Signal: Episode 3
by gummimochi
I’m sure that when the cold case squad was tasked to take on the South Gyeonggi serial murders, none of them anticipated the possibility that any more lives could be at stake. But that’s the name of the game when you’ve got two detectives running on parallel timelines, both trying to prevent the deaths of any more innocents.
However, our characters soon learn that no matter how noble their intentions may be, their meddling can also lead to some serious consequences. Or will they have enough time to change the past and create a better future?
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EPISODE 3 RECAP
Hae-young literally shakes in his boots, dumbfounded by the changes to the crime scene photos and whiteboard. If that wasn’t eerie enough, then get this: neither Heon-ki nor Soo-hyun can support his claim that Lee Mi-sun was the eighth victim—to them, she survived the attack.
Similarly in 1989, Jae-han is able to defend himself from the perpetrator thanks to the victim’s muffled screams. He gives chase down the streets, then pounces on the guy to cuff him.
Back in 2015, Hae-young tracks down the senior detective whom we saw Jae-han meet with in Episode 2. All he wants to know if it’s true that Lee indeed survived, but he gives pause when the former detective blames Jae-han and “that nonsensical radio transmission” for everything that went wrong in that case.
He later mulls over the first transmission he ever had with Jae-han, hanging on to the 2000 Jae-han’s dying words to persuade his younger self. Nothing about this situation makes sense to him, but then the radio comes alive again. 11:23—right on schedule.
It’s Jae-han in 1989, fresh off of handing off the attacker to the police. He reports that the perp in his custody, thanks to Hae-young’s intel. But how did Hae-young know about the impending attack anyway?
Hae-young can hardly believe his ears, wondering if he’s on the receiving end of some elaborate prank. When he demands to know where Jae-han is, he’s told that Jae-han has just dropped off suspect Choi Young-shin—a name listed on the whiteboard.
“So… you’re really in 1989?” Hae-young asks incredulously. Now Jae-han thinks that Hae-young’s pulling his leg, but then he’s told that if he’s really in 1989, Suspect Choi will die.
“He’s not the killer!” Hae-young hollers. And while the police are busy interrogating him, the true murderer will claim his next victim. So if Jae-han is truly in 1989, then he can stop it from happening.
We can see that everything Hae-young is spouting is true, as a shadow ambushes a woman unawares. Unfortunately for Jae-han, the connection terminates before he can get any more information.
Jae-han rushes into the precinct where the seizure that’s supposed to kill Suspect Choi begins. Over in 2015, Hae-young stares at the whiteboard, then back at the clock, waiting on edge for the information listed there to change once more.
But it’s too late—Suspect Choi is dead and now another life has been taken: Hwang Min-joo. Which means there is no change to update no matter how long Hae-young waits. Hae-young slumps in defeat.
Hae-young checks the newspaper archives, which only confirm the above deaths. Another headline cites Jae-han’s bravery in saving a life, and the photo allows Hae-young to put a face to the name he’s heard. It dawns on him that it’s all true.
His next stop is to visit Lee Mi-sun’s husband, only to discover that Soo-hyun is already there. Her questions are unwelcome to the point that the husband chucks water at her in retaliation. He barks that although his wife may have been the only surviving victim in the case, she had recalled nothing regarding the attack.
Not only that, the police’s constant pestering was what drove her to her untimely death, he claims. Soo-hyun bows out of the store with an apology.
She doesn’t accept Hae-young’s handkerchief, telling him that being brushed off as cops is nothing compared to the pain felt by the victim’s families.
They stop when Lee Mi-sun’s daughter calls out to sit down with them, apologizing for her father’s emotional response. She’s brought a few of her mother’s belongings which includes a family photo. She was told that her mother was pregnant with her at the time of the attack, and if that detective wasn’t there at the right place at the right time, she would’ve never been born.
Her mother never got to meet the detective who saved her life, so she taught her daughter to treat any police officer with respect. Hae-young sits in silence, slowly sinking in the impact of his and Jae-han’s intervention on this young woman’s life.
Once they’re alone, Soo-hyun asks why Hae-young’s here in the first place. He tries to formulate his words before spitting out: “What do you think it would be like if you received a transmission from the past?”
He quickly drops the subject when Soo-hyun looks at him dubiously, and starts to walk away when Soo-hyun answers, “I would ask that person to protect someone precious to me.”
“What if everything gets mucked up?” Hae-young continues. She replies, “Isn’t it better to try even if things do get mucked up?”
While Soo-hyun reflects on her earlier words at her desk, Hae-young looks solemnly at the walkie-talkie at home. He realizes that while he may not fully understand what’s going on, he can use this two-way communication to save lives and catch the serial killer.
He starts a personal whiteboard listing the “Before” and “After” differences between the last few victims of the South Gyeonggi serial murders. He notes how one fewer persons may have died, but the total number victims are the same. Furthermore the last two murders took place in less secluded areas and on dates earlier than before.
