Top 10 most virulent cases of Second Lead Syndrome
by DB Staff
javabeans: Second leaaaaaaads! Where would we be without them?
girlfriday: Happier, probably.
javabeans: But also maybe more bored? Because c’mon, a well-placed second lead (and his unrequited love for the heroine) can provide a certain crackle to a juicy romance, even if sometimes that crackle often comes with big booming pain.
girlfriday: I just mean I’d probably be happier, because I often ship the wrong guy and then end up in a puddle of my own misguided tears. But dramas would be nowhere without second leads. Not all dramas need to have love triangles, but so many dramas do, and when they’re great, they can really drive a romance and make us feel for all the parties involved. It just makes sense that in order to have an effective love triangle, you need a really compelling second lead who has a shot at winning.
javabeans: Of course, this whole concept of “winning” is its own can of worms, since many of these effective second lead stories often present him as the perfect man, the one the heroine really deserves, instead of that mean ol’ hero who always makes her cry. It drives home the idea that nobody “deserves” a person’s love over anybody else, not when love isn’t a quid-pro-quo transaction, but damn if the shows don’t know how to dig that knife of injustice into our hearts with that extra twist.
girlfriday: That twist is mean, but clearly it works, because I’m such a sucker for the pining unrequited love.
javabeans: What’s funny about this phenomenon (which we’ve long been calling Second Lead Syndrome, because it is practically diagnosable at this point) is that half the time I’m convinced that I’m immune to its effects, remembering all the fantastic OTP’s I’ve never once betrayed. Then I remember all the doomed supporting lead romances that broke my heart and there I go, cursing the dramaland fates that make second leads so goddamned appealing.
girlfriday: It really only takes one to make you think that there’s suddenly something wrong with the universe, for not letting the second lead get the girl this time. Even if you’ve watched hundreds of dramas and never cared about a second lead once, there will suddenly be one who steals your heart and leads you to cry foul over the main loveline.
javabeans: Second Lead Syndrome is such a fixture in love stories these days that our Top Ten list had to narrow down the criteria, otherwise our shortlist would have been a hundred names long. In keeping with the theme, our choices were limited to the second leads whose love stories brought us the most pain or gave us the most grief.
girlfriday: Yes, the ones where we were cursing writers. And then of course second lead syndrome leads to shipping wars, which is a whole other dimension of pain.
javabeans: Oh my god, shipping wars. What a way to take your private agony, pour a ton of salt into the gaping wounds, and magnify them for the world to pick at. Why, whyyyyyy? Why do we do this to ourselves, and why do we never learn?
girlfriday: I DON’T KNOW. But I think it’s true that we never learn, because every other year when another Answer Me series comes out, I want to hide in a hole until the war is over and call my mommy to come pick me up.
javabeans: I like my second lead romances a little toothless, myself, because I want to feel pity and sympathy for the poor guy but not actually feel torn up inside about shipping the wrong person with the heroine. Because even when you like Mr. Second Lead better, 99.99% of the time, we all know she’ll end up with the hero instead. (And 0.01% of the time, we cry for days and write angsty lists about it.)
girlfriday: Cue list!
1. Answer Me 1994 (2013)
javabeans: Answer Me 1994 inflicted some serious raw wounds in my heart over its second lead arc, pains I’ve been keeping deep in repression ever since the drama ended, and I have this post to thank for dredging up all those terrible, agonizing, glorious feelings for Chilbongie and the love he was never destined to have. Of course, it wasn’t purely my fault for picking the wrong guy—not when the show did everything in its power to lead us astray, giving us actual hope that he wasn’t, in fact, the doomed second fiddle. That fakeout was part of the reason I felt so viscerally hurt when my ship crashed and burned: Answer Me’s writer understood dramaland’s cliches and rhythms so well that she was able to masterfully circumvent expectations (in a way I don’t think any other writer has been able to do regarding romance). Usually we know who’s getting the girl and who’s getting left in the dust, but 1994 faked us out brilliantly by giving the second lead the hero treatment, keeping the OTP in the shadows while building up the sweet, devoted, puppy-doggish Chilbongie as our heroine’s potential future husband. By the time the realization of the OTP’s direction hit, those of us on Team Chilbongie were already in too deep to get out without suffering damage. I could accept and appreciate Oppa ultimately being the husband, but it was the path to that end that did me in. And as an extra-salty kicker, the fanwars that sprung up over the two ships felt particularly vicious and mean-spirited, so invested did everyone feel in their particular team. This is the drama that made me swear off all future Answer Me seasons for good… and based on good ol’ Number 2 below, it’s a decision I’ve never regretted. Never say I don’t learn anything!
2. Answer Me 1988 (2015-16)
girlfriday: Apparently some of us don’t learn, because even after suffering through the agony of rooting for Chilbongie, I found myself back here, thinking that this time I’d play it safe and be on the right team. The obvious team. The one that wouldn’t make me cry. I had a plan and everything! Of all the installments of the Answer Me franchise, this one really set us up for the ultimate fakeout. Honestly, I never thought in a million years that Ryu Joon-yeol wouldn’t get the girl. He was the classic drama hero through and through, as the prickly boy next door who kept his feelings close to the vest while our heroine flailed over her adorable crush on him. I didn’t even spend the drama feeling bad for him like a regular second lead, because it seemed like such a foregone conclusion that he’d be the heroine’s husband in the future that viewers invented a term for it, which translates to “Obviously Future Husband Ryu Joon-yeol.” Instead, I spent the drama having (totally unnecessary) second lead sympathy pangs for quiet Park Bo-gum, because he was just like Chilbongie, and surely doomed to break my heart. Surely! This was a case where I loved both boys, but just fell for the trap of expecting characters to follow the archetypes we’d seen in drama after drama, which of course the writer played up for maximum twistiness. I might even consider it clever, if not for the fact that Ryu Joon-yeol cut my heart out and left it on a restaurant table sometime in the early ‘90s, next to the confession he gave and then took back. On the upside, I no longer feel feelings.
3. Boys Before Flowers (2009)
javabeans: This drama was practically designed around Second Lead Syndrome, and judging from the sea of tears shed by the sinking ship (the better to float it with?), it utilized it mighty effectively. This drama offered a textbook case of how being a “better” man doesn’t entitle anybody to anybody else’s heart, and second lead Ji-hoo was established as pretty much all of the good things that leading man Jun-pyo wasn’t: thoughtful, kind, gentle, calm, mature. The drama went so far as to declare Ji-hoo the heroine’s soulmate—platonically, of course—and she forged a friendship with him immediately; her relationship with him was as easy as her relationship with the hero was perpetually turbulent, as though two kindred souls need no time deciding that they’re simpatico. Even when the main romance was in full swing, it was often Ji-hoo who understood her thoughts and concerns better than the guy she’d chosen, and to underscore his general decency, he often helped smooth the bumps in their relationship even as he was pining for her heart himself. It was enough to make you figure, Well, if she has this perfect sunbae dying to be with her and still picks the volatile, immature, jealous other dude, then I guess it really is love! Sadly for second leads of dramaland, being Mr. Perfect is no longer enough for true love. Tough crowd!
4. Sungkyunkwan Scandal (2010)
HeadsNo2: There’s something tragic and swoony about the second lead who is the heroine’s constant but silent protector, operating behind the scenes while being hopelessly in love with her. Maybe the appeal of the second lead is the doomed nature of it, the fact that they Can Never Be, even though in Sungkyunkwan Scandal, I really, really wanted them to be. I wanted them to be so badly that my bones will be found on their sunken ship years from now.
