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Descended from the Sun: Episode 2

We get to the meat of the story in this episode, which is simple on the outside but seems deep with potential for conflict and heartbreak. If nothing else this is an absolutely gorgeous drama, in every possible way. We also get a better look at our leading characters in this episode, with Mo-yeon’s strong sense of justice and respect for life, and Shi-jin’s mischievous sense of humor combined with his fierce loyalty to home and country.

EPISODE 2 RECAP

With a promise to see her soon and one wistful look back, Shi-jin leaves Mo-yeon on the roof to join his team for a top-secret mission. Mo-yeon watches his helicopter take off, and she’s joined by her colleague SONG SANG-HYUN (Lee Seung-joon), who asks what she’s staring at.

She asks him almost distractedly if people in the Special Forces get helicopter escorts and sometimes get shot, and he says that really never happens. Mo-yeon wonders who exactly Shi-jin is, then.

Shi-jin is now in Afghanistan, on a mission to rescue two UN representatives who have been kidnapped by the Taliban. During a practice run, the Korean team’s rookie sets off a booby trap, causing both Shi-jin and Dae-young to holler at him.

An American(?) soldier throws his dagger into a box next to Shi-jin’s head and yells at them to go back home, and of course Shi-jin can’t let that go. He hurls the dagger right back, where it sticks into a box right between the other soldier’s legs.

Now it’s on, and Shi-jin and the other soldier fight viciously, seeming evenly matched. Dae-young holds the rookie back from getting involved, telling him that when Special Forces from different countries get together, something like this always happens. It’s a test to see if the other side is strong and trustworthy.

The fight is pretty awesome actually, between the American’s strength and Shi-jin’s quickness and agility (at one point he literally climbs the other guy). You get the sense that they could do this all day, but the captain finally breaks up the fight and orders them back to work.

Mo-yeon complains to her colleague DR. PYO about the position she’s applying for, apparently for the third time, and her friend is certain that she’ll be accepted this time. Another doctor comes in to make snarky comments to Mo-yeon, seeing as how she’s up for the same job and certain she’ll get it.

The two seem pretty antagonistic, and they end up in the same surgery room, where the snarky woman, Dr. Kim, happily chirps that there’s been a change in plans — she’s in charge, and Mo-yeon will be assisting her. They continue to trade barbs while operating, until something goes wrong and the patient starts to bleed out.

Some pretty slick editing switches us between Mo-yeon’s operation and Afghanistan, where the Special Forces are beginning the real mission. Shi-jin’s team infiltrates the building where the UN workers are being held, while Mo-yeon works fast to save the patient.

Things get ugly during the mission — a booby trap is set off and shots are fired, but Shi-jin and Dae-young manage to keep themselves and their team alive, for the moment. Shi-jin gets creative as he works his way to the heart of the building, and shoots the Taliban kidnappers just as they’re about to kill the hostages. The hostages are saved — mission complete.

At the same time, Mo-yeon stabilizes her patient and orders Dr. Kim to finish the surgery. Dr. Kim complies, but she’s not at all happy about Mo-yeon having to step in to save her surgery.

Mo-yeon could chew nails as she leaves the operating room, ranting about how that doctor nearly killed their patient, but a third doctor, DR. JANG, follows to tell her she did a good job, which calms her down. She pats Dr. Jang’s belly and tells her unborn baby that her mother did a good job too, and Dr. Jang is happy to announce that the father finally proposed.

The father just happens to be another doctor at the hospital, LEE CHI-HOON (SHINee’s Onew). He sidles up to Mo-yeon and makes faces until she catches on that he wants to talk to her privately, smiling way too brightly until Dr. Jang walks away. He admits to Mo-yeon that he lost his couple ring during surgery, and finally finds it in the scrub hamper next to them. He’s pretty adorable, but also seems like a giant doofus.

Mo-yeon wonders out loud to Dr. Pyo how Dr. Jang managed to get pregnant in the first place when they’re always working, and Dr. Pyo just says that it’s a big hospital, ha. She asks if Mo-yeon has heard from Shi-jin again, but she hasn’t, and Dr. Pyo wonders if he’s a spy. She catches Mo-yeon mooning at his X-ray; Mo-yeon says it’s the only picture she has of him, and it makes her grin widely.

Mo-yeon steps outside after an overnight shift for some fresh air, dressed in her sweats with her hair a mess. When she sees Shi-jin beaming at her from across the street she tries to hide her face, complaining that he’s two hours early for their date. Shi-jin just says that it felt good to have someone to wait for, which is so adorable but also a little sad.

He asks why she’s covering her face, and she says that she’s not wearing any makeup. Seeming completely honest, he tells her, “You’re pretty enough now.” Mo-yeon asks if she doesn’t need to take a shower then, and Shi-jin quickly offers to drive her home. HAHA.

She invites him in to wait while she gets ready, and asks if he minds ordering some food because she’s starving. Shi-jin pouts that he was going to take her out for a nice meal, but he’s mollified when Mo-yeon says that it’s the company that matters.

Mo-yeon’s water is cut off for non-payment right as she lathers her hair, but she pretends that everything is fine and goes back out to Shi-jin with her hair in a towel. It doesn’t fool him for a second and he holds up the shutoff notice, and Mo-yeon just quickly grabs some bottled water and runs back to the bathroom. Cute.

As they eat, Shi-jin asks if Mo-yeon thought of him while he was gone. She easily admits it and asks the same of him, and he says that he thought about her a lot. Then when she suggests they get coffee at the movie, he can’t resist teasing, “I should get a bottle of water…”

At the movies, Mo-yeon says that the most exciting part is right before they turn the lights off. Shi-jin leans over to whisper that this is the most exciting moment of his life, being with a beautiful woman right before they turn the lights off. He’s going to have me swooning a lot, isn’t he?

He brings up the fact that she spoke banmal just now, figuring that she saw his age on his chart, and asks how old she is. She skirts the question but says definitely his noona, and he jokes that he’ll need to see some ID to prove it.

Shi-jin gets another call from his commanding officer, and disappointment is written all over his face when he says he has to go. Mo-yeon is obviously upset as well, and she tells him she’ll stay and see the movie alone. He’s not happy about it but he has to leave, and says he’ll call her.

As soon as he’s gone Mo-yeon gets her own emergency call from Chi-hoon, and she runs back to the hospital to find out that she didn’t get the job, again. The snooty Dr. Kim was offered the position because of her family connections, even though the senior doctor had all but promised the job to Mo-yeon.

She’s tired of his excuses for not promoting her, wondering what the reason will be next time. Dr. Kim arrives and starts ordering Mo-yeon around immediately, and taking a lot of pleasure in it to boot. She tells Mo-yeon to cover for her on a television show the following day, because she’s got some schmoozing to do, and will be too hung over.

But Mo-yeon is a thousand percent done putting up with her crap, calls her a bitch, and says she’s sorry for the patients who get stuck with Dr. Kim. The other woman grabs Mo-yeon’s hair, Mo-yeon grabs back, and the others have to physically break up the fight.

Mo-yeon takes herself to a quiet hallway to cry it out, attempting to memorize the information for the TV show despite being unable to speak for sobbing, finally giving up and wailing.

Shi-jin and Dae-young return from their surprise mission, and thankfully nobody was hurt or killed. Their commanding officer rewards them for all their recent hard work with an eight-month break, which isn’t the vacation it sounds like. They’re being deployed, with only two weeks to visit with family before they leave.

Their team looks happy, since this means they will just be regular soldiers for eight months — no special missions, which for them is considered a break. But both Dae-young and Shi-jin take the news hard.

The next morning Shi-jin goes looking for Mo-yeon, and finds her just as she’s doing her live broadcast. He watches her on television, smiling with his heart in his eyes. He’s such a smitten kitten.

He waits at her house for her to come home, and the mood is tense as they go for coffee. Shi-jin apologizes for leaving Mo-yeon that way, but she says that what she really wants is an explanation. He says that he didn’t go far, but that’s all he’s allowed to say.

He can’t even confirm whether or not he’s a spy, and Mo-yeon admits that she thought of him a lot today. She wondered where he disappears to, and what he does, but then she can’t even get answers when she sees him. She tries to put the clues together on her own, and Shi-jin can only give her this sad look, as if he’d love nothing more than to tell her everything.

She asks if he kills people, and if they’re at least bad people, but meets with silence again. She says that her job is to fight for people’s life, and deduces that his job is to protect others by using death. Shi-jin gives the tiniest nod at that, and his only defense is that he’s a soldier, and soldiers follow orders. He doesn’t have the luxury of deciding what’s right or wrong.

He tells Mo-yeon that he’s lost three friends in combat, and that he believes that what he’s fighting for, at least, is peace and freedom. Mo-yeon counters that as a doctor, she believes that nothing is more important than life, and Shi-jin can’t argue with that. She tells him that this wasn’t quite the meeting she was hoping it would turn out to be, effectively ending their brief relationship. Shi-jin says he understands and lets her go, adding that it was nice meeting her.

Shi-jin broods in the shower, but not for long, as Dae-young joins him and they discuss their upcoming deployment. They each avoid talking about their respective love interests, preferring not to go into detail about why they’re not spending time with them before they leave.

Eight months later.

Still on deployment (in a fictional country named Uruk), Shi-jin takes a break while his men sweep a hillside for explosives, and everyone goes on alert when a live one is located. One of the bomb experts asks what they should do — if they report it they’ll be told to leave it alone until the U.S. troops arrive.

Noting the small crowd of children that are gathering, Shi-jin has the man repeat his personal motto: “Go easy and all will be well. Avoid hard work.” Hard work is defined as sending memos, which, ha. Basically, he’s prepared to handle this situation right now, on their own.

Cut to: Shi-jin and Dae-young pulled up in front of their commander, in big trouble for not reporting a live bomb. I just love Shi-jin’s dry sense of humor, as he says, “My second in command didn’t stop me.” And then he whines at Dae-young for not stopping him… doesn’t he know how much he loves sending memos? I feel bad for Dae-young, having to put up with Shi-jin all the time.

Shi-jin and Dae-young are punished to run in full gear, and aww, their entire platoon joins them in solidarity… for about three seconds, and then they run back to their barracks, giggling like fools. Boys.

As it turns out, Mo-yeon made such a good impression on her first live broadcast that she’s now a regular on the show, where she gives medical advice to viewers. It’s made her a bit of a celebrity, and she’s now in charge of some pretty high-profile VIP patients. Their complaints seem trivial to Mo-yeon — stress, DNA testing to determine paternity on illegitimate children, and even one businessman who can’t keep up sexually with his young girlfriend.

Her friend Sang-hyun teases her for being too important to mingle with the lowly surgeon peons lately, though Mo-yeon is aware that things could change on a dime again. It doesn’t stop her from clocking Dr. Kim’s snort of jealousy, though.

Dr. Kim snarks that if she’s not careful, people will start to think Mo-yeon is an actual doctor, and Mo-yeon shoots back that she’s hardly a doctor either — she’s just her father’s daughter. Oh burn. It’s obvious that Dr. Kim is jealous of Mo-yeon’s celebrity, and Mo-yeon isn’t above reminding her that she only got on the show because Dr. Kim thought she was too important to do it herself.

Mo-yeon goes to the roof that night, remembering how Shi-jin had asked her out here, then flown off in a helicopter. We see that when they’d eaten at her place that one time, she’d lit a candle and insisted he not move it, because she’d carefully calculated the best place for it to light her face perfectly. How much do I love that she just admits it?

He’d asked about her work, and she’d told him that she looks pretty sexy when suited up for surgery. She held her hands up to show how her mask accentuates her eyes, and Shi-jin joked that he wants to date that girl.

