Twenty Again: Episode 12
by girlfriday
I didn’t think this hero could get any swoonier, but he just keeps raising the bar. I’m convinced this is a fantasy drama now, because people like this just don’t exist in real life. It’s a rough day for our heroine as revelations come hurtling at her from just about every single person around her, but the angst is buoyed by her budding feelings, and I have to say—the ensuing awkwardness was worth the wait.
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EPISODE 12 RECAP
Nora opens her eyes at the jjimjilbang to discover that she’s sleeping right next to Hyun-seok, and her heart suddenly starts to race. And then to top it off, Hyun-seok slings his arm over her in his sleep and she panics.
Sadly he’s not awake to witness her spazzing, and she sliiiiiides out from under his arm and is still so frazzled by her own reaction that she gets dressed and runs out of there at the crack of dawn.
She puts her hand over her racing heart and wonders why it’s beating so fast, and if it’s malfunctioning. I know a man you could see about that.
Hyun-seok gets up and sees that both girls are gone, then finds Seung-hyun sleeping a little distance away. He calls just as Nora is arriving at home, and he’s relieved to hear that she’s safe. She doesn’t have a good excuse for why she suddenly left, so she blurts that it was too hot to sleep there.
He tells her to make sure to tell her husband about why she spent the night out, and she says she’ll handle it. She hangs up feeling weird and wonders aloud, “Why am I so uncomfortable?” as she presses a hand against her flushed face. Hyun-seok assumes that she felt bad about staying out all night if she dashed home at daybreak.
Woo-chul comes out of his room to ask about the phone call, and Nora just says that it’s a friend and walks away without explaining anything about last night. He guesses that it was Hyun-seok on the phone, which raises his hackles.
In the morning, Hyun-seok gets Seung-hyun’s security bars replaced, and she promises to pay him back as soon as she gets paid. He tells her she can repay him with favors instead, like the one last night when she told him where they were.
Seung-hyun: “You like Nora unni, don’t you?” He denies it, but we see that Seung-hyun came out of the restroom last night and saw them sleeping cozily next to each other. She smiles knowingly and tells him that they’re a good match, but he swears that they’re just friends.
Meanwhile, Nora gives Soon-nam the bad news that she has to quit their dance club. Nooooo, why? She says there’s hardly any time left after her part-time jobs, and has also come to terms with the fact that there’s a time for everything, and her dancing days are behind her.
He tries to convince her to stay, but she says that she’ll come running to help out if they ever need her. Soon-nam threatens to hold her to that, and Nora promises, assuring him that once a hoobae is forever a hoobae.
Nora walks across campus and sees Hyun-seok approaching on his bike, and gets adorably flustered. She raises her hand to wave, but when he doesn’t see her she spins around feeling awkward.
She decides to try again with an even bigger wave, then feels even more awkward and spins around to hide behind a tree, like she suddenly doesn’t know how to function. I love it. It’s like the battle of the dorks.
She inches around the tree to avoid being seen, then tries to slow down her rapidly beating heart, wondering again what’s come over her. She flashes back to Hyun-seok’s sleeping face inches from hers, and gets mad at him for sleeping near her and scaring her.
Yi-jin is surprised when she gets a chilly greeting from Hyun-seok today, and decides that he doesn’t have a crush on her after all. She busts out her whiteboard to figure out what the heck Nora’s relationship is to both men to make Hyun-seok act so hot and cold towards her, then finally comes up with the only explanation: He knows about her affair.
She remembers how cryptic he was when he returned her fountain pen with the engraving on it, and cringes to realize that he knew all along. She goes to confront him about it head-on, and he doesn’t deny it.
Yi-jin tells him that he’s got it all wrong though, because her relationship with Woo-chul isn’t an affair—he’s long been divorced in practice with Nora. Aaaaah, he knows! He knows!
Hyun-seok is floored, and asks angrily for her to explain what that means. Yi-jin tells him that it’s been years since Nora and Woo-chul have signed contracts for their divorce, and that the only reason they haven’t finalized it is because Nora is hanging on. Oh no, don’t tell him your warped version of the story! She even says that Nora came to college in an effort to hold onto her husband.
Nora and Sang-ye take a break to decide on lunch, and when ddukboki comes up as an option, Sang-ye is surprised to hear that Hyun-seok still hasn’t told her about that ddukboki place. She tells her that their high school friend Dong-chul runs it, and Nora heads over there to see for herself.
She finds it on a little corner, and it’s called Granny Flower Ddukboki, just like her grandmother’s old shop. Dong-chul assumes that Hyun-seok finally told her about the place, and Yoon-young is just as surprised when she joins them.
Dong-chul tells them that after Grandma’s funeral, he went to go clean up after her shop, and Hyun-seok came with him. We see them in flashback as they both sigh over never being able to eat Grandma’s ddukboki again.
When Dong-chul finds Grandma’s secret sauce, there’s a recipe on the lid drawn in pictures instead of words, and Hyun-seok is able to interpret it based on the things Grandma used to tell him. In the present, Dong-chul says that he didn’t know it then, but Hyun-seok was the one who bought Grandma’s shop and left it under someone else’s care. The girls are shocked and ask why, and Dong-chul remembers him saying that he’d miss it for the rest of his life.
Then much later, Dong-chul was saddled with debt and moved here thinking of opening a shop, and found this one. He’s been running it ever since. Nora asks with tears brimming in her eyes, “Hyun-seok protected my grandmother’s store?”
Meanwhile Hyun-seok is reeling from the news that Nora is in the middle of a divorce, only he interprets it all the wrong way, remembering how Yoon-young said that Woo-chul was Nora’s entire universe. He sighs, “Ha Nora, you dummy, did you hang on like that all this time?”
Dong-chul serves the girls a plate of Grandma’s ddukboki, and Nora starts to well up as she thanks him and Hyun-seok for doing what she couldn’t. She takes a taste, and her tears spill out as soon as she eats one.
When Hyun-seok arrives at the office, Sang-ye is worried because Nora ran off and never came back when she heard about the ddukboki shop. Sang-ye worries that she made another mistake, but Hyun-seok says it’s good for her to have good memories right now, so that she can remember that she had someone who loved her that much.
Dong-chul calls to tell Hyun-seok that Nora is there, and when he hears that she’s crying, Hyun-seok tells him to close up shop for the day so that she can have a good cry. Awww. He promises to make up today’s sales personally, and Dong-chul asks if he’s Nora’s husband or father. Hyun-seok: “I’m her oppa!” Oh, swoon.
Sang-ye wonders what’s going on, and Hyun-seok sighs that Nora’s relationship with her husband was far more complicated than he knew, and it was never something he could fix in the first place.
He says it’s impossible to live outside of your universe, and he regrets not being nicer to her from the start, offering her someone to lean on instead of bugging her and yelling at her: “I should’ve been good to her, like an oppa.”
Nora returns to the office still a little teary-eyed, and wonders what she’ll say to Hyun-seok when she sees him. She decides that thank you isn’t enough, but doesn’t know how else to express her gratitude.
But when she gets inside, Hyun-seok is all business and suggests that they have their meeting elsewhere. Sang-ye says that there’s a place he likes to go to clear his head, and soon they’re at camping grounds.
Hyun-seok hands both Nora and Sang-ye stuff to read before their meeting, and insists on taking over the cooking while they work. Can I have him? When Nora protests, he leads her to the chair and plops her down in it, their faces getting awfully close in the process.
Nora gets fluttery again and quickly agrees to stay put. She doesn’t get much reading done though, because she’s too busy watching him cook with a goofy smile on her face. When he tastes his soup and smiles, she notes, “That’s right, he has dimples.” I’m sorry, what. How could you not notice those giant craters of cuteness until now?
She’s super impressed with the giant spread and says after one taste that he might even be better than her. Hyun-seok protests that he’s not nearly as good, then catches himself when he remembers he’s supposed to hate her cooking. Nora sighs happily that she can’t remember the last time someone cooked for her, and Hyun-seok’s heart seems to crumble a little more.