In many ways, Moon Jae-shin was the typical hero character—dark, handsome, deep, and a bit of a bad boy. He was the rebel who discovered our heroine’s crossdressing secret and went to any lengths to protect her, all without her knowing. Who wouldn’t want a guardian with that soul-stealing gaze? The way he looked at her with all that hopeless devotion broke my heart, especially since she remained mostly unaware of everything he did for her. It wasn’t easy to protect her secret in an academy full of men, but watching him try, whether by stopping others from discovering her bathing or by wriggling his way in between her and the lead while sleeping was half the fun of the show. Okay, that and the fact that he got a mad case of the hiccups whenever he became romantically aware of her. That was always adorable. *hic*
5. Heirs (2013)
girlfriday: Trying to argue Lee Min-ho vs. Kim Woo-bin in Heirs is a little bit like judging the heights of acorns, as they were both punks in a school full of rich entitled punks. I couldn’t tell you that Kim Woo-bin’s brash high school tyrant was a good person, but I can tell you that I found him more compelling than our hero, whose wardrobe often had more personality than he did.
I guess I have a big soft spot for the thorny teenage rebel who lashes out because he’s harboring so much inner pain. This guy totally deserved to go to jail for half the things he did in the drama, but I was surprised that I often cared more about his character development than anyone else. I couldn’t believe that he thought tormenting a girl and bullying her publicly was the best way to get her attention—like pulling a girl’s pigtails, but in a violent, criminal fashion. But then when he started following her around and trying to do nice things for her (and failing miserably, as being nice is a behavior he actually had to learn for the first time), I found myself moved by his tiny steps toward humanity. He seemed so starved for friendship and love, and even though he always went about asking for it in the wrongest way possible, I really wanted him to get his happy ending.
6. You’re Beautiful (2009)
HeadsNo2: The force was so strong with this second lead ship that it almost felt like fanservice when another drama (You’ve Fallen For Me) later cast the two actors as romantic leads, which at least soothed those fans who’d been heartbroken by the lack of a happy ending for Shin-woo and Mi-nyeo. In You’re Beautiful, which also featured a second lead intent on protecting the heroine’s crossdressing secret in silence, Shin-woo stole hearts by just being there for our heroine as she tried to navigate the world of boy bands—a far cry from her previous calling as a nun. His approach toward looking after the naive and adorably childlike heroine was the completely opposite of the hero, who fit the cold-on-the-outside-squishy-on-the-inside mold to a tee. Perhaps this personality divide is a large reason for the fandom divide between the two love interests, since both extremes were available to root for, even if we all know one of those sides was futile. Despite knowing the secret of her true identity, Shin-woo formed a friendship with the heroine and treated her as one of the boys, and always made sure to be available to step in to help her, whether she knew it or not—whether it was providing a shoulder to sleep on, carrying heavy equipment for her, or bearing the fact that she liked his bandmate more than him. Such is the fate of doomed second leads, sigh.
7. Who Are You—School 2015 (2015)
girlfriday: This one still makes me so mad! I’m not often confused about why a heroine chooses the leading man, since there’s usually enough in the drama to back the OTP when all is said and done, but in Who Are You—School 2015, I actually had a hard time understanding her choice. It was a case where I had to chalk it up to something she had seen in Nam Joo-hyuk’s character offscreen, because it wasn’t a thing I felt and could relate to. It didn’t help that second lead Yook Sung-jae had a very natural rapport with her, making all their scenes sparkle with warmth, or that he was so adorable about his puppy crush on her. He was the first person to recognize the heroine for herself and not her twin sister, the one who protected her from being found out as an imposter, and the first person to call her by her real name—something that genuinely moved me, and made me think that he was the only person who saw the real her. In a story all about finding the courage to live as herself, that mattered to me a great deal. When unni came back, it provided us with the perfect solution—two happy endings!—but they sank two ships instead. Why? Why would they do that? Why would anyone do that on purpose? Clearly I’m still not over it. I will never be over it!
8. Chuno (2010)
HeadsNo2: You know that love triangle that still gives you goosebumps, where just thinking of it makes you want to rewatch an entire show all over again? Chuno was that show for me, with its epic scope and equally epic love story at its center: a slave hunter, destined to hunt down the love of his life, who had once been a slave in his household. And while you desperately wanted him to find the love of his life, said love was completely oblivious to his undying devotion. An interesting thing happened as the show went on, when we began to realize that the hero wouldn’t reach her in time—she had, at that point, fallen for another man, a fellow slave on the run who had once been a deeply principled general. It was impossible not to fall for this classically heroic character, the direct antithesis to what antihero Dae-gil had become, even though the conflict of loving both characters at once (and wanting them both to get what they wanted, which was unfortunately mutually exclusive) was torture of the best kind. Her love story with the former general had a depth of feeling in a stoic and understated sort of way, until the pairing felt natural, even under their unnatural circumstances. And when the heroine eventually reunited with her first love, we saw a rare case of the second lead’s virtues winning out, which was a rewarding and bittersweet experience all at once. I’m still so torn!
9. Autumn Fairy Tale (2000)
HeadsNo2: I watched Autumn Fairy Tale retroactively after embarking on a Won Bin marathon, which is relatively easy since we’re going on seven years since he’s been in anything (Just be in a movie, Oppa! Any movie. Please?), so admittedly I saw the show through a slightly different lens than viewers who caught the original run. But both then and now, Won Bin’s character fits the bill of the the quintessential aggressive second lead, playing second fiddle to the perfect and amazing hero and definitely not taking it well.
So maybe he could sometimes veer toward the dangerous, with loads of wrist-grabbing and trapping the heroine against walls, but the shows of aggression and tears were just his way of saying that he loved the heroine, even when he was sometimes kind of maybe demanding that she love him back. I’m realizing now that he doesn’t sound quite so good on paper, but he was oddly captivating in the show, and you wanted him to get the girl because he wanted it so very badly. All my memories of him in Autumn Fairy Tale involve angry tears, low growling, and him trying to buy her love with all his money, but he was such a driving force for the show that I couldn’t help but continue to watch for him. He never stood a chance, and that was part of the angst of it—but like all melodramas of that period, we got to enjoy his paaaaain, which there was never any shortage of. Were we all masochists back then? Are we still, and is that why we fall in love with second leads?
10. My Girl (2005-6)
javabeans: Ah, what a throwback to the early days of Hallyu. My Girl certainly wasn’t the first trendy rom-com to invoke Second Lead Syndrome, but its fanbase’s reaction to its passionate second lead (thanks, Lee Jun-ki!) felt unusually strong for the time, and crested just as the first wave of Hallyu was really taking off and popularizing Second Lead Syndrome as a phenomenon. I confess to never succumbing to the second lead’s pull in this drama (I was loyal to our OTP, through and through), but I couldn’t leave My Girl off this list—not when Team Lee Jun-ki’s vehement and impassioned embrace of his character and doomed ship were so strong that I was amazed and a little bewildered by it. Granted, a large part of that appeal came from the actor more than the character, who was, on paper, familiar stuff: the nice, friendly guy who befriends the heroine when the hero doesn’t appreciate her. Even though I didn’t feel its thrall, I had to acknowledge that it was a powerful force, driven by the fire-versus-ice contrast between him and his hero best friend. Moreover, his pushiness was balanced by his basic good nature, offering us a welcome new development in the trajectory of the aggressive second lead—he felt emotions strongly, but took them out mostly on himself, rather than imposing them on a heroine who didn’t want them. It was a refreshing display of an ever-slightly-more-evolved Second Lead, and I’ll always remember him (and his mad elfin-fairy hair!) fondly.