It occurs to Hae-young that something must’ve happened the night Lee Mi-sun was saved for the murderer to have suddenly changed his hunting patterns. More importantly, he’s the only one who’s caught on to the change, so he has to be the one to figure it all out before another person dies.
Meanwhile, Jae-han is reprimanded for losing the true killer on foot. His defense that he thought he was chasing the right man falls on deaf ears, and he’s ultimately told to turn in his badge and radio. Uh oh, how will he get in touch with Hae-young?
He barges through the precinct to find a Park Hae-young; needless to say he doesn’t find his man (and mistakenly wallops another detective with a judo flip) and runs out before he’s yelled at again.
We see him lingering outside the Youngsan district office to peek a glance at a pretty lady. He freezes when he thinks he’s been seen, but then frowns when she appears to be gone. So when she reappears from behind him, Jae-han makes a run for it. HA, it’s so cute.
Even if Jae-han doesn’t know it himself, the young woman seems to also be interested in him. She nearly takes something out of her pocket before changing her mind at the last second. He does, however, leave her with a taser to protect herself from all the bad men out there before adorably running away again.
Trying to catch his breath, Jae-han swears to himself that he’ll put the serial killer behind bars and muster up the courage to ask her out on a date. Aw.
In the present, Soo-hyun notes that while there are plenty of differences between the murder victims, they did share one commonality: all the women were murdered after taking the bus home. When she’s told that bus was the typical method of transportation back then, Soo-hyun brings up a map that indicates the crime scene locations along a bus route that still exists today.
Moreover, the eighth victim Hwang Min-joo worked for that bus company. That gets the gears in Hae-young’s head turning whilst Detective Kim thinks that the bus route correlation is a farfetched one.
But then Hae-young says that the aforementioned bus route also cuts across the train tracks where Lee Mi-sun was attacked.
In 1989, Jae-han retraces his steps from that night, trying to figure out where he lost the serial killer. It brings him back to the bus stop where he thought he nabbed the right guy, and that’s when Jae-han registers the bus… which also pulled away from him moments before he turned that last corner that night.
In the present, Hae-young explains the timeline to his team: After the killer failed in murdering Lee Mi-sun, he hopped on a bus and got off at a further stop on that route to kill Hwang Min-joo. He then killed again two days later.
While most serial killers space out the dates between their crimes to reduce suspicion, Hae-young believes that there was a reason behind this sudden change in pattern. The only place that he had any chance of escape was through the narrow residential streets that opened up to the bus stop.
We see that’s exactly what happened, as the bus pulls away from Jae-han arresting the wrong man. Hae-young believes that the killer’s eighth and ninth victims weren’t calculated acts—on the contrary, he hurried to silence the women who saw his face.
What the cold case squad (and Jae-han) doesn’t know is that Jae-han’s crush was riding on that very bus. Detective Kim interrupts just then, asking if they spoke with Jae-han before he did. He remembers how Jae-han was spouting nonsense about how the killer was on the bus and that’s why Hwang Min-joo died.
We see a what could be a young Detective Kim (?) and Jae-han approach the bus driver who had discovered Hwang’s body that night. He had worked in tandem with the victim, who took the last bus home, and when Jae-han asks if he remembers a young man in black getting on the last stop, the driver claims that no one got on.
Not too far away, one of Hwang Min-joo’s co-workers looks back, confused. Jae-han is even more perplexed, and the detective says that if the perp had gotten on the bus, then the bus driver would’ve been the first one on his hit list.
Detective Kim says he followed up on that driver, who still firmly claims that he didn’t see anyone that night. He tried tracking down that co-worker too, but no one was home.
Citing that it’s a cold case squad’s job to follow up on anything the previous investigation might’ve missed, Soo-hyun immediately packs up and heads out with Hae-young.
In the car, Hae-young wonders what the killer must be doing now—committing murder would be such a strong temptation for him to cease doing it altogether. He’d never been subject to an investigation either, and there are plenty of rumors about where he might be now—either dead, locked up for a different crime, or left the country.
“But what if… just if… he’s still in our midst?” Hae-young wonders. It’s probably someone who people never suspected to be a murderer, he says. As they pull up to a residential street, we see someone in a dark hoodie and hat slip away.
As expected, no one answers the door when Soo-hyun and Hae-young come knocking. Noticing the mess inside, Soo-hyun opens the unlocked door and enters… stopping short when she sees the bound feet and hands in the bedroom. Oh shit.
Hae-young jumps back, startled, but he instantly recognizes the signature knots. “It’s him,” he breathes.
Section Chief Ahn checks in with Soo-hyun, who is unable to confirm whether this murder is linked to the other South Gyeonggi murders. He tells her to call in her team who are busy analyzing the crime scene, and leave the case to the Gyeonggi police officers.
