Yong-pal: Episode 17
by HeadsNo2
It’s Yong-pal’s penultimate episode, and can be safely considered an exercise in patience as we get an hour full of misinformation, deception, and a staggering lack of inaction from those characters we maybe haven’t come to necessarily depend on, but who should be bringing more to the table this late in the meal. Yeo-jin finds herself to be a crocodile without teeth, Chae-young spins a complicated(?) revenge web for her to get caught up in, and Tae-hyun’s spirit animal continues to be a slightly disinterested koala. Gird your loins, say your prayers, and expect the unexpected—but remember to rein in those expectations a little bit. Then a little more. A little more. There, now you’re ready.
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EPISODE 17 RECAP
Six months have passed according to Tae-hyun, who tells us in voiceover that he’s opened a small private clinic in a rural town, free from catering to the privileged class or making house calls for gangsters. He’s content.
His home may be humble, but it’s never empty—So-hyun seems fully recovered from her surgery and is now living with her brother, as is his former bodyguard. He and So-hyun seem to have something going on, too.
Comparatively, Yeo-jin enjoys a cold meal with equally cold business people before Chairman Choi crashes their non-party to ask her for mercy. Her tactics have put Daejung’s finances in a sore spot, and while Chairman Choi acknowledges that he lost the war against them and surrendered, Yeo-jin has no kindness to spare for him.
While being dragged away, Chairman Choi leaves her with some ominous parting words: since his son was killed by her brother and he killed her brother in turn, now that Yeo-jin has killed him, who will kill her? Well, out of the five remaining cast members…
Since Doo-chul’s funds were used to establish Tae-hyun’s clinic, the gangster-turned-shareholder takes it upon himself to sit there and give Tae-hyun doctoring advice while he treats a miniature patient.
Then it’s his turn, but Tae-hyun isn’t as gentle with his old buddy as he advises him to stop drinking so heavily, since that would alleviate most of his problems. Now that Tae-hyun’s considered a community leader in his small town, the nun from the church he and Yeo-jin stayed at helps to keep him on task when it comes to inoculating the local children.
Chae-young visits frequently, and Tae-hyun finds her helping to bathe the children with a huge smile on her face. She seems much more laid back now, with Tae-hyun noting that she wouldn’t have even dreamed of manual labor before. Since he still calls her “madam,” Chae-young tells him to stop with the formalities. He can just call her noona from now on.
She asks if he misses being the chairwoman’s husband, to which Tae-hyun unhesitatingly replies that he doesn’t. “I miss it,” she says on a sigh. She feels responsible for what happened to Do-joon, and refuses to let Tae-hyun blame himself either.
But when she asks if he’s spoken to Yeo-jin lately, he becomes uncomfortable and changes the subject. He has to leave her to attend to the children, and Chae-young’s smile fades as she thinks, “My revenge began a long time ago.” You mean six months ago?
Meanwhile, Secretary Min informs Yeo-jin that Chairman Choi attempted to commit suicide, but was found before he expired by his chief secretary. Yeo-jin misses Min’s almost triumphant smile as she leaves him at the threshold of her home, stumbling only when she’s out of sight, reeling from the news.
Looking up at the portrait of her father in tears, Yeo-jin asks, “How did you get through it, Father?” But then she looks up to the stairwell and sees a vision of Do-joon there, causing her to fall over in a dead faint.
When she wakes, the first thing she asks the head maid is if she fainted again, which means this isn’t an isolated occurrence. Her main concern is that rumors of her fainting spells don’t leak out, so much so that she refuses to even see a doctor about her condition.
The head maid, however, feels like it’s normal for her to be in shock after finding out that someone tried to commit suicide because of her. I’d be inclined to agree that’s so for normal people, but not for someone who already has two dead bodies to their name. Just saying.
Yeo-jin takes some time to reflect on Tae-hyun’s offer for her to leave everything and come to him, since he’d be waiting for her no matter what.
Tae-hyun’s world certainly looks like it’s much more fun, as he shares drinks with Nurse Oh, Nurse Ahjumma, Doo-chul, and his ever faithful and perpetually unnamed lackey. “I’ve never been so happy,” Tae-hyun muses aloud.
“I’m happy when So-hyun is mean to me, I’m happy when I don’t get paid for a consultation. I’m even happy when [Doo-chul] brings me gangsters,” he continues. It’s only when he mentions the happiness the breeze brings to him that he thinks of Yeo-jin, who said the same thing on the hospital rooftop.
In silence and to himself, Tae-hyun thinks, “Yeo-jin, you should come find me soon.” As if she heard his thoughts (despite the fact that she can see him from her car), Yeo-jin thinks, “Tae-hyun-ah, I want to join you.” She almost does, but is stopped in her tracks when she sees Chae-young join Tae-hyun’s party.
While Tae-hyun remains unaware that Yeo-jin was even near, Chae-young’s bright smile fades as she watches Yeo-jin’s car drive away. As for Yeo-jin, she looks heartbroken as she thinks to herself, “I’m glad you’re happy.”
Yeo-jin makes a speech to commemorate the opening of a new Hanshin factory, but while at the podium, she sees the smiling face of President Go amongst the crowd. She tries hard to recover, but finds the task impossible when her brother also pops up at her side asking her what’s wrong.
She promptly faints in front of all the assembled press, while Secretary Min looks on impassively. Tae-hyun sees the event unfold on the news with his former bodyguard, who gets up knowing that Tae-hyun is going to see her.
Tests are performed on an unconscious Yeo-jin, who wakes with a start when a nurse attempts to put an IV in her arm. She adamantly refuses, having been justly traumatized by IVs before, only for the doctor to tell her that it’s nothing serious—she’s got slight anemia, and is mostly suffering from fatigue and stress.
While it’s shocking to hear a diagnosis this late in a show’s run that’s not some sort of life-threatening illness, Yeo-jin dismisses Secretary Min to ask the doctor if stress can also cause hallucinations, specifically hallucinations of dead people. Her doctor says yes, but when he recommends hospitalization, Yeo-jin scoffs that she’d rather die than be hospitalized at Hanshin.