Still on deployment, Shi-jin finds a soldier digging a hole and awww, it’s Ki-bum, the thief that Dae-young took special interest in. Shi-jin starts to show him how to dig more efficiently when the shovel handle breaks, and Ki-bum laughs that that’s why he was digging carefully.

Shi-jin smiles just a bit when he sees that he’s cut his hand — it reminds him how Mo-yeon never believed him that he was injured “doing labor,” and now he actually has been. He realizes that Ki-bum is writing on his arm the same way he did to the kid (“injured shoveling,” heh), and orders him to attention.

When Dae-young finds them, Shi-jin asks why he brought this kid anyway, and Dae-young simply says, “I like him.” As it turns out, Ki-bum is a great cook, and he’s in charge of making dinner for their sergeant’s birthday today. With his trademark mischievous grin, Shi-jin offers to be in charge of procuring the wine.

They head to a bar, where they argue over who the pretty waitress was aiming her come-hither eyes at. A girl comes in to buy a gun from that same waitress, and for some reason she levels it at the guys. Shi-jin quickly takes it and points it back at her, then disassembles it, asking why she’s buying a gun if she doesn’t even know how to use it.

She retorts that she’s buying it not to kill, but for protection, taking her gun and leaving. Shi-jin asks the waitress who the girl was, but she lets him know firmly that she doesn’t sell information.

Coincidentally, Mo-yeon’s hospital has interests in Uruk as well, and is planning on building an eco-friendly power plant there. They’ve put a call out for volunteers, and Chi-hoon is the first to sign up. The hospital’s director asks Mo-yeon to have dinner with him that night, and with no other information, the doctors all assume it’s a date.

But Mo-yeon is taken aback when Director Han makes it clear that they’re spending the evening at his place, and not just for dinner. He even offers to let her shower first, the slimeball. That handbag to the face was well-deserved.

Mo-yeon wails to Dr. Pyo — what will she do now that she’s assaulted the hospital director? She has to sit through a meeting he’s running about the power plant, and finds herself voluntold for duty in retaliation. At least he made her team leader?

Shi-jin’s team is notified of which doctors will be coming over, so he knows that she’s arriving soon. Dae-young wonders if it’s fate, but Shi-jin just says that it’s a passing coincidence.

Slimeball Director Han calls Mo-yeon one last time as the team is waiting on the tarmac in Uruk for their UN escort, and offers her one last chance to come back — on his terms, of course. She basically calls him a lowlife right in front of everyone, reminding him that she has connections and has even been on television, so she’ll be tendering her resignation the moment she arrives back in Korea. Okay, I officially love her.

The team is relieved to see their escort arrive by helicopter, and who else could it be but Shi-jin and his platoon. Mo-yeon recognizes Shi-jin immediately and freezes, memories of their short time together rushing through her mind…

… and Shi-jin walks right past her.

COMMENTS

It was a strong first week for Descended from the Sun, both rating-wise and story-wise. I’ve been burned before by strong beginnings, but I hope against hope that the fact that it’s pre-produced means that we can expect this level of quality throughout the run of the drama. While the first episode didn’t do much beyond introducing the characters, I thought that this episode set up the central conflict and romance quite well, giving us lots of information and some really nice character moments but never feeling rushed. I feel like I know the characters already, what’s important to them both personally and professionally, and so far I just really like them all. It’s a great start.

While I’m normally one to pay attention to characterizations and relationships first and foremost in a drama, I can’t help but be super impressed with the way this drama is shot, so far. The benefits of pre-production shine brilliantly here, especially in the fight scenes, where interesting angles and creative lighting add as much to the action as the actual combat. I was especially charmed by the scene which had Shi-jin’s mission and Mo-yeon’s surgery weaving and intertwining with each other, setting off and highlighting how each of them finds themselves battling life and death, though in very different ways. The gorgeous way the two scenes switched back and forth was as beautiful as it was innovative, and it’s my hope that, having had the luxury of time to do it right, we get these sorts of treats throughout the drama.

That said, I have to agree with the criticisms about the music editing, because though I actually do like the OST songs quite a lot so far, the use of music is so heavy-handed in some scenes as to completely distract from what’s actually happening in the scene. When your audience can’t even enjoy the moment because they’re rolling their eyes at yet another loud, obvious musical cue, it’s time to find a new way to introduce dramatic tension. You’ve hired some of the best actors money can buy — let them do the work you hired them to do! We don’t need overwrought music to tell us when one character finds another character attractive (plus, we have eyes).

But it’s the characters that really draw me in and hold my attention, and I find myself already very invested in Shi-jin and Mo-yeon, and their growing relationship. It’s so refreshing to see a couple who not only admit their attraction to themselves, but to each other as well, and so early on in the run of the show. Their conflict of beliefs is one I look forward to seeing more of, as they struggle to reconcile their differing ideals regarding life and whether it’s okay to take one life in order to preserve another. The actors are more than capable of expressing these conflicts brilliantly — the scene where they realized that their values clash so profoundly was heartbreaking, and that’s before they’re even in love. Once they can’t deny their feelings anymore, I predict a lot of angst in their future. But for me, I prefer love stories in which the conflict keeping the lovebirds apart is internal rather than external — I’d much rather see a couple struggle against their belief systems, and try to find a way to love each other in spite of conflicting moral values, than the most evil mother-in-law you could imagine.

I’ve been burned too many times to let myself get too excited about Descended, but for the moment, I find the positives greatly outweighing the negatives. Like I said, I’m hoping that avoiding the live shoot system also means that we’ll avoid the many pitfalls that go along with it, and that the show will continue at this level consistently. The show has everything going for it at this point, and I’ll be cheering it on as we go forth into battle.

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The second ep was soo much better than the first ...
That music director is seriously impeding my enjoyment of their romantic scenes.. although now that it's pre produced.. They can't really alter it much ..

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Oh I thot the opposite, I very much prefer the first ep

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They can still change the music, they have sound engineers and such for that. Post-processing is all possible as long as it hasn't aired yet. When they talk about pre-preducing, they're referring to how things are filmed in advance vs the system of live shooting.

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Aha! Good to know; the music is interfering with my enjoyment of what is overall a pretty good show. So far.

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So how would we rank "I loooooovvvveee you" on an annoyability scale of 0 -100% against such 'beloved' OSTs as "Love is the Mooooment", " Almost Paaaradiiiise" and "You are my Deeestiinyyy"...

My ranking
YAMD - 43%
AP - 56%
LITM - 72%
I<3u - 99.9%

I still love the show tho, lol. I just have zero likability for this particular OST... And I'm totally a drama OST person... My iPod is full of drama OSTs...

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Urm... I like the song itself while I didn't like the other ones much, so I'm going to give it a lower annoy-ability score. It's just the placement of it. But ask me again after 16-20 eps. Haha.

I <3 u= 40% (and rising)

Love is the moooooment- 99.9%

Almost Paradise (that one had overuse of so many other songs too) - 60%

You are my destiny - 65%

And yes, it's funny we recognize all these songs and rating how irritated we got. Smirk.

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YAMD - 92%
AP - 88.8%
LITM - 74%
I<3U - 24%

I notice tracks I like immediately, but it takes a couple of repetitions to clock the ones I don't like - and then I LOATHE THEM and dread them. Like, I'll see two characters start to lean towards each other and think "no, no no, don't do it, don't play th.... AAAAAAAAAGH!"

It's pretty much the opposite effect than the one the director wants: conditioning your viewer to yell "no! STOP IT!" at the TV during romantic builds.

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Oh, I didn't realize that Yoon Mirae sings that song "I love you" (Always). I've liked her since Touch Love from Master's Sun. No wonder I liked the song even if not the use of it (except for the ending of ep 2, where I thought it was appropriately used...but I'm sometimes a sucker for sad scenes imbued with histrionic music).

Still sticking with my 40% annoyance rating for overuse and bad placement. Heh.

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I'm glad there's people that agree. I wasn't so sure whether it was the timing of the songs or the choice of songs chosen. None of the ost i'm finding is spectacular to me yet, it smells of 'recycled mainstream ballad airplay'. If only they hired whoever is in charge of Signal ost haha.

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The "Signal" soundtrack has me dancing through the opening credits (but not the show itself because it is too intense for moving/thinking/breathing).

I also really like the light, breezy soundtrack in "Cheese in the Trap".

DftS is unfortunately old-school Korean sound design.

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Oh gosh, me too! I also have it downloaded onto my phone and play it a lot too.

I love how it's got a slower, much old-fashioned beat, it makes me dance like Young Shin in Healer.

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Me too . i prefered more the second ep

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pls how can i download it

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I think she "broke up" with him, and it wasn't about his work or idealism, it was more about her, she was having an awful day, and she needs someone to lean on, but at the same time she didn't know him enough to count on him and she don't expect it. He left her twice because of work. Maybe if she didn't have the problem at work she would be more understanding. And he was about to tell her about his eight months missions. It would appear weird to make her wait for him or go on the mission because of him. They needed to be apart.
I like how them flirt like adults. It's refreshing.

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I have seen doctors like that but those that who are new and young.

I didn't expect a 30+ woman to have such a black/white approach though. You expect that with age and experience you realise that there are no absolutes. So that kind of struck as me too self righteous.

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What youre saying makes sense. I thinkk its better that they broke up for reason which is not being there when she was at some really low point. That makes more sense.

How can you think of not wanting to date because he is a soldier who follow order and might kill people. That 1 dimensional thinking is unrealistic

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Well u know actually its make sense to me..because if u look from doctor's perspective we know their job is to save people without discrimination.. But the soldier save their people by kill the enemy..its pretty much contradicting to me..and u know who wants their loved one have a job where they can be killed anytime and can't come back..so maybe she decide that break up..

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Well, I cannot agree there, on the contrary, I find it quite realistic: They just met and she got stood up twice and realized the type of life the guy is leading...it might make anyone to rethink to go ahead with it. They are not so close or in love yet, so for her is not so difficult to decide to stay away, even if she likes him...

It's one of the things that I like about this show, for example the way the leads met and how he asks her out, it's not necessary to be Romeo&Juliet for a love story to be exciting... I like how it feels realistic (except for the helicopter thing :P). I like so much that they are flirting and showing that they like each other, not the typical love-hate drama attraction..., it made me remember situations I went through and relive some emotions, so now I am on board and wanting for more, though I am a bit scared that this is the same writer that produced the Heirs XD

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If you mean you find it reasonable that she "broke up" with him because he stood her up twice, I agree with you there. But that's not her stated reason. She ended things (such as they were) because she didn't like his values, or something.

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Not that I think there are right or wrong reasons for breaking things off with someone. Everyone has the right to break up with a partner for any reason, at any time. One partner judging the other is an especially good reason for a relationship to end.

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Well, to me it looked like she realized they had very different lifestyles and it might not be a good idea to keep going. After all, they only had one date (rather half-date), so it barely fits the concept of breaking up.
Her speech was a way to tell him how different she thought they were and that things would not work. So I did not find it that strange...

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Sometimes, you need ti have the "feels" to be with someone who you know yoi can rely on at times when you're feeling down. I think that time they "broke up", she's in the state where all disappointments, helplessness came down all at ones. And there's this guy, whom she's starting to have feelings for, can't be communicated with. The heaviness of whst we carry can be lessened once we've shared it to those we have emotional attachments. And this should be reciprocated.

We tend to make grand excuses even of it's only simple.

*I'm blabbing. Can't seem to express the miscommunication that led to their break up.