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Tags: 1 show to rule them all, Answer Me 1988, Answer Me 1994, Autumn Fairy Tale, Boys Before Flowers, Chuno, Dramabeans Top 10, featured, Heirs, lists, My Girl, Sungkyunkwan Scandal, Who Are You–School 2015, You're Beautiful
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1 car148
January 31, 2017 at 3:10 AM
Precisely on top of my list, My Girl, Heirs, You're beautiful and School 2015..
And ya, me too, I will never get over School 2015!
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DBRooter
January 31, 2017 at 4:53 AM
I had to drop School 2015 because I couldn't stand NJH's acting and moreover when I realised that YSJ won't get the girl I dropped the show!
And yah! It's Top 10 SLS this time.. I posted a wish list on top ten list of SLS in the last Top ten article and here it is granted immediately ?
For over 100s of kdramas that I watched, in almost everything I shipped the main OTP. Then Sungyunkwan Scandal happened. I just couldn't get over the fact that MJS didn't get the girl. Even then I watched the entire show consoling myself that the main lead isn't too bad.
Then happened Reply 1994, I rooted for chilbongie and I had to quit the show after ep15 when someone spoiled that he won't get the girl. It's quite interesting that despite being a non-quitter when it comes to kdramas I quit 2 shows because the guy I root for doesn't get the girl. In heirs too I wanted KWB to be happy. He is the only thing I cared about in the drama.
Except for Chuno ( which I didn't watch because JB saud it lacks soul - something that is very important for me) and autumn fairy tale I have watched all the shows in the list . Except for the 3 second leads I said about, I was ok with all the others shows OTP.
I thought SANDGLASS would be there in the list since the show garnered interest and the story was tweaked a little because of the Second lead. But since it's relatively old it must have been dropped.
Good work dramabeans!!!
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sfgirl
January 31, 2017 at 1:25 PM
Same, Sungkyunkwan Scandal was my first brush with second lead syndrome. Since then Reply 1994 and 1988 have happened and its sickness that crops up off and on!
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junny
January 31, 2017 at 1:59 PM
Chuno was a pool of angst. I was shipping Dae-gil and Seol-hwa, but that ship sank horribly too. :(
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alasecond
January 31, 2017 at 2:31 PM
wow i feel lucky...
have had second lead syndrome only in one drama - and in all possible variants of that drama..
how can anyone like jun pyo over hanazawa rui..
Boys over flower, every time i hope the story will have alternate ending but alas, korea, japan, taiwan,a nd india (sort of until they changed the whole story).. all disappointed
And then, hwarang is happening.. i don't really ship hyng shik with go ara.. but i just want him not pining or being left out.. just make him fall i n love with anyone who will reciprocate
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momosan
February 1, 2017 at 8:55 AM
My Mom watched Sungyunkwan Scandal with me (her preference being for historical shows, she calls it "that school show"). Her version of SLS was a repeated "I really don't see why she doesn't pick that nice Jae Shin boy." LOL!
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nuriucup
January 31, 2017 at 5:19 AM
Honestly, I don't want to ship anybody in The Heirs. I just want the heroine to be independent and can stand on her own feet.
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JuicyFeet
January 31, 2017 at 5:33 AM
Holy crap, yes! She was like some sad little doll being passed around for pretty much the entirety of that show. I just want her to get away from all of them and be her own person.
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megan
January 31, 2017 at 8:00 AM
You literally put it there. That’s exactly what I felt the whole damn drama, the girl to be independent and happy on her own and become a horror movie director or whatever. Both first and second male leads were complete asshats and they needed to grow up before starting anything with anyone. Sadly, part of the fandom on here and some other sites were shitting on the one character that did not deserve it...
For Young Do’s defense, at least he had character development. KES must really love Kim Woo Bin
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monologue
January 31, 2017 at 12:41 PM
Pretty much all Kim Eun Sook female leads are like this (maybe not secret garden). I pm dont watch one of her dramas now unless I'm in the mood for a ridic romance novel cliche type story
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⭐ Sera The Ms Temper ⭐
January 31, 2017 at 7:19 PM
But at least after Heirs i. e DOTS and Goblin, she no longer made the female lead's character a weak character. I think she did aware and took the viewers' opinion on Heirs.
skelly
February 1, 2017 at 5:44 AM
City Hall isn't. Everyone seems to forget about this one, but it was exactly the opposite of the Secret Garden story arc: as the story progresses, the heroine gets stronger, more confident, more willing to take risks. She is also the only person who is able to help the hero become a better person.
Andrea
February 1, 2017 at 9:47 AM
@skelly
Oh City Hall...how I love you. It is so hard to wrap my mind around the fact that Kim Eun-sook -- the writer of Secret Garden, aka the k-drama that contains one of the most rape-y scenes I've ever witnessed in a dram -- wrote City Hall, because the female character is so wonderfully complex, layered, competent, and independent. She gets more and more confident as the series goes on, and the male lead likes that about her (*gasp!*).
I once read an interview with Kim Eun-sook (that I cannot find now, even after an exhaustive Google search... >_<...) where she said that she doesn't write dramas like City Hall any more because it got such low ratings compared to her other dramas. Which is sad and frustrating and makes me shake my fist at the patriarchy. (ノಠ益ಠ)ノ
thelady
February 3, 2017 at 6:06 AM
all the guys in Heirs were creeps, I wanted her to escape and live her own life
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lil
February 22, 2017 at 4:48 AM
lol! couldn't have said it better
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Lin_K
February 4, 2017 at 6:32 AM
For me, what made me care for YD was the way Kim Woo Bin played him. Totally KWB! YD had personality; he was a terrible jerk and bully but KWB's facial expressions and dialogue delivery were great. And YD had character development, unlike many other characters in that drauma.
On a side note, I got some really great friends from commenting on that drama. We had a huge shipping war and there was a handful of us supporting YD. We were crazy to sit there and reply back to every single one of those posts that countered us. Wasted so much time and energy but at that time, it was what me and the other YD fans wanted to do. After it was all over, we private messaged each other, became friends on fb, video chatted over the years, and a few of us are meeting this year. It's gonna be so awesome! So some good things definitely come out of shipping wars! And I am sorry to anyone whom we may have offended at that time. We are nice, emotionally stable people. Just went a little crazy at that time. Lol :) We were young. *Sighs*
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ap
January 31, 2017 at 7:48 AM
precisely, precisely! SCHOOL 2015 JUST WHY
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Martin J Simwaba
January 31, 2017 at 10:26 AM
On my top 10 list, School, Who Are You and Boys Before Flowers ranks from 1 to 7. I don't know "which" out-ranks which, and i don't care. Up to this moment i can't accept the fact that those second leads were actually second leads.
BOYS BEFORE FLOWERS: JI WOO was the first character i loved and i was so invested that i forgot that he wasn't the hero of the story. And JUN PYO made me hate Lee Min Ho until "The Heirs" where i liked him a bit. I became his fan after "Personal Taste".
SCHOOL WHO ARE YOU: I still can't understand why the blonde guy was second lead or why our heroine never fell for him? Because the lead didn't do anything to make me root for him.
8. HE'S BEAUTIFUL
9. TO THE BEAUTIFUL YOU
10. MY GIRL
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Stranger
January 31, 2017 at 1:26 PM
My Girl is definitely on top of my list too. Reply 88 was annoying because in fact she ended up with 2nd lead instead of 1st lead!
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alasecond
January 31, 2017 at 2:33 PM
What makes RJY the first lead?
