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Rebel: Thief Who Stole the People: Episode 30 (Final)

by tineybeanie

Now that it’s at an end, it’s so hard to let go. I laughed at the comedic antics of the original Amogae Avengers, cried along with the heart-wrenching decisions made by Nok-soo and Ga-ryung, and blazed with fury and simultaneous pity because Kim Ji-suk’s portrayal of Yeonsangun was that fantastic. This hour was all about completing story arcs, and it was mightily satisfying to see that everyone got their just deserts. The drama wasn’t perfect by any means, but there were definitely memorable gems here and there, and I loved that it kept the people at the forefront, especially toward the end. And to that end, rather than being a drama where a lone rebel hero saves all, it became one where the people became empowered to save themselves.

 
FINAL EPISODE RECAP

Minister Park marches into Yeonsangun’s entertainment hall and demands the royal seal. He doesn’t flinch when the king rages at him and instead remains calm and resolute with an army of soldiers behind them. Yeonsangun is shocked and outraged at the impudence of these actions.

It doesn’t hit home for him that he’s being overthrown in a coup until Nok-soo gently adjusts his clothing and tells him that unlike his actions while he was on the throne, when he steps down, he should be dignified like a king. Her eyes water as she says that she will also die, since she’s the king’s woman. Then, she retreats from the dais and makes a full and formal bow to him, crying sorrowfully all the while.

Wolhamae, Eunuch Kim, and Yeonsangun all watch with unshed tears in their eyes as she’s forced away by Minister Park’s goons. As she passes him, she spits in the his face, and in that moment, the official pulls out his sword to behead her.

But Yeonsangun stops him with a yell, and Minister Park defers in respect to the king’s last commands. Yeonsangun cries after her as she’s dragged out, calling her his Nok-soo, and Eunuch Kim has to hold him back from following her.

The following morning, Eunuch Kim notifies Yeonsangun that his half-brother, Grand Prince Jinseong, has been confirmed as the next king. Then, gesturing to the commoner’s clothing in front of him, the faithful eunuch tells his master that he must now change out of his kingly robes and leave his royal trappings behind.

In a daze, Yeonsangun stumbles out of his chambers in commoner’s clothing, and guards come to take him away. When he realizes that Eunuch Kim will not be following him as part of his retinue, he desperately pleads with him, the only real father figure he’s had in life, to stay. However, the eunuch tells the deposed king that he can’t accompany and serve him any longer.

Nok-soo has also been divested of her extravagant adornments and attire, and she is dragged away to an unknown location. But at that location stands Gil-dong, and she realizes that he’s saved her from certain death. He tells her that he’ll repay his life’s debt by saving hers this time.

She replies to her former lover that while she may have saved his life when he was in Yeonsangun’s prison, he saved her soul long ago by telling her she was an artist and not a whore. Smiling through her tears, she tells him that it was her choice to leave him for the king, and that she will also choose how she wants to die. She turns away from him, and his expression is bittersweet as he sees her leave for the last time.

People in the streets point fingers at Nok-soo for being the wicked king’s woman who bewitched him into committing more evil acts. Ignoring their mockery, she begins singing a song bemoaning the futility and meaninglessness of her life and her sorrow at her imminent death.

But she can ignore them no longer when the people begin throwing rocks at her. She doesn’t flinch or shy away from their blows and just stands, accepting their hatred.

Other citizens cheer the coming of a new age as they jeer the overthrown king being exiled from the capital. However, there’s one loyalist who comes forward and bows at Yeonsangun’s feet. He deplores the crowd for dethroning the king, declaring that this means the end of all social order. Seeing this one supporter, Yeonsangun commends him for his loyalty and says that he is a true citizen.

From a raised platform, Gil-dong watches Yeonsangun’s disgraced procession from afar. Yeonsangun raises his head, and their eyes meet for a long moment. Internally, the overthrown tyrant thinks that Gil-dong is taking joy in this victory over him and is gloating over his fallen state. However, Gil-dong is pities him and thinks that this is a sad day, thinking it more sorrowful than anything that a man born with such great potential like Yeonsangun had to be taken down.

On his way out of Hanyang, the former king notices a mound of rocks with a pair of red flower shoes displaced on it. Someone tells him that the mound is all that’s left of Nok-soo after the mob stoned her to death. Mourning the death of his most faithful concubine, Yeonsangun cries again and again for his dear Nok-soo, never tearing his eyes away from the human-size mound of rocks that mark the site of her death and burial ground.

Meanwhile at the palace, Eunuch Kim prepares to commit suicide by meticulously checking the rope with which he plans to hang himself. He finally puts himself on the ledge and steps off to do the deed when suddenly, an arrow shoots toward him and severs the rope.

It’s Gil-dong and Yonggae, the latter of which gives Gil-dong an awed thumbs-up for his perfect aim. Gil-dong has come to offer the eunuch a second chance: He tells Eunuch Kim that if he wants to truly repent for his sin of coddling Yeonsangun, he should not do it in death, but in life.

Jeong-hak is also at the palace and seems to be optimistic about his prospects after the regime change. He thinks that because he helped the rebel forces at a critical moment, he’ll be able to regain his previous status as a nobleman, and he’ll have the opportunity to become an officer and rise in the ranks. However, Scholar Song soon disabuses him of that notion.

Clucking his tongue, the scholar pities his student for his naivety and tells him that he may never achieve a higher status again in this government. The reason is because it was Jeong-hak’s own mother who gave the deposed queen’s letter to Yeonsangun that resulted in the Second Literati purge. As a result, he’s been automatically checked off as a Yeonsangun loyalist and will only be seen as a danger to the new regime, despite any deeds he may do to prove his loyalty.

In exile, Yeonsangun suffers from another nightmare and wakes to see Gil-dong’s formidable figure hovering over him. The rebel tells the dethroned king that there’s no one to support him now — all his “loyal” followers have betrayed him, and the people have lost faith. Swiftly shifting back and forth between fear and fury, Yeonsangun grabs his collar and rages that if it weren’t for Gil-dong, his rule by violence would have succeeded.

Gil-dong replies that Yeonsangun’s way of ruling wasn’t politics, but rather, it wass the empty blustering of a fearful coward. Then he gives the king his official sentence: Yeonsangun is guilty of treason for not accepting or even realizing that there was something that should be respected above the king (referring to the trust of the people).

After he leaves, Yeonsangun goes into a frenzy writing and rewriting the same royal command for another purge to destroy anyone who doesn’t follow the established social order. Then, all of a sudden, he collapses in the midst of all his mad scribblings and coughs up blood, indicating his death (which historically occurred a couple weeks after his exile). In his dying thoughts, he remembers Gil-dong’s last words about his sins against the people.

The rebels return to Hyangjumok with news of victory at Hanyang, and the people rejoice to learn that they are no longer a target of the government. In a speech, Gil-hyun tells them that this is a collective win that was only possible because they rose up together. Cue welcoming warm embraces all around between the returning rebels and their loved ones.

In a quiet moment alone, Ga-ryung tells Gil-dong that she saw him tied up on a post in front of the palace all beaten and bruised before he was imprisoned in Yeonsangun’s dungeons. She thought that he was dead, she elaborates, and she carries those traumatic memories with her. She says that although the truth is painful, she wants to tell their child everything.

At the mention of a child between them, Gil-dong’s eyes grow wide. He looks at Ga-ryung’s belly, and she nods a happy yes, confirming that she’s pregnant. He’s ecstatic and hugs her, filled with pride and joy.

It seems that Ok-ran has been bringing Mori food to his little mountain shack while he recovers from his wounds from the Battle of Hyangjumok, because he can barely conceal a smile when she arrives with a basket. She tells him about the rebels’ victory, Ga-ryung coming back to normal health, and the probability that the rebels will leave Hyangjumok soon. She urges him to join them, but he refuses, which gets her in a huff.

Then, behind Ok-ran, Eorini appears with a displeased expression on her face. She hasn’t lost her spunk, showing clearly that she doesn’t like that her friend is cavorting with the enemy. She’s about to drag Ok-ran away from Mori, when suddenly, masked assassins attack them looking for the traitor Geo-in (aka Eorini). A flying dagger lands in Ok-ran’s chest while Mori fights them off, even in his weakened state.

Despite how much he detests having Gil-dong know that he’s still orbiting within the rebels’ sphere of influence, Mori disregards all that in order to save Ok-ran’s life. Without hesitation, he piggybacks her all the way back to the Hyangjumok village, with Eorini following one step behind. Once they arrive and get help for Ok-ran, Mori waits until she regains consciousness.

The wounds isn’t too deep, but he still stays out of concern for her. He tries to make a swift exit as soon as she wakes up, but as Ok-ran explains to Gil-dong how Mori saved them on the mountainside, she refers to the tsundere Mighty Child as “Orabeoni.” And Mori, acting in typical shy Mori fashion, shows his appreciation for her brotherly affection by slamming the door open and leaving after saying: “Who are you calling ‘Orabeoni?'”

Ga-ryung follows him outside, and she and Gil-dong invite him to stay for dinner. The subsequent scene is comical as all the Hong brothers gather to watch Mori eat. After being almost always ignored and relegated to the background, it looks like being the sole focus of all seven Hong brothers’ attention makes him uncomfortable.

Keutsae breaks the ice by encouraging him to eat, grabbing meat from Mori’s plate and taking a bite to show that it’s not poisoned. Then the atmosphere relaxes a bit until Mori lets Gil-dong know that the mountain assassins were looking for the traitor Geo-in. Eorini pales with fear at the mention, and Gil-dong realizes that Scholar song is still up to his old tricks. Only now, he’s going to do something about it.

After dinner, Gil-dong proposes to Mori that he join their brotherhood, and at first, he refuses by saying that he never wanted to become a part of Gil-dong’s band. But Gil-dong pushes further and soothes Mori’s wounds with empathy, saying that his father trying to murder him and Heotaehak’s betrayal weren’t his fault. Then, all the brothers come out in support, which makes Mori eventually acquiesce.