But as it turns out about the diagnosis: psych! The truth is being kept from Yeo-jin, while her shareholders learn and laugh about her stage two liver cancer. On top of that, she’s even hallucinating! Ho ho ho.
They congratulate Chae-young on a job well done (doing what?) and offer her more shares for her part. She’s less interested in those than she is in getting revenge for Do-joon.
Tae-hyun greets Yeo-jin in the lobby as she walks out with her entourage, but at first, Yeo-jin wonders if he’s just another hallucination. They make awkward and stilted small talk for a moment before Tae-hyun asks if she’s sure she’s not sick, but before she can answer, all the shareholders who’d delighted in her diagnosis grovel at her feet like they’re all just so worried.
Before Tae-hyun leaves, Yeo-jin calls out his name. He turns, and she congratulates him on his clinic. It’s clear they both have more to say, but neither of them are ready to say it. Way to be useful as always, Tae-hyun.
Tae-hyun next pays a visit to Chief Lee, who’s unbelievably still employed as a surgeon (Hanshin Hospital: Where you go to end it all), to ask him about Yeo-jin’s checkup.
Meanwhile, one of Yeo-jin’s maids drugs her drink on Chae-young’s orders, because that’s how you get cancer these days. Or just hallucinations. Either way, Yeo-jin drinks it, hallucinates immediately, and never suspects with her keen crocodile mind that something might be in the water.
At least Tae-hyun’s suspicious, considering that Chief Lee couldn’t get access to Yeo-jin’s medical scans even with his clearance level. But again, he’s not doing a whole lot about it, while Yeo-jin refuses her head maid’s offer to call in Tae-hyun—a doctor they can actually trust—to see her.
“Look at me. I’m a monster,” Yeo-jin grits out. “I don’t want to hurt him anymore.” The head maid tries to convince her that he’d never see her that way, and ends up being the only one who knows where Yeo-jin’s going when she leaves the house, since Chae-young’s spy isn’t told anything.
Despite that, Chae-young is still able to track Yeo-jin down outside Tae-hyun’s clinic, having known that’s where she would go. Their conversation is awkward, even more so when Chae-young lets slip that she and Director Kim (aka Tae-hyun) have a noona/dongsaeng relationship now.
“Tae-hyun is happy,” Chae-young tells her. “He says that he’s never been happy like this before, so I hope you leave him alone. Let him be happy.” Yeo-jin nods, before admitting shakily that she’s been seeing Do-joon. Chae-young breaks down into tears and does the “I see him in every flower, in the smile on every child’s face” routine, all to make Yeo-jin feel guilty.
And it works, since Yeo-jin also breaks down, though more because Chae-young finds subtle ways to bring up how good a person Tae-hyun is in order to make Yeo-jin feel bad enough to keep her distance from him. That way, she won’t find out she has cancer till it’s too late, or something.
“Tae-hyun-ah, wait just a little longer for me,” Yeo-jin thinks in the direction of his clinic. “I will come down from the thirteenth floor soon.” But she almost runs him over with her car while hallucinating, and faints behind the wheel the second Tae-hyun worriedly recognizes her.
She wakes in his home and smiles when she sees him. He takes her up to the rooftop, where she comments on how fitting “First Floor Clinic” is as his clinic’s name. When he asks if she’s well, she replies that she’s suffering from stress—an illness she sees as almost karmic—but when he asks if she’s having a hard time, she goes silent.
In her mind however, she thinks the words she wants so desperately to say: “Yes, I am having a hard time.” Tae-hyun wants her to get a full checkup, though she says she already got checked out. Never does it cross her mind that she once wanted to be diagnosed at any hospital but Hanshin—apparently their diagnoses are now foolproof to her. Because script.
She also adds that it’s a disease of the mind, causing Tae-hyun to gather her in his arms and gently say: “Whether it’s a disease of the mind or body, I’ll treat it for you. Don’t worry.” That’s reassuring from the doctor who has to make phone calls to more experienced doctors in order to diagnose people.
Yeo-jin nestles into his arms and tells him she’ll be coming down from the thirteenth floor soon enough, which catches Tae-hyun by happy surprise. “I’ve already made up my mind,” she adds. “If I come back, will you take me?”
By way of answer, Tae-hyun pulls her closer and kisses her forehead. “You’re already back.” He calls her an idiot for good measure, and they both lean in for a slow kiss. She pulls away with tears streaking her face before he pulls her in for another, longer kiss.
Secretary Min has come to collect Yeo-jin, and while Tae-hyun would rather send him away, Yeo-jin plans to go with him so she can get some of her things and sort out her baggage—the emotional kind, which he can’t help her with.
His eyes glisten as he tells her not to go, his attempts at making more logical plans falling on deaf ears. But Yeo-jin tells him not to worry, reminding him that she never changes her mind once she’s made it up.
Tae-hyun tries again to stop her from leaving, this time wrapping his arms around her from behind. She relishes in the embrace a moment before turning back to him with a soft and reassuring smile. “I’ll be back soon,” said no character who ever comes back soon.
She sets of Secretary Min’s warning bells when she tells him to assemble an emergency board meeting for tomorrow morning while refusing to tell him why. Her maid seems to catch onto his interest in the water Yeo-jin’s drinking, considering his maniacal smirking habit.
The head maid doesn’t mention it to Yeo-jin, who reminisces about her long tenure in the house. A bit humorously, Yeo-jin remembers that the maid always liked Do-joon better, which she awkwardly covers for by saying that Yeo-jin had confidence and needed nothing, while Do-joon was always in need of sympathy.
Despite her many years of service, the head maid reports Yeo-jin’s actions to Secretary Min and his cronies. They tell her Yeo-jin has cancer like they’re commenting on the wall color, and her reaction reflects that. However, since Yeo-jin is now dying, they need the head maid’s help to ensure that Yeo-jin stays away from Tae-hyun until they can revise her will so that he’s no longer her heir.
The head maid agrees to their schemes, though whether she’s got a plan of her own is up for grabs (or it’s just my fervent hope that there’s more going on). Apparently they have the power to issue a restraining order against Tae-hyun without Yeo-jin knowing or interfering, which, whatever.
