career, she is so talented ! What I love about her is that she's able to pull off good strong-willed characters but also villains. From my experience that's really rare in the korean drama world, where most popular actresses are stuck playing the innocent, cutesy or bubbly heroine ... And that's why I'm so upset seeing her playing that role now x_x This role is not fit for her ! I'm sorry but she would have slayed Hwa Goon's role ... I hope the writers make some improvement with her character in the next episodes !
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Kay Kim
May 27, 2017 at 12:02 PM
Yes but Candy characters are the true test of an actresses potential. How to add depth to character that has none and make us root for her. Its what Gong Hyo Jin and Jang Nara excel at playing and its what made their careers. KSH can't avoid characters like this for the rest of her life you know. Especially since dramaland is populated with them.
I remember KSH once said something to this effect, that she doesn't even get offered roles like this so I guess she took it up as a challenge. Even then I find her character quite fiesty and stubborn and largely lacking in aegyo which thank goodness!
I guess KSH drama's tend to be centered around her so we are not used to a drama that doesn't focus on her 90% of the time. Heck it doesn't even focus on her 40% of the time! But I understand her decision to try playing a somewhat typical character in a drama with so many unreliable elements.
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aniont
May 27, 2017 at 2:36 PM
Yeah but how can anyone work with so little screen time, AND going up against a female counterpart who's better written (or, at least, much more complex and thus interesting to watch) ? Even Kim So Hyun can't do so much with what she's given, I just watched Page Turner again, and it is really a waste of her talent here. It makes me angry thinking about people who start to prefer Hwa Goon's character, not because of Yoon Soo Hee's marvelous acting, and not because of Kim So Hyun's bad acting but because of the uneven screen time.
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Kay Kim
May 28, 2017 at 1:09 AM
I think our concerns about the uneven screen time will be addressed soon enough. Maybe we should hold out till the upcoming episodes to see how it pans out. I remember this directors previous drama Soulmate also had a tremendous amount of screen time given to the 2nd female lead but it all eventually evened out. Maybe its just his style of directing.
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Lulla
May 27, 2017 at 12:32 PM
A great actress should not be limited to one typical role. There are roles that can make someone popular, but there are also roles that are meant to test someone's acting ability, in order to br a better actress in the future. KSH (or her agent) had accepted this role, so they must have studied it before hand. They should have known what kind of drama it was and what kind of role that she was gonna play.
In my personal opinion, why should this damage her career? She is doing it well, and I know that there are a lot of people enjoying her performance too.
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aniont
May 27, 2017 at 2:43 PM
I don't know if she signed up for the "candy" type role though. Do the actors and actresses have access to the whole detailed scenario before accepting it ?
We were told that it would be the story of Ga Eun's revenge against the crown prince and that plot went out of the window, so maybe Kim So Hyun accepted the role thinking that she would play a good innocent girl who becomes bitter and revengeful after the loss of her father, which seems like a great role to play, on par with the conflicted roles she has already played in her previous dramas. Maybe she wouldn't have accepted the role if she knew it would turn out this way, having so little screen time, having no character development and people prefering the second lead over her x_x
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35 phochu
May 27, 2017 at 12:58 PM
This drama is honestly not as bad as people say. A bit too heavy on the emotions, but it's well done enough.
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36 wackycashew
May 27, 2017 at 1:12 PM
Thanks for the recap, lovepark!
Such an emotional pair of episodes. The prince and CW both lost their father on the same day. =( At least Gon seems to be heeding HG's orders to help guard Sun. Really felt for Lee Sun who has no choice but to be the fake king as he thought the prince had died.
Thank goodness CW dug the prince back out and escorted him to safety at WB's home.
Very intrigued by the queen going up against Pyunsoohwe. Not too sure what she wants to accomplish since I thought she was part of the plot to take down the now deceased king and consort. I wonder if she is hoping the new king can become strong enough during her time as queen regent to learn to battle against Pyunsoohwe. Or she just wants to hang on to power a little longer, knowing that no one is going to have the gall to fight against Pyunsoohwe if she doesn't intercede.