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deyaa
January 31, 2017 at 8:32 PM
because the story is from his pov from 1st till ep 18.
not even from the male lead.
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claire
January 31, 2017 at 9:16 PM
he basically disappeared in the 2nd half of the show. the story was in the girl's pov.
alasecond
January 31, 2017 at 11:48 PM
agree with claire.. at no point is story from RJY's pov.. it was always DS'ss tory..
and in context of setting let's say hers and her husbnad's
thelady
February 3, 2017 at 6:13 AM
There really are only about 4 episodes in the first half that focused on RJY's character's feelings, I feel like his shippers exaggerate his perspective on the show
nomad
February 25, 2017 at 6:18 PM
...and so the fanship war begins again...
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Samdong
March 3, 2017 at 9:51 AM
oh please, reply series always cast the first lead for the first time and always tailored the character around its personality. PBG was casted first and the story were never focused on his character especially in the second half of the show. I hope his shippers would already healed by now though
I am sorry if my english is bad
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Orl
January 31, 2017 at 4:03 PM
School 2015 was traumatic. At least the drama made Yook Sungjae famous.
Anyway I was kind of expecting a Top 10 SLS. Next I suggest a Top 10 Mane of Glory lol.
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Viki
February 1, 2017 at 1:56 AM
Me to the thousand!!! Still gives me agony thinking about it after 2 years!!! I swear the writer was on crack during the last episode.
Also 1988 was ruined by the leaked script...I know ryujunyeol+hyeri belong together in real 88world!
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divyrus
February 1, 2017 at 3:35 AM
Wait, what!?
There was leaked script in which RJY got the girl!????
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thelady
February 3, 2017 at 6:15 AM
Hyeri's character says in the 2nd episode that she wants Bogum to grow up so she can marry him. He was always the end game.
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lil
February 22, 2017 at 4:50 AM
yeah, what?! 1 order of goss, to go, please
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Lin_K
February 4, 2017 at 6:36 AM
Me three, I will never get over School 2015! It was mind-boggling how they messed that one up. The production team was on crack when they filmed the last two or three episodes. Lol.
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2 kooriyuki
January 31, 2017 at 3:11 AM
I got myself vaccinated after drowning on the Chilbong ship. No more SLS!
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mary
January 31, 2017 at 5:44 AM
LMAO
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Mel
January 31, 2017 at 9:22 AM
Chilling---heart breaker!!!
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Ga
January 31, 2017 at 8:17 PM
Are you sure there was no error in THAT vaccine's storage and handling? Be careful, chingu, we never know if we are immune enough for another future SLS attack(s) *deepcry*
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Brasslefrat
January 31, 2017 at 11:37 PM
I still have PTSD ever since Chillbongie. The pain that caused me was unreal! I did the smart just like JB and swore future Answer Me seasons for good! Happy I did it, cause I would have been burned with AM 88.
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thekors
February 1, 2017 at 4:45 PM
SLS from 'Reply 1994' has scarred me for life. I still can't watch YYS in any other drama.
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lil
February 22, 2017 at 4:51 AM
me neither, his face, his voice - it all kills me
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nomad
February 25, 2017 at 6:21 PM
Me, too! The moment I read the title of this article, I said "CHILBONGIIEEEEEEEE!". I'm like GF though, I didn't learn and of course got burned again in AM88. Though never like SLS with Chilbong. Ugh. It's like the first break up or something, I cannot get over the pain, ever.
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thelady
February 3, 2017 at 6:15 AM
Chillbongie, I just wished they hadn't made him so pitiful and dragged out his suffering.
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Shannie
February 3, 2017 at 6:28 PM
I was devastated when Chilbong didn't get the girl. After that, I swore off the "Answer Me" franchises. That's the first time, I'd ever gotten SLS to that degree. I was so pissed and the fanwars that broke out..........oh my. I can't go through that again.
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3 lychee
January 31, 2017 at 3:12 AM
Only Chilbong supporters would say that the writers "kept the otp in the shadows" when Trash being the husband was painfully obvious from the start. The girl never even considered Chilbong as a romantic interest.
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Chilbonger
January 31, 2017 at 3:33 AM
I was a hardcore Team Chilbongie, even joining the fanwars and all that jazz, and yet I dont understand how there are people /today/ who still think the writer mislead us. We were all beyond delusional, Trash was designed to be the husband from the get-go, it wasn't even a matter of clues, he was the only option and the only male character who had any development with NaJung.
I waited until the very LAST episode with the hopes that Chilbongie would be the husband, it was ridiculous I tell you but a nice wake up call to never let my crazy bias for a cute boy blind me again hahaha
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deyaa
January 31, 2017 at 8:36 PM
i was team trash, not because of the actor or anything ( hence i like both), but more because of the story. the sw tried to lead us with a lot of hint from both candidate, the only one hint that i know that trash is the husband is because najung never wavering since ep 1 till the last. even when they're separate for few years after broke up, she never did. so its unlikely that she suddenly jump to chilbongie...
well, unlike duksoen who's jump to everyone who her friends said they likes her. amongst the female reply character i like najung...and then shiwon (she needs time...but she got there and never waver even separation).
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Floating Castles
January 31, 2017 at 3:37 AM
I agree completely. The only people in love with Chilbong were the audience.
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coby
January 31, 2017 at 3:51 AM
I still call YYS Chilbongie. In fact SLS is synonymous to Chilbongie... waaaaa!
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Melona
January 31, 2017 at 4:26 AM
Same here. I love Chilbongie character so much that in order to preserve my fond memories of YYS, I dropped RDTK because I just couldn't stand DJ (at least in the first few episodes; I didn't hang around long enough to know if he experienced character growth by the end of the drama).
Every time someone mentions SLS, my first thought will be Chilbongie, oh how I wept with him in the stadium.
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jaderjylsk
January 31, 2017 at 4:38 AM
Ah, the same way I wept with JW outside the concert hall..
This post is dredging up painful memories..lol
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boomboompow
January 31, 2017 at 4:19 AM
Ah this is still fresh from my mind as I only watched R94 for Yoo Yeon Seok after RDTK. I fell hard for Oppa-ya regardless of my bias before watching the show, and he is definitely who the writers had in mind as Husband from the start. It's a shame they try to keep the fanwars going by throwing breadcrumbs so I get why Chillbongie-shipper are pissed. And they just had to up their game in R88 by setting up PBG to be Chilbong just to fake that again!
Despite this troll of a writer, I LOVE Reply 1994 and it holds a special place in my heart. I don't know if it's the setting, Jung Woo, or / and the overall casts, I am head over heels with it while the other Reply series did not impress me.
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jaderjylsk
January 31, 2017 at 4:32 AM
Ditto! 94 is my fave, because the group of friends were much more colorful and amusing. I loved everyone of their story on its own. Plus I felt that Trash, NJ and Chilbong's characters were more fleshed out
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bd5
February 2, 2017 at 2:56 AM
The '94 gang is my fave as well - such a fun group.
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Tabloharu
February 3, 2017 at 8:55 AM
Ikr, what i love the most in r94(my fav of all three) is because of their friendship.
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Reena
January 31, 2017 at 5:23 AM
I promised myself that I won't go through the SLS route after what happened with Chilbong but I got caught up in it again after R88 with RJY... haha.
Out of all of the Reply series so far, 1988 stood out for me (with 1997 being a close second).
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alasecond
January 31, 2017 at 2:37 PM
agree.. absolutely love 1988..
i think the friendship were done really well and the whole community family theme was super touching.