Secretary Min goes to the War Room to disband everyone on Yeo-jin’s behalf, utterly baffling her staff. As for the legitimate questions they ask about the work she’d assigned them, Secretary Min gives illegitimate and roundabout answers that do nothing but leave everyone confused. At least the quiet staff member finds it strange that he’s suddenly been locked out of the Hanshin system.
Yeo-jin wakes up that morning to find Do-joon sitting at the foot of her bed, asking her if she slept well. She screams.
COMMENTS
Huh? What? Okay, let me see if I’ve got this right: In order to take revenge on Yeo-jin for Do-joon’s murder, Chae-young has been drugging Yeo-jin’s drink. Either her one and only goal was to induce hallucinations to weaken Yeo-jin, in which case, mission accomplished—or, if the initial scene with her and the board members was any indication (and I desperately hope it wasn’t), then they were congratulating Chae-young for Yeo-jin’s cancer diagnosis and, to a lesser extent, her hallucinations.
I honestly feel silly for even writing that down, but I’m actually baffled by this cancer revelation in a way that cancer revelations don’t normally baffle me. We don’t know what Chae-young’s revenge actually entails, and as unbelievable as the idea of inducing cancer actually is, the way everyone handled that would-be bombshell was beyond bizarre. The board members were as excited as schoolboys over the diagnosis and quick to commend Chae-young for her efforts, so if I’m the one hallucinating, then it’d still mean that Chae-young’s revenge was just to induce hallucinations, and that Yeo-jin just happened to contract a very convenient case of Finale Week Cancer.
So if I’m not as crazy as this show is, then Chae-young somehow managed to induce full blown cancer in Yeo-jin in a span of six months, which I simply refuse to believe is a real thing. That can’t at all have been the intention of those scenes, however vague they left things, even if sussing out the order of events leaves me with more of a headache than anything. For instance, let’s say the doctor examined Yeo-jin, discovered her cancer, but took it straight to Chae-young first—Chae-young would’ve had to make the conscious decision that not telling Yeo-jin and allowing her to go untreated would eventually lead to her death and the culmination of her revenge, even if that would make the whole drugging subplot kind of moot.
Or, her plan revolved around just drugging Yeo-jin, and the fact that she’s now dying from a random and unforeseen cancer ultimately means little to Chae-young because something. I’m going to be completely transparent here and admit that I have absolutely no idea what’s going on, or even what’s supposed to be going on now that Yeo-jin has Cancer. Because it couldn’t have been anything even remotely related to her three-year coma, but instead had to be sudden and advanced Cancer. Why, Yong-pal? Why?
After episodes spent building Yeo-jin up as this tough, cunning, and ultimately ruthless businesswoman, it’s more than a little confusing to see all that competence fail her when it matters most. The current (as of last episode) iteration of Yeo-jin this show tried desperately to sell to us wouldn’t be so unsuspecting when it came to those around her, especially with the track record people like Secretary Min have. That iteration of Yeo-jin wouldn’t have bought a single word coming out of a Hanshin doctor’s mouth, and yet we now have a fragile and mentally unraveling version of Yeo-jin going into the finale, one that believes she’s just fainting from stress despite what should be a very vivid and recent trauma of being drugged by her enemies.
Only now she’s in a waking coma, with about as much agency as she had when she was locked away. With her death potentially looming, and with Tae-hyun just continuing to be a scoop of vanilla ice cream, I have no idea what the finale has in store for us. But at this rate it definitely can’t be uninteresting, so, there’s always that.
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26 belp
October 1, 2015 at 10:49 PM
the writer was either on crack or brilliantly enough to come up with outrageous plot twist to ensure audience remained glued till the end even though how ridiculous it may appear.They don't care about quality and boundaries, only rating that matter. and despite massive plot holes, as usual deluded jw fangirls will come to the defences.
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SS
October 1, 2015 at 11:08 PM
Are you watching this drama? Please tell why you think it's outrageous? Don't just state. Criticisms like these get lumped with the haters'.
Being a fan of Joo Won doesn't mean that I am deluded. Since I have seen you at Koala's, can I assume that being a non-fan of Joo Won, you are biased against him and his dramas?
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⭐ Sera The Ms Temper ⭐
October 2, 2015 at 12:13 AM
Not everyone watch drama because the drama has a top quality, and flawless. I dunno about you, but for me I have many reasons to watch a drama, probably because there are actors/ess that i love, the story seems to be promising, or just randomly based on my mood.
So as one of person who cares so much about the quality of the drama u watch, can u share with me what are the dramas deserve the top quality? I want to watch it too, if I never watch it. Because I too want to understand how ppl measure the quality of drama..
Aaa, yes. unless you are the expert of the field, for eg maybe you are writer, or producer, please dont simply use your own logical as a viewer to decide about the quality of drama.
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Shuerei
October 2, 2015 at 5:40 AM
@ SS, sera agree with you both
@ belp
1. Are we deluded JW fangirls? I was not a Joo Won fan. I watched him in Gaksital and Good Doctor - good acting but for some reasons it's only in Yong Pal that I took a great note of his talents. And I'd go with brilliant writing as I watch it because of all the actors, not just Joo Won.
2. Qualities or boundaries?
I agree with @sera, we watch dramas for various reasons. Quality is subjective. I for one think that yongpal has good qualities. By the way, besides melo, action packed, Yong pal is also listed as a sci-fi so it's ok to have something out-of-ordinary.
3. We don't watch a show because it's highly rated. It's highly rated because people watch it. Let's not reverse the order ....
Most of us have watched shows that are not highly rated and we commented coz we like the shows. As for those who don't like the shows and yet comment repeatedly, that's pretty out of boundaries.
And why someone spend time on something that has no quality?Or perhaps people comment negatively coz it's highly rated, anti fans of JW...but why make themselves miserable...
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SS
October 2, 2015 at 6:51 AM
Well said @Shuerei!
I don't participate in comments unless I am very vested in a drama. Sometimes, I just want to enjoy without commenting especially if the forum has over 1000 comments like in Healer. So, I never get why people need to repeat ad nauseam their negative comments which are usually nothing constructive.