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It's a blend of him being unavailable, the secrecy, and then the killing. And I also didn't get the feeling that she was trying to pin values as "the reason" - they talked about a lot at coffee, and I think it just snowballed into a breakup.

She's not wrong. She had a terrible, awful 48 hours and if they stick together, there's absolutely no guarantee he would be around to hear about her day. And if he was, then there couldn't be sharing because he can't tell her about HIS day. If you lay out that future, the instant click you feel with someone else gets a lot less clicky, especially when their frequent absences might end up being permanent absences because clearly they do things that could get them killed.

I thought it was a great, realistic scene, especially since the two of them seem to "get" each other on many other levels. The things that keep them apart really are artificial, but they're both entrenched in (and very good at) their jobs, so it's not like there's a choice to give up work for love.

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They barely knew each other. He stood her up, their lifestyles were totally at odds and she didn't like his values, so really I don't see what's wrong with it. It's realistic. Even the being stood up is a deal breaker for me in a new relationship.

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Bum

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Yup. I'm a health professional and I thought she was being self-righteous. I also didn't like her in the first episode. I thought she was officious and making much ado about nothing.

I'm watching for Song Joong Ki :)

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Well she wasn't outing him or claiming he's a bad person, just recognizing they have some fundamentally different philosophies. I don't think it was self-righteous at all, she was being an adult and recognizing that differences in ideologies make a difference in a relationship.

That said, I totally agree with @laisF that a lot of it was also the bad day, the standing up, etc. It doesn't mean that she didn't have a point though about their philosophies, just that that's not all that's going on.

I think in that moment the relationship just felt overburdened with potential problems and current ones even in the baby stages, and breaking up just made more sense.

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@sel Exactly! They even may have different ideologies, and certainly had a weight in her decision. But because of the pressure of work and for her right now would be a lot to deal with. For some reason I remembered my sister, she was dating this guy for a few weeks and she decided to break up with him because of the pressure she was having at work, and he was already talking about thing more serious, and mine sister wasn't ready to think about anything else except work, so she ended thing. After things calmed down little bit at work my sister talked to him and things went back to normal.
Somehow everything left her to took that decision, maybe if she got that promotion, things to flow better, who knows?

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@lindl... Are we saying it's one or the another? Cos I happen to think it was likely both reasons that led to the break up... I mean, even if she wasn't judging him for taking lives... Would any self-preserving be excited to date a person who can't tell them the specifics of their job and has walked out of every date they have had?

I think not really... Feelings must run deeper for that kind of sacrifice.

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Self-preserving woman*...

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Actually, as I said in a reply to Elena above, I would find it reasonable if Moyeon broke up with Shijin because of the interrupted dates. And, as you and others have mentioned, the fact that he can't even tell her what he's doing. But her stated reason for ending things is that their values were too different. Of course, there's nothing wrong with that. As I said in another post, everyone has the right to break up with anyone for any reason at any time.

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I agree that it's a combination of having a tough day and realizing that if their relationship progresses, she is not sure if she can count on him to be there to support and encourage her. Their coffee talk is one of my favorite scenes. You can almost see their shared disappointment that this great initial attraction did not lead to the results they have hoped for.

Did anyone think that maybe MY was hoping that SJ would have fought for her a little harder. After her speech, she paused, almost hoping he would disagree with her. Instead, he was so understanding that he said 'good bye' first. Only then did she get up to leave.

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@Beanizbaby I noticed that pause too! It really seemed like she was still holding onto a sliver of hope that shijin would disagree and fight for her. The acting was excellent at that part! Kudos to Song hye kyo.

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I agree with you!! The character does nothing for me....

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he really kills people. it can sound disgusting to MY. their disposition is opposite. i think it can happen.

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I feel its kinda ridiculous too, but then again maybe at that age, theyre looking for partners for life, and if even before their relationship starts for real, they have diff beliefs already, its better to cut it off immediately than wasting time trying~?

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I don't think the break up was just because he protects people by killing at least not entirely. It was not because he stood her up either, because if anyone could understand that aspect, it would be her. Her job similar to his requires that she leaves whatever she is doing if there is an emergency. She did kind of stood him up in first episode too and she might have done the same in any of their dates too.

In my opinion the real problem lies in that she had a very bad day and during that time she was thinking about him and his absence. It proved that something deep could develop between them; however, when he tells her that he can't say anything about his job, she realizes how serious his job is and consequences of it. The problem isn't just the possibility of him killing someone, but also that he might get killed himself too. Not to mention that she might not even know about it, if something happened to him considering the secrecy some of his mission includes. This also came at time when she lost something she carried a lot about, so it was a defensive mechanism something similar happening. Which can also be seen later in how he approaches her job.

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@Lwx_23. Exactly. I agree with this one too...

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I like the way you think.

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I agree with your thought. at first she just thought that he just a regular soldier not some elite that would suddenly been called and off to battle field and might get killed and kill someone. perhaps she already think a head of her future with him and that overwhelm her because he will me nowhere often and she can see him that is why she said that. better to end it soon rather that suffer for long after she loved him so much then. heck I would do the same.

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This makes sense. I'm also glad you pointed out that a doctor, of all people, should be understanding of another person with an irregular work schedule. But she didn't really seem understanding. She acted hurt at the movie theater. Nothing wrong with that, of course, and I'd feel hurt, too, if it happened to me. Basically I just don't think I like the character as she's written.

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because of her job, she understands the emergency call. If she was ignorant of it, she would think it lightly. but she knows well.
she wouldn't want a partner with irregular job schedule.
the drama shows they are different and similar.
she is competent at her job but doesn't always like getting orders from seniors.
he also doesn't follow orders.

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Yep. Honestly, even if he's SJK most people would get out of that "relationship" really quickly before they actually did fall for the guy.

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I hear what you're saying and the thing is, even if one says, ok, I won't be judgemental and I won't have a black and white attitude his military profession, it doesn't mean that it is all that easy to accommodate it for real in one's life.

If your worldview is aligned towards pacifism, and you abhor violence, guns, taking of life, and have strong political views against military force or certain foreign policy etc etc - even if you know your own views are not infallible in certain contexts, it can be hard to think you'll be in a close relationship or even marry someone whose life is completely aligned on opposite values.

Being together would take a lot of blocking out of truths and not really stepping onto uncomfortable conversations, and it might just feel like there's a great chasm in the relationship. No amount of sex appeal of a very fit man in uniform will easily overcome that.

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In my posts above, I sound like I'm arguing against breaking up with people over values, but that's exactly what I would do myself. Having similar values with a partner is extremely important to me. I think I just happen not to like the Moyeon character; it's like everything she does rubs me the wrong way.

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That's fair enough. I understood what you meant about not having black and white simplistic reactions too. For the record, I think I was answering bips99 though.

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I find it weird that she started dating a soldier in the first place if she was so opposed to violence. I mean, shouldn't she have realised right back in episode 1 that he kills people?

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Good point. But maybe Korean troops don't really see a lot of action, in the ordinary course of things? Still, it's in the job description.

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In the ordinary course of things, they don't, but she should have known by the end of their first attempt at a date that he wasn't an ordinary soldier. I feel like the gunshot wound and the helicopter were pretty big hints.

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Well, yes, about the helicopter. I thought it was weird that the gunshot wound was a big deal, and that Moyeon's being able to recognize one was a big deal. There's a lot that's weird about the writing in this show. It's like the writer doesn't really do her research, or doesn't think too hard about the plot.

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>It’s like the writer doesn’t really do her research, or doesn’t think too hard about the plot.

Maybe c) all of the above ? ;)

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Can't say much about Hospitals and gunshots; however, South Korea does have very strict gun control, so it might really be unusual for doctors to have seen gunshot wounds. This is kinda ironic as most of adult male population will have some kind of experience in handling guns. Then again even if something is restricted it doesn't mean people can't acquire it.

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About the gunshot wound...did anyone else besides me understand that it was really a knife wound????? The two guys were battling with knives in the DMZ building - having put their guns down due to the "first shot" rule. This was a real disconnect to me - that the wound would be referred to as by a gunshot in the hospital. There were no guns fired in that altercation and we saw him grimace as he was stabbed.

Am I wrong? Did I miss something?

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lunatic, I think Moyeon was referring to a scar above the knife wound. The scar was what she recognized as a gunshot wound, if I'm not mistaken.

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With age and experience, you also see some of this coming, though. She's had an incredibly rough day, and now she's faced with this guy she barely knows but the things she does know are: he's into her, he's been called away on each of their two dates, he's got a mysterious (but legit) job that he can't tell her about, that job sometimes gets him shot, and that he probably kills people.

I don't think she's being self-righteous, she's being a blend of cautious and practical. If she wants someone who will be home at the end of the day and will be able to talk with her about their days, it's not him. He could very well show up missing a couple of fingers and not be able to tell her why. That is terrifying.

I thought this was a very mature and realistic scene. And as she says, I don't think she intended it to work out this way - but she pursued logical trains of thought. And I think the secrecy element is the real relationship-killer here: not only does she know he kills people, but she can never know the circumstances. That's troubling.

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I agree with you and Kay. I think that's totally what an adult woman will do.

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I agree. Most of us value the ability to share our lives with someone. What does that look like if you can't talk about or share a major part of your life with someone important to you. Every time he returned from a mission, she can't ask him any questions. Their initial attractionfir each other, no matter how amazing, will not be able to sustain a life long relationship.

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I agree with this comment...she's a grown adult woman with a professional career...she's past the puppy love stage. I think it made sense for her to sort her feelings out right there and then, rather then dwell over the possibility of starting something with a man who can't even tell her his job. Why should she own him the benefit of the doubt? She barely knows the dude. She only knows she is attracted to him and he is to her....that's why all they did was flirt thus far.

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@laisF. I agree with you... I happen to think it was that ...and the idealism combined which made her walk away... That* being her wanting to be able to rely on him...

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I am really not shocked about her behaviour toward him cause most doctors are like that. They expect everyone to understand their situations but they never even try to understand others'situation. SJ is a soldier and he never hidden that from her therefore what is it that she expect from him. Would she divulge information about her patient to SJ.....never but she wants him to tell her everything. NOT FAIR AT ALL

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Second comment yay

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Thanks for your recap. I love it. It has been so long since I said I loved a drama. SHK and SJK are both doing a great job on which brings so much life into their characters.

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It's hilarious, there's so much I don't like about this drama, but it's really fun to watch. It has been a while since there's been a good like cheese-munching drama. Just drama and something entertaining and prolly little sense to keep you going but you keep going and enjoy it. Here's hoping! :)

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I'm already counting the days till I can see Song Joongki pretty face again. Come fast, Wednesday!

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Am I the only one who noticed the luggages rolling away when the helicopter was hovering above them?

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me too ... me too ... it made me giggle for some reason. i kept wondering if a light weighted person would be dragged along with it like in a charlie chaplin movie.... *i-need-to-grow-up*

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Nope you not the only one...saw that too.

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Haha, I was looking at the luggages, too!

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Nope, I noticed it too.

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I loved that part, hahaha

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Nope :)
And I was asking myself would the roll away if there where actual things inside :)

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Lol. That was so funny. And one of the actress turn to look but looked back as if nothing happened. I wonder if it had stuff in it would it have rolled away.

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What luggage ?!

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@MinaBoom...The luggage of the medical team when they arrived at URK and the chopper was landing to greet them...

They actually rolled away on their wheels and it was so much of a dead giveaway that those suitcases were likely empty....

And like everyone else I found it hella hilarious lol

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Nope, I did too - and chuckled like mad...quick, run, bags run!

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I like it so far ... its shot absolutely gorgeously and all the money they have poured in shows.