Plus don't knwo about others, but being an international viewer there was an added excitement in witnessing their 80s and hearing from parents of our 80s ... and how similar people from two very different countries can be..
how much humanpsychology, behavior and society.. despite lack of globalization had so much of an overlap..
Its nostalgia at its best
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nomad
February 25, 2017 at 6:23 PM
Agreed, Reena!
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missjb
January 31, 2017 at 5:45 AM
well thanks God I've never watched reply 1994 lol.
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arsdetha
January 31, 2017 at 1:55 PM
+10000
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diyaa
February 1, 2017 at 6:52 AM
+1000000
I still did not finish reply 1988 because of spoiler ending huwarrrrgghh...heartbroken for rjy
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jaderjylsk
January 31, 2017 at 4:29 AM
I'd have to agree. Reply 1994 was quite obvious because the writer let us in on what the characters were feeling so you'd know that Na Jung only had eyes for Oppa. It was really just a matter of whether Trash would choose her. And we got our answer right in the middle of the drama.
R88 on the other hand, was the most epic fakeout and I'm still bitter at the writer for it. It was quite genius really, and the lesson learned of having the courage to go after what you want is deeply embedded in my memory. But it was just so cruel. Cos literally we only get the reveal right at the last 2 episodes cos the writer never gave us a glimpse into the heroine's mind and heart. So you have 18 episodes of building Jung Hwan's character and feelings in our hearts and then tearing it apart so it feels extra painful. We didn't even get as much peek into Taek's perspective for crying out loud cos it was all on JW! (Dang the feelings are coming back..lol). I probably wouldn't have felt as heartbroken if the writer had leveled the playing field in giving us equal amounts of why Taek would get the girl, so us the viewers would see both sides.
I am forever scarred by that drama, it was one of the most heart-breaking feeling I have ever felt in my life.
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Grace Yoon
January 31, 2017 at 5:21 AM
I guess it's my Literature background poring years and years of study of the different genres that I have become "context clues driven" whenever I read a material or watch a drama or film.
I watched Reply 1988 because I wanted to understand the hoopla about the Reply series...why these were raking in the ratings. And then I learned that the husband-hunt angle played a big role in its addictiveness. From the very first episode, loads of clues or hints were pointing to Choi Taek and I was not even Team SunTaek. The reason, I think, why many were trolled into thinking that Jung Hwan was going to be the husband was that he epitomized the "Cliche Main Lead" and that his love-plot with Duk Seon was the typical KDrama Romance Trope. But as Director Shin Won Ho pointed out, it has been Choi Taek from the start. I agree with him after watching and rewatching the episodes even noting down loads of hints and clues given along the way. PD Shin should know. To direct the script, you have to literally chew and digest it.
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redfox
January 31, 2017 at 6:44 AM
I was sure it was Taek from when Deok Sun said to drink milk and marry her, but somewhere in the middle it seemed everyone was being dead sure of a script change that made Jung Hwan the husband for certain. I thought maybe they have seen the script somehow or seen hints. it is not that I shipped Taek, but I thought he would die without Deok Sun by his side - and Jung Hwan was just slightly boring, so I didnt much care for him
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jaderjylsk
January 31, 2017 at 8:55 AM
I do agree there were context clues (the sweater, the cigarettes, etc) but after watching 1994, I looked at them more as instruments used to mislead the viewers.
I was more invested in how the characters were going to be fleshed out: why would DS fall in love with JW or Taek? How were they going to show us the angst in DS' mind on who she'd feel more for? How would one hero outwin the other or how were they gonna present that one hero is better for DS than the other? I was hoping they'd go that route to make it better than 1994 where the husband was quite obvious.
I think it was even quite a disservice to Taek's character that the writer spent more time on JW, moreover that in the last 2 episodes his and DS's love story seemed rushed over. Even though I am solid on team JW, I can also see why Taek would be good for DS - but I came with that conclusion myself (like redfox mentioned, I also felt that in the end it was Taek because he needed her more). However, I was hoping that the drama would validate it and SHOW it to us. I don't even recall that we were ever shown Deok Sun's mind to see WHY it was one over the other. I think it would have been better that way
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claire
January 31, 2017 at 9:28 PM
I was team Taek for the fact that the writer seem to insist on inserting him somewhere even if the person itself did not show up. My biggest clue was the scenes where the gang listened to his matches, I mean why add that if he was just a throwaway 2nd lead?
I know more about Taek's life than the rest of the boys. We've spent time with him in China. We know all his matches. We know his origins(the first lead backstory). We spent more time on his father's second marriage. We know about his baduk friends/colleagues. Taek just screamed first lead to me.
alasecond
January 31, 2017 at 2:42 PM
true that.. all reply series have actually been quite obvious from the very beginning abt who will get the girl..
i guess as story develops and we get invested in characters, some of us forget abt the little things that happened in earlier episode and brush them aside hoping or considering it to be insignificant..
Its the feeling i get when I read Prisoner of Azkaban - who could think of anything beyond the obvious when a cat chases a mouse..
a cat is meant to chase a mouse.... that's nature.. its natural.. it is logical..
only to not realize that even though the world feels real, it is not.. its a bbok on fantasy on magic. and with a central flavor of mystery.. SO NO.. nothing is obvious
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thelady
February 3, 2017 at 6:27 AM
I agree with this. Junghwan was the typical drama tsundere so people rooted for him. As early as the 2nd episode Dukseon told Taek to drink his milk so he could grow up and marry her. Also Dukseon's mom said in the same episode that she wanted Taek as a her son law. Dukseon only liking Junghwan cause her friend's suggested it was another big clue cause we'd seen her do that before. I didn't want to choose a side cause I know how the Reply series works and the fandom was so adamant that Junghwan was the husband, as early as the 4th episode the fandom was arguing that Junghwan was it.
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sancheezy
January 31, 2017 at 6:10 AM
I think Reply 1988 is more clear because he never even confess and jughwan is because they give him 1st screen time,
as much as I think it's heartbroken, I can't root for love that never get confess, not because I am not the underdog lover but if you can't cross the line to be uncomfortable before having a relationship, then you didn't deserve it,
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LoveSeoInGuk
January 31, 2017 at 7:31 AM
Totally agree about Reply 1988...the audience were deceived!!! The older versions were nothing like the younger versions and till the last minute they made RYJ's character seem closer to the older guy! I could not imagine PBG's character doing the things he did..I am still bitter!!
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LW
January 31, 2017 at 2:45 PM
I joined R88 party too late. This is my first Reply series.I even knew who the hubby was before starting. It was like watching sixth sense knowing all about Bruce. No surprise! There was the obvious clues every episode which is always pointing to CT, which everyone dismissed as trolling. There was concrete clues which was pointing to CT (like smoking, left hand), everybody dismissed CT, argued JH will start it later. JH's only aim in life is to fulfill every dream of his hyung. There is no way in hell, he will start smoking knowing his brother's health issue, unless it was on his hyung's list. Then there is the hung up on adult actor! When DS and Bora don't resemble the adults actors, viewers agreed with the director choice, either blamed it on acting or saying people change.But when the same happened with the husband, they felt cheated by director. The biggest argument was that husband is not shy, more outgoing compared to CT, sure it can be CT.The only times that boy ever raised his voice to audible level was when he is either with DS or SW. They are his safe house. He is more than what he is with others. I can go on and on.But I will be beating the dead horse.