So whereas Detective Kim is excited to see his hoobaes, Hae-young isn’t so thrilled by the other team taking over. He tells the other cops to get lost, refusing to let someone else take credit for all their hard work.
He even goes so far to say that he and his team are doing all this grunt work because the cops couldn’t nab the killer in the first place. Ooh, them be fightin’ words.
He and the other cop come close to throwing punches when he’s told that this murder is the cold case squad’s fault for digging into such an old case. Soo-hyun breaks it up and hands over the case to the other team, much to Hae-young and Detective Kim’s surprise.
She calls her team back in, and she won’t take no for an answer. Hae-young points out that the other squad leader wasn’t all wrong—their team is partly responsible for this murder to take place.
That’s why they should continue with the case, Hae-young argues. To that, Soo-hyun reminds him that he mustn’t let emotions cloud his judgment in this line of work. But Hae-young blames himself for the woman’s death: “If it weren’t for that radio transmission…”
That grabs Soo-hyun’s attention, and Hae-young swears that he’ll put everything back in its rightful place in so long as he has a chance to do so. He sits in his car, waiting for it to be 11:23 again so he can talk to Jae-han.
Currently, Jae-han is under suspicion of colluding with the serial killer. He’s placed in lockup and is separated from his radio when Hae-young tries to contact him.
He yells emphatically when Hae-young transmits that someone else has died because of their meddling. Jae-han gets worked up when he’s told that there’s still something he can do about it in 1989 (“There he goes again!”) and tells a practically empty room that they should arrest the crazy man on the radio claiming that he’s in 2015.
Hae-young quickly relays that the serial killer is still at large and that Jae-han still has time to save the ninth victim. Her name is Kim Won-kyung, an office worker, and she’ll die on November 7, 1989 at 9:30 PM.
That’s Jae-han’s crush, as we see her arrive home before the killer in the shadows can attack. Hae-young pleads with him to catch the murderer; he might not know what good these transmissions will do but he firmly believes that the past can still change—they can catch the killer and save a life.
With that, the transmission ends and Jae-han furiously shakes the bars. His shouts aren’t responded to until much later, when Jae-han claims that someone else will die tonight. Again, no one listens.
Hae-young wakes in front of the whiteboard the following morning. He’s disappointed to see that nothing’s changed. Soo-hyun, however, isn’t so disheartened: the Gyeonggi police is having trouble with this murder, which puts them at an advantage.
When Hae-young points out that she’s the one who called them all off, Soo-hyun counters that she pulled them off of the crime scene, not the investigation itself. They’re still in charge of cracking the South Gyeonggi serial murders case, and all they have to do is be the first ones to catch the killer.
She’s gotten the inside scoop from forensics saying that unlike the previous victims, this woman was tied up post-mortem. Hae-young wonders if that means it’s not the same killer yet.
Soo-hyun says they can safely assume that whoever it is, it’s someone related to the South Gyeonggi murders. Hae-young realizes that it must be the signature knot because while the public knew about said knot, no pictures were ever released. (Psst, Gapdong, is that you?)
So if they can identify this murderer, they have a shot at finding the original killer. Heon-ki has something that could help: a broken glass cup found beneath the victim’s body.
While Heon-ki runs off to the lab, Detective Kim realizes that there was a moving camera in the neighborhood where the crime scene took place. On their way to the crime scenes, he had noticed the black boxes on the delivery trucks driving around. He’ll make sure to get that footage before the Gyeonggi team does.
As for Soo-hyun and Hae-young, they decide to start from the beginning. Looking at the floorplans, Hae-young says there was no sign of forced entry and no signs of struggle either. That means the perpetrator had to be someone the victim knew and the motive to bury evidence.
Soo-hyun can’t shake off the notion that it might be the bus driver, but Hae-young shuts that theory down—many profilers might have a difference in opinion about the serial killer, but they all agree that he was a man in his early 20s, 23 years old at most, who never had a romantic relationship.
Moreover, the bus driver was on duty that night, which eliminates him as a possibility. Detective Kim calls to say that he grabbed the black box just before the other team arrived, and Soo-hyun and Hae-young decide to divide and conquer to find out what the bus driver knows.
Hae-young spares one last look at the whiteboard, which remains unchanged.
Kim Won-kyung works late that evening, while Jae-han fakes an illness to create an opportunity to bust out. By the time he grabs his radio and rushes out, it’s a little past 8 PM.
He tries seeing if she’s at home, only to learn that she’s still in the office. He wanders the streets calling out her name, Hae-young’s warning echoing in his ears.
Current time: 8:40 PM.