The Hong band says their goodbyes to the Hyangjumok people, who don’t want them to leave. However, the Hong brothers explain that if they stay any longer, the village will be targeted again by political forces. When the villagers ask will happen if they miss their Hong Hero, Gil-dong promises that they will see each other again.

Scholar Song, despite his great show of loyalty to Yeonsangun while he was in power, doesn’t seem to have spared the deposed ruler much thought after the coup and is busy establishing his insidious hold on the next regime. He even shows Minister Park his personal academy of students who are being educated in the ways of the “natural” social order.

Scholar Song tells Minister Park not to worry about the king, and that he’ll use his students to help the minister in becoming the man behind the king. Inside, Minister Park knows that he’s being used: “Ah, so you [Scholar Song] will be the true power behind me, the person behind the king.”

After the Hong clan leaves Hyangjumok, they return to their cave hideout, where they’re given a warm greeting by the people. Mori takes a look around the Hong clan’s home for the first time.

At the strategic planning meeting, Gil-hyun says that they need to destroy Scholar Song once and for all, and Gil-dong agrees. He turns to Mori and asks whether he’ll be willing to join them. In a momentous gesture, Mori nods yes, not just to this mission, but to everything Gil-dong has offered him: friends, family, and the warmth he so craved while he was growing up.

They infiltrate the deep mountains to rescue the rest of the Geo-in from the Sugwidan prisons, and when masked guards show up to fight them, Mori leads the charge.

Gil-dong and Gil-hyun work on destroying Scholar Song on another front: They sit and have drinks with Minister Park in order to warn him against the scholar. They tell him that he could end up becoming an arrow-filled porcupine like Choongwongoon, who was also Scholar Song’s political puppet before him.

Minister Park already had misgivings about Scholar Song, but this solidifies his need to sever ties with him, and he immediately betrays him. He shows up at the estate of an unsuspecting Scholar Song with a troop of soldiers behind him, reminiscent of when he staged the coup against Yeonsangun.

When Scholar Song asks what he’s doing and why he isn’t pursuing the Hong bandits, Minister Park arrests him for carrying out unlawful vigilante justice through his secret Sugwidan organization. He orders his soldiers to burn all of Scholar Song’s jade talismans, the tokens of the Sugwidan, as well as all the copies of the Heng-rok. Scholar Song cries as he sees his legacy burn in front of his eyes.

Gil-dong and Minister Park have their last meeting in a forest, and the wily minister tries to determine where Gil-dong’s hideout is by asking him. But Gil-dong just laughs and says that he’ll be watching over Minister Park. Of course, when Gil-dong leaves, the minister dispatches his soldiers to follow the rebel back to his headquarters.

The rebels return to their cave hideout, successful in their mission to rescue the Sugwidan prisoners. However, when Ga-ryung doesn’t immediately see her husband come in, the Hong brothers decide to tease her by sounding uncertain about Gil-dong’s fate, and she immediately starts crying again.

Just then, Gil-dong appears in the entranceway waving his arms in huge motions to greet her, and her tears turn into tears of joy as he picks her up in a bridal carry. Together, the reunited clan revels and rejoices in their victory.

Jeong-hak has left the palace and has become a house slave. He is punished by the household madam, but Mistress Jo steps in to defend her son and takes the blows meant for him whilst saying that Jeong-hak doesn’t deserve this type of treatment.

Then she begins coughing blood, and the household madam, fearing an infectious illness, orders her other servants to throw Mistress Jo out. Against Jeong-hak’s protestations, she tells them to leave Mistress Jo for dead on the outskirts of town where all the sick and dying are unceremoniously dumped.

Jeong-hak cradles his mother, who reminisces about her life while in the final throes of death. Apparently, Mistress Jo once had dreams too: She wanted to travel on a ferry, but she could not because she was wed at the age of fifteen, and as a woman, she was not supposed to leave the house. She adds that her sole goal in life became all about making her son a high-ranking royal official, but she failed in doing so. Her eyes turn glassy then, and Jeong-hak cries as he realizes that his mother has passed on.

Things come full circle as Jeong-hak brings a sickle to the household mistress’s chambers to avenge his mother’s death in a deja vu moment that reminds us of Amogae’s killing of Master Jo. He attempts to cut her throat, but he’s stopped by other servants before he can.

He is sent to rot in jail for the attempted murder of his master, and Gil-dong visits him in his cell. The former slave asks his former master whether he understands now that slaves are people too, and although Jeong-hak has only lived a couple months as one, he’s already tasted a bit of the hell that comes from being treated as less than human.

However, Gil-dong says that his father Amogae and his father before him lived their entire lives like that. Gil-dong expounds on this, and in doing so, he makes Jeong-hak realize that whether people are born into privilege or become slaves, they both experience pain the same way.

In exile, Scholar Song has a half-burnt remnant of the Heng-rok by his side while he has fanatical dreams, in which he thinks that he can repeat his rise to success like he did before. Gil-hyun arrives to see his former mentor daydreaming and lets him know that the people who are now in power are scholar Kim Jongjik’s students.

Because those students were persecuted by Yeonsangun at the suggestion of Scholar Song, he doesn’t think Scholar Song will be able to rise in power ever again. Then, he asks if Scholar Song is still looking for desperate people, reminding him of the circumstances of their first meeting.

Gil-hyun had been the desperate one looking for a way to achieve his dreams, and Scholar Song had used his naive student’s desire to his own ends and inculcated an ideology of inequality in him. He realizes now that Scholar Song is a master manipulator who is only after his own gain, and one who uses the weaknesses of others to achieve his own purposes.

Knowing this as well as Scholar Song’s modus operandi, Gil-hyun says to him: “The desperate do not follow those who have nothing [referring to Scholar Song’s state now].” And in despair, the scholar eventually hangs himself.

Years later, Ga-ryung and Gil-dong live an ordinary married life, still very much in love. At night, she tells the village children the tale of the Hong Hero while cradling their baby in her arms.

The children ask about the famous rebel, and she laughs at their presuppositions and tells them — while looking at her husband — that the Hong Hero is very handsome. But moments after starting her tale, all the kids fall fast asleep, and Gil-dong teases that she’s still the best cure for insomnia in energetic little children.

Deeper into the night, they enjoy some sweet married couple time together, and she asks when he first started seeing her as a woman and not just as a pesky little sister. Feigning ignorance, he tells her he doesn’t remember, which makes her a bit irritated.

Grabbing her hand, he tells her that he does remember the point when she came into his heart: it was when she clutched him in her half-dreaming state the time they slept next to each other. He tells her that he loves her before pulling her in for a long, romantic kiss.

Gil-dong and Mori have an arm-wrestling competition between them; it’s the battle of the two Mighty Children. Ilchung, ever the gambling monk, takes bets while Segul provides insider tips and commentary on the match they’re about to witness.

He says that Gil-dong has been using his strength at night to make a third child, so it’s a better bet to put money on Mori, who is apparently single and alone, and thus not using his strength for any purpose. Upon hearing this, the others all switch their bets to Mori. Eorini and Ok-ran root for their respective brothers, which brings a huge smile to both Gil-dong and Mori’s faces.

However, as soon as they hear whispers of a rumor from the villagers that Minister Park is taking bribes and using his influence for sexual favors, they go and visit him in the dead of night. Gil-dong reminds the now-corrupted minister that he said he would be watching him, and he proceeds to mete out justice.

Ga-ryung writes the last chapter of her storybook about the Hong Hero tale, saying that whenever there’s a need for them, they will appear again. The Hong Brothers look over Hanyang, since they’ve heard more rumors of unrest and of people being oppressed. Gil-dong and the others get ready for more rebel action, solidifying their purpose and proclaiming another beginning for the Noisy Hong Clan.

 
COMMENTS

Wow, I was expecting death and tragedy in the final moments, but I’m glad that the writers took creative license with history and gave our heroes a happy ending to their story. Especially with that first scene of Ga-ryung being shot on the post, I was not expecting her to live (and when we saw it in real-time in Episode 27, I thought it might even be poignant and more meaningful to have her die), but we ended up with our band of bandits being silent guardians, watchful protectors, and dark knights ready to help whenever they’re needed. So with a light and thankful heart, I’ll give my final farewell thoughts on the drama that consumed me for the past four months.

Actors Kim Ji-suk and Honey Lee were at their best this episode, showing us gravitas that I had been missing during the middle of Rebel’s run. I’m serious—I think Kim Ji-suk deserves something on the same level as a Korean Oscar. His vacant staring and vacillation between angry tyrant and helpless man-child was absolutely on point. When Yeonsangun mourned Nok-soo’s death, I saw that he didn’t just regard her as an expendable person but loved her in his own twisted way, despite her having believed in life that he did not see her as a lover.

Yes, Yeonsangun committed outrageously heinous deeds and generally did not view others as fellow humans, but like Gil-dong pointed out, it may have been a combination of cowardice and ignorance that led him down this path of violence. But ultimately, he didn’t betray those who were closest to him (Eunuch Kim and Nok-soo), and that shows that his character was perhaps not inherently evil, but rather that his actions may have been a manifestation of his upbringing, very much like how a child stuck in the id-state doesn’t understand how to share or to empathize with others because he was never taught that people around him also had feelings and desires like himself.

I wish Nok-soo’s screen time with Gil-dong had been a bit longer so that they could finally hash out the unsaid feelings between them. Did he resent her for putting Ga-ryung up on that pole and for leaving him all those years ago, and did she still have jealousy and resentment toward him for finding comfort and love in another woman? What were her true feelings on Yeonsangun? Because at the end, it seemed like she turned into a maternal figure for him, and any affection that she felt for him may have been a protective, pitying love rather than the deep passion that she and Gil-dong once shared. Whether she truly realized how her actions to encourage Yeonsangun in his purges impacted the people was not shown, although that beautiful melody as she walked the streets in white sinner’s garb showed that she knew that her life had gone astray.