SJK is all charm and i am floored. but i am more drawn to the secondary couple story of jin goo

Right now it seems to be more of a romantic rather than a thriller/action .... its like a romance set in an unconventional setting where the 'setting' itself will be more for visuals rather than actual gritty human survival story.

And i am completely of with that :)

just a question - don't you find the styling of Song Hye-kyo dated ? Like something probably 10 years back

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Haha, yes, the attire. It's kind of plain (?). When she's on the roof (heli scence), when she went to the movie...

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I think it was done on purpose to downplay SHK's beauty & to reflect that MY's the character is not a flashy vain pot. I like her wraparound dress (or whatever u call it) a lot..

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I only thought, that a surgeon, who has to stand for many hours during his whole professional life, who depends on his feet and legs, would never ever wear high heels like they gave her.

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My sister is a surgeon and I can tell you she only ever wears heels when she's out of the hospital.

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Thanks for confirming what I think also... I would find a bit of place if doctors were bona fide fashionistas. The vanity alone needed in that lifestyle is a lot and I'd like to think most docs ain't about that life...

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I found the fashion style for Gong Hyo-Jin in It's Okay It's Love, far more realistic for a doctor. At least, I liked it a lot more. Her character did dress up, but they're twists on the practical style - peg or high-waisted trousers, blazer, sneakers.

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believe me. I see doctor wore heels and fine dress for tv show. but in daily life sometime they wear casual shirt or jeans depends where they are. same goes with every girl/women out there. I didn't follow trend but still many my student and fellow said I'm looking pretty so define beauty for me? it just one's like

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@bips99... I rather find the styling of her hair dated... She's had bangs in everything I've ever seen her in...including her movie with Cha Tae Hyun... My Girl and I...I caught it recently and found it so contrived .. I don't mind her clothes terribly... I was more surprised to see that more flashily dressed doctor-rival of hers...

SHK always has bangs...hm. She's gorgeous and really shouldn't feel that insecure without them

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I think she has bangs to look younger, especially here when paired with a baby face like SJK. I usually find people tend to look more mature when they have their hair out of their faces.

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Swooning swooning away
First SJK drama and am a fan !
his gaze felt so real

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Finally the first drama without bangs on the main actor. I am dying to see the grown up manly character in my screen.

And SJK surely never dissapoint.

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Right? I find 99% of actors way more handsome and mature looking when they have their hair out of their faces. Thank the lord SJK just got out of the military before filming started, no time to grow his hair longer lol.
But since he plays a soldier he would've needed to cut his hair short anyway I guess.

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Totally agree with you! Silly me - as much as I loved "My Love From Another Star" I didn't like Kim Soo Hyun's looks (or wooden acting) in it and I knew that 99% of my reaction was due to the straight across bangs. It took me watching Dream High to realize what an astonishing actor he is! Since then, I've noticed that I never prefer an actor with the straight down bangs. They all look more handsome with hair off their forehead - and more manly.

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Agree 100%. I personally like shorter, styled hairstyles on men. Not into the long, girly hairstyles and straight across bangs.

Did not find him as manly in Nice Guy since his hairstyle is sort of girly.

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loving it so far. SHK shined in this episode. SJK is absolutely adorable and charming. I totally swooned at the last scene. I found my crack drama.

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I watched this yesterday.
Song Joong Ki: praise the Lord! love him even more.
Love the bratty Song Hye Kyo.
The rest of the casts are adorable, however I look forward for 2nd leads. Curious. Curious.

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I like the fact that you are right when you say MY is bratty.

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I'm not sure how I feel about this drama yet.

Both the characters are pretty normal and realistic compared to other KES dramas, but I find them kind of boring. They're both basically perfect people with no foibles or weaknesses, so I wonder if there's any room left for them to grow.

It also seems like KES is trying to go for a "slice of real life" vibe, similar to the other SHK drama Worlds Within. I really enjoyed that one, but here it doesn't really work for me because KES doesn't commit to the realism, she injects too much melodrama everywhere. 

Like Si Jin being taken away by helicopter. Like the brawl with the white special forces officer (I highly doubt special forces units fight each other like that upon meeting). Like the stereotypical "rich mean girl" at the hospital. (Also, are we supposed to believe that surgeons are going to start pulling each other's hair in the workplace?) Like the hospital chairman randomly propositioning Mo Yeon. WTF?

And then there's the sappy direction and OST. They literally only met each other once or twice and there's so many sappy slo-mos of them staring at each other and love songs playing in the background. It's just way too melodramatic to be considered realistic. I don't know how I feel about it.

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Yes, the slow motion is horrible. And the fight with the special forces guy was just ugh because those guys tend to really respect each other.

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Because they are no amateur. They are like most disciplined to follow orders. Because you dont wanna send there guys who will as Joon-Ki did make some decisions on his own. Or calculate by himself.

The politician calculates. The soldiers follow orders.

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Tbh I find the scene is realistic, they both in same rank and they follow the higher order when they get confronted.
The fight is personal, the western insult shin ji and he wants to make sure that doesn't happen again
They doesn't acknowledge each other but when the other doesn't fight, it is their own quarrel. They didn't joke on the real field.

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I don't actually find it realistic. Higher level ranking officers don't just do stupid things like throw knives or fight as viciously with chairs and shovels. That could have got them court-martialled if any serious injury was caused, not to mention the diplomatic headache since both teams, I believe was contributing forces to the UN peacekeeping corps.

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maybe we heard another things since I heard there's lots of internal fight but personal meaning, especially when they train, idk about UN corp
They don't usually blasted it directly like in drama, but fight between captain often happen, they do punch each other cause they just gets warn for the 1st time. The heated situation and insult can make that happen.
the adrenaline punch+insult always worsen things, if it's no the captain then the captain will punished them for the language.
Even if the other injured, they don't really care cause they just can be replaced. People in army is not a s cool headed as people perception, they really sensitive to insult.
That's why when they throw the knife they don't really want to hurt others, it's example for saying don't joke to me, but fist fight like they did is often happen for personal reason.
I don't say it always happen, but it happen sometimes. even Peace corps in army consist of soldier and people, the one that follow order and the one that has pride. They are not robot that will never fight just because they are sent to peacekeeping force. They get sent there not choosing it.

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When Mo Yeon sent him on the roof, she stared with that kind of look as if they knew each other long enough which was actually unnecessary, plus the lyrics "I love you..." was too soon to be there... But I'll keep watching it though.

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I know! It was a first date! Seriously.

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i agree...i dont feel the chemistry at all...i just see two ridiculously good looking people.

however the second leads totally interest me...the chemistry! scorned Kim Ji Won is so fun!! she doesnt hold back her anger...i will keep watching for the second leads...

n yes the long intense gaze with the sappy music is as bad as heirs's looooooove is the mooooment!!!!!! totallly grates on my nerves!!!!

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The last paragraph. I could get into this show more if they weren't playing "I loooooove yooooooouuuuuu" when the characters just met. It's incongruous in the context.

Not that I think they should play "I maybe kinda like you" but perhaps something light. Or, here's a thought, let the actors do their job without telling us how to feel so melodramatically with musical cues. ?

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@Petra. Loooool! +1000

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I don't see the chemistry either. they're obviously two beautiful people, but I don't feel the tension that the dialogues want me to feel. and the terrible slow motion scenes and bgm music just always put me off.

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There is something happening for SJ and i dont know if it qualifies to be called love but with MY i cant really tell, so took my time to look at some of her dramas and realised that in all her character such as Full house and worlds within she could not be able to show her love just like her male partners. I dont know if its because of the characters or plainly her not being able to show the love emotion.

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This drama really doesnt make me feel attracted to it..It is boring.

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Everything you said and more.

It's formulaic and there is no real plot. They create all those grand scenes to cover this fact up.

The whole special force mission was crap. As if guys who were going to risk their lives would form a team with foreigners who barely speek coherent English. The writer needed this scene to show how masculine and ballsy Si Jin is.

And this whole transferring the doctors and nurses (against their will!) into a conflict area. Why didn't she quit her job?! She is well known and popular due to her TV show, she'd find a job in an instant. Even weirder, as she mentioned it herself in the show. She could open her own clinic after the operation. Why not before?

This is sloppy writing. The writer lacks imagination to solve this questions properly. That's why we get all those stupid questions by an 'elite' soldier, too, to answert the audiences questions.

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She has been riding on the popularity of the pretty actors for her last few projects.

Song Joong Ki why?

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<And this whole transferring the doctors and nurses (against their will!) into a conflict area.

I find that a bit mind-boggling to be honest. You can't send people into a war zone against their will. Not unless they are soldiers, or something. More so, most people would never want to go to a war zone willingly and would do everything to get out of an position like that.

The few people who do want to go (soldiers, select doctors who SPECIFICALLY sign up for Doctors without Borders or something similar, select photojournalists, etc), are specialised and volunteer to go – but even they wouldn't just immediately get to go. There'd be checks and training.

<Why didn’t she quit her job?! She is well known and popular due to her TV show, she’d find a job in an instant.

Jejejeje... so true. I was expecting that MY would go because she decided to sign up for MSF or some charity, not because her boss wants to punish her/piss her off (seriously????). That would have made a lot more sense (you'd still get the very "fated" coincidence of the OTP somehow ending up in the same place, but at least MY going would make logical sense then).

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@alua. I agree with all your sentiments. I found it all very fate-y ... And blame the writer for lack of ideas...

I think I would be liked an extension of the idea that MY doing this volunteer work could make her coveted Professorial position a lock... I would've liked to be a relentless pursuer of that end to an almost obsessive point such that viewers can tell that despite her obvious newfound fame and connections or whatever, she still considers making professor her endgame...

Plus, I got from the ep. That she was FORCIBLY transferred by the sleazy chairman and not that she VOLUNTEERED to escape him... She really had no desire to go to URK in the lead-up to the decision... She and the entire medical team she is now conveniently with..except the young expectant father doc...

I don't think I'm wrong...lol

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I would have liked an extension of the idea that MY considered doing such volunteer work a plus that would lead to her locking down her much-desired Professorial position... Sorry if that got lost in translation above...

Such forced transfers are par for the course in certain countries with that kind of superiority-has-the-final-say power. I live in a country like that... And depending how widespread company operations are...you can get transferred all over the place for the silliest of reasons considered insubordination by superiors...

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<Such forced transfers are par for the course in certain countries with that kind of superiority-has-the-final-say power.

You know, I don't doubt that. I can also buy into companies/parents/elders/superiors having excessive power over people, but as problematic and hierarchical Korea can be, I can't believe a medical institution there can force a doctor to go to a war zone (soldiers yes, but doctors, no no no).

If she'd volunteered from the start, at least one could assume it's something she thought about very carefully, maybe as a long-time ambition of hers (even better of course would be to show that e.g. with details on what kind of volunteering she did in the past exactly).

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I got the impression that while the Chairman did force her transfer, she was not entirely opposed to actually going, just his underhanded sleaziness. After all it had been emphasised that she had previously done volunteer work in Africa. Also, she had been talking with her team who were sort of enthusiastic, and while she was reserved at first about it, due to general grumpiness about not getting the promotion, I didn't get the impression she was deadset against it.

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Yeah, well, I think even KES with her love for Melodrama (with a capital M) realised that writing YM as totally opposed and shackling her to the plane wasn't going to go down well...

