The Time I’ve Loved You: Episode 9
by HeadsNo2
It’s a rough episode for Hana, what with all the decisions she has to make regarding what her heart truly wants. The only thing that’d make things easier for her is if she didn’t have to make any of those tough choices at all, almost as if those decisions could be made for her, maybe even against her better and more informed judgement. But that’d just make things worse, wouldn’t it? Does the part of being an addict where you admit you’re an addict matter if you’re not going to do anything about the addiction?
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EPISODE 9 RECAP
Before Hana goes storming back into the concert hall, she finds time to send Won a text saying she won’t be able to make it tonight. Won is understandably disappointed, since he set up a grand romantic gesture that Hana won’t get to see.
Seo-hoo assumes that she finally remembered if she’s back, but Hana throws the sheet music back at him and asks what she’s supposed to remember. “The memory of us being in love? The memory of you hurting me? Or the memory of you being completely fine after hurting me?”
He doesn’t seem to register her words as he mentions the bunny keychain he gave her that she loved so much. Hana tells him there’s no use remembering those things now, even though Seo-hoo says he’s never forgotten their moments of happiness when she was with him.
“I’ve forgotten all of them,” Hana replies defiantly. “I have no happy memories of being in love with you. In my memories, you’re just a wound that’s healed over. I don’t ever want to open that wound again.”
She turns to leave, but Seo-hoo grabs her wrist and says that they can just start over—no need to bring the past to the surface again. “This time I’ll make sure I don’t hurt you,” said no well-meaning guy ever. Hana pulls her hand out of his grasp and marches home, untouched by the weather currently plaguing Won.
The next day, Hana has to convince her boss that Seo-hoo will go through with their collaboration, and promises to take full responsibility if the project fails. She can’t get ahold of Won by phone, since he’s suffering in bed with a fever from the rain last night.
Despite the threats made by his Big Bad Agency to ruin his domestic activities within Korea should he not fall in line, Seo-hoo would rather focus on what’s important to him.
And for the moment that unfortunately means Hana, since he shows up to her office to see how the project’s going. To maintain his delusional fantasies, he looks at the slogan Hana’s created and comments that whoever created it must have a lot of affection for him. Whatever helps you sleep at night, dude.
Hana finds Won still in bed sick later that day, and after giving him medicine, she feeds him handmade porridge to help his recovery. It tastes terrible, and no amount of additives seems to spice it up any—instead he demands that she make a different kind of porridge for him.
Having no idea how he got so sick, Hana continues to tend to him through the night. Won wakes up the next morning to find her asleep on the floor by his bed, along with all the evidence that she played nurse while he was ill.
He eats her cold, awful-tasting porridge with gusto now, and imagines her chopping vegetables next to him with a smile as he cleans up the mess she made from cooking. That’s literally it.
While the Three Stooges at work gossip about whether So-eun will start pursuing Won again now that she’s heard he’s sick at home, Hana wakes up to find the kitchen clean and her porridge gone. Won lies that he threw it all out, and again when she asks what he wanted to give her on the rooftop yesterday.
“Nothing important,” he says dismissively. He urges her to go to work, since he’ll need another day to fully recover at home. She does, but finds bad news waiting: for no discernible reason, Director Byun has decided to take her off the collaboration project with Seo-hoo.
The media was expecting an exclusive interview with Seo-hoo at a charity soccer event (what this has to do with their collaboration and shoes, I don’t know), but it’s up to Hana to explain to them that she has no comment on the collaboration right now.
Cue Seo-hoo, who saves the day by giving the interview anyway, even if he’s doing it just to impress Hana/save her job. It works since she wants to keep on with the collaboration, and because he tells the media that there was a time when someone cared about what shoes he wore—because if his feet were comfortable, then his piano playing would be that much more comfortable.
It’s all schtick to sell shoes and to endear himself to Hana, since she was clearly that person who cared so much about his feet. In front of all the flashing cameras, Seo-hoo goes up to Hana for a high five after he scores a soccer goal with the kiddies. When she doesn’t, he just pats her hair instead.
After a quick scene with Hana’s parents coming home after their Jeju Island trip, we return to Hana as she finds Seo-hoo sitting alone after the game and sits nearby. Seo-hoo’s just happy she wants to be in his orbit, and suggest they eat together outside. Hana doesn’t look too happy, but she doesn’t protest either.
In what’s becoming pathological, he latches onto any little thing she says and construes it to mean something positive about their future, i.e. when she says that it’s the “first time” she’s seen him play soccer, he starts thinking of all the other “firsts” they could do together.
He asks her to go to a recital with him tomorrow, and muses that the albums he recorded while he was with her were still his best. “You’re the one who saved me this time too,” he adds. “You always seem to help me become my best. You’re touched, aren’t you?”
Hana gives a noncommittal reply before Seo-hoo continues that what’s more touching is that everything he’s saying is true. Okay, but what about all the time you had to say it? Still nothing on that?
Meanwhile, Won eats a proper meal made by Hana’s mom, since her parents know how terrible a cook Hana is and want their practically adopted son to actually get better and not worse.
Seo-hoo’s manager seems to be the only one concerned for him right now, since Seo-hoo even admits that once he gets an idea in his head, he obsesses over it (Hana) at the expense of everything else (his career). Someone important from his Big Bad Agency will be flying in soon, but Seo-hoo’s not afraid to face him.
Mi-hyang knows something’s up with Won besides being sick, and when he admits he didn’t get to give Hana that necklace, she finally breaks her silence on the matter.
He’s been acting weird ever since Seo-hoo came back, she says, and it’s clear as day to everyone but Hana that he looks at her as more than just a friend now. She thinks Won should do something about his feelings one way or the other, but by the way Won changes the subject, I guess that’s not going to happen anytime soon.
Won and Hana exercise the next morning by jogging in the park, but since she told Seo-hoo that she normally exercises in the morning, he shows up to crash their workout party. The shrug Won gives Hana when Seo-hoo’s not looking is just priceless.
While running together, Won confronts Seo-hoo over him buzzing around Hana all day every day, and whether he thinks that he’ll actually win her heart that way. “No,” Seo-hoo admits. “It’s that I’ll only survive if I see Hana all day long.”
He says he’s sincere whether Won believes him or not, and it’s because Hana trusts Won more than him right now that he’s putting in the extra effort. (He says it like he doesn’t understand why Hana wouldn’t trust him.)
When Seo-hoo says that he doesn’t want them to be enemies, Won tells him to save his breath—he won’t like him no matter what he does. The only way for them not to end up as enemies is if Seo-hoo doesn’t hurt Hana, Won adds.
Seo-hoo demands to know what Won’s relationship to Hana is, and gets frustrated when Won doesn’t answer since that’s so typical of him. Crazy McCrazerson: “I’m going to start over with Hana again, but you’re still coming between us.”
Won claims that whatever relationship they have doesn’t interest him, but Seo-hoo knows differently. “You should ask why I didn’t show up at the engagement ceremony three years ago. What you saw that day was me not showing up to the ceremony. What I saw was my fiancé crying in another man’s arms.” Yeah, because you didn’t show up.
“It seems you’re misunderstanding something,” Won replies. “The reason Hana doesn’t trust you… do you think it’s just because you didn’t show up that day? Cowardly bastard. From the beginning, you had no right to be by Hana’s side.”
Seo-hoo just warns Won that if he’s going to be Hana’s friend, he better make it clear and stay in that role, because he’s going to be more than just a friend to her. I have an idea—why don’t the two of you present these options to Hana and let her decide?
At work, So-eun invites Won to a recital, and tries steamrolling over Won before he has the opportunity to say “No” outright. But when she says that they can just go next time, Won shuts her down by saying that there won’t be a next time. So-eun invites Mi-hyang instead, and it turns out the recital is for Seo-hoo’s teacher.