The endings for the other villains — Mistress Jo, Jeong-hak, and Scholar Song — were exactly what they deserved. Gil-dong didn’t necessarily have a large hand in their downfalls, but rather, it was their own actions that led them to their ultimate ends. Mistress Jo was so far gone in her belief in the natural social order ideology that it’s hard to say if she was truly evil or just radicalized to the point of no return. But during his exile, I could see that Scholar Song was only using the ideology that he promoted just so that he could gain power, and not necessarily because he had a strong belief in it himself. I felt the most pity for Jeong-hak, who I think could have turned into an ally like Mori before the turning point when he became a vengeful bad guy (after finding out that Gil-dong’s father murdered his own). And of our villains, I think that only Jeong-hak realized what life was like on the other side, having experienced firsthand the horror and despair of slavery.

The best story arc wrap-up in the finale, I think, was Mori’s. Hooray for the guyliner’d assassin turning into an awesome hero in the end! The way that Ok-ran brought him back into the fold rather than Gil-dong or Ga-ryung was particularly well done, because I think they were both lonely souls who developed their personalities in opposite ways. Mori, feeling the need to find a new paternal figure after his own attempted to kill him, became subservient to lesser men like Heotaehak and Choongwongoon, while Ok-ran’s personality was excessively nice throughout the drama. She may have felt the need to become well-liked to compensate for her lack of family and to fill her need for love. That ending scene where she cheered him on against Gil-dong in the arm-wrestling competition showed that their emotional scars had healed enough for both to laugh without restraint and feel real joy.

That being said, was there really a need for all those endings? I feel like there were at least two different epilogue sequences when all they needed to do was end with Scholar Song’s comeuppance and Mori’s redemption. Perhaps production was rushed or maybe because it was the last episode, but they seemed like they were trying to cram everything in, because the links between the individual storylines in this particular episode were much choppier than in the others.

Overall though, this sageuk was definitely enjoyable and rich in terms of historical information and performance quality, and it’s one that I would watch again in the distant future. Like dramallama, I concur that the highlight of these last few episodes was truly the people — because they were at the heart of Gil-dong’s revolution, they were able to succeed. By adding Mori, the writers took away the specialness of Gil-dong’s innate “divine” abilities, and it further emphasized that him being the chosen one was a matter of his love and empathy for the people rather than a matter of coincidence and birthright. And that what’s important: People should be treated equally and be given fair opportunities to prove themselves, and when they are, you might be surprised to see what they’re capable of doing.

 
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Tags: Chae Soo-bin, Episode 30, Honey Lee, Kim Ji-suk, Rebel: Thief Who Stole the People, Yoon Kyun-sang

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12. The sad part of Yeonsangun and Nok-soo is I don’t think they really realized how much they cared for each other until it’s too late. By the time, they realize each other matters to the other, it’s off to the gallows! They were never able to really love each other in life.

13. It’s poignant that Yeonsangun’s last supporter is a nobleman…someone who has probably never known the pain from the consequence of Yeonsangun’s actions. He’s upset at how Yeonsangun will be deposed…and yet, his life will not change as a result of Yeonsangun’s dethronement.

14. I liked seeing the contrast of how the Hongvengers reacted to Pedo Prince’s exile and Yeonsangun’s. This time, they are emotionally mature…and it’s the difference of doing something for personal gain versus the good of others. They’re not gloating. And it’s wonderful character growth.

15. The moment when Gil-dong shoots Shorty down from his noose and Yong-gae gives Gil-dong his approval is just hilarious. I think it’s great that Gil-dong thinks Shorty should repent in life. I would love for Shorty to become a mat seller again, be happy and keep on the pulse of things going on in the nation and send the Bat Signal when needed. Plus, Gil-hyun needs to work on being an uncle and finding his own love lol.

16. It’s kind of typical for Jeong-hak to view things in such a transactional, point based way. That by simply doing a task, he’d have enough points to get him out of his situation. It really shows his entitlement from his mindset and upbringing. Only, things don’t work like that anymore and I like that it’s Song Sabu that points out that him and his mom have no cache in the new government and that he’s more of a liability than an asset. He’s been up the butt of a guy who will never care for and support him. It’s what he deserves.

17. I think it’s telling when it’s all over Yeonsangun and Madame Jo still insist that things would have gone their way had it not been for Gil-dong instead of taking responsibility for their actions and accepting their punishments. The truth of the matter is that Yeonsangun probably would have gotten deposed regardless of Gil-dong. He pissed a lot of people off. Gil-dong was merely the spark that lit the fire for revolution. Yeonsangun provided the oxygen for the fire in the people to build. I’m glad Gil-dong spells it out to him. That he was nothing but a coward who refused to see that trust was more important than fear since everyone betrayed him due to fear.

18. It’s rather poetic that Yeonsangun dies as if he still has legitimacy and is still king in his mind…when really he’s just raving mad and lost to his delusions of grandeur.

19. I like that Gil-hyun is the one to really tell the people of Hyangjumok how they got their victory. That they got it by building the flames in themselves. It really suits his character…that he’s a scholar…so of course he’d be the one with the words to really sum up the matter.

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20. Ga-ryung is pregnant! <33333 Of course a resurrection would come with literal new life lol. I think it’s only now that Gil-dong can really understand why Ga-ryung went to the extent that she did to enter the palace…it’s because she saw him completely broken and it just completely crushed her. In the show, they did the thing where they drained all the colour from her world…and I really think she lives in this sort of ghostly purgatory until she meets Gil-dong again. When Gil-dong hugs Ga-ryung…there’s this look on his face that just screams ‘Oh shit. I nearly killed my wife AND unborn child.’ That or an overwhelmed soon-to-be dad. Given the timeline of how quickly things happened, despite how murky things are…I agree with @pakalanapikake now…that they conceived during one of his furloughs. Plus, Ga-ryung would have to have a significant enough of a bump for Gil-dong to understand the belly touch as physical evidence of pregnancy. She certainly looks like she would with the costuming lol. Plus, Like @pakalanapikake said, it would explain why she took so long to wake up. I’ve had friends who get the sudden bump appearance after weeks of nothing. But I don’t think Ga-ryung realized she was pregnant until recently since I really can’t see her risking a child of her and Gil-dong’s or being willing to die, had she known.

21. Even if I can’t decide what kind of orabeoni Mori is to Ok-ran…I really enjoy this relationship. And I do think the writer is playing the parallels on both sides for Gil-dong/Ga-ryung and Gil-dong/Eorini. You can view it either way…that they’re the new Gil-ryung and Mori is just a tsundere (complete with a one-sided love for an older/unavailable woman)…or it’s a Gil-dong/Eorini thing where they’re long-lost siblings of a mighty child and he’s the gruff older brother. I kind of find it hilarious that Ok-ran feels the need to give him an update on Ga-ryung.

22. Mori’s face when he reacts to Eorini accusing him of doing something to Ok-ran is hilarious. He’s like ‘Ugh, this family. I can’t stand them.’

23. So the Geo-in are still around…I feel like this part was a bit shoehorned in for the wrap up of the series…but I can live with it. Since we got a lot of cute moments that I did want to see out of it. Even if it adds to the somewhat choppy vignette style of the finale. But tbh, I really feel like this series earned its fluffy fan-servicy finale. And the finale isn’t without substance but I love that they feel the need to give you such a satisfying ending that just leaves you feeling so warm and content. I mean, they put us through HOURS of heartbreak and days of wondering whether or not Ga-ryung would live with the whole pre-emption…it’s the least they could do. Lol.

24. Ga-ryung does at some point meet Gil-hyun…because she and Gil-dong share a meal with him when Eorini comes with Mori and an injured Ok-ran. Would it be too much to ask to have a scene with Ga-ryung and Gil-hyun? Maybe our couple...

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...shares the news of their new addition? I would have LOVED to have a scene where Gil-hyun gave his younger brother some shit for being so totally gone he is for Ga-ryung. Something like: Do you have to make eyes at each other over dinner? I’m trying to eat. You don’t have to conceive a baby right here ffs. And they’re both like ‘Well…that ship set sail a while ago…Congrats Uncle Gil-hyun?’ ‘When did you even find the time!?’

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25. Lol, Mama Ga-ryung/Guanyin and her two disciples…Oh and before I forget, Gil-dong and Ga-ryung totally have a matching wardrobe since she’s woken up. Basically since they’ve gotten married. They totes go all out with the couple outfits…Gil-ryung wear purple earlier in the episode (practically the same shade)…and in the end, where it’s very summery, they both wear green, which is such a summer colour in Asia.

26. I am getting major tsundere vibes a la Gil-dong from Mori lol. …towards both Ok-ran and the Hongvengers.

27. Ga-ryung is the true mother archetype…and feeds all her kids, even the wayward ones. I love how her and Gil-dong are totally on the same page and start the process of forcefully adopting Mori lol. Like, there’s no discussion, she just somehow, even being pregnant, intercepts Mori and is like ‘come to dinner lol’ I just LOVE the dinner scene and how Mori gets inspected by everyone while he attempts to eat. I think the whole thing about how ‘they’ve never seen Mori eat’ and now want to watch him do it is kind of code for masculinity and seeing what type of man he is. I also love how quickly everyone adopts him since Mori has been such a victim of circumstance and it is only now that Mori is able to seize his fate into his own hands instead of being a victim.

28. I kinda like that Song Sabu is most closely linked to Eorini and Gil-hyun. It’s important for Gil-dong to have two people who know that guy so well since he is such a huge villain for them.