<After all it had been emphasised that she had previously done volunteer work in Africa

I had a feeling someone was going to say that the moment the "volunteering in Africa in the past" was brought up. Here's a newsflash: volunteering in Africa is nothing like being a doctor in a war zone. There's a lot of people (though not everyone of course) that would go do volunteer work in Africa, including in very poor conditions. There are very few people who'd go volunteer in a war zone. (I'm tempted to link some of the photo stories showing Syria from the recent World Press Photo Awards to remind people what war looks like.)

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Hey patroniser - I'm aware that volunteering in Africa isn't like necessarily like being in a war zone. I have friends who work or volunteer with the UN, journalists who go to conflict areas and have a friend mad enough to join the Australian peace corps. I've even visited the said UN friend at post. I also tend to follow political news and political analyses, rather than relying simply on newsflashes written as poorly as yours.

In the first place it's problematic that Africa is used so generically by the show or you since it comprises of multiple nation states. Secondly, there are actually UN peacekeeping corps currently in Africa - namely 9. Just because there are peacekeepers in the zone, doesn't make it the same level of Syria, which is currently designated a hotspot, no-fly zone and have active invasive military force in action.

Take Cote D'Ivoire, for example - there are UN peacekeeping corps there currently. Only part of Cote D'Ivoire is considered really dangerous and no-go but the rest is considered safe enough with volunteer programmes running, especially for healthcare. I think that's how Uruk is positioned, rather than what Syria is currently, considering the boys are hanging about digging drainage rather than be on high alert and in combat.

My point is that if someone has the mentality of being okay with going outside their comfort zone, they're a little more likely to be open minded enough to go to a UN zone. Furthermore, the show didn't tell us where in Africa she was, perhaps she's already been in one of those UN areas.

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At first, I really like the two episodes. I've missed SJK...and thennn reading the comment made me realize, OH NO! The same writer as Heirs! Dang it! Now I'm just apprehensive. And thennnn reading more comments, I begin to see more pot holes. :( I want SJK's comeback drama to be excellent!

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I find the scene as she didn't knew that beforehand and get forced to be the team that sent to the border.
She didn't want to resign since she still want to be professor, even with her capability, change job isn't that easy since it means she kicked out from her former place.
She is forced but she is not opposed to the idea cause it means she will lose to him (she has a really big pride), she doesn't want to do but if she get choose to go, she doesn't really complaint about it.
I find it that simple,

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Yeah that fight was hysterical. I think KES dramas are distinguished not only by unfortunate gender dynamics but also horribly unconvincing scenes with foreigners. Like a bunch of dramas have the bad english lines, but KES dramas have the most hackneyed and kinda trashy portrayal of Americans LOL.

Also, it's kinda small but it annoyed me when the scene right after Si Jin and Mo Yeon's break up (and he was like 'soldiers follow orders') was of him defying orders by going in first to deal with the explosives. The point of soldiers obeying orders is that it applies to just about everything - I doubt that imperative goes away just cos defying rules will make him look like a cooler hero.

Pretty sure it was a negligible moment, but it undercut the image of him more than it helped. Plus I couldn't enjoy the cuteness cos I had to roll my eyes. KES drama male he is.

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Gleeful. Haha. Apt word for that scene. Agree on the characterization.

You get the sense that he really likes being a soldier. It's beyond the mandatory military service; this is a life he has chosen.

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>Also, are we supposed to believe that surgeons are going to start pulling each other’s hair in the workplace?

IKR! I was cringing through that whole fight. How juvenile can you get?

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Every time I watch a drama by this writer I feel thrown back 10-15 years ago with all the cheesy plot devices. The directing doesn't really help here as well, sigh.
But I'm sure the ratings gonna continue to rise, ahjummas love stuff like this.

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I also find it is not working with me. The characters are kind of bland and their romance seems forced especially at their supposed ages, the love songs are too early in their relationship. Come on they hardly know each other.
They are both individually very good looking but as a couple they don't seem to match yet which is weird.

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Although I am watching this for SJK, I just discovered that his dark handsome friend next to him very attractive!

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This! I totally agree!

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In 2008 he was in a movie with Park Bo Young called The ESP Couple. He's been in other things but I have only seen this. He was adorkable in it.

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i saw ESP couple and Wolf Boy both...Man i just love Park Bo Young!!!

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I like his acting chops. He can convey a lot with a simple movement of his eyes. I always did like that stoic type. Heh.

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So is this just a romance?

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Yes dont use your brains while watching. This is how to enjoy writer-nim's story at best prepare to swoon. No thinking, no rationalizing. Don't even. See how they're saying peacekeepers battles it out so they know how to trust. Don't even think about how it doesn't make sense.

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LOOL, this comment. The funny thing is this advice protects both the drama and the viewer. I love it.

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Okay. I will take this advice. Haha.

My brain is seriously interfering with my enjoyment of this show.

Shut up, brain. Pass the popcorn.

Stop making snarky comments on alpha males, brain. Especially when they look like that.

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I wish I could take this advice. I was rolling my eyes about the soldiers battling it out, at the risk of being court-marshalled and international incidents.

But this drama touches on a few things I do pay attention to - Médecins Sans Frontières, United Nations, middle-eastern conflict (though this is actually set in the Mediterranean). Harrumph....

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Wendy, your comment is darling!

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I'm afraid so. Between a soldier who's trying really hard to be flirtious and an ackward female doctor. The background music was hilariously awful. What seem entertaining is pretty faces of all the lead characters (main and secondary). Still in limbo whether I'm going to continue watching.

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To me this is an enjoyable romance drama. I actually hope the whole I'm a doctor/you're a soldier and kill people scenario goes away. It was kind of a hokey way to bring forth a conflict, and I really don't want that to be the basis of this drama.

The music is still bad in epi 2 but not as bad as the first. I'm concerned they will not be able to fix it due to it all being in the can. It's really bad and the I Love You song at the end of episode 2 was just not right. They've been on one date and seemed to have moved on just fine. They don't love each other...can we at least wait a few more episodes before we have a love ballad.

Still, it's fun. I have my issues with this writer but so far both leads seem more well rounded than others have been.

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Just loved it. I have nothing else to say. :)

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I love it overall - and especially appreciating the military theme, since that's such a big part of my life, but what HELL was that ridiculous scene with two grown women - DOCTORS at that - having a hissy fit and a hair pulling fight???? That can't possibly be the way adult women deal with each other in real life in Korea. Somebody please tell me that's not true!! Maybe this drama is about enabling the immature Song Hye-Gyo character to grow up when faced with reality. I had a lot of expectations for this drama - sort of on the spectacular and serious level of Signal - so that scene was a big shock - but I recover nicely just looking at Song Joong ki looking at her. YUMMY love story!

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Haha...I actually thought thats normal in S. Korea..sorry if its not.

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I don't know if I can trust pre-produced shows just yet. CitT ruined them all for me.

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But CITT was partially pre-produced and was good for the first half but went to the dogs in the latter half while this one is fully pre-produced or at least fully filmed and they're just doing editing now.

And it's not as if live-shoot has saved many a drama. I think I trust pre-produced more if only because they have more buffer time to correct mistakes.

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Talking about CITT, I'm too afraid to watch its last two eps. PHJ's interview sounded like a bad omen for the unavoidable apocalypse...

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I think song joong ki went to pick up her scarf!!! he didnt just walk pass her. Haha just a guess

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song joong ki's personality in the drama doesnt seem like the kind to just walk pass her either.. haha just a guess

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I predict the same thing
He still like her

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I hope so!! I was kinda disappointed that he would have just walked by her. I didn't even think about the scarf! Can't wait for the next episode. So far I'm enjoying this a lot more than I thought I would. Yay!

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No, I think the scarf blew toward the helicopter and that's why she was walking toward it. He was walking away from it - and from her. I love this! He is going to remain aloof from her..he has more important things to do and will teach her a lesson as she gets to see his life.

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the scarf blew towards the helicopter first, when she was about to pick it up, the scarf blew away from the helicopter!

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I hope so. That was such a cliche scene; walking past without acknowledgment.

I really liked that scarf though and how it blew off. It was a pretty scene to me.

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I have to admit - when it started to blow off, I started to think of Isadora Duncan and sort of wanted to scarf to blow into the copter and get chopped like a salad spinner....

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Omg! That would be so awesome if he walks past her, gets her shawl... Gives it to her and drawls... 'Long time no see, pretty doc. What brings you into our neck of the woods?' Lol

Yup, let's OD on the Alpha male trope, teehee!

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Lmao, I'm all in. Knowing this writer I already know what I've signed up for, so my expectations are very very low when it comes to the plot... So just give me a sexy and shirtless SJK (and other hot male soldiers) every episode and I'm good to go. :D

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I think so too. His character is a playful type. I don't think he'll hold grudges with the break up. And he still likes her.

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"Mo-yeon wonders out loud to Dr. Pyo how Dr. Jang managed to get pregnant in the first place when they’re always working" 10+ season of Grey's Anatomy taught me horny doctors can do it EVERYWHERE.

What a beautiful show. I like that MY and SJ already has such a strong chemistry in the 'backstory' before the chaos instead of meeting and fell in love during the chaos. Second leads also intrigued me although we didn't see the female second lead on this ep. I'm hoping the episodes continue to be as strong or even better than the opening episodes.
But can we cut down on the cringey english lines please?

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The Grey's Anatomy thingy is so on point! Hahaha.

I know nurses, doctors and other personel working at hospitals who can attest to this!!

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It is no denying that Song Joong Ki is a delight to watch. Yes, he is easy on the eyes, but even more than that, he's very at ease in front of the camera. I've watched him in S Scandal, the first half of Nice Guy and also this rather curious little gem, Penny Pinchers, where he plays an adorable, foolish but also very fallible guy - and he's just very relaxed in front of the camera and somehow that's a pleasure to watch. In a small way, he reminds me of Leonard Di Caprio when he was younger - that sort of easy, effortless energy.

So far, the project seems to be aiming high for some kind of epic, Hollywood style of drama. High production values, lighting, and yup, that music - various moments remind me of films such as The English Patient, Atonement etc - that try to match yearning and love, against a larger backdrop of humanity's ongoing conflicts between war, life, love and meaning.

I've previously been annoyed by this writer for trying to conjure up those sort of epic moments - but in some ludicrous setting like 3 highschoolers seeing each other - triangulate triangulate triangulate, stare stare stare. It was just so overdone. I did find the editing of sequences between the rescue mission and the surgery somewhat heavy-handed in the juxtaposition of meaning, though it was slick in execution. The connection between the bomb wires linking up to the wires of the life support machine was particularly clever. So at least so far, I can find a little justification for this epic reach.

I prefer the small relational moments between the characters. The relationship between SJK and Jin Goo, the friendships in the hospital team. There are some nice little moments of humour and bonding. I'm sure that's the point, of course, as the conflict will put in jeopardy the safety of these bonds.

My biggest misgiving, as always, with any film or production that tries to take on a larger epic narrative, is whether they completely fail me in the politics. Some shows have defied that - "Band of Brothers" was amazing, "Das Boot" riveting and I hear the German "Generation War" is awesome. But I doubt that'd be possible, so I'm hoping they'll just be able to tell the love story well, without oversimplifying the characters' viewpoints. That conversation in the cafe was not a good sign, but one can hope.

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Yeah, I thought the cross-cutting of scenes was heavy-handed as well.

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Let me piggy back on your comment about SJK because I agree with everything you've said about him. The camera loves him and obviously he has an abundance of charisma. I just have to wonder why we are getting another macho man mellow drama yet again. He's so darned baby faced that even his buff post military body almost looks out of place on him. I'd love to see him do a rom com next time. Stretch himself once again, show us he can do more than just look good in his clothes, stare intently and cry on cue. We know he's capable.

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@TJ. Hahaha! I kind like that he plays against type tho...