Hana complains about being forced into the project with Seo-hoo only to be forced back out of it, while her friends think the frustration lies more with Seo-hoo than work. Hana still resolves to see this project through, since failure is not an option.
In a conversation with Mi-hyang later, Hana fake-complains about how Won bossed her around while he was sick. Mi-hyang finds that strange since Won doesn’t normally make a deal of being sick, and figures it’s just because he was with her.
Hana also mentions how he hides his feelings, like how he has that one grin that always means something’s really wrong. Mi-hyang takes the opportunity to ask whether Hana knows why Won decided against his overseas training, sounding a bit passive-aggressive in the process.
It’s news to Hana that Won isn’t going, and Mi-hyang lies that she doesn’t know why either. But of all the people who should know, she claims, Hana would be at the top of the list.
Hana tries to think about the reason while Won thinks about Seo-hoo and his cousin telling him that he needs to make his friendship with Hana clearer than he is now. But those were both people who wanted him to continue just being friends with her.
So when Hana calls him out to ask about why he didn’t take the overseas training opportunity, Won hearkens back to when he’d once told her he’d be able to hang out with her forever, though he’d meant it specifically as a friend then.
Now he says he won’t be able to do that, and reneges on the promise he made back then: “I’m saying I can’t be your friend forever.” He opens his hand in front of her so the necklace he got her dangles from his fingers. “I think my opportunity is right here. Sorry I can’t be on your side.” Huh?
If you’re hoping for some clarification on that vague statement from Hana, hope elsewhere—she just goes home with the necklace and broods.
Though Director Byun gave no reason for wanting Hana off the collaboration project, he’s hopping mad that she allowed Seo-hoo to give an interview… even though she explains that canceling the event the day-of would’ve looked bad for their company. (And would’ve made no sense.) Luckily for her, the public is responding positively to the article and their company.
Hana accompanies Seo-hoo to his teacher’s recital, where Mi-hyang and So-eun are also in attendance. Mi-hyang can’t shake the feeling of familiarity she gets watching him play, while So-eun spots Hana and Seo-hoo together with interest.
Afterward, Seo-hoo takes Hana to congratulate his teacher on his performance and introduces her as the girl he likes. His teacher, despite spewing vitriol at him one episode ago for not bending to the company’s will, acts friendly now and says Seo-hoo’s never introduced someone to him before… except he knew that he was engaged before and chastised him for wanting to go to his own engagement ceremony rather than play a recital.
When he asks her what she thought of the concert outside, Hana says that he hasn’t changed—especially when it comes to his habit of asking her questions he already knows the answer to. “Was I like that?” he wonders.
“You were always like that,” she answers.. “Even though it was obvious that you knew I was mad, you still asked why I was mad. After making me wait several hours, you would ask if I had waited long.” She tries to hail a cab, but Seo-hoo stops her on the basis that they still have more to do today.
He doesn’t actually need her to help pick out which photos of his will work as an advertisement, but he claims he does. Hana says she’d rather do it tomorrow until she suddenly changes her mind and agrees to help him today.
Rain starts falling, and Seo-hoo protects her with his hand until he can get her to his hotel. He places a hot cup of coffee in her hands after she says no, and sets to drying her off without asking for permission first. She just goes silent when he turns her toward him and stares at him as he keeps touching her hair, claiming that he’s taking care of her so she won’t get sick.
That’s when she finally stands and says she’ll pick the photos out later. She doesn’t even make it to the door before Seo-hoo grabs ahold of her and turns her toward him, inching one hand up to cup her face. Again she says nothing before eventually letting herself out.
Mi-hyang’s found a new idol obsession in Seo-hoo’s teacher, and while Won works out his feelings on the basketball court, Hana ends up outside her house staring into space. Seo-hoo’s words about not wanting to lose her and coming back (after three freaking years!!) just for her keep echoing through her mind.
Won finds her there, and she claims she has something important to tell him. Slowly, she explains that Seo-hoo was never a choice for her, but more like a compulsion. She thought that she’d be able to make an informed decision when he came back, but now finds she can’t exercise control when it comes to him.
“I… can’t choose again,” she admits. “I… can’t push Seo-hoo away.” In response, Won just smiles gently as he tells her that from now on, their friendship will change if she’s with someone else. He’ll need time to accept whomever she loves, and she’ll need time to manage without him as a constant presence.
It’s when he acts all fine and talks about taking a vacation that Hana’s tears start to fall, because he’s giving her that “Everything’s okay!” smile that usually means everything’s not okay. And it probably isn’t, even as Won pulls her into a hug and tells her it is.
As for the necklace, he adds, she can think of it as an award for their seventeen years of friendship. He walks away from her as she cries, and only when he’s out of her sight does he let his own tears fall.
One month later.
Seo-hoo joins Hana at the bus stop and on the bus, spending most of the ride smiling at her before he rests his head on her shoulder and tells her to wake him up when they arrive at their destination.
While walking to the office, he constantly walks backwards just to catch more of a glimpse of her before he takes her hand in his. She accepts the gesture and they walk together like that, which I guess means they’re an item again. Woohoo.
Hana attends her friend’s wedding later, and is about to text Won to see if he’s coming before he appears, fresh off whatever vacation he took. His smile broad, he walks up to Hana and just says, “I’m a bit late, aren’t I?”
Flash back to all the things Won had said and all the actions he took that should’ve clued Hana in to his true feelings as she says in voiceover, “We’ve been together for so long that I couldn’t recognize that his expressions were changing. Perhaps it’s because he thought he’d be found out that he may have never looked me in the eye.”
COMMENTS
It’s pretty terrible when the only person in this show who isn’t being mind-numbingly vague about their feelings is Seo-hoo, especially considering that his directness actually got him everything he wanted. Does that mean the moral to this story is just that being honest will get you the girl even if you’re an undeserving douchebag? And that it’s okay as long as you’re a douchebag with feelings who can exercise an intangible hold over said girl by forcing your way back into her life?
If so, it makes me increasingly uneasy about where we might be headed, even though I recognize that we’re not even halfway through the series and conflict has been in short supply. It’s also legitimate that working through her feelings for Seo-hoo could be part of Hana’s character arc, but it’s equally legitimate to point out that her needing what will likely be a lot of time to realize something she already knew (that Seo-hoo’s no good) sounds like the exact opposite of fun. Those who might argue that being fun isn’t the point would presumably also argue against puppies, freedom, and/or good television.
It’d be a different deal altogether if Hana made her choice to be with Seo-hoo while she was of sound mind, but what makes it annoying both as a viewer and fellow human is the idea that she’s shirking responsibility for her decision by saying that she has no power over the decisions she makes regarding Seo-hoo. Just like that, she told Won that she never had a choice with Seo-hoo before—and even now, even after all this time he didn’t use to open a line of communication with her, she still can’t seem to stop herself. She recognizes this, and yet she’s powerless to change it.
I get that this is a Thing that happens, but it’s still a really, really frustrating thing to have happen for your story’s heroine. Hana hadn’t exactly been the stuff of dreams before, but this takes things to a whole new level and gives me a headache every time I try to wrap my head around it. It’s not like Seo-hoo re-entered her life riding a white horse of apology, or explanations, or even any sort of regard for her feelings. She cried at her engagement ceremony because he didn’t show up, but instead of looking inward and realizing that he was the cause of her tears, he focused on the fact that she took comfort with her best friend. And then said nothing about it to her. For three years.