After dinner, they play Go Stop to determine the loser who has to wash dishes, and Hyun-seok totally cheats… so that he can deal Nora all the good cards so that she’ll win. Aaaagh, why are you so cute?
Nora refuses to let him do the dishes alone, so he lets her rinse. She finally gets to say thank you for Grandma’s shop, and says that she didn’t know he loved her grandmother that much. He tells her that Grandma fed him a lot back in the day, and that if she’s really that grateful, she can say, “Thank you, oppa.”
He points out that he’s taller than her, bigger than her, and his birthday comes before hers, so that makes him an oppa. She laughs and wonders why he wants to be oppa all of a sudden, and he says that she doesn’t have an oppa and he doesn’t have a little sister, so she can think of him as her oppa from now on.
Nora throws him an, “Okay, o-ppa,” and makes his day. She comes home in good spirits and happily agonizes over what to text to Hyun-seok, deciding on a thank-you with a smiley face.
Yi-jin calls Woo-chul to ask when he’s going to come up with that solution he promised, to secure his standing at the university and make their marriage possible. He snaps he’s working on it and wonders if Yi-jin was always like this. Trouble in paradise?
Woo-chul attends a lunch with colleagues, and seems very interested to hear that a new position is opening up at a different school. Ooh, that would be so nice for everyone if you took a new job.
Min-soo and Hye-mi end up wandering in circles looking for a dessert place that night, and he happens to spot Mom working at the convenience store. He’s so appalled that he ditches Hye-mi and runs home to confront Dad about it, and Dad says her part-time job is just office work.
But Min-soo tells him about the convenience store, and Dad is just as shocked. Min-soo says it’s their business if they get divorced, but he demands that Dad pay Mom’s tuition: “It’s your fault she didn’t get to go to school at the right time!”
Woo-chul demands to know where the convenience store is, and is horrified to see the manager giving Nora the leftover triangle kimbap to take home. He storms in to pick a fight with him for calling her an ajumma and treating her like that, and declares that she’s a professor’s wife. This is so embarrassing.
He grabs Nora’s wrist and tries to drag her out of there, and the whole time he’s shouting, “What is Professor Kim Woo-chul’s wife doing here?!” Of course, this is all about you, isn’t it? The manager doesn’t believe him, thinking that the husband is obviously a loser if she has to work here.
Woo-chul angrily lunges forward to fight him… and brings an entire shelf down on himself instead. Ha, I love when he falls and then poses like he totally meant to sit down in the middle of the floor like that.
He ends up having to pay for the shelf he broke, on top of getting Nora fired. He says he’ll give her money, because having her work at a place like this is disgracing his name, but she counters that she’s not his wife anymore.
Woo-chul says that it’s not legally binding yet, so until then, she’s his responsibility. Nora says she’s not a child: “I’M going to take responsibility for me.” He doesn’t see how she’s going to live off these wages, then asks if Hyun-seok offered to pay her way. Barf. That is so offensive.
He warns her not to get divorced believing in Hyun-seok’s lies, and Nora just scoffs in disbelief and asks if Woo-chul was always this impossible to talk to. I do love it when she uses his words back at him. She whirls around and leaves him in the street mid-sentence.
Down in the subway, Nora sees a couple playing peekaboo and finds it cute, but that triggers a memory she’d pushed aside all this time. She now remembers Hyun-seok being at the theater that night when she caught Woo-chul cheating—he had tried to cover her eyes and followed her out.
She heads over to his place late at night to ask him about it, and when she asks it so directly—if he saw her husband there with another woman—he can’t deny it. She gets choked up and says, “You saw. That’s why you were like that to me.” Aw, no.
He tries to explain, but she says he must’ve laughed at her for running away like that after seeing her husband cheating on her, and asks why he didn’t say anything and made her embarrassed.
Nora: “That’s why you were acting like a friend and being nice, when you hated me before that. Because you felt sorry for me?” He tries to get her to come inside so he can explain, but she shakes his hand away and runs off.
He goes running after her down the street, shouting that she’s got it all wrong. But she hides in the shadows and lets him run past her, believing the worst as she remembers all the times he said he was just helping her because he felt sorry for her.
Later, she sits in the dark at home and wonders tearfully how stupid he must think she is. And in the morning, she calls Sang-ye to say that she’s quitting. Hyun-seok doesn’t understand what he is to her that she’d be upset enough to quit her job.
He calls and she ignores it, but he tracks her down on campus in no time, like a proper stalker. She tries to scurry out of the computer lab before he spots her, but he cuts her off outside.
He asks why she’d quit over something like that, and says it hurts his feelings that she’d avoid him like this when they’re friends. She says that she’s the one who’s uncomfortable and tell him to find someone new, but he refuses and tells her he’s going to wait for her to show up to the audition tonight.
She gets a call from Yi-jin offering to let her know about a part-time job, and walks away without giving Hyun-seok an answer. Hyun-seok plops down on a bench in frustration, and happens to witness a fight between Min-soo and Hye-mi.
Hye-mi is upset that Min-soo won’t tell her what’s going on with him lately, and Min-soo just asks for some time to figure things out, promising to tell her later. They just go round and round in circles, until finally Hyun-seok gets up and counsels them, not knowing at all who they are.
He tells Hye-mi that guys go into a cave when they have a problem, and tells her to just be patient because her boyfriend will eventually crawl out of the cave and tell her what’s going on. He tells Min-soo that telling his girlfriend nothing makes her just assume the worst, and she’s asking to have her feelings acknowledged.
He puts his hands on their shoulders like some dating guru and says that men and women are this different… and also difficult. It’s funny, given how bad he is at his own love life.
Yi-jin tells Nora about a part-time job at a friend’s gallery that’s opened up, and Nora asks why she’s finding her a job. Yi-jin says it’s simply because she was looking for one, and starts asking her all sorts of questions about why she’s working.
Nora cuts her off by addressing her as Kim Yi-jin-sshi, and notes that this must be difficult for her. Nora says that it doesn’t matter who she is or why she came to school: “You can have Kim Woo-chul.” OMO.
Yi-jin’s jaw drops, and Nora says she knows who she is and why she’s doing this. We flash back to their last encounter in the bathroom, when Yi-jin was stalking her that day. Nora sees that “Cousin Oppa” calls, and Yi-jin hurries outside with her phone.
Outside, Yi-jin asks why Nora is working for Hyun-seok, and offers to look into an additional position for her if she wants it. As Nora watches her go, she gets a strange feeling and remembers the number that flashed when Cousin Oppa called, and checks it against Woo-chul’s number in her own phone.
It’s a match. And so is the purse Yi-jin is carrying—it’s the same one she saw Woo-chul holding at the theater. She even remembers passing by Yi-jin that day when she stole Hye-mi away to save Min-soo from getting caught.
Back in the present, Yi-jin tries to act innocent, but Nora tells her about the matching phone numbers. Nora asks why she’s asking her all this stuff, and if she still hasn’t heard from Woo-chul that they’re going to process their divorce.
This is clearly news to Yi-jin, and Nora says that she agreed to push it until the end of July because Woo-chul needed to confirm his family status with the university. Judging from Yi-jin’s confused reaction, that was a bullshit excuse, and both women realize they’ve been lied to. Yi-jin is flabbergasted at Nora’s nonchalant offer to let her have Woo-chul, which doesn’t jive at all with her being the hanger-on in their marriage.
Nora goes straight to Woo-chul’s office and calls him out on his lie, and says that she’s just met with “your woman Kim Yi-jin.” She says she doesn’t really care why he lied to prolong their marriage, and asks to go to court right now.
He flails and says that he delayed things because he determined that she needed more time, and finally Nora yells, “Stop it!” She says he does everything according to his own selfish perspective, and that he has narcissistic personality disorder, quoting her intro psych class. She asks him not to stall any longer, and leaves him totally spun around.
He can barely process what just happened, and wonders how Nora found out about Yi-jin. All he can think is that Hyun-seok told her, and storms over to his office to grab him by the collar and accuse him of meddling.