He is so baby-faced but every time I watch him act I can't pigeonhole him as just another cutie-patootie! I get actual 'omg...that is sexy' moments from him...

I also think it s good that he doesn't want to parlay his looks into those kind of comfortable roles..."rom-com roles cos I'm cute and everyone agrees I should get the girl..." Y'know? Cos then he would get typecast as crazy!

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Actually I was thinking about how he lines up against Jang Geun Seuk. That's probably because Nice Guy seemed to have some parallels with Pretty Man, in terms of highligting the undeniable prettiness of the male character, and how he utilises that in heartlessly wooing women for his own agenda. I was curious of course, as to whether since the actors are labelled "cute or pretty", whether they somehow gravitate towards a narrative that makes them admit it blatantly but for a negative intent. I think SJK said at one point, he wanted to play a character that was unsympathetic.

Then I noticed SJK had a project called Wolf Boy. I haven't watched it but I did watch You Are My Pet - and that coincidence of characters amused me.

I guess Hong Gil Song and S Scandal places both in saeguk outfits but it's not a real parallel as the characters are vastly different. Anyway, I ramble on - SJK comes across as a lot more at ease with himself (less self-conscious about being good-looking, or maybe vain).

Going back to your comment about rom-com - you should watch Penny Pinchers then, as it is sort of an indie rom-com but a movie, not a drama.

I'm not minding him in Descendants though - some guys are more the agile, wiry types than the big muscle types. The way he fought the American solder or the small swift moves he made (knocking the phone etc, shows a natural agility that is believable. I put it down to his athletic past.

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Oh, you gotta watch him in Wolf Boy. That's where I thought he is more than just a pretty face. Hardly any lines but his performance didn't need spoken dialogue. It's not a role just anyone can pull off.

And it looks like he did a lot of his own fight scenes and stunts here, hey? No wonder the reports of breaking filming due to injury.

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It reminds me of "Pearl Harbor," the movie with Ben Affleck in that it tries so hard to be epic and sweeping. Even in places which just aren't that epic. This explains the heavy handed use of music and slo mo.

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Yes, that is a good example where it really tanked. But I know my tastes are critical, as I also hated some of the overhyped romantic bits in Titantic, and their box office intake shows most of the world loved it.

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Ooohhh....right... I totally get a Pearl Harbor feel while watching this!

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Haha, Pearl Harbor's the first thing I thought of, too.

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Am I the only one who thought it was impossible for the "thief" to be there? I am glad he's there but just the mandatory service is 2yrs (they implicated in the first episode that he didn't service yet) and even if he did already he just join the army and he is already overseas...

As for the main couple I totally love them. SHK is perfect for the role, very similar in some aspect to the one in World Within my favorite of hers. I like that she's very outspoken and direct for a kdrama female lead. As for the men... well, also perfect, I love both of them, I cannot wait to know more about the Sgt and the military surgeon (although I didn't like that much in the first episode). SJK is eye candy plus great acting I couln't ask for more in kdramaland (well, I can and I would if this became Heirs 2 but for now I'm buying what they are selling).

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Nope, I was wondering the same thing, too. How'd he get him assigned to Urk when he wasn't even in the army yet 8 months ago?

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Such a rational approach, like asking how a total newbie to the Army could end up at a special mission after such a short time, and with those two guys, too, as if the Korean army were so small, is not good for this show.
There are so many inconsistencies already, we should stop wondering about them.
Quality writing is not what one gets here.

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The howler, to me, in these episodes (well, the first episode, really) was that Kang Moyeon was manning the emergency room, but she was a surgeon, who later proceeded to do what looked like complicated surgery. I don't know hospitals work in South Korea, but in my country, surgeons work in the operating room. You stabilize patients in the emergency room, and if they need surgery, you wheel them into the operating room, where the surgeon awaits. Also, there are surgeons, and there are surgeons. No hospital is going to waste the skills of a thoracocardiovascular surgeon (which is what Kang Moyeon appears to be) by making her tend to minor wounds in the emergency department.

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I'm a medical student in my intern year so I put attention to this, too. In my country, not only working in operating room, doctors who are taking the residency in surgery take shifts in emergency room as well; but they stop doing so once they become attendings - or in other words, officially become surgeons.
After seeing episode one I thought Mo-yeon was a surgery resident, but this episode changes my whole view because there is a loooong way to go from being a resident to being promoted as a professor. So probably, yeah, putting our brain to rest is the best option here.

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I was wondering the same thing. I was like it must someone different. In 8 months?

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Yeah, in fact I thought it was someone else as it was unbelievable...

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Based on precautions given by people watching this on the writer, I plan to ignore the whole articulatiom of him being a soldier and her being a doctor. Where they have their differences etc. Which they did during the scene at the coffeeshop.

I dont wanna be annoyed as I have felt about Heirs. Im just gonna think oh this is a love story. Because writer-nim knows perfectly how to write two characters "bumping into each other as they pass by". The downhill is when characters join hands. Because there it becomes oh dear.

So im just gona think of this has SomgHyeGyo SongJoonKi in their charismatic role as a soldier and doctor who fell in love. And I'm just ready to swoon.

SongHyeGyo is just perfect. I love her acting and her character. I love how the whole medical staff went with her to Urk because their little family in the hospital is a comedic relief.

I'm so happy they brought in Kim Gi Beom the thief turned soldier. Because now I plan to calm my nerves into thinking he might be the scapegoat. Please just kill him instead of our JinGu. I dont think I can handle JinGu dying when he is having such a hard life already.

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he may died saving the "thief"... it would totally on character

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Oh, please...Don't kill him again. I've already seen him died TWICE (Falling for Innocence and Northern Limit Line).

.."he may died saving the 'thief'" - I wonder if the writer watched Northern Limit Line that's why he casted Jingoo here. Because the "sacrifice" he made there made the biggest impact on me than what the other naval officers have done.

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Ahhh! All this talk of dying...
*bites nails*

I'm hoping someone just goes MIA then they find him later.

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I'm really enjoying this drama and hoping it doesn't go downhill and I don't get too sick of the sappiness....but that being said, I think it's wonderfully (and artfully) directed.

I think we're finally getting into the plot although I really hope there is more to the story than just pining love and solitary glances into the far distance...but hey, we're talking about the same writer who made Heirs, so who am I kidding.

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you know, its true her last 4 dramas were various shades of terrible or offputting. but she did also write City Hall which was mostly wonderful and not batshit crazy. so...perhaps that version of her still lives on somewhere. and will appear in this drama. *crosses fingers* she's capable of writing non terrible scripts! i belieeeeve

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Can we applaud SHK for her crying scene? Man, I think she really improved in her acting and it wrenched my heart to see her cry like that. One of the more real cry scenes I've scene in a k-drama for sure. DOTS FIGHTING!!!

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T applaud the crying scene! My heart went out to her immediately!

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yeah I agree with you.that scene really felt her sadness of her fate.

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So much yes, it got me right there...despite myself

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Tbh, I don't really feel anything wrong with the musical scores. One, because I have damn no idea what they're saying. Because music dont get subbed. Two, because things like this when an occurrence is about to happen and some explosive emotional feeling plays. Thats exactly what kdramaland does for as long as I can remember. And I buy it.

It's like buying a good red pasta sauce. Tomato chunks always included if it is a good brand.

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The (over)use of music is pretty common to Kim Eun Sook dramas. It's annoying, but it caters to the wider audience.

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does it REALLY? like seriously asking, does the general korean public like having their ears blasted by loud heavy handed music cues? like its one thing if its at the end and during credits/previews. or in the opening but like at every emotional scene???? ...i hate it so much..

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@Tai... I'm thinking they might... Think of all the supremely popular dramas that had this feature...

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It's not just the Koreans.... why does such a proportion of the world love Celine Dion belting out in Titanic?

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> I agree with Lollypip about the intertwining scenes between the surgery and the mission, two battles in different fields. It's like watching movie, the benefit of pre-produced drama is that we can see such smooth shifts.

> Since the main leads' interest towards each other happened so fast, it's the time for the problems between the two who barely knew each other except their obvious attraction. And, it started at the coffee shop. Attracted to someone like Shi Jin is the problem itself. Before MY fell to deep, I think she chose to cut their relationship off. And telling a guy that she's not in the same belief about life as his is a serious turn-off. Sigh, sometimes, love cannot overcome everything. There are things called ego and pride.

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I agree, that scene was edited beautifully. The way one just bled into the other, it seemed like they were trying to drive home how similar their causes are just different approaches.

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Loved the direction and editing during the transitions between the OR and military scenes. Really slick.

I was also baffled by the random and pointless fight scene between the captains in the beginning, though other than that and the overused OSTs (they're great to listen to on their own but sadly used too frequently even if the scenes don't call for them) I'm on board! Main draw is still Song Joong Ki but Ep 2 made me like Mo Yeon more. Great that both female leads have spunky characters heh.

Too early to make a conclusion about the drama but from what was shown I think I'll be optimistic about future episodes as the production seems sure-handed.

PS: Nobody's talking about Lee Jong Hyuk in his cameo? As Sijin's comrade who died and appeared for a brief 3 seconds? Haha it seems like this show will likely have a cameo appearance every ep? In an article about YAI's cameo the production side revealed that more cameos by big shots can be expected.

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The second ep worked better for me, the first one was slightly more on the boring side, though something really did compel me to keep watching. It's a bit addictive to know how they will up their flirting / attraction!

I think the 'break up' make sense. It's hard enough but him not being able to explain would be a breaking point for me to. Knowing he had to go often is one thing but not knowing what he's actually doing is much worse.

The only shame i think about the whole Uruk deployment is that Mo Yeon is on the disadvantage. THey're not in a level playing game anymore. When she was in the hospital she was confident, she knew her way around and she has authority. Now she's in a foreign place where SJ has already been there for 8 months and is quite familiar. The place is full of 'dangers' so it is again a disadvantage to her.

My biggest fear is that she'll be reduced to only a damsel in distress as the show progress because she can't be that much of a badass around guns. The other second lead female has an advantage of military training at least. Mo Yeon is an 'average' city girl. So it would not be surprising if she is quite helpless out there.

But fingers cross she has time to shine and keep that personality not like *cough* Heirs *cough*.

Also, saw some comments in places about SHK acting. I admit she can be aloof but i have no issues about her lines. Not everyone has to be dramatic and animated, I think SHK is always trying not overact and thus seemed underact. I think she thinks about how to portray characters naturally, and since SHK herself is somewhat like that in real life (composed, calm) she brings that to her characters.

The second lead female *forgot her name*, everyone said is better in acting, however so far she's just got this angry / angry + teary face on her look everytime she comes up on the screen so I'm not convinced yet.

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ok i had to say smth but DO PPL REALLY THINK THAT KIM JI WON SI A STRONGER ACTRESS THAN SONG HYE KYO???? that's a joke right? i mean SHK is a veteran actress and one of the most elegant ladies in SK ent. I like her calm style. and she perfectly portrayed her anger in the scene with rude rival doctor and that creepy chairman. like....???
also i said this downthread but KJW always seems ott bratty. and while there's plenty of time for her to show a diff side in future eps. what little i aw of her so far, is in line with my current image of her acting. just very abrasive, but not in a way that works. i also wish she was older, she seems out of place against the other 3 mains, as they are all in their 30's. and she's not even 25. some actresses have a mature vibe/look to them but she aint one of em.

tbh i'm fine if mo yeon needs to be rescued on occasion cuz i mean she's going to be in a warzone and a civilian doc being rescued by a soldier is nothing that absurd. so long as she isnt going into dangerous areas for stupid reasons. plus she is a doctor so she doesnt need to be "badass" except in saving people's lives. besides war nurses/docs without borders are p badass just by virtue of being in dangerous places without military training or heavy weaponry of their own. all in the pursuit of saving lives.
she's obv not there atm for that reason, but i dont doubt she'll stay for that reason in the long run. or i hope she does, and not cuz SJK is hot. i mean...i wouldnt blame her but, less compelling reason story wise hahaha.