And still counting, since he hasn’t actually told her that her relationship with Won was the reason why he didn’t feel the need to talk to her on the day of the ceremony or for an unexplainable crapload of time afterward. Then again, Won’s not much of an improvement when it comes to giving Hana the information she needs to have agency over her decisions (even if she’d just turn around and hand that agency to Seo-hoo), since he treated the love confession she missed as being his Only Chance in Seventeen Years to tell her how he felt. When she missed that, instead of just telling her how he felt later, he changed the entire way he thought about her. Or so he claims—if our chances of being able to read his thoughts are about as high as Hana’s chances are of carrying her own umbrella, then we’re in trouble.
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1 Cherry
July 27, 2015 at 8:29 PM
Yes yes it does- as asanine it is to admit- if u r forthright at what u want and clear about it u will probably get whatever you want even if Ure a douchebag bc no girl is a telepath or have enough brain cells to spare while trying to be a competitive career woman to decipher uncommunicated emotions. If u want a cookie u ask for one, don't just stare at the damn jar wondering if the lid will flip open by itself and a cookie will miraculously pop into you hand
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Maria
July 28, 2015 at 5:22 AM
Yes, you go, Girl! That's so true!!!
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2 evw09
July 27, 2015 at 8:29 PM
HeadsNo2, thank you for your recaps because I can no longer endure this series; however, I do plan to tune in when the cute returns. That'll be like the last 30 minutes of episode 16.
Admittedly, I have to pull away from this show because I can't be objective. The original was my first Taiwanese drama and ultimately, one my all-time favorite dramas. So, I can't resist comparing it to the original and every time I do my heart breaks a little more. I realize that isn't fair to the cast, crew and fandom so I tap out. Though, ragging on a show can be just as much fun as enjoying one...Just me?
So HeadsNo2, please continue to write on because I will be watching vicariously through your keyboard.
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Grace
July 28, 2015 at 7:01 AM
Agree! After 9 episodes, I am quitting this show! So boring and repetitive!
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gaeinalee
July 28, 2015 at 7:30 AM
+1
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windsun33
July 28, 2015 at 7:56 AM
I am just glad that someone else is watching this show and recapping so I can make occasional snarky comments about it. I gave up at EP4.
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3 Oonalala
July 27, 2015 at 8:32 PM
I was really hoping that Won's confession/non-confession/thing-he-said-to-Hana would make more sense in Korean and I'd come to Dramabeans and be enlightened. I'm disappointed to find out he's incomprehensible to everyone.
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KeikoAnn
July 28, 2015 at 10:01 AM
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4 KDaddict?JCW
July 27, 2015 at 8:35 PM
I FF thru half of it and still find this so boring and frustrating that it is depressing.
But then I also feel the same way about High Society, and to a slightly lesser extent Mask.
Perhaps KDs have run out of ideas, and all their scripts are just crap now. Perhaps the live shoot mass production system has squeezed writers dry. Perhaps I've watched too many KDs for too many years and am just jaded. It feels like this might be a good time to shed my addiction, and move on, which doesn't feel like a loss right about now.
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windsun33
July 28, 2015 at 8:04 AM
I think there is a reluctance in KD's to try new writers, so up until the breaking point (maybe this one?) they just keep recycling the old ones.
There have been a few notable exceptions, such as Grapevine, but those are rare. And it is not just the plots that get recycled, it is the same old tropes of wrist-grabbing, endlessly asking about how well someone is eating, and the like.
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Daphne
July 28, 2015 at 2:17 PM
I'm in the same boat; I've actually felt this way for 2 or so years. I come back once in a while for something that catches my eye (and I am more often than not disappointed) or receives great critical appraise (e.g. Grapevine, Punch, Misaeng), but I'm not all that interested in K-dramas/K-ent as whole anymore. I've dropped far more series than I've completed.
It's fine.
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5 Mimu
July 27, 2015 at 8:36 PM
Thanks for the recap HeadsNo2. :)
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Bubbeez
July 27, 2015 at 9:34 PM
Ditto! Unfortunately, I had to give up watching this stinker but keep up only because of your great recaps
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6 Crystal
July 27, 2015 at 8:37 PM
Can Hana just drop both of the two leads and take her own month long sabbatical to find herself? It feels that now that Won is back, he might find the need to fight for her now. I'm all for true love, but 17 years of silence and mixed messages is just too much.
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alua
July 28, 2015 at 1:20 AM
Nah, she's one of those girls that just always need to have a boyfriend, completely unaware of the fact that a year-long hiatus from dating and learning how to live happily by herself before jumping into relationships would do her good.
I mean, if she asked herself "Which person could I live without ever seeing again? Won or Seo-hoo?" The answer is so obvious. Never mind that she already spent three years living without one of them.......
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evw09
July 28, 2015 at 9:15 PM
@alua
+1
Very good point.
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kimchikay
July 28, 2015 at 8:51 AM
It would be epic if the writer's just completely took this off in another direction and did a whole Hana ala Eat Pray Love style...god knows she needs a break from life in general lol
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7 Eternal
July 27, 2015 at 8:43 PM
And it started out so well. Sigh ...
Thanks for the recap!
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8 sm1leitsamy
July 27, 2015 at 8:43 PM
Every time Seo-hoo smiles at Hana, I want to hit him in the face... so smug....
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Julia Fitri
July 27, 2015 at 9:10 PM
I'd like to set his face on fire.
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K
July 27, 2015 at 9:22 PM
hahaha same with me....I really hate seeing his smiley face....aughhhhs!!!!
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9 jubilaya
July 27, 2015 at 8:44 PM
I'm SO glad to know that I am not alone in my TOTAL CONFUSION about the non-half-connect some of the half dots confession type thingy that went on with Won.
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10 imfaerae
July 27, 2015 at 8:57 PM
Bless your heart for writing the recap for this boring spinning wheels drama. And I'm with you on the necklace scene. Huh?...
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Julia Fitri
July 27, 2015 at 9:07 PM
I think the necklace scene was supposed to be confession. I think. He did promise to spend a lifetime beside her as a friend, but now he wants more and he admits that knowing that he could get rejected or that their relationship will change. So essentially he would be breaking that promise.
I dunno. I think that's what he meant. This drama is hideous in character development.
“You should ask why I didn’t show up at the engagement ceremony three years ago. What you saw that day was me not showing up to the ceremony. What I saw was my fiancé crying in another man’s arms.” Yeah, because you didn’t show up.
Yeah, I yelled that out to my monitor also. I'm so frustrated that he justifies his actions of not contacting Hana for 3 years with that. I mean, that's not a reason. She's sad and heartbroken, Won is her bestfriend, him being a man had nothing to do with it.
EVERYONE NEEDS TO LEARN HOW TO LISTEN AND COMMUNICATE AND DISCUSS THINGS. UGH.
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tapiocapearl
July 27, 2015 at 11:15 PM
You'd think best friends of 17 years would be able to tell each other everything.
Nope? Okay.
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alua
July 28, 2015 at 1:17 AM
They are not nearly as good friends as they think they are. I'm closer to dear friends that live half way around the world from me.
And: When they do finally get together, think of how much time they wasted. I mean, there are real life stories of people who get together with their first love after 30 years, but normally those people live lives (get married, have kids, go places) in between but these two... they've just been waiting and holding out for years.
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⭐ Sera The Ms Temper ⭐
July 28, 2015 at 12:39 AM
only God knows how i hate seo hoo because he simply put the blame on Won-Hana.. rather than acknowledge his mistake not showing up during the engagement party.. urghh...
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11 Julia Fitri
July 27, 2015 at 9:02 PM
I just dislike everybody now.
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⭐ Sera The Ms Temper ⭐
July 27, 2015 at 9:04 PM
HAHAHAHA. for now, i only like Hana's family, Won's sister and their friends :P
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Julia Fitri
July 27, 2015 at 9:09 PM
Yeah, that's pretty much it.
These people need to learn how to listen and use their words.