29. It’s cute seeing Mori feeling so out of place as everyone’s saying goodbye to the people of Hyangjumok, but it will probably take awhile for him to come to trust everyone and his new situation. He’s kind of like an abused dog having to relearn everything when he gets adopted into a new home. No, this is a nice family and they’re going to love you and not do bad things to you.

30. I think Song Sabu’s true weakness is his arrogance. He sees himself as such a great mover and shaker and being the true influence behind the monarchy and things happening in Joseon that he misses the fact that people can actually see through him. People aren’t dumb. They can see when they’re being manipulated by you. And Minister Park always saw him as a snake in the grass lying in wait. The fact that he pushes how it was his students that drove Joseon politics and influenced the purges should put fear into any of his smart allies. Who knows when this guy will turn on you and for what purpose? And he’s not above leaving his allies high and dry when they no longer serve his purpose either…a la Jeong-hak.

31. It’s cool seeing Ga-ryung and Mori in the cave for the first time. Mori because he looked for it and could never find it and Ga-ryung because the only time we’ve seen her here, she’s been a dream of Gil-dong’s.

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31. It’s cool seeing Ga-ryung and Mori in the cave for the first time. Mori because he looked for it and could never find it and Ga-ryung because the only time we’ve seen her here, she’s been a dream of Gil-dong’s.

32. I also love how the Hongvengers all sit in a circle, showing their equality and let Mori sit in the circle too. And I love that as early as episode 16 with their meal in Hanyang with Ga-ryung, it’s always been a motif with them. They gather and sit in a circle.

33. I really feel that plotwise, it would have made more sense to deal with the remaining Geo-in and the Suwigdan in episode 29 after Gil-dong recovers…like the Geo-in that flip go to Hyangjumok with Gil-dong and tell him about the rest of the I think it would feel less tacked on that they tried to assassinate Eorini while she’s in the forest with Ok-ran. It could have been something like Gil-dong is incapacitated and Gil-hyun has to take control for a bit and make the decision with Eorini to take down the Suwigdan. Or maybe Geo-in members who are still loyal infiltrate Hyangjumok from Song Sabu’s orders and attempt to kill Eorini at that point when Gil-hyun says they should wait for Gil-dong to recover or something. They’re forced to act…and maybe encounter Mori about to be captured by the Suwigdan and rescue him…then encourage him to help them rescue the rest of the geo-in? I still think there’s a lot of value in Mori rescuing people who have had their choices taken away from them to become victims of circumstance like he is. Maybe a relationship with Ok-ran forms after this…

34. I really like that even before Gil-dong and Gil-hyun tell him, Minster Park already has misgivings about Song Sabu. It shows a certain political savvy that Song Sabu really discounts. I also love how Song Sabu is deposed almost exactly like Yeonsangun. He never thought that would happen and totally took his position for granted as a matter of right rather than privilege. And it’s just so satisfying to see someone destroy his precious Haengrok in front of his face. He’s such a hypocritical character because he sees his actions as preserving social order and yet he flies in the face of that by creating the Geo-in as a private paramilitary force that flies in the face of the king’s legitimacy and own army. …But it’s okay because he’s doing it for the good of the nation…and yet, he persecutes the rebels for doing the same thing…

35. I’m starting to think Minister Park is the same minister that helped Gil-dong earlier in the series in the forest evade capture…Too bad he doesn’t know how to navigate a magic forest that protects its people.

36. I kinda love that the writer is determined to give us parallels to literally EVERY SINGLE Gil-ryung scene we have seen previously. It’s so fan-service-y but I can’t help but like it. Because they’re just soooo cuuute….<3333 It’s a total twist on one of their earlier reunions when Gil-dong kind of teases her, but ultimately rebuffs her feelings...

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...for her which causes Ga-ryung to stomp away. I do like that this time, he physically embraces her and they just really flip the tone of the last scene. This time, the joke lands and doesn’t hurt Ga-ryung. I also feel it’s one of the incredibly meta scenes where we get to say goodbye to our characters from the way the camera pans on each of them and their smiling faces. I kind of love that Eorini and Gil-hyun can’t help but beam at the two of them. Speaking of Eorini, Ga-ryung totally held her hand while they waited. Would have loved to see dialogue between them…

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37. Not only are the Jos punishments poetic and ironic, so too are their ends. These two totally reap what they sow. As a noblewoman, she cast out Eop-san’s grandparents once they were old and ill so she too, dies sick and cast out. The life she wanted for Jeong-hak is torn away because she can’t see that she is the poison that destroyed her own life. It was never Gil-dong who caused her to reach this point, it was herself. She was restrained by a society with strict rules on noblewomen…but she never rose above her circumstances and she doesn’t recognize that her true enemy…the one that really killed all her hopes and dreams was the very system Gil-dong tried to change.

38. I think it’s interesting that the mountain she had wanted to go to was incredibly spiritual and in the lacking of going there, she was probably poisoned by the ideology of the times.

39. I really love that Jeong-hak tries to be like Ah Mo Gae and kill his mistress, but isn’t even able to do that right…it’s like even now, he’s hamstrung by the rules and the social order he has been taught. But he finally knows what Ah Mo Gae felt and why he killed his father…it’s just too late for Jeong-hak too.

40. At first, I wanted Gil-hyun to be the one to have a final conversation with Jeong-hak…but then I remembered that Gil-dong and Jeong-hak are the same age and he was denied his own mother’s milk in order for his mother to feed Jeong-hak. It’s an unbreakable link that ties them.

41. There is just something awesome about the students on the rise being from the very faction in government that Song Sabu tried so hard to destroy and have dominance over. I just LOVE the badass way in which Gil-hyun COMPLETELY dismantles Song Sabu…He knows exactly where to hurt this guy…the idea of his legacy and significance surmounting to nothing. That all his great plans and schemes have been figured out and people have seen him for exactly what he is…an exploiter of the weak. I also love that having no one else to follow him…no one else who sees him as brilliant is what ultimately leads him to kill himself. It really does parallel exactly how Yeonsangun was dismantled. They were both destroyed simply by having their view of themselves taken apart by Gil-dong and Gil-hyun and having no more supporters to reinforce the way they see themselves and feed their ego. So it’s pretty cool that Minister Park sends them both off on their way.

42. Is that island on one of the last shots the same as Kyun-sang’s season of 3MAD? I think I’m totally way off base, but that thought occurred to me lol. I kinda love that montage…cheesy fish and all lol. That island totally reminds me of everything we’ve learned from @liina regarding the end of the HGD story and how he eventually becomes king of an island. I was like OOOH! REFERENCE!

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43. I suppose about five years have passed from Gil-dong’s dialogue to Jeong-hak. Even Baek-gyun, Yong-gae’s love interest looks to be pregnant lol. I wonder if all of those children Ga-ryung puts to sleep are Baby Hongs…Maybe not from Soboori or Ilchung, but the rest of them are definitely up to the task…*cough*Gil-hyun*cough* *cough*Eop-san*cough* I really love Ga-ryung telling that story and how there’s these winks to the audience and Gil-dong about how, no, Hong Chum Ji is goodlooking lol. I also love how Ga-ryung is ultimately a storyteller and in a meta way responsible for the dissemination of the HGD story in their universe. You understand how we may have gotten the story we have today…she mostly told it orally to children. And maybe somewhere along the way, someone got a hold of her manuscript and decided to put their own spin on things…because maybe the fiction was better than the fact to them. It also speaks to the long literary tradition of women, particularly in Asia like Murasaki Shikubu etc. And how it’s women who have given us modern Japanese and Korean written language. Interestingly, these women scripts are usually phonetically based on alphabets and even China has it (but that was suppressed and never made the impact of being adapted at court by court ladies, so we’re stuck with Chinese characters alone lol).

44. I kinda love that the final scene with Gil-ryung takes you back to the very beginning of their relationship and gives you a surprise…that Gil-dong has had Ga-ryung in his heart since pretty much the very beginning. Remember when we thought the ship had sank despite all the hints, like Ah Mo Gae saying that Gil-dong liked her and all of Gil-dong’s pseudo-platonic considerate actions towards her? Well, the ship was always sailing and Gil-dong was the secret captain all along lol. It’s also a nice way to wrap up how this series has always been about the choices we make ourselves and not just fate putting us in certain positions.

45. I also like how Ga-ryung brings out this sweet, teasing nature in Gil-dong. The only other character he really has that relationship with is Eorini. It’s also interesting how it’s at the VERY end of the drama…after these two have had two kids (one is invisible? Lol) that we finally get a proper ‘I love you’ from Gil-dong. Like…we never needed it after all we’ve seen, but there’s something to be said about giving the audience 26 to 30 episodes of evidence to the fact before it’s ever voiced. There’s no question for us when he says it, we know it’s true. And I just love the acting in the scene and the expressions on Soo-bin’s face like ‘Okay. This better be good, or you’re sleeping on the couch.’ …AND they even parallel it with Ga-ryung’s love confession in episode 16…it’s the only time she kind of stops, catches herself and clears her throat to say something to him.

Just one more post...

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46. Gil-ryung has got to be the cutest, most rewarding OTP in a long while…They give you sooo much uncertainty of returned feelings, pull at your heartstrings, a shit ton of angst, sooo many cute happy moments and a happy ending. But most of all, a really balanced couple who love and support each other and don’t do crappy things to one another. They just treat each other well. And I really appreciate it.

47. Well…they’re certainly on pace to go for 10…hehehehe. I think Mori asking about whether or not Gil-dong has eaten was a reference to Episode 20 when Gil-dong runs back to his wife to basically have sexy times and Ilchung tells him to remember to eat and Soboori asks ‘why would he forget to eat?’ with the implication that it’s because he’s too busy doing “something else.” ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) So I think Gil-dong may be lowkey admitting to sexy times with his wife and Mori is again getting a read on whether or not Gil-dong has expended his energies elsewhere just as what Segul states lol. I also think Baby no. 1 was meant to be played by Lee Ro-woon aka Baby Gil-dong who couldn’t because of conflicting schedules. I mean, the other babies got cameos! Maybe one of those audience members is Baby no. 1?