Woo-chul thinks that Hyun-seok is the one who saw them at the theater and told Nora all about it, while Hyun-seok is shocked to hear that Nora knows about Yi-jin. Woo-chul wants to know what Hyun-seok coached Nora to say, because otherwise she’d never be the first to shove divorce papers at him. YAAASSSSSS.
Hyun-seok freezes and just repeats, “Divorce papers? Nora… asked for a divorce? When? When?! Did Nora really decide to get a divorce?!” I’m flailing right now.
Woo-chul walks out of there stunned speechless, and realizes that Hyun-seok knew nothing about this, and that he really meant it when he was trying to help them patch up their marriage. And then it dawns on him: “He sincerely likes her?”
Hyun-seok takes a moment to process this monumental news, then calls Nora repeatedly, begging with texts for her to answer the phone. She finally does, and he pleads with her to come to work because they desperately need the help. He whines, “You said we were friends! You said you were thankful I came back as your friend!”
She doesn’t reply, but it works because she runs over to help out and save the day. They get through auditions, and Hyun-seok pats her on the head as he tells her that she did a good job. Aw, he means her deciding to leave Woo-chul, doesn’t he? She just wonders what’s gotten into him when all she did was show up to work.
He walks out with her, insisting that he has somewhere to be and is taking the bus too. She tells him that she’s still quitting the job and lies that she found other work already, but he’s already heard from Seung-hyun that she hasn’t.
He swears that he’s not that good a person to do all of this just because he felt sorry for her, and that even when he thought she was dying, or when he found out about her marriage, he’s never once pitied her.
He says that she’s a very important person to him, and he did everything because he likes her (in this case the nuance is a little vague, more like “I like you as a person”). He says that he was concerned and got angry all on his own, “Just like a long time ago.”
She doesn’t understand what he’s saying, so he hands her his old keepsake box to open when she gets home. Eeee! She asks what it is, and he calls it: “Proof that I don’t pity you. Proof that you’re a cool woman. My precious memories.”
He says that he was planning to keep this to himself forever, but she’s being so stubborn about this that he’s giving it to her. He puts it in her hand and says, “Remember the you from this time as you live from now on.” He tells her to come ask him later why she became this person to him, and promises to answer.
Meanwhile, Woo-chul stares at his divorce contract and comes to a decision… and rips it up. Oh nooooes.
Nora takes the box to a nearby park bench and opens it up. She smiles to see a mixtape with all her old favorite songs, and takes out the little card inside. We hear Little Hyun-seok’s voice reading the card aloud: “At first I was happy just to be your friend, but now I’m not. Ha Nora!!! I like you.”
And then, she hears present-day Hyun-seok’s voice saying, “Ha Nora, I like you,” and looks up.
COMMENTS
Oh, what a relief. I was so scared that the angst would continue, but we were given just the right amount that I could handle. I don’t know what I would’ve done if we didn’t end on a high note, and if their misunderstanding had lasted a whole week. Probably write some angry letters. Or go on strike. But because it was cleared up in the course of the episode, I can step back and appreciate what it does to propel our characters forward in some crucial ways. It’s always hard to see Nora struggle with her already shaky self-esteem, especially when she thinks that Hyun-seok is pitying her for being played by Woo-chul. And it’s complicated by the fact that she’s developing feelings for him, which only increases her embarrassment. They’re both stuck in a loop where neither thinks they mean anything much to the other, when in fact the reverse is true. I was so frustrated when he fiiiiiiinally learned about the divorce in the worst way possible—from Yi-jin’s warped perspective where Nora is still in love with her cheating husband and clinging to him. That is so not the way I wanted him to find out.
But then hearing the truth straight from Woo-chul made up for it in the end, because there’s no misunderstanding the situation when Woo-chul is the one freaking out over Nora asking for the divorce. For Hyun-seok, that matters far more than the fact that they’ve been living as a divorced couple in practice, because he thinks Nora’s been in love with Woo-chul all this time. It’s Nora’s feelings that he cares about, and it’s a huge relief that he finds out the one major assumption that he’s had wrong all this time—that Nora wants to stay in her marriage.
It was even a relief to have Yi-jin learn the same thing, because I feel bad for her a lot of the time. It felt freeing to have everyone address the truth so plainly, after all the secrets and sneaking around. There’s also a huge satisfaction in seeing Nora so calm and poised and above it all when she confronts Yi-jin and tells her to keep Woo-chul, like he’s leftovers that she’s done with now. I was so mad at him for getting her fired from her job over his own stupid pride, and now that he seems like he’s going to fight the divorce, I hope that Nora is done cutting him any slack whatsoever.
The confession is enough to keep me on a happy cloud until next week, because now Nora and Hyun-seok can stop with the assumptions and the doublespeak, and maybe even say what they feel. In typical Hyun-seok fashion, he doesn’t even confess wanting something in return—he just wants her to know how awesome she is and that he’s thought of her that way for twenty years, all to make her believe that she’s not some charity case. I love that he gives her the box and says it’s for her to remember who she was back then, in the hopes that she’ll live the rest of her life as the original sparkling Ha Nora. It’s just the kind of confession that I expect from Hyun-seok, because he loves her in that perfectly perfect way where he’s just a fan of who she is and roots for her to be happy. Sure, Oppa’s a little grumpy, but he cooks, he cleans, and he lets her win at Go Stop when she’s having a bad day! I think he deserves to hear about those heart palpitations now, don’tcha think?
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1 Denile
October 3, 2015 at 8:19 PM
Someone please hug me...I could not control the feels from this episode....
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knookey
October 3, 2015 at 8:23 PM
I'll hug you from here! *internethug*
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Amie
October 4, 2015 at 4:12 AM
That confession at the end just put a smile on face.
That, for me, was really sweet, in a feel good kind of way.??????????????????
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Arhazivory
October 3, 2015 at 8:33 PM
*group hug*
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fgb4877
October 3, 2015 at 9:05 PM
Can I join in?. :)
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riya
October 4, 2015 at 1:31 AM
I'm joining you guys!!!
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Ameeramandy
October 4, 2015 at 2:44 PM
Count me in !!!^^
KDaddict?JCW
October 3, 2015 at 8:51 PM
Oh yes. Big group hug is in order. Sob sob tears of happiness.
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susan
October 3, 2015 at 10:30 PM
LOLZ :-) It was a very good episode!
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jmessl
October 3, 2015 at 9:13 PM
haha that's so cute, I feel the same!
Please let me join in on your virtual hug =)
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dkaoru
October 3, 2015 at 9:31 PM
can I join the group hug?
This drama is so awesome. I just squeeeeee watching this episode
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growingbeautifully
October 3, 2015 at 10:07 PM
*Hug! Hug! Hug!*
:D
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KDaddict?JCW
October 3, 2015 at 10:11 PM
HUG you back!
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Susan
October 3, 2015 at 10:54 PM
Same here HUG * .I was so happy after seeing the episode i was just smiling the rest of the day & my brother's like "why are you smiling like an idiot"
Sooo satisfying worth the wait ..........
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anigeek89
October 3, 2015 at 11:57 PM
Me 2!!!! I woke up the next morning and watched the raw version and then the subbed version later in the day. This episode made me so happy :)
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yukie
October 4, 2015 at 12:10 AM
*grouphugssssssssssss
OMG!!!!! The confession ~~~~~~~
Can't stop squeeeinggg ~~~~~
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Bongsookie
October 4, 2015 at 2:34 AM
Let me join too! ~huuuugggsssss~ ?
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Luvkdrama
October 4, 2015 at 6:55 AM
Million hugs for all who support n luv this show ❤️❤️❤️??????
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KDaddict
October 4, 2015 at 7:08 PM
In hundreds of comments ep after ep, every one sings praises of love for this show in one unanimous voice. How amazing is that? How satisfying an experience!
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doubt_no_more
October 4, 2015 at 7:03 AM
Im joining you guys too *group hugs*
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pancchi
October 4, 2015 at 7:41 AM
M late. Can we have a group hug Again?