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Fitri Iphiet
July 27, 2015 at 11:12 PM
ikr! and i have skipped many.. many many many scenes with everyone in it. lols.. what should i watch then?? haha..
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Lizzie
July 27, 2015 at 11:50 PM
I think there is a problem when I start wishing this was an apocalyptic drama...
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12 ⭐ Sera The Ms Temper ⭐
July 27, 2015 at 9:03 PM
i just hope by next week's episode, Hana can start figure out her feelings, who she love and need the most. and i want her to be more mean, she needs to be more careful with Seo Hoo.. im glad at least this episode shows that Hana still be careful and be considering towards her family n friends as regard seo hoo.
i really hate Seo-hoo, even L's character is more pleasant. @_@. can we hope this drama will bring back L? at least L to stay as a friend with Hana n help her to figure out her feeling.
i think as a drama this plot is very boring. but it happens in real life right? we as human often find difficulties, and confusion especially dealing with feelings.......
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tapiocapearl
July 27, 2015 at 11:16 PM
I really hate Seo-hoo too. I feel like I'm supposed to hate him, but the writer(s) is/are totally trying to make us feel sympathy for him and like. I feel bad for the people who fall for that trickery.
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Liza
July 28, 2015 at 12:05 AM
Is there anyone who fall for that trickery? Stuck with that lousy character, I feel sorry for YKS. Honestly I pity all the actors *sigh*
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alua
July 28, 2015 at 1:50 AM
There are people who fall for trickery like this, but it's not very compelling here because Hana had three years of zero contact with Seo-hoo (which is normally plenty of time to come to your senses), is in her 30s (i.e. should not act like a naive teenager but have some maturity/self-confidence), has a pretty stable life and a supportive family (including a childhood that gave her a model of loving parents, not an unhealthy relationship). Plus, she has had a guy beside all this time that drops everything for her and who has acted as her de-facto boyfriend all this while (except for the physical part: but, as Andrea (comment 21) points out, the Korean version doesn't use the physical part/sexual tension the way the Taiwanese one did) so there doesn't seem to be any real reason (other than Hana's stupidity) for her to fall that trickery.
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⭐ Sera The Ms Temper ⭐
July 28, 2015 at 12:42 AM
the writer is trying too hard but unfortunately failed to make us to feel sympathy towards him, coz even how sweet he is (err...) , hes not even a likeable even a bit....
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hollymool
July 29, 2015 at 2:30 AM
Yes, i have to agree with you that these relationship matters do happen in real life. The drama explores how crucial timing is for relationships . I really love this drama, I find it full of chemistry and very meaningful.
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13 Sahara
July 27, 2015 at 9:07 PM
What happened to Won's "big secret"? And to Seo Hoo's "cheating" that was teased a few eps back? It seems that a lot of things were swept under the rug with the writer change.
Maybe they shouldn't have said that this was a remake because it is very different from the original, save for the best friends situation. As a standalone drama, this isn't even that good. I enjoyed 9 Ends 2 Outs a lot more.
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tapiocapearl
July 27, 2015 at 11:13 PM
Oh my god, stop making sense! Stop being too smart for this show! Pretend you don't remember anything like the writer!
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Liza
July 28, 2015 at 12:12 AM
LMAO! +10
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⭐ Sera The Ms Temper ⭐
July 28, 2015 at 12:43 AM
lol at your comment tapioca!
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gaeinalee
July 28, 2015 at 8:46 AM
LOL. Oh you.
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sungsta
July 28, 2015 at 1:31 AM
I spent many hours pondering upon Won's big secret.
The only plausible one that I could come up with was that his father suffered from a genetic disorder (that manifests in the late 20's), and died leaving his mother destitute and their family shattered, ala Lee Gun style in Fated to Love you.
Which is why Won has held off on saying anything until he is "safe"... though his latest "confession" is just.. as HeadsNo2 puts it... huh. And Woohoo.
As for Seo Hoo, I suspect we will see more of his cheating ways soon enough. If there's one thing that this show knows how to do well, it's demonstrating how unpleasant Seo Hoo is.
Anyhoo... it's time for me to batten down the hatches for the inevitable angst downpour... Woohoo?
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pompom10
July 28, 2015 at 10:00 AM
Ditto. Right before this drama start, I was looking for some old dramas that I never watched and I found 9 Ends 2 Outs. It's really enjoyable and still fresh in my mind. Then I watch this drama. It really pales in comparison.
I recently watched the TW version, too. I like it but it has its flaws.I had hoped the K-version can do better, since i love some K-drama remakes more than the original version (FTLY, Witch Romance). But oh well :/
Will drop this despite my love for Lee Jin Wook.
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hollymool
July 29, 2015 at 2:33 AM
I do agree that they shouldnt have said it was a remake of the taiwan's version because people just keeps on comparing when they should really look at this fabulous drama on it own with it's own issues raised.
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14 Maria
July 27, 2015 at 9:25 PM
I think that of Won is away for a while that will make Hana realise what her life will look like in the future. But I would prefer it to be more dramatic.
I like him leaving for 2 years, definitely more than just 1 month.
Or my favorite scenario, a plane accident where Won goes missing, that would force Hana's hand. I really hope they will be more dramatic and somehow force Hana and Won make a decision.
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Lwx_23
July 28, 2015 at 2:43 AM
Him having or faking amnesia would be more effective, thus she can also experience 'so close and yet so far'.
As for her opening her eyes, well I doubt that will happen anytime soon, as the whole show is about that. Personally I am getting tired of this and probably will stop following it soon, if it keeps like this.
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15 Lyza
July 27, 2015 at 9:32 PM
I'm as frustrated as everyone else... I can't believe Hana would simply say that she can't help going ack to SH and think that that's a good enough reason to believe that the as*h*le that caused her pain for 3 years has changed.
oh and clearly he hasn't. I get that that does happen in RL ut that doesn't mean it's any less frustrating.
I'm just so angry at the writers because with such a eautiful premise: best friends for over 17 years, we could've had it all. and if it wasn't for his lack of communication skills that would drive anyone mad, Won would be the perfect best friend/boyfriend anyone could ever have
as for SeoHoo I just can't stand the dude. I fast-forward all his scenes, particularly the ones he shares with Hana. I can't handle that much BS
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16 sailorgirl
July 27, 2015 at 9:35 PM
I'm glad I'm not the only one having violent thoughts about Seo Hoo and his smarmy smile T_T
Honestly though I feel like Won got super nervous and jumbled the words in his confession? Maybe he meant to say, "I can't be your friend forever. Sorry, I want to be by your side" that makes way more sense. Ha Na's probably acting weird around him because she's concerned her BFF of 17 years can't form sentences well and doesn't know what to do about it?
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growingbeautifully
July 27, 2015 at 11:41 PM
LOLOL! @ judy10001
+10 This makes so much MORE sense! :D
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17 Exquisitemelody
July 27, 2015 at 9:40 PM
So much promise with two awesome leads...
Thanks for the recap! I keep reading even though the story is frustrating as hell...
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18 Adaobi
July 27, 2015 at 9:56 PM
I'm just so tired of this show. They going around in circles to see who gets dizzy first. Yunno, like musical chairs.
I have a feeling though that Won will assets himself in the next episode. Hana better figure out her feelings and take that lwap of faith. If not, then I'm shelfing this drama until it's over. My heart can't handle it anymore. I can't bear the tension! Aargh!!!
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hollymool
July 29, 2015 at 2:37 AM
LOL, tension is what makes a drama good. Seo hoo has to appear to make things happen. I cannot stand the sigh of seo hoo as well but without him, there will be no catalyst for the two leads to get together
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19 Jyc
July 27, 2015 at 10:27 PM
I... also didn't get the necklace part. Was the a confession? What does Won mean? I can now definitely say that the problem is the writing.