COMMENTS
Still awesome. I do love the cliffhangers that we’ve gotten so far in Signal even if this one isn’t as in-your-face jaw dropping like last week’s. Cutting off less than an hour before the ninth victim dies certainly opens up the show to a lot of questions, and successfully has me hanging by the edge of my seat. And though a part of me hopes that Hae-young and Jae-han get to rewrite history for the better this time, the other wonders what sort of unforeseen consequences come from doing so. How much of their present involvement now aligns or breaks away from any other past Hae-youngs and Jae-hans? Do your brains hurt yet?
What I like most is how we’re seeing the team effort come into play for the first time this week, though for Jae-han, his involvement to catch the killer is deeply personal right now. This is the part of the premise that intrigued me most, to see how two cops from two time periods would work together with a common goal towards an unknowable future. I do like that Hae-young caught on to how he always talks to Jae-han at the same time every night, and has now proceeded to relay as much information within his allotted time.
He’s a smart fella, but he’s also a deeply emotional one, ready to take responsibility for anything that goes wrong if he believes it’s of his own making. It’s his heart-first-brain-second attitude that Soo-hyun cautioned him of, because in their line of work, an emotional response could easily endanger someone’s life. He might be too late in saving the other bus girl’s life, but he knows that Jae-han still has a chance to make a difference in the past to preserve Hae-young’s present. Well, that’s the noble intention they currently operate under, but what happens if they try to save a life that alters Hae-young’s present?
What I find interesting is that Hae-young is the only person in 2015 who recognizes the changes. I almost hoped that Soo-hyun would catch on too, but for now it makes sense for Hae-young to try and operate alone, and hone in on how he can use the connection to Jae-han to his advantage. I do hope that Soo-hyun will buy into these absurd-sounding claims to the past and become part of a trio that faces crime together.
Speaking of which, I can’t help but admit that the possibility of a copycat triggered terrifying flashbacks of Gapdong. Although the jury’s still out on that plot point, I am carefully open to how Signal might play with that storyline if they choose to use it. The writing has been thoughtful and intricate so far, so I’m always curious as to where the story will go. As for the team, it’s great to see Heon-ki and Detective Kim stepping up to the plate this hour, offering their knowledge and skillset to the team. Here’s to one small step for the cold case squad, and one giant leap for Signal.
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1 clara
February 1, 2016 at 3:15 PM
loved this ep!! :D
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2 karen
February 1, 2016 at 3:17 PM
This drama is so good!
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3 Jasindo
February 1, 2016 at 3:29 PM
I'm so scared, watching this drama! Not only because the drama itself is thrilling, but because it's so darn good I'm scared that the insane quality might drop at any moment like some other tvn shows have towards the end of their run. Because this is seriously the best drama I've ever watched in terms of writing and overall style. Please keep being amazing!!
Thanks for the recaps gummi! :)
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4 Lunatic4KD
February 1, 2016 at 3:38 PM
OH MY GOODNESS !!! I get chills and shivers every few minutes in this drama. How does it keep happening to me?? It's just THAT good. OMG, I am so thrilled by the deep intelligence of this script, the phenomenal directing, the cinematography, the acting - the sheer realistic feel of the whole thing. Wow - just WOW. I've already seen ep 4 and it just keeps on being so intense.
And I'm SO grateful for the recaps and all the thoughtful discussions going on. This feels like my first time getting trapped by a drama since Healer over a year ago......waiting a week will be so hard.
I am addicted and not embarrassed to say so!
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5 Smile134
February 1, 2016 at 3:40 PM
Thanks for the recap! I've been waiting for this since Friday :)
I was initially drawn to Signal thanks to Lee Ji Hoon and Kim Hye Soo, but Jo Jin-woong's character is growing on me and now detective Lee Jae-han is my favorite. At the end of the episode, I was in tears watching him searching for Won-kyung, desperately trying to change her fate.
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news
February 1, 2016 at 4:34 PM
I cried at the end of ep 4!
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Ek Ladhki Thi
February 1, 2016 at 5:42 PM
Like a little baby. Jo Jin-woong is just amazing.
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blueribbon
February 1, 2016 at 5:58 PM
Me too so sad and heartbreaking
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Smile134
February 1, 2016 at 9:06 PM
I did the same, and wonder if JH thinks of all the "what if" scenarios in the end. Anyway, I don't want to get in it now because it will be considered spoilers for next ep.
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vongole
February 1, 2016 at 11:42 PM
A sob-fest, I tell ya!
I am waiting for the ep. 4 recap to ask a couple of questions about the latter half.
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6 Jien
February 1, 2016 at 3:48 PM
Sometimes, I found my hands suddenly cover my eyes and raised them a bit until I could watch only the very bottom of the scene. Silly but This show made me do this.
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7 gadis
February 1, 2016 at 4:18 PM
I'm still confused about the timeline. How come the 2000 Jaehan already know about Haeyong when that was Haeyoung's first contact with him? Is that means the Haeyong who originally contacted him lived in another timeline? But if that's the case, then that means Jaehan isn't the only one who live in a time loop, right? Or am I missing something?