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27 cmak
October 1, 2015 at 11:20 PM
I haven't watched this episode (or ep 18) yet, and by the looks of the comments I'm not so sure I will (but probably will because what's two hours compared to the 16 I've already invested), but I just had to comment that Joo Won looks so not good in that first screen shot of him. Hoping he'll get good rest now that this is all over.
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28 azurebliss
October 1, 2015 at 11:39 PM
The show, especially this episode, has its flaws, plot holes, stretches of science logic and what not but I've enjoyed it as much as I did with IRY. And no, both of them showcased different things, so dont go raging on how IRY is a masterpiece while YP is rubbish, cause I know many will say it. Different as they are, both shows gave us strong heroines, and while one's moral compass worked faaaaar better than the other, I could understand both of their minds. The science may be overstreched in Yongpal, but the goals and drives are logical.
I am disappointed in ep 17 compared to the rest of the episodes, and I also think that the 'brilliance' and action died down long ago, but Yongpal is still on of my favs. It made me fell for both JW and KTH. Both are amazing actor and actress, we can't argue that one fact.
Finally, Yongpal is far from perfect, and despite its high ratings not all enjoy the twists and turns, but hey, that's okay. There are still unpicky(?) viewers like me. While many were unconvinced with the romance, I actually fell for that first. It was quite refreshing for me. Chemistry's good, so yay.
Have you all watch ep 18 tho?
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SS
October 1, 2015 at 11:52 PM
I watched IRY and I enjoyed it pretty much up to the last
couple of episodes. That was one which I did so much analysis and it was kind of fun. IRY had plot holes too but when discussing the drama in a forum, I could see how they didn't affect others in their enjoyment as much as it affected mine. It would be the same for Yong Pal. For a start, if a viewers find all the surgeries too unbelievable, Yong Pal would be a no go.
Ep 17 made sense to me but I admit, it's far from my favorite episodes. There was a thrill and excitement earlier in the series which appeared sporadically in the latter episodes. By any measure, Yong Pal is still an exhilarating ride. I haven't been so glued to a drama for a long time.
I have watched ep 18. But I think better to discuss it in next recap.
I just want to say, I like most of the twists and turns the writer took but sometimes, viewers prefer the drama to go where they expect it to. There maybe a lesson to be learned here.
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azurebliss
October 2, 2015 at 12:31 AM
I'm in a rush now but I still need to say this:
I'm not a fan girl of JW (well, not the totally biased one), but I'm totally a fan of your observations SS.
And yup, further discussions for ep 18 for sure!
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29 Affie
October 2, 2015 at 12:04 AM
Contrary to DB, I absolutely loooooooved this ep. I was fully prepared to dislike it too... for certain reasons...badly..feeling the weight of her position and decision...still angry at DaeJung's Chairman Choi...but still not wanting him to kill himself...being physically drained, exhausted and weak...hallucinating ghosts...acknowledging the weight of the guilty...
I was sooooo mad...and sad. I thought "when is this chick gonna catch a break? The people who died were trying to ruin her! Her sis-in-law who could have helped her was only prepared to do so for selfish reasons! The man she loves left her in the middle of her trying to restore her company...a legacy! Wut!" Probably what triggered the water show on my face! I couldn't stomach the unfairness of it all for a good 20 mins in...and was on the brink of being epicly disappointed...when, jaaaaaaannnggg, the truth started trickling its way through...a perfect revelation in bits... CY being a two-faced liar...DJ (and Go) being apparitions brought on by drugging and mental instability...Sec. Min being a filthy snake...TH actually missing YJ and hiding it well... I had to say "Well, WTF! Thank you very much, show!" Lol. I also had to take a 5 min break from it all to bask in my joy and relief. Becos believe me... That...was awesomeness!
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Affie
October 2, 2015 at 12:12 AM
At the top, I mean, YJ badly feeling the weight of her position...
the show said it was 6 months later.... 6 months.... 6 months... 6 months... 6 months... a lot can happen in 6 months, people.
Just saying. :)
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SS
October 2, 2015 at 1:06 AM
LOL, @Affie, this is why the drama has the tag "melo"
Not that the developments are impossible or illogical but that's what melo does to you. Sometimes. the emotional roller coaster is too much. That's why it's not my favorite genre. Thankfully, YP is a mix of genres. I had some good laughs in the beginning where TH was treating the little boy and Doo Chul at his First Floor Clinic. Isn't that name itself hilarious?
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Affie
October 2, 2015 at 1:48 AM
@SS.IKR! Definitely might not have waded into this at all had it been outright tagged as 'melo'. Thats what made me swear off Telemundo novelas! YP got the 'melo' elements down pat tho! Let me tell you the experience I had while watching this ep.
First off, I kept anticipating it all weekend long, then on Monday and Tuesday... I got myself really busy so I only thought about it occasionally. Then came Wednesday morning...day of show... I was brushing my teeth with excitement when I asked myself... "why on earth am I so happy?" "Ep. 17 of Yong Pal is showing tonight! Yaaaasss!" Then, hilarity ensued in front of my bathroom mirror when I suddenly realised I hadn't watched the preview of Ep. 17 yet. So I hurriedly rinsed my mouth and rushed to my laptop to check out the preview. Oh boy! It left me with so much sadness! it appeared as though YJ was continuing with her devil-may-care streak and TH really looked content to be rid of her, not to mention, Chae Young was looking all at peace with herself. Ugh. Made me so disturbed.
Then, evening rolled in and I watched ep. 17 without subtitles (I always do this btw whenever im live-watching. I realised it helps me pick up on Korean vocabulary cos when I'm intrigued by a word or phrase, I take particular notice of it and later when i check it out in English, it basically gets stuck in my head...and also becos waiting for eng subs can feel like its taking forever and I'm just that impatient!).
So... The weirdest thing happened... The moment I began watching ep. 17 w/o subtitles... silent tears just kept rolling down my cheeks... For almost the entire show...An endless stream of saltiness... No sounds... No face crinkling... No runny nose... Just tears. I didn't notice at first... Then I did about 5 mins in... and then I freaked out a little and got to thinking... "Ummm... Why am I so weepy? Ugggghhh..." And I realised omo... I was really, really, really feeling for YJ...