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20 nil
July 27, 2015 at 10:38 PM
@kdaddictjcw try watching Taiwanese drama. Their drama getting better nowadays, especially the light romcom/idol drama.
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21 Andrea
July 27, 2015 at 10:40 PM
[SPOILERS for 'In Time With You', the original Taiwanese drama]
Let's be honest here. In a highly toxic relationship like this, a whole lot of the reason why you stay/go back is because your sexual chemistry with the toxic person is off the chain. The sex is great. You smang this person like you smang no other, and the sex-magic gets in your brain and messes you up.
'In Time With You' showed this. Because it's a Taiwanese drama, and Taiwanese dramas are apparently more liberal this way, they were able to *show* that sexy chemistry between Cheng You Qing and Li Wei (that show's version of Seo-hoo). Frankly, their sexual chemistry was so sizzling that it made the sexual chemistry between You Qing and Da Ren (that show's Won) look tame and kinda lackluster. So you GOT why You Qing might choose a guy who cheated on her and left her -- because DAMN, you might make that same choice if All That Sexy walked back into your life.
But since this is a Korean drama, they can't show that part of a relationship. They can't show the toxic but oh-so-addictive sexual aspect of these characters, and frankly, it's the only thing that would make any damn sense in this scenario. So we as viewers are left with LITERALLY NO UNDERSTANDING of why Hana would choose to be with Seohoo. It's frustrating, and it angers me that the writers didn't take this Very Obvious Obstacle into consideration when crafting this script. I *knew* there wasn't going to be anything close to the electric sexual chemistry between You Qing and Li Wei, but I trusted that the writers would come up with another plausible explanation for Hana returning to Seohoo. The fact that they haven't makes me throw my hands up in disgust with this drama.
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tapiocapearl
July 27, 2015 at 11:10 PM
Nice analysis and insight. Something is missing from this show and it's sexual tension. There is ABSOLUTELY NO CHEMISTRY between Hana and Seo-hoo. He has no redeeming qualities and he's not that great looking (my opinion). What the hell kind of reason is there to go back to him? I still can't get over his lame excuse for being absent and incommunicado for three years.
Drama, don't even try to convince me he's got all these cutesy quirks and warmth inside his arrogant self. Not buying it.
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Fitri Iphiet
July 27, 2015 at 11:20 PM
thank you. your analysis helps me to understand you qing and li wei's relationship. at first i thought, 'okay.. she loved him'. that's it. but i forget about sexual chemistry which took a big part in their relationship. while in this korea version.. of course they wont show it. i wonder why?? since their movies tell everything, while dramas.. meh.
the problem also came from the changing of writer nim.. the storyline in this version was meh, i used to think, this gonna be a good adaptation, sigh.
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Liza
July 28, 2015 at 12:33 AM
now that makes sense. Thanks for clarification!
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alua
July 28, 2015 at 2:01 AM
I think you have a very good point here.
All I can do is look at Hana and see Won beside her as her de facto boyfriend of 17 years, doing everything except the physical part. But since the physical part between Hana and Seo-hoo has essentially been de-sexualised, we are left baffled why Hana would go for Seo-hoo when she already has a de facto boyfriend that meets all she would ever want in a relationship.
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hollymool
July 29, 2015 at 2:39 AM
hi andrea - see my post number 51. I gave an explanation there as to why oh ha na returned to seo hoo
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22 Endzkim
July 27, 2015 at 10:50 PM
First hyun bin. Now it's Ha Ji Won. Secret Garden curse haha?
But seriously, i am nervous everytime big k stars are making drama nowadays. Hopefully, my So Ji Sub oppa will do well in his upcoming drama...
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⭐ Sera The Ms Temper ⭐
July 28, 2015 at 12:46 AM
hahaha. dun be so nervous. we have few others big k stars make a comeback. lets see is it a hit or a miss.
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23 eny
July 27, 2015 at 10:56 PM
i really enjoying this drama, the story is simple n realistic, won confession is suit his charracter since the beginning he never say clearly what is in his heart, he's not expressive n calm person. why people ask about won secret? what i get when he said "will you happier if you know my secret" is the thruth that he love hana since high school. i like this drama, this is drama what i need to watch after complicated love story like my love eundong
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Liza
July 28, 2015 at 12:57 AM
Oh, well. At least one person is enjoying the show. Well done, writers.
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Maria
July 28, 2015 at 5:18 AM
I am a thirty something working girl in Asia, I absolutely understand Hana's problem. She's not a superhero, she makes mistakes and so does Won, they're having good jobs but actually just fragile people with imperfect life like myself. I love this drama too after so many crazy birth secret, amnesia, chaebol drama I had, this one is so rich with simple things in my daily life. Thank you Heads for helping me understanding this lovely little drama.
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hollymool
July 29, 2015 at 2:43 AM
I'm with you here, I love this drama . I think people really need to look between the lines to really appreciate this drama and what it is trying to portray.
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24 yayabean
July 27, 2015 at 10:59 PM
I'm so done with this drama and it has been demoted to recaps only; I am no longer watching it. The best episodes were the first 4.
Thankfully there are other dramas on my must-watch list and instead of watching over the weekend The Time I've Bored You 7000 minutes, I finally marathoned Soulmate instead, and I'm glad I did!
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tapiocapearl
July 27, 2015 at 11:03 PM
Before the writer switch. Imagine that! Still can't believe that. One of the ex-writers wrote Sly and Single Again, which I loved because of the natural progression of the main couple. That could've been true for this drama. It makes me so sad.
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iamdeb
July 28, 2015 at 9:40 AM
I hope this serves as a lesson to other networks thinking of switching writers in the MIDDLE of a drama, who thought that would somehow work out??
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25 tapiocapearl
July 27, 2015 at 11:01 PM
Whoever here likes Seo-hoo, raise your hands! (crickets)
Ugh, I cannot fathom why Hana went back to him. I think so less of her right now, it's ridiculous. I understand what she said when she told Won she never had a chance to actually break up with him, so there's definitely closure there that she needed. But that closure isn't supposed to be "go back to him!" Never have I ever seen a less deserving second lead male character. (Really, are pianists that famous in this day and age? No disrespect, but let's be real.) And honestly, there scenes look like a woman talking to her younger brother. That's how bored I am by their scenes.
My big annoyance with this new writer is how obvious they are at trying to make is seem like Seo-hoo really is innocent in all of this. In trying to make him a better character (which is impossible because he's an ass), they're forsaking Won's development. Won, who is the main lead. Won, who started off this story as a dependable man who respected Hana. Nine episodes of him having no guts made it hard for me to really get behind him. I'm still on his side, but only because the other guy is a complete blip on my radar.
I'd rather So-eun be back and all pushy. I'd rather sit through scenes of her than Seo-hoo.
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alua
July 28, 2015 at 1:37 AM
<I understand what she said when she told Won she never had a chance to actually break up with him, so there’s definitely closure there that she needed.
I think closure that is dependent on the other person is nonsense. It's an excuse people make up when they can't deal with things, but life doesn't work like that. If you live your life dependent on having that "final conversation", getting that explanation "why" you broke up, you might spend your whole life waiting. You need to find closure in yourself. I have an ex who always asked for more conversation for "closure". Seven years later he still sends me a message saying we should talk, which only showed that he still doesn't get it: there's no answer I can give him that'll be satisfying to him, he needs to understand himself that it's over and move on. I can't do it for him, just as Seo-hoo can't (and won't) do it for Hana either.
Anyhow, I think Hana has a lot of maturing to do.
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26 nimil
July 27, 2015 at 11:15 PM
hi all, been a silent reader and first time commenting on DB. What i cant help feeling about Seo-hoo is that he is a manipulative jerk, very good at using words/actions to move Hana and he even tried to guilt trip Won by blaming his 3 years disappearance to Won! Good thing Won is smarter than that. I have met such manipulative guys in real life before and it is truly difficult to get out of such abusive relationships.