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miri
October 4, 2015 at 7:53 AM
Hug - one of those group hugs where we jump around in a circle because who can stay still after that episode. HUG JUMP JUMP HUG
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plumwine
October 4, 2015 at 8:55 AM
Definitely a hug worthy episode! Thanks! It is amazing that an episode can make us smile like this and want to share the joy. *squeeze*
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salt n' pepper
October 4, 2015 at 4:33 PM
Group hug for everyone!!
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crazyahjummafan
October 4, 2015 at 5:24 PM
Extremely busy. Have only a few minutes, but must join in the group hug. HUGS everyone.
This drama is the panacea for the heart ache that TTWWNIL gave me. I needed a huge hug to get over THAT!
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⭐ Sera The Ms Temper ⭐
October 4, 2015 at 8:33 PM
This group hugs will surely the cutest thing ever happened here. :D
Count me in!
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Jig
October 5, 2015 at 12:15 AM
Let me squeeze in on the hug!
I only have time to read the recaps. I can't wait til school is over and I can start watching this!
Nice to see some old Healer friends here as well! We have good taste ;)
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1608
October 5, 2015 at 11:10 AM
(づ ̄ ³ ̄)づ me want hug too
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Chandler
October 5, 2015 at 12:44 PM
Aw, this is just the most adorable thing, you guys.
I think we should have a group hug for every episode from now on :) Because things are only going to get better and better from here.
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mjfan
October 6, 2015 at 7:12 AM
Hug! Hug! Hug !
:D :D
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2 knookey
October 3, 2015 at 8:22 PM
Augh!!! Thank you for the recap (that I have yet to read) GF!!!
But seriously this episode is getting me all in the feels. I'm fangirling so hard right now!
I'm so happy he gave her the box! I though she'd see it when she was in his room, but I'm glad he took the initiative. I can barely wait for next week! Where's the fast forward button on my life?!
And oh my god... that scene where he just went right up in her face... I would've grabbed his face and just... *drifts off into daydreamland*
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KDaddict?JCW
October 3, 2015 at 8:53 PM
Yes, he has given her the box.
The squee worthy moments in this ep are many.
The Very best one for me is when Nora tells WC that he has Narcissistic personality disorder, for to makes everything about himself and justifies that view by spreading lies! Ha ha. ROFL!
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knookey
October 3, 2015 at 8:59 PM
I know! She's finally speaking out and showing him who he really is
I hope she trips him up next episode
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Bunny123
October 3, 2015 at 9:23 PM
That convo was so amazing. It's so great to see Nora, who used to keep everything bottled up inside, actually saying things how it is!
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dkaoru
October 3, 2015 at 9:33 PM
It's also the way she said it, like she learned about it in class, in a psychology class! bwhahahahaha
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KDaddict?JCW
October 3, 2015 at 9:49 PM
He was always criticising her for being uneducated. She puts her education to practical application right away!!! Good for her. High five!
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growingbeautifully
October 3, 2015 at 10:09 PM
*High 5!!!* @ KDaddict?JCW
KDaddict?JCW
October 3, 2015 at 10:13 PM
@GB dear,
How about that? Another show we can all go nuts over!
Happy dance a la Snoopy.
growingbeautifully
October 3, 2015 at 11:10 PM
@KDaddict?JCW
Yes, and I'm giddy with joy! :)
NahlaJW
October 4, 2015 at 12:52 PM
I was so satisfied that I started clapping my hands during that scene xD
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kw02
October 4, 2015 at 3:32 AM
+1
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Icatian13
October 4, 2015 at 8:04 PM
+2
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mary of bethany
October 4, 2015 at 9:31 AM
talking about hugs here.... while i join in the group hugs,
i want OTP to hug hug hug ... and more than hugs ..........
i can imagining all kinds of scenarios .... right after the last scene... mmm...
Hyun Suk, you can do better than hugs right?
Writer, step on the it, and race, only 4 more ep.>>. they are "adults" right... don't just give us some hugs.. only.. i want more than that....
i certain want a long long long hugs.. then.>.
oh... i shall sleep with these imaginations ... for 5 more nights. oh goosh... why don't they just go back to his apartment.. only 4 ep left! hahhahaha... who is with me here?
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jozie
October 4, 2015 at 3:52 PM
That was my favorite moment too! Love it. She just tagged him and moved on.
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dramalover95
October 4, 2015 at 12:15 AM
Yeah i am very glad that the show's direction has swung to her discovering her feelings for HS. I was worried that this show will have an open ending last week. HS giving her the box is unexpected too, i like this plot twist. I thought he is going to keep it forever lol.
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mary of bethany
October 4, 2015 at 8:18 AM
actually since last week, when we were talking about the Time Capsule here over ep 11, i suddenly feel that the Treasure box may well be a channel of revelation, both Nora and her Hyun Suk need a channel or tool whereby they were reminded, beyond doubts of how they felt about each other, and also to finally be assured of how the other OTP felt once about themselves.
i remembered in "i can hear u", Hye-sung in tears as she read Su-ha’s journal and finally shakened into realisation of how much she meant to su-ha.... same here, Nora need a sincere object from the past, something that Hyun suk written in all his naked raw honesty, in full passion, to finally shattered Nora and knocked her out of all her doubts of denial of her worthiness in Hyun Suk. i had always believed in the "magical power" of such Memory Treasure Box, which let a OTP peep right into the core of that vocano suppressed within her OTP.
now, Hyun Suk's turn to see his Buried Time Capsule... hope Writer will bring it on at the right timing, to let Hyun Suk know his 20 years passion is not wasted.
Loved dearly the way Hyun Suk told Nora, that he actually intended to hide the content in Treasure Box forever in secret. which means, he may let his affection buried and remain "Celibacy" forever. not even allow Nora to know of his feelings and feel bad about let him down. where to find such greatness and silent sacrifice in modern men living around us.
to choose between the hunk youngpal (Joo Won) and Hyun Suk, i will choose a very sincere REAL (not without blemish) Hyun Suk without a wink.
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shin rae mi
October 4, 2015 at 4:28 PM
I wonder what No Ra wrote in their time capsule...she erased the last part, right? then she wrote something...
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mary of bethany
October 4, 2015 at 5:16 PM
i've been making myself crazy imagining all possibilities of what she wrote.... because of what she wrote implied that she has already loved him before met that WC, means before her assumed falling in love with WC, her first love should be Oppa Dimple Smiley Eyes. so whatever Oppa read will redeem him finally.
hope she wrote something like.... in the likes of " your loving Nora".
knookey
October 5, 2015 at 1:24 AM
My theory is that she crossed off her name to change it to HIS last name. I dno... I hope I'm right. I'm sure she crushed on him back in high school
shin rae mi
October 5, 2015 at 2:42 AM
I also think Hyun Suk is No Ra's first love/crush. She likes him first before she fell in love with WC..
mary of bethany
October 5, 2015 at 5:59 PM
next ep should unravel the truth of the Time Capsule:
u r right, she may write: Cha Nora... something like that.
crazyahjummafan
October 4, 2015 at 5:26 PM
All I can say is, THANK GOODNESS HE DID NOT BURN the contents in the box!!!
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3 brian
October 3, 2015 at 8:28 PM
Typing a quick comment before reading the recap -- I love love loved this episode. Amazing how good a show can be even if the plot doesn't hurry along. The only thing I didn't like was when Kim Ye Jin told Cha Hyun Suk about Ha No Ra's virtual divorce -- I realize that it was definitely useful or moving the plot forward and getting Cha Hyun Suk off his butt but I didn't like her attitude as if she was a saint in the whole affair that wasn't an affair (yeah right). Otherwise I thoroughly enjoyed all of the tender moments and revelations in this episode!
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cmak
October 3, 2015 at 8:32 PM
Yes! Yijin and Woochul's affair was definitely the catalyst for Woochul's request for a divorce so I really didn't like how she framed it as starting a relationship with a man whose relationship was already over.