I mean, it's already a pleasant surprise that this show is one I can totally relate to...hallelujah! But KTH's acting in this ep. Just took it to another level. I was really feeling it! I actually tend go put myself in people's shoes a lot whenever im watching a drama. I put myself in practically everybody's shoes... Men, women, children...animals... Lol. I ask myself oodles of questions... "Geez... How would I feel if it were me in this exact same situation? Would I perhaps be reacting in a similar way to this character? Does what they are doing now make sense? Is there an explanation for their actions? Can this action be a normal or expected reaction to that action?" ...when I get my Bingo! Answers to my questions, the drama is a winner in my book!
So anyway, I really get into my dramas. Everybody knows I'm not playing when I get into a drama. It's also a reason I don't watch many of them at a go. Because I like to fully immerse myself into Each and Every Adventure with the...
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Affie
October 2, 2015 at 1:52 AM
Because I like to fully immerse myself into Each and Every Adventure with the characters, lol.
This ep was great. In fact, it was awesomeness! Wanna talk about the parts that were the most awesome to each of us? :)
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⭐ Sera The Ms Temper ⭐
October 2, 2015 at 2:09 AM
Dude, we are same. I guess watching Yong Pal especially in its melodramatic moment need to be alone so we can get the feels. And can cry without any ppl intervene lol.
I must say i love melo type more than rom-com, the heavier drama is the more joy i get.
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Affie
October 2, 2015 at 3:00 AM
@Sera.. dude... I know. My house need to be empty for me to fully enjoy my dramas... I fall off my seat, laugh out loud, curl into a ball and bawl too much when I'm watching my dramas to have an audience. Lol.
hehe. It's funny. Im really not the melo or rom com type. I'm very empathetic so melos drain me... and I like American rom coms ok... favorite ones ever... Pretty Woman, My Best Friends Wedding, 27 Dresses! But kdrama rom coms have this waiting for forever to believe in the love vibe and of course, the Second lead syndrome trope, where I always always like the Second lead more cos they are never as ashamed or abashed about their feelings whilst the Main lead gives us the runaround. It got so agonizing for me. So ive sworn off kdrama rom coms. Hehe!
I love a good love story tho. Ill tell u that. I'm just 29 anyway. Thats why I loved the flow of YPs love angle. I loooovved that they fell in love quickly. You have no idea! I think their chemistry was off the charts! So swoony. Lol.
but yeah, other than that, Dude... we should be peas in a pod :)
Shuerei
October 2, 2015 at 12:42 PM
@ Affie, SS, Sera
Oh Affie...you are so right on this: when is this chick gonna catch a break?
In fact, I was afraid to watch episode 18, fearing unhappy ending. I will never ever watch the writer's work again if he killed either TH or YJ.
It's really awful and depressing that lots of people are trying to kill and cheat her so now I fully empathize with her. I cried in this episode (watched w/o the English subs) and I just can't help rooting for her. How could one possibly complain about her acting. Her longing for him was written all over every inch of her face and limbs.
I see lots of ongoing negative comments about the show but I think they should follow your example - put themselves in the characters' shoes and I think they would be able to view things differently.
Also, the writer has a mission and a message. He writes in a guy who is down and desperate. Against all odds, he did the right things. That's what really makes people tune in. The Sewol tragedy is probably still fresh on people's minds. Sp I think people wanna see heroic deeds and they wanna see people fighting to rescue someone.
Then on the opposite quadrant he created an anti-archetype female protagonist who tried to do justice and yet bent on revenge. But coming to a close, she appeared to be at the risk of losing it all again due to corporate greed and selfish desires. And I just grew so despaired at her fate. Again, the writer is talking about the evils that lurk in the hearts and minds of people. It's a real world out there and if viewers got sidetracked by all the little details then they would miss out on the whole picture of the message. Redemption vs revenge. Love vs hate.
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Affie
October 2, 2015 at 3:55 PM
@Shuerei. What a lovely comment! I love every word! I can't reiterate enough how much this drama has resonated with me. I'm so unapologetic about it. The writer did a great job. Bravo to the actors and production team! I'll bet a lot of other people enjoyed it too. We are the brave ones wading out here and commenting on it! Lol. I loved all its transitioning too. This is the stuff I've been wanting out of my k-dramas for awhile now... Something fresh. And sweet too.
Sis...u shd have seen me watching ep. 18! I was a nervous wreck... Only other drama to do this to me was 49 DAYS. Crying and keeping my fingers crossed for a happy ending typically doesn't happen to me while watching other k-dramas!
It's been a great ride so far as far as concerned... And I'm so glad I met such a positive person as yourself through it :)
30 SS
October 2, 2015 at 1:16 AM
I going to import some negative comments of this episode which were points that also irked me. See if anyone has an answer here. So, maybe the writer is just annoying, ha.
I'll go with this one first:
Why did Tae Hyun not seek Yeo Jin out at all during this 6 months? He was like way too passive for someone who's apparently so in love with her.
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Affie
October 2, 2015 at 1:40 AM
@SS. Hahaha! IKR! That finally got to you a little too, right? I also didn't get it. Ive said a couple of things upthread. Would love if you could check them out. Thx... lol. But im also gonna answer your quandary here. Cos as much as I wasnt into TH being as passive as he was... I quite suddenly began to see how it added to the show's notion of YJ being a strong, independent woman and a good guy who was willing to give her time to come to him on her own terms.
how many times have we hated the boorish males characters that force themselves on female characters with wrist grabs, collar grabs, jacket grabs, forced kisses, stalking, and a generally overbearing nature, lol. TH's nature, viewed in the light of such past alpha male actions, quite suddenly became a welcome relief to me. I was taken aback when it dawned on me actually.
let's also not forget when he said he could wait however long it took for her to get better... finally, a man sticking to his words.
granted. He could have contacted her. But YJ needed to feel she needed him in her life. Granted. He gave her too much space. But again, if we could apply real life standards for a bit... absence really does make the heart grow fonder. And complete absence at that.
Anyway... I feel like rambling on and on... hehe! I could keep going... this drama took me to a good place. YJ needed redemption. I agree. This show was all types of preachy.... reaping what you sow... and YJ having her free will to make decisons until she really, really needed YP. Super novel in a kdrama. Just lovely.