Hana really need the support of her family and Won to let her know that she cannot possibly find love in Seo-hoo. Honestly, i don't see that Seo-hoo love her at all, he just want her back for his own desires and he doesn't seem to care about Hana feelings. So i really hope Hana will dump Seo-hoo soon and Seo-hoo get his just desserts. sorry for the rant!
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tapiocapearl
July 27, 2015 at 11:19 PM
What was the trigger for him to come back and harass her until she gave in? Did he just seriously hear her voice in his head during piano practice one day and remembered he loved a girl once?
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nimil
July 27, 2015 at 11:58 PM
Maybe he missed having someone (Hana) to obsessed over him and came back. Someone has to feed his ego to keep him going i suppose. I think there are people like Seo-hoon and Hana in real life, so i hope that Hana can really break free of this bondage (perhaps sexual as well) soon and lead a happy life. This will then let other hanas in the real world see that they can still be happy without the manipulative man/woman in their life.
Seriously the writers are really good at portraying Seo hoo as such a jerk (if this is their intention) as I have never dislike any male lead as much as Seo hoo, even the outright evil ones. And i agree with you that the scenes Seo hoo has with Hana are really difficult to watch. i literally shudder when he tried to gaze into hana's eyes - there isnt any chemistry at all!
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hollymool
July 29, 2015 at 2:51 AM
LOL, Yeah i don't like the guy too, Maybe because he is ugly. That's why we cant get onto him, But the lack of chemistry between them is all the more desire for us to see oh ha na and won to be together, and when that happens (which it will- i promise LOL) We will fall deeply in love with the drama
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growingbeautifully
July 27, 2015 at 11:37 PM
Yes, scary, stalker-like and now possibly abusive (emotionally) relationship!!! Run for your life Ha Na!!!
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fab
July 28, 2015 at 4:33 AM
Yes yes, GB, that's my whole and only thought about that guy! Oh God, he's the worst. Don't forget, he's a cheater too.
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27 goodytwoshoes
July 27, 2015 at 11:17 PM
Yeah. Sorta getting boring now. But, I really want Won to just let go now. C'mon, its been 17years already. Move over Hana, go on trips meet new friends, date someone new. It won't be easy, but it is a start. I just hate that he's sorta waiting on Hana to figure out he has feelings for her. And pardon my french, I call bullsh*t.
And Hana?????? What in the devil's desk diary is wrong with you? She suffering from abandoment issues? Get it together girl
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Fitri Iphiet
July 27, 2015 at 11:23 PM
hahahaha, your words! +111111
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28 growingbeautifully
July 27, 2015 at 11:35 PM
Thanks so much Heads and my commiserations LOL!
To be honest, I've stopped watching. I did not watch this episode and only skimmed the next and that's more than enough for me. However your recaps are still fun to read and it spares me the ultimate in frustration when the characters I want to like and root for are doing the exact things they shouldn't, so that I can no longer even like them, let alone root for them.
Thanks for the funny and for your analyses in questions, as in ... "Does that mean the moral to this story is just that being honest will get you the girl even if you’re an undeserving douchebag? And that it’s okay as long as you’re a douchebag with feelings who can exercise an intangible hold over said girl by forcing your way back into her life?"
I hope not and it is not OK and why are they (Won and HN) in such an unhealthy state of mind over relationships when they come from good families and have dated and have OK friends.... what's wrong with these people????? A commenter above mentions the sex thing that is the reason why SH and HN have a compulsion for each other. Well if that is the only reason, then it is truly hidden from us. And so I continue to rant, since when is someone having a hold over one, a good reason to be in a committed relationship with them?
And yes, about telling Ha Na how they feel and letting her decide .... why don't the two guys and Ha Na just have one of those 3-person conferences that friend Kang Na Young so astutely organised in church and have a game of truth or dare or die or whatever!
I've reached a stage where I no longer want Ha Na in a relationship with either of these guys. Even L might be a better deal LOL! If Won cannot even speak the truth to Ha Na or trust in her and bare his heart, it augers ill for a good marriage, since that must be based on trust and honesty.
Until Won becomes mature and responsible in his 'loving', I'll be happy to just laugh along with your recaps and comments until the story becomes actually, ... you know,.... interesting? :D
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alua
July 28, 2015 at 2:09 AM
<I’ve reached a stage where I no longer want Ha Na in a relationship with either of these guys.
Yes. I don't care much about what happens to Seo-hoo, but the longer this not-communicating-with-each-other-honestly goes on with Ha Na and Won, the less I am able to cheer for them as the couple they'll eventually be in the final episode. If you don't learn to talk to each other in seventeen years of supposedly being best friends, I hold out no hope for the marriage. It's a rotten basis for a relationship though I'm certain the drama will try to sell us a blissfully happy ever after.
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growingbeautifully
July 28, 2015 at 7:28 AM
@alua
+1 That's one of the things I gripe about in dramas. The way they force a certain outcome, usually in a relationship, regardless of how inadvisable it is, and how in real life it is a bad idea. But by hook or by crook, the viewer is to buy into the happily ever after because the couple involved are the OTP.
It would be refreshing, amidst the torrent of complaints (from us viewers LOL!) that will come, if Ha Na walks out of this at the end, alone but happy, and confident, and once again (as she did after the L issue) carrying her own umbrella. :)
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patinalee
July 28, 2015 at 3:00 AM
Feel like pulling out your hair much, GB? :- D :-P
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growingbeautifully
July 28, 2015 at 7:20 AM
Hey @patinalee!
Long time no read! How are you doing?
LOL... I feel like strangling the male lead and 2nd lead characters, but would rather retain my thinning hair! LOLOL!
It's such a release to come and rant and get it over with. Then I can enjoy other shows with a lighter heart and not a lighter head. :D
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fab
July 28, 2015 at 4:38 AM
But...
Hana+won=<3
Someone save this drama!
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growingbeautifully
July 28, 2015 at 7:45 AM
@ fab♥hilleo
Hi again! I think one possible way to save this drama from itself is to throw in a few tropes,... since afterall,..... it is kind of hard to annoy us viewers very much more than we are already LOL!
Now could be a good time to use the amnesia trope... not for Won but for Ha Na, who will then have to choose between multiple suitors from scratch, so to speak, ... then before her choice and her can get together, she'll develop a tragic disease, just manage to be married for 1 day and die happy in hubby's arms. Yes, we'll still be ranting, but at least we'll have many different things to say!!! :D
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windsun33
July 28, 2015 at 8:21 AM
I think it is beyond saving. It is one of the lowest rated dramas on the air right now, and seems to be sinking lower. It may end up getting cut short, but I doubt that they have a replacement drama ready to go yet.
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growingbeautifully
July 28, 2015 at 4:25 PM
@Windsun33
I find it strange that after so many dramas have been cut shorter, and in this day and age of more sophisticated viewers ,the producers actually thought they could sustain 16 episodes with no story except that a girl is not allowed to make an informed choice because of 2 immature and even selfish men. They probably thought the leads were supposed to carry the show apart from any good storytelling. Maybe the cinematography and music is not bad, and the actors are nice to look at,... but I believe drama viewers are out to be told a good story and not just to view a pretty piece of boring art.
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29 striving8
July 27, 2015 at 11:36 PM
These people just need to be a little more honest and have a little more guts to admit it!
It is mind numbing that these is no bloody conflict in this show.
What a waste.