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TransientState
February 1, 2016 at 4:41 PM
Because it wasn't his first contact with him. Unfortunately, we've stepped into paradox territory here. Which is very common, almost inevitable, side-effect of writing time travel.
'00 Jae-han is the same Jae-han from '89. He already knows of the walkie-talkie stuff, he knows it's Hae-young in '00. If you watch it again, during that first episode he speaks to him with familiarity.
I wonder if we're going to see them working on a whole bunch of cold cases from the 90s, ending with the young girl Hae-young saw being taken away by the nurse.
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Commentcomment
February 1, 2016 at 4:53 PM
Actually, the fact that it was park haeyoung who told him to go to seonil mental hospital in ep 1 was only a theory, its the most popular theory for signal viewers, its still not very sure if park haeyoung is the lt. park lee jaehan was refering to.. though i am buying this theory, from what i remember he was talking to someone before heading to SMH after the 'meeting' that evening was done and everyone left out, one was still talking to them, but i am not sure, also id like to believe we really are in sort of a time paradox because while i have seen it in time traveling movies, i havent seen it in a kdrama, most kdramas tend to have happy endings, even the ones wjo have vague ending havent done time traveling
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Commentcomment
February 1, 2016 at 4:59 PM
In the preview for ep 6 they are in year 1995.
. Actually, the fact that it was park haeyoung who told him to go to seonil mental hospital in ep 1 was only a theory, its the most popular theory for signal viewers,
its still not confirmed that park haeyoung is the lt. park lee jaehan was refering to..
though i am buying this theory, from what i remember he was talking to someone before heading to SMH after the 'meeting' that evening was done and everyone left out, one was still talking to them, but i am not sure,
also id like to believe we really are in sort of a time paradox because while i have seen it in time traveling movies, i havent seen it in a kdrama, most kdramas tend to have happy endings, even the ones who have vague ending havent done a 'paradox' ending.. id like to see their take on it.
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fay17
February 1, 2016 at 10:49 PM
I just am a bit confused how the time paradox is working here. First time JH talked to PHY was on 2000,then for him the next meeting was backward in time,on 1989,going by this rule rest of the talks should have been more in the past right... How come that the talk on 2000 will happen again.I just find the possibility of repetition on that point a bit convoluting here.
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Grayden
February 2, 2016 at 5:36 AM
Wibbly-wobbly, timey-wimey!
Jae-Han is in a time loop, Hae-young's time line moves forward in a linear fashion only. Jae-han can tell Hae-young to convince his '89 self because they are the same Jae-han and he's experienced it before. He knows it's happened to him, and that it will happen for Hae-young. It's textbook paradox.
If anyone watches Doctor Who, the relationship the Doctor has with River Song is similar, with them meeting in reverse order: Him meeting her for the first time when she's spent a lifetime with him. He hasn't met her yet. Such is possible when time is viewed from a non-linear, non-subjective point of view.
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8 LaLaMimi
February 1, 2016 at 4:22 PM
I wouldn't worry about this being another Gap-Dong (which was such a disappointing mess I cant even begin to talk about it). Episode 4's subs are out and the next episode is AH-MAY-ZING. and really terrifying in the suspenseful way. I was worried it would tank but the writing seems to be getting better, not worse. Does anyone know if this is pre-produced? Because the quality certainly suggest as much.
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9 Rach
February 1, 2016 at 4:24 PM
I normally don't watch mystery dramas and just opt for romance dramas but I'm wondering if I should start Signal? Or maybe after it's completed so I won't have to live through the pain of cliffhangers. I'm on the line as to if I should watch this series (if only for my love for KHS)
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nasalhazel
February 1, 2016 at 5:42 PM
Watch it now! Don't run the risk of spoilers.
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blueribbon
February 1, 2016 at 6:03 PM
Watch it if you can it is a really good show. If you watch all the way to episode four you will not run into cliffhangers, the fourth episode ended with a conclusion. However from then on you will most likely want to be cautious, the only problem? you will most likely get hooked and will not want to wait until the show completes its run.
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eynay
February 1, 2016 at 9:26 PM
you should! I'm more with crime/mystery dramas rather than romance & Signal one of the best drama even not half of the drama aired.
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vongole
February 1, 2016 at 11:43 PM
Signal is my first K-drama without a romantic storyline... I LOVE it! It's really well produced.
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renebean
February 3, 2016 at 10:44 AM
Yeah it's the sort of drama where you have to watch it without spoilers
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10 TransientState
February 1, 2016 at 4:45 PM
Still, the burning question is whether or not Jae-han is alive or dead in 2015. He sounded pretty sure he knew he was going to die or something was about to happen to him. Nevermind the gunshot Hae-young heard on the walkie-talkie.
Yet, when Hae-young was reading over the profiles of the cops named Jae-han, our Jae-han's stated that he was discharged in '01. Meaning he survived. Soo-hyun also acts like he's gone too.