I love the resilience of the small community of people who are so willing to follow GE's leadership and place their faith in her.
I like WB's advice to Sun. It's what keeps him from running wild right now and only focusing on revenge. The prince needs a lot of grooming and I'm sure WB will play a pivotal role. The network of peddlers will help immensely when the time comes to take down DM.
The promotion of Sun from burden to maknae is so so cute. I'm glad to see the prince still using his wits as he encounters situations and he is able to convince others to support his views. Such natural leadership and he's getting along quite well with other peddlers already.
The time jump feels natural and it's great to see the flourishing market. But Pyunsoohwe is already up to no good and looks like they're after the villagers again. I'm curious whether Lee Sun has gained any insight during the past five years as the puppet king to strengthen his political knowledge and wings. As for our main couple meeting up again, it was bound to happen sooner or later. I wonder how they will react to each other.
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37 Vanptc
May 27, 2017 at 9:55 PM
I am in love with this show. It is really fast paced and knows how to keep me on edge every single episode. The cinematography and ost are surprisingly good, too.
Now all the setting has been done by episode 10 (ep 5 in former concept i believe), and we are about to head to the mAin story. I have already watched ep11-12, and i noticed that in these episodes, in contrast to Crown Prince Lee Sun and Hwa Gun, Ga Eun and Peasant Lee Sun were not given enough screen time to show their character development. But I can't blame the writer because it is impossible to describe all the development of our four leads in just 60minutes. I guess that the writers chose to describe CP and HG first, then GE and LS later on from ep 13-14.
I find this show intriguing and quite different from so many sageuks out there, thanks to tragic yet interesting plot, and acting wise of all the cast, especially Yoo Seung Ho and Heo Jun Ho. L is not bad at all, and even Yoon So Hee is good enough to watch. I don't find her as annoying as some people said at all.
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Koala
May 28, 2017 at 1:06 AM
I agree. There has been a lot of set up till now and the whole point has been to lay out how weak our 3 main leads are and how they must slowly get stronger to fight the big bad. If we are talking about character development then I think even Daemok has been a largely 1D character but I'm sure there's more to him than what we have seen till now. This show really is taking its time unveiling all its characters and their layers.
Epi 13-14 (7) seems to be more focused on GE & LS based on the promo so I'm looking forward to knowing what their reunion will be like. I'm also looking forward to see if HG will stay on CP's side once she realises she can never have his heart. I feel she'll either betray him or die trying to save him which is probably why they needed to give her sufficient screen time before hand so that the viewers can sympathize with her.
There is still so much that hasn't happened! I'm curious as to how they'll pace all the revelations as well! Its getting more interesting!
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38 yoobitna
May 28, 2017 at 7:20 AM
Why does the chief so hatin on Ga Eun. andddd I hate the villagers that shout out about how the Boss aka Prince Sun helped them. It's like Ahjusshi pls don't tell everyone and create more dangerous situation. Everyone knows Yangshucheong is evil. can u not. ugh
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39 cutie
May 28, 2017 at 10:23 AM
I don't think ga eun would still want revenge on cp after what the prince's mother told her, right now her mission is to find out why her father had to die.
Un baised, ga eun definetly has a lot of character development in the past five years, she's definetly a strong character, being strong does not mean you have to take your sword to fight or beat up bigger people with her fist which was what ksh's fans were expecting.
The problem is with her storyline it's boring in comparison to yoo so hee's character, but not 100% right because ga eun's character would become more and more interesting as the story moves
On. It's no weak plot or lazy writing as majority are pointing out, i had to skip some comments because the complaints were too much..
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40 Aditi
June 21, 2017 at 4:11 AM
I just love this drama
I like kim so Hyun and kim myung soo
I am a fan of k-dramas
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