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SS
October 2, 2015 at 2:09 AM
The more I write, the more I realize I do love this episode.
I gotta to run so I post my take later.
For now, I just want to say that if we stalk our ex after a breakup. we should brace ourselves for disappointment. Many a times, we expect to see the other person wallowing in grief, walking like a zombie, crestfallen face and all. And then the sight of the person carrying on with his/her own life as normal as it can be, hits you like a ton of bricks. Throw in a smile or laughter and I am sure it would be so not rewarding.
This is exactly what happened to TH when he saw YJ on TV and in news reports - cool, confident and poised, totally where she belonged. He didn't see the lonely, sad face of YJ unless he hides in the flower pot of her office or beneath her bed. Neither did Yeo Jin. She stalked him and saw him smiling and laughing and thought he was happy.
*Sigh* sometimes for all the smartness we have, we are just dumb when it comes matters of the heart.
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Affie
October 2, 2015 at 2:46 AM
@SS. Yes. A million times... hehe. For me, this was a perfect show over all. But we can talk about our pet peeves too... those that were resolved, those we came to understand and accept and those we came to love thus far...
but yes, that can be for later.... so do run along now. Have a lovely day! Laterz... ;)
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Affie
October 2, 2015 at 3:38 AM
We could also just wait it out, relax and come guns blazing for the ep. 18 recap. Lol! Give YP a heart felt send-off. Nice alternative :)
Shuerei
October 2, 2015 at 4:10 AM
Good question:feedback SS, Affie
Some suggested reasons for his "withdrawal" from YJ's presence in the past 6 months:
1. I supposed TH was busy with opening the clinic and taking care of his sister's return.
2. Chae young may have deliberately distracted him with a lot of chores.
3. He may be doing lots of yong-paling around the village
4. He's taking care of lots of gangster wounds ..
5. KTH has lots of bodyguards surrounding her so it's quite inconvenient for him to pop up at her residence and office - but likely the main reason is that if he showed up first, YJ may not feel he was serious about the 12-13th floor thingy and he won't be doing her a favor by hanging around ...
6. I think he is certainly missing her night and day although the episode doesn't show it. Despite his saintly nature, having to feed a "former" bodyguard seems a bit stretched. Hence, I think he doesn't mind coz the bodyguard is like a constant reminder about YJ
SS
October 2, 2015 at 7:20 AM
@Shuerei, good suggestions for TH's absence. Actually, he was always there, waiting for her call. Haha...I just wondered how long would he wait.
This is my take on TH which I open for your criticism. I think TH doesn't know how much YJ loves him. He was pretty sure of his love for her but I feel her signals to him weren't as strong.
Back in ep 8, YJ said she needed time to be fully over Sung Hoon's death(not SH himself). He said he would wait and he kissed her. (I still don't understand why people can't get that. She said wait for her scars to heal and that could take mighty long time. Must he wait until then to start romancing her? She never said she won't start a relationship until she's healed. Gawd!) It's interesting that TH brought this up again in ep 13 when YJ didn't want to sleep in the same room as TH. He said he will wait to which YJ denied it's about SH. However, she didn't give her answer. Could be as simple as a proposal and wedding that she wanted. Still, it's interesting to note that in TH's mind, he thought YJ isn't ready yet.
After the initial short-lived bliss, YJ got sucked into her revenge path and was also busy fighting wars with so many parties. Where was TH? I feel that he was relegated to the background. It's not that he doesn't understand what's she doing but she's not giving him much to strengthen his belief that the marriage was real either. If I were in his position, I would have felt used.
TH knew that the 13th floor would be the place where one's soul dies bit by bit. He tried to persuade YJ but to no avail. In line with TH's style, he let YJ make her own choice. He can only hope that one day, she will come to him on her own accord. He was always ready to go to her if she were to call, pretty much like how he ran to her in church. If she never called, TH would have thought that YJ can do without him.
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Shuerei
October 2, 2015 at 11:03 AM
@ SS
Just like Lea, I am a fan of your comments.
1) Like you, I see the kiss in the church as his way of showing his love and interests towards her. It's also an appreciative gesture that she would call him first as her only option:choice. And I did notice he took hold of her hand first prior to kissing her. If she had pulled away, he would not proceed.
2) Yes the kitchen pre bedtime, I think both had a bit of cross-wire talk there. He thought she was not ready and gave an excuse that she is not well. And she was hoping for something more romantic by hinting strongly on the wedding dress. Finally they agreed that errr bedtime together can "wait". But seriously I think if TH had insisted, she might give in... hahahaha but our boy was too shy, pure and gentleman for such tactics.
3) He loved her unconditionally despite being pawn in DJ's death (and his mom's fatal neglect). I read somewhere that "if you truly loved someone, you don't ask to be loved in return although you may expect it". And I think TH may have the same thoughts.
And when it comes to YJ, his request to come/go to him was not a condition for himself but rather it's for her own good. He knew if he stuck around the mansion, she would have no incentive to leave the dark and murky world.
4) TH is not the most "confident" guy around. I dunno whether lack of confidence and humility are the same. But he certainly demonstrated that on top of the hill. He doesn't see himself as strong or capable so in that same vein, I agree with you that he may not fully grasp YJ's love for him. He hoped that she loves him but he was too absorbed in his naive ways that he didn't even know how to confess to her.
That's TH's blind spot. He certainly didn't know how much he meant to her. So he does it again and again. Leaving her to call him, leaving her to save her, leaving to be killed by DJ, leaving her to go to him. So I think it all boils down to his confidence.
31 Moonbean
October 2, 2015 at 2:19 AM
Oh Heads, I really feel for you for recapping this... I hope you are not on another round of recapping terrible shows and will be rewarded with another Liar Game soon.
Sincere thanks for going through THIS for us.
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NoIdeaName
October 2, 2015 at 9:59 AM
True, Heads had The Time I've Loved you, which was an even bigger mess, so yes, she deserves many thanks
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32 gem28
October 2, 2015 at 2:38 AM
Thank for the recap. Yong Pal for me, started out great. Sure, it was a bit over the top but enjoyable nonetheless and I can be happy with that. Then things went down for me since the romance kicked in, looked better when Yeo Jin took over for a slight while and then took a nose-dive and didn't recover. As a viewer, that is what I felt. And I absolutely didn't feel the chemistry between Joo Won and Kim Tae Hee.