Wondering if Hae-young ends up telling Jae-han what happens to him in '00 and saves him and they finally meet in 2016.
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loveycat
February 1, 2016 at 5:35 PM
I Wonder if he is missing. Or in Comatose that all years
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nasalhazel
February 1, 2016 at 5:49 PM
In an early episode the ME tells SooHyun the body they found is not who she's looking for. I believe JaeHan is missing, presumably dead, in the 2015 we're seeing so far, and SooHyun has been looking for him since the night he went to investigate a tip at the hospital.
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elric
February 1, 2016 at 8:37 PM
Ohh I think I missed that part. Is it in episode 1?
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blueribbon
February 1, 2016 at 6:11 PM
I was also thinking about this. I think that the reason it says discharged its because when a person has been missing for some time they assume the person its dead. Besides the cops are trying to hide things and they have made it clear in past episodes that they don't want his case to bring attention. One of the ways would be to write discharged instead of missing or dead.
Also is it safe to assume that the radio in the future is the same radio from the past? and if it is then why or who was throwing away evidence?
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eynay
February 1, 2016 at 9:27 PM
Yes, I agree with you!
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Me
February 2, 2016 at 12:21 PM
"Also is it safe to assume that the radio in the future is the same radio from the past? and if it is then why or who was throwing away evidence?"
Exactly my thought. The fact that HY found the radio inside a truck parked in front of police station also seemed suspicious, like, someone really close definitely knew JH's whereabout and probably also knew what thay radio could do. Think about how did the radio which we know was held by dying JH in 2000 could be inside a truck in front of police station in 2015, couldn't be a coincidence. Woaahh it made me really curious
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Canuckgirl
February 2, 2016 at 3:02 PM
Well, let's not forget the current Commish seem to have an end in what happened to JaeHan, since he keeps reminding the Chief about what happened back then
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11 Possum
February 1, 2016 at 4:46 PM
Really intrigued by the idea of the past being flexible and the unforeseen consequences for making changes to it.
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blueribbon
February 1, 2016 at 7:29 PM
Me too.
It seems that even if you change the past the same number of people die. The first girl they saved by the train tracks was pregnant so technically they saved two lives, but two different people also lost their life. The blackmailer girl and the girl by the marketplace.
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Jon G.
February 2, 2016 at 12:07 AM
That could be coincidence though. Especially the blackmailer girl didn't really die because they messed up the time-line, she died because of things that happened in the "present".
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blueribbon
February 2, 2016 at 1:42 AM
The Blackmailer girl kind of did die because of the interference though. I kind of don't want to explain here because it will be a spoiler for episode four but I will write a warning just in case *SPOILER STOP READING NOW, SORRY*
If HY hadn't told HJ about the girl in the train tracks HJ wouldn't have been there and seen the killer at the crime scene. This wouldn't have lead HJ following him and the killer riding the bus to hide.
Then the bus driver wouldn't have been questioned and she wouldn't have listen, leading to her to blackmail the driver.
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Jon G.
February 2, 2016 at 6:15 AM
But that's not what killed her. Yes, the blackmail is on HY, but the additional murder is the fault of the change in Korean laws, which might have been influenced by the way the initial case about the kidnapped and murdered girl went down. Which, sure, was caused by JH telling HY where to find the body of the killer's boyfriend. Which was only possible because JH knew about the magical phone from the serial murder case. Which ... Wait ... What?
12 cozybooks
February 1, 2016 at 5:01 PM
Thanks for the recap! I love getting your guys' take on things. :)
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13 Wag-a-muffin
February 1, 2016 at 5:39 PM
I...arfin'...love...this...show! My biggest complaint is that I started watching it and got hooked on it after the FIRST EPISODE!!!! Like I said in episode 2 comments, I wish I would have found it after 4 or 5 weeks, and then I could have marathoned it instead of waiting for DAYS to find out what happens next.
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14 missjb
February 1, 2016 at 6:14 PM
This drama is soo good, the writing might be abit simplisitic in terms of characterization the villain, but the plot is really outstanding, the directing is also a top notch. Can't eait for more episode
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15 missjb
February 1, 2016 at 6:22 PM
Let's just say, this drama is better than misaeng so far in terms o f plot, The characterisation of the villain each case might be abit simplisitic (just like Harvest Villa), but the writers is really good at writing a great plot... I still rate Harvest Villa higher because that drama have more unpredictable... But hopefully, this drama will have more twist..
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16 blueribbon
February 1, 2016 at 6:27 PM
I wonder if this show is going to have romance, the love story of the show is most likely and more obviously JH and SH but after the latest episode the way HY looked at SH I wouldn't mind if it became a kind of noona romance, its just that I don't even know why but that look made me melt XD.
Its just that SH has suffered and unless they bring JH back in the future with her, she deserves to move on and have a happy life.