It was frustrating when people dismisses every CT clue trolling. It is even more maddening when CT fans kept saying we know the husband is JH, but we like CT. I was even disappointed with GF. I am a one dimensional viewer, just follows the writers wherever they lead me. I kept questioning this is so obvious, even I can see, why cant she? Oh! the frustration of not able to vent feelings when you join after the party is over. Thanks Dramabeans for giving a venting medium! I trusted all the Reply fans on how awesome this director and writer duo is.How brilliantly they tell the story, how well they structure their story telling, the colors, the dolls, how the weave the sport whether baseball or baduk into their integral story telling. It was exactly how everyone said, the director/writer were brilliant. And then the same people left me confused when they complained about the duo's story telling. It is funny people who complained about cliched dramas is complaining still about a drama which breaks out the cliche. I dont know how I would have felt if I didnt know who the hubby was before watching. But I would recommend people to calm their wounded heart and watch this again to see why CT truly is the husband.
This is wonderful story telling and will be forever one of my favorite. CT will always be the sunshine in my reply universe.
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jaderjylsk
January 31, 2017 at 3:22 PM
Actually, all these only mean ONE thing, that the drama as a whole was so brilliant that viewers are still as impassioned about them after all this time :)
It's OK to be dead set on whatever ship you were on and it's def not something against the other character, it just goes to show how Jung Hwan and Taek resonated differently to the viewers. Obviously the ship that didn't sail will ALWAYS be disappointed..lol
As for the context clues, myself (and maybe others) were burned by Reply 1994, if you were to watch it. Cos that was the Reply series which used the MOST context clues (sooo many) to make the viewers swing back and forth as to who they think was the husband to the point that I stopped relying on them and focused more on the characters' feelings. It just so happened that it worked that way cos my ship sailed. XD
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redfox
February 1, 2017 at 1:02 AM
I wasn´t frustrated that they missed the hints, I was more frustrated that some people were so convinced it was going to be JungPal that they even claimed to know for sure that Taek would die. that was wayyyy over the line.
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thelady
February 3, 2017 at 8:56 AM
I've heard it is easier to see that Taek is the husband if you watch it without participating in fandom. The drama fans were the ones who rushed to declare Junghwan the husband before the midpoint of the drama.
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jomo143
January 31, 2017 at 5:41 AM
Absolutely, Trash Oppa was the man from the get go.
My take on that is we Chilbongies wanted what he wanted. If he wasn't going to give up, we weren't either. Despite the pain, disappointment and sorrow we were all creating for ourselves.
As someone who was a 2nd IRL for YEARS, his experience was a catharsis for mine - decades after I "lost" the guy I was never really ever going to have.
Was it really more than two years ago? IT STILL HURTS!!!!!! Look at this face!
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Sancheezy
January 31, 2017 at 6:06 AM
I think the writer tease the viewer so much,
they make a character that so endearing and you badly wish that his wish will get accepted,
he is the only character that didn't have his own arc and his story is only about najeoung so I don't think he doesn't have any chance at all,
what makes his character becomes way sad is because after all, he seems to be more of a plot device to make the couple together,
The reality that Najeong never consider him only more apparent in the later episode because the writer keep her reaction a secret but then they resurface his chance after showing how najeong and oppa had a realistic broke up,
the otp was never determined cause it's always the oppa's decision that change from ep to ep,
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boomboompow
January 31, 2017 at 8:39 AM
I think Najung never considers Chilbong at all. She is worried sick on the day of the accident, but I feel like she would feel and act the same if that was any of the other boys from the house.
The only time I waver and thought Chilbong has a chance is when Najung and Oppa broke up because I thought by that time, she would have already gotten over Oppa. They did broke up and not talking to each other for months (or was it 2 years?).
For about a episode or half, I did ship Najung and Chillbong, because I mean, the guy has liked her for years, it's about time he got a chance! The new year moment was also swoony.
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Dramaqueen
January 31, 2017 at 12:26 PM
I would have agreed with this, except that I watched Answer Me 1988 thinking that it was "painfully obvious" that Jung-Hwan was endgame. And then I ended up with real life tears during that restaurant scene. I couldn't even watch the final episode. Now I understand Team Chilbong, and will probably not watch the next installment of the Answer Me series until after it's done airing, so that I can go into it without ever boarding the wrong ship.
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nchoe
January 31, 2017 at 1:51 PM
And only the viewer whose ship was sailed would say that "the writer didn't try to miss lead the viewers at all" or "the answer is obvious". LOL.
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anglvue
February 1, 2017 at 12:44 AM
hahaha....agree....
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thelady
February 3, 2017 at 6:17 AM
l liked Chilbong but once She said she wanted to marry her oppa and it was revealed Trash was not her brother it was obvious he was the husband.
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4 hailaft
January 31, 2017 at 3:13 AM
i still refuse to acknowledge jung hwan as second lead (he's just the main lead who didn't get the girl!!!) but damn girlfriday words really hit close to home on so many levels.
Yea, it's been a year and I'm still mourning over Jung Hwan's broken heart thankyouverymuch
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darcylove
January 31, 2017 at 3:19 AM
I feet your heart.... Junghwan ship till the end... Couldn't really watch Park Bogum with Hyeri in the end, I skipped the finale.....That much I loved Junghwan and hoped he would be the husband..... Felt like the writer really wanted a twist and gave one at the end.... Not a really thought out twist....
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sorim
January 31, 2017 at 3:22 AM
Omg yes me too! I still haven't watched the last two episodes. For me the drama ended at ep 18. Sigh ?
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frabbycrabsis loves KBS Drama Specials
January 31, 2017 at 6:34 AM
Wow. I can't believe I'm not the only one. I never made it past that confession - it broke me!
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rentenmann *SWAG*
January 31, 2017 at 7:35 PM
I'm not one to cry very often, but R88 left me having to pause to sob through the last three episodes. I haven't re-watched that series; I just can't do it. Same for why I never started School 2015 and stopped watching R94. Sob!!!!
jellybine
January 31, 2017 at 4:17 AM
While watching the show, I just loved everybody's story that I thought that I couldn't care less who gets the girl because I really love everyone. Until the time that Jung-hwan made that confession and take it back, I was really convinced that I was okay with him not getting the girl. That scene totally broke my heart.
I was in denial in the remaining of the story. I had my mouth gaping when it ended, still in disbelief that Jung-hwan didn't get the girl.
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Andie
January 31, 2017 at 7:35 AM
I still can't bring myself to watch the last three episodes of Answer me 1988, my broken heart has not yet healed. I loved the whole group of characters as a community and their stories were so warm and touching so it makes me sad that the ending was such a bitter one for me. As much as I enjoyed all of the Answer me series as i was watching them, 1997 is the only one i can go back and re-watch repeatedly. I very rarely have Second Lead Syndrome, in fact I can probably count on one hand the times it has happened to me but this writer has managed to do it to me two out of three dramas. I will have to think very seriously about whether I want to watch another one of these dramas if they make another one.
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nomad
February 25, 2017 at 6:31 PM
@andy, I totally relate with you. R97 is the only one I can rewatch in its own entirety too. I have rewatched R88, but I skipped the last episode because the fact that the whole families moved apart from that alley broke me like no SLS would ever do. R88 is my favorite reply series because of the whole family thing, and to not have that...well, it's hard for me to grasp.
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Lena S.
January 31, 2017 at 8:37 AM
I couldn't watch the finale either.
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kinac
January 31, 2017 at 3:29 AM
Same! I prettymuch stopped watching it as soon as i figured out he wasn't going to get the girl. I mean.. thr personality if older husband was no way taekie!! I still feel so betrayed by this show TT_____TT
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darcylove
January 31, 2017 at 3:32 AM
True.... Too much personality difference....