48. I really love seeing the Hongvengers having fun…and any time Gil-dong goes into his young Gil-dong faces. It’s just so amusing. But I really like how they end this series…that the work is not over for Gil-dong and the Hongvengers. They’re going to keep watching over Joseon and protecting the people.

49. I really got a huge laugh out of Minister Park’s reaction to the Hongvengers…and that whole entire sequence, down to Soboori blowing out the candle is SOOO Batman. It’s very Frank Miller Batman Year One (but with a lighter and fun tone…Let’s just say Frank Miller would NOT end a story like this at all. Like, Ga-ryung would have died, there would be a TON of hookers, drugs, violence against children and a nihilistic, sadistic ending). I really like how they dealt with the historical Park who lead the revolt against Yeonsangun…that he wasn’t made into a heroic, altruistic character. It was unexpected because I think other dramas would have went that way.

50. I just LOOOOOVED how they ended the series with the Hongvengers as watchers on the wall. It was so great and so meta to so many things, current events/politics, their own drama ending, the acknowledgment of the audience...and referencing the real event happening in front of them. It just gave me so much satisfaction and warmth to leave this drama. This drama gave us so many episodes of pain and suffering that I just felt that it earned its happy ending…and I know some people think it’s implausible to have all these characters survive, but I think part of that is because this story also works on the mythic, spiritual level…and that the point of having all the baddies die and our heroes live is to show that they are on the right side and favoured by the heavens…that there is legitimacy...

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...what they do. And I just selfishly want them all to be happy…

So that's it! It was a blast chatting to everyone! See you in another series' recap!

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@cloveredlioness,

I was off to the races after REBEL ended, and just found your final set of Random Thoughts. I just want you to know how much I enjoyed discussing and dissecting REBEL with you and the rest of the Noisy Beanies. Thanks for contributing your insights. To paraphrase the words of "Truckin'" by the Grateful Dead, "What a long sageuk trip it's been." ;-)

I'm looking forward to our paths crossing again in the future. Aloha oe! Until we meet again. ;-)

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I really liked this drama and am so unhappy that I didn't found the time to read through the comments earlier. I wasn't able to read them before today... but better late than never!

When I read through the comments the question that seemed to me was asked the most was wether Mori and Ok-ran are "just" brother and sister or if they are supposed to be Gil-dong and Ga-ryung 2.0.

So I think I will try to express my thoughts about that from the book interpretations and from how the writer seems to use the Book of Changes (I was really busy studying the Book of Changes the last weeks ;))

I also want to finish my stories. The retelling of the Hong Gil-dong tale. Express my thoughts on certain minor character (the boy from the grave, the silent bodyguard of Teacher Song etc.) and write something about my thoughts on Gil-dong's encounter with the tiger in the forest (I have a lot of thoughts on that in regards to the interpretations on the Hong Gil-dong tale).

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About Mori and Ok-ran:

Mori and Ok-ran how they are in the series are not directly characters from the Original Tale. They do feature though. And Ok-ran features in the Guanying stories that the writer used for telling Ga-ryung's story.

Mori's character is a compilation of different characters of the book and different interpretations of the Hong Gil-dong tale. The most important interpretation for Mori, the other Mighty Child, (and to an extent for Ok-ran as well) is the interpretation of the Eul-dongs as being the "Other Child" (other children) or "The Second Child" (second children) or in regards to Gil-dong and Mori "The Unlucky Child" since Gil-dong is the Lucky Child.
Haha, I have to admit in retrospective I really think that Eorini game was quite fun, because even I referred to Ok-ran as "the other" Eorini without making any connection to the "other children" from the book. In some of the book versions the other children get hit by the arrows of fate that Gil-dong by luck or fate could dodge. I have more to say about that later but for now it's just enough that addressing the good luck/bad luck issue is breaking Gil-dong's and Mori's arrow of fate relationship. So Mori and Ok-ran they are basically the other sister and the other child now without the bad luck, so we are free to think about them in which way ever we want, since their relationship mirrors Gil-dong's and Ga-ryung's.

What to add from the book of changes about the second children: The book of changes has three sets of brother and sister. The first ones are the brother and sister that set the things in motion. The second ones are the brother and sister of execution (lol, it's nicely seen with Ok-ran and Sang-hwa in the palace when Sang-hwa always makes the planes and pushes poor Ok-ran into them, but then it's easier for Ok-ran to execute them ;)). The third set are the brother and sister who bring the plans to fullfilment. - so how the brother and sister relationships ended in Rebel is absolutely perfect to their counterparts in the book of changes. Since Gil-hyun and Eorini are the beginning they will always stay as brother and sister anyway (which is good. no incest... ;)). What will happen between Mori and Ok-ran is still open.
According to the book of changes the second brother and sister have to be careful with their relationship until they found their inner harmony anyway, because when they don't know themselves and their strengths well, they could kill each other... Since she is fire and he is the deep water - and they both have a tendency to either overdo things or to be too afraid/too afraid of themselves to do anything - they are a great team when they have a relaxed relationship in contact with the rest of the family though, because then they negate each others dangerous sides and are very protective, a warming fire and a deep water with just enough ice on the surface that it neither kills the life under the ice nor that it breaks...

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... breaks under the people that stand on the ice.
And yes I realised that the Book of Changes has parallels to Game of Thrones (hm, or probably more the other way around). But I don't know if it is coincidentally or not. Since these are Archetypes.

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It's interesting to see Mori and Ok-ran as the unlucky other children. They really make an interesting parallel to Gil-dong and Ga-ryung that way since they have such similar circumstances, but it's the luck, fate and choices that make all the difference.

It's interesting you talk about 'arrows of fate' that Gil-dong could dodge but how the other children couldn't...because then it really does make sense that the Hongvengers literally dodged and survived all those arrows that hit them in the battles...since the Hongvengers also represent the story about Gil-dong splitting himself into all those straw puppets. OMG lol. This writer is just crazy with tying everything together! To that extent, it also makes sense that Ga-ryung was also spared since she's also lucky.

On the Ga-ryung note...I've also forgotten something I've always wanted to talk about...which is Ga-ryung being blindfolded. The goddess of Justice, Justitia, is blindfolded because the law is supposed to be blind. So Ga-ryung becomes symbollic of the justice of the people and seeking justice for what the king has done. Furthermore, Gil-dong has to let go of his personal feelings and enact the blindness/impartiality of justice and do the right thing.

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I also thought about justitia in that scene. Actually in that scene in the camp of Yeonsan nobody is really free except Yeonsan, Prince and Jeong-hak (I'm not quite sure if Jeong-hak is free but at least he thinks he is). The rest (the whole is either imprisoned or silenced by fear or by having no hopes or by feeling powerless. That means basically the whole idea of the balance of powers in that state has collapsed which gives the dethronement justification.

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@cloveredlioness June 7, 2017 at 5:16 PM

On the Ga-ryung note...I've also forgotten something I've always wanted to talk about...which is Ga-ryung being blindfolded. The goddess of Justice, Justitia, is blindfolded because the law is supposed to be blind.

Another aspect of the symbolism of blindfolded Ga-ryung as the goddess of Justice could be an indictment of the laws of the land that treat so many citizens unjustly because of their social status. Justice is supposed to be "blind" (equally applied to all persons). All throughout REBEL, however, we seen how this is simply not true. Some people are more equal than others. Some act as if they are above the law – and are allowed to get away with it.

Those good ol' Confucian Values that Song Sabu and the Sugwidan so vehemently uphold are supposed to entail reciprocity between the Five Relationships. In actual practice, one of the parties always gets the short end of the stick instead of being equally empowered as well as equally obligated. Commoners and slaves just want to be treated like human beings, but their social betters are affronted and threatened by their not knowing their place.

It occurs to me that blindfolded Ga-ryung could be another depiction of Kwan-Yin. She cannot see. But she can hear the sounds of suffering (Gil-dong's cries of despair, the sounds of battle raging around her). In fact, because she cannot see, her listening is that much more acute. She's tied to the stake and cannot do anything except listen, and holler at Gil-dong to do the right thing. By heeding her words, he turns the tables on Yeonsangun and Nok-soo.

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It's when she hears the suffering of the people...the ones who ask Gil-dong to save her at their expense that her request is for Gil-dong to do the right thing. That scene kills me! But it not only shows Ga-ryung's compassion but also strength, knowing that Gil-dong is going to have to hurt the one he loves most to do right for everyone...to show that her life is not above theirs. Also Chae Soo-bin just kills that scene when she hears those voices and knows that she's going to have to ask Gil-dong to shoot her. (Both Chae Soo-bin and Yoon Kyun-sang kill me in that scene lol)

Those scenes with Ga-ryung on the stake, I think, also turns the tables on so many damsel in distress, fridging the woman for manpain and superhero tropes on its head. We've known since episode 1 that Ga-ryung was always going to be held hostage and made a damsel in distress. We've also known that she was going to be used as leverage against Gil-dong and perhaps she would become some kind of motivation for Gil-dong with her death. But when it plays out, Ga-ryung still has agency over what happens. And it's the fact that Gil-dong shoots her, that Ga-ryung is willing to be sacrificed that basically turns the tide of the entire story.

Not only that, most stories would have Gil-dong lose his control, attempt to rescue Ga-ryung and for her to die in the process and allow Yeonsangun to crush part of the rebellion. Not Rebel. And even if Ga-ryung had been shot...which usually never happens in any situation like this, she would have died just to cause the hero manpain. Not here. I just so admire the writer for taking apart so many tropes with that moment and for it just to be so significant to the overall drama. And I just love that she built the Gil-ryung relationship so strongly that by the time Ga-ryung's on the stake, you're just sooo invested. And CSB and YKS just sold the hell out of it.