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30 Z
July 27, 2015 at 11:53 PM
So, i was understandably confused when I watched Won's Confession/Not a Confession of Viki. I actually cheered when he said "I can't be your friend forever" because I assumed that the net line would be "I want to be more than friends." Instead, I get whatever unintelligible gobbledygook it was that he spouted. Still, I wasn't worried. Even the best subbers have bad days, right? I'm sure I'll learn true translation when the recaps come out...
And here we are right now still having no idea about what Won its talking about. But i do want to say one thing to him: DRY YOUR TEARS! YOU DON'T DESERVE TO CRY OVER THIS! Ugh! You had three perfect opportunities in this episode alone to tell her how you feel. Not to mention the 17 years before that? How you gonna be all in your feelings when you've done nothing to show her how you feel. I know that everyone else can see it but you've spent your whole life telling her how much you don't love her so of course she isn't going to pick up on it because you give her a necklace and make a convoluted speech. I'm so done with you!
Hana, I have no words for your stupidity.None.
Seo Hoo, well played... I guess. You're a terrible protection but i guess you know better than us that being with Hana doesn't require being a good person.
Mom and Dad, I'm sorry you have such ridiculous children. You'll be taking care of all three of them for the rest of your lives.
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Roswara
July 29, 2015 at 1:12 AM
34 years old, still cannot communicate well..
Ck..ck...
Both Hana and Won needs to go back to school and take communication skill major.
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hollymool
July 29, 2015 at 3:01 AM
I'm 47 years old and me and my husband still don't communicate well. Come on, not everybody in this world are sensible or are able to communicate well. And not being able to communicate well doesn't mean a bad relationship as well. People are wide and varied. We should give more credit to this drama
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31 Chirene
July 28, 2015 at 12:11 AM
Ha Na is criously not it...wat does she mean by she doesn't have a choice when it comes to Seo Hoo. Can someone please tell her she's got a lot of choices like Won, and Won isn't even helping matters, wat kind of confession was that.Let me not talk about Seo Joo,'cos he's jst a douche or even worse. Totally this drama needs God, Writers-nim please do something about the leads before this drama becomes unwatchable and unrecapable; if there's any word like that. Thank you Heads No.2 for recapping this
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Liza
July 28, 2015 at 12:49 AM
At this point, my only hope is that they will shorten it to 12 episodes only
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32 Mon
July 28, 2015 at 12:29 AM
I was looking forward to watch this drama bcos i like HJW and LJW, that's why i went to watched ITWY before korean version.
I must say i love taiwanese version.
Korean version similar with any romcom dramas we have seen. Nothing special
I'm a bit disappointed
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windsun33
July 28, 2015 at 8:24 AM
The Taiwan version had some actual chemistry between the leads, so was at least watchable. Which is actually kind of unusual - TW dramas are usually way too bland and saccharine-sweet for me.
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33 tiadebella
July 28, 2015 at 12:35 AM
WTF, Won? That is all.
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34 Den
July 28, 2015 at 12:40 AM
So...what happened? I thought things would pick up during the second half and was hoping I'd watch again during the last 2 weeks of its run...but from what I'm reading all the main characters are so unlikeable now.
Writer wasted Ha Ji-won & Lee Jin-wook. At least the OST's still decent, haha.
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35 ⭐ Sera The Ms Temper ⭐
July 28, 2015 at 12:53 AM
if Hana not even back to her sense, can the writer make Won involve in some sort of accident and make him forget about all of his memories with Hana.. and be mean towards Hana.
and this time around Hana will realize on how much Won is important to her. even amnesia is so typical kdrama, its meh.. but i wud say its better rather than what happened now.
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36 Amilia
July 28, 2015 at 1:12 AM
I do not have words for how much Seo Hoo bothers me. I hate hate hate him. He makes my skin crawl.
I have issues with conflict. I have trouble telling people no. So when I actually do work up the nerve to tell someone no, and they don't listen? Gah!
Ha Ha has been telling Seo Hoo no over and over and over again. She has been using words, actions, and body language. And he freaking won't back off!!!!! When she told Won she didn't have a choice with Seo Hoo, it felt to me like it was because he wasn't letting her have a choice. At the end of the episode, when they were apparently together, it looked to me more like she had just given up on overtly fighting him off. She was still saying no with body language, but knew it was no use. She couldn't actually get rid of him, but she certainly didn't look happy about the situation.
Or maybe I'm reading too much of my own nuerocies into Ha Na.
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nimil
July 28, 2015 at 2:58 AM
i agree with your observation of Hana... but it also seem like Hana craves attention and love, so when someone like Seo Hoo kept on pestering her, he will eventually wear her defense down and she gives in to her inner needs of wanting to feel loved.
She is quite desperate to be loved as can be seen on how she easily fell for L .. so i think anyone who keep on showering attention on Hana will win her heart in the long run. And of course it is even easier with Seo Hoo who was once her fiance that she has a soft spot for.
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37 Me
July 28, 2015 at 1:24 AM
Seriously, I have only read the recaps here, and I STILL get bored to death!! I was really excited for this before it came out, because everyone had made it sound so good and Ha Ji Won was in it, but I should have doubted it if they had to keep changing the writers. I mean, I feel like I'm watching a bunch of high schoolers when all of them are 'supposedly' are in their thirties. What a bad representation for adults!! And Ha Ji Won's character is do badly written, I don't feel for her at all. I hate those type of heroines that are considered tough to everyone but the guys she knows. That is when she allows herself to be treated like a rag doll that they can do whatever they want with them. Ugh! But then again, with these guys next to her, I suggest that she just run away. And find a man who treats her well like Won but EXPRESSES his feelings like Seo hoo isn't afraid to do. I mean, talk about the worst main leads ever!! They were cute at first but now they are just plain irritating. And I have only read the recaps. High Society isn't that far behind. The only thing saving it is that the main lead guy is becoming honest and likeable like I've waiting for him to do and the second lead girl! She is the best of that show!!! We need more like her...
But I'm crossing my fingers hoping for this show to pick itself up!
Thank you for continuing to write the recaps!! :D
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38 rating
July 28, 2015 at 3:00 AM
*The relationship between Won to Hana = infinity. Starting by being long time friends, secretly interested to each others, & both being fear to accept & confess. So, their relationship has no ending point same as the poem book that Won believed, "Love of One Eye fish". But now, everything started to change.
Won did make his subtle confession. From now on, it' s the end of their BFF relationship, he would be no longer close to her & there's no turning point, because his feeling to her had changed. But, how & what will he do to make progress & cross over friend zone to lover? He's start to grow up. Anyhow, pls don't drag till last episode.
The relationship between Jerk Hoo to Hana = Empty. Both tried to fulfill each other needs, but it's not love. Hana is a wrong key note to Seo Hoo while he practiced his piano that he kept restarting for perfection. But, what will he do once he's done? Normally, people will move on for new challenges. He just used her to fulfill his ego & machocism.
Regarding Hana, she told Won that she got no power to start or to end the relationship w/Jerk Hoo. In fact, everything must have start or end point, otherwise, it's empty. Her feeling to Jerk Hoo is now actually nothing. She's just cringed to the past feeling & delusion w/o considering the surrounding reality & facts. She, herself, is really a wrong key. She kept doing the same mistakes in men choices & relationship. But, how long she can do trial & error and be kept by Jerk Hoo to restart?
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nimil
July 28, 2015 at 3:34 AM
Hana will need to find a breakthrough herself, hopefully jerk Hoo makes some big mistakes to hurt her again, and she can find full closure in her r/s with Hoo. Good thing she has a loving family (and Won!) to support her so she should be able to snap out of this vicious cycle with jerk Hoo. I hope we dont have to wait too long for this to happen!
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hollymool
July 29, 2015 at 3:08 AM
yes i agree with you guys, ha na thinks she still loves the jerk but she will soon find out that she has changed and that she no longer loves him as much as she thought she does.