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emi
October 3, 2015 at 9:13 PM
Aha, but as we've seen, aside from being an utter narcissist, Woochul just might be a pathological liar. There have been multiple instance in which he's either lied to Ye jin or lied by omission. It wouldn't surprise me if he lied to her about his marital status when they first started seeing each other.
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Chandler
October 3, 2015 at 10:53 PM
I actually agree with this. He probably implied from the beginning that he and Nora were as good as divorced because, in his mind, they were.
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kw02
October 4, 2015 at 3:40 AM
I think Woo Chul is a typical cheater. Lying for self preservation and his own convenience is just natural for him.
plumwine
October 4, 2015 at 9:03 AM
I totally agree. As we saw this week Yi Jin is slowly discovering what type a person he really is: secretive, scheming, lying, manipulative ... Fill in blank.
While I don't think she is entirely in the right, I am beginning to feel a bit sorry for her. However, propably not for long since she will probably drop him like a dirty tissue.
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Arhazivory
October 3, 2015 at 8:34 PM
That's how she sees it. She and Woo Chul were in their own little world and also that's the pill he fed her. That they're divorced so in her head, she's innocent. Yi Jin really needs to get a clue...
"You can have him."
lol....that was a good clue.
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maeichin
October 3, 2015 at 8:51 PM
Yessss she said it so matter of factly and it was so obviously she thinks she didn't do anything wrong. It annoyed me really badly.
Fact is, the "affair" started in 2011, 2 years before the divorce.
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KDaddict?JCW
October 3, 2015 at 9:05 PM
Me and my GFs have been approached by married men many times over. They all have very similar, unimaginative stories to tell about their wives and their married lives. It was good that we had roommates and friends to share such stories w and found the similarities astounding and amusing.
Poor YJ seems to be living in isolation in an ivory tower. She was definitely in the wrong, but then I can find of see her buying into his lies.
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Caro
October 3, 2015 at 9:41 PM
Yes, married men come up with ways to explain away their cheating and even making themselves look like the victims. A man often tells his mistress that he and his wife haven't been intimate in years, that they're de facto separated. That the wife is a harpy who won't let him leave. He wants to leave but she begged him not to, for their children. The wife makes life impossible for him and the poor guy needs an escape.
In the end the make the wife out to be the bad guy and since the mistress a) only has one side of the story and b) needs to believe she isn't helping destroy a marriage, she needs to believe him.
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dkaoru
October 3, 2015 at 9:36 PM
but this is how she sees herself, that she is innocent and that she's not having an affair because he was already divorced. I think she believes all the nonsense woochul tells her about how his wife is too dumb to have conversation with etc.
I really want her to see the reality and then I'm curious whether she continues to want to be with Woo Chul.
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super
October 4, 2015 at 7:42 AM
plus i'm sure she'll also find out soon that he was with her to be the 'university chairman/prez's son-in-law' and the career advancement it means. i noted that WC was pondering on the 'better' univ position his friend mentioned.. would happily dump YJ if needed.
he is presented as someone who is good at work, but very ambitious too, and image conscious.
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sahu
October 4, 2015 at 8:17 AM
Loving this drama! I think (or at least hope) YJ will come to her senses. Throughout the drama, she is portrayed as a "smart" woman who can figure things out. Hopefully, she will take what she's learn and figure that her future with Woo Chul will be no different from No Ra's experience with him.
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crazyahjummafan
October 4, 2015 at 10:02 PM
Somehow I find her answer that she was not having a relationship because WC is divorced a lousy excuse. Legally, they are still married and she was told that the reason why WC is not yet divorced is because Nora is still hanging on. Hence, it's not mutual, (at least at that point of time). How can she claim the she did not wreck a marriage? As long as one party wants to hold on, there's still a marriage, and if you have a relationship with the other, YOU ARE A MARRIAGE WRECKER!!!
Moreover, everything that she was told, was from WC's point of view. A man tells you that his wife is naggy, he can't communicate with her, she's a witch, etc...and you simply believe him? When you have not seen the wife, spoken to her, when you do not know her to confirm what he says? Men will tell you all sorts of things to get into your pants, and as a lecturer teaching students about relationships, you are not aware of this?
I for one, do not like her. I find her hypocritical and self-righteous. Woo Chul is her match and I'm not sorry for her if she finds out that he was lying to her. After all, how can you trust a married man who is cheating on his wife? he has no integrity and faithfulness to his wife, why would he be anything more to you? She never bothered to find out more about Nora, she simply accepted everything he said. This is more than just gullible and naive, it's plain stupid.
I personally think that Yijin is as self-centred as WC. Never once did she question how Nora would feel, how Min Soo would feel. It was all about her too. And how WC needed to rise up high enough so that he could impress her father. Aren't they 2 grown ups with enough resources of their own to live their own lives? So what if Daddy dearest doesn't like him? If SHE likes him enough, that's all that matters. Is she afraid of losing her inheritance? Instead she seems very concerned about his status and what it would mean to her rather than his happiness.
But of course, as they are woven from the same cloth, WC too wanted nothing more than be the chairman's son in law. Two peas in a pods!
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4 Threedott
October 3, 2015 at 8:29 PM
This show is really good. Love it !
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5 cmak
October 3, 2015 at 8:29 PM
I just about swooned and died and came back to life when Hyunsuk was cooking and those dimples came out. I texted my boyfriend saying the main lead in the drama I'm watching is so amazing and he asked me who I would choose--I just said I would never choose a fictional character over him. If Hyunsuk were real? ... LOL. But seriously in what drama do you find the male lead so caring and uncompromising in support of his love? The way he treats Nora is nothing short of ah.may.zing.
And yes, girlfriday, to everything about the divorce reveal! I was actually happy Yijin could hear the truth from Nora because while she isn't in the right, it's not fair that Woochul is stringing her along when the end game is (was?) for them to be married.
My heart hurt so much when Yijin broke the divorce news like that to Hyunsuk. It's not misunderstanding in the typical drama sense, but I just wish Nora and Hyunsuk could have talked openly at that point about the real divorce situation and get it all out in the open. Imagine my surprise when I found myself thanking Woochul for being so boneheaded and telling Hyunsuk the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth.
Perfect amount of angst in another perfect episode. So sad there's only two weeks left :'(
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Chandler
October 3, 2015 at 8:39 PM
"I just said I would never choose a fictional character over him. If Hyunsuk were real? … LOL"
-PFFFFT. Smooth cover.
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KDaddict?JCW
October 3, 2015 at 8:57 PM
WC has been feeding YJ a lot of crap over the years. And that 'smart' woman believes him! So it is eye-opening for her to hear it straight from the horses mouth that No, KWC isn't still married cos Han Nora is obsessed w him n can't let go. Au contras, it is he who is cooking up non-existent reasons to postpone the divorce.
How does she like Them apples? ?
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fgb4877
October 4, 2015 at 2:01 PM
Am I a bad person for hoping to get both No-Ra and Yi-Jin in the same page and get rid of EWWW-Chul?.
I don't think EWWW-Chul to be a bad person, but one that is delusional, that believes his own lies and therefore is very destructive.
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mary of bethany
October 4, 2015 at 7:26 PM
“Whoso diggeth a pit shall fall therein: and he that rolleth a stone, it will return upon him.” (Proverbs 26:27)
remember what Lee Hyun (in IRY) said to that father who caused his own son to be killed by his own malicious plotting for revenge.
i always believed, God is real. when an evil one schemed and heaped wrath upon by his accumulated sins. One way he fall trapped himself by his own doing. WC trapped himself by leaking out the lost piece of jigsaw puzzle, that his mistress has mistakenly pieced into place for HyunSuk (save One last piece). WC himself make that last revelation that can propel HyunSuk towards what WC dread most. for once, i am thankful for something WC did, revealing to HS the inner feels of Nora, which is something Nora herself will never reveal while lost in her doubts and sudden shakened confidence that the bliss she enjoyed thus far is "fake".
Evil Ones sometimes killed themselves by the stone they swing towards the victim.