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Ammy
January 31, 2017 at 6:36 AM
R88 became the biggest unintentional troll ever. It was too clear that JH is the one until around ep 7/8 when they suddenly stopped showing bits of present scenes and then came the epic personality change of the present husband who is meek and dependable on his wife.
I too din't watch the last two episodes till date as its nothing but PD's blunder for me.
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dramamad
January 31, 2017 at 7:59 AM
Havent watched the last2 eps either. Im taking a leaf out of JB book and swearing off any further Answer me series (thank God i havent watched 94)
alasecond
January 31, 2017 at 2:49 PM
I don't know.. i never felt that personality change..
JH's character does mirror PBG's.. the banter, the teasing, going alpha and going beta , superman, or clark as and when and what heroine needs..
bluetoile
January 31, 2017 at 4:23 PM
I agree. It was so jarring and definitely felt like the writer changed their mind about who they wanted the husband to be. I could be wrong, but I think it may have also been partly due to Park Bo Gum's steadily rising popularity at the time.
thelady
February 3, 2017 at 9:55 AM
but Junghwan was never a smoker or left handed?
thelady
February 3, 2017 at 9:56 AM
please stop pushing this false reality that the writer changed the ending because of Bogum's popularity, there is no evidence of that.
elric
January 31, 2017 at 3:31 AM
I only watched the first episode R88 and skimmed the recaps but his speech about fate and timing gets me everytime. Here's a part of dramabeans recap of that infamous episode.
I'M AN UGLY MESS. Cheers to us who missed our chances.
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jaderjylsk
January 31, 2017 at 4:42 AM
Re-reading this makes me want to cry ugly tears...lol
What he said was just perfect, and the more painful because it was true, he didn't get her because he didn't take the chances.
That was for me the best lines in all the dramas I've watched
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LoveSeoInGuk
January 31, 2017 at 7:35 AM
Crying a River on Jung Hwa not getting the girl. That was just cruel.
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anglvue
February 1, 2017 at 1:02 AM
thanks for reposting that!
this is the translation that resonated with me. i never forgot those red lights...
it doesn't hurt as much as it used to because time has really helped me come to terms with the ending but it's those unsuspecting moments when someone mentions something and the wound reopens. it's then that it stings...nearly as much as the first time.
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bd5
February 2, 2017 at 3:00 AM
That's some GREAT writing.
And yet, dramas which are basically dreck when it comes to the script often end up being huge hits as well.
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Jill
January 31, 2017 at 4:09 AM
"...during filming, nothing is to interfere with the development of the main story. So, right from the beginning, we have already decided that Deoksun will end up together with Taek eventually."
--Director Shin Won-ho at the 22nd Shanghai Television Festival, 2016 http://reply1988.com/2016/06/12/shin-won-ho-pd-at-the-22nd-shanghai-tv-festival/
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thelady
February 3, 2017 at 9:57 AM
I wish the Junghwan shippers would read this, it is ok to like him but stop spreading lies that he was the original husband.
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mysterious
January 31, 2017 at 5:18 AM
Answer Me 1988 was the one that cut me through and through. What's worse is that I was shipping Taek with Deok-sun at first (I liked Park Bo-gum after seeing him in I Remeber You), but Jung-hwan was so compelling that without even knowing it, I had jumped ship, to my utter doom. The husband was nothing like Taek, but was more like Jung-hwan. Till this day, I can't watch/re-watch this show. It hurts too much. I got it right on the other two series, but not this one. I blame it on the writer, you can't point us in one direction so obviously and then yank the rug out from under us later on. I cry foul!!! Plus they never showed us what happened to the other characters. Did Jung-hwan find someone else and become happy like Chilbongie did? How could they not give us any details about the other characters?! Okay let me stop here before I have another full-blown meltdown like I did last time over this show. And now I will go back to the land of Denial where I have been residing happily, dreaming of Jung-hwan with Deok-sun (which is how it should have been).
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Ammy
January 31, 2017 at 6:43 AM
You're right that the husband was nothing like Taek and the PD's of the show were so disappointed that we (audience) got it right so early, then the husband was altered.
Its funny that I don't actually remember much scenes of Deok Seon with Taek and when I discussed this with my friends its real that none of us do.
I don't have the courage and ample time (blame the lengthiest episodes) to re-watch the show.
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LW
January 31, 2017 at 2:58 PM
But why do you think the husband resembles JH? I hear this argument over and over. He doesn't act like CT, so it has to be JH. He didn't remind me of JH either. As a matter of fact, none of the adult actors reminded me of their younger self. But other than the adult actor, isn't most clues point to CT? The smoking was so obvious, wasn't it? Remember JH saying the bully was good guy since he doesn't smoke. If JH started smoking, that will be so against his character. I was even surprised he didn't think less of Taekie even after finding out he smokes. I would rather have JH loose the girl than go against his convictions and character.
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Kato
January 31, 2017 at 4:08 PM
I am the only one that think deok sun's future husband looked like Taek's dad. Every time that i see him think that Taek has the hairstyle of his dad.
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claire
January 31, 2017 at 9:37 PM
we know the husband smokes from the get go. we know he wore thin clothes in the winter. there are comments the actor playing looks like taek in the first episode.
junghwan was more popular than taekkie when the show was airing. it is much more possible for the director to change the ending to fit JH.
junghwan & dukseon never fit. they never had that connection that the show built for taek and dukseon. they never had a normal conversation outside their banter.
junghwan was not brave enough to tell dukseon he likes her.
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anglvue
February 1, 2017 at 12:51 AM
oh my gawd! i felt the same way about taek in the beginning. it seemed so painfully obvious that it would be jung hwan but i loved taek because i liked park bo gum as well. and then jung hwan just suddenly wedged his way in and i was left in tears.
i rewatch it because i really liked sun woo and bora's unexpected storyline. that took me by suprise. when it gets closer to the end, i fast forward to the ending for them.
also, another reason i'm so bitter about this is because the writer never gave me the closure on jung hwan that i wanted. i didn't even get a chance to say goodbye to him.
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thelady
February 3, 2017 at 9:58 AM
the husband was a left handed smoker which is not Junghwan
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riarallahssi
February 4, 2017 at 7:01 AM
The very strength of the Answer me series are its prequels, especially the fact that in AM97, we got the OTP we rooted for. In AM94, they used that faith from 97 to twist the dagger already lodged in our hearts and by AM88, they used our preconceptions from AM94 to make hurt us even further. I guess it's safe to say that the AM franchise aims to hurt all of us with unrequited loves. Nobody can escape it. Those who loved Trash were bound to root for Jung Hwan (Taek reeks Chilbong to me--baduk baseball competitive genius) yet they gave him the girl. The ultimate moral lesson of these dramas is to never watch the series as it goes because I swear 88 is a positive experience for me simply because I joined the wagon after having read all recaps. haha. never live watch. These writers are too good at flipping tables to trust them with my livewatching heart
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faith
January 31, 2017 at 7:06 AM
they let Junghwan arc's far too long, in my opinion. if they shorten the length of his arc up until ep 15, then we will never get into this mess... fighting each other and let this beautiful drama end up as bitter memories. their family arc is so damn good, the characters are relatable, but to be honest, i will never revisit, rewatch and marathon this drama again.
#imstillbitter #stillwaitingtoknowwhathappentothefuturejunghwananddongryong
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5 elric
January 31, 2017 at 3:13 AM
You had to choose that episode of You're Beautiful ? My heart still breaks for Shin-woo since that episode pretty much sold me that he will never get Mi-nam but ugh Yong-hwa and Shin-hye's chemistry, and Shin-woo's overall personality just wouldn't let me believe that he was the loser in this drama.