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Hooliah
February 1, 2016 at 6:35 PM
I really want to see HY and SH make out at least once--even if it doesn't turn into a relationship. They have chemistry, for sure. But I don't know if the show will go that way at all. :/
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elric
February 1, 2016 at 11:31 PM
Oh yesss!! Sparks flew when Hae-young approached Soo-hyun hahaha I wouldn't mind if there will be romance just as long as it makes sense or is develop properly without making the story suffer
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Me
February 2, 2016 at 11:57 AM
Me too me too! That scene caught me off guard, but wow that wasn't bad at all. I felt the sparks
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renebean
February 3, 2016 at 10:48 AM
Yeah especially in episode 4
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17 Hooliah
February 1, 2016 at 6:38 PM
I am obsessed with this show! I kind of wish I hadn't started watching it now because it seems like a really good show to marathon. I don't really have time to marathon shows these days though so maybe it's for the best!
I'm also really really obsessed with the opening song. I reallllly hope there's going to be a full version available on the post because I love it.
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18 casserole
February 1, 2016 at 7:33 PM
Does anyone know the name of the actress who plays the woman Jae-han has a crush on? She looks familiar.....
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Bebot
February 1, 2016 at 7:49 PM
Her name is Lee Shi Ah she was in Rain’s drama she’s so lovable the ex-girlfriend who died….she was also in Yoo Seung Ho drama Rmember war of the son as one of In Ah’s client as a prosecutor ?
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hm
February 1, 2016 at 7:56 PM
Lee Shi Ah (이시아)
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Lindy
February 1, 2016 at 8:03 PM
Her name is Lee Shi-ah and she is the heroine's "best friend" and romantic rival who becomes her mistress when the heroine is enslaved after her father is executed for treason in Maids. The character is a very jealous, spiteful and despicable person who gets her well deserved comeuppance in the end.
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Hooliah
February 1, 2016 at 8:32 PM
I'm not OP but this is exactly what I'm remembering her from! Thanks for helping me place it. :)
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Katzlove
February 2, 2016 at 12:16 AM
She's got that star effect, might be seeing her more often :)
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19 Bebot
February 1, 2016 at 7:47 PM
Her name is Lee Shi Ah she was in Rain's drama she's so lovable the ex-girlfriend who died....she was also in Yoo Seung Ho drama Rmember war of the son as one of In Ah's client as a prosecutor :D
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20 Fitri Iphiet
February 1, 2016 at 8:05 PM
I LOVE THIS SERIES SO MUCH!!! thank you for recapping cuz i enjoy reading comments and people's thought on this drama. hope they get the best rating and be loved by public! great acting <3
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21 samantha1
February 1, 2016 at 8:49 PM
My favorite drama as of the moment!
Thank you very much for the recap!
I wonder when the communication will become a trio :)
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22 Doaa
February 1, 2016 at 11:00 PM
Thanks for the recap and the conversations thst dramsbeans give, it is intriguing. I love this drama in every aspect and it always leaves me with so many questions (in a good way).
Please show keep the great work
Lots of love to you all
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23 marmari
February 1, 2016 at 11:01 PM
My heart can't take this. It's completely engrossing but the whole time a little voice in my head keeps repeating "please stay amazing, please stay amazing..."
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24 elric
February 1, 2016 at 11:34 PM
Won-kyung and Jae-han ??
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25 Jon G.
February 2, 2016 at 12:18 AM
The initial case in ep 1&2 wasn't particularly exciting for me, but the cold case squad thing so far is pretty great (and I wonder if all the references to The Wire are intentional).
I'm always expecting the worst when it comes to time-causality-breaking narratives (I'm looking at you, "Nine"), but so far, pretty good job by the writer! Almost everything is consistent and clear, and the few flaws or obscurities are not affecting the story-telling negatively.
The one thing that really bothers me about it: Apparently the characters have read the show's synopsis and they already know that they are in a time-"travel" story instead of reacting to it like actual people would.
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rainerust
February 2, 2016 at 4:52 AM
"The one thing that really bothers me about it: Apparently the characters have read the show’s synopsis and they already know that they are in a time-“travel” story instead of reacting to it like actual people would."
As in, you're referring to Jaehan's reaction to that crazy walkie talkie guy being in 2015? Lol cos Park Haeyoung did spend at least a bit more time looking mind blown that the radio is transmitting from the past.
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Jon G.
February 2, 2016 at 6:00 AM
Lee Jaehan's reaction was okay to some degree. But Park Hae-young didn't react the way a person like him should have reacted to these events.
What happened? HY witnessed a voice from an unpowered old walkie-talkie. The information he got from that voice led him to a corpse.
Later he witnessed how suddenly the world seems to be different after he talked with the unpowered walkie-talkie. And nobody but him seems to have noticed that anything changed.