Also, this is a show that lacked the most from not having a proper and believable villain. We started off with President Go and Do Joon. The Han-Shin power struggle in the midst of a Sleeping Beauty and vigilante doctor was a wonderful setup. And its believable for one or two of the key shareholders to be so greedy and corrupt, all of them, that's a stretch. So much could have been done here but the story kept loosing momentum as the show progressed past episode 6. The villains, they were reduced to raging maniacs who lacked power or true capacity in terms of producing any lasting impression on me as a viewer and none of them really could produce enough complications or moral dilemma for both the leads. Its a shame because Jo Hyun-Jae has wonderful range and powerful presence as an actor. Instead of giving everyone a shot at being a villain like some sort of game, a definite villain who actually was menacing would have been nice.
Anyway, I'm happy for Joo Won. I hope he gets some rest. This was one of those dramas that was mostly a hot-mess without proper direction for me but it was okay, sort of.
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Blcktron
October 2, 2015 at 8:30 AM
I agree whole heartedly!!!
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33 Mil
October 2, 2015 at 5:20 AM
Geez... am I the only one here with any medical background?
Stage II cancer is NOT advanced cancer. That would be Stage III or IV. Unless its some horribly incurable cancer like pancreatic cancer.But it will become advanced if not treated, because she is being drugged and has no clue what is going on. So she will die if no one intervenes. Insane that she is so trusting and doesn't go out of her comfort zone to see someone about it. Because, as you say, its in the script. But of course, he will intervene and she will get treatment. At least that is what I suspect will happen.
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Affie
October 2, 2015 at 6:50 AM
@Mil... nice to see a medical person here. Yay! Thanks for your input. I wish you would elaborate more though, lol, if you don't mind. Was the cancer premise based of the drugs that farfetched or can it be a probability? This kind of to satisfy my personal curiosity because I dont get the recap's argument clearly. I feel like the recap analysis is calling into doubt the ability of a drug to induce cancer within a certain period of time...
it's either that argument or the analysis is trying to make an argument based on doubting CY's ability to use ingenious ways to deliver her revenge to YJ. Like inducing cancer is soo Dr Frankenstein of her... lol.
Umm... this is little Mrs. Chae the Constant Schemer Young...
And for the avoidance of doubt...
I have no problems with my belief in the probability of either premise.
I just remain pleasantly curious...
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34 Sara
October 2, 2015 at 6:56 AM
Really sad about what happened to this show. Such a disappointment. What a waste. :(
It is basically Doctor Stranger Season 2.
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August
October 3, 2015 at 4:19 PM
Have to disagree with you on Yong Pal being a Season 2 version of Doctor Stranger. The writing, narrative/plot/story, themes, character behavior & conflicts, "all" of the main leads, and mix of genres - it's not even close.
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35 Alessar
October 2, 2015 at 7:09 AM
I was entertained by this show. Not always for the right reasons. A lot of really strange decisions were made. Chae Young, for instance, was alienated way back by YJ. If YJ had just been all, "Girlfriend we need to get you divorced from my slime half-bro and then go to Tahiti" the entire revenge plotline wouldn't have been needed, as silly as it was. The cool nurses were underused, the loan shark dude who was his agent got stabbed by the assassin and we never saw him again (lived? died? became a magazine editor at The Most). Some cool people left too soon (Cynthia) or came in briefly (the bodyguard, the quiet hacker). I feel like there was SO MUCH POTENTIAL and it was basically just flushed down the drain and that's what was so frustrating. Contrast this to Healer where at the end they had this awesome team going against a conspiracy.
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SS
October 2, 2015 at 7:32 AM
When did you think YJ could have gotten CY divorced from Do Joon?
Before YJ's accident, she didn't like CY but she couldn't stop her brother(whom she loved at that point) from choosing CY as his bride. Her brother was in love with CY and pleaded with his Dad to let him have her as his wife.
After the accident, YJ was placed in coma. Unless you are saying YJ could have gotten them to divorce while she was in that state.
After YJ woke up and gained control, she actually did CY divorced from DJ! Did you catch that part? In ep 15, the Chief of Security under YJ's instruction told CY that DJ granted her the divorce. But short of YJ dragging CY to Tahiti or killing her, CY lived to exact her revenge.
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36 Aya
October 2, 2015 at 7:26 AM
I was able to stand watching the ridiculousness until episode 14... Then, started reading recaps only from 15 ep. I wish it ended at 16 ep, so that I could still rate it as one of my favorite drama of 2015, but it got extended, the plot worsen and ruin the whole drama for me.. Ask me if I know Yong Pal.. My answer will be : nugu? Mullaa..
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37 Blcktron
October 2, 2015 at 8:10 AM
I didn't like this drama but felt like I should watch it since I really really hate leaving things unfinished. This drama was a hot mess of insane nonsensical situations and people (the good ones were under utilized). KTH in my... (MY!!!!) opinion is a brick, couldn't glean a single emotion that made me feel anything from her character that would make me invest into her and the show more. The last two episodes are laughably bad and unecessary, and only seem to drive in the final stake.
That's my take and I don't need combative commenters to tell me I missed something or I am cynical or unintelligible or not watching the best kdrama of 2015, this show had promise but that went out the window ages ago.
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kalel
October 3, 2015 at 4:11 AM
Since I consider myself far from the combative commenter type of person, I suggest the writer's first project OCN "Reset". Once you watch that drama you'll be able to see the reason SBS chose this writer and the real genre behind Yong Pal's initial(?) story. I'm convinced that it was more "noir" than melodrama or romance, despite the outcome. However, as Anthony Kim stated in King of Dramas, local audiences are not particularly fond of noir dramas and they usually flop rating-wise. So, the reason why two mega-stars signed up for this genre to begin with is a tad odd. Nevertheless, I agree that it's stupid and silly, at the very least, for anyone to attack on everyone else just because they with different PoVs about a drama.
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38 Blcktron
October 2, 2015 at 8:14 AM
I agree whole heartedly!!!