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Personally, I think acting is still subjective to a certain extent. Everyone has different preferences when it comes to acting and I think it all depends on how a particular scene or portrayal connects with the viewer. Some viewers are more critical and some just want to watch for fun.

We were given very little scenes with Myung Joo in the first episode and none in this episode. I don't think two episodes is enough to judge anyone's acting permanently, including Song Hye Kyo. I also want to add that experience does not equal skill in every case. Moreover, appearance definitely does not define skill.

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Good points.

I agree with you about Kin Ji won. She's the weakest link here. And I think she tends to overact while all the other actors are calm, ( this includes the main lead and supporting actors). I am waiting for her to improve.

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15+ alpa with you. well said.

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Oh no, please don't ruin her character. I love how spunky and badass MY is yet still real and unafraid to show what she really thinks and feels. Like others pointed out, she kinda reminds me of SHK's character in Worlds Within. And I'm glad people are starting to appreciate her portrayal more in this episode. Everyone was complaining about her being dull but, yup, like you said, I think that's just how SHK is in real life so that's what would come across as natural to her. I agree she comes off as reserved and distant most of the time and sometimes I'd wish she'd be more open and effusive but that's just how some people are and I accept that. She's not the best actress out there but I'd hardly call her a bad one. She's believable when the scene calls for it.

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hahaha..love love this show!
its so worth it waiting for song joong ki comeback really!!!
so excited for the next episodes,cant wait! :)

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Omona,,
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Who? So many running around.
Kidding. Think you mean Song Joong Ki?

That was a lot of beefcake in the jogging scene. "I'm a man...a cool man.."
Felt like I was watching "300" again.

Basically, this show is not afraid to use beefcake (or music) in a heavy handed way.

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Didn't one's eyes almost pop out when the troop was running shirtless? I almost felt embarrassed and pretended to look away.

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Hell no, I signed up for scenes like that, how am I supposed to endure all the cringy writing otherwise? lmao.

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people keep saying that its too late to fix the (awful) music cues cuz its pre produced but i dont see how that works? all they need to do is remove the music and redub over it, with something far more subtle, in post-production. i do hope they work on it somehow, the music cues are insufferable. thankfully not AS much in ep 2 as it was in ep 1 but yeah. needs work. I hope the knetz are us unhappy with the music cues as we are so that might motivate the team to do a bit of minor editing.

also idc how ridic it was for shi jin and random white dude soldier to fight. it was AWESOME haha. really fun well choreographed fight scenes in both eps so far. i could keep watching for that and beautiful joongki alone tbh.
As much as I like Jin Gu I am not too excited about his romance atm. Kim Ji Won is...no disrespect but she's just not a strong actress imo. admittedly i've only seen her in two dramas and they were both awful. but she has an image in my head of this bratty rich girl. and unfortunately what little we saw of her in Ep 1 didnt alter that image at all. Idk if its how she acts or what. It doesnt help that she looks and sounds as young as she is (23) whereas Jin Gu is in his mid 30's now. its very awkward tbh. Here's hoping they can change my mind tho. Maybe KJW will surprise me afterall or they'll turn out to have mad chemistry. We'll see.

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I totally agree with you about the second female lead... in the only scene together he was so much stronger than her (and he barely talk), I got also the impression of General's princess/daughter/bratty vibe too. So I want more of him but I would prefer with another female character. Also, I would prefer more equal ground for him (she's already "superior" in so many levels and I think he sees himself lower than he really is, maybe because his past).

With the main couple both are equals, when the second couple she is already in superior in command so... not really liking it. Maybe with another actress with more maturity and screen presence it would be OK for me.

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I love KJW in Gapdong. But not in her other dramas.

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Somehow the war story, the medical thing seems doesn't work with me. The romance is just meh. All those stare and longing looks just don't work with me.

Nope, I'm not going to continue watching. So I'm outta here.

ps.
What's with KBS and the random Subway PPL in the drama? Can they make the PPL less obvious? Duh~

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lol on Subway. Hubs and I were smirking going, "gee, do you think that's product placement?"

"All of a sudden, I want to buy my coworkers subway platters. See? They all look so happy..."

Who needs commercials when you can fit a cheesy commercial right into the show.

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Let's not forget the brand of shampoo and bathing productions. What woman has an entire range from one brand, instead of various bits and pieces?

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I've been thinking of starting a drinking game while watching a KES drama whenever a scene of obvious PPL, bad bgm or illogical plot appears but realized that I'd probably be already wasted after 20min. XD

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A shot of soju every time!

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I really love the inner struggle in SJ and MY's relationship and I look forward to seeing how they get passed those differences. I too for see a lot of angst in the future for these too. Of course the second couple has also peaked my interest. I wonder if he is staying away because of her dad, the look they exchanged in EP 2 said as much.
Here for SHG and SJK and their doing great.

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i think some people are complaining a bit too much just because of the writer's track record. I think we forget that there is another writer on board and hopefully /fingers crossed/ they will be able to help the show.
as for the score, i have to agree, it's annoying and jarring in the scenes where we're supposed to be completely invested in and attentive but i did see some slight improvement in the 2nd episode. here's to hoping the future episodes wont be as heavy handed with the music.
i had my own reservations about the show but im really enjoying it till now, that is till ep 2. i do hope there's no more literal hair pulling catfights tought.
also this might be considered a
/SPOILER/
but who else thinks onew's pregnant girlfriend is definitely going to die based on the teaser of him crying over someone.
idk that was the first thing that came to my head and i was just echoing OH NO again and again.

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why she would die? complications in giving birth? mmm... she's in Seoul, definitely it will be a twist if he is in war zone and she is in Seoul and SHE dies.

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Oh my mistake i thought she went with them. I mixed up the nurse and his fiance

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is this drama any good? I don't like kes drama and military things in a movie or drama (except inglorious basterds). I'm curious now because it has became trending topic in any drama forum.

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I think this 2 ep is good and solid, easy to watch and to understand

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Holy! I am loving this drama right now.
MORE MORE MORE.

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It's unbelievable but I actually really like Song Hye-gyo in this drama, I think she's doing a good job and I really like her character.
Side note, can they please stop taking off their shirts so much? It's annoying.

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Annoying? Lol

I beg to disagree. Far from it. I can watch them with their shirts off, all day long! Lol

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lol! At both your statements.
I note further up that it's a heavy-handed use of beefcake.
(But I feel like I shouldn't complain.)

Seriously though, just two episodes and we have already had sweaty shirtless workout, not one but TWO extremely fine men showering scene, male lead contemplating in shower scene, an entire squad of buff young men jogging with shirts off....

Boggles the mind what will come next ?...

Maybe some thoughtful posing while thinking with shirt off..
Female lead walking in on male lead while he is changing...

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LOL... I'm actually embarrassed...

There's just too much testosterone...

Actually, it reminds me of when I was younger, I knew some guys who were very athletic and as alpha males, they sure do like to show off. So even without peeling off, ostentatious displays of push-ups and breakdance moves etc - I just cringe and want to die.

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Hahaha. Well, I'm putting in the context of a South Korean audience and they are not as blasé about naked male torsos as American audiences and some parts of the rest of the world. I guess things are changing.

I remember when I went out there for my wedding and my stepmother and the stylist walked in on hubs with his shirt off and it was "gasp! Oh, sorry! Sorry! I'm so sorry!" And they turned pitched red and walked back out.

I'm like, "Huh? What? It's not like he had his pants off?"

And Dad's secretary told me later that as a Korean-American I wasn't getting it.

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Ahahaha...that's hilarious...

I'm a worldwide cultural mongrel and one of my "strains" is the surge of Britishness awkwardness for anything inappropriate or obtrusive in public. But I'll just pretend to read while sneaking peeks.

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@Adal...ikr! Count me in! In what universe is naked male torsos a bad thing? Wow! It's just 'looking' lol. No harm done... Hehe. Each time and came on, I thought, "Yaass, I love this show!"

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Yup, same here, chingu!

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I'm enjoying her too! I signed on for SJK - I've seen a bunch of him and he's been one of my favorites for a long time, so there was no surprise that he delivers all the charm necessary and more. I was way more reluctant about SHK/SHG tbh; I only saw her in some of That Winter, The Wind Blows or whatever, and was bored to tears.

This show has at least some vitality if not all the brains, and she's already so much more enjoyable.

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Darn!! SJK, I never felt like owning you before, but now I want youuu.. Soo much for myself??

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In the last minute of the ep, I was seriously staring at my screen on that epic getting-out-from-the plane-and-walk-like-you-own-the-place scene. They kinda look like boyband in disguise, kekekeke.
And, the way they shot SHK with her veil and the wind...

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One thing is sure, the cinematography is on !!! Lol "boyband in disguise" yeah it's true and so good to watch muahahaha !

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Being an old person, I got serious "Top Gun" vibes from that scene.

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me too :D

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Lol...me three :D

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Oh yeah!
Ok I betray my age
Hahaha

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Hahaha. Boyband in disguise...rofl!

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I feel like people are so negative and think too much just because the other drama by the writers. I mean this is a dif drama, diff actor, diff setting, . If you escape your prejudice, this is really enjoyable drama. The characters are all interesting and well acted. The story maybe hasn't developed but we knew who they are and how they live in their life.
The dialog is on point, it feels like they give us the info we need without much confusion.
This drama is normal, fun, easy to watch, yeah the visual game is too strong but that can't disregard on how well the drama presented itself.
I appreciate the calmness in the drama,, the OST are really good, and it used better in this episode.
I think the drama is gonna be about them, the character.
Not something out of ordinary accident, illness, power struggle, mystery or weird thing.
It's about the encounter and their choices.

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Yeah, it's true. Bad past experiences have us wary.

It's how I imagine I'll react next time Cheese in Trap PD makes a show...unfortunately.

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I loved the surgery intertwined with the mission scene. Both fighting against death but in different ways. Idk why but I just loved it!

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Episode 2 :
- music director please go on vacation, you worked too much ! but it was slightly better than in ep 1
- liked this episode and the presentation of the characters goes on : favorite scenes are not the romantical ones (if we can say that, they hardly know each other) , but all the little scenes of slice of life and humor displayed : I laughed so hard when the 2 guys freaked out when the girl pointed the gun at them, so perfectly trained soldiers killed by stupid woman in a bar : how ridiculous would that have been !!!
So DOTS let's continue the journey together, I will enjoy the cinematography ^^ , and leave my brain out of the room if necessary

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Actually, I liked that the two soldiers cowered when the stupid woman stupidly pointed the gun at them. People who know their way around guns respect what a gun can do, and don't play around with one.

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Yes, and especially when she looks like she doesn't even know how to handle it. So many gun deaths are due to accidents...

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+1
I like the way they duck,put their hands up and said "eiiiish"
That's the way one should react - esp those who know what guns can do- which as elite soldiers they should.

You won't count on KES to have realistic details since her story always have a storyboard but skips all logic - so this is a +1 for her too

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Thanks LollyPip!

I was wondering if the show was trying to have something of the King2Hearts' tone and feel... where there's serious military stuff going on, but at the same time goofy and childish behavior that lightens the story and adds laughs. While it worked well in K2H, I'm finding the interspersing of rather facile behavior in what was (I thought) a more serious kind of show, somewhat jarring.