Now, imagine you are a highly rational person, a person who tends to analyse each and every thing around you and who automatically uses Okham's razor to find the most plausible explanation. You are also knowledgeable in clinical psychology and psychiatry (as we have seen using expertise from these fields in his profiling routines).
What would be the first idea in your head, given the evidence above? Very simple: It's a textbook case of a psychotic episode, auditory hallucinations as well as a loss of grasp of reality.
This thought didn't seem to cross his mind even once. Which is good, because it would be impossible for him to prove that he did NOT suffer from a psychotic episode.
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Jon G.
February 2, 2016 at 6:03 AM
Btw, I may be a little bit sensitive to this specific writing blunder, because it was featured so prominently in the worst piece of literature ever written: "Left Behind".
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rainerust
February 2, 2016 at 7:44 AM
Ahhhh I see. Yeah...would've been hard for him to disprove being psychotic...and would have turned the tone of this drama into something entirely different (the pianist? Inception??) so for dramatic narrative purposes I'm willing to suspend disbelief hahaha.
Jon G.
February 2, 2016 at 8:25 AM
I really liked the fact that JH finally got suspected to be the serial killer himself. Because that's gonna happen when you tell other policemen about your perpetrator's knowledge.
Jon G.
February 2, 2016 at 8:31 AM
It's not entirely impossible, but it would have taken some time, especially if he also wants to prove that the whole magical walkie-talkie is the real deal.
But he really should have asked the obvious question: Am I having a psychotic episode right now? It could have been written in a way that he can dispel the idea on medical grounds, of course.
26 CaroleMcDonnell
February 2, 2016 at 6:01 AM
I'm still liking this but I find the easy plotting disappointing. Convenient plotting happens in kdrama, yes, but stuff happens that makes the mystery and police work a bit too easy. Folks leaving in the middle of a phone conversation and not hearing the entire story for instance. Convenient, but not logical even if we have a hot-headed hero. Still, I did get touched by the end of ep 4 so i'll be sticking with this. Thanks for the recap.
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Jon G.
February 2, 2016 at 6:11 AM
Convenience can really hurt you in a thriller genre, and especially if the overall writing is pretty solid. The audience will spot these instances and that can kill the suspense or hurt the characters.
Example: HY talked into the unresponsive phone about the 9th murder to give JH enough information to stop it. JH was in the cell and couldn't answer. Still HY was convinced JH was listening. Acceptable.
HY however forget to mention where exactly the 9th victim was found. Unacceptable. Not only is this out of character for him, it's also very easy to guess how that lack of information will affect the story.
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juniper
February 2, 2016 at 2:56 PM
Yeah, I agree, especially considering they're walking in the footsteps of giants with this plot arc...I found this week an improvement on last week, and I think the slick, polished no-nonsense execution compensates for the shortcuts the writer is taking...but at the same time I still felt so underwhelmed by and disappointed in how easily things unfolded and were resolved, as you said. Oh well. I guess I should just be glad that they've already cleared the Memories of Murder overlap without any major whatthefuckery.
But there was so little thematic/emotional consciousness there in regards to what the murders meant, or what trading one life for another signified--there was one great moment, and that was when Jae-han conveyed the immediacy of the victim's lives and deaths to Hae-young. I hope they can do more with that in the future.
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27 Adal
February 2, 2016 at 6:34 AM
I think Hae young was the only one who knew about the ripple effect in the time conundrum because he caused it and it came as a direct result of his actions.
Because he interfered and exposed the future to someone living in the past, he saved two lives (Lee Mi Sun and her daughter), but was directly responsible for the death of two other people, Hwang Min jung's coworker and also the poor guy who died in police custody.
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28 LillyLee
February 2, 2016 at 4:55 PM
This show is my drama crack right now.
I love every episode.
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29 Anon
March 5, 2016 at 9:28 PM
Even though there's no romance plotline, I find myself shipping PHY and CSH...
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30 Hana
March 10, 2016 at 10:08 AM
I've been enjoying this show so far. My only gripe would be the fact they took a real life murder case and turned it into something not true. What happened to the real girls of this episode's story was horrible and the fact this drama changed it around to have one of the victims survive, I think was a bad choice. Anybody who has read about this case would know that known of the women survived and it is depressing enough to know that the suspect was never found. To take a tragic, real life, murder case and change the results...I don't know, I just feel that was wrong. Obviously if it was not a true story, I would not mind it, but the fact that it is true and we know the true story of what happened and that it is turned completely around in a drama...
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Hana
March 10, 2016 at 11:59 AM
Well now that I think about it, I guess it is not as weird as I thought. I mean at least someone was able to survive, instead of all the victims dying. At first I just felt weird and sad because I know in real life that this case would never be solved and the fact that it was able to get solved in a drama was unfair for those who knew the actual victims. I think I'm dwelling too much on the "real life" and not just enjoying the drama.
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