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@liina !!! I thought I'd check this thread today just out of a whim and sure enough, you posted! It's good to see you and I really enjoy what you've written!

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It's good to see you too! :D

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@58 liina June 7, 2017 at 1:24 PM:

So glad to see your comment today! I've missed you during the finale and its aftermath. ;-)

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I'm so happy to see you here as well! :) And thank you for being concerned for me (about me?) when I was ill. I read your comment in the other thread.
I can also happily tell that I convalesce well. :D

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@liina,

I'm glad that you're on the mend. I didn't want to intrude, especially when you mentioned hospitalization, but did want to leave a note of moral support. ;-)

I don't know what it is about Writer-nim's compelling dramas -- but I was totally wrung-out and succumbed to a nasty respiratory bug after THE KING'S DAUGHTER ended. It was like flu that dragged on for five weeks. I was too out of it to log on, and missed the post-finale commiseration with confreres on Soompi as a result.

Re: idiom, I would use the phrase "concerned about" as my first choice - although for and over also work. ;-)

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I'm sorry to hear about your illness, but glad you're better now!

It's kinda funny that @pakalanapikake also mentioned getting sick after watching a drama because I got sick around the time after Rebel ended lol...but I think that had more to do with the stress from air travel, the recycled air and being in a new environment. (I kept on thinking for maybe 10 days I would get a cold, but then it finally hit me some time later and I was sick for about a week. Luckily, my colds are usually only bad for 1 or 2 days.)

I hope everyone's healthy now!

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Could you please tell me which site you download kdramas from?

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About Gil-hyun and Kim Gyo-gak and the Monk Josin

I don't know If you guys remember that I wrote about the name of the grave of the child Gil-hyun took the identity from. I said it was possibly Park An-ki (-a) because it means Peaceful/quiet Jade (son) but it's Hanja are also a part the Chinese loan word for angel 安琪兒 - an1qi2er2. In the dream of monk Josin (that story is connected to the Hong Gil-dong tale) the monk (who had no wife and children) dreamed his life in which his children died young and he separated from his wife and when after awakening he digged up the place where he had buried his dream son in his dream, he found a little Jade figurine.

The other monk, Kim Gyo-gak or monk Jijang, was a Shilla prince who renounced the political world, traveled to China and became a devoted Buddhist and a hermit on Mount Jihua. He lived as a hermit till he was really, really old. His later incarnation was the "Earth womb" Buddha, the bodhisattva Ksitigarbha. In a way that would make Gil-hyun the son of Ksitigarbha or Ksitigarbha. He is the bodhisattva that takes the place of Gautama Buddha in his absence. That means that Gil-hyun by leading the life of the early deceased child will send the good kharma of that life span to the dead child. The bodhisattva Ksitigarbha is the bodhisattva of the children that died before their parents, or died at birth or before birth. He helps them with their rebirth circle and hides them from the demons in his robes when they are stuck between the world of the living and the world of the dead.
Ksitigarbha is a very motherly bodhisatva.

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Apropos Jade. I don't think Ok-ran had a brother. I think more that she had once the dream of having a brother and the dream was taken from her (probably she was one of the little kids Gil-dong gave sweets to?). Also I think that the "Jade" in Ok-ran's name means, she is the idea of a sister. (or it's her dream to be a sister?) - A dream that is in the process of becoming reality when everybody and their mother starts to aknowledge her as a sister. :)

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That is fascinating considering that Ok-ran and Mori seem to serve the purpose as being the fake/false mighty child/Eorini (girl child). And it isn't until they're adopted by the Hongvengers that they're made real/given real life...kinda like how Pinocchio gets to become a real boy.

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Hm, I meant Ksitigarbha (I have to copy paste his name:)) hides the children in his robes when demons come after the children. I didn't want to say that he has demons in his robes! :)

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LOL! I understood what you meant. I have a lovely little Jizo statue with a small child tugging on his robe. ;-)

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Yes, I think we should just call him Jizo or Jijal bodhisattva! Much easier! - Hm, I just remembered that in the Romance of the Three Kingdoms there is also the story about Zhao Zilong who during the battle of changban hid Liu Bei's child in his robes while riding over the battlefield through all of Cao Cao's army. - That story isn't featured in the Hong Gil-dong tale. But I really love that story. I think probably everybody does. Haha, Zhao Zilong is one of the five tiger generals. He absolutely had to feature in "Rebel"! :)

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Well...there is Ga-ryung unknowingly hiding her and Gil-dong's unborn baby during the stake scene in the battle lol. ;-)

I always found it striking that the moment Ga-ryung got put in jail, she just looks sick, like she's under the weather...all pale and sweaty. And it makes me wonder if it was because of her being malnourished during her captivity or symptoms of her pregnancy.

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@60 liina June 10, 2017 at 12:57 PM:

The bodhisattva Ksitigarbha is the bodhisattva of the children that died before their parents, or died at birth or before birth. He helps them with their rebirth circle and hides them from the demons in his robes when they are stuck between the world of the living and the world of the dead.

Liina, as soon as I read the description, I realized that Ksitigarbha is also known as Jizo bodhisattva in Japan. He shares many similarities with Kannon / Kwan-Yin. ;-)

That's an interesting karmic angle regarding Gil-hyun's living out the life of Nobleman Park's prematurely-deceased grandson.

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Yes, he is like the scholar version of Gautama Buddha. I think he is one of his incarnations. Gil-dong has some of the traits of Jizo/Jijang too. While Gil-hyun shares some of the Gautama Buddha. And Mori is mostly Maitreya. The future Buddha. (Haha, the other Buddha) The universal Buddha without family who gives out loving kindness despite never having received it.
Hihi, he played the same character in Bing-goo. The guy who used all the warmth of his heart for someone else while having a frozen body. He embarks on a journey together with a girl who is afraid to love and for which love is a burden (cold heart, warm body). They meet some people and together they learn to understand the concept of harmonious love. It's a sweet, sad, warm and thoughtful Mini-drama.

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@liina,

I finally got to see the drama special BINGOO a couple of months ago. And now I'm seeing your comment relating it to Mori as Maitreya. I'm glad I dropped by to revisit the REBEL finale. ;-)

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There's almost two or three scenes which I really wish we had in the drama...one of them is a scene where we get to find out what Grandpa Park had wanted for his deceased grandson...what he wanted that grandson to become and what his request to anyone who found his body actually was. I would have just loved a scene at the end of the drama where Gil-hyun sees Grandpa Park after Song Sabu hangs himself and says thank you to him and to let him know that he maybe upheld his wishes or something.

I also would have LOVED a scene between Gil-dong and the mudang after his last romantic scene with Ga-ryung where they talk about him being a mighty child and we maybe wrap up Gil-dong's mystical powers or do something with the idea of Gil-dong being a tiger and the tiger having been like his familiar or spirit animal/guardian. And Gil-dong having taken up the role of the tiger. They could also have talked about how he's really become the mighty child.

The third scene I would have loved is probably more scenes involving Gil-dong's developing feelings for Ga-ryung...since the drama is almost very subtle with exactly how they develop. I mean, we know that he has them...but they aren't totally clear until the suitors in Episode 16...Before then, it's like chasing crumbs and thinking your ship has sunk lol. But I dunno...I mean, it kinda made watching the show engaging and maddening, so maybe it's good as it is. I think I would also like a scene to see exactly what led Gil-dong to chase after Ga-ryung because he's adamant to let her go at first. So what changes his mind?

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I actually think the scene with the tiger in the forrest refers to "Les Miserables". All the characters in the books were send into the forrest of tigers in the drama. Gil-dong literally, but every other character as well. In Les Miserables (at least the musical, I have read the books and I remember they were a little bit different but I read them over 20 years ago, so I don't remember them anymore) Cosette (the little one) is sent into the dark forrest to fetch water in the middle of the night. She is lucky as she encounters Jean Valjean who is there on her dead mothers Fantines behalf. He leads her out of the forrest and gives her a home and fatherly love as good as he can. The dark forrest in Les Miserables is used for abandonment fears.

In Fantines song I dreamed a dream she sings about the tigers: "But the tigers come at night. With their voices soft as thunder. As they tear your hopes apart. As they turn your dreams to shame". In China tigers are a a symbol of power. Like Gil-hyun once says to Jeong-hak that he lived his childhood life out of Joseon, and even in the times he was well fed he was always exposed to outer powers that could tear his life apart any minute. - In Korea the tigers (and bears) not only stand for the people but they can also stand for tigers that couldn't become human. Therefore they represent the realm of animals in the Samsara/Sansara (yeah I know in game of thrones Sansa Stark - yeah I know stark is a German word and that it means strong - is named after Sansara...) Buddhist wheel of death and rebirth (oh, probably the geo-in are meant to stop the cyclic change of death and rebirth, thus not allowing the country to reach enlightenment or at least to take the next step from the country of animals to the country of humans? - Makes sense since then Song Sabu would be equal to Mara the God of temptation who sends his "daughters"/fake nuns/fake disciples in all the realms of Samsara. Then Eorinis name Sanghwa would refer to the Sangha, the Buddhist followers).

Back to the forest and the tiger. I think as a child Gil-dong had the luck that he avoided the danger of being getting lost in the forrest, he didn't encounter a real tiger only the fear for tigers, though fears are rather real too, he found comfort for the death of his mother in the little bird that he saw as her incarnation (that's by the way also taken from the story of the Jijang bodhisattva). The spirit of his mom or Kuanyin/Gwaneum/Kannon stoped Amogae from drinking and freezing himself to death thus the children avoided the fate of becoming street children (by the way I think one of the three street children they encountered when they arrived in Ikhwari was played by the child actor who played little Mori in his flashback - the other ones whose faces we are not seeing are played by middle Eorini and child Gil-hyun? I'm not sure about that though. I'm horrible with recognizing faces. I can only recognize voices.) I think when Gil-dong...