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6 redd
October 3, 2015 at 8:31 PM
The best scene is when No Ra confront Yi Jin and Woo Chul. Bravo! LOVE IT!
"You can have him". Muahahahahahahaha
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Arhazivory
October 3, 2015 at 8:38 PM
"You can have him."
How can one line be so absolutely golden?
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Susan
October 3, 2015 at 11:21 PM
RIGHT AT HER FACE..(SO CALM AND COMPOSED)
BOTH OF THEM DID GREAT JOB AT ACTING
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kw02
October 4, 2015 at 5:19 AM
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Emmy
October 4, 2015 at 5:20 AM
I love it. Awesome line. Like she was getting rid of garbage or unwanted shoes!
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7 rhea
October 3, 2015 at 8:33 PM
There’s a reason why Choi Ji Woo was crowned queen of tears a decade ago. I realize every time she cries, my floodgates open up as well... there’s something about her that just evoke so much emotions, and maybe her eyes are really good at conveying her feelings...
I’m really loving this show, and the feels it gives me. The writing is spot on, the acting from the veterans are holding up and its so heart tugging, you remember the dialogues long after you finish each episode.
I’m so glad HS reaffirms her and reminds her that she’s someone worthy to be loved. She has lived her way being neglected for so long that she’s definitely forgotten how sparkling she once was that she leaves a indelible mark on those who knew her.
The way LSY looks at her was also with so much poignancy. How can be be so childish yet so mature at the same time, definitely has some of the best lines as well. From his perspective on “well-dying” to giving Nora the box and explaining how precious she is to him, this show just keeps getting better.
I think rather than sending gifts and flowers and food trucks to the actors, I think a big basket of flowers should be sent to the writers instead. They have given us a most beautiful story and if it continues the way its going now, this is possibly be one of the treasured series in kdramas whereby you will look back upon it with fondness and revisit on a day you’re feeling down.
Congrats to the team for the stellar ratings and I’m looking forward to a satisfying and beautiful 4 eps to come...
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KDaddict?JCW
October 3, 2015 at 9:01 PM
I agree w you about CJW:
Not very many actors or actresses make it to and remain at the pinnacle of the A list for 15 years. She is there for good reasons.
One of them is the way she cries quiet tears of heartbreak with elegance and dignity. I hate melodramas but love her thoroughly. Mind you, 15 years ago, melodrama was all there was in KD production.
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mary of bethany
October 4, 2015 at 9:18 AM
KDaddict?JCW , and rhea, and all.
re: CJW. many actresses has reached that pinnacle, with some awesome drama, and stayed for a while, either its a drama or that character "minister" or touched... but those are fleeting moments. Some pretty ones can act too, but after one dramas, they just never rose up any more...
KD land are cruel grounds... to many pretty and young and talented "things".
i loved Park Min Young in little ways, but i loved Chae Young shin much more, whether PMY can repeat that Youngshin glory, i don't know.
but CJW is somwhat unique, she is more than those role in WS, or Beautiful Days... she has her downs when she chose so-so works ( i should not mention which ones, in case there are fans of those dramas)...
but because her downs moments created depths in her, trials and low periods mold characters.
you remember just before CJW rules and started the KD waves all over Asia, Taiwan's Qiong Yao weepy dramas were the queens of Asia...
now, nothing in those can hold a candle to what CJW did... at least to me. not just her wailing loud that moves us, its that suppressed intention, the hidden pain, the hopeless waiting, in your own words "quiet Tears of heartbreak" that shaken us, ...
15 years and unshaken by load of beauty like those Yoonas.. is not without reasons.
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KDaddict
October 4, 2015 at 7:20 PM
@maryof bethany,
TQ for writing this comment. Love u for it!
So happy that CJW is finding a 2nd high in her career, with a whole new generation of KD viewers are finding Her!
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nomad
October 3, 2015 at 9:13 PM
I love love love the writers too!!!
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dkaoru
October 3, 2015 at 9:40 PM
yes! Cheers to the Writers! Amazing lines! Bravooo
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KDaddict?JCW
October 3, 2015 at 9:48 PM
Will definitely be watching out for future works from the same writers.
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Susan
October 3, 2015 at 11:42 PM
This my first drama of hers believe it or not (came here for LSY) her acting i though this why she is called the goddess.
She and LSY are so many years apart yet she gives a feeling of her being younger than him (her skin is sooo good )
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KDaddict
October 4, 2015 at 7:22 PM
They are 4-5 years apart. He is 34. She is 38. They look so good together it hurts!
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Icatian13
October 4, 2015 at 8:41 PM
I think LSY is 34 and CJW is 40. 6 years is a long gap but for some reason, they are still believable...Ji Woo seems good at creating chemistry to any actors she is paired with.....I wasn't too crazy about her earlier works but for some reason I was drawn to her character in "Temptation". I can't believe that she could do it....that cold gaze...hehe...her acting in that drama was amazing to me....that bad YooSeYoung made me addicted to everything CHoi Ji WOo...hee...
mary of bethany
October 5, 2015 at 6:07 PM
amen to that. JiWoo has this chemistry, place her beside any younger hunk she can still oozes a very natural real aura, blending with any co-actor, she made any noonas romance seems possible and completely natural. makes it hard to choose which co-star fix her better.... because in every show, she makes it so real that, its not Choi Ji Woo who romance that star, but she make you think tis the Character she portrayed, the very Noona she acted as, that romancing the younger co-star. Even in Temptation, you don't feel that she is the "mistress", you don't feel the "YJ feels".
(huh.. the only one i never watch finish is the weird House-keeper thingy?)
she is the "Queen of Tears", huh, she can be crowned "Queen of Noonas Romance".
mary of bethany
October 4, 2015 at 8:50 AM
CJW, too has her moments of ups and downs.... those who were once touched by her, 15 years ago, will never be that easily forgotten her.... just like HyunSuk treasure box... those items were his precious memories, either sad or happy were part of what "maketh him". so those moments CJW make us weep buckets weeks after weeks without fail, wept till our chest sucked in, and cried till whole night headache... yet the following weeks we turn up at the same timing to watch Winter S, or Beautiful Days... those were days when we believed dying while loving someone is worth it, or unrequited love is beautiful, or "dying well" even if gotten Cancer is awesome... that will makes our youth....
CJW has walked with us thru those golden days, and nothing in these modern actress like Girl Generation Yoona or Uee or Park Shin Hye... can replace...
any other actresses can cry buckets, can make us cry bucket... maybe even Park Shin Hye's tears can make shaken some fans like the way CJW did to us.... i believe different Generation girls went thru diff experiences and trials...
CJW's Tears has already becometh like a part of her, so natural, that she just don't need to wail loud and wet, she jsut need to turn her eyes redened, and just a drop rolled down her cheek, like when she ate her Spicy rice cake that moment,... you felt time stop... you ask yourself, i missed something precious.. you rewind again and again... you read behind those tears, her feeling rekindled for Hyun Suk. you felt her gratitute of wave soaked you over .
every actress can cry and touched you at that moment... but not many can make you remember that moment many weeks or months later.
CJW, is in my Treasure Box.
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jillian
October 4, 2015 at 9:23 AM
I agree. I love CJW!
I love her in the kdramas you mentioned. My favorite will be Beautiful Days since thats the first drama i saw her in and started to be a fan. She has a way of pulling you in and wanting to protect her.
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⭐ Sera The Ms Temper ⭐
October 4, 2015 at 6:52 PM
Honestly, I came here because of LSY. I have been fangirling over LSY from Angel Eyes.
This is the first time that i like CJW as an actress, even i have known her from Winter Sonata's days. I have watched her few dramas, but nothing made me interested in her. Maybe i am the only one or in minority who doesn't like her and felt that she is somehow exaggerated, @_@ I am sorry to all her fans, i am not hating her, just i don't find she is appealing to me. I am excited for her role in Temptation, but I don't like that drama at all.