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39 kles
July 28, 2015 at 3:38 AM
Like many above, I am ffwding all the Cha Seo Hoo scenes. He just makes my blood boil. I'm not sure if he would be more likeable if he were played by a more charming actor... I'd like to imagine Jo In Sung playing Cha Seo Hoo, I'd still watch. At least then I can understand why Hana went back to him. I just can't get behind someone who just says "I just can't push him away anymore". Like WTF?
Won isn't any better, I was left with so many "???!!" after that "confession/not a confession" scene. I also thought it was lost in translation, but clearly, it was just written badly.
There's totally noone to root for in this drama!!! Can they change Won's centre parting at least? I'm only watching for Ha Ji Won (she's so pretty, even to this ahjumma), and Lee Jin Wook (still find him charming, even though I don't get his character, and he goddammit had better have a darn good reason for this i-can't-love-hana thing).
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Andrea
July 28, 2015 at 12:41 PM
"Can they change Won’s centre parting at least?"
Hahaha, yes! PLEASE change his awful center part!
I *LIVE* for the scenes where he's at work with his hair all gelled and upswept. He's sinfully handsome when he's not sporting that dorky, floppy center part.
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40 klmeri
July 28, 2015 at 4:47 AM
Ha Ha is weak when it comes to relationships. Unfortunately I have a friend just this way, who will leave a bad relationship only to return to it because her resolve weakens and she is afraid she will never find love. That weak is something the jerks of the world prey on, because they can be as much of a jerk as they want and still get the girl. From this perspective, the drama could be considered realistic - but certainly not fun. I hope Ha Na learns not to be weak, but it seems to me Won only acerbates the issue be propping her up. Maybe his sabbatical will be a change for the good.
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alua
July 28, 2015 at 5:39 AM
Sorry, responded to you in comment 41!
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41 alua
July 28, 2015 at 5:38 AM
<Unfortunately I have a friend just this way, who will leave a bad relationship only to return to it because her resolve weakens and she is afraid she will never find love.
I think that certainly happens, I just question the three years of zero contact Hana had in between to harden her resolve (extracting yourself from a toxic relationship is hard to do if you continue to interact but they didn't, for years) and the guy she has had at her side all the while who does as much as a boyfriend would (except the physical part, but the drama is underselling this part in Seo-hoo). The basic scenario of being unable to let go is realistic, but I just think the details the drama gives make the story as it is unfolding not very compelling.
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42 alienshore
July 28, 2015 at 6:46 AM
I never saw the source material, but I had a feeling going into this that it would annoy the crap out of me. It's everything I dislike about relationships in Kdramas and no other drama to fill out the plot. It might be an ok story for a movie, but to fill 16 hours with this nonsense is just mind-numbing and infuriating.
But then they made the 2nd male lead so unbelievably awful. I like the actor but if the character had even a little likability I could understand Ha Na a little, but he just plain sucks.
I will keep watching this because of my great love for Ha Ji Won and her chemistry with Lee Jin Wook and also Ha Na's adorable family. But holy crap, I can understand why the ratings are so bad. Makes me wonder if the original drama was vastly different in order to garner so much love?
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Andrea
July 28, 2015 at 2:41 PM
The plot of the original drama was very similar (so far), but the execution was ON POINT, and the characters had relatable motives behind their actions.
'In Time With You' was a great drama. It's definitely worth watching!
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Caro
July 28, 2015 at 6:21 PM
I tried the original because everyone kept saying it was beautiful and so much better. But I couldn't even make it made it halfway through. I found it just as infuriating as this version.
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hollymool
July 29, 2015 at 3:14 AM
i tried too but i found it soooo slow moving, i could'nt get pass the 30 minutes mark. I love the korean version a lot better because I love the chemistry already displayed by ha ji won and lee jin wok.
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43 aco
July 28, 2015 at 7:02 AM
This drama is soooo bad executed that a miracle won't save it..
Look at Oh my Ghostess it is so well executed from writing/directing and acting..
They really need to look at drama and learn from it.. hahaha
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44 gaeinalee
July 28, 2015 at 7:38 AM
Thanks for the recap, Heads!
Gotta stop watching after this ep since it not good for my sanity and heart. I was groaning incoherently, non stop, while watching it. With Jin I still able to watch the rest of its craziness and disaster, but this one.. I just can't.
I'm still your faithful recap's reader of this drama tho'.
Oh, and is this the cause of your occasional "ugh"? Thanks again, Heads!
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45 Nox
July 28, 2015 at 8:03 AM
Okay, if Hana didn't go black to that Pianist, then this drama should end in less than 10ep bwahahaha What plot again do we hope with this drama if not she goes back to her ex? relax guys. Thanks heaven became I'll left this drama since ep7. Sorry boring
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46 lemonysnicket
July 28, 2015 at 9:18 AM
isn't this 16 episodes?
and, I cried actual tears during Won's "confession" because I felt so bad for him. looks like i'm the only one. AH WELL
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hollymool
July 29, 2015 at 3:18 AM
no, i'm with you, I shed so much tears when they were in the park and he made it clear that it was the end of their BFF relationship. And ha na tears started streaming and he bent over to hug her.! OOH that was a killer scene, I loved it. I re- watched 4 times and cried 4 times. Soo good.
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47 sigalltheway
July 28, 2015 at 10:58 AM
Between this and High Society, I don't know which is worse. hahahhahaa
for now, I'm just enjoying Oh My Ghostess and Mask while it lasts :)
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48 teaellipsis
July 28, 2015 at 10:59 AM
I must be one of the few who enjoyed this episode. The pace of the show has been consistent and for those that are wondering how SeoHoon and Hana's relationship was will now see it. It does begin to answer the question of the who and how of SeoHoon's character.
I do understand the frustration of the viewer when it comes to the elephant in the room, but they need backstory (even if it interrupts the flow of the two main characters)... it won't be too long before the two characters realize what the viewer has known all along (their feelings for each other and how that will put meaning into their special relationship).
I have not seen the original and don't plan onto until the end of the show so that I can view each as a separate show.
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hollymool
July 29, 2015 at 3:21 AM
good on you man! I love this drama too. And like you, i have no plans on watching the original until this one is over. I don't know why no body seems to like it. I find it interesting and realistic to life. Things like this can and do happen to real people.
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49 MendyLUV
July 28, 2015 at 4:14 PM
No people don't quit! i mean not yet at least. the time is for character build on hanas side not just to get over her feelings for seo hoo but to realise what won means to her deep down. despite i was like W!T!F! at the ending of the episode my anger panned down a little bit due to the time warp. this means we are possibly going to expect a new won sometime soon but i think we will have to put up with his noble idiocy that seems like its OCD for him for sometime . Oh anytime seo hoo speaks i feel like piking up every single word he has said since when he appeared in this drama and shoving it back in his mouth. and by the way is hana def or what or does she have amnesia that she could easly forget that his a total DOUCHEBAG. am going to follow up this drama to the end and it better NOT DISAPPOINT. thank you for the recap HeadsNo2. sorry i guess i was filled up to brim with a LOTof rant. tho am not empty YET i will save that for later
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50 fangirlingoppas
July 28, 2015 at 10:16 PM
and im getting tired of won. like really now.
im not surprised for hana to let seo hoo (and his 3 years silence) getting inside her heart again. she's someone who she actually what is actually happened now. and what happened now is, seo hoo with his all talk and sweetness(?) to see everyday. won, naaaahhh.. won is just 17 years old buddy that she cant figures his action (or words? yet? i dont know). she knows (about both of guys) but she doesnt. he (won) wants to (confess) but he doesnt to. and he just does what ever he wants (seo hoo).
im really getting frustated at this rate.
but hey, i really loved how hana throw the music sheet to seo hoo! hahahaha.
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