I find that the show has not quite settled on it's tone yet. It's trying to be serious, dramatic, romantic and funny ... which normally can all flow together well, but so far not yet for me.

What I felt we could have done without...
The heavy-handed, contrived bits like ... the long, long looks between the OTP, not just once. (Others have mentioned the music so there's that too)

... so much alternating of the battle in surgery and in the field. A couple of scenes would have sufficed.

... cat fight of doctors ...

... unconscionable blackmail of Hospital boss. She did not need to be driven out of the hospital, she might have volunteered again since she did not get the Professorship.

New and sudden: Korean-speaking girl getting loaded gun openly right next to our soldiers and which she just has to point at them. I find that contrived too, but at least the episode is introducing us to another side character and the side-plots in Urk?

Same old: Yet another Kdrama scene in the operating theatre where surgeons appear unprofessional, incompetent, even irresponsible and another hospital where politics and in-fighting is accepted.

What I found seriously funny: Mo Yeon smiling goofily at Si Jin's X-ray.
What I liked: Chairman hits on Mo Yeon and she hits him back literally. :)

I trust that the show will find its feet very soon.

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Hello GB Unni,

I will be back later to comment more, however I thought I would write a few of my questions, and some of my thoughts. My questions:

1--Why did SJ say, "I thought about you a lot, LIKE A MAN?" Do men have a special way of thinking about women, or was there a sexual innuendo there? He didn't just say, "Yes, I thought about you a lot," he added "like a man." I was curious about that.

2--Why did MY ask her hoobae to clench his teeth (or jaws)? Was it because she was planning on hitting him? I didn't get that... Also, is he from a wealthy family? I got that impression.

I might have some other questions, but I can't remember them right now, so I will ask them later. Oh I remember now: this made think about Healer: in the rescue mission scenes, at one point, I think SJ shoots something, and that anchor thingy went up in the air, and over a wall. What was that? Did you understand how that happened? I think that was how he was able to get into one of the rooms (or get further into the building). That happened so quickly, but I wanted to understand that scene.

I am experiencing this drama differently than you are, and so I don't share many of your complaints, and views on the two episodes we have watched so far. I really love the OST, including the instrumental songs. I love the one when SJ and the Western soldier fight, the one when MY is doing surgery-rescue mission, and the one played during the Chairman's presentation, when he announces that he is sending a volunteering team to Urk.

Also, did anybody paid attention/noticed the guy who was briefing them for the rescue mission? It is a little after 2mns into the ep. (2). He is sooo handsome/hot, and I love his accent when he talks. I was hoping we would see more of him in the ep., but sadly no. I wonder if he will be back in the drama. This is when I wonder how they cast the international cameos. Does anyone know if the fight test and the mission rescue scenes were shot in Korea, or in Greece?

Because if it was shot in Korea, then I am assuming that they looked for those cameos in Korea (do they put out a casting call?) For the scenes in Greece though (like the children we saw for example), I am curious about how they go about that. I think it would not be hard for them to find adult cameos, but the children, someone had to talk to their parents, right? How do they find them? Just by walking in the streets? This is how invested I can get into the drama, I start wondering how things are done BTS...

I LOVED, LOVED, LOVED the fight scene. The choreography was very well done, no awkwardness, and the punches were given fast. I LOVED how SJK and that White actor/cameo worked together to bring on camera a fight that looked very believable. And I agree with LollyPip, it showed SJ's agility and quick thinking when faced with an opponent bigger (in size) than him. I will be back later with more comments.

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I'm not sure if you meant those questions just for GB but I'm waiting for something to download, so just jumping in.

1 - not sure, I wondered about that too. If it was meant to be flirtatious, it would have been a little creepy since the stereotype joke is that men think of sex every seven seconds. Or unintentionally hilarious, since he may have meant to be defensive - i.e., no no he wasn't being sweet and sentimental like a woman, but thinking manly nice thoughts. Who knows?

2) It was because she was joking that she was going to hit him (I don't think she really meant to hit him.) This is because if you get hit in the jaw, clenching your jaw is meant to lessen the likelihood you a) bite your tongue b) break your teeth or c) damage your jaw articulation (how you move the hinges of your jaw for eating, speaking etc)

3) The thing they shot upwards is a grappling hook gun. The gun shoots the hook up and its spikes open up and hooks on a wall or ledge to provide enough leverage so they can climb up the rope.

Don't remember the briefing guy, don't know if those scenes you mentioned were shot in Korea or Greece.

Casting children in Greece should be like casting children in any country bound by laws and have a high number of foreign productions. But it also depends on whether you're casting for quick cameos or whether the child is featured (close ups etc).

Normally, you don't just rock up to kids on the street and say, hey, want to be in the movie, unless you're shooting a super low-budget movie on your handheld camera in some rural area. And even then, you risk getting into trouble. At the very least, you would have to talk to parents or guardians. And anyway, when you have the cameras all ready, the kids might not just turn up when you want.

So with a production like this, I'd imagine they'd have to go through the proper channels to make a call out, or easier, utilise a casting agent or fixer in Greece who will contact either a kids drama school or association, or even a local school. This is especially since they are doing things like standing near barbed wire, so they'd need to have proper health and safety assessments. It's funny, in one of my old jobs, we shot in India and the easiest way was to contact a local school for kids interested in drama and then the school can give blanket permission once they contact the parents, rather than us having to chase down every single parent.

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Hello Dramapanda,

And thank you so much for answering my questions. No, my questions were not exclusively for GB unni. We know each other, and we have commented on each other's posts in the past. I just happened to comment under her post, so I addressed her directly, that is all. I welcome anyone's responses/comments to my questions and comments, so thank you again. Your responses were detailed, the way I like them, and the way I do it myself.

I have much more to comment on, and much more to write about. So I hope that you will continue to read this page, over the next few days. You might be able to comment more under my posts, or have more insights for me :-) I am in the middle of dinner, helping my roommate with a party/get-together he is having. I will be back later to write more.

Oh, and debriefing guy is DEFINITELY in there, between 2 and 3mns into the ep. (I checked, before I wrote my comment the 1st time). I find him very handsome, and I was wondering where he might be from (He looked Middle Eastern, but I could be wrong). I guess I won't be able to find him online, if he doesn't cameo again. I am usually curious about cameos in dramas or movies, especially when they are foreigners. I very often wonder how they found out about the drama being made. As I mentioned, I also liked his voice. It was interesting, in the scene, he says" next one, please," referring to the next slide he needed to comment on. And Viki (the streaming site) wrote "next page." I guess they didn't pay attention to what he had said.

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Hi Ivoire

As @ Dramapanda has given you the answers better than I can, I'll leave those and say first that I looked through the first 6 minutes of the episode to 'locate' your handsome man. OK, now I know what kind of look you like LOL! Was that also him at 5:37 minutes ie the one who broke up the fight? Looked like him but with the helmet on and using a higher pitch tone as he was shouting at them.

Yeah pity it was a short cameo and hard to find the names of all these extras. He pronounced Northeast/Southeast a little differently than an English speaker would, you think? Not sure if he was Middle-eastern though.

Yes, I like the fighting scenes. They are convincing. I've been watching the fights in Neighborhood Hero as well. Not bad there too! Moorim School was so cute (cheesy) and fun in their competition fight scenes.

Rescue with a grappling hook in Healer??? I am trying to recall that but I cannot. I only recall that he got around without even a rope (parkour) and ran and jumped and climbed up from ledge to over walls and into windows... The time he had to use a rope of some kind, he used the water hose to rappel down the lift shaft. Please let me know which rescue you are referring to.

And unfortunately, I have no clue how international cast members are brought on board. If there's ever a special tour of S Korea that includes the studios and how shows are made, we'll be the first to sign up!!! :D I think now there are tours including filming sites only???

BTW what did you mean by this? "And Viki (the streaming site) wrote “next page.” I guess they didn’t pay attention to what he had said." Who did not pay attention to whom saying what?

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@ Ivoire
About your question 1) above... I was just re-watching and as she did not react in anyway to his saying that he'd been thinking of her like a man... I took it to mean, "Of course I was thinking of you, it's only natural" ie to do with attraction for a member of the opposite gender and to say "well, which man wouldn't think of you". That sort of thing. So likely quite an innocent qualifier.

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Hi GB unni,
I just wanted to let you know that my computer is not working (need to buy a new one), and i am moving again today. So, I have not been able to be here :-(

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That White actor/cameo in fight scene: I read he is JYP trainee Jun So-mi's real dad. His name is Mattew Dowooma? and works in the area related to photography. It said once in a while, he shows in a drama if there is a character he wants to play, and he might show up 1-2 times again.

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So I assume "Iiii loooooveeee youuuuu" is going to be "Love Is The Moooomeeennnt" in here? Lord have mercy. -.-

And when I was looking at the list of cast on Asianwiki and saw Tae In Ho (the hospital CEO) on it I knew right away he's gonna play the side character everyone's gonna hate. Lol, poor guy always casted for the same kind of roles (at least wherever I saw him in) like in Misaeng being Byun Yo Han's slimey superior, in IRY the killer chaebol and here again playing a rich douche bag. XD

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Yes, it's a pity that... I guess he just has the right look to play 'slimeballs' LOL! poor actor!

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I so love Descended from the Sun! SJK is love and SHK is perfect as Mo-Yeon!

…”But for me, I prefer love stories in which the conflict keeping the lovebirds apart is internal rather than external — I’d much rather see a couple struggle against their belief systems, and try to find a way to love each other in spite of conflicting moral values, than the most evil mother-in-law you could imagine.”…
----Why its “cheese…?”… that I actually think of about this statement… Just saying. (smile….grim…)

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It would be "cheese...." if cheese didn't appear to be bringing in all those cliche external pressures in the next few eps...smile, VERY grim.

Incoming, evil father in law...

Really hope there is no potential evil father/mother in law in this one.

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i bet in the last scene he passed her by just to pick up her shawl.....totally enamored by this drama rewatched the fist two episode twice already and the ost is my ring tone. ive fallen hard

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Oh yes!! That's so in line with his character.
Stupid me was still thinking why did he walk by her
I mean, yeah they had that "talk" but honestly they hardly got together enough to be a couple so it should still be friendly

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I am curious though about the age difference they refer to. Beforehand i think they make them as the same age friends. so, when Mo Yeon basically says that she is the older one, is it true?
or.. anyone knows here the description of their character that show us their age?

and by the way, I like the second ep so much.. I hope it won't end up like cheese in the trap. Hmm.. pleaseee

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Lol. We all sound so burned by Cheese in the Trap. I was just thinking that I've got to get that out of my brain...

I think we assume she is older because of her position as surgeon and how much schooling that takes. Of course he is higher up in rank too.

I would think she's about 5 years older? Can't be more than 10.

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I am so saddened by the CITT experience... Truly I watched it till ep.6 and I dropped it a bit with full intentions of going back to it... I still will ...but I'm not happy it has got this pall over it now...:(

I'm just curious about one thing tho... Why did they make it into a show when the webtoon itself isn't over?
Have there been other webtoon-to-drama adaptation s that were done before the webtoon's conclusion? Were they successes?

Sorry if it looks like I'm hijacking the thread a bit... Apologies really... I never posted on the intense CITT threads cos I really felt like my questions would make me look too much like an ignoramus... And I don't particularly like looking too bad, lol... In any setting

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Wouldn't surprise me if their age in here is supposed to be the same as their real age, i.e. early to mid 30s and her being older by around 4 years.

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