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It's so interesting to learn more about the geo-in and another meaning behind the name 'Sanghwa'! ...So the geo-in or cart people are literally employed to stop the wheels from turning. That meaning linked to the Buddhist wheel is fascinating.

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... when Gil-dong talked to the tiger after he decided to become a peddler he meant it like: "sorry tiger, I don't want to become a tiger in the animal realm; I just want to become a human in the human world". The problem is that it's surely good to strive to become human, he is avoiding his responsibilities to other human beings. Unlike Amogae who is at least trying to create a haven for the angry abused.

Ga-ryung, when left alone in the forrest, found a little sheltered hut in the forrest with some people who at least kept the tigers away and then, when left alone, waited for somebody who could lead her out of the forrest.

That little boy Gil-hyun impersonated wasn't send in the forrest in the absence of a father figure or because he wasn't loved, but because his granddad wanted to save him from the political tigers. Only a forrest without humans isn't a place for a child to grow up and the child got torn apart by the natural tigers instead (or bandits or whatever can lurk in forrests). That's by the way what Amogae means, when he asks Gil-dong if Gil-dong is sure that he will be able to live out his life trying to keep himself away from everything.

Nok-soo is brought in the forrest to be offered to the tigers by her mother but at least her mother sits by her, holds her hand and cries for her.

Yeonsan is trying to conquer the forrest by caging all or killing all animals inside and by rooting out trees and planting artificial trees. And then he looses himself in the artificial forrest of artificial trees.

Mori is thrown of the cliff in the forrest by his own dad, because his dad thinks he is a vicious tiger child. In the forrest he is left alone hungry and thirsty and bleeding and freezing till he encounters the vicious tigers who tell him that he is a vicious tiger child, so he is their child and if he does everything they tell him and if he is a brave little vicious tiger child, they will cloth him and feed him and protect him from the other vicious tigers and if he is a very, very brave little tiger child and does everything to their satisfaction they won't abandon him either.

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It's really interesting to see the drama through the perspective of the tiger and the forest.

In the end...thinking back, all Gil-dong ever wanted was to have a farm with his family and live the simple life. And it wasn't possible for him before because he was shirking his duties as a mighty child, given to him by the tiger. But now, because he's accepted his responsibility and is still vigilant in it...he is rewarded with the idyllic life he wanted, surrounded by his family. And his family is full of the people who have been led from the forest.

Interestingly enough, I think both Gil-dong's mom and Ga-ryung are associated with birds. Gil-dong's mom obviously as that pink dove...but Ga-ryung from when Magistrate Eom calls her their chatterbox who needs to come back and chat like a skylark.

Doves apparently (according to google research lol) symbolize fidelity in Asia since they mate for life...and are revered for taking good care of their young. So giving Ah Mo Gae the push to take care of their kids would definitely reflect that symbolism in Geum-ok.

Larks are songbirds that can sing while in flight. I wasn't able to find anything about Asian symbols regarding the lark..but they are symbols of happiness, daybreak, lovers, religious piety and the passage between heaven and earth. They were also popular as pets to be taught songs in China.

I've also been on a kick listening to the soundtrack (I miss the drama, okay? lol)...and it seems to me like all the songs associated with Ga-ryung have this chirpy, bird-like quality to them...Even in the songs that didn't get released. (I want the ENTIRE incidental score so bad) They also tend to portray Ga-ryung's playful and mischievous nature, too.

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I think the skylark is meant to be an acceptance for Ga-ryung as being the third daughter in the house of humans, since the third daughter's domain (the third daughter is the one who wants to bring the house to an end) is the lake. - As for the bird: Rebel takes the symbol for the fourth guardian of the country, the vermillion bird, as a symbol for dragon girl, the symbol for the female disciples of Guanyin. - I don't know how much the guardian gods are inspired by buddhism and if there is a connection or if it was only made for the drama.

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It's probably also a reference to the biblical tale of Jesus when he gathers with the people on a mountain and they have only two fish and five bread to share, but the two fish and five bread still satisfy the need of the people. It's a tale about sharing but also about the right teachings and that there is more to life than satifying ones basic needs. From the point of christianity as well from the point of guanyin that would be love, compassion, hope. From the buddhistic view it also refers to the right view of the afterlife and to the tale "Your fish is my shit" (Hm sorry for using these kind of words but I do have that tale only in English at home and it's literally titled like that). By the way, it also explains all the toilet jokes around monk Ilchung. It's a story about two people who share a meal of fish together. I'm going to tell that tale later, I have to play with my son now. It's a very simple tale with a lot of meaning and it explains a lot of things about the stake scene (and the whole Tale of Hong Gil-dong).

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The "your fish is my shit" story

I'm going to quote what Kim Kichung wrote about it in "An Introduction to Classical Korean Literature - From Hyangga to P'ansori" rebublication from 2015, London & New York; page 67

"When Hyekong [an eccentric monk] was at Hangsa Monastery, we are told, Weonhyo [a great master of buddhism] would visit him to discuss doctrinal matters or simply to have some fun together. One day the two go fishing in a stream and after eating their catch they defecate on a rock. Pointing to the excrement, Hyekong tells Weonhyo: Your fish is my shit.
What do we make of this peculiar episode? Interestingly enough, the story reminds me [I'm still quoting Kim Kichung] of the graveyard scene near the end of Shakespear's Hamlet, when Hamlet comes to realize that even the greatest heroes of antiquity, such as Caesar and Alexander, are finally no more than a handful of earth that goes to plug up a 'bunghole'. For like every other creature on earth they too must turn to dust, out of which grow plants that in turn make animal and human life possible."

Kim Kichung than goes on about why that story connects to Hamlet 4.3.27-28 and Hamlets speach to King Claudius. And we know that the writer of Rebel already made a connection to King Claudius, the one who let the prisoner armies fight against each other and was the initiator of the morituri te salutant.

Kim Kichung also says (same page, same book) about the story:
"Similarly, according to the Buddhist doctrine everything is connected to everything else in the eternal cycle of nature, of which each one of us is a part both in life and in death. [...] There is no difference between 'your fish' and 'my shit,' for, understood correctly, each is no more than the shape it momentarily assumes in the eternal cycle of nature. To understand this is to understand the truth essential to salvation".

Personally [liina speaking not Kim Kichung] I think, the story of your fish is my shit also reminds me of the stray arrow of fate from the Hong Gil-dong tale. Or to the stone verse of the Goryeo Song "Song of the Green Mountains".

At what place is this stone thrown?
At what person is this stone thrown?
Here no one to hate or love,
I cry being hit by the stone.
Yalli yalli yallasyeong yallari yalla

(All the eight verses of the Song of the Green Mountains are heaviliy presented in Gil-dongs time as a wanderer/peddler/musician.)

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That's for helping to explain Ilchung's toilet humour and flatulence lol. I just always felt there was something there besides the whole thing about how they have better bowel movements once they are doing good for others. But it's appropriate that Ilchung is the one who would be referencing the cycles of life and how everything ultimately just returns to dirt lol since he's the monk.

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The teachings of Guanyin and the Buddhas and the whole Drama Rebel also reminds me of the essence of the new testament. It's 1 corinthians 13 1-13

"If I speak in the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I am a noisy gong or a clanging cymbal. And if I have aprophetic powers, and understand all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have all faith, so as to remove mountains, but have not love, I am nothing. If I give away all I have, and if I deliver up my body to be burned, but have not love, I gain nothing.
Love is patient and kind; love does not envy or boast; it is not arrogant or rude. It does not insist on its own way; it is not irritable or resentful; it does not rejoice at wrongdoing, but rejoices with the truth. Love bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things.

Love never ends. As for prophecies, they will pass away; as for tongues, they will cease; as for knowledge, it will pass away. For we know in part and we prophesy in part, but when the perfect comes, the partial will pass away. When I was a child, I spoke like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I gave up childish ways. For now we see in a mirror dimly, but then face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I have been fully known.
So now faith, hope, and love abide, these three; but the greatest of these is love."

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I really think that it was because Gil-dong loved Ga-ryung enough to uphold her wishes at the stake scene that he was able to succeed and ultimately be rewarded with a life with her. Ga-ryung's love and compassion is also big enough and wide enough to include others besides Gil-dong which allows her to sacrifice herself for the good of all. And Gil-dong's love and compassion is ultimately what conquers Yeonsangun's jealousy, fear and strict legalism.

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If anybody knows more about the symbolism of shoes, please feel free to tell us.
Im Kkeok-jeong was a straw shoe maker before he became an outlaw.
Straw shoes symbolise a life of hard work.

I know that "dancing in fire shoes on the way to death" is from Brother Grimm's fairytales and it's how the evil queen who fell victim to jealousy and wanted to kill snow white was punished.
The problem is that she wanted to receive all the pair of shoes (love) but never gave her shoes to somebody else. So in the end the fairy tale queen was consumed by the burning shoes. Nok-soo in regards to the story of Miaoshan (Guanyin) in the end wasn't consumed by the fire but put out the flames and stayed unburned.
She also gave the shoes she had received back to the world. Which means she left the hope of love for the people to take.
That's very beautiful because in regards of the story of Miaoshan that means she forgave her executioner and took the bad karma of the people who killed her upon herself.

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It also means that she is now a mighty monkey queen buried under the mountain to be freed by Guanyin. So - even when she got a look into the Naraka (underworld) - she is not in the Naraka but somebody with the hope of becoming human planted in the womb of the earth.

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Hm, since the shoes actually are the fake shoes, she left the fake shoes behind not the real ones. That means she didn't give love/forgiveness back to the people. She held on to the gods of vanity and illusion and left the shoes of vanity and illusion behind (to become the misery of others). - In the end she didn't hold hands with Gil-dong as the loving Buddha but as the god who gave her the illusion of being an artist. She died a fake queen and a fake artist. That's really sad.