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39 joeyuel
October 2, 2015 at 8:34 AM
from @SS'S brilliance to mirindas unwilliness to understand this website was full of opposite comments but we all know that Yong pal isn't any ordinary doctor he saw that the gangsters were hurt just by seeing their face(just like doctors can tell your unwell just from your face, I mean they get to c sick faces the whole day and they can't tell it's different from the healthy face they see when they're off from work) but liver cancer causes abdominal swelling so you can feel it by touch although you can't tell if it's a liver cancer which was why taehyun only new it was a cancer after seeing the CT scan
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40 joeyuel
October 2, 2015 at 8:46 AM
Just making sure spelling errors don't make you understand me wrong. from @SS’S brilliance to mirindas unwilliness to understand this website was full of opposite comments but we all know that Yong pal isn’t any ordinary doctor. he saw that the gangsters were hurt just by seeing their face(just like doctors can tell your unwell just from your face, I mean they get to c sick faces the whole day and they can’t tell it’s different from the healthy face they see when they’re off from work???) but liver cancer causes abdominal swelling so you can feel it by touch although you can’t tell if it’s a liver cancer that caused the swelling which was why taehyun only new it was a cancer after seeing the CT scan and heads you've got to know cancer can occur due to use of certain drugs that contain aflatoxin for example
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41 AmeliaBedelia
October 2, 2015 at 11:11 AM
What can I say, I like the OTP scenes. The episode was a bit slow, but I thought it was fine. The show at the end wasn't the thrill ride I fell in love with in episodes 1-6, but I still enjoyed it for what it was. Joowon and Kim Tae Her inhabited their characters and kept me coming back.
I am especially thankful that Tae Hyun's white shirt/tight gray pants combo came back. (Ok, mostly the pants.)
My fantasy though is a Yong Pal prequel. Just him jerry-rigging surgeries and dodging the law and looking pretty. Sadly, the prequel would probably be light on Doo Chul, but I am willing to accept some other lovably shady side characters.
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Affie
October 2, 2015 at 12:32 PM
@AmeliaBedelia. You are not alone in your stance :). I absolutely loved the part where YJ saw TH face-to-face at the hospital for the first time in months and thought she was hallucinating. I loved that he just walked up and spoke to her, completely disregarding her men-in-black guards and ugh...the evil Sec. Min. The contrast between how surprised and glad she was to see him and her barely veiled disdain for the directors bounding down the stairs in fake concern for her was flawless. Then the congratulations on his clinic, as he started to walk away, in front of all those traitors was such a deep moment. In that small gesture, I saw how much YJ would always consider TH will to be a cut above all the simpering directors she detests but can't help surrounding herself with. Also... Lol. Having some great shots of Joo Won's very nice butt in that scene really helped. Joo Won's butt is now on par with Hyun Bin's butt in my life. Lol.
Everything that happened in the scenes where serendipitously, YJ still managed to see TH despite all CY's scheming were also pure gold! Lovely reunion. Beautiful dialogue. On-fire sitting down kiss scene. I promise you... everytime YJ and TH are that close in a scene, I keep screaming "Kiss the girl" like that red lobster in the The Little Mermaid! And it helps that those two always look like they really want to do it anyway! So Hot! :) Awesomeness!
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42 jvlovesk
October 2, 2015 at 12:47 PM
I know everyone thinks this storyline is crazy. But it makes sense to me. Strong sedatives for 3 years does cause liver damage that leads to cancer. And CY is angry because of DJ but mostly because YJ treated her so badly after she helped her change her look and sneak her into the funeral. She says Thank you by kicking her out of her home.
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43 mmeuh
October 2, 2015 at 3:31 PM
Some people here are funny, so one who isn't an expert about sth can't give their opinion on it? everyone has different taste and even if only one plot hole bothers them then it's their problem. Nobody is obligated to give a reason, or explain it to those who think otherwise. because there's no right or wrong in this matter. some enjoys a drama with all its nonsense or exaggeration or makjang elements, others prefer logic and consistent plot etc I don't feel to explain why i find this drama lacking(despite my love for the first six eps), so many things didn't work for me, i can't bother citing them all, that doesn't mean i'm a 'hater'. I admit i expected so much from this drama after 6eps but it went all on downhill from ep8. Still kudos to Kim Tae Hee and Joo Won though, no complaint here for their acting, though i found their chemistry more palpable at the beginning when they only had a few conversations but very memorable (and other actors as well, they all did good jobs). If i want to throw eggs at anyone, it'd be the writer and those behind the broadcast station who only care about rating/money.
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KDramaNewbie
October 3, 2015 at 12:28 AM
AMEN
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kalel
October 3, 2015 at 6:01 AM
Please, please, hold the eggs in the kitchen and try to watch Reset on OCN. The poor, poor writer is promising and inspired, perhaps a bit more than he supposed to be for a mainstream network. Yong Pal is merely his second work and he was terribly unfortunate, like Mask's writer, to lay a hit show for SBS, rating-wise.
I have zip idea of whether he was forced to a different trajectory from his original idea (cast the stones at the channel because it's common knowledge that they do "only care about rating/money") or he did it on his own initiative (cast the stones at him because he does "only care about money") but it's obvious that the original plot belongs to a completely different genre. Is that remotely important, though? At the end of the day, probably not; nevertheless, every entertainment industry around the world needs good stories to keep things involving and I still think that this particular writer does not deserve the eggs, in terms of inspiration and imagination (objections on a materialistic basis is a totally different topic, imho!)...
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44 Fran
October 3, 2015 at 4:30 AM
Unfortunate what this show has become.
There were potentials in the beginning, but I think the writer started to take drugs because what is going on.
I just want this to end already.
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45 Anna140
October 3, 2015 at 5:59 AM
This drama went downhill from episode 6. Our female lead kept whispering till the end.
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46 No1
October 18, 2015 at 5:18 AM
5 stars for this episode
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47 mlalonde0
November 9, 2015 at 4:10 PM
I have to say, HeadsNo2, I love your writing and sense of humor. "Because script." is a classic and "Tae Hyun just continuing to be a big scoop of vanilla icecream" is the perfect description!
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