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darcylove
January 31, 2017 at 7:58 AM
Yeaaa... Right..... That episode..... The moment she answers her phone and turns without seeing shin woo..... That is all...*Heart breaks*
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Chococat
January 31, 2017 at 8:20 AM
I agree, that picture represents their whole relationship! Shin-woo was always one step behind and had the worst timing ever, to the point that he almost became pathetic at the end with that awful hug in front of Tae-Kyung. But my stomach still drops watching that scene where he's waiting for her to join him for lunch with their disguises, and she uses them to take Tae-Kyung home instead. Arrgh. I listened to CNBlue for a month after this drama and watched You've Fallen for Me just to get over my SLS (ironic really, because Yong Jung Hwa became the cold-on-the-outside-squishy-on-the-inside lead).
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6 Diana
January 31, 2017 at 3:14 AM
Lovers in Paris man... or Love Patzzi... or What happened in effing Bali.
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starswillshine
January 31, 2017 at 6:23 AM
Love your angst on the 'effing Bali'! I'm so emotionally traumatized by this drama that I just couldn't help but groan in anger whenever I see the drama title.
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alasecond
January 31, 2017 at 2:55 PM
I just watched it yesterday... well to get some in sung dose..
and honest to god, never in my life have i been so confused... i just didn't know who was the main lead.. till the very last episode.. i was so tempted to wiki it.. but then challenged myself to figure it out and not give in to spoilers..
But man, some girl to totally love both the guys the way she pleased :)
she has to be the most awesome character ever to be not apologetic abotu her choice..
What i love you if you are ready to sleep with any of the guys any of the time :P
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carpetfibers
January 31, 2017 at 4:03 PM
WHIB was one of the first kdramas I watched, after Beautiful Days. To this day, I still don't know if she loved both of them, or just the one.
It wreaked me.
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alasecond
January 31, 2017 at 4:06 PM
although her actions don't say so but i guess she loved the rich guy.. given the other guy literally said that in bed and she didn't refute it and that she uttered i love you (finally to the one she didn't seem to like)
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carpetfibers
January 31, 2017 at 4:32 PM
I feel like I should re-watch it, now that I'm ten years older. I wonder if it'll view differently when watched as a grown-up; I just remember being very perplexed and emotional (but that might be due to binge watching every episode through overnight).
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alasecond
January 31, 2017 at 11:50 PM
don't bother.. i watched it two days ago.. and i have never been so confused in any other drama..
i d no idea whom she loved.. because she seemed to not really love per se.. but really like both guys and kinds was ready all the time to hook up with anyone of them...
its interesting to find a heroine not apologetic about being selfish and physical in love
alasecond
January 31, 2017 at 11:51 PM
although never got my head around y they liked her in the first place specially in sung
missjb
January 31, 2017 at 7:52 PM
that drama is so mess up. i actually ship her with So ji Sub first but after that ending lol. they are all mess up there is no way i will rooting any of them to end up together
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7 Princess Consuela Banana-Hammock
January 31, 2017 at 3:14 AM
Oh god those Reply 1988 flashbacks. I cried my brains out for JH. I wasn't expecting it at all. Though this is one of the best kdramas I've ever watched, I kinda hate the cleverness of the ending. I'm not the only one, right?
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sorim
January 31, 2017 at 3:24 AM
Nope you're not the only one! I loved the drama, but didn't like the ending of the main love story. Still have a JH shaped hole in my heart ??
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Rose
January 31, 2017 at 7:05 AM
I HAVE A VERY DEEP QUESTION FOR THE BEANIES: can a second male-lead syndrome exist when you were persuaded that he was the "first-male" lead for about 90% of a drama ?
Because really for me, Reply 1988 is a case of
SECOND-male lead getting the girl, I mean, that is what happened, right ?!!!
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LW
January 31, 2017 at 3:11 PM
Was it ever mentioned anywhere who the first lead was? Or was it in our mind? The story started showing JH's point of view, kept DS's a secret till the end, kept CT and his POV hidden for about six episode. So didn't we all assume JH is the main lead? Getting the girl or having more screen time cant be the only criteria for being male lead. Someone(I am really sorry I don't remember your name, Thank you for your awesome explanation) brilliantly explained in Soompie Buduk's rule about giving the lesser player advantage based on your Tan level. So Choi Teak, Six Tan lost advantage for the first six episode and he gained it on the last sixth. When I read details like that I so admire the amount of details the writer and director include in this story. I am so happy that they treat the viewers like smart people. It is sad if it goes unnoticed by us viewers. When I read how people are put off because JH didnt end with DS, it makes me sad knowing they are not enjoying the drama for what it is.
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pinny
February 1, 2017 at 2:24 AM
Haha I guess SLS is when the couple you're shipping don't get together!?
I'm still confused about whether or not I had SLS when watching Dream High. The whole time I was trying to make myself ship Taec's character when I secretly wanted Kim Soo-hyun's character to get the girl. I couldn't even admit it to myself - I NEVER have SLS. I was so weirded out when Taec turned out to be second lead I had to watch the whole thing again with the right OTP in mind!
So SLS or not?
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Archer
January 31, 2017 at 2:54 PM
I thought I would've forgotten the ending by now, but nope... Or, not yet. Junghwan, why did you do this to me?
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8 jichangwooklover
January 31, 2017 at 3:15 AM
Haha agree with the list. In You're beautiful Shin Woo even said at the end I'm so used to getting rejected by you lol. Also the screenshot reminds me of the fake decoration icecream he was eating ?
The recent SLS was in School 2015. Like Eunbi just replaced her twin sister and took everything. Her boyfriend. Her mom. Her friends. While Eunbyul left the country -.-
Also not in a million years can I like someone who used to like my sister lol. And how could han yi an move from one sister to another so quickly .Since I still remember the characters names I guess I was really pissed off lol.
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9 darcylove
January 31, 2017 at 3:16 AM
Chilbonggie was the first one I thought of when I read the title.... And there he was at No.1..... Girls rooting for him all the way...
One more I thought of was Yoon kyun sang of doctors too...
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10 Cesz
January 31, 2017 at 3:19 AM
Goong's Second Lead can be a runner-up! I still pity Yul up to this day...
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Cesz
January 31, 2017 at 3:23 AM
My favorite (and saddest) scene with him was his reaction to Chae-kyeong and Shin's first night. And also when he took responsibility anf admitted he was the guy in the photo to save Chae-kyeong from being punished
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ryoko
January 31, 2017 at 3:41 AM
Yes, Goong! I almost never get SLS, but this drama was one of the few times. She should have left the palace with Yul, the poor guy. Shin was an ass for too long.
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nomad
February 25, 2017 at 6:38 PM
So I watched Goong for the first time b/c of the top 10 list OTP thing. Nope, I don't get why they were even together in the first place. Really, really don't like Shin.
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fanitha
January 31, 2017 at 6:23 AM
For me the saddest scene was when he cried with his grandmother about his heart hurting so much because of his love T.T
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nchoe
January 31, 2017 at 2:00 PM
I watched Goong in high school and I remember how both male leads made me swoon. But then I re-watched it again a couple months ago and I was like "why the hell did I swoon over these two selfish jerk". Lol.
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Mia
February 1, 2017 at 6:06 AM
Same here! I loved the drama the first time but then I rewatched it last year and Yul especially pissed me off so much, he has a passive-agressive vibe that I cannot stand. Maybe I changed or maybe the drama didn't age well?