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Hm, now I just fell into the trap that the writer probably wanted us to avoid. Trying to judge by halfknowledge. And then going by one interpretation I made her into a really good person and the other time into a bad person. The idea of a drama is to see each other us humans and neither put somebody on a pedestrial nor seeing each other us "the other" for us to judge and condemn.

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I think both readings are possible. And I like them both...To merge both ideas lol...I do think she turns away from Gil-dong's compassion and embraces perhaps a false god (someone she puts on a pedestal) who inflates her vanity as an artist...but importantly, she goes to her death as a penance for everything she's done. She knows what she has done was wrong and that she deserves what's coming to her...it's why she refuses Gil-dong's help to save her life. And that is what the rocks are about...to feel the weight of those she has harmed and do penance for her actions. That was what the rock represented to Sun Wukong, penance for his own pride and vanity against Buddha. The shoes kind of serve as a warning almost...It's the vanity, pride and jealousy that got Nok-soo where she is. I also always felt that Nok-soo's end was quite poetic and also fairy tale like. In the end, she is destroyed and nothing remains but a representation of her vanity.

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Well...I did some quick googling lol. In dreams, shoes can symbolize how you are moving forward in your life, whether it's your career or spiritual path. It can mean understanding something since you stand on top of them. I also read about how most of Asia and in Arabic countries as well, there is a taboo on shoes because they are ritually impure. Basically, most Asians do not wear shoes indoors and the removal of shoes is needed for religious ceremonies or entering temples and places of worship.

With Nok-soo then, I suppose the shoes represent her reaching her path and goal of becoming the king's woman as his favourite concubine. But also perhaps, what a dangerous path that was, because although beautiful, it ultimately left to her demise...and all that was left, were her shoes.

I also feel like in k-dramas shoes are often a love token or represent a path towards someone. They're often given by a loved one to someone else.

In Six Flying Dragons, Boon-yi receives flower shoes from Bang-won. They're a beautiful gift, but represented not only love, but also their enormous class difference and different paths in life...and ultimately how they would not be able to find a path together.

In Another Oh Hae-young, Hae-young receives Park Do-kyung's shoes from him to waylay any creepy deliverymen or creepers from trying something lewd with her by implying that she was involved with another man already. Those shoes represent protection...something Do-kyung represents for Hae-young in other instances as well. She also wears a pair of uncomfortable heels to stop thinking of the pain of her relationship with Do-kyung.

In Pinocchio and Weightlifting Fairy Kim Bok-joo, Choi In-ha and Jung Joon-hyung, respectively, both receive shoes from their estranged mothers. In-ha eventually tosses her shoes away, realizing the depth of her mother's lies and treachery. Joon-hyung's are ill-fitting and causes him injury. Ultimately, these shoes represent how those relationships have hurt them and continue to do so. Joon-hyung also receives shoes from his ex-girlfriend which he gives back...representing the refusal to return her love/affection.

Shim Cheong receives shoes from Joon-jae in Legend of the Blue Sea, which represents one of the first instances he is kind to her and a link from which she can come back to him later.

In Rebel,

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Oops, I decided to start a new post lol. In Rebel, shoes are not only love tokens, but also a representation of class status.

Ah Mo Gae changes his shoes from straw to leather and upgrades the status of his entire family. But he also receives straw shoes from Gil-dong who puts them on his feet lovingly.

Shoes also represent Jeong-hak's loss of status when he is forced to take off the shoes of the ministers once he becomes a slave for failing to appease the king's desires. When Gil-dong is imprisoned, his shoes return to straw. Also, despite class, even Yeonsangun takes off his shoes indoors. There's a levelling process there.

Gil-dong purchases shoes for Eorini's birthday. They represent his love for her, but when they are lost, Eorini's path to Gil-dong is also lost. Gil-dong's path to Eorini's is also lost because of it. Everyone thinks she's dead. If the cloth represents their severed link, then the missing shoes are the missing path, I suppose.

Shoes also play a bit of a role in Ga-ryung's path towards Gil-dong. She wears the straw shoes to infiltrate Heo Tae Hak's mansion and steal back Ah Moe Gae's prayer beads. In doing so, she is lowering her status and hiding her true self. When she finally leaves the compound, the shoes are a bad fit and provide her no grip, so she nearly falls off the roof. Gil-dong proves his earlier harsh words (that he would not care if she died) wrong and saves her by catching her. Although he later continues to tsundere her for showing her a brief glimpse of his heart in catching her, the moment shows that his heart has warmed to her. There is a path to his heart. I think it's also meaningful that it's the straw shoes that causes this. She thinks she's painfully ordinary, but it doesn't matter. Gil-dong notices her. He also later gifts her flower shoes, but we never see this...because the first path was drawn from the simplest, most ordinary shoes, made of straw.

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thank you God Gil dong and Mori finished alive! and the victory is on Gil dong.you worked very very and very good

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Write a comment...Wow I love this movie to me this is the best movie ever after I love Gil dong he is my crush and love the ending of the movie more powers to your elbow oppa tho I cried a lot in the movie especially when Gil dong was imprisoned and when he was running with uh ri ni well done guys love you all and am expecting more interesting movies can't wait to see my crush Gil dong acting city film he is gonna be very handsome love you oppa

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All Thumbs up for this...so glad that all the Hong bros are alive at the end of the story, contrary to other stories wherein some sidekicks need to die. Happy for Mori, too...altho sad for Jeong-hak who could have become a member of Hong family coz of his fondness with Gil-Hyeon....anyway, thank you so much to everyone who took part in creating such a fantastic story. GOD bless!

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Movie on point.......

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I think it would have made more sense if Mori died since he was responsible for Amogae's downfall. And let's not forget how many innocent people he killed through out the course of the show. To show Gil Dong smiling with him in the end makes no sense whatsoever. Even if he was a product of that corrupt system, one should always be held accountable for the decision to take another's life.

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I still have some thoughts on the first episodes, that I wanted to share. It's about Amogae and Gil-dong's ideas about Ikhwari's shores vs the green mountains. I don't remember if I already said that in some earlier comments but I think the place Ikhwari is taken from the Goryeo song "Cheongsan Byeolgok" (Song of the Green Mountains).

The song expresses the wish to live in two places: "the green mountains" in the first stanza and "by the sea" in the sixth stanza. The "let's live in the green mountains" expresses a wish to live far away from the hardships and daily struggles of society, away from war and hunger. But even though the first stanza speaks of freedom it gets mixed with anxiety and fear in the following stanzas. Even though there are no other men in the green mountains the nights are spent in uneasiness, the fields are swallowed by water, and in the fifth stanza death awaits you in this land of no love and no hate in the form of a stone that wasn't thrown at you but hits you anyway.

So in the sixth stanza, there comes the suggestion to live by the sea, eating seaweed and oysters and clams. The sixth stanza als gives an impression of freedom but in reality seaweed and oysters and clams can't really sustain you. In "Rebel" the impression one gets from the children on Ikhwari's shores that really dig for seaweed and oysters and clams when Gil-dong and Gil-hyun arrive there isn't a happy one. And Gil-hyun also questions the "freedom" they had in Ikhwari when he is older.
The 7th stanza tells of a stag that is fiddling while sitting on a bamboo pole. Kim Kichung suggests in "An Introduction to Classical Korean Literature - From Hyangga to P'ansori" (New York/London 1996), page35, that the stag might refer to an entertainer. And it concludes in the 8th stanza with a clear hint to alcoholism. These two last stanzas remind me of Heo Kyun's (who is said to be the author of Hong Gil-dong though that is not indisputable) telling of a young vagrant minstrel, who seemed happy and alive to the people, but in reality was unhappy and drowned his sorrow in alcohol freezing to death in drunken state on a bridge.

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Greetings, @liina!

I just found your post on Ikhwari and "Song of the Green Mountains." Interesting. So even though Amogae moved his family away from Lord Jo's lands in the mountains, the apparent social and economic freedom of his new home was not all it was cracked up to be. Despite the means of acquiring wealth through mining, weaving, and smuggling at the shoreline beyond the long arm of the law, he might as well be in the woods being stalked by tigers and bears. Rival outlaws reside nearby. They serve powerful political interests. Even worse, the sanctimonious and destitute Madam Park, widow of Lord Jo, arrives with a score to settle, and Choongwongun is only too happy to oblige her.

In the end, "No matter where you go, there you are." So sayeth Buckaroo Banzai. It doesn't matter so much where you are as who you are. There's a lot to be said for being left alone to live in peace, but temporal powers will never allow it.

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@tineybeanie, @dramallama, @liina, @cloveredlioness

I came across this news item about a recently-discovered hanja manuscript of "Hong Gil-dong," and wanted to include it as background. It's pretty exciting, actually. I've included an excerpt. Enjoy! ;-)

17th century novel 'Hong Gil-dong jeon' written in Chinese characters discovered, 04/2419
https://en.yna.co.kr/view/AEN20190424004500315

SEOUL, April 24 (Yonhap) -- A 17th century manuscript of "Hong Gil-dong jeon" written in Chinese characters has been found in a literary collection left by a civil official of the middle Joseon Dynasty (1392-1910), a scholar said Wednesday.

"The Story of Hong Gil-dong," the first Chinese-character version that has been ever found, is different from the novel of the same name written in the Korean language, whose authorship is generally attributed to Heo Gyun (1569-1618), a radical intellectual.

Lee Yoon-suk, a former Korean literary professor at Seoul's Yonsei University, said he found the novel, titled "Roh Hyeok jeon," in the collection of Hwang Il-ho (1588-1641), which was published by a descendant of Hwang in 1937.

According to Lee, Hwang wrote "Roh Hyeok jeon," or "Autobiography of Roh Hyeok," in 1626 when he worked as a justice in the southwestern town of Jeonju...

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