But after watching her here, i somehow agreed that she cry so naturally in which not many actress can do the same. i would say Song Hye Kyo maybe similar. For younger generation, I still cant figure who can cry naturally and beautifully like she did. For her melodramas in her golden days like Stairway to Heaven, Winter Sonata, she deserved to be crowned as a Queen of Melodrama and still deserve it until now.
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mary of bethany
October 5, 2015 at 6:16 PM
Jilian, Sera,
yes, when you watched her eyes reddened, welled up but still in control, while taking the first bite of the spicy rice cake.. then u hold your breath and wait for that crystal drop that roll down. good enough, it roll down slowly... and thank God, the Director did not show her wailing, sobbing like flood gate opened,.... you just have Dong chul telling Hyun Suk in the phone, and you imagined she went back to that Winter Sonata, Stairways era, when she weep till all your vitals contract sucked deep into your chest....
as much as you long for her kiss that ascend you cloud nine, somewhat i also long for her "forgotten tears" that vapourized my strength away.
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8 MikoD
October 3, 2015 at 8:35 PM
I definitely sat in a daze after this episode; so much happened here. Woo-chul is still an idiot, funny one minute and annoying the next. Him tearing up the divorce papers annoys me so much, he's like a little kid. Throwing tantrums because he doesn't like what's happening. Please grow up, my dude. He and Yi-jin suffer from a narcissistic disorder, that's why they were so into each other. Yi-jin might be forever alone at this point, with Woo-chul playing "it's my toy, you can't have it" with Nora's life. Ugh.
Hyun-seok is just so... swoon-worthy. Cheating in go-stop for his dongsaeng, declaring himself as her Oppa, loving her unconditionally, confessing in such an awesome way. Gosh, and those dimples. I agree, what scales were on Nora's eyes not to notice those beautiful dimples?
Four episodes remaining. I sincerely hope for some cuteness between Nora and Hyunseok. Her flailing after their sleepover was beyond cute, I'm ready for more...
Sang-ye is the accidental matchmaker, poor girl. Haha, no matter what she does, she manages to bring our OTP together. I love it, yet feel bad for her feelings.
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KDaddict?JCW
October 3, 2015 at 9:07 PM
After WC left YJ's apt in the previous ep, he asked himself in the basement parking lot: What am I doing (i.e. running away from YJ and having an attachment to Nora)?
That is a very good Qn. Just what the F... is he doing, tearing up that contract to legally dissolve their marriage?
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PeepsLeAwesomePotato
October 3, 2015 at 10:33 PM
Well it doesn't work like that does it? Just because you tear your half of a contract doesn't make it invalid. The other party still has the other half to prove its contents. And your signature is there too. I'm picturing lots of angry businessmen otherwise.
WooChul is lookibg like a desperate fool right about now (if he didn't earlier).
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Appelsin
October 4, 2015 at 1:42 PM
Well, they have been saying that the contract is notarized, so the Notary has a copy for sure :D
I hope they go ahead with the divorce next week, otherwise I will suffer a heart attack due to the frustration. I cannot wait to see NoRa single again...and free to get closer to Mr.Grumpy. :)
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mary of bethany
October 4, 2015 at 9:23 AM
yes, when he tore that contract, i wanted to recall Min from I Remember Me, to come and finish him. ... then i think again... what important now, is finally Nora know her own hearts, contract or no contract, she knows there are no turning back, no amount of sweet talking, even if WC used MinSoo, she will not be taken in again... come to think again, she is not really "stupid" intellectually, as what WC really think, the way she argued thru calmly, using WC very own cruel words he spoken himself, and reasoned what she learned from tutorials.. and by studying night classes and secretly burn mid night oil, can pass the entrance exam... is not small deal.
she is in fact smart in her ways, just suppress and self denial trapped her into thinking she is stupid, so as long as she has release the "eagle" in herself, and soar... she can find ways to settle her divorce.
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9 Chandler
October 3, 2015 at 8:36 PM
I was expecting his eventual confession to be somewhat like his outburst in episode 6...
...but I am so much happier with how he did it! I mean, that was just so freakin' perfect. Ahhhh. I don't even know what to do with myself.
I'm loving that, even though he's had his childish moments, Hyun-seok always thinks so deeply about Nora's feelings with each and every revelation he gets about her. Even though he's been terribly misguided about a lot of things along the way, he has this ability to really think about how she's feeling for whatever situation he thinks she's in. He's had some moments when he's opted to protect his own feelings and cut her off, but when he puts her first, he REALLY puts her first. And I just love him for that.
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Miranda
October 3, 2015 at 11:48 PM
I was completely convinced that Nora's misunderstanding would take the show through its last episodes, and was so disappointed - but then Hyun Seok didn't let me down! Yay Box of Secrets!
Part of why Hyun Seok and Woo Chul have been at odds this entire time is because they're polar opposites. Each assumes the other has at least some common sentiments, but they really don't; Woo Chul saw Nora as the woman he knocked up and then he had to manage her to live up to him, and Hyun Seok was faithful to everything Nora held dear for two decades in her absence.
It's so charming that Hyun Seok just absolutely loves Nora and wants her to be okay. Saying that she should be able to go to the rice cake shop just so she could remember how someone loved her completely? Woo Chul couldn't identify that emotion if someone spelled it out for him in skywriting.
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kw02
October 4, 2015 at 5:35 AM
Yes, Woo Chul would never understand what unconditional love is. I wish he were a maths or physics professor instead. We don't need a psychology professor who lack genuine concern for other human beings. He should stay away from counselling, especially those trauma victims he tried so hard to get involved in.
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10 Arhazivory
October 3, 2015 at 8:37 PM
This episode broke the 6% ratings bar and it was soooo well deserved.
The best thing about this episode, which had me pausing to replay...was not when CHa Hyun Seok confessed <3 Or when he found out the modified truth, or when he found out the real truth....
The best moment that will forever be remembered,
...is when Woo Chul fell from grace - literally.
LMAO. That shelf scene was so bloody hilarious. :D
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MikoD
October 3, 2015 at 8:42 PM
Haaaaaa, yes!
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mjfan
October 3, 2015 at 9:01 PM
yay for so much deserved ratings , keep it up show
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KDaddict?JCW
October 3, 2015 at 9:10 PM
That shelf scene:
He rushes to the convenience store cos he can't have his wife disgracing him by taking such a lowly job. Then he lunges at the store owner, only to pull a rack of shelves on himself. Ha ha ha. That's how ineffectual he is!! ROFL.
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nomad
October 3, 2015 at 9:16 PM
Kudos to Mr Woo Chul actor (too lazy to google) and the Director though...that crossing arm and pretending he actually wants to sit on the floor was just perfect!!
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KDaddict?JCW
October 3, 2015 at 9:19 PM
Yes yes yes. Crossing his arm sitting on the floor among the fallen snacks. LMAO.
Good of u to bring it up!
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mary of bethany
October 4, 2015 at 7:45 PM
i pitied him in I Remembered You, that psycho LJY. in fact i had a soft spot for him more than the Puppy eyed Min... then Mr Cheater Woo Chul destroyed it all, every single drop of forgiveness....
Choi Won Young indeed is very a fine actor, that he portrayed WC without reserved, knowing we will really "hate" him to our core. and also instil that sense of pity in us for Lee Joon Ho in I remember you, when we are supposed to hate him.
actually we despised Woo Chul of 20-A, more than Lee JH in IRY, even thought LJY killed so many, and WC kill nobody. agree?
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scully
October 3, 2015 at 9:39 PM
I just saw that it actually got 7%! YAS, show. SLAY.
I feel like I say this every week lol, but this was the best episode so far! I don't want this show to end waaaaah! I love it soooo much.
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⭐ Sera The Ms Temper ⭐
October 4, 2015 at 6:56 PM
Every epi is the best. haha
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kw02
October 4, 2015 at 5:45 AM
Yes =) And the store owner calls Woo Chul a loser husband. Serves him right.
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miri
October 4, 2015 at 7:59 AM
+1
The actor is doing a great job of making WC comedic, even though he is a complete loser jackass
Even then, I loved, LOVED when the shelf fell on him and he fell to the ground, and then he took the sitting pose. LMAO
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11 lolita
October 3, 2015 at 8:41 PM
When the husband ripped up the divorce papers 0_0
Are you that jealous that a guy likes your ex wife.
Jealous freak.
Hope Nora has a copy?
They can still go to court to get another copy anyway.
<3 Nora and her Oppa will have lovey-dovey moments in the next eps since he confessed~~
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Rowanmdm
October 3, 2015 at 9:11 PM
Yes, Nora has a copy. The papers she pulled out when they met for lunch and she asked for the divorce had half a stamp on the middle right edge of the page while the contract Woochul tore up had the other half of the stamp on the left side of the page.
Looking foward to the lovey-dovey moments :)
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Miranda
October 3, 2015 at 11:43 PM
I love love love that Nora straight-out diagnosed her husband with narcissistic personality disorder. It's one thing for her to realize he's a self-centered blowhard, but quite another for her to have analyzed him enough to actually think she's got a solid set of characteristics that fit him. And now everything he does, she'll see through that filter. Ha!
Hyun Seok is amazing. Every single thing that happens, he views as how it will impact Nora. Sure he's a childish lunatic stalker some of the time, but he never seems to be acting out of self-interest; in that way he's Woo Chul's opposite. It's also pretty amusing that Woo Chul immediately suspects Hyun Seok of trying to seduce Nora... because Woo Chul is so bloody self-centered that he just projects what he would do onto someone else!
I also love that Yi Jin and Nora had such a measured conversation. I'm starting to feel a little bad for Yi Jin - Hyun Seok's right, she's not a stupid woman, and she is absolutely going to catch onto Woo Chul now that the romance of a secret affair is over. Especially now that she knows he's been manipulating her for a while now.
This show is just so good. Never end, show! Never end!
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mary of bethany
October 4, 2015 at 7:51 PM
let's hope, YJ can become goodfriend with Nora one day, right after YJ see thru WC and dump him. mmmm.... YJ is nothing short of a very naive dreamy romantic Greenhouse Rose, not really a villain. i cannot imagine HS can swoon at some silly fainting belle over some art piece at an Art Exhib.., its take a WC to love such unrealistic things.
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mary of bethany
October 6, 2015 at 9:37 AM
"Every single thing that happens, he views as how it will impact Nora. " you said,
so right. This man understood the woman buried in his heart pretty well. Even though kept in his ‘celibacy state’ for a good 20 years mean, he doesn’t have any real relationship with any woman, yet he doesn’t need to be taught by anyone what does a woman really need. Basically, all he needs is putting himself exactly in her shoe, think selfless as what she must be feeling, and he knew immediately that all she needs is to have a solid good cry. A crystal drop slided down her cheek from her welling reddened eyes, that was enough to allow you to go back to 15 years ago, Winter Sonata era… Oppa didn’t rush down to stop her sobbing, didn’t even be present and act hero, by lending his shoulder for her to cry. Because he knew, its not about himself, what he can do… now what she need is herself to discover what she need to do, who she used to be, how much she was been loved…. Without collapsing that water barrage, she will be drown and suffocated by self-reproaches and ultimately snap under the weight of her pro-longed self-flagellation, mortification and love-less life.
Hyunsuk knew, don’t talk to her, let her cry, she needs to break down then can she be rebuild up and to rethink her life. Only when she let go of what doesn’t belong to her from the beginning then he can come in and lift her up. yet again, it’s still not for himself, that he did these. Even when he said “I should become someone she could depend on”, he still didn’t even think about benefitting him-SELF thru this, all he only thinks of is about her-SELF.
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alua
October 4, 2015 at 2:08 AM
I wonder how divorce works in Korea – i.e. if both spouses need to agree to divorce or if just one person can file for it.
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miri
October 4, 2015 at 8:00 AM
if both agree, then one day at court. otherwise, it takes forever.
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shin rae mi
October 4, 2015 at 4:37 PM
If both agree, it would be so easy. If the other won't, they need to go through a series of court trials. IT would really be exhausting for both parties.
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12 emi
October 3, 2015 at 8:45 PM
When she noticed his dimples. Game over. Total gonner.
Dear show, please keep it up.
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Onion
October 3, 2015 at 9:02 PM
Those dimples ❤️
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emi
October 3, 2015 at 9:25 PM
Where is the truck of doom when we need it? I want Woochul under its wheels, Nora to shrug, and then four more episodes of our couple smiling at each other. Maximum dimples, please.
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Bunny123
October 3, 2015 at 9:28 PM
Seriously! ??
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alua
October 4, 2015 at 2:10 AM
this line!
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alua
October 4, 2015 at 2:10 AM
"those giant craters of cuteness"
this one I meant (somehow it disappeared from my first comment)
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merry
October 4, 2015 at 3:42 AM
cracktastic line, too. thanks GF.
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⭐ Sera The Ms Temper ⭐
October 4, 2015 at 7:00 PM
I was like.. Nora-shi are u just realized about his dimples? lol. I have been day dreaming about him dimples from 1st epi :P
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13 insomniagirl
October 3, 2015 at 8:45 PM
I dread this drama being over. I just want to live in it forever.
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KDaddict?JCW
October 3, 2015 at 9:12 PM
IKR. I want it to be a daily, w 50 eps.
There is nothing else on right now or on the horizon that I'm interested in. ?
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mary of bethany
October 4, 2015 at 7:54 PM
yeah, i don't understand.
Yongpal s***s, and they added 2 to make it 18. while 20A is worthy of over 20, and still nobody say anything about adding 2 more ep. Yongpal that added 2 is a waste of time.
sorry to all Yongpal fans here. that sleeping princess take Crocodile queen just not my cup of tea.
TVN or KBS usually don't add ep easily, unlike SBS,
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Aigoooo
October 3, 2015 at 11:15 PM
I just want to be a student in that world and hang out with No Ra all day. lol
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14 head over heels
October 3, 2015 at 8:51 PM
Can I have him please?
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carty
October 3, 2015 at 9:09 PM
Get in line, pals ;)
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gaeinalee
October 3, 2015 at 9:43 PM
But, but, I've been keeping him company in those 19 years gap before NR reappear in his life.. should I get in line too? ^^
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KDaddict?JCW
October 3, 2015 at 10:16 PM
OK, your 19 years trumps Sang Ye's 4.
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KDaddict?JCW
October 3, 2015 at 9:14 PM
Sang Ye is 1st in line. She has been for 4 freaking years. See how much good it has done her.
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15 Banjak
October 3, 2015 at 8:52 PM
I read this recap w such a smile on my face... Can only imagine the dopey smile when I watch the episode!!
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Susan
October 3, 2015 at 11:49 PM
I don't completely understand Korean language still I repeated the raw twice and watched first 48sec like 48 times (when CHS put his arm on ha nora)
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16 Onion
October 3, 2015 at 8:54 PM
So cute! I loved Hyun Suk's confession. He just made up his mind and said it. I loved the simplicity and how direct he was. I guess I've been watching too much cheesy Korean drama confession! Loving the series.
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Susan
October 3, 2015 at 11:53 PM
He was so quick too
you don't always need a bunch of flowers, flashy ring and many candles burning .
simple honest heartfelt feelings are enough to make it memorable. (+1 for that adorable dimple smile)
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mary of bethany
October 4, 2015 at 9:38 AM
loved the way Writer wrote Hyun Suk. that he is very human, full of flaws.. very real. not like so perfect from Ep 1 to the last Ep, like those hunks in some dramas, very unrealistic.. you see his growth from ep 1 , then he learned some lesson and touched us, then he sulked again, ran away and hid from his own revelation of his own feels.. defending himself from hurts... just like every one of us...... because he was written NOT so perfect... we are even more identify with this Oppa. i rathered have someone real like him, with his ups and downs, and then finally he crossed that line after he made his confession and make up his mind, and he raised his own bar, and put on greatness. seeing his growth, is as gratifying as seeing